Corrie family sues Israel

[gelignite]

Goyim are cattle to you, if you practice your religion.

I have no particular religion, Walt.

You hate Everyone.

No. That's just you, projecting what you think that a Jew thinks. Or, rather, what you think you would be thinking if *you* were a Jew.

You're so filled with hatred that you believe your perceived mirrors in life feel as much hatred as you do.

That's not them, however. That's just you.


That's all you.

[WaltDisney]

I have no particular religion, Walt.

Then Your religion like most Zios, is Zio Supremecy, Money and Lies.
Goyim are a tool to that end.

No. That's just you, projecting what you think that a Jew thinks. Or, rather, what you think you would be thinking if *you* were a Jew.

Zio Jews are all the same.
 I know how you think, Ive crossed swords with your kind for 6 years now.
Leopards cant change their spots.

You're so filled with hatred that you believe your perceived mirrors in life feel as much hatred as you do.
That's not them, however. That's just you.

I only hate Sin, hypocrisy and Injustice.  You stand for all 3, so you must be rebuked.
I spit back in your face, you Serpent.

[LoneWolf]

I have no particular religion

How about faith? Absent religion? (which is anathema for me - not a choice amongst particulars.)

[WaltDisney]

I have no particular religion
How about faith? Absent religion? (which is anathema for me - not a choice amongst particulars.)

Most J*E*Ws (90%)  are Secular.
They worship Money.  There is No Hell for them.
They thank God every day, they werent born a female, Slave or Gentile

Their religion or Faith is themselves,  as Supremists.  Thats it.
Its not hard to understand. This or these people.

They must be rebuked and met force with force, head on.
They respect that. Nothing else

[OldTimes]

That's not a lie.

Same-ole, you:  constantly saying "I'm not lying, prove it!"

Basically, the two positions you harp on are:

1) Official position on 9/11 (which is simply impossible in so many ways) that Osama bin Laden & 'Al Qaeda' did 9/11, even though the media didn't have to "prove" it when it reported this judgment that was made less than 2 hours after the first plane hit, as if it was scripted for us.

2) A military engagement of the U.S.S. Liberty was accidental.  As if that is even plausible.  And yes, I've read the transcripts, clearly identifying the ship as American before engaging.  You want to prove otherwise?  Link the transcript!

Hence, the burden of proof should be on YOU and your positions.  How the hell are we supposed to have access to Israeli company records or govt archives?!  Only the joos have that, and there are quite a number of dual-citizen Israeli/American joos in our govt.

Which country are we supposed to believe they are loyal to?
If you lie and say America, I say "prove it".

You can't, and you won't.

[gelignite]

I have no particular religion

How about faith? Absent religion? (which is anathema for me - not a choice amongst particulars.)

Hmm. I have never really given much thought to this distinction. It's actually a good question.

I guess you could say that I do have a "faith" of sorts. But it doesn't necessarily conform to any one particular religion. As far as that goes, there are bits and pieces of every religion that I happen believe (or agree with, whathaveyou) . But I am not committed to any one set of religious principles.

It's assumed by many here that I'm a Jew. But I would submit that those who believe this are themselves consumed with their own hatred for Jewish people, and that it is such an underlying hatred which shapes their opinion on various issues. Like 9/11 or the USS Liberty. And so when I weigh in on these issues with an opinion opposite theirs, it is assumed in their mind that I, like them, do so with an underlying agenda. Because my opinion is opposite theirs, it is assumed that this underlying agenda is also opposite theirs, which would make it a pro-Jewish one. Which would make me a Jew.

But I would submit that I am not like Walt or RRBum in that regard, and that the only agenda I serve is the truth.


Always has been, always will be.

[gelignite]

Hence, the burden of proof should be on YOU and your positions.

Back up a minute. The position I was refuting was that there were "4000 Israelis" who failed to show up at the WTC on 9/11. This is what I was asking for proof of.

Now, as far as the story itself goes, I have demonstrsated its origins and that it had nothing at all to do with anyone who was supposedly employed in the Twin Towers - that it really had more to do with the lack of communication in and out of NYC than anything else. But there are those (like RRBum and Walt) who, in spite of everything, continue to insist that 4000 Israelis mysteriously failed to show up to work in the Towers that day.

All I'm asking for is some sort of supportive evidence for this... a list of names, whathaveyou. I don't think this is so unreasonable to ask, given the seriousness of implications. But somehow, neither Walt nor RRBum feel the need to to this. They want to go on suggseting that these 4000 Israelis were somehow forewarned, but they don't feel the need to back it up with any sort of proof.

What's that called? It's called propaganda, that's what.


And you're okay with this.  

[OldTimes]

All I'm asking for is some sort of supportive evidence for this... a list of names, whathaveyou. I don't think this is so unreasonable to ask, given the seriousness of implications.

The link to the Odigo story, which I remember from years ago.
The link to the Jerusalem Post story (not proof, I know, but "supportive evidence").
Amongst many other things...
The fact that it's obvious a lot of jews worked at the Pentagon and the WTC buildings (a travesty in and of itself),  but all we have are presumably falsified stories of about 70-something jewish-like-named victims' funerals from the joo-controled media.  Again, why would you ever presume the burden of proof be on us?

What's CLEAR to me is that 9/11 is a lie, perpetrated by Israelis and supported by joo-controlled media.
U.S.S. Liberty was a failed false-flag.
You are a shill.

[WaltDisney]

It's assumed by many here that I'm a Jew.

Assumed?  Theres no assumption that you are a Zio Jew.  
You Are.

But I would submit that those who believe this are themselves consumed with their own hatred for Jewish people, and that it is such an underlying hatred which shapes their opinion on various issues.

My disdain for Zio Jews and what you stand for, has more to do with Justice, injustice and humanity in general.
Or your absence of  humanity and compassion for others. Such as those living in the Gaza Concentration Camp.

Like 9/11 or the USS Liberty.

Both J*E*W false Flags, just as the Lavon Affair, Operation Susanah and Operation Nehemiah.

And so when I weigh in on these issues with an opinion opposite theirs, it is assumed in their mind that I, like them, do so with an underlying agenda.
Because my opinion is opposite theirs, it is assumed that this underlying agenda is also opposite theirs, which would make it a pro-Jewish one. Which would make me a Jew.

One is either an idiot or a Shill to promote such non truths, half truths, distorted truths and outright lies, such as the kind you throw out here.  Your agenda is insidious. Its to obsfuscate.
I dont mind, it keeps me sharp.
And others can see the neurosis from a Zio J*E*W.

But I would submit that I am not like Walt or RRBum in that regard, and that the only agenda I serve is the truth.

Truth are Lies to you, and lies are truth.
 'Talmudic Truths'.

[gelignite]

All I'm asking for is some sort of supportive evidence for this... a list of names, whathaveyou. I don't think this is so unreasonable to ask, given the seriousness of implications.

The link to the Odigo story, which I remember from years ago.

The Odigo messages make no reference whatever to the WTC.

The link to the Jerusalem Post story (not proof, I know, but "supportive evidence").

Not at all. The JP article (Jew press, by the way) makes no mention of any Israelis being employed at the WTC.

Amongst many other things...

Such as? What about an employee roster? Can we get a link to one before we go making claims with such far-reaching implications?

Should we not get one?

The fact that it's obvious a lot of jews worked at the Pentagon and the WTC buildings...

Once again, how do you know how many Jews were employed at either location?

....but all we have are presumably falsified stories of about 70-something jewish-like-named victims' funerals from the joo-controled media.

Well, these funerals either took place, or they didn't. Walt seems to think that, by virtue of their names alone, these people were Jewish. And if you apply that thinking to the total of WTC victims, then the list of 70-something bumps up +20, give or take. The JP article in which the story of the "4000 Israelis" originated is from the Jew-controlled media (it's a Jewish publication, after all) and you seem to believe it completely. On the other hand, you don't believe the reports of these Jewish funerals taking place. Why not? Why do you presume they are "falsified"? Why do you believe one article from the Jewish press, but discount another?

In any case, I'm still not sure how any of this proves that the Jews were forewarned. I still haven't seen any employee rosters for the Twin Towers, and I certainly haven't seen a list of 70-something who were mysteriously absent that day. Short of this, I and the rest of the reality-based community remain dubious.

We're the ones who decide whether or not the evidence merits further investigation into these matters.

Thus far, we remain unconvinced.

Again, why would you ever presume the burden of proof be on us?

Because you're the one who is making the claim that 4000 Israelis failed to show up to work at the WTC. If you're gonna make such claim, then I think you should back it up with something conclusive.


You don't think so?

[WaltDisney]

4000 Israelis" originated is from the Jew-controlled media (it's a Jewish publication, after all) and you seem to believe it completely.

J*E*W media jumped the gun
They played the sympathy card, and thought they could get away with it, they did however retract the statement about 4000.  But its too late.

”It’s very good.” ”Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy for Israel.”
-Israeli Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister
NY Times 9/12/2001

They were never there in the first place.

[RRBum]

J*E*W media jumped the gun
They played the sympathy card, and thought they could get away with it, they did however retract the statement about 4000.  But its too late.

”It’s very good.” ”Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy for Israel.”
-Israeli Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister
NY Times 9/12/2001

They were never there in the first place.

There was a lot of confusion in the controlled US zogmedia in the immediate  aftermath of 911 and in the confusion they even accidentally blurted out some uncensored truths, such as the four part FOX tv special on the Israeli connection to 911.  It was very quickly memory holed and their website read "this story no longer exists", and if it wasn't for the fact that we were able to save it on the free internet, the gelignites would be saying that it never existed.

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli 911 spy ring.



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[solmax]

There was a lot of confusion in the controlled US zogmedia in the immediate  aftermath of 911 and in the confusion they even accidentally blurted out some uncensored truths, such as the four part FOX tv special on the Israeli connection to 911.  It was very quickly memory holed and their website read "this story no longer exists", and if it wasn't for the fact that we were able to save it on the free internet, the gelignites would be saying that it never existed.

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli 911 spy ring.



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I think Fox News did the piece as damage control and it backfired on them. The intention was to get the Fox viewer to think "Oh, so the brave Israelis knew, but of course, we did not listen. We should be happy that our Israeli friends spy on us because the feds are clearly too incompetent to deal with Islamic terrorism." The problem is pretty much no one knew about the Israeli 9/11 connections until Fox did this piece. They did damage control when the situation was already under control.

[sushigirl]

There was a lot of confusion in the controlled US zogmedia in the immediate  aftermath of 911 and in the confusion they even accidentally blurted out some uncensored truths, such as the four part FOX tv special on the Israeli connection to 911.  It was very quickly memory holed and their website read "this story no longer exists", and if it wasn't for the fact that we were able to save it on the free internet, the gelignites would be saying that it never existed.

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli 911 spy ring.
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Check this out:  http://southeastasianews.org/israeli_connections_to_911.html

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South East Asia News.org is please to announce “The Smoking Gun Exclusive” proving once and for all Israel, their Intelligence Agency Mossad and dual American – Israeli citizens carried out 11th Sept 2001 Terrorist Attacks upon New York City, USA and also covered it up.

Background: -

Lets start off Sept 11th 2001 Terrorist Attacks in New York, USA was “A False Flag Terrorist Attack” upon United States of America, concocted by a handful of Israelis and dual passport Americans and carried out by the resources of the Mossad.

With Vice President Dick Cheney transferring all operational powers over the Police, FBI, CIA, NSA, Secret Service, FEMA, US Military over to himself for the day, and ran Anti - Terrorism Drills / Exercises with the US Military as cover for this “False Flag” Terrorist Attack to go ahead.

By Dick Cheney running these drills – exercises at the same time as the real suppose to be Terrorist Attack happening he tied up America’s resources from fighting back.

How Sept 11th 2001 Was Carried Out, and all the Main Players Behind the Attacks

http://how911wasdone.com/index1.html  &  http://southeastasianews.org/israeli_connections_to_911.html

The evidence doesn’t lie!

What Dick Cheney did was to commit “Treason & Murder” he helped stage a Terrorist Attack against his own country, killing his own people in cold blood.

Then to cover his crimes up he authorized the set up of an assassination squad to go about and kill any World Leader, Politician, Journalist, TV Producer, Independent Bloggers – Reporters, 911 Truth Activist in the world who tried to expose Bush – Cheney crimes and this “False Flag” Terrorist Attack.

Please read more here: - Seymour Hersch: 'Executive Assassination Ring' Reported Directly to Cheney Office "They’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving"

[LoneWolf]

But I would submit that those who believe this are themselves consumed with their own hatred for Jewish people, and that it is such an underlying hatred which shapes their opinion on various issues.

You've pretty well brought the entire 'Jewish Question' into focus with that comment.

And that begs the question - why? Most of us are engaged in 'discovery' and what's surfacing all seems to track back to a people who consider themselves above all other humanity and does whatever it takes to reign them in like sheep and make them pay for grazing privileges. The desire of all men to be free of collars and yokes, a desire that invariably pits them against those who presume to own it all and results in accusations and demands for remedy, is only natural and not necessarily motivated by bed wetting. To define that effort as motivated by hate is a child's gambit, rather primitive, meant to rationalize and avoid consequences.

Guess I'm digressing from the tread topic... but then again... maybe that is what Corrie would have us look into for I'm quite sure she never believed in the 'underlying psychosis' imbued in the psyche of the driver. She died not believing how wicked some can be.

Like those who done 9-11.

[RRBum]

Excellent link, Soosh!

One critical point that  they, and most other websites, seem to leave out is that the dancing Israeli Mossadnik camera crew had their camera equipment set up BEFORE the WTC attacks started that day.  Where is the film they took? How did the commentary go?  What did the israeli spy Chertoff do with it?

Go ahead, geligniteberg, shriek "lie!" - and I will prove you to be the lying backstabbing traitor that you know you are.

[FrontierJustice]

But I would submit that those who believe this are themselves consumed with their own hatred for Jewish people, and that it is such an underlying hatred which shapes their opinion on various issues.

You've pretty well brought the entire 'Jewish Question' into focus with that comment.

And that begs the question - why? Most of us are engaged in 'discovery' and what's surfacing all seems to track back to a people who consider themselves above all other humanity and does whatever it takes to reign them in like sheep and make them pay for grazing privileges. The desire of all men to be free of collars and yokes, a desire that invariably pits them against those who presume to own it all and results in accusations and demands for remedy, is only natural and not necessarily motivated by bed wetting. To define that effort as motivated by hate is a child's gambit, rather primitive, meant to rationalize and avoid consequences.

Guess I'm digressing from the tread topic... but then again... maybe that is what Corrie would have us look into for I'm quite sure she never believed in the 'underlying psychosis' imbued in the psyche of the driver. She died not believing how wicked some can be.

Like those who done 9-11.

Good post

[gelignite]

But I would submit that those who believe this are themselves consumed with their own hatred for Jewish people, and that it is such an underlying hatred which shapes their opinion on various issues.

You've pretty well brought the entire 'Jewish Question' into focus with that comment.

And that begs the question - why?

Does it make any difference? I don't think so.

Most of us are engaged in 'discovery' and what's surfacing all seems to track back to a people who consider themselves above all other humanity...

Most see exactly what their own virulent hatred dictates that they see. It's the same reason those like RRBum can read a JP article about Israelis who briefly lost contact with their relatives and thus conclude that all 4000 were employed in the WTC and missed work that day. Without a shred of proof to support it... no employee records... nothing. Their particular engagement with 'discovery' leads them, unservingly, to whatever conclusion makes the Jews look the worst - regardless of the actual facts at hand.

To define that effort as motivated by hate is a child's gambit, rather primitive, meant to rationalize and avoid consequences.

Bigotry is as bigotry does, Mr. LoneWolf. I'm only calling them as I see them.

[RRBum]

"It's the same reason those like RRBum can read a JP article about Israelis who briefly lost contact with their relatives and thus conclude that all 4000 were employed in the WTC and missed work that day. Without a shred of proof to support it... no employee records... nothing. nd bla bla bla"


Yo, zhid bs artist, the f'ing editor of the JP said he had the names of those 4,000 in his possession.  They were given to him by the IsraHelli foreign embassy.  he later confirmed this. And I said that they were "in and around the WTC", just like the JP and the Iz foreign embassy said - and Bush lied when he said that hundreds of Israhelli zhids were killed at the WTC on 911. In fact out of those 4 f'ing thousand only one poor shmuck who just happened to be visiting was killed, and you f'ing know it.  And Lucky Larry PULL IT! - 7 BILLION DOLLARS - Silverstein and his two sons weren't killed wither - because they didn't show up for work on 911 either.

Where is the video that the cheeringg Mossad agents took of the WTC attacks, zhid bs artist.  they had their camera equipment set up BEFORE the attacks started, and they said they were there to "document teh event".  How come YOU don't want to know the answer to that - AS IF WE DIDN'T KNOW!

How come YOU don't want to know wtf is going on vis-a-vis all teh opther IsraHelli connections to 911 - AS IF WE DIDN'T KNOW!!!

[FrontierJustice]

Most see exactly what their own virulent hatred dictates that they see.

What you see comes first, not the other way around

Choice is only a matter of choosing to accept the reality that you see, or not