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Title: 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: curiousity on July 20, 2012, 04:06:17 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/aurora-shooting-movie-theater-batman_n_1688547.html

A heavily armed man entered a movie theater in suburban Denver early Friday and opened fire, killing at least 12 people and injuring 50 others.

The incident, which took place about 12:30 a.m. at the Century 16 movie theater in Aurora, Colo., occurred during midnight screenings of the new Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises."

"This is a horrific event," Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said during a news conference.

The gunman, who was wearing a gas mask, reportedly set off a smoke or tear gas bomb then walked up to the front of the screen in one of the theaters and opened fire.

When the movie patrons realized the attack was real and not part of the movie, pandemonium erupted and they began to flee. The film continued to play on the screen as bloodied customers took refuge outside. According to witnesses on the scene, some of the bullets also went through the walls of an adjacent theater, injuring patrons.

“There was this one guy on all fours crawling. There was this girl spitting up blood. There were bullet holes in some people’s backs, in some people’s arms. There was one guy who was just stripped down to his boxers. It looked like he had been shot in the back or something,” Donovan Tate, who escaped from the packed theater with his girlfriend, told CBS4.

Soon after receiving a flood of 911 calls, hundreds of police officers, ambulance and emergency crews arrived on the scene.

The suspect was found near a car behind the theater and arrested. He was dressed in black, carrying a knife, rifle and a handgun, and wearing a bulletproof vest.

"He did not resist," police spokesman Frank Fania. "He did not put up a fight."

The shooter's identity has not been released but he is thought to be in his early 20s. A motive for the attack is unknown.

Police also searched the suspect's North Aurora home after he spoke of "possible explosives in his residence," Oates said. Authorities evacuated the building as a precautionary measure.

The police originally announced that 14 people had been killed in the attack, but revised the death toll around 7:45 a.m. ET, NBC News reported.

At this time, there is no evidence of additional shooters.

President Barack Obama, who is in Palm Beach, Fla., was notified of the shooting by Homeland Security Advisor John Brennan at 5:26 a.m. ET. He released the following statement:

"Michelle and I are shocked and saddened by the horrific and tragic shooting in Colorado. Federal and local law enforcement are still responding, and my Administration will do everything that we can to support the people of Aurora in this extraordinarily difficult time. We are committed to bringing whoever was responsible to justice, ensuring the safety of our people, and caring for those who have been wounded. As we do when confronted by moments of darkness and challenge, we must now come together as one American family. All of us must have the people of Aurora in our thoughts and prayers as they confront the loss of family, friends, and neighbors, and we must stand together with them in the challenging hours and days to come."
GOP challenger Mitt Romney said he and his wife Ann are "deeply saddened" by the shooting.

"We are praying for the families and loved ones of the victims during this time of deep shock and immense grief. We expect that the person responsible for this terrible crime will be quickly brought to justice."
The theater where the attack took place is just about 25 miles from Columbine High School, where two students shot and killed 13 people in 1999.

This story is developing...
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: curiousity on July 20, 2012, 04:21:16 AM
The jew media and fbi is really pushing this ritual mudrder of goyim kids at a theater, was perpetrated by islamic extremists, or homegrown white terrorists.

(http://jaredloughnerisjewish.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/jewishjared4.jpg?w=250&h=300)

(http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.422839.1333629182!/image/943296986.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_640/943296986.jpg)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on July 20, 2012, 04:30:00 AM
The jew media and fbi is really pushing this ritual mudrder of goyim kids at a theater, was perpetrated by islamic extremists, or homegrown white terrorists.


Gun grab?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: wag on July 20, 2012, 05:31:21 AM
Seems like a psyop.   
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 20, 2012, 06:24:21 AM
Seems like a psyop.

A psyop to take our eyes off the false flag in Bulgaria and Netanyahu's insta-claim of Iranian culpability?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: wag on July 20, 2012, 06:57:10 AM
A psyop to take our eyes off the false flag in Bulgaria and Netanyahu's insta-claim of Iranian culpability?

Dark Knight Rises, midnight screening, attack by man/men in black...  It may represent something more than we know at this point.  Or it could be what you said.  Least likely is lone gunman.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 20, 2012, 07:25:08 AM
Most of these mass murders lead to Jewish involvement. Whether it was Jewish shooter (Columbine), or some mental case prepped by drugs and Jewish pyschatrists (Virginia Tech)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: curiousity on July 20, 2012, 08:43:50 AM
Most of these mass murders lead to Jewish involvement. Whether it was Jewish shooter (Columbine), or some mental case prepped by drugs and Jewish pyschatrists (Virginia Tech)
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/373/shooterg.jpg)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Railroad Bum on July 20, 2012, 08:49:52 AM
A deacdent ultraviolent war-without-end torture-nation in its death throes.  Now the usual suspects will be using this to try to disarm the canon fodder.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: burford on July 20, 2012, 09:32:26 AM
A heavily armed man entered a movie theater in suburban Denver early Friday and opened fire, killing at least 12 people and injuring 50 others....

.....At this time, there is no evidence of additional shooters.

One report said he had two rifles and one handgun. Considering that some victims were shot more than once, to shoot 62 people while wearing a gasmask he probably fired a good 150 rounds, from 2 rifles and 1 handgun? So maybe he went through 2 30-round handgun mags, and what, 3 30-round rifle mags? - and he did this all while wearing a gas mask? Wow, impressive.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 20, 2012, 09:33:11 AM
The man suspected of carrying out the Colorado movie theater shooting, 24-year-old James Holmes from San Diego, was a graduate student  in the neuroscience program at the University of Colorado Medical School, a university spokesman told NBC News. He was in the process of withdrawing from school, the university confirmed.

The university website listed one of his courses as the Biological Basis of Psychiatric and Neurological Disorders. He was listed on the class website as making a presentation in the spring on MicroRNA biomarkers.




Jacob Gold Comments

The kid flips out but doesn't attack his professors, instead he shoots up a theater full of teenagers. A little 'Too Dramatic' for me. This is an age old jewish technique of making sure you don't feel safe anywhere (shopping, shows, churches, buses, etc)

Where is the motive for the attack on the theater
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jools on July 20, 2012, 09:34:35 AM
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/373/shooterg.jpg)

Smiling Jew.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 20, 2012, 09:37:40 AM
Smiling Jew.


First thing I thought when I saw the photo
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jools on July 20, 2012, 09:38:29 AM
Where is the motive for the attack on the theater

Bunch of Goyims are always a good target. Luckily no Jews were harmed.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 20, 2012, 09:52:39 AM
A psyop to take our eyes off the false flag in Bulgaria and Netanyahu's insta-claim of Iranian culpability?

Heh... well, THAT didn't take long.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 20, 2012, 10:04:33 AM
ABSTRACT

Shooting at the AMC Century Cinema: map, local police scanner. Bomb was may have been confirmed. It certainly sounded like it. Apparently a bomb may have blown up a part of a theater at the Dark Knight Rises premiere. Although the news isn't corroborating this right now, it definitely sounded like it on the scanner. Actually, it was probably the tear gas canisters.

Theater 9 (epicenter), Theater 8 (some hit), Theater 16 (people heard tear gas canisters)

ALL TIMES IN MDT, AM

1:27: "Bring as much crime scene tape as you can"

1:28: Aurora PD merging communications with Denver PD

1:35: Shooter wearing green camp pants

1:37: bomb squad is there, bringing in K-9 units. possible other bombs

1:40: 18 ambulances on scene

1:41: 9news story posted.

1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." In this context, it means fatalities.

1:43: Report of a bomb going off in a theater.

1:45: Patients being transported to Denver Health

1:47: Command staff briefing. This is huge.

1:49: Car, Tennesee plates, Hyundai, license [redacted]. third to west, in front of doors. Possible bomb. Main entrances of mall covered. Bomb squad moving in.

1:53: Canine units coordinating at SE entrance between JC Penney's and the food court. May be a bomb in there. Theory that bombs may be in front of theater.

1:55: New evidence for shooters. That's plural. Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at mall. Suspicion of bomb in there.

1:56: One shooter at large, one in custody. From Facebook: Someone set off some little party poppers in our theatre, next thing I know someone runs in and said there was a shooting. We huddled down into the seats because people were outside the exit. I was fortunate enough to get home safely with my sister but a few friends are still stuck there.

1:57: Due to bombs, police relocating all units to S of Dillard's. Open door was in Macy's. Suspicions of bombs there.

2:01: Submitted to Reddit. Second device possibly found, setting up a "unified command"

2:06: On /r/denver.

Comment from ThePenguinist: My best friend was at this. She said it happened about 30-40 minutes into the midnight premiere. Someone burst through the door and started shooting tear gas and then a gun. The only reason they got out was because they hit the ground and went for the door on their bellies. OMFG.

2:04: MSNBC tweets the story.

2:06: Secondary explosive device found in front of theater

2:08: Bringing K-9 unit to the command post.

2:14: Indian male found as witness. People (witnesses) moving to the food court entrance

2:18: Witnesses being transported to Gateway High School. There are 100 witnesses.

2:26: Story on MSNBC here

At least 20 people were hurt following a shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., police said Friday. The incident occurred at a cinema showing the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises," a police official told NBC News. One suspect was in custody, police said. It was unclear whether other suspects were involved. The injured were being transported to three local hospitals. A bomb squad was on site at the Century 16 movie theater, police added.

2:28: Theatre 9 going to Gateway HS. Everyone else is triaged. No vehicles allowed to leave. Witnesses being photographs.

2:30: Water jugs being moved.

2:36: Called the Denver Batman massacre by the Belfas Telegraph

2:42: "Possible older cop car-type seen fleeing the scene"

2:45: Which ambulances going where: 5 to Denver, 14 to University, 4 to Children's, 3 to Aurora South, 2 to Parker, 2 to Swedish

2:47: From 9News: 15 mins into movie, popping heard. People thought it was part of the movie. Saw material coming through the wall. Chaotic. Caused a scramble. Several injured people escorted into ambulances. Flow of ambulances slowed down, flow of police has not. SWAT teams there. Theater 9: Guy in body armor. "One of the largest scenes I've seen in my journalistic career."

2:52: Several police cars surrounding a vehicle. Possible explosive devices inside.

2:54: Tuned in to the 9News stream.

2:58: Newscast from Gateway HS. Witness is talking. People heard explosions and gunfire. No idea what happened. One shooter had a gas mask and was throwing tear gas.

2:59: Scanners report knife pulled on someone. WAY far away from theater. May be unrelated.

3:01: Someone reporting hand pain outside the theater.

3:02: Confirmed: At least 10 killed, 39 injured. Theaters 8 and 9 were sold out, and that's where the shooting took place. 9News confirms that one person is in custody.

3:02: Nothing found inside the mall so far. Dogs coming out.

3:06: Witness interview from earlier being replayed. Witness in Theater 9 was young woman. She described a man about 6' tall kicked through the door in a riot helmet and bulletproof vest. He was completely covered in all black, with goggles. After that, she and her boyfriend dropped to the floor. They got up, ran through the emergency exit. Shooter made his way up the stairs and started shooting people with the shotgun.

3:10: News is stalling until the police chief address.

3:15: Press conference: Gas released, gunman opened fire. Only know of one gunman. Police officers respond, find the gunman outside of the theater, carrying gas mask, rifle, handgun. One additional weapon found inside. 50 were hit. 14 confirmed dead.

3:15: Comment from elcoolerick: I live in Aurora, CO, Thought I'd share. "We were 20 min into the movie when the fire alarms started going off. We thought it was a prank. Then emergency intercom came on say there was a situation and we need to evacuate immediately. Next thing we know there was a police officer was outside the emergency exit with a shotgun yelling at us to run as far away from the theater as possible. We run out. There were people covered with blood every where with what looked like bullet wounds. Kids were crying . It was a terrible scene. Talked to some people, they are saying a man came into one of the theaters threw an explosive device and started shooting." -from a guy that was there.

More info from friends. "I was in the theatre, 9 people are dead shooting started inside the theatre and went to the back of the theatre. 3 people got show few rows infront of me and cops are up there with the SWAT with automatics and everything.It was scary. The first shots that were fired everyone stayed calm because they thought it was stupid kids with bottle caps. 2nd wave was fired the niggas ran out the theatre and thats when hell broke loose. Everyone was vulnerabe even as they left through the emergency exits" -KC Cannady

second part doesn't sound intelligent, but posted for historical reasons

3:30: AR-15 was the gun potentially used. One shooter or two? Many questions and very few answers other than a new death toll after the press conference. Keep your thoughts with the victims and their families.

3:42: More testimonies. Babies and small girls shot. News anchors getting emotional. Reports that the suspect had explosives in his apartment, which is also being searched.

3:48: Another /r/denver post from WaterSnake: here

3:49: More confirmation. 14 dead. 50 injured.

3:58: damian001 finds a video of the shooters aftermath. Warning, graphic contents.

4:01: We beat 9News on the video. The video is extremely graphic, and they aren't showing it with audio.

4:04: "No reason to believe there is a second gunman"

4:06: 10 died at the theater, 4 died at the hospital. 50 others had injuries.

4:13: 911 calls and police radio being played. They're talking about the tear gas.


http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/wv4q2/someone_came_into_our_theater_at_the_midnight/c5gq9c0 (http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/wv4q2/someone_came_into_our_theater_at_the_midnight/c5gq9c0)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 20, 2012, 10:06:05 AM
Heh... well, THAT didn't take long.

No it didn't did it? Of course we could presume yet another 'coincidence'...
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jools on July 20, 2012, 10:09:21 AM
Jacob Gold Comments

The kid flips out but doesn't attack his professors, instead he shoots up a theater full of teenagers. A little 'Too Dramatic' for me. This is an age old jewish technique of making sure you don't feel safe anywhere (shopping, shows, churches, buses, etc)

No, this is just another white huy shooting, accusing Jews is crazy. VNN Linder claims:

Quote
Christ, he's just some white guy. That's all there is to it. He's not a weirdo, he's just a thin-skinned bitch with conventional views left or right. At most he's on some psych meds.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1412179#post1412179
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: burford on July 20, 2012, 10:13:14 AM

1:55: New evidence for shooters. That's plural. Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at mall. Suspicion of bomb in there.

1:56: One shooter at large, one in custody.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 20, 2012, 10:17:00 AM
No it didn't did it? Of course we could presume yet another 'coincidence'...

Why would you presume anything else?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: burford on July 20, 2012, 10:21:10 AM
Looking forward to his psych/pharma report.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on July 20, 2012, 10:22:12 AM
One of those killed was Jessica Ghawi, a sportswriter who survived a June 2 mass shooting at a mall in Toronto in which two people were killed and seven others were injured. Ghawi blogged under the name Jessica Redfield.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12850048-mass-chaos-as-12-shot-dead-at-dark-knight-rises-screening-in-aurora-colorado?lite

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 20, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
The shooter was a medical student

(http://nt0.ggpht.com/news/tbn/YAfqoidtq2UGLM/11.jpg)




Phillip Markov (craiglist killer) was also a medical student

(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/news/090511/philip_markoff.jpg)



Holmes himself told them that he had booby-trapped his apartment before heading to the theater; as a result, police evacuated five nearby buildings.[19] Police stated that the explosives "look[ed] very sophisticated." [20] The apartment complex at 1690 Paris Street[21] is home exclusively to University of Colorado Medical Center students, patients, and staff members.[22]

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: burford on July 20, 2012, 10:36:10 AM
The medical profession has the highest drug abuse rate, and the highest suicide rate. Topping the lists are psychiatrists.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: wag on July 20, 2012, 10:54:39 AM
1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." In this context, it means fatalities.

They were showing the film in at least two rooms.  It seems the shooting takes place in the room where blacks were, vice where maybe the whites choose to see it.  They say the shooter is white.  There's a dog that's not barking.

Could this instead have been a common black shoot-out, and it's being covered up/spun because it took place in a movie cinema?  Where is the student killer's facebook page?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 20, 2012, 11:00:14 AM
Why would you presume anything else?

Why indeed... if I answer that then off we go into the realm of truth you absolutely refuse to credit. No thanks. Let's just see where all this leads.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 20, 2012, 11:01:12 AM
5:32: /u/dr0ne_: Take with an entire container of salt. 4chan thread Also: "Shut that area down, we don't want anyone to trigger these devices"

5:33: Suspect's house confirmed: 17th & Peoria

5:35: FBI: Suspect indicates he has explosives at his house.

5:36: /u/jason-samfield: Tissue samples being collected for evidence.

5:40: /u/hgmanifold: Bomb Squad released.

5:43: /u/SimonHova: Twitter link of first (unconfirmed) victim. Her last tweet was 20 minutes before the start of the movie. source

5:44: /u/nilicule: All available SWAT to report to 17th and Peoria for meeting will be soon releasing a team.

Also, from /u/nilicule: The cinema where the attack took place is just under 20 miles from Columbine High School, where two students shot dead 13 people in 1999.

5:46: Hospital releasing numbers very soon.

5:47: Beardstone: Report of guy with handgun leaving in red car.

5:49: Good news. Death count revised from 14/15 to 12.

5:53: /u/hgmanifold + /u/CCFTW: Bomb squad was released from the vehicle at the theater. Second unit on scene at the apt. complex.

5:55: Tweets posted. Trending as #theatershooting.

5:59: /u/shankee: Tweet found from @RamCNN. Also, /u/hgmanifold: Fire Tower 8 will be entering "Hot Zone".

6:00: /u/Beardstone: "Tower is going in"

6:03: /u/nilicule: Witness account of shooting here

6:04: /u/derphurr: Possible picture of the shooter car: here - warning, blood

6:05: /u/shankee: GrrlScientist tweets about the shooting. Interesting.

6:06: FBI: Shooter had an assault rifle, two handguns, and teargas. The car had Tennessee plates. Shooter born in December '87. Shooter has given police a name, but needs to be confirmed. Apprehended outside the theater.

6:08: Adams, Aurora, and Denver county bomb squads are investigating his apartment.

6:09: /u/CCFTW + /u/OrgasmicWalrus: 2 federal officials say suspect in Colorado movie theater mass shooting is James Holmes, born December 13, 1987. @NBCNews - also, 9News is playing same dispatch audio again

6:10: Confirmed and cross-referenced by /u/hgmanifold, /u/shankee, /u/nilicule, /u/purmou, /u/mkyweriga

6:12: Only contact with Holmes was a traffic ticket. /u/derphurr: His apartment is across the street from Peoria Elementary School.

6:13: /u/disorderlee: Video of the police arriving at the apartment.

6:14: Reddit, this is one time you probably should try to dig up some personal information about this guy.

6:16: Go, Reddit, go! List of hospitals moved to the top.

6:19: /u/shankee: 14 minutes of posted police radio here

6:20: FBI agent beginning to enter 3rd floor window of the apartment. "Items of interest" found (/r/nilicule).

6:24: /u/solie: 3-month old "doing fine"

6:27: /u/hgmanifold: Electricity is NOT to be shut off, just in case of triggers. Also, (/u/shankee) Denver Health upgrades the critical patient to "fair condition"

6:29: /u/nilicule: Gas was shut off to the suspect's building.

6:31: /u/nilicule: Time releases an image gallery from outside the theatre.

6:33: /u/dynabetes finds a possible White Pages entry for James E. Holmes

6:35: /u/nilicule finds some Reddit photos from a victim. WARNING! GRAPHIC!

6:36: /u/CrayonOfDoom posts confirmation of another victim that died.

6:42: /u/disorderlee: Links to suspect's possible online profiles.

6:45: /u/nilicule: Suspect's mother tells @ABCNews that the police have the right man.

6:50: /u/hgmanifold: chatter: "If this thing does go, be prepared to be defensive because of the 'stuff' inside the building"

6:51: /u/nilicule: "Dark Knight Rises" Paris premiere CANCELLED.

6:52: /u/solle: 3-month-old discharged!

6:58: /u/shankee: Warner Bros. statement: "We extend our sincere sympathies to the families and loved ones of the victims at this tragic time."

7:00: Ignore the ldmaster profiles, please: unless we find something out, please don't post personal info. Thanks.

7:03: /u/hgmanifold: PD is requesting HazMat.

7:10: /u/fatmanbrigade: Huffington post timeline of how the shooting news spread

7:15: Bomb squad leaving the suspect's apartment.

7:16: /u/nilicule: CNN: As precaution, NYPD will be providing coverage at theaters where 'The Dark Knight Rises' is playing. source; /u/blerg: Guy who was in theater 9: here, and girl here

7:17: /u/nilicule: Badly placed ad running over the story on the Denver Post

7:23: /u/fatmanbrigade posts local live streams for ABC; CBS; NBC; FOX, thanks!

7:30: /u/shankee: CNN: No explosives found at suspect's apartment source

7:33: /u/shankee: "Medical student, quiet and easygoing." twitter

7:35: Press conference by Aurora Medical Center. Stats on their way.

7:36: /u/nilicule: One of those killed in Aurora is a 6-year-old girl, father tells KDVR-TV

7:40: /u/nilicule + /u/shankee: President Obama has cut his Florida campaign swing short because of the shooting.

7:45: Received Reddit Gold from an anonymous redditor. Thanks! You all are awesome!

7:51: /u/nilicule: NYPD Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly on increased security at New York City movie theaters following Colorado mass shooting: news story

7:53: /u/jonate: 9News tries to source claims from 9gag and realizes it's a troll

8:00: /u/shankee: Federal officials: Aurora gunman propped open rear door of theater, put on gear, threw tear gas, and began shooting. source

8:05: /u/faraya: Witness is saying someone received a phone call, went to Exit door and held it open with his foot. After this the shooter came in. 711:00:00 mark on 9News

8:12: Colorado Governor Hickenlooper on Aurora mass shooting: here

8:15: Try not to pursue people named James Holmes on Facebook.

8:17: Barack Obama calls mayor of Aurora. He will speak on the incident from Florida. Washington is hugely involved.

8:20: /u/shankee: Buckets of ammo found in the apartment.

8:24: /u/nilicule: We do not believe at this point there was an apparent nexis [sic] to terrorism," White House spokesman Jay Carney says.

8:28: /u/nilicule: The U.S. Army, concerned over speculation that the shooter might have been a veteran — and eager to stifle the meme of the psychotic veteran before it spread — felt compelled to email that a database check of the suspect resulted in "no evidence suggest[ing] this individual served in the Army." via Wired

8:33: NBC interviews: here and here

8:36: /u/nilicule: Huffington Post profile of James Holmes
8:40: /u/nilicule: Media speculation about the shooting.

8:42: 3 more months of anonymous Reddit Gold! Thanks, guys!

8:44: /u/Deus_Viator: Blood banks are looking for (/u/srepetsk) O-, A-, and platelet donors.

8:45: /u/nilicule: Apartment of Aurora shooting suspect is booby-trapped with flammable or explosive material, Aurora police say

8:50: President Obama is addressing the nation. Audio of his comments already uploaded here (/u/tenuto). Transcript here (/u/apeudire)

8:53: /u/nilicule: 5 buildings evacuated around the site.

8:58: /u/nilicule: Explosives appear 'very sophisticated' and police could be at scene 'for hours or days,' Aurora police chief says

9:00: /u/Deus_Viator: Hazmat team has arrived at the suspect's residence.

9:03: Wasting a little time. More Reddit Gold. Thanks, guys.

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9:10: University of Colo. Med School says shooting suspect was student there but withdrew last month.

9:11: /u/stephwilson: Phone interview with a witness.

9:12: Bloomberg calls for tighter gun control policies.

9:13: CNN reporting suspect due in court later today

9:16: /u/coooolbeans: KDVR article about the shooting

9:18: /u/nilicule: #CUDenver confirms #theatershooter, James Holmes, getting PHD in neuroscience-- started in fall of 2011; withdrew last month.

9:22: Confirmation of Jessica Redfield Ghawi's death.

9:25: /u/alekst: There's a press conference in San Diego outside home of the parents of alleged shooter.

9:34: Pentagon spokesman: US service members apparently among casualties.

9:35: /u/shadow_of_a_memory: Obama and Romney stop political ads for today. source

9:37: Aurora, CO pledges to renew assault weapon ban

9:40: /u/ndgeek: Moments from the press conference at the Aurora Medical Center.

9:50: Suspect's family issues statement: "Our hearts go out to those who were involved in this tragedy.

9:55: /u/derphurr: Really low-res picture of the guy. Maybe.

9:59: /u/apeudire: Maryland police increase presence at theaters, same in Baltimore

10:03: Just screenshotted his picture.

10:05: Unconfirmed reports of C4 in the building?

10:06: Be back in a few minutes. Need to shower.

10:18: /u/Dspradau (thanks for filling the gap): Suspect to be in court on Monday. There are requests coming in to allow cameras in the courtroom.

10:24: /u/Hyyer: Photos from the police breaking into the shooter's apartment.

10:26: /u/Oblongata: Photo of Holmes, high-res here (/u/kazuma_k).

10:32: Back. I'm not going to keep you guys waiting any longer. Getting caught up right now...

10:34: Denver Medical Center: 6 patients treated for gunshot wounds and cuts. 4 in fair condition.

10:37: Two AF reserve, 1 Navy service member wounded, per NBC

10:42: EXTREMELY sophisticated bomb setup according to 9News. They're really covering this thing well.

10:46: /u/cjacobs18: James Holmes' presentation roster for medical school, under the topic "MicroRNA Biomarkers." Equally creepy: comic that's frightenly similar to the shooting.

10:47: Mitt Romney is giving his condolences.

10:48: /u/geekgirl96: Twitter of Alex Sullivan, who is currently missing.

10:50: Replay of Obama video: "There are other days for politics. This is a day for prayer and reflection."

10:56: /u/imgurvisitor + /u/dencorokr: Alex Sullivan is at Swedish in critical condition.

11:06: /u/RogueA: According to the 9News broadcast, the booby trap is a bunch of "liter sized pop bottles, believed to be filled with explosive or flammable materials, with wires running between all of them."

11:07: /u/Yeevee: Massive coincidence.

11:08: /u/shankee: A yearbook picture.

11:28: Sorry for the gap. Been busy. 4 members of US military, 2 Air Force reservists, 2 Navy service members, wounded, hospitalized in Colorado shootings

11:30: /u/Kaladin_Stormblessed: 911 transcripts uploaded by CNN.

11:36: /u/apeudire: "He seemed like a normal kid" - neighbor - source

11:38: /u/mvpmets00: Aurora gunman propped open rear door of theater, put on gear, threw tear gas and began shooting.

11:42: /u/c0reyann: Why didn't I post this before? "Alex Sullivan's fate is still unknown, his friend was misinformed that he was at Swedish."
11:52 CSU football recruit Zack Golditch was among those wounded in the #theatershooting

11:52 Current CSURams Football player David Anderson (Junior, WR) escaped the Aurora #theatreshooting without injury .

11:56 Press conference: AR-15 assault rifle, Remington shotgun, .40 Glock handgun, other 40cal Glock handgun found in the car. 71 people shot, 12 deceased. Holmes set off 2 devices, released smoke or some sort of irritant. Officials are confident he acted alone. Suspect was wearing ballistic helmet, ballistic leggings, groin protecter, tactical gloves, gasmask.

12:00 Suspect lives at 1690 Paris Street, which is currently an active and difficult scene due to presence of boobytraps.

12:02 DA Carol Chambers interviewed a statement.

12:03 Anschutz campus Research Bldgs 1 & 2 evacuated. #theatershooting suspect worked there

12:04 Press conference: Police are unwilling to speculate about a motive

12:05 Press conference: between first call to 911 and arrest was a minute to minute and a half

12:06 Some good news: ThinkGeek has donated $1000 to Red Cross Denver

12:09 Press conference: Police will not release his booking photo today

12:10 Colorado local police say, once again, they are not looking for anyone else in connection with attack in cinema in which 12 people died

12:11 Aurora Police Chief doesn't know if Holmes had legal possession of weapons

12:14 The District Attorney's office has a page for victim services

12:15 The Washington Post has a detailed map of the area

12:17 Police chief: Booby traps at #theatershooting suspect home "something I've never seen."

12:19 Obama orders flags to be flown at half-staff until sunset on Wednesday.

12:19 Police chief: "Bodies are still in movie theater."

12:20 National Association of Theatre Owners says it is 'reviewing security procedures' in movie theaters

12:23 Colorado shooting suspect to police: I am the Joker

12:26 News9 analyst Scott Robertson says suspect will be charged with 10 counts of first degree murder, 61 counts of attempted first degree murder

12:33 AP law enforcement source: Colorado shooting suspect bought ticket to movie , went into theater as part of crowd

12:36 /u/graycrawford posts a personal account from a friend

12:41 Twitter account for the National Rifle Association had this to say - NRA has since apologized.

12:45 The Huffington Posts lists how you can help victims, families of the tragedy

12:47 Apple Trailers has deleted the page for Gangster Squad. Trailer featured movie theater mass shooting. It also appears YouTube has blocked U.S. users from viewing Gangster Squad trailers. iTunes has also removed the trailer for Gangster Squad

12:57 Warner Brothers is considering suspending Batman airings for the rest of the weekend

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 20, 2012, 11:15:05 AM
Footage aftermath

! Graphic

http://www.youtube.com/v/T7sIiqq66rk

(http://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/colorado-shooting-04.jpg)

(http://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/colorado-shooting-08.jpg)
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Post by: Vidarr on July 20, 2012, 11:19:53 AM
The suspect was found hiding behind his car , Judging by the bloodspatters on the pavement somebody shot back and hit him. Which would explain the  reports of a second shooter who was seated.
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Post by: bpocatch on July 20, 2012, 11:40:45 AM
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1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." In this context, it means fatalities.

Mr Wag

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2li8oc4.jpg) May I call you Mister Wag?  Have you ever been to movie theatre full of Afreekans hooting and hollaring at the screen like a revival meeting?  Don't judge this young fellow to harshly if you have not.
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Post by: wag on July 20, 2012, 12:15:39 PM
Have you ever been to movie theatre full of Afreekans hooting and hollaring at the screen like a revival meeting?  Don't judge this young fellow to harshly if you have not.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/james-holmes-alleged-colorado-batman-shooter-delusional-psychologists/story?id=16821836#.UAm4E0iYOk1 (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/james-holmes-alleged-colorado-batman-shooter-delusional-psychologists/story?id=16821836#.UAm4E0iYOk1)

Psychologists said shooters who go on rampages, targeting random people with no apparent motive, are usually not suffering from a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia. Rather, Holmes was likely living in a world of an alternate reality, suffering from delusions of threats and making plans to make right things that he perceived were wrong.

Amunategui said it's likely that Holmes had been obsessively thinking about his plan until some unknown event spurred him to action.

"There's generally an event or a situation where the individual feels he has to intervene or somehow drastic action is called for. And then you see the horrible event that you saw last night," he said.

Hobfell said the Internet can be an important tool in fueling a person's assurance that their alternate reality is the correct one.

"You can become part of a cult or way of thinking through a chat room and develop a whole mindset with a group of people online. They spur each other on, they develop a common language," he said. "The Internet and games, that becomes the world they are living in."


And people here think poorly of jew psychologists.   :P
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 20, 2012, 12:54:24 PM

Psychologists said shooters who go on rampages, targeting random people with no apparent motive, are usually not suffering from a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia. Rather, Holmes was likely living in a world of an alternate reality, suffering from delusions of threats and making plans to make right things that he perceived were wrong.


According to wikipedia " psychosis is a term generally given to noticeable deficits in normal behavior (known as deficit or negative signs) or more commonly to the florid experiences of hallucinations or delusional beliefs."


So he was not psychotic, Just Psychotic.....  brilliant

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And people here think poorly of jew psychologists.   :P
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Post by: Vidarr on July 20, 2012, 12:59:44 PM
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Hobfell said the Internet can be an important tool in fueling a person's assurance that their alternate reality is the correct one.

"You can become part of a cult or way of thinking through a chat room and develop a whole mindset with a group of people online. They spur each other on, they develop a common language," he said. "The Internet and games, that becomes the world they are living in."


Alternative views on world affairs = alternate reality = Psychotic. everybody on this board has come another step closer to being put in mental ward.
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Post by: bpocatch on July 20, 2012, 01:47:31 PM
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Amunategui said it's likely that Holmes had been obsessively thinking about his plan until some unknown event spurred him to action.

Holmes willh either disappear in a prison laundry truck or he was an expendable assassin.

One thing for sure he was a horrible shot.  He has a an AR-15 and people in a line and only kills twelve?

One of the dead was surprised and horrified when the person next to them pulled out pistol with their hand in plastic bag and put two in their head and two in their heart.

What are Navy guys doing in Colorado?  Who is the sports chick that dodged the mass shooting in Canada?

This blood work is messy and risky so there must be multiple incentives.  Like 911 - oil gold revenge driven sheep museum booty  restoration contracts etc.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: OldTimes on July 20, 2012, 03:02:22 PM
Shooter called himself "the Joker".

I think it's just your typical psy-op gun-grab.  The guy didn't resist arrest at all, he knows he's been cleared.  This way some jew gets to blow off a little steam and have an 'experience'.

They tip their hat and lend a little publicity to the new batman movie at the same time.

All these psy-ops kill at least two birds with one stone, and so what if a few goyim die.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: OldTimes on July 20, 2012, 03:07:38 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/james-holmes-alleged-colorado-batman-shooter-delusional-psychologists/story?id=16821836#.UAm4E0iYOk1 (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/james-holmes-alleged-colorado-batman-shooter-delusional-psychologists/story?id=16821836#.UAm4E0iYOk1)

Psychologists said shooters who go on rampages, targeting random people with no apparent motive, are usually not suffering from a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia. Rather, Holmes was likely living in a world of an alternate reality, suffering from delusions of threats and making plans to make right things that he perceived were wrong.

Amunategui said it's likely that Holmes had been obsessively thinking about his plan until some unknown event spurred him to action.

"There's generally an event or a situation where the individual feels he has to intervene or somehow drastic action is called for. And then you see the horrible event that you saw last night," he said.

Hobfell said the Internet can be an important tool in fueling a person's assurance that their alternate reality is the correct one.

"You can become part of a cult or way of thinking through a chat room and develop a whole mindset with a group of people online. They spur each other on, they develop a common language," he said. "The Internet and games, that becomes the world they are living in."


This is just the jews in the media room spinning the story for mass-suspicion against people waking up to the truth via the internet (only form of media they still do not 100% control).  Now everyone else can be assured we are all mental cases, just like this movie-theater killer.  (ridiculous if you think about it - to point out "using the internet" as what's in common)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 20, 2012, 03:56:16 PM
What's the motive?


(http://i46.tinypic.com/2li8oc4.jpg)


Why a movie theater? Will he get kosher food in Butner?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 20, 2012, 04:07:51 PM
Aurora is 1/2 hour from COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL.
Shooter was a neuroscience major - not med school student. He was working on a Ph.D.
He has painted his hair red and said he was the joker - 'insanity' may be a front for a hidden agenda
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 20, 2012, 04:09:40 PM
A psyop to take our eyes off the false flag in Bulgaria and Netanyahu's insta-claim of Iranian culpability?
the numbers are so similar
Bulgaria - 12 dead 30 wounded
Aurora - 14 dead 50 wounded
strange coincidence

Aurora is 20 miles from Columbine High school
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 20, 2012, 04:11:31 PM
One report said he had two rifles and one handgun. Considering that some victims were shot more than once, to shoot 62 people while wearing a gasmask he probably fired a good 150 rounds, from 2 rifles and 1 handgun? So maybe he went through 2 30-round handgun mags, and what, 3 30-round rifle mags? - and he did this all while wearing a gas mask? Wow, impressive.

= gun control
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 20, 2012, 04:20:13 PM
The suspect was found hiding behind his car , Judging by the bloodspatters on the pavement somebody shot back and hit him. Which would explain the  reports of a second shooter who was seated.
was he also supposed to have 'committed suicide'?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 20, 2012, 05:05:58 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/20/article-2176377-1426433E000005DC-40_634x426.jpg)
the 'suicide' gone wrong
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 20, 2012, 05:25:13 PM
was he also supposed to have 'committed suicide'?
They usually do, But with an AR15 i don't see how you can mess up your suicide.
The bloodsplatters  appear to be in line with his footsteps from one leg, He might just as well have shot himself in the foot by accident.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on July 20, 2012, 05:57:17 PM
He has painted his hair red and said he was the joker - 'insanity' may be a front for a hidden agenda

Okay yeah it was a bat man movie.  Heath Ledger or whatever the joker offed him self with drugs like Mike Jackson.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on July 20, 2012, 05:58:37 PM
What's the motive?


(http://i46.tinypic.com/2li8oc4.jpg)


Why a movie theater?

The Batman franchise is a little tired and needed a boost.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: wag on July 20, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
Shooter called himself "the Joker".

Let's try to remember that media makes up stuff.  Holmes apparently had no facebook page.   
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Post by: wag on July 20, 2012, 06:27:33 PM
Why a movie theater? Will he get kosher food in Butner?[/center]

Jews know that at some point there will be a nigger gun fight in a cinema in the suburbs.  Perhaps this was it.  Perhaps damage control was prepared.
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Post by: jools on July 20, 2012, 10:15:32 PM
He's circumcised just like Jacob Gold!

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A man claiming to be James Holmes created a profile on a popular sex website just days before "The Dark Knight Rises" massacre ... in which he described his penis as "short/average" ... and law enforcement sources tell TMZ investigators are now looking at the site to determine its authenticity.

"Holmes" created the profile on AdultFriendFinder.com July 5 -- and included a picture of himself with reddish, orange hair ... just as officials in Aurora, CO said he looked when he was apprehended Friday morning.

"Holmes" -- who used the screen name classicjimbo -- included a cryptic message on the top of the profile which reads, "Will you visit me in prison?"

In his profile, "Holmes" says he's 6'0" and single ... with an athletic body.   Note -- the FBI says Holmes is 6'3".

"Holmes" describes himself as a "light/social drinker" ... but in the section where he's asked if he smokes or does drugs, he answered, "I'd prefer not to say."

"Holmes" also noted that he's circumcised.

"Holmes" described himself as a straight man ... and said he was seeking a sexual relationship with "Women, Couples (man and woman), Groups or Couples (2 women)."

"Holmes" also notes that he's interested in "Erotic Chat or Email, Discreet Relationship, 1-on-1 sex or Group sex (3 or more!)"

In the section marked, "Introduction" ... "Holmes" said, "Looking for a fling or casual sex gal. Am a nice guy. Well, as nice enough of a guy who does these sort of shenanigans."

According to the website, "Holmes" last logged in to the site sometime in the past 3 days.

"Holmes" posted 2 different photos of himself -- including one shot in which he is posed in front of an image of a woman while wearing headphones.

If it turns out that it is indeed Holmes' profile, the information could be relevant in the investigation.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/20/0720-james-holmes-adult-friend-finder-4.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-sex-website-penis-cops/?adid=hero5
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Railroad Bum on July 21, 2012, 07:10:26 AM
No, this is just another white huy shooting, accusing Jews is crazy. VNN Linder claims:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1412179#post1412179


On this forum everybody is Jewish.

I've got no use for Linder, but he sounds right here.  5 will get you 10 the killer was on psychotropic drugs like Ritalin.  All of the school shooters are.

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Post by: wag on July 21, 2012, 07:19:55 AM
Let's not forget that the killer was wearing full gear and a mask and could not be identified during the act.  Do they have a killer in custody or a patsy?  Media is a jew deception operation, let's not forget that too.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 21, 2012, 07:23:01 AM
It seems that the killer entered through an emergency exit though it is claimed he bought a ticket... as can be seen in the pic below.

No handle on the door. A regular Houdini.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 21, 2012, 09:10:38 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/20/article-2176377-1426433E000005DC-40_634x426.jpg)
the 'suicide' gone wrong

who was he running from? how did he get shot? was he supposed to die in the melee. they always 'committ suicide' in the end
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 21, 2012, 09:16:07 AM
Mohammed Atta and the '9/11' crew used porno websites to communicate with each other.
They may be speaking to each other in code.
I don't believe this guy worked alone - he was able to rig his apt. with explosives, chemicals and trip wires everywhere. Who taught him how to do this?
Gotta wonder about the motive
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: wag on July 21, 2012, 09:45:24 AM
1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." In this context, it means fatalities.

They were showing the film in at least two rooms.  It seems the shooting takes place in the room where blacks were, vice where maybe the whites choose to see it.  They say the shooter is white.  There's a dog that's not barking.

Could this instead have been a common black shoot-out, and it's being covered up/spun because it took place in a movie cinema?  Where is the student killer's facebook page?

Now it seems the victims are white.  Several appear to be jews. 
http://hinterlandgazette.com/2012/07/names-victims-emerge-james.html

The 6 year old victim, Veronica Moser (jewish?), shares the name of a  porn star (warning graphic). (https://www.google.com/search?q=Veronica+Moser&hl=en&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=Twe&channel=fs&prmd=imvnsuol&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=WeoKUKvrLoim6AGM3-SvCg&ved=0CFYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1215&bih=653)   (Shot by Holmes?)  I'm starting not to buy this.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 21, 2012, 09:53:09 AM
It seems that the killer entered through an emergency exit though it is claimed he bought a ticket... as can be seen in the pic below.

No handle on the door. A regular Houdini.
Not really so difficult, park your car with your gear next to the emergency door, buy a ticket and go in looking ordinary, go to the emergency door open it from the inside, get your gear out of the car, go back in.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 21, 2012, 09:59:52 AM
What's the motive?


(http://i46.tinypic.com/2li8oc4.jpg)


Why a movie theater? Will he get kosher food in Butner?

when civilians are targeted, They are more likely to believe the majority of the people want to give up their rights  to get more security from government.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 21, 2012, 10:00:09 AM
Not really so difficult, park your car with your gear next to the emergency door, buy a ticket and go in looking ordinary, go to the emergency door open it from the inside, get your gear out of the car, go back in.

Normally fire exit doors have an alarm.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 21, 2012, 10:13:24 AM
Normally fire exit doors have an alarm.
He doesnt'really look like he would have cared much for a few more seconds of alarm.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 21, 2012, 10:15:38 AM
Normally fire exit doors have an alarm.

Fire in a packed theater is a big deal  ..... a door is opened and there is an alarm sent to the front office.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 21, 2012, 10:19:19 AM

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/20/0720-james-holmes-adult-friend-finder-4.jpg)


If you post pictures of yourself with orange hair and want to have sex with couples. your not straight..

He will have plenty of group sex the next 25 years.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on July 21, 2012, 10:45:26 AM
It seems that the killer entered through an emergency exit though it is claimed he bought a ticket... as can be seen in the pic below.

No handle on the door. A regular Houdini.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2li8oc4.jpg) Mr. Lone Wolf
Are you saying an helper opened the door for him?

Gun Deaths: A Familiar American Experience

One of the most depressing aspects of the shooting rampage at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., is just how familiar it all is to the American experience.

We've seen it so many times, the body counts, the candlelight vigils, the search for motive, the gun control debate. The numbers may be different this time - 12 dead, four guns, 6,000 rounds of ammunition purchased online - but in an effort to put this heartbreak into a national context, here are some other numbers to consider.
In America, over one dozen guns are legally sold every minute of every day.

http://news.yahoo.com/gun-deaths-familiar-american-experience-143015822--abc-news-topstories.html
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 21, 2012, 10:47:19 AM

On this forum everybody is Jewish.

I've got no use for Linder, but he sounds right here.  5 will get you 10 the killer was on psychotropic drugs like Ritalin.  All of the school shooters are.


Lindner is a Jew's Jew ...VNN is a honey-pot
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 21, 2012, 10:50:27 AM
Who benefits?

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2li8oc4.jpg)


All these massacres help the anti gun groups
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 21, 2012, 11:16:06 AM
Are you saying an helper opened the door for him?

I am waiting for more facts (if any) before drawing a conclusion. Right now I see a convenient incident which has buried the Bulgarian bombing, dead Indian fisherman, Spanish and Egyptian blowback, Bohemian Grove, Barak's threats and Congress appropriating more of our dollars.

The only lone wolf I know of is me, and not by choice, but for speaking truth.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 21, 2012, 02:51:17 PM
It seems that the killer entered through an emergency exit though it is claimed he bought a ticket... as can be seen in the pic below.

No handle on the door. A regular Houdini.

According to eyewitnesses, he had propped it open. It was an "exit" door. And they're not necessarily "alarmed" Anyone who frequents movie theaters has prolly used one before to avoid the crush in the lobby.

No great mystery here. A lone nut woke up and decided he wanted to kill a bunch of people that day. And so he did, and the news of his deed knocked everything else off the front page.

Happens sometimes.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 21, 2012, 03:38:06 PM
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The 6 year old victim, Veronica Moser (jewish?), shares the name of a porn star (warning graphic).   (Shot by Holmes?)  I'm starting not to buy this.
odd relationship between porn and this incident
Holmes says he's circumcised - why bring it up unless it has religious significance
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Railroad Bum on July 21, 2012, 03:46:29 PM

Lindner is a Jew's Jew ...VNN is a honey-pot


Maybe you guys are right. Maybe everyone is a Jew except me.  It's like that fantasy I used to have when I was a little kid - what if everybody else was an alien and only when they saw me coming did they alter their appearance to look human, and maybe if I raced around the corner real fast I'd catch them before they changed - looking like the alien reptiles they were.

I'm not sure about me either.  When I look in the mirror and see those beady shifty little eyes looking back at me from under my yarmulke I get nervous, not to mention my mad desire to sprinkle my conversation with Yiddish words (I think Yiddish is a cute language), plus I like kasha knishes, tho I haven't had one in a very long time.

So how's duh femily?

Click here for Twilight Zone intro (and Rod Sterling was one too!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y



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Post by: wag on July 21, 2012, 05:22:18 PM
Normally fire exit doors have an alarm.

Probably also monitored by police and fire depts.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: wag on July 21, 2012, 05:23:37 PM
Fire in a packed theater is a big deal  ..... a door is opened and there is an alarm sent to the front office.

The fire bell would be yet another dog not barking.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: wag on July 21, 2012, 05:26:27 PM
If you post pictures of yourself with orange hair and want to have sex with couples. your not straight..

He will have plenty of group sex the next 25 years.

Where is his facebook page?  No ex girlfriends?  What is on his hard-drive?

Bogus.
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 21, 2012, 05:37:47 PM
MSM stress on the LONE gunman
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: WaltDisney on July 21, 2012, 06:19:38 PM
Where is his facebook page?  No ex girlfriends?  What is on his hard-drive?

Bogus.



By Bill Dedman
Investigative Reporter, NBC News

James Eagan Holmes, the suspect in the mass killing in Aurora, Colo., was a counselor in the summer of 2008 at a residential camp for underprivileged children near Glendale, Calif.

Jewish Big Brothers Big Sisters of Los Angeles confirmed that Holmes was a cabin counselor, responsible for 10 children at its Camp Max Straus for children ages 7 to 14 from Los Angeles.
Holmes was then a 20-year-old student at the University of California, Riverside, and neighbors have said he was active in the Presbyterian church that the family attended. The camp is nonsectarian.
 
A statement from the group said, "His role was to insure that these children had a wonderful camp experience by helping them learn confidence, self esteem and how to work in small teams to effect positive outcomes. These skills are learned through activities such as archery, horseback riding, swimming, art, sports and high ropes course."
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Post by: wag on July 21, 2012, 07:27:26 PM

Jewish Big Brothers Big Sisters of Los Angeles confirmed that Holmes was a cabin counselor, responsible for 10 children at its Camp Max Straus for children ages 7 to 14 from Los Angeles.

Where is the facebook page?  Where are the camp photos?  Nothing mentioned in any personal weblogs?

Bogus.

Jews can a lot more easily add deceptive content than eliminate what should exist.  Look for the dog that doesn't bark.
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Post by: curiousity on July 21, 2012, 07:31:30 PM


By Bill Dedman
Investigative Reporter, NBC News

James Eagan Holmes, the suspect in the mass killing in Aurora, Colo., was a counselor in the summer of 2008 at a residential camp for underprivileged children near Glendale, Calif.

Jewish Big Brothers Big Sisters of Los Angeles confirmed that Holmes was a cabin counselor, responsible for 10 children at its Camp Max Straus for children ages 7 to 14 from Los Angeles.
Holmes was then a 20-year-old student at the University of California, Riverside, and neighbors have said he was active in the Presbyterian church that the family attended. The camp is nonsectarian.
 
A statement from the group said, "His role was to insure that these children had a wonderful camp experience by helping them learn confidence, self esteem and how to work in small teams to effect positive outcomes. These skills are learned through activities such as archery, horseback riding, swimming, art, sports and high ropes course."

Thanks for the crucial supplement data required by disinfo ops on the board, Walt.
Read this with my eye closed, like the Norway shooter semetic neanderthal.
Usually, cross-referencing suspect photos to Der Sturmer cartoons is usually, 100% accurate.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jools on July 21, 2012, 10:51:10 PM


By Bill Dedman
Investigative Reporter, NBC News

James Eagan Holmes, the suspect in the mass killing in Aurora, Colo., was a counselor in the summer of 2008 at a residential camp for underprivileged children near Glendale, Calif.

Jewish Big Brothers Big Sisters of Los Angeles confirmed that Holmes was a cabin counselor, responsible for 10 children at its Camp Max Straus for children ages 7 to 14 from Los Angeles.
Holmes was then a 20-year-old student at the University of California, Riverside, and neighbors have said he was active in the Presbyterian church that the family attended. The camp is nonsectarian.
 
A statement from the group said, "His role was to insure that these children had a wonderful camp experience by helping them learn confidence, self esteem and how to work in small teams to effect positive outcomes. These skills are learned through activities such as archery, horseback riding, swimming, art, sports and high ropes course."

No we have 100% proof that mass murderer James Eagan Holmes is a JEW!!!
They don't allow Goyims on such a camps.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jools on July 21, 2012, 11:02:54 PM


By Bill Dedman
Investigative Reporter, NBC News

James Eagan Holmes, the suspect in the mass killing in Aurora, Colo., was a counselor in the summer of 2008 at a residential camp for underprivileged children near Glendale, Calif.

Jewish Big Brothers Big Sisters of Los Angeles confirmed that Holmes was a cabin counselor, responsible for 10 children at its Camp Max Straus for children ages 7 to 14 from Los Angeles.
Holmes was then a 20-year-old student at the University of California, Riverside, and neighbors have said he was active in the Presbyterian church that the family attended. The camp is nonsectarian.
 
A statement from the group said, "His role was to insure that these children had a wonderful camp experience by helping them learn confidence, self esteem and how to work in small teams to effect positive outcomes. These skills are learned through activities such as archery, horseback riding, swimming, art, sports and high ropes course."

Camp Max Straus seems very odd camp. Poor black kids and other poor kids are supervised by 100% Jewish big brothers and sisters? How many kids die at these kamps in "accidents"? Will Pee-wee Herman do his act there?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Ajax on July 22, 2012, 02:33:39 AM
Who benefits?

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2li8oc4.jpg)


All these massacres help the anti gun groups
Right. A jew goes on a murderous rampage and their answer is always "gun control".
Btw, how many jews were killed in the attack?


Mass shooting prompts calls from Capitol Hill and beyond for tighter gun laws

Published July 21, 2012

FoxNews.com

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    File: Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., speaks during a news conference at Newark Liberty International Airport, in Newark, N.J. (AP)

The call for federal lawmakers to tighten gun laws has intensified following the mass shooting  in Colorado, with New Jersey Democratic Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg urging Congress on Saturday to swiftly address a ban on certain weapons.

“Let's stop wasting time and start saving lives,” Lautenberg, D-N.J. said on his Twitter account. “Congress must prioritize a ban on high-capacity gun magazines.”

At least one other lawmaker has already called on President Obama and GOP challenger Mitt Romney to address the issue.

"Soothing words are nice," New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said in a radio interview, "but maybe it's time that the two people who want to be president of the United States stand up and tell us what they are going to do about it, because this is obviously a problem across the country."

Lautenberg was also among the first on Capitol Hill to comment on the shooting massacre early Friday at a suburban Colorado movie theatre that left 12 people dead and dozens wounded. The alleged shooter, James Holmes, was armed with an AR-15 assault rifle and three other weapons. 

“The shooting in Aurora is a horrific act of violence, and our thoughts go out to the innocent victims and their families,” he said Friday. “Our hearts are filled with sadness for the 12 people killed and the dozens wounded in this senseless act. We have to face the reality that these types of tragedies will continue to occur unless we do something about our nation’s lax gun laws.”

A Lautenberg aide has told the Huffington Post, “If reports are correct and a high-capacity gun magazine was used to commit these awful murders, Senator Lautenberg will absolutely renew his effort to limit the availability of this dangerous firearm attachment."

Last year, Lautenberg introduced legislation to ban high-capacity ammunition magazines. He also has authored other gun-related bills including one that would close so-called loopholes on background checks for buyers at gun shows.

Once, every highly publicized outbreak of gun violence produced strong calls from Democrats and a few Republicans for tougher controls on firearms.

Now those pleas are muted, a political paradox that's grown more pronounced in an era scarred by Columbine, Virginia Tech, the wounding of a congresswoman and now the shooting in a suburban movie theater where carnage is expected on-screen only.

"We don't want sympathy. We want action," Dan Gross, president of the Brady campaign said Friday as Obama and Romney mourned the dead.

Ed Rendell, the former Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, was more emphatic than many in the early hours after the shooting. "Everyone is scared of the NRA," he said on MSNBC. "Number one, there are some things worth losing for in politics and to be able to prevent carnage like this is worth losing for."

Yet it's been more than a decade since gun control advocates had a realistic hope of getting the type of legislation they seek, despite predictions that each shocking outburst of violence would lead to action.

In 1994, Congress approved a 10-year ban on 19 types of military-style assault weapons. Some Democrats quickly came to believe the legislation contributed to their loss of the House a few months later.

Five years later, Vice President Al Gore cast a tie-breaking Senate vote on legislation to restrict sales at gun shows.

The two events turned out to be the high-water mark of recent Democratic drives to enact federal legislation aimed at reducing gun violence, and some Republicans said they could see the shift coming.

"The news media in its lather to distort this whole issue may be wrong in their estimation that this will help Al Gore," then-Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., said in an Associated Press interview a few weeks after the tie-breaking vote. "As a matter of fact, it may already have hurt him, and it may hurt him a lot more."

By 2004, when the assault weapon ban lapsed, congressional Democrats made no serious attempt to pass an extension. President George W. Bush was content to let it fade into history.

Public sentiment had swung.

According to a Gallup poll in 1990, 78 percent of those surveyed said laws covering the sale of firearms should be stricter, while 19 percent said they should remain the same or be loosened.

By the fall of 2004 support for tougher laws had dropped to 54 percent. In last year's sounding, 43 percent said they should be stricter, and 55 percent said they should stay the same or be made more lenient.

In terms of electoral politics, Harry Wilson, a Roanoke College professor and author of a book on gun politics, said violent crime has been declining in recent years and, "It becomes increasingly difficult to make the argument that we need stricter gun control laws."

Additionally, he said in some regions, gun control "can be a winning issue for Democrats. But nationally, it's a loser ... and they have figured that out." Attempts to emphasize the issue will "really motivate the opposition. And in a political campaign, nobody wants to do that," he said.

At its core, Wilson said, the issue divides rural voters from urban voters.

Often, that means Republicans on one side, Democrats on the other. But not always.

In the current election cycle, the National Rifle Association has made 88 percent of its political donations to Republicans, and 12 percent to Democrats, according to OpenSecrets.org. The disparity obscures that the organization consistently supports some Democrats, a strategy that allows it to retain influence in both parties.

It also reported spending $2.9 million on lobbying last year.

Its clout was vividly on display in 2010 when majority Democrats in the House sidetracked legislation giving the District of Columbia a voting representative in the House of Representatives. Republicans had vowed to add an NRA-backed provision invalidating a city ban on handgun possession as the price for passage, and there was little doubt it had the votes to prevail.

Later in the year, the NRA objected to legislation to require groups airing political advertising to disclose donors. Fearing the fallout, enough rank and file Democrats demanded changes that the leadership had to revise the bill. A revised bill, granting the NRA and other large organizations an exemption, eventually passed.

Gross, head of the Brady Campaign, says Democrats have drawn the wrong lessons for years. "The cultural narrative exists because of the assessment of Al Gore's loss in 2000 and the mid-terms in 1994, and in both cases I think the gun issue was scapegoated," he said. "Those who didn't vote for Al Gore weren't going to vote for him anyway."

At the same time, Gross readily conceded the lingering hold of the issue.

"Look at Kerry when he felt he needed to dress up in hunting gear," he said, referring to the Democratic presidential candidate's well-photographed excursion into a duck blind in camouflage clothing in swing-state Ohio a few weeks before the 2004 election.

Four years later, Obama won the White House despite strong opposition from the NRA.

As a senator from Illinois and state lawmaker before that, he was a strong supporter of gun control.

Following last year's killing of six people and the wounding of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson, Ariz., Obama called for steps to "keep those irresponsible, law-breaking few from getting their hands on a gun in the first place."

He advanced no legislative proposals then, and on Friday, spokesman Jay Carney said, "The president believes that we need to take common-sense measures that protect Second Amendment rights of Americans, while ensuring that those who should not have guns under existing law do not get them."

Obama isn't the only 2012 White House candidate to adjust his views on gun control.

In a losing Senate campaign in Massachusetts in 1994, Romney said, "I don't line up with the NRA." A decade later, as governor, he signed legislation making a state assault weapons ban permanent.

This year, bidding for support at the NRA convention, he said: "We need a president who will enforce current laws, not create new ones that only serve to burden lawful gun owners."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/21/mass-shooting-prompts-calls-from-capitol-hill-and-beyond-for-tighter-gun-laws/#ixzz21LVfg5FH
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jools on July 22, 2012, 02:51:08 AM
Police looking for second “person of interest” in theater shooting

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AURORA, Colo. — Sources tell FOX31 Denver reporter Justin Joseph that a second man is now a person-of-interest in the Aurora theater shooting investigation. We are not disclosing his identity because he has not been charged.

Twelve people were killed and 58 injured early Friday when James Egan Holmes allegedly opened fire inside the crowded theater.

Neighbors of the person of interest say for the past two days there have been SWAT team and police cars in their alley and unmarked cars in street.

“He’s been there about a year,” said one neighbor.

Agents showed up again this morning.

“I woke up this morning with cops still here trying to look inside his home.  At 5:00 a.m. cops showed-up and asked me about (him).”

Sources tell Justin Joseph someone made either a call or a text from the person of interest’s phone threatening violence if James Egan Holmes was not released from jail. That call prompted police to issue an alert to find and detain him.

Sources also say a picture of Holmes with red hair on an adult website is what Egan looked like when he was arrested.

Neighbors recognized him instantly but they say he recently dyed his hair.

“I`ve seen him before,” said a neighbor to the person of interest.

The person of interest’s Facebook page shows he has a master’s degree in bio-medical science.

Anshutz Medical Center confirms he is in their doctorate program, the same program from which Holmes withdrew several months ago.

Out of caution police searched their campus Friday, but they won’t say what if anything they were looking for or found.

As for the person of interest, all law enforcement jurisdictions, local, state and federal, are looking for him.

Neighbors say he and his roommate left their home hours before the massacre.  They haven’t seen him since.

Aurora police declined to comment on this report due to the active nature of the investigation.

http://kdvr.com/2012/07/21/police-looking-for-second-person-of-interest-in-theater-shooting/
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 08:48:55 AM
...we have 100% proof that mass murderer James Eagan Holmes is a JEW!!!....

Actually, you haven't got a *shred*.

Holmes was reportedly Presbyterian. Camp Max Straus is a nonsectarian program for children ages 7-14.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 08:54:22 AM
Camp Max Straus seems very odd camp. Poor black kids and other poor kids are supervised by 100% Jewish big brothers and sisters?

No. It's run by Jewish Big Brother and Sisters of Los Angeles, but the ones who actually work with the kids come from different backgrounds and religions.

James Holmes was heavily-involved in the Presbyterian church, and it through this that he became a counselor at the camp.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Railroad Bum on July 22, 2012, 09:07:28 AM
Geligniteberg sounds right on this one - but 5 will get you 10 that mass murderer was on psychotropic drugs like Ritalin.  All of the school killers were.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 22, 2012, 09:09:04 AM
Where is his facebook page?  No ex girlfriends?  What is on his hard-drive?

Bogus.


The firedoor is a major deal ..... a 10 screen theater might 5000 people, and if one goes off you need to evacuate the building

The FBI under the ADL guidance is wiping everything clean. You have had jewish killers in Norway, Columbine, Gabby Gifford, George Zimmerman, etc. Having another horrific massacre ain't good for Zios.

His holiness Jacob Judicial did a beautiful piece on Columbine .... it was all jews .... they put a jew (Fuselier) in charge of the FBI investigation
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 09:22:45 AM
Geligniteberg sounds right on this one...

Imagine the time we could save if only you accepted this as a given.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 09:27:38 AM

The firedoor is a major deal ..... a 10 screen theater might 5000 people, and if one goes off you need to evacuate the building...

Who ever said that it was alarmed?

You need to get out of the house more. Plenty of movie theaters have rear/side exits to allow egress directly to the parking lot.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Railroad Bum on July 22, 2012, 09:33:05 AM
Imagine the time we could save if only you accepted this as a given.


The difference between me and you is I am honest, and I try to be fair and honest about everything, and I'm only interested in the truth about everything, and let the chips fall where they may.
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Post by: jools on July 22, 2012, 09:36:43 AM
Imagine the time we could save if only you accepted this as a given.

Could you share DNA sample of mass murderer or how did you prove that this guy is not a Jew? His facial features are Jewish.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on July 22, 2012, 09:37:52 AM
The gun jammed just saw this one on Yentahoo.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 09:52:40 AM
Could you share DNA sample of mass murderer or how did you prove that this guy is not a Jew? His facial features are Jewish.

You're the one who said he was a Jew, based on the fact that he worked at a camp that happens to be run by Jews.

I'm simply pointing out that someone who is "heavily-involved" in the Presbyterian church is obviously not a Jew.

If you're going to insist that Holmes is a Jew in spite of the fact, then the onus is upon you to provide a "DNA sample" which proves that he is.

As for his "facial features", I'd like to see some sort of qualitative analysis which supports your claim, as opposed to some opinion you're pulling directly out of your own a**hole.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jools on July 22, 2012, 10:17:57 AM
You're the one who said he was a Jew, based on the fact that he worked at a camp that happens to be run by Jews.

I'm simply pointing out that someone who is "heavily-involved" in the Presbyterian church is obviously not a Jew.

If you're going to insist that Holmes is a Jew in spite of the fact, then the onus is upon you to provide a "DNA sample" which proves that he is.

As for his "facial features", I'd like to see some sort of qualitative analysis which supports your claim, as opposed to some opinion you're pulling directly out of your own a**hole.

He was circumcised, all Jews are circumcised.

I don't really understand what you are talking about assholes, but probably you should leave that kind of talk to your local gay bathhouse?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jools on July 22, 2012, 10:25:29 AM
Who ever said that it was alarmed?

You need to get out of the house more. Plenty of movie theaters have rear/side exits to allow egress directly to the parking lot.

So people could get in without paying, if they just used fire exits?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 22, 2012, 10:38:56 AM
The first indication of a fire is people running out the fire door . Fire alarms are a major major concern in a crowded theater.

You can get away with stale popcorn, or a rude counter guy, but a massive fire is not so good
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jools on July 22, 2012, 11:05:28 AM
The first indication of a fire is people running out the fire door . Fire alarms are a major major concern in a crowded theater.

You can get away with stale popcorn, or a rude counter guy, but a massive fire is not so good

He was able to build complicated bomb traps, but he was studing neuroscience, which has nothing to do with building bombs. Where did he get knowledge to build such a bombs?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 22, 2012, 12:19:56 PM
He was able to build complicated bomb traps, but he was studing neuroscience, which has nothing to do with building bombs. Where did he get knowledge to build such a bombs?


What's the motive for the attack? As far as bombs - "So Jewish", they did that at Columbine.

I don't know, but this is a complicated deal. Jews are just nuts. Blowing the dyke in New Orleans, bombing countless airliners, shooting arab kids, sinking ships, firebombing Dresden, bombs in Iraq, and the list goes on. I guess this is about gun control.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 01:26:22 PM
So people could get in without paying, if they just used fire exits?

No. The doors only open from the inside - there's no mechanism on the outside with which to operate the latch. So once you exit, the only way to get back into the theater is to prop the door open somehow.

As Holmes reportedly did.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 01:29:50 PM
He was circumcised...

Most men in the United States are circumcised.

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...all Jews are circumcised.

Not everyone who is circumcised is a Jew. Obviously.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Judson on July 22, 2012, 02:51:54 PM
Most men in the United States are circumcised.

Are you suggesting that you look at most men genitals whenever you enter a public restroom?
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Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 03:31:44 PM
Are you suggesting that you look at most men genitals whenever you enter a public restroom?

Nope. I can read, is all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#United_States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#United_States)

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 22, 2012, 03:54:03 PM
Most men in the United States are circumcised.

Not everyone who is circumcised is a Jew. Obviously.

The CDC data, reported by the New York Times, showed that the incidence of circumcision declined from 56 percent in 2006 to 32.5 percent in 2009. According to these statistics, non-circumcision or genital integrity has become the normal condition among newborn boys in the United States.

source: http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/USA/ (http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/USA/)

And if it weren't for jew doctors I expect it would be a lot lower.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 22, 2012, 04:25:38 PM
Actually, you haven't got a *shred*.

Holmes was reportedly Presbyterian. Camp Max Straus is a nonsectarian program for children ages 7-14.
He claims he is circumcised - that's a  religious ritual
why bring it up????
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 04:26:48 PM
The CDC data, reported by the New York Times, showed that the incidence of circumcision declined from 56 percent in 2006 to 32.5 percent in 2009. According to these statistics, non-circumcision or genital integrity has become the normal condition among newborn boys in the United States.

source: http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/USA/ (http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/USA/)

That's all very interesting, but I was talking about men - adult men - living in the United States today. And most adult men living in the United States today are circumcised.

Furthermore, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and submit that James Holmes was born in a time when the incidence of circumcision among newborns was on the increase, rather than the current, "normal" condition.

Nice try, LW. But I think that even you would have to admit that the idea of Holmes being circumcised as a basis by which to declare him "Jewish" is a clear sign of desperation at this point.

Not to mention stupidity.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 22, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
One year to the day since Hans Brevik opened fire
Fourty years to the day (almost) of Munich. London Olympics begin
day after Israeli bus bombing with similar numbers of wounded to dead
Columbine within 20 miles
I wonder if he chose U of Colorado because it was close to Columbine?
might have planned this in advance
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 04:33:28 PM
He claims he is circumcised - that's a  religious ritual

Not exclusively. In fact, during the time period in which Holmes was born it was largely considered a health/medical issue. Which is why nearly half of all newborns were circumcised as a matter of course.

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why bring it up????

He brought it up on Adult Finder.

Adult Finder... the site for people looking to hook up.

...

I don't think I really have to explain this to you, do I?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 22, 2012, 04:39:49 PM
no it was a message
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 04:44:15 PM
no it was a message

It's on his Adult Finder profile, plain as day.

To what "message" are you referring?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 22, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
That's all very interesting, but I was talking about men - adult men - living in the United States today. And most adult men living in the United States today are circumcised.

From the data I've looked at you are correct... about 70% of males in the US have been circumcised. In the world, about 20%. Most of the those circumcised came after WW2.

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Furthermore, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and submit that James Holmes was born in a time when the incidence of circumcision among newborns was on the increase, rather than the current, "normal" condition.

Happily the rate is in decline.

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Nice try, LW. But I think that even you would have to admit that the idea of Holmes being circumcised as a basis by which to declare him "Jewish" is a clear sign of desperation at this point.

I never made that claim but one thing is certain... 100% of all jew males ARE circumcised. Traumatizing an innocent child is de riguer with these people, followed up with victim training in their yeshivas from an early age.

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Not to mention stupidity.

Ah, gratuitous insult.

I am convinced that this yahoo was not operating alone however. 13 miles from Columbine 13 years after. Aurora... the rise of a new dawn. Batman... the rise of the Dark Knight. The whole incident is replete with symbolism not to mention that one man with a semi-automatic managed to kill 12 and injure 50 in a dark theater, wearing a fog free mask and full swat gear all speaks to serious anomalies in the media and law enforcement stories. What amazes me is how quickly you appear to try and derail the discussion itself whenever this of sort of shit goes down.

And of course the whole issue of circumcision as a health issue was promulgated by who? It was certainly not based on medical science. But then neither are vaccines.

You can prattle on all you like but the evidence that the jews are trying to destroy all nations and precipitate universal genocide is plain as day. But of course before they catapult us all into WW3 they'll have stolen everything from everyone.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
100% of all jew males ARE circumcised.

Yes. But that doesn't mean that 100% of all circumcised males are Jewish. Not by the longest shot.

What's the percentage of Jew males in the United States, anyway? 1-2%?

Versus the roughly 70% of the *total* population (i.e., non-Jews) of males in the United States who are circumcised.


You can now see how ridiculous is this argument, can't you?

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Ah, gratuitous insult.

It wasn't directed at you, in any event.

And it wasn't an insult. It's the truth.

The argument that James Holmes is a "Jew" simply by virtue of his having been circumcised is silly on its face.

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I am convinced that this yahoo was not operating alone however. 13 miles from Columbine 13 years after. Aurora... the rise of a new dawn. Batman... the rise of the Dark Knight. The whole incident is replete with symbolism not to mention that one man with a semi-automatic managed to kill 12 and injure 50 in a dark theater, wearing a fog free mask and full swat gear all speaks to serious anomalies in the media and law enforcement stories. What amazes me is how quickly you appear to try and derail the discussion itself whenever this of sort of shit goes down.

Not at all. In fact, I would encourage you and others to argue this notion based on the points you're raising (above). By all means, go forth and fully-explore the all of the numerological aspects of the case (e.g., 13 miles/13 years, etc.). I can assure you that I will not derail any such discussion in the slightest.

I'm much more concerned with various points of fact that have been twisted around (as they often tend to). Like this idea that Holmes is a Jew.


Someone somewhere might actually believe *that* to be true.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 22, 2012, 05:44:23 PM
You can now see how ridiculous is this argument, can't you?

The argument that James Holmes is a "Jew" simply by virtue of his having been circumcised is silly on its face.

No, it doesn't make the case... it merely adds to the evidence which so far is:

(1) circumcised.
(2) counselor at a Jewish camp.
(3) features
(4) penchant for perversion

I'm sure more details will be forthcoming. Unlike Columbine there is an army of independent investigators these days compared to the handful we had back then. To say one way or the other with any certainty at this point is folly until more is known. You are already saying no. I'm saying wait and see.
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Post by: Judson on July 22, 2012, 05:46:00 PM
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Every data set showed a decline. For example, the 1999-2010 National Hospital Discharge Survey showed that fewer than 12 million of nearly 20 million newborn boys were circumcised over the past decade. The survey showed that the rate of in-hospital circumcisions dropped from 62.5% in 1999 to 56.9% in 2008.



http://healthland.time.com/2011/09/02/cdc-why-are-u-s-circumcision-rates-declining/ (http://healthland.time.com/2011/09/02/cdc-why-are-u-s-circumcision-rates-declining/)



Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/09/02/cdc-why-are-u-s-circumcision-rates-declining/#ixzz21PD09SNk[/quote]
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Post by: gelignite on July 22, 2012, 06:43:38 PM
No, it doesn't make the case... it merely adds to the evidence which so far is:

(1) circumcised.

Meaningless. Most males in the U.S. are circumcised.

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(2) counselor at a Jewish camp.

Misleading. The camp was nonsectarian (i.e., its counselors and attendees were of various faiths). Holmes wasn't a Jewish Big Brother, he was heavily-involved in the Presbyterian church.

This alone should nix the argument. Jews, after all, aren't "heavily-involved" in churches of other faiths.

And then there are interviews with other camp counselors who worked with Holmes in which it's been said that he was not Jewish.

And that's kismet.

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(3) features
(4) penchant for perversion

I'll give you those. If you're gonna argue that Holmes is Jewish on such a basis, then it'll wind up saying more about you than it will about him.

It's all you have in the end.

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You are already saying no. I'm saying wait and see.

I'm saying that there's no evidence thus far, other than that to which people are being lead by their own deep biases.

"Features", huh.

Good, then. You go out and argue to anyone (other then the usual choir) about how Holmes is a Jew by virtue of his "features" and his "penchant for perversion", and I'll sit back and watch what happens to you.


There's so little that I have to do these days.
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 22, 2012, 06:53:47 PM
Hate to take the side of Mr Gelignite again, but for many years almost all white male babies in the USA were circumcised.

On the other hand, here's Israeli news Ha'aretz reporting on the mass murderer:

Colorado shooting suspect worked at a Jewish summer camp, says L.A. report


http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/colorado-shooting-suspect-worked-at-a-jewish-summer-camp-says-l-a-report-1.452713

So maybe you fellers are right and he is a Talmudist.  If so, they're going to have a harder time sweeping this one under the rug than they usually do with Jewish mass murderers, like that one on Long island who wiped out a drugstore full of people, and was almost immediately disappeared from the news, as I predicted...but of course the really serious Jewish mass murderers, like the the retired USSR Gulag death camp commanders, they're sitting on their big fat tukhases in Brighton Beach and West Hollywood soaking up the sun and collecting reparations money and every form of welfare known to man.


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Post by: dominique on July 22, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
Hello guys, long time no see.

What an awful, awful disaster. Here's my take on this guy: If everything, or even most everything we've heard in the media so far is true about his behavior and history, then I won't be surprised if this guy is a paranoid schizophrenic. He fits the profile to a T. Symptoms, and manifestations in Holmes:

-delusions, paranoid delusions, hallucinations (he was obviously acting like everyone was out to get him, and supposedly while in jail, he just "can't get out of his Joker character" - ie he really believes that's who he is. And that crazy booby trapped apartment thing.)
-difficulty in keeping work/school commitments (for reasons yet unknown, he withdrew from his degree program a month or so before, which was also paying him a salary, so he lost his job, too)
-antisocial behavior (obvious one here)
-erratic thinking and actions (going from mass-murder to total calmness, then back to abusive when he was spitting at everyone at the jail)
-slurred or strange speaking (the gun range owner who rejected his membership application did so because his answering machine message was so slurred and creepy - said he didn't think the kid was drunk though, just not right in the head)
-recreational drug use (his neighbor said he smoked pot in back of the apt building, and who knows what else - he was also a drinker. Use  of any of these kind of chemicals can actually CAUSE schizophrenia, especially in people predisposed to it)
-Highly intelligent

And finally, the fact of his age and that he was having trouble in his program (apparently). Schizophrenia usually starts progressing in the teens, and by the 20s it can be very intense. (Remember John Nash, the game theory guy, and the book A Beautiful Mind?) It sounds like perhaps he had lack of focus due to impaired thinking, paranoia, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason he withdrew from his program is because he was failing out, or doing poorly, or maybe just some nonsensical reason. Then, the "out to get me" phase kicks in, where it's everyone else's fault that he has no more school OR job, no girlfriend or partner, perhaps not even any friends, living on his own far away from family, etc etc. And then comes the acting out, as we've seen.

Now I realize that this is all speculation, but that's just my opinion for now. Tomorrow when he is arraigned, could be interesting. All of this said, he could still get the death penalty rather than cop an insanity plea, just because it's the biggest massacre we've ever had in the US (when deaths and casualties are combined).
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Post by: dominique on July 22, 2012, 07:09:37 PM
"Not exclusively. In fact, during the time period in which Holmes was born it was largely considered a health/medical issue. Which is why nearly half of all newborns were circumcised as a matter of course."

Wow, I actually agree with Jelly on something.
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Post by: dominique on July 22, 2012, 07:11:20 PM
Why does everyone always assume the guy is Jewish just because he's smart, nuts, and violent?  ;D

He's some sort of Brit descent from the Mayflower folks. And a Lutheran.
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 22, 2012, 07:20:59 PM
Why does everyone always assume the guy is Jewish...

I didn't assume he was Jewish.  And I just assumed that Mr Gelignite was Jewish because he said that the Israelis mistook the World Trade Center towers for 19th century Egyptian horse scows...or was that the USS Liberty?
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 22, 2012, 08:32:19 PM
Meaningless. Most males in the U.S. are circumcised.

I conceded that point, however had he not been circumcised we would not be having this conversation.

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Misleading. The camp was nonsectarian (i.e., its counselors and attendees were of various faiths). Holmes wasn't a Jewish Big Brother, he was heavily-involved in the Presbyterian church.

This alone should nix the argument. Jews, after all, aren't "heavily-involved" in churches of other faiths.

Not misleading at all. No such thing as non-sectarian jews. Their literature is clear that gentiles are nothing but beasts so any effort on their part to do anything for gentiles is contrary to their indoctrination and if done, is done for a purpose.

As to the idea that jews aren't heavily involved in churches of other faiths is ridiculous. In fact the Presbyterian Church long ago changed the biblical prohibition against usury of any kind to permitting usury if not excessive. I could cite example after example of such infiltration and jew inspired revision of Christian doctrine but I'll leave it with just that one church instance of their own corruption.

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And then there are interviews with other camp counselors who worked with Holmes in which it's been said that he was not Jewish.

Hearsay is rather weak evidence.

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I'll give you those. If you're gonna argue that Holmes is Jewish on such a basis, then it'll wind up saying more about you than it will about him.

You keep telling me that I say he is a jew whereas I have made the point that he may or may not be. Even he was Christian to work with jews is bad enough. Stop putting words in my mouth. It's an annoying attempt at labeling.

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I'm saying that there's no evidence thus far, other than that to which people are being lead by their own deep biases.

I already made my list based on what little has been revealed. I'm sure with a little more time more facts will be forthcoming.

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"Features", huh.

Yaw... having grown up in a predominantly jew neighborhood and with the jew media it's surprising how easy they are to spot. It's not foolproof but generally telling.

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Good, then. You go out and argue to anyone (other then the usual choir) about how Holmes is a Jew by virtue of his "features" and his "penchant for perversion", and I'll sit back and watch what happens to you.

I'm not that stupid. Else I would have already stated as much.
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Post by: curiousity on July 23, 2012, 12:42:05 AM
Huh?

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9849/mamzerworld.jpg)

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Post by: bpocatch on July 23, 2012, 02:40:24 AM
Mamzer lol  ;D Is that guy in the lower left the killer in norway or sweden?
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Post by: jools on July 23, 2012, 04:02:34 AM
There's so little that I have to do these days.

What is your job description and who is paying your salary? My guess is your job is ADL hate monitor and US tax payers are paying your salary.

In this thread, we are just speculating what are the chances that he is a Jew. Generally we have proven that the Jews are corruptive and dangerous force to all Goyims. You obviously are not a Goyim.
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Post by: Father Brown on July 23, 2012, 04:52:44 AM
Why do we even care that this man may be a Jew? Well, IMHO, there are very good reasons. Even if they are below the surface and are not readily transparent. Now, please do not dismiss this out of hand if you have fallen into the allurements of this world and have given up on the supernatural life. That is completely understandable in this fallen and broken world. I am by no means trying to condemn those whose faith may have weakened or they have decided that there is not point to a faith or a creed. But, please hear me out.

Jews, in spite of what people like Pastor John Hagee may say, generally think the party is here and now. Get what I can while I am here. Because death is eternal. Christians do not believe this. And Hindus may be worried that they will end up as a fly on a piece of dog crap in some nasty alley. These people have no fear and no shame. This can lead to this kind of behavior. Some poor souls commit suicide because they are looking for a release from pain or guilt. Others, the most selfish, decide to take others with them. Others on top of the heap, get the joy of doing evil and they are so high up the food chain that they do not even have to sacrifice themselves to death or possible prison time.

So even if you have lost your Christian Faith, and think all these things you may have been taught, or merely heard, are fairy stories, there is still a remnant of doing the right thing. Of curbing the passions. Now, of course this is all learned behavior and it has nothing to do with DNA. A Jew can be taught to be moral and a gentile can certainly learn the ways of the Jew. There are more than plenty and they are countless. Let's be fair about that.

OK. Enough amateur theology here. I understand this is not a religious board. Let's get clinical about what it means to do the right thing and what the consequences can be for those who become slaves to sin, in the Christian context, or who cultivate a disordered life through leading amoral lives from a secular standpoint.

Let's look at porn, since this guy obviously has a porn star pictured behind him on his "Adult" Friend Finder Account that he must have created in some kind of photoshop application. What does this tell us?

It tells me that it may be entirely possible that an addiction to porn and masturbation could lead to guilt that is not well handled. I think many young men commit suicide over this "freedom". Others might want to alleviate their guilt by taking others with them. I am just going to touch on this one angle since the permissive lifestyle of porn encapsulates the homo movement and all the other forms of degeneracy that are out there in this stinking culture.

Even this story is a type of porn. Their is financial porn. Anybody read Barons or the WSJ or Money Magazine during the stock market bubbles. Watch CNBC? This is a sickness in this culture. And the only cure for it is doing the right thing. Why does the media go into excruciating detail to explain the how, in explaining these stories, but never the why?

Could it be that people might catch on? That the only way you can protect yourself from the rich and powerful in any meaningful way is to "do the right thing"? They have sold freedom in this country as being able to do with your body whatever your heart desires. Whether it be kill the unborn in the womb, have homo sex, masturbate endlessly to all the free porn out there that you can handle, etc, etc, etc.

What about shows like CSI or Bones, where they show people having normal conversations and jokes and water cooler talk around dead cadavers. Opened up to show all the organs. We are talking about mutilated fellow human beings here. Do you think this can play a part in the desensitization process? I certainly do?

The genius behind this all is that they have sold sexual degeneracy as freedom. It is not freedom, but it is slavery to the passions for you atheists and agnostics, to us Christians it is slavery and bondage to sin.

Again, this is just a most obvious example I can give. Others would include this need to possess things and this willingness to lie, cheat and steal to get to the top. This has a tendency to warp society and it most certainly does. The entire world is upside down and is a complete lie.

Check out this video by Morris interviewing E. Michael Jones. And tell me if you think I may be on to something here. Again, my question is why are we teaching our children how to have safe sex? Or that homosexuality is a viable lifestyle. And no dares to make the connection that this disorder may in fact lead to outbreaks of violence? And violence that in the worse case scenario leads to the hurting, wounding, and killing of other people that have no part in the psychosis that the one dishing it out may be involved in.

But, we have endless stories about the harm cigarettes may do to you and everyone else. Or the drinking of coffee, etc, etc, etc.

Why must we go to out of the way blogs, or boards like these, to try and even get an answer, or simply ask the question as to what the heck is going on? It is preposterous. Or why is E. Michael Jones and Michael Hoffman and others like them relegated as having extreme views and are not "worthy" to participate in polite discourse? We can see where polite has gotten us, now can't we?

Either way, I will shut up for now. You guys don't need a white paper from me. Here is a link to the video for those who may want to watch it. I think it is a big piece of the puzzle. Perhaps you agree or disagree. But, I just wanted to throw this out there. Again, the question is why doesn't the media as the question "why"? I thought the journalistic creed was "Who, what where, when, and why"? Oh, and one other thing, there seems to be a blending between these random acts of violence like 9-11 and this tragedy that seem to want to tie reality with fiction.

Weak man that I am, it wasn't so long ago that I used to kind of get off on talking about war and keeping tabs on what was going on. There was a time when I would get really involved in a story like this, if only to gossip about it and get every detail. Why I do not know. But, I would suspect it would have something to do with my own moral failings and being able to point out to someone like this and say to myself, "at least I don't do that!". As if, as if, this somehow was a panacea or justification for my own moral failings.

Here is a link to the youtube. Let me know if you think I may be on to something here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vdK0lgvgrU&feature=plcp
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 07:08:48 AM
Whether or not this guy is a Jew, in all or in part (and I seriously doubt he is at all), the important thing is that he's obviously a certifiable nutcase. And someone kept saying he's Presbyterian, but he's not. He is Lutheran. There is a story out there (I forget which news source), interviewing his former pastor in California.

I will remind everyone that he is of an age where schizophrenia tends to start severely expressing itself. His drug use would only exacerbate that.

This is not a multi-shooter event, nor is it a psy-op (although the usual gun-grabbing crowd is certainly and predictably taking advantage of this absolute gift [to them] of a massacre), it's really not that complicated. What's complicated is this kid's mindset and motivation. And combined with our ultraviolence-glorifying culture that served as his inspiration to commit this atrocity, this is the REAL tragedy.

You may now all return to your jew-bashing ;)

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Post by: tennesseejew1948 on July 23, 2012, 07:11:43 AM
hi :)
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Post by: gelignite on July 23, 2012, 07:23:50 AM
Whether or not this guy is a Jew, in all or in part (and I seriously doubt he is at all), the important thing is that he's obviously a certifiable nutcase. And someone kept saying he's Presbyterian, but he's not. He is Lutheran. There is a story out there (I forget which news source), interviewing his former pastor in California.

I will remind everyone that he is of an age where schizophrenia tends to start severely expressing itself. His drug use would only exacerbate that.

This is not a multi-shooter event, nor is it a psy-op (although the usual gun-grabbing crowd is certainly and predictably taking advantage of this absolute gift [to them] of a massacre), it's really not that complicated. What's complicated is this kid's mindset and motivation. And combined with our ultraviolence-glorifying culture that served as his inspiration to commit this atrocity, this is the REAL tragedy.

You may now all return to your jew-bashing ;)

Hear, hear.
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Post by: OldTimes on July 23, 2012, 07:32:26 AM
This is not a multi-shooter event, nor is it a psy-op (although the usual gun-grabbing crowd is certainly and predictably taking advantage of this absolute gift [to them] of a massacre), it's really not that complicated. What's complicated is this kid's mindset and motivation. And combined with our ultraviolence-glorifying culture that served as his inspiration to commit this atrocity, this is the REAL tragedy.

Maybe it's the violent video games?

I agree too many cases are attributed to some pre-planned "psy-op", but somehow I doubt we'll be able to verify this kid will be in prison 3 years from now.
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 23, 2012, 07:34:06 AM
Whether or not this guy is a Jew, in all or in part (and I seriously doubt he is at all), the important thing is that he's obviously a certifiable nutcase....


And most likely he's a "certifiable nut case" because he was put on government mandated psychotropic drugs, like Ritalin.  I believe that all of the school age killers were on those drugs - and they have conspired to pass laws to make it illegal to even reveal that information.  School age suicides too.  10% of US children are on those hard drugs, most of them boys, meaning almost 20% of boys, and most of those boys are the most intelligent and imaginative, and consequently most restless in class. 
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 23, 2012, 07:37:46 AM
"What's complicated is this kid's mindset and motivation. And combined with our ultraviolence-glorifying culture that served as his inspiration to commit this atrocity"


Yes, the canon fodder are fed a constant diet of ultraviolent mass murdering "entertainment" in this war-without-end country - movies, video games, tv -prepping them to do their thing for the occupational government, that is slaughtering poor people on the far corners of the world for israhel and wall street
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Post by: jacob gold on July 23, 2012, 07:58:20 AM
James Holmes job at the Jewish Summer Camp

(http://www.jbbbsla.org/images/jbb_newskin/jbb_header.jpg)




The Max Strauss Camp

(http://www.jbbbsla.org/images/uploaded/e94b9fa4f8d7773f9e03c8b52d01476b.jpg)






Volunteer/JBBBS

Q: What are the qualifications for becoming a Jewish Big Brother or Big Sister?

A: You must be Jewish and over the age of 21.


http://www.jbbbsla.org/jbbbsla/index.php?page=18#VolunteerJBBBS
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Post by: curiousity on July 23, 2012, 07:58:43 AM
This is a jew.

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8950/philspectornephew.gif)

He kills goyim. Period.
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 23, 2012, 08:01:20 AM
James Holmes job at the Jewish Summer Camp

(http://www.jbbbsla.org/images/jbb_newskin/jbb_header.jpg)




The Max Strauss Camp

(http://www.jbbbsla.org/images/uploaded/e94b9fa4f8d7773f9e03c8b52d01476b.jpg)






Volunteer/JBBBS

Q: What are the qualifications for becoming a Jewish Big Brother or Big Sister?

A: You must be Jewish and over the age of 21.


http://www.jbbbsla.org/jbbbsla/index.php?page=18#VolunteerJBBBS


Good find! 
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 23, 2012, 08:25:55 AM
"What's complicated is this kid's mindset and motivation. And combined with our ultraviolence-glorifying culture that served as his inspiration to commit this atrocity"


Yes, the canon fodder are fed a constant diet of ultraviolent mass murdering "entertainment" in this war-without-end country - movies, video games, tv -prepping them to do their thing for the occupational government, that is slaughtering poor people on the far corners of the world for israhel and wall street




A former classmate from the University of Colorado suggested another cause for the killings, saying Holmes had lost touch with reality after becoming 'obsessed' with video games.

The classmate told the Daily Mail: 'James was obsessed with computer games and was always playing role-playing games.

'I can’t remember which one but it was something like World of Warcraft, one of those where you compete against people on the internet.

'He did not have much of a life apart from that and doing his work. James seemed like he wanted to be in the game and be one of the characters.

'It seemed that being online was more important to him than real life. He must have lost his sense of reality, how else can you shoot dozens of people you don’t know?'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177736/James-Holmes-Dark-Knight-massacre-gunman-appears-court-prosecutors-seek-death-penalty.html#ixzz21Skc015J
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Post by: OldTimes on July 23, 2012, 08:37:46 AM
A former classmate from the University of Colorado suggested another cause for the killings, saying Holmes had lost touch with reality after becoming 'obsessed' with video games.

The classmate told the Daily Mail: 'James was obsessed with computer games and was always playing role-playing games.

'I can’t remember which one but it was something like World of Warcraft, one of those where you compete against people on the internet.

'He did not have much of a life apart from that and doing his work. James seemed like he wanted to be in the game and be one of the characters.

'It seemed that being online was more important to him than real life. He must have lost his sense of reality, how else can you shoot dozens of people you don’t know?'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177736/James-Holmes-Dark-Knight-massacre-gunman-appears-court-prosecutors-seek-death-penalty.html#ixzz21Skc015J

I fully expected the jMSM to explore this angle.
Since none of us can be safe anymore from ourselves, we must all give up our guns!
What BS.
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 23, 2012, 08:49:49 AM
I fully expected out jMSM to explore this angle.
Since none of us can be safe anymore from ourselves, we must all give up our guns!
What BS.


I don't see any connection between an armed citizenry and the ultraviolence instilled into them by the occupational government, plus the mandated psychotropic drug programs for school age boys, though of course that will be the agitrop from Mayor Bloomberg and the rest.  Earlier Americans were well armed and didn't do things like this; Swiss people have always been well armed and don't do things like this.  If the theater patrons were well armed someone might have stopped this madman in his tracks, as happens so often by honest citizens who are armed, but those cases are always ignored by the controlled media.
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 08:55:54 AM
James Holmes job at the Jewish Summer Camp

(http://www.jbbbsla.org/images/jbb_newskin/jbb_header.jpg)




The Max Strauss Camp

(http://www.jbbbsla.org/images/uploaded/e94b9fa4f8d7773f9e03c8b52d01476b.jpg)






Volunteer/JBBBS

Q: What are the qualifications for becoming a Jewish Big Brother or Big Sister?

A: You must be Jewish and over the age of 21.


http://www.jbbbsla.org/jbbbsla/index.php?page=18#VolunteerJBBBS

Umm, hate ta break it to ya, but....

"Holmes, the staffer said, was not Jewish.  During the summer, Camp Max Straus serves a primarily non-Jewish population of low-income and disadvantaged youths through Jewish Big Brothers/Big Sisters.
During the holiday season, the organiztion runs a Chanuka Camp."

http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/former_jewish_camp_staffer_worked_closely_with_james_holmes_20120722/

Oh, and by the way, you people are ignorant of what that organization is. Holmes was ONLY a counselor, for the summer. Not a Big Brother. He had 10 kids in his charge. Jewish Big Brothers (and Sisters) have ONE child as their ONGOING charge. How can you people not know this about BB/BS in general??
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 09:07:00 AM
This is a jew.

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8950/philspectornephew.gif)

Right. LMAO, because the lawyer sitting next to him looks a helluva lot more jewish than he does. (And given the high ratio of jews in the DeweyCheatemAndHow business, she probably is.)

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He kills goyim. Period.

Really? So absolutely NO jews were in that entire theater at the time? Thanks for that info, Sherlock.

Honestly, you people get so lost in the "is s/he a jew?" nonsense, that you are ignoring the fact that it's our jew-corrupted CULTURE (and those in charge of it) that glorifies violence, sexual perversions of all sorts, porn, drugs (including prescription ones like Ritalin that are fucking up our kids to no end), horror, scatology, degradation of religion, etc. etc., that is the REAL issue behind an online-first-person-shooter nutcase like James Holmes being inspired to commit such an atrocity.

And LoneWolf wonders why I don't post here much anymore. Because I'm already on to the jew scam, and you people are pikers. You just throw anything to do with "jew" against the wall on every single issue, and see what sticks. And no, I'm not defending ANY of the vermin.

Please, open your eyes.
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 09:16:52 AM
"And most likely he's a "certifiable nut case" because he was put on government mandated psychotropic drugs, like Ritalin.  I believe that all of the school age killers were on those drugs - and they have conspired to pass laws to make it illegal to even reveal that information.  School age suicides too.  10% of US children are on those hard drugs, most of them boys, meaning almost 20% of boys, and most of those boys are the most intelligent and imaginative, and consequently most restless in class. "

Agree 100% with werewolf.
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Post by: curiousity on July 23, 2012, 09:23:38 AM
The cointelpro witch is right Jake. Jews never lie in their articles.
Do your homework next time Jake.

(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4634/jamesholmeskhazarserpen.jpg)

You and the rest of the thread nonsense flooders,
lost the propaghanda war witch. Get over it.
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 09:33:08 AM
The cointelpro witch is right Jake. Jews never lie in their articles.
Do your homework next time Jake.

You and the rest of the thread nonsense flooders,
lost the propaghanda war witch. Get over it.

Ha! I knew it wouldn't take long before one of you clowns called me a "jew," a psy-op, or controlled opposition of some sort. I was going to predict it in 3...2...1 in my last post, but forgot. Well, if anyone is flooding this thread with total, unproven "nonsense," it's you two.

I bet LoneWolf, who has known me for about 8 years or so, will laugh his ass off when he reads your idiotic and misguided rant. People like you and "Jake" do a huge disservice to the cause. Pikers.


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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 09:37:00 AM
"Jews never lie in their articles."

Were the jews then also lying in the Jewish Big Brothers/Big Sisters link he posted? Why would Jake post something from those lying vermin? Either you accept credibility from jewish sources, or you don't. Don't cherry pick. Idiot.
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Post by: curiousity on July 23, 2012, 09:44:58 AM
"Jews never lie in their articles."

Were the jews then also lying in the Jewish Big Brothers/Big Sisters link he posted? Why would Jake post something from those lying vermin? Either you accept credibility from jewish sources, or you don't. Don't cherry pick. Idiot.

I hear rumors that people here are agents of
I.R.I.S.: Information Regarding Israel's Security
www.iris.org.il/

So flood away if its protecting your bloodline.
I've seen worse zogbots in Potok's Aryan Nations front, lady.
 
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 10:22:38 AM
I hear rumors that people here are agents of
I.R.I.S.: Information Regarding Israel's Security
www.iris.org.il/

So flood away if its protecting your bloodline.
I've seen worse zogbots in Potok's Aryan Nations front, lady.
 

So, would you mind answering my question? What makes the jewish BB/BS website credible to you and Jake, and not the jewish staffer that was interviewed? Why cherry-pick? Plus like I said, you guys have completely misunderstood the workings of BB/BS (the whole org in general), or you would see the stupidity of calling Holmes "jewish" based on that link.

By the way, I am not familiar with the link you posted and really don't care. I also really don't care what you think. If you had any concerns about my credibility here, you can check with your friendly admins LoneWolf and SushiGirl. And in addition, you can politely go fuck yourself, mr. controlled opposition.
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Post by: curiousity on July 23, 2012, 10:25:49 AM
Please lady. Allow me to add to flood the thread too-

http://www.youtube.com/v/LZzrpp7UAjQ
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 10:28:40 AM
Note to LoneWolf and SushiGirl:

The above exchange with Jewryosity is exactly the reason I rarely even read this board, let alone post. I can't even discuss anything other than whether so-and-so is a jew, and too many people here are either so paranoid-delusional they can't see anything without sticking a jew label on it somewhere, instead of looking at the big picture of the jewish conspiracy - or they're flat-out shills and plants. This one is even calling me jewish, LOL.

No wonder Proemio, the best poster this board ever had, doesn't post here anymore, and there are few left who are worth a damn (yourself, Laconas, OldTimes and Ajax are about it, that I can think of). It's become a fucking three-ring circus.

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Post by: gelignite on July 23, 2012, 10:29:16 AM
And LoneWolf wonders why I don't post here much anymore.

How I do miss the days of the more sophisticated level of anti-Semitism and Jew hatred that people like you used to bring to the table, dom.


Nowadays there's not much I have to do but let people speak their minds.

I even encourage them now and then.
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 10:31:46 AM
Please lady. Allow me to add to flood the thread too-

http://www.youtube.com/v/LZzrpp7UAjQ

Good piece. What's the relevence to this thread? Oh, I forgot, as long as it has to do with jews, it's relevance.

However, they should ban yours and Jake's ass just for posting misleading info that waters down the valid research concerning the jewish question. Not only are you misinformed and fake, you're an idiot.
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Post by: gelignite on July 23, 2012, 10:35:01 AM
...there are few left who are worth a damn (yourself, Laconas, OldTimes and Ajax are about it, that I can think of). It's become a fucking three-ring circus.

This forum isn't what it used to be, that's for sure. Then again, these people are your fellow travelers, dom.

Better-read and more articulate though you may be.
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Post by: curiousity on July 23, 2012, 11:03:28 AM
I'm pretty sure if you zogbots want to flood the thread with talk of Holmes' circimcised penis, his video games, his ritalin, as a defense for his talmudic rampage on goyim, you can.

But I assume it is just way too incriminating of a pattern of jewish mass-murder cells embedded and aided by mossad within US government, conducting treasonous murder of soft-target US civilians on US soil, which is punishable by death, last time I heard.
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Post by: jacob gold on July 23, 2012, 11:49:40 AM
I'm pretty sure if you zogbots want to flood the thread with talk of Holmes' circimcised penis, his video games, his ritalin, as a defense for his talmudic rampage on goyim, you can.

 

The  key here is the picture of Holmes with red hair (obviously Jewish ) and the camp states counselors must be Jewish. Talking about circumcision is distracting.
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Post by: Vidarr on July 23, 2012, 12:03:54 PM
Ha! I knew it wouldn't take long before one of you clowns called me a "jew," a psy-op, or controlled opposition of some sort. I was going to predict it in 3...2...1 in my last post, but forgot. Well, if anyone is flooding this thread with total, unproven "nonsense," it's you two.

I can predict someone's going to mention he's smelling a fart if i let one rip. Doesn't make me Nostradameus.

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What makes the jewish BB/BS website credible to you and Jake, and not the jewish staffer that was interviewed?
Because the information on the website predates the shootings but the interview was done after the shooting which makes it more plausible the jewish staffer wants to distance himself , the camp and their jewishness from the shooter and shift the blame elsewhere. One is evidence , the other simply a statement.



 
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Post by: jacob gold on July 23, 2012, 12:06:14 PM
   People like you and "Jake" do a huge disservice to the cause. 


The real harm is the immigration issue, and the coming economic collapse. Educating people on the 'Jewish Problem' starts with the Amy Bishops, Jared Laughners, James Holmes, Maddoffs. Talking about the holocaust is like talking religion - Is there a God, is there a heaven and hell, etc.

Look at the way zios used the pedophile priest issue - they turned a lot of people into church haters.

The Aurora shooter was a Jewish man, and the issue of motive must be explored. Look at Phil Spector ... stuck a gun in a girl's mouth, killed her, and then molested the corpse. Obviously the inbreeding made Spector unstable, but then there is the 'We are superior - goys are cattle' thing.

Educating people on the Zio problem starts with a Zimmerman or Holmes
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Post by: gelignite on July 23, 2012, 12:10:41 PM
....the camp states counselors must be Jewish.

That's not what it states.

You posted it yourself:

[...

Q: What are the qualifications for becoming a Jewish Big Brother or Big Sister?

A: You must be Jewish and over the age of 21.

...]

Holmes wasn't a "Big Brother". He was a counselor.

No requirement to be Jewish in order to be a counselor.


FAIL.
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Post by: Vidarr on July 23, 2012, 12:15:22 PM
and the issue of motive must be explored...

Educating people on the Zio problem starts with a Zimmerman or Holmes

What if the killings are retaliations for dead jews. They repeatedly stated throughout the past that they live by an attitude of "if one of us dies ,ten of yours die".
Perhaps there is a connection between trayvon or with the recent bus bombing of israeli kids.
It might be interesting to search for jewish casualties predating mass shootings in the US.
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Post by: gelignite on July 23, 2012, 12:15:50 PM
...the information on the website predates the shootings...

The information on the Web site indicates that the camp was nonsectarian and catered to poor and underprivileged kids aged 7-14 (i.e., non-Jews).


Do you not accept this as fact?

If not, why not?
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Post by: jacob gold on July 23, 2012, 12:31:57 PM


A Bubelah hopped up on drugs using this gun

(http://www.betaco.com/img/_m16m4.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwrel&v=Tm1mBhLNT_s&NR=1   ....  20 second video of Holmes gun
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Post by: curiousity on July 23, 2012, 12:38:14 PM
I'm trying to understand your views Jake-
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-7058222283109754341

But I like Vidarr's suspicions that was a terrorist hit on US goyim, to blanket credibility on the fake bulgarian bus bomb hoax by an upset talmudic jew pediatric neuologist from adult friend finder that had aide from jewish mossad embedded in a freemasonic govt infrastructure.

Who knows.
This poor, upset, talmudic jew pediatric neuologist from adult friend finder,
could gotten a bad case of Lyme Disease-
http://www.youtube.com/v/DifGRZVwiIg

Along with his penis circumcision issues, ritalin, video games, and inbredded disorders,
he could have been in a really bad mood, to where he and mossad stealth assailants could have done a ritual theatre slaughter of goy.
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Post by: OldTimes on July 23, 2012, 01:48:59 PM
This forum isn't what it used to be, that's for sure.

Amazing how an event such as this brings certain people back to the forum, mainly saying "no it wasn't jews" and "you guys are all nutcases".

How much more of this can our country take before people recognize the problem?  the same problem recognized by many countries since the beginning of history.
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 01:55:33 PM
The  key here is the picture of Holmes with red hair (obviously Jewish )

See, this exactly the kind of disinfo BS I am talking about. Holmes is "obviously Jewish" for having red hair? Surely you're pulling our legs, with everyone knowing he colored it from its original dark brown.

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and the camp states counselors must be Jewish. Talking about circumcision is distracting.

And now you are being exasperatingly obtuse. You completely ignored this quote:
Umm, hate ta break it to ya, but....

"Holmes, the staffer said, was not Jewish.  During the summer, Camp Max Straus serves a primarily non-Jewish population of low-income and disadvantaged youths through Jewish Big Brothers/Big Sisters.
During the holiday season, the organiztion runs a Chanuka Camp."

http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/former_jewish_camp_staffer_worked_closely_with_james_holmes_20120722/

Oh, and by the way, you people are ignorant of what that organization is. Holmes was ONLY a counselor, for the summer. Not a Big Brother. He had 10 kids in his charge. Jewish Big Brothers (and Sisters) have ONE child as their ONGOING charge. How can you people not know this about BB/BS in general??

Between you and that clown Jewriosity, I'm starting to actually think that Jelly is one of the more level-headed posters here. Pardon me while I go puke.

Now, go and show me where "counselors must be jewish." Should I go for an ice-climbing expedition in Hell while I wait?
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 02:04:26 PM
Amazing how an event such as this brings certain people back to the forum, mainly saying "no it wasn't jews" and "you guys are all nutcases".

How much more of this can our country take before people recognize the problem?  the same problem recognized by many countries since the beginning of history.

Are you referring to me? Because if you are, I overestimated your intelligence. Not only am I not saying "it wasn't the jews," I'm saying it's ALL about the jews (well-as the root cause of most of this dystopia, if not every single actor involved). On a grander scale than "this here lone-nut jew," or "that-there lone-nut jew." THAT is what is distracting from the real issue.

I started out trying to discuss the bigger issues behind Holmes's mindset and actions, and all you idiots want to debate is the color of his hair or whether he had part of his dick cut off? If we don't start discussing what is the intrinsic conspiracy here and motivate to do something about it, then I will you leave all of you self-congratulating geniuses[sic] to your insipid bantering about how much of the odd asshole's DNA is comprised of Talmudic filth.

Again, pardon me for overestimating your switched-on-ness.
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 02:06:47 PM
How I do miss the days of the more sophisticated level of anti-Semitism and Jew hatred that people like you used to bring to the table, dom.

Thanks for the compliment, but you and I will only ever come together in insipid situations such as this, where we are merely trying to correct factual errors that any other half-brain could understand.

It's too bad some of these clowns weren't around for the days when I used to regularly kick your ass. LOL
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Post by: OldTimes on July 23, 2012, 02:15:23 PM
Are you referring to me? Because if you are, I overestimated your intelligence. Not only am I not saying "it wasn't the jews," I'm saying it's ALL about the jews (well-as the root cause of most of this dystopia, if not every single actor involved). On a grander scale than "this here lone-nut jew," or "that-there lone-nut jew." THAT is what is distracting from the real issue.

I wasn't referring specifically to you, but I am hearing the "you guys are all idiots" from you as soon as you pop back in here, and if you agree he is jewish a motive has to be explored.

I agree the orange hair and circumcision are just indicators and prove nothing.  These are fast-becoming the means of distraction & thread-hijack on this thread.  So lets move on.

There's obviously gun-grab propaganda coming out of our media, the reason being they'd like to pull off another Bolshevik-style population massacre in our country.  Even if this seems far-fetched to the average mall/movie goer, those who are awake and seeing the police state materializing around us should not ignore this possibility.  There are camps and detention facilities going up all over, increasingly tyrranical taxation & enforcement, and the PTB want our guns.  The perpetrator is yet another jew and that is relevant!

It's also no coincidence this thread gets hit and the message gets lost.
Truth always suffers, but usually survives.
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
What if the killings are retaliations for dead jews. They repeatedly stated throughout the past that they live by an attitude of "if one of us dies ,ten of yours die".
Perhaps there is a connection between trayvon or with the recent bus bombing of israeli kids.
It might be interesting to search for jewish casualties predating mass shootings in the US.
Are you honestly saying that because a bus was bombed in Bulgaria, a psychopathic whack-job here in the USA shot up a theater?

And I love this idiocy about the shoot-up being a ploy to coverup Bibi Nuttyahoo's "heart-wrenching" appeal for us to do something about Iran. In fact, I think it's quite the opposite, and thankfully so. This Batmovie catastrophe (or should I say, Batshit-Crazy catastrophe) has totally stolen his thunder.

In whatever too-small way, it has galvanized Americans somewhat again. And maybe, just maybe, more of us will be willing to explore the underlying Talmudic evil behind why something like this happened. I don't think it's a distraction, personally. But that's just my opinion. I think it's one of those chinks in the armor of the jewish stranglehold that just might make it more likely for the populace to be willing to tell the Talmudic teat-suckers, "You know, we really just don't give a fuck about you and your incessant whining. Fuck off and stop bleeding us dry, parasites." That's the way I see it, anyway.
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Post by: gelignite on July 23, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
It's too bad some of these clowns weren't around for the days when I used to regularly kick your ass.

I do miss the old days.

I don't recall ever getting my ass kicked by you (or anyone else), however. Perhaps you could refresh my memory.

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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 02:36:58 PM

There's obviously gun-grab propaganda coming out of our media, the reason being they'd like to pull off another Bolshevik-style population massacre in our country.  Even if this seems far-fetched to the average mall/movie goer, those who are awake and seeing the police state materializing around us should not ignore this possibility.  There are camps and detention facilities going up all over, increasingly tyrranical taxation & enforcement, and the PTB want our guns.  The perpetrator is yet another jew and that is relevant!


Well, now we are getting somewhere. The gun-grabbers' motives are pretty obvious. But where I think you guys go off the reservation is ASSUMING that James Holmes is some kind of plant or tool of the aforementioned. Perhaps he is. Same as, perhaps, he's Jewish, but everything I've read points in other directions, and personally, I don't think he is - but I happen to think it's irrelevant in any event when contrasted with - what I keep saying - is the BIGGER PICTURE of jewish corruption and control. This kid didn't JUST become this way because of any Yiddish garbage in his blood. He got this way, much more, because of Yiddish INFLUENCE.  How hard is this to understand?

Whether he's a jew or gentile or freaking crocodile, the crime he committed still impacts the American psyche in the same way. And it STILL all leads back to the heebs and their influence in media and so on, that has promoted our culture of violence. Maybe I'm thinking too far outside the box for you guys because it's always the knee-jerk "He's a jew! The jew did it!" but I'm saying no, behind it all, the "JEWS(PLURAL)" did it. Get it?

And if you're honestly using the "red hair" argument to nail him as a jew, then frankly, you ARE an idiot. Because not only was it colored red - and very fakely so - in comparison to his previous pictures, I'm going to give you the newsflash now that you may have never heard, which is that the IRISH - FOR ONE - have a lot of redheads.

If this is the intelligence quotient that qualifies for respected postings here, I've got to re-think whether I should just have LoneWolf delete my entire account. Because you fools don't deserve to ever go back and read my previous posts.
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Post by: gelignite on July 23, 2012, 02:38:01 PM
See, this exactly the kind of disinfo BS I am talking about. Holmes is "obviously Jewish" for having red hair? Surely you're pulling our legs...

Jacob is being completely serious. And he is one of the most prolific (if not highly-regarded) posters on this forum.


This actually surprises you?
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Post by: gelignite on July 23, 2012, 02:44:21 PM
If this is the intelligence quotient that qualifies for respected postings here, I've got to re-think whether I should just have LoneWolf delete my entire account. Because you fools don't deserve to ever go back and read my previous posts.

It's funny. You actually believe that you've got more on the ball than anyone else.

Tell me, dom. What is the fundamental difference between saying that "this Jew did it" and "all Jews did it"?


Your head may be closer to the waterline than most others, but you're still drowning, I think.
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 02:47:58 PM
Jacob is being completely serious. And he is one of the most prolific (if not highly-regarded) posters on this forum.

It's as bad as his photoshopped pics of Yids with their hooknoses enlarged by 50%, just to make the point. Why even post up a website (if he still even has it), when probably half of your content is compromised? Oh...I think I know why...

He did have some great research, and I would have liked to send folks there for particular articles, but once they would start to look around there's no WAY they could take even the truthful stuff seriously.
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Post by: dominique on July 23, 2012, 02:49:34 PM
"It's funny. You actually believe that you've got more on the ball than anyone else."

Hell no. There's a few bright bulbs that have me beat.

Not you, unfortunately. :)
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Post by: gelignite on July 23, 2012, 02:50:42 PM
And maybe, just maybe, more of us will be willing to explore the underlying Talmudic evil behind why something like this happened.

Pray tell, exactly what role did "Talmudic evil" play in this horrific event. Kindly delineate precisely how it was "all Jews" who did the deed, such that the good people may finally rouse from their stupor.
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Post by: gelignite on July 23, 2012, 02:54:10 PM
"It's funny. You actually believe that you've got more on the ball than anyone else."

Hell no. There's a few bright bulbs that have me beat.

I don't see how you've got Jacob or anyone else beat... how there's any fundamental difference between you and them.
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 23, 2012, 03:42:50 PM
Meaningless. Most males in the U.S. are circumcised.
camouflage
this way they don't stand out
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 23, 2012, 03:47:46 PM
Why does everyone always assume the guy is Jewish just because he's smart, nuts, and violent?  ;D

He's some sort of Brit descent from the Mayflower folks. And a Lutheran.
He uses a porn site to advertise the fact that he is circumcised - a message - to whom?
clearly he is stating that he is jewish because this is important to him, important enough to post.
How many other men on that site say that? how common is it? my guess is not very common to bring that up.
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 23, 2012, 03:49:03 PM
Mamzer lol  ;D Is that guy in the lower left the killer in norway or sweden?
Norway Hans Brevik
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Post by: Vidarr on July 23, 2012, 03:49:38 PM

Whether he's a jew or gentile or freaking crocodile, the crime he committed still impacts the American psyche in the same way. And it STILL all leads back to the heebs and their influence in media and so on, that has promoted our culture of violence. Maybe I'm thinking too far outside the box for you guys because it's always the knee-jerk "He's a jew! The jew did it!" but I'm saying no, behind it all, the "JEWS(PLURAL)" did it. Get it?

Well the obvious thing that you don't seem to get is that we are aware that the JEWS(plural) did it. Just because we don't feel the need to state the obvious nor repeat ourselves with discussions done many times over as we obviously don't need to convince ourselves. It is yet still vital to ascertain the jewishness of the perp to bolster that claim of overall jewish responsibility.  To assume we are N00bs in these fields only indicates you suffer from some sort of misplaced feeling of narcistic grandiosity.

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Are you honestly saying that because a bus was bombed in Bulgaria, a psychopathic whack-job here in the USA shot up a theater?
If you want to find the cause of a problem it might be wise to explore all possibilities.

Now since we all know that the Israeli's have extorted the US for protection by threats of causing trouble.
It is also common knowledge that threats are to be enforced to remind those you extort that you mean business, especially when they start slacking. No better way to get people back in line then a subtle reminder.


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And if you're honestly using the "red hair" argument to nail him as a jew, then frankly, you ARE an idiot. Because not only was it colored red - and very fakely so - in comparison to his previous pictures, I'm going to give you the newsflash now that you may have never heard, which is that the IRISH - FOR ONE - have a lot of redheads

Actually the ( black) irish have migrated from spain , they might as well be heebs that fled the inquisition.Which would explain red hair common among both irish and jews. Then again Holmes hair is painted orange not red.
Now who likes orange jews

(http://cdn.lolzbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Orange-Jews.jpg)

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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 23, 2012, 04:01:44 PM
I hear rumors that people here are agents of
I.R.I.S.: Information Regarding Israel's Security
www.iris.org.il/

So flood away if its protecting your bloodline.
I've seen worse zogbots in Potok's Aryan Nations front, lady.
 
had to happen sometime
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 23, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
What if the killings are retaliations for dead jews. They repeatedly stated throughout the past that they live by an attitude of "if one of us dies ,ten of yours die".
Perhaps there is a connection between trayvon or with the recent bus bombing of israeli kids.
It might be interesting to search for jewish casualties predating mass shootings in the US.
I believe this thread of logic runs through his motives
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 23, 2012, 05:28:49 PM
Red-hair Joker: Colorado shooter James Holmes' first court appearance

Published: 23 July, 2012, 18:06
Edited: 23 July, 2012, 22:29
source: http://rt.com/usa/news/death-petalty-batman-shooting-857/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/death-petalty-batman-shooting-857/)

(http://rt.com/files/usa/news/death-petalty-batman-shooting-857/first-suspect-appearance-colorado.n.jpg)
Colorado shooting suspect James Eagan Holmes makes his first court appearance in Aurora, Colorado, July 23, 2012 (Reuters / Pool New)

The man accused of killing 12 in a movie theater in Aurora could face the death penalty, a Colorado prosecutor says.


James Holmes, 24, made his first court appearance Monday morning in a Colorado courtroom. Police and prosecutors accuse him of killing 12 and injuring 58 in a shooting rampage during the premiere of the latest Batman film, “The Dark Knight Rises,” in Aurora, CO Friday morning.

Police say Holmes has refused to cooperate with investigators. Monday morning he appeared before a judge with his attorney and was caught on film in public for the first time since the atrocities occurred three days earlier. Holmes sat quietly in prison garb before the judge and remained silent during a brief hearing. The court concluded with the decision that Holmes will be formally charged one week later on July 30. He is expected to remain locked up at the Arapahoe Detention Center until his next court date.

During his short court appearance, Holmes showcased a dyed red hairdo, an allusion some have suggested to the Joker character from the Batman series. According to authorities, Holmes told the police that he was the Joker once detained after the Friday morning massacre.

Sources within the facility tell the New York Daily News that Holmes has not shown any remorse since being booked last week and "thinks he's acting in a movie."

"He was spitting at the door and spitting at the guards," a just-released inmate added to the Post. "He’s spitting at everything. Dude was acting crazy."

During Monday's appearance, Holmes also appeared noticeably drowsy, perhaps even sedated, as he sat quietly in the courtroom. It has been suggested that attorneys for Holmes may use an insanity plea in order to spare their client from a capital punishment sentence if convicted for the theatre shooting crimes.]

Following Monday's appearance, District Attorney Carol Chambers told reporters that Holmes is not expected to be targeted with domestic terrorism charges. The DA also added that prosecutors are seeking input from victims of the Aurora shooting to make a decision on whether or not they should request the death penalty for Mr. Holmes. According to the DA, this decision will impact the lives of those involved in the case for years to come.

On Saturday, police scoured Holmes’ apartment and found a number of Batman-related items, including a mask and a poster. They also found ammunition and removed booby traps. Investigators believe that opening the door would have set off an explosive device, possibly leading to more casualties in the residential complex.

Holmes would face mandatory life in prison if the district attorney decides not to seek the death penalty.

(http://rt.com/files/usa/news/death-petalty-batman-shooting-857/colorado-shooting-suspect-james.jpg)
Colorado shooting suspect James Eagan Holmes (L) sits with public defender Tamara Brady during his first court
appearance in Aurora, Colorado, July 23, 2012 (Reuters / Pool New)


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(Reuters / Pool New)

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LW - Looks like he's getting his meds. This fellow does NOT look like the adultfriendfinder pic.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 23, 2012, 05:45:00 PM
Note to LoneWolf and SushiGirl:

The above exchange with Jewryosity is exactly the reason I rarely even read this board, let alone post. I can't even discuss anything other than whether so-and-so is a jew, and too many people here are either so paranoid-delusional they can't see anything without sticking a jew label on it somewhere, instead of looking at the big picture of the jewish conspiracy - or they're flat-out shills and plants. This one is even calling me jewish, LOL.

I fully agree that labeling everything and everyone as a jew is counterproductive without provable facts. I've railed against that sort of behavior many times but to no effect. I usually stay out of this sort of discusion since, as I said from the get go, the whole affair is a distraction from far more pressing issues. However since hews are very much in control of things it would not be wise to ignore the jew connection.

If indeed you are so far ahead of the curve on jewry then it seems to me that it behooves you to enlighten our readers and members.

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No wonder Proemio, the best poster this board ever had, doesn't post here anymore, and there are few left who are worth a damn (yourself, Laconas, OldTimes and Ajax are about it, that I can think of). It's become a fucking three-ring circus.

Joe and I have tried to track him down through the years but he does not return our queries as to what he's up to. He had a site but it showed no activity so God knows what happened to him. His last post was way back on February 08, 2008. That's more than five years ago. I don't recall his leaving for any particular reason so you are making a presumption that he left because of any particular reason. I always enjoyed his stuff. I guess all the 'good' posters have found new homes and are now miles ahead of the rest of us. Funny thing though... I do a lot of research and never run into them elsewhere.

The problem I see is that it is a one-ring circus and try as I might no one is stepping up to the plate to expand it into a proper three ring circus.  :(

I don't see how leaving the place is a solution to that problem or cause to fault those of us still trying to get the truth out and discuss solutions. I suppose I could go down the street and picket the local jew grocery guy and end up sitting in a cell for 3 years as did Brendon O'Connell.
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Post by: Vidarr on July 24, 2012, 01:50:28 AM
This might come in handy when confronted with gungrabbers

(http://i.imgur.com/6HqFb.jpg)
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Post by: curiousity on July 24, 2012, 02:33:37 AM
Theater patron says there was more than one-

http://www.youtube.com/v/4_2DqSqUCbU
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Post by: Vidarr on July 24, 2012, 03:28:56 AM
Theater patron says there was more than one-

http://www.youtube.com/v/4_2DqSqUCbU

sounds like some creative audio editing.

guy talks about "he" then at 0:46 he's suddenly talking about "she".

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Post by: curiousity on July 24, 2012, 03:47:51 AM
sounds like some creative audio editing.

guy talks about "he" then at 0:46 he's suddenly talking about "she".
Are you  f**kin  nuts? What the f**k are you talking abot?
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Post by: Vidarr on July 24, 2012, 04:54:58 AM
Are you  f**kin  nuts? What the f**k are you talking abot?
did you actually listen to it ?

" -he was propping the door open with his foot and he was asked if.. it looked like she was directing somebody to come towards his direction.. "

two different parts of the story stitched together. 
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 24, 2012, 06:59:30 AM
"I fully agree that labeling everything and everyone as a jew..."

I've always complained about that on this place, as well as other things like the overabundance of boards, and confusingly and poorly named boards, too many sticky threads, can't edit, not so easy to find my own (brilliant) posts, and I forget what else.  My gripes and complaints are still up on the Gripe & Complaint board or whatever it's called most likely.

RRBum
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Post by: jacob gold on July 24, 2012, 07:23:46 AM
Amazing how an event such as this brings certain people back to the forum, mainly saying "no it wasn't jews" and "you guys are all nutcases".



Lots of panic in the air
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Post by: jacob gold on July 24, 2012, 07:32:26 AM
Jacob is being completely serious. And he is one of the most prolific (if not highly-regarded) posters on this forum.


This actually surprises you?

Red hair, and circumscion, (which proves nothing)  is a zio-technique of distraction.
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 24, 2012, 07:35:07 AM
Amazing how an event such as this brings certain people back to the forum, mainly saying "no it wasn't jews" and "you guys are all nutcases".

___________________


I don't know if this orange haired mass murderer is a talmudist or not, but when you accuse everyone and his mother of being a zhid it kind of dilutes the impact of new accusations.  Seems like there are plenty of inconsistincies popping up though, like why did the maniac elaborately booby trap his apartment and then warn the cops that it was booby trapped?
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 24, 2012, 07:49:07 AM
I think we should focus less on the alleged shooter and consider that the whole 'event' was orchestrated from the get go.

Warner Bros insisted theaters show the trailer for Gangster Squad prior to the Batman movie. Check out the ending scene in that trailer (if you can find it). It is available on Pirate Bay where I got a copy.
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Post by: jools on July 24, 2012, 07:56:08 AM
Red hair, and circumscion, (which proves nothing)  is a zio-technique of distraction.

And curly hair, typical kike feature.
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Post by: jacob gold on July 24, 2012, 08:06:11 AM
What is the big picture?

It's the slaughter in the mideast (zio oil grab), and the American immigration issue, the banks collapsing, the housing collapse, the coming False Flag attacks and world economic implosion.

But, how do you explain to everyday people that there are 'monsters' out there. Rev Jacob Judicial did a web-page on 200 Arabs killed at a family market and he got 1000 hits, and the page died. Now an article on Madoff got 25,000 hits and live forever. The Columbine expose got 500,000 hits. Look at Josef Fritzel, or Jack the Ripper - those webpages will go into eternity.

I initially figured it as a lone nut or a gun grab psych op.
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Post by: jacob gold on July 24, 2012, 08:13:09 AM
I think we should focus less on the alleged shooter and consider that the whole 'event' was orchestrated from the get go.

 

This event is about gun control. The technique of using churches, malls, schools, theaters is a pyscholigical mind stressor making your daily routine worrisome.

That's why Zios blow up Arab Mosques, weddings, and marketplaces - no military target, but mentally devastates the population.
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Post by: Vidarr on July 24, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
I think we should focus less on the alleged shooter and consider that the whole 'event' was orchestrated from the get go.

Warner Bros insisted theaters show the trailer for Gangster Squad prior to the Batman movie. Check out the ending scene in that trailer (if you can find it). It is available on Pirate Bay where I got a copy.
http://www.youtube.com/v/YGK0ysEPHxI
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Post by: FrankDialogue on July 24, 2012, 09:49:56 AM
I think we should focus less on the alleged shooter and consider that the whole 'event' was orchestrated from the get go.

Warner Bros insisted theaters show the trailer for Gangster Squad prior to the Batman movie. Check out the ending scene in that trailer (if you can find it). It is available on Pirate Bay where I got a copy.
Is this the trailer that depicts a mass murder?

Excuse my ignorance as I am not glued to the computer nowadays...

However, the idea of using murder as a 'promotion' for a film represents an all time nadir in AmerKan Kulture...But considering a number of events I have. witnessed in the past year, the future looks grim, as mental retardation and psychopathy are rampant.

AmerKa has gone into spiritual bankruptcy.
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 10:09:54 AM
LW - Looks like he's getting his meds. This fellow does NOT look like the adultfriendfinder pic.

Re: the meds: I've had trouble trying to figure out if it is one, two, or all of the following that caused his weird behavior:

1. His obvious mental illness.
2. Medication he may be on. Please note that it is a HUGE breach of professional code and of the law to medicate prisoners BEYOND any meds that they are ALREADY supposed to be taking. However, if he was really as unruly and strange as your posted article would indicate (and I already read all that and MORE in the original NY Daily News article), they do have the authorization to restrain him and shoot him up with anti-psychotics or benzos like Ativan, etc.
3. More than likely, regardless of the other two factors, he is incredibly sleep-deprived after 3 plus days in jail, which is a notoriously noisy place to be and especially in his case, where the prisoners all wanted to kill him as stated on record in the original NY Daily News article by some of the released inmates they interviewed.

Now the Daily News is known for being a sensationalist rag, but like the National Enquirer, they often do get and post legitimate info before anyone else, or that nobody else is willing to post. (Why do you think it was that it was the Enquirer that got hit with that post 9/11 anthrax attack, to the point that at least one died and they had to evacuate their building, have it closed up forever, and forfeit some of their most valuable kitty in history, like the most expensive photo ever taken, that of Elvis in his casket? But I digress.)

Now, on to the issue of whether or not this guy in court is the same as the "Adult Friend Finder" pic. You do realize there is more than one of those pics? There is another pic from that site that absolutely is chilling. I will have to look for it, because it was relatively obscure compared to the other one we kept seeing, but when you see it, you'll know what I mean.

As to whether or not this is James Holmes, I would like to explain something to you about the connection between this crazed out fake redhead and the 18-year-old kid that we saw in the first video that came out of him, that of him at a science conference talking about "temporal illusions."

The issue here, is the eyes. In both videos, you will notice some of the same strange behavior, the rolling, the widening, etc. As someone who has gained an education in mental health and has a parent who is a retired psych nurse (and no, we're not jewish) with whom I discuss these things, let me tell you that this behavior is a sign of brain dysfunction or disease. This specific sign is linked to the schizophrenia that I already suspect him of, but also to brain tumors, epilepsy, dementia, etc. It's a sign of the misfirings of the neurons, which in the case of the eyes, are more directly wired than the rest of the anatomy.

The other thing I have noticed in the courtroom photo and every single pic of him that I have seen, is that his pupils are absolutely huge. This is also a sign of one or both of the following: psychosis, or certain heavy medications. The only photo that differs somewhat is the mugshot that was just released, but once you factor in the extreme brightness of the lighting and flash that are used to take those photos, his pupils should have been absolute pinpoints.
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 10:27:15 AM
why did the maniac elaborately booby trap his apartment and then warn the cops that it was booby trapped?

Personally, I think it is because he got caught way before he was expecting to (if at all), and didn't want to make his criminal charges any worse.

Why he booby-trapped it in the first place is obvious: Diversionary tactic. What was supposed to happen is that after his loud music went off on a timer, he was expecting that some neighbor would go barge in asking him to turn it down, or they would call the cops who would do the same. Then an explosion would ensue that would destroy the entire building, and that sould bring in every cop and first responder in a wide, wide area.

While all this is going on, he starts his ambush at the theater. No police or emergency personnel are available to come and apprehend him. Remember that it was discovered that he had 1000 rounds of ammo in his car (of the 6000 that he originally bought). That's enough to shoot up TEN theaters.

So then, Holmes takes off for the next venue while backups are being called from outlying areas just to respond to this second disaster. Another theater, a nightclub, a concert, who knows. He shoots up that location, rinse, repeat.

This could have gone on for quite awhile and it would taken forever for the law to catch up. They'd have to call in the national guard, reinforcements from places like the Air Force base and so on to fly in, the US marshals - it would have been absolute mayhem such as we've never seen since 9/11 at least. Not to mention, he probably had the remainder of those 6000 rounds stashed somewhere.

Personally, I believe he was planning to go on to be the most notorious lone-gunman murderer in history. We've all heard of serial killers and mass-murderers, but do you know of any "serial mass murderers"? (I'm not counting government and dictators.) I don't.

But his apartment bomb never deployed, and the rest is history. I do think he planned to get caught (based on his "Will you visit me in prison?" comment on his sex-website page), but I don't think he expected to be caught that soon.

If he had had help, it would have been to detonate that bomb as a distraction (which could have been done by setting up so that a gunshot through the window would detonate the charges, or a cellphone wired to the charges and then called remotely - even by Holmes himself - could have done it.

Anyway, this long-winded post is just to explain the oddness of Holmes informing the police of the booby trap. What's really unnerving to me, though, is realizing just how long this could have gone on. Using all 6000 rounds, he could have essentially killed more people than died in 9/11. Maybe that was his goal, for all we know.
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 10:45:17 AM
I fully agree that labeling everything and everyone as a jew is counterproductive without provable facts. I've railed against that sort of behavior many times but to no effect. I usually stay out of this sort of discusion since, as I said from the get go, the whole affair is a distraction from far more pressing issues. However since hews are very much in control of things it would not be wise to ignore the jew connection.

Oh, I am quite aware of the jews being in control. This event just goes to show how literally they are in control of our MINDS, which is what is the absolute scariest. An exceptionally bright, lonely, mentally unstable kid has been able to be brainwashed by violent films like Batman, online first-person-shooter video gaming into which he totally escaped, anti-psychotic drugs like Ritalin et al, the institutionalized educational field and porn and sexual perversion. This is a kid who from what we understand, came from a stable, upstanding, hardworking, successful, "All-American" family.

So how in god's name did this happen to him? THAT is what is key. When we unlock what is wrong with this kid and confirm what his motives where WITHOUT speculating, it will enable us to broadcast what we already pretty much know, to the general public. Actually, out of the mouths of babes (or sheep), one victim of the shooting is already pointing the finger in exactly the right direction with the first lawsuit to come out in this case: http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/24/james-holmes-lawsuit-shooting/

This guy is blaming the doctors, the meds (indirectly implicating BigPharma), Hollywood and its violent films, and theater chain that dared to broadcast these horrific flicks. On some level, he KNOWS what the problem is. He just doesn't see the common thread running between all three - but WE do.

Notice he isn't actually suing Holmes himself (at least, not yet). This Torrence Brown guy is the kind of guy that we need to educate. I expect he'll be written off as a whiner with a frivolous lawsuit, but if more victims step up to the plate with these kind of complaints, we've got a whole crop of people who are RIPE for the kind of thinking that goes on with the (serious) posters here.

What say you?


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Joe and I have tried to track him down through the years but he does not return our queries as to what he's up to. He had a site but it showed no activity so God knows what happened to him. His last post was way back on February 08, 2008. That's more than five years ago.

That is a shame. I'm glad you tried, anyway.

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I guess all the 'good' posters have found new homes and are now miles ahead of the rest of us. Funny thing though... I do a lot of research and never run into them elsewhere.

They've probably either been shut up or have gotten as disgusted with the online forum scene as I have.

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I suppose I could go down the street and picket the local jew grocery guy and end up sitting in a cell for 3 years as did Brendon O'Connell.

Is that what finally happened to him? I think I do remember hearing something about this. That is a damned shame. He was such a brilliant guy but like a lot of Aussies (and like Adolf Hitler), he just had WAY too much bravado and intellectual honesty that he openly broadcasted. Like Hitler, he just couldn't keep his cards close to his chest until the right moment, and let his ego get the best of him. Poor guy. Is there a (safe) way to contact him? I tried to save him from himself years ago, but he just wouldn't listen.
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 10:57:37 AM
By the way, I just read yesterday (I think it might have been in the Christian Science Monitor), about a professor going on the record about Holmes being a poor student during his summer session when he was 18, the one that we've seen him make the speech on videotape from.

What the prof said was very interesting. While he said that Holmes was well-behaved and a bright guy, Holmes "just wouldn't listen to him." Thought he "just didn't get it." Where have we heard comments like that before? About Tesla? Edison? Ford? Lindbergh? These are written off the "rebellious types," but that's because they are mavericks who are willing to think outside the box and knew what was REALLY going on.

Was Holmes one of these? Was he being deliberately poisoned (both physically and mentally) because of his unorthodox views that might have shaken up the educational and scientific fields and threaten a certain cult's control?

In his extreme brightness, did Holmes realize this, have a breakdown, and act out against this culture that poisoned him?

Remember John Nash, the subject of the book/movie "A Beautiful Mind"? The "game theory" guy who came down with the same paranoid schizophrenia that I believe James Holmes has?

This is why I want to get to the bottom of James' mental issues, motives, and actions. I think there's a LOT more to this story than just a guy who's nuts.
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 11:58:24 AM
Here's the picture of James (from Adult Friend Finder) that is absolutely chilling:

http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/JAMES-HOLMES-ADULT-FRIEND-FINDER.jpg

Now, beyond the fact that it's creepy enough that he photoshopped himself into a picture of a porn star or escort, look at the eyes. This is a very grainy picture, but if you take it into Photoshop and start dialing back the levels, you'll see that his pupils are enormous.

He also looks like hell, starting with the rings around his eyes, the glare, etc.
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 11:59:52 AM
James may have a broken up with a girlfriend, but was most certainly facing eviction per his school's terms (who owned the rental properties): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177294/James-Holmes-broke-girlfriend-just-Dark-Knight-Rises-shooting-spree-Colorado.html
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Post by: jacob gold on July 24, 2012, 12:09:47 PM
Josuha/James/Jonathan/Jonah at summer camp

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/22/article-2177294-1429FAB1000005DC-825_306x511.jpg)

Trolling for kids at the Moishe Green summer camp?
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 12:34:32 PM
Still trolling and diverting, Jake? I post a lot of interesting information, and this is all you can come up with?

Anyway, on to more serious aspects of this issue for those with a brain and real interest. I've been thinking more about the fact that James chose to act as the "Joker" while becoming the gunman that massacred so many.

Now this, to me, is significant. Because although we already know that the entire comic book industry is conceived, created, and run by jews, when it comes to the screen representations - in an industry where jews usually get the best parts - the Joker has NEVER been played by a jew. Only gentiles. Romero in the TV series, Nicholson and Ledger in the film versions. Romero I don't remember much about, but Nicholson has ALWAYS been typecast as either a villain or a nutcase, or both (at which he's admittedly good, but I tend to think the Jews pigeonholed this excellent actor on purpose). Then we have Ledger, who was brilliant in ANY role he played, but died so young from an "overdose."

Was Holmes sending a message by specifically picking the Joker as his persona, and then shooting up a theater showing a film that is the emblem of how twisted Hollywood is?

Now, I still think the guy is nuts, but I wonder how much of him is "crazy like a fox." He's not talking, but if he ever does, I'm dying (bad choice of words I suppose) to hear what he has to say.
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Post by: jacob gold on July 24, 2012, 12:57:23 PM
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Still trolling and diverting, Jake?


The focus should be on the killer, his motive, and the possibility of any accomplices. I doubt there was a second shooter, but we need to see his circle .... his internet presence. His Jewishness would relate to inbreeding and various psychosises. Next his relationship as a Sayanim. With Brevirik his love of Israel was a big factor, and with Gerald Laughtner it was probably genetics.

Your theory of James and the Joker personna is fascinating.
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 01:12:15 PM

The focus should be on the killer, his motive, and the possibility of any accomplices.

Well, that's what I'm "shooting" for. So why keep making this about a photo that you IMPLY is depicting a jew? I have yet to see you provide one iota of proof.

Although as I've said before, not that it really matters.

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Your theory of James and the Joker personna is fascinating.

Are you "joking," or serious?
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Post by: gelignite on July 24, 2012, 01:50:34 PM
When we unlock what is wrong with this kid and confirm what his motives where WITHOUT speculating, it will enable us to broadcast what we already pretty much know, to the general public.

Funny. You talk about the need to move forward without speculating, and then turn around and proceed with wild, unsupported speculation as to Holmes' motives, agenda, whathaveyou.

This is just like the old days.

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Is that what finally happened to [Brendon O'Connell]?

Yup. Pretty much as I called it in this thread:

http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=10400.msg86417#msg86417 (http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=10400.msg86417#msg86417)

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He was such a brilliant guy...

He was/is paranoid and delusional.

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...he just had WAY too much bravado and intellectual honesty...

He was is a lying coward who threatened and intimidated peaceful members of the community. He belongs in prison.

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Poor guy. Is there a (safe) way to contact him?

I sent him a soap-on-a-rope a few months back. Signed "gelignite", of course.


I'll see if I can find the address somewhere, if you like.
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 02:08:02 PM

He was/is paranoid and delusional.


Yes, I believe he is also a paranoid schizophrenic like Holmes.

That said, he's still a brilliant guy with most of the right answers.

Somehow, I doubt you really sent him a soap-on-a-rope.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 24, 2012, 03:28:28 PM

The focus should be on the killer, his motive, and the possibility of any accomplices. I doubt there was a second shooter, but we need to see his circle ....

Oh really? Why would you do that and reduce the idea of accomplices as a negligible (implied) possibility? Why? Would that upset your handlers?
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 24, 2012, 04:34:33 PM

(http://rt.com/files/usa/news/death-petalty-batman-shooting-857/first-suspect-appearance-colorado.n.jpg)
Class 'A' FAKE
Nothing wrong with him - he's faking this just like Hans Brevik
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 24, 2012, 04:40:14 PM

(http://rt.com/files/usa/news/death-petalty-batman-shooting-857/first-suspect-appearance-colorado.n.jpg)
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Following Monday's appearance, District Attorney Carol Chambers told reporters that Holmes is not expected to be targeted with domestic terrorism charges.
This also happened with the first World Trade Center bombing- NOT a terrorist act.
Why is this?
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 24, 2012, 04:42:48 PM
I think we should focus less on the alleged shooter and consider that the whole 'event' was orchestrated from the get go.

Warner Bros insisted theaters show the trailer for Gangster Squad prior to the Batman movie. Check out the ending scene in that trailer (if you can find it). It is available on Pirate Bay where I got a copy.

Gangster Squad - guess what? a Shoot out in a movie theater and the killing innocent patrons.
Had to pull it for some reason...
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Post by: curiousity on July 24, 2012, 07:17:26 PM
Nope. No serpent seedline resemblence here.

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6065/jewfro.jpg)
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Post by: Vidarr on July 24, 2012, 07:19:20 PM
The wide open eyes and dilated pupils give a clear clue to what caused his possible psychosis.
using amphetamines like Ritalin can cause psychosis yet keep you concentrated enough to coordinate an assault.



 
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Post by: curiousity on July 24, 2012, 07:34:38 PM
It must have been some George Zimmerman choir boy amphetamines,
because he does not show any signs of leo frank-type jewish dna at all.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/698254/thumbs/o-JAMES-HOLMES-MUGSHOT-570.jpg)
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Post by: Vidarr on July 24, 2012, 07:44:19 PM
(http://imguol.com/2012/07/20/20jul2012---20jul2012---amiga-nao-identificada-de-robert-e-arlene-holmes-pais-de-james-holmes-suposto-atirador-de-massacre-em-cinema-de-aurora-colorado-eua-deixa-a-residencia-deles-em-san-1342824480163_956x500.jpg)
mom and dad
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 08:01:24 PM
The wide open eyes and dilated pupils give a clear clue to what caused his possible psychosis.
using amphetamines like Ritalin can cause psychosis yet keep you concentrated enough to coordinate an assault.

Adderall is another one that has those same effects. Seems to be a popular one to give the children these days.
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Post by: dominique on July 24, 2012, 08:06:51 PM
So now the jews are ramping up the damage control to fend off the attacks on Hollywood...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/killer-joe-matthew-mcconaughey-william-friedkin-violence-aurora-353506

"Well, it’s a lot longer answer than I can give you now, but I will just say that is, one thing that we shouldn’t be saying in society when something like that happens anymore, we shouldn’t be saying ‘unbelievable,'" the 42-year old actor[Matthew McConaughey - the only gentile in this interview- D] said. "It happens, and we don’t know the answer to it right now, but there’s definitely, people now more than ever, people can make a very murky line between reality and illusion.

"They can make a very murky line between the games that are played and civilization, without any thought of consequences at times," McConaughey continued. "And so, that’s a murky line and a dangerous line that we should consider somehow."

There was little to indicate that McConaughey believed movies should be muzzled; a national discussion is far different than censorship. However, his comments were far more measured than those of his director and screenwriter, who both found any notion that art can inspire violence ludicrous.

"I’m clearly on the side of the argument that say we simply reflect [violence in society]," Letts, a Pulitzer Prize winner for August: Osage County, said. "That crazy motherf----- [in Colorado] had an AR-47 and 6000 rounds of ammunition. Anybody who would point the finger at us and our little fried chicken movie, as opposed to the ability to buy 6000 rounds of ammunition, is out of their goddamn mind."

When told that conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh had blamed violent Batman movies for the massacre, Letts added, "There you go -- consider the source."

Friedkin, for his part, was even more vociferous in his rejection, wholesale, of the cinema's culpability.

"That’s an isolated act by a madman," the Oscar-winner (The French Connection) responded. "They asked him what his favorite movies were. You know what he answered? Star Wars and Dumb and Dumber. Now which one of those do you think caused him to go out with an automatic weapon and off a bunch of people? This guy was into Star Wars and Dumb and Dumber."

In fact, Friedkin didn't even buy James Holmes' red-haired, maniacal mutterings to police. That, the director said, was a cop-out.

"It didn’t matter that it was a Batman movie; he says he was The Joker, this is now an act so he can look insane," Friedkin posited. "He was not insane. He premeditated that. He bought 6000 rounds of ammunition, he was eligible to buy guns and ammo, he set it up, he booby trapped his room; there’s no insanity, other than to say anyone that kills someone in cold blood is insane at the moment. He should go to the gas chamber. This was premeditated. This wasn’t the work of an insane guy. And what he’s doing now, I believe, is feigning insanity, because I don’t think he wants to meet his maker at this point in his life."
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: curiousity on July 24, 2012, 08:12:18 PM
(http://imguol.com/2012/07/20/20jul2012---20jul2012---amiga-nao-identificada-de-robert-e-arlene-holmes-pais-de-james-holmes-suposto-atirador-de-massacre-em-cinema-de-aurora-colorado-eua-deixa-a-residencia-deles-em-san-1342824480163_956x500.jpg)
mom and dad

Who this? Elliot Spitzer and Candy Crowley?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 25, 2012, 06:59:25 AM
Oh really? Why would you do that and reduce the idea of accomplices as a negligible (implied) possibility? Why? Would that upset your handlers?

Columbine had a clique known as the 'Trench Coat Mafia' - 14 kids, and at least 6 were involved in the planning, and Klebold and Harris did the shooting. As far as the Aurora theater- it seems a little too involved for a single psycho.

At any rate Mr Lone Wolf, what is your opinion of the incident
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 25, 2012, 07:01:49 AM
Adderall is another one that has those same effects. 


George Zimmerman was also on Adderal (a substance 2 amphetimine)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Railroad Bum on July 25, 2012, 07:33:16 AM

George Zimmerman was also on Adderal (a substance 2 amphetimine)

Evidence?

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 25, 2012, 07:53:26 AM
Columbine had a clique known as the 'Trench Coat Mafia' - 14 kids, and at least 6 were involved in the planning, and Klebold and Harris did the shooting. As far as the Aurora theater- it seems a little too involved for a single psycho.

At any rate Mr Lone Wolf, what is your opinion of the incident

Tentatively, what I said at the very beginning. Staged.

Anomolies to the shifting 'official' story.

1) The emergency exit.
2) several eyewitnesses have already stated there was more than one shooter
3) the time frame presented... 12 dead and 58 wounded in under 3 minutes. No way one man can get off that many rounds in such a short time. His weapon jammed as well making that time frame even more suspicious
4) 20,000 dollars of military grade equipment. How does an unemployed student dig up that much cash?
5) the apartment... how does a psyche student rig an elaborate matrix of explosives when that is not his metier? And then tells the police the place is rigged...why?
6) shooter was masked (mask didn't fog up coming out of 77% humidity into an air conditioned environment)and in full swat gear yet he was identified and taken into custody within minutes.
7) 'victims' that sound a lot like actors and don't look like they're hurting at all.

I would recommend Charles Giulani's program recorded yesterday morning, July 24th at http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=Truth_Hertz (http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=Truth_Hertz)


Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Railroad Bum on July 25, 2012, 08:16:21 AM
How is James Holmes like Osama bin Booogyman?



Where is the real James Holmes now?

 

How does an unemployed med student come up with the money to acquire all of the sophisticated ballistics gear, weapons and ammunition, let alone the ability to booby-trap his apartment.  Where would his impersonator get that backing?

 

 

http://naturalsociety.com/batman-shooter-james-holmes-on-pharmaceutical-drugs/#ixzz21UW2S6g2

 
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 25, 2012, 09:03:37 AM
Quote
Tentatively, what I said at the very beginning. Staged.

It appears to fall on the lines of the Columbine, Norway, Port Arthur massacres .... Just too sophisticated. Nothing makes sense from the 'Fire Door' going undetected to the 100 round clip.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 25, 2012, 09:09:21 AM
Evidence?


Zimmerman was on substance-2 amphetamines

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medical-report-sheds-light-injuries-trayvon/story?id=16353532
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 25, 2012, 11:01:55 AM
You couldn't get a better and more compromised Yid site than this one. I thought some of you noobs were "pikers," but in retrospect, you're just a bunch of idiots.

With the aformentioned "brilliant" posts, I rest my ultimate case.

Good-on you Yidiots have found a gutter in which to trawl. Have at it.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Railroad Bum on July 25, 2012, 01:54:42 PM

Zimmerman was on substance-2 amphetamines

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medical-report-sheds-light-injuries-trayvon/story?id=16353532

Where does it say that in your link?

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 25, 2012, 03:34:42 PM

he chose a graduate school within 20 miles of Columbine.
He is from San Diego Calif and could have attended Univ. of California for grad school.
Movie theater is one place where large crowds are gathered if you want to do a mass killing.
Very similar to Columbine including trip wires and explosives
also Hans Brevik used explosives (don't know about the trip wires) and faked insanity
Lot of similarities
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 25, 2012, 03:44:12 PM
How is James Holmes like Osama bin Booogyman?

(http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23964.0;attach=1272;image)

(http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23964.0;attach=1274;image)

Where is the real James Holmes now?

 

How does an unemployed med student come up with the money to acquire all of the sophisticated ballistics gear, weapons and ammunition, let alone the ability to booby-trap his apartment.  Where would his impersonator get that backing?

 

 

http://naturalsociety.com/batman-shooter-james-holmes-on-pharmaceutical-drugs/#ixzz21UW2S6g2

Excellent point
The 'fake' Osama is the Real Osama from the 1980's.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 25, 2012, 03:53:28 PM
This Kike was 'Cranking' on speed when he shot the colored boy

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/News/gty_george_zimmerman_jef_120412_mn.jpg)






Where does it say that in your link?

The video says it

According to the report, prior to the shooting Zimmerman had been prescribed Adderall and Temazepam, medications that can cause side effects such as agitation and mood swings, but in fewer than 10 percent of patients. – ABC News Exclusive



Adderall, as an amphetamine  product, is used recreationally for its euphoric and stimulant properties.[48] Prescription amphetamines are often obtained by those with a prescription and diverted and sold to those who do not have a prescription.[49] As a Schedule II drug, Adderall is considered to have a high potential for misuse and a high liability for dependence.[50][51] Amphetamine has the potential to cause withdrawal (mainly psychological) symptoms when ceasing use.[52]


Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 25, 2012, 04:01:37 PM
(http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23964.0;attach=1274;image)
Is it possible that the real perp was quietly taken out the back to Guantanimo to be water boarded and this guy is a cop standing in for him for a fake trial?
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Post by: Vidarr on July 25, 2012, 09:45:41 PM
This Kike was 'Cranking' on speed when he shot the colored boy

Adderall, as an amphetamine  product, is used recreationally for its euphoric and stimulant properties.[48] Prescription amphetamines are often obtained by those with a prescription and diverted and sold to those who do not have a prescription.[49] As a Schedule II drug, Adderall is considered to have a high potential for misuse and a high liability for dependence.[50][51] Amphetamine has the potential to cause withdrawal (mainly psychological) symptoms when ceasing use.[52]
Wether or not he was 'cranking' depends on wether he has ADHD or not. normal people would go spongebob on amphetamines. But on people with ADHD ampethamines actually have a calming effect.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: OldTimes on July 25, 2012, 09:49:21 PM
George Costanza is using the Aurora shooting to call for gun control. (http://dustinstockton.com/2012/07/discussing-gun-control-with-george-costanza/)

(http://dustinstockton.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/seinfeld_george_240x260_052820041524.jpeg)

Quote
Recently Actor Jason Alexander, who is most famous as George Costanza on Seinfeld, like so many celebrities have been doing, tweeted about gun control in the wake of the tragedy in Colorado. He wrote,

    “I cannot understand support for legality of the kind of weapon in this massacre. It’s a military weapon. Why should it be in non-mil hands?”
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: curiousity on July 25, 2012, 10:49:19 PM
Mayor Bloomberg Says Cops Should Go On Strike Until Americans Give Up Their Guns
http://reason.com/blog/2012/07/24/mayor-bloomberg-says-cops-should-go-on-s
(http://media.reason.com/mc/_external/2012_07/13a5f25562641c56b8257bcc78baab9c.jpg)

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg told CNN's Piers Morgan last night that he doesn't "understand why police officers across this country don’t stand up collectively and say we’re going to go on strike, we’re not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what’s required to keep us safe."
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: curiousity on July 26, 2012, 01:00:21 AM
Shooter's US Military-Funded Psy-War Professor Mentors, distance themselves
from Holme's -

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57479689/james-holmes-reportedly-known-as-dolt-as-intern-calling-into-question-academic-credentials/
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HyyDHyAwI6k/TBWMRHTkUbI/AAAAAAAAJes/IZj5W6ur7rE/s1600/David+Eagleman.jpg)


(Former) Isreali Army/Neuro-PsyOps Professor at Baylor, David Eagleman,
has a neuroscience lab called
"The Eagleman lab", on the ground floor of Baylor’s Ben Taub General Hospital,  
could be the lair of a precocious but highly distractible teen-ager.
The doors are pinned with cartoons,

(One of the reported cartoons on The Eagleman lab walls):
(http://randomcartoon.s3.amazonaws.com/127127.JPG)
http://strokerevelations.com/david-eagleman-and-mysteries-of-the-brain-the


the counters strewn with joysticks and other gizmos.


(Former) Isreali Army/Neuro-PsyOps Professor at Baylor,
and Holmes' Professor in Nuerology/Nuerolingistics, David Eagleman,
gets 100% of the funding for his "Eagleman lab",
From DARPA.

DARPA, the Pentagon’s way-out science arm, wants to make soldiers stronger, faster, and generally "kill proof." The key, the agency believes: Getting humans to act more like animals.

For years, DARPA has been pushing to boost soldier performance. Today, at the opening of DARPATech, the agency’s bi-annual conference, program manager Michael Callahan just announced a new effort to take that research even further. He calls it "Inner Armor."”—Wired Magazine, August 7 2007, Noah Shachtman

“Current computer-based target detection capabilities cannot process large volumes of imagery with the speed, flexibility, and precision of the human visual system. Investigations of visual neuroscience mechanisms indicate that human brains are capable of responding visually much more quickly than they respond physically. The vision for DARPA's Neurotechnology for Intelligence Analysts (NIA) program is to revolutionize how analysts handle intelligence imagery, increasing throughput of imagery to an analyst and overall accuracy of assessments.

NIA seeks to identify robust brain signals that can be recorded in an operational environment and process these in real-time to select images that merit further review. The program aims to apply these triage methods to static, broad area, and video imagery. Successful development of a neurobiologically based image triage system will increase speed and accuracy of image analysis where the number of acquired images is expected to rise significantly. Results of the NIA program will enable image analysts to train more effectively and process imagery with greater speed and precision.”


Maximum Mobility and Manipulation (M3) - DARPA
www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/DSO/Programs/Maximum_Mobility_and_Manipulation_(M3).aspx

Cognitive Technology Threat Warning System (CT2WS) - DARPA
www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/DSO/Programs/Cognitive_Technology_Threat_Warning_System_(CT2WS).aspx

Neurotechnology for Intelligence Analysts (NIA) - DARPA
www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/DSO/Programs/Neurotechnology_for_Intelligence_Analysts_(NIA).aspx

Training and Human Effectiveness - DARPA
www.darpa.mil/our_work/DSO/.../Training_and_Human_Effectiveness.aspx

Isreali Army/Neuro-PsyOps Professor David Eagleman said,
"Information gathered from US Army helmet sensors, would measure brain states associated with “anger,
aggression, fatigue, deception,” which would then be relayed to a command center.
During war, those working in the command center may choose how to deploy the soldiers based on their mental states.
 A focused soldier may be ordered to shoot, and a furious soldier may be asked to sit and calm down so as not to do anything careless.”
–NeuLaw Blog, Sept. 28 2011, Dr. David Eagleman

-Recently, military directed "terrorist drills" were being conducted near Aurora.

-(Former) Isreali Army/Neuro-PsyOps Professor at Baylor,
and Holmes' Professor in Nuerology/Nuerolingistics, David Eagleman,
was quoted on James Holmes, stating his jewish brother, "His' credentials were no better than an agerage student"

-(Former) Isreali Army/Neuro-PsyOps Professor at Baylor,
and Holmes' Professor in Nuerology/Nuerolingistics, David Eagleman, reportedly left the Isreali Army to become a screenplay writer and comedian in Hollywood. Then went on to head the Pentagon's Neurology Research Projects.

Title: Zimmerman was on Temazepam?
Post by: dominique on July 26, 2012, 02:48:40 AM
That's a benzo. It brings you down. So unless he suddenly went off it, you have no case, as usual, Skunk.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 26, 2012, 03:18:01 AM
"How is James Holmes like Osama bin Booogyman?"
That's a ridiculous comparison. He is smiling in one photo, stoned and deer-in-headlights in the next. Totally changes the landscape of that part of the face.

You ever watch, "Lie to Me?" You should. One of the greatest talmudvision shows ever. Which is why it got canceled after only three seasons. Tim Roth(who I have been trying forever to figure out if he's a jew based on his name of course, but have come up bupkas) was starting to give away too much, and they canned him, even though he was funding the series himself. The best episode I can remember was when he was tagging the sociopathic killer. That episode was brilliant, because the kid was so charming but at the same time, soooo creepy. Notice, I say, "sociopath." Because that's not what Holmes is. What Holmes is, is on a psychopathic break which predictably comes from fast onset of already-existing schizophrenia.

Now, I loathe most of the jew-spun definitions of disease, and believe that everyone is different and that the standard definition for "mental illness" is relative. For example, I think that ANYONE who would kill another (other than in defense) qualifies as "mentally ill," or in the legal vernacular, "insane." If but for a brief moment of passion. I also happen to think that gays are mentally ill, or at least mentally compromised. That's just my opinion.

However, when it comes to the exhibited behavior of James Holmes, he is clearly suffering from some (possibly dormant) mental illness, which may have been building during the last year, due to the trauma of a new environment and demanding class/work schedule. If it's paranoid schizophrenia, that kind of illness can lie dormant, or relatively dormant, for YEARS after its initial onset in the teens (which judging by that video of him as a teenager, he clearly had SOME kind of brain dysfunction).

All of that said, I keep questioning that "college ID" photo, because clearly, it doesn't fit with all of the rest of the photos and vids we've seen of Holmes, which DO all fit. UofC has been EXTREMELY opaque as far as providing any information. I'm sure they're scared to death of the ramifications, and I bet they are "lawyered up" all over the place. They may have even released a false ID photo just to tone down the blowback from what is sure to be an even greater destruction of their "enterprise" than what is happening to Penn State.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 26, 2012, 06:54:33 AM
Quote
Isreali Army/Neuro-PsyOps Professor at Baylor, and Holmes' Professor in Nuerology/Nuerolingistics, David Eagleman,
was quoted on James Holmes, stating his jewish brother, "His' credentials were no better than an agerage student"


I imagine the jews want this buried as soon as possible
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 26, 2012, 07:00:10 AM

How many bodyguards do these Zios have?

(http://media.reason.com/mc/_external/2012_07/13a5f25562641c56b8257bcc78baab9c.jpg)





(http://dustinstockton.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/seinfeld_george_240x260_052820041524.jpeg)




The police are their personal servants, and they are surrounded by body guards.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 26, 2012, 08:52:45 AM
"Isreali Army/Neuro-PsyOps Professor at Baylor, and Holmes' Professor in Nuerology/Nuerolingistics, David Eagleman,
was quoted on James Holmes, stating his jewish brother, "His' credentials were no better than an agerage student"

Really, Jake? From what source?

You are writing things like "Isreali [SIC] Army/Neuro-PsyOps," and "agerage," and you expect anybody to believe this?

You may have had your day in exposing the culprits, Skunk, but your day is now over. Go back to your kibbutz in Fawt Lawdadale.

And I colored your faux pas in MAROON for a reason, maroon.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 26, 2012, 09:03:15 AM
How many bodyguards do these Zios have?

The police are their personal servants, and they are surrounded by body guards.
What the fork does any of that have to do with the topic at hand?

Scrambling for diversion and damage control, eh, "Skunk"? It doesn't matter. Even us pacifists know where you live.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 26, 2012, 09:36:39 AM
CENTENNIAL, Colo. (AP) – James Holmes spent a year in a small neuroscience doctoral program, surrounded by scientists and roughly three dozen classmates  delving into the inner workings of the brain.

The University of Colorado, Denver, isn’t saying if they had any warning signs.

Experts say, however, the intimacy of the program and its focus on the brain may not have been enough for staff and students to detect that Holmes was on a course that police say ended with a deadly rampage at a midnight showing of the new Batman movie.

Supported by a prestigious federal grant, Holmes, 24, was in the first year of a program at the Anschutz Medical Campus dedicated to neuroscience, studying such topics as how the brain works or malfunctions or helping develop drugs to treat epilepsy and other disorders.

But it is not behavioral science or psychology, experts say.

David Eagleman, who runs the Initiative on Neuroscience and the Law at Baylor University, said some neuroscientists are experts in mental illnesses and aberrant behavior, but others spend most of their time studying molecular chemistry.

As an undergraduate at Rice, Eagleman wanted to be a writer, but his parents persuaded him to major in electrical engineering instead. “It was like chewing on autumn leaves,” he says. An extended sabbatical ensued. After his sophomore year, Eagleman joined the Israeli Army
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 26, 2012, 09:54:51 AM
David Eagleman, an Israeli, connects to James Holmes

(http://boniuk.rice.edu/uploadedImages/david%20eagleman.jpg)





Bingo

David Eagleman, who currently runs the Initiative on Neuroscience and the Law at Baylor University, said a widely circulated video of Holmes making a presentation at the institute  was misleading.



Holmes worked as a summer intern at the renowned Salk Institute for Biological Studies in La Jolla, Calif.,  John Jacobson, who Holmes listed as a mentor



There just maybe a conspiracy here
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 26, 2012, 11:31:24 AM
Wow. So there's an actual Jewish professor? In higher education? In the neurosciences, of all things?

God, but you are such a transparent twit.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: OldTimes on July 26, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
Wow. So there's an actual Jewish professor? In higher education? In the neurosciences, of all things?

God, but you are such a transparent twit.

dominique, I see a lot of posts from you and they are all antagonistic.  All the info presented is relevant, IMO, even if you believe the opinions concluded from them are incorrect.  Could you please perhaps help us get closer to the truth in a more constructive way?

It is very clear this is being used as another gun control event, and quite likely the whole thing was staged from the beginning.  Who are we to believe, the victims and what they are telling us (e.g. about 2nd shooters), or the media who have always been lying to us?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 26, 2012, 01:21:39 PM
dominique, I see a lot of posts from you and they are all antagonistic.  All the info presented is relevant, IMO, even if you believe the opinions concluded from them are incorrect.  Could you please perhaps help us get closer to the truth in a more constructive way?

I am very confused. Is ms dominic saying Holmes was white, and not jewish?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 26, 2012, 01:36:02 PM
I am very confused. Is ms dominic saying Holmes was white, and not jewish?

I don't know what her position is but it is becoming clear he is not Jewish. However it also doubtful that the official story will hold up under much more scrutiny and his part in this thing is not as cut and dry as we are being told.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 26, 2012, 02:19:38 PM
Jacob and Dominique..

 I assume your divorce counseling didn't work out that well..
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FrontierJustice on July 26, 2012, 03:07:08 PM
VNN Linder claims:
'Christ, he's just some white guy. That's all there is to it. He's not a weirdo, he's just a thin-skinned bitch with conventional views left or right. At most he's on some psych meds.'

In every major incidence of mass murder, terrorism, mutilation, child abuse, rape, financial fleecing, etc -- it is the Alex Linders, David Dukes, Alex Joneses, et al - those who have established 'pockets' and 'tenure' in the 'dissident community' - who are there to tell those who would question, that the perpetrators are of course not jews.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 26, 2012, 03:13:47 PM
Jacob and Dominique..

 I assume your divorce counseling didn't work out that well..


I could rock this forum at what it was like living with Dominique, but your tender ears and sensitive goyim constitutions aren't up to it.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on July 26, 2012, 03:19:37 PM
CENTENNIAL, Colo. (AP) – James Holmes spent a year in a small neuroscience doctoral program, surrounded by scientists and roughly three dozen classmates  delving into the inner workings of the brain.


Remember that patsy of Oklahoma City they knocked off, the Army guy.  He pulverized concrete rebar floors and and a whole steel column with fertilizer and diesel fuel in a van.

(There was a counter story of a mooselimb fuel enhance bomb with sophisticated timers like the trucks bombs in the middle east.  That quickly piddled out with Louis "Penn State Butt Holocaust" Freeh covering Waco. )

Someone traced him to some kind of brain science place.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 26, 2012, 03:23:49 PM
David Eagleman, an Israeli, connects to James Holmes

(http://boniuk.rice.edu/uploadedImages/david%20eagleman.jpg)





Bingo

David Eagleman, who currently runs the Initiative on Neuroscience and the Law at Baylor University, said a widely circulated video of Holmes making a presentation at the institute  was misleading.



Holmes worked as a summer intern at the renowned Salk Institute for Biological Studies in La Jolla, Calif.,  John Jacobson, who Holmes listed as a mentor



There just maybe a conspiracy here

Just look at the funding these kikes get.
no wonder they're able to make so much trouble
why not? I'm paying for it
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 26, 2012, 03:26:23 PM

I could rock this forum at what it was like living with Dominique, but your tender ears and sensitive goyim constitutions aren't up to it.
well she sure can post
entire novels
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 26, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
Hey mr bpocatch -

I prefer we didn't talk about Jorge Zimmerman, or James Holmes, or Sandusky, or Dr Earl Bradley. None of them were jewish.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on July 26, 2012, 03:48:26 PM
Hey mr bpocatch -

I prefer we didn't talk about Jorge Zimmerman, or James Holmes, or Sandusky, or Dr Earl Bradley. None of them were jewish.

Howza about Louis "Penn State Butt Holocaust Inspector" Freeh?

(http://blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/Oneill44.jpg)

Or Madge Albright?

Madeleine Albright finally went to the Zionist Jewish FBI Director, Louis Freeh, to remove John O'Neill from Yemen.

http://blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/Oneill.htm

Holmes is no doubt an Irish Catholic see the red hair?

Sandusky report: Penn State the institution was more important than individuals

The Louis Freeh report condemns Joe Paterno and others at Penn State for covering up allegations of sexual abuse against Jerry Sandusky. Why did thoughtful adults turn a blind eye? They likely let their devotion to the institution take precedence over the suffering of individuals.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2012/0712/Sandusky-report-Penn-State-the-institution-was-more-important-than-individuals

Louis Freeh needs to cover the Holmes case.  You anti-semites want a list of name of Sandusky's boys club sponsors don't you?

And in Aurora massacre you want Katie Couric to interview Holmes shrink and the guy that sold him the AR-15 and ammo huh?

Freeh will sort this you you hater.
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Post by: jacob gold on July 26, 2012, 03:59:17 PM
Neuroscientists James Jacobson and David Eagleman both worked at the Salk institute  and have recently appeared in the media and appear to be attempting to both discredit his intelligence and downplay their involvement with him. David Eagleman is of particular interest.

In 2006 at age 18, James Holmes spends 6 weeks as an intern at the Salk Institute  under the direct supervision of John Jacobson, whom he refers to in a video as “his mentor”

The Salk Institute of Biology is ranked as one of the world’s top biomedical research facilities and is described as “an isolated compound… not unlike monasteries for religious discovery” and “A temple of science; a secular monastery where man pursues knowledge of our biological foundations.”

Holmes states in a video:
“Over the course of the summer I’ve been working on a temporal illusion—an illusion that allows you to change the past…he [Jacobson] also studies subjective experience, which is what takes place inside the mind as opposed to the external world. I’ve carried on his work in dealing with subjective experience”

Who is Jacobson?

In 2004 John Jacobson co-authors a paper with David Eagleman at the Salk Institute  on temporal illusions “Perceived Luminance Depends on Temporal Context” –NATURE journal

Eagleman as it turns out, is an extremely interesting character: after serving in the Israeli Army, he becomes interested in neuroscience after taking a neurolinguistics class at Rice University. After obtaining a degree in literature, he goes on to earn his Ph.D. in neuroscience at Baylor University. He then takes a post-doctoral position at the Salk Institute of Biology under Francis Crick, co-discoverer of the DNA molecule. In 2009 Eagleman writes “Sum: 40 Tales of the Afterlife” a bizarre book of fictional philosophy

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Post by: curiousity on July 26, 2012, 09:53:34 PM
So what with the mossad facination with false flags involving orange jew-fros lately?

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5297/orangejewfrofalseflags.jpg)


And when are these apes gonna throw in their 2 cents?
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8830/beastlybulldykemonsters.jpg)
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Post by: gelignite on July 26, 2012, 10:05:54 PM
In every major incidence of mass murder, terrorism, mutilation, child abuse, rape, financial fleecing, etc -- it is the Alex Linders, David Dukes, Alex Joneses, et al.... who are there to tell those who would question, that the perpetrators are of course not jews.

Well... most of the time they aren't.

In this case, certainly not.
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Post by: BlackVeil on July 26, 2012, 10:36:56 PM
Neuroscientists James Jacobson and David Eagleman both worked at the Salk institute  and have recently appeared in the media and appear to be attempting to both discredit his intelligence and downplay their involvement with him. David Eagleman is of particular interest.

In 2006 at age 18, James Holmes spends 6 weeks as an intern at the Salk Institute  under the direct supervision of John Jacobson, whom he refers to in a video as “his mentor”

The Salk Institute of Biology is ranked as one of the world’s top biomedical research facilities and is described as “an isolated compound… not unlike monasteries for religious discovery” and “A temple of science; a secular monastery where man pursues knowledge of our biological foundations.”

Holmes states in a video:
“Over the course of the summer I’ve been working on a temporal illusion—an illusion that allows you to change the past…he [Jacobson] also studies subjective experience, which is what takes place inside the mind as opposed to the external world. I’ve carried on his work in dealing with subjective experience”

....


Very, very weird. There was a reference on the "Twilight Language" blog, suggesting that Holmes may have been part of a neuro-science experiment, which went much further than he had calculated for.

The angle which I find interesting in this case is the Universities and research institutes - from the start, I thought they were linked in to Holmes and his activities. I also think they will be engaged in a very effective cover up. On Twilight Language, it is already reported that details in the press about the students who shared Holmes special on campus accommodation have been scrubbed. And now this:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gm_CzBrURnJpOgPSeiN2VZQphaHw?docId=CNG.1f807f4364f819bcef1fc95b6f0b9e5f.1b1

Alleged Batman shooter's school records withheld
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Post by: curiousity on July 26, 2012, 10:39:35 PM
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4328/cointelprospike.jpg)

Why now?
Were you guys expecting every Earl Bradley and Jerry Sandusky ape clone, was going
to legally be able to do body cavity searches on white toddlers patroning those Sumner Redstone
perv flick projection halls, if the mass public  believes the shooter is not a psycotic inbreded jew?
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Post by: OldTimes on July 26, 2012, 11:54:52 PM
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4328/cointelprospike.jpg)

heh, cute graphic.
But I think you're being a little unfair to Werewolf.

Instead, replace "Werewolf" with "curiousity", and it would be more accurate.  I'm looking at your recent posts (http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25687;area=showposts;start=0) and see that you took nearly a month haitus, and started posting again prolifically with aurora.  Don't be a hypocrite.

Anyway, we know who is behind this, but whether or not he himself is jewish could be a red herring.  The first picture we saw of Holmes definitely looks jewish.  I'm not so sure about this guy with orange hair sitting in the courtroom, he looks like a different person and he is obviously drugged up bigtime.  We should at least consider the possibility he could be a patsy/plant instead.
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Post by: curiousity on July 27, 2012, 02:45:50 AM
heh, cute graphic.
But I think you're being a little unfair to Werewolf.

Instead, replace "Werewolf" with "curiousity", and it would be more accurate.  I'm looking at your recent posts (http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25687;area=showposts;start=0) and see that you took nearly a month haitus, and started posting again prolifically with aurora.  Don't be a hypocrite.

Anyway, we know who is behind this, but whether or not he himself is jewish could be a red herring.  The first picture we saw of Holmes definitely looks jewish.  I'm not so sure about this guy with orange hair sitting in the courtroom, he looks like a different person and he is obviously drugged up bigtime.  We should at least consider the possibility he could be a patsy/plant instead.


 ;D Youre so funny ZogbotTimes! I'd add your zogbot name to the chart
but that would undermind your zogbot global moderator authority figure
status.

One good thing came out of the jew false flag attack.
Brenden O'connell was dead accurate about this joint being a zog false front.
Might as well go to VNN, because at least the jews running it,
show their faces.


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Post by: curiousity on July 27, 2012, 04:59:22 AM
John de Nugent calls James Holmes a jew-

(http://democratic-republicans.us/images/johndenugent.jpg)


http://www.democratic-republicans.us/english/launch-video-finale-part-one-of-two

=============THE MYSTERIOUS “JAMES HOLMES”

James Holmes studied for a PhD in neuroscience, was a counselor at a Jewish summer camp, “Camp Max Straus,” and had black curly hair. But they say he is not Jewish…..just “Irish”…. Well, the world has long been full of part-Jews: Lyndon Johnson and Franklin Roosevelt, to name the worst, Hillary Clinton, and many more: according to a recent book, the number of half-Jews is now equal to the number of full Jews! http://www.jewishpost.com/archives/news/meet-the-half-jews.html

See also this:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzz/HalfJews

….and this (not surprised that the often grotesque “South Park” was started by a half-Jew): http://half-jewish.net/famous-half-jewish-people/

This is a long (and maybe to some a surprising) list of full-and part-Jews, but you can ignore the leftist introductory paragraph and just skip to the list below, with the long full-Jews list on top and the half-Jew list one-third down:

http://vicvegaunleashed.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-never-ceases-to-amaze-me-how-many-so.html

One wit noted:

I think that people who call themselves “half-Jewish” are looking to get all of the credit and none of the blame:

“Gee, those Jews sure are smart and successful.”
“Well, you know, I’m half-JEWISH myself.” 

“Gee, those Jews are a bunch of stingy, greedy assholes.”
“Well, you know…. I’m only HALF-Jewish.” 

I might add:

“A lot of serial killers are Jews, like Holmes, Loughner and the Unabomber, David Berkovitz, the “Son of Sam,” and Stalin’s killers. They ran eight of the eleven death camps in the gulag.”

“Well, you know, I’m only HALF-Jewish.” 

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/colorado-shooter-was-camp-counselor-for-jewish-big-brothers-and-sisters/2012/07/21/

in high school….

(http://localtvkdvr.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/james-holmes.jpg)

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Post by: dominique on July 27, 2012, 05:53:21 AM

The angle which I find interesting in this case is the Universities and research institutes - from the start, I thought they were linked in to Holmes and his activities

So have I. I've been amazed at their opacity regarding disclosing any info about this guy. There was a time phase where that might have been appropriate - but that time is gone. I have family that were involved with the "Willow Grove" project - you remember that? They are convinced that he is either a willing (as was that "project") or unsuspecting subject of some serious mind-altering chemicals. He could have been experimenting on himself, solely, for all we know...but the university would accept all responsibility in any case.
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Post by: dominique on July 27, 2012, 05:59:51 AM
John de Nugent calls James Holmes a jew-


God. And now we KNOW that Jewriosity is off his left nut.

Of all the people, you had to post THAT? Do you not know that Jack and I are personal friends? He really gives two farts in a whirlwind about whether James is a jew. But he's gotta sell ad revenue, and he makes a real good living forking out crap to chumps like you.

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Post by: dominique on July 27, 2012, 06:07:12 AM
Jacob and Dominique..

 I assume your divorce counseling didn't work out that well..

Are you shitting me? Like I'd ever hook up with a yid with a sawed-off shooter.

Please. Get real.
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 27, 2012, 06:29:30 AM
John de Nugent calls James Holmes a jew-

__________________

I'd trust deNugent just as far as I could throw him.
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Post by: curiousity on July 27, 2012, 06:30:00 AM
God. And now we KNOW that Jewriosity is off his left nut.

Of all the people, you had to post THAT? Do you not know that Jack and I are personal friends? He really gives two farts in a whirlwind about whether James is a jew. But he's gotta sell ad revenue, and he makes a real good living forking out crap to chumps like you.
Did you mean goyim like me?

Is Jack the one with the yakuza body tattoo fetish?

Hey dominique-
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Q2PoXvmb7HI/TAEmtM9dDDI/AAAAAAAAAZg/PQlkIzlTbuo/s1600/good_on_ya_mate.jpg)
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Post by: curiousity on July 27, 2012, 06:35:05 AM
John de Nugent calls James Holmes a jew-

__________________

I'd trust deNugent just as far as I could throw him.

Maybe youre right. He does not
believe Donald Trump and Bill Gates are jews but thinks
James Holme is-
(http://i53.tinypic.com/s4wi04.jpg)

But he is comming around. Better late than never.
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Post by: dominique on July 27, 2012, 06:38:36 AM
Well... most of the time they aren't.

In this case, certainly not.

Once again, Gaia has split in two, and you and I actually agree on something.

No, James is not a jew. But what is significant, is that fact that jew-orchestrated predilections upon society turned him into such a psychopath.

He may or may not have been "under the influence" of some severe psychotropic and/or psychedelic meds, possibly through the college and either willingly or unwittingly;

What we DO know, is that Hollywood; first person shooter games; disconnection with reality; all had a hand in shaping this guy's mindset.

In short: What are witnessing is a beautiful thing. It is the ultimate uptake and outcome of "The Joker" and his spiel. Live to you, in living color, beyond 3D. What it is, is a crying-out-loud statement that "You made me." The Joker is all about being a great, brilliant guy, who just happens to be corrupted by society (the vat he fell into). And I hope that more people other than that one black guy filing the lawsuit, answers the call.

Yes indeedy, James Holmes. We "made" you. Now it is time for us to face the facts, and pay up.
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Post by: OldTimes on July 27, 2012, 06:41:24 AM
;D Youre so funny ZogbotTimes! I'd add your zogbot name to the chart
but that would undermind your zogbot global moderator authority figure
status.

One good thing came out of the jew false flag attack.
Brenden O'connell was dead accurate about this joint being a zog false front.
Might as well go to VNN, because at least the jews running it,
show their faces.

I merely point out the truth, and suddenly I'm "zogbot" to a "zog false front"?

Meanwhile, this thread has sunken into a cesspool of infighting between posters who were more-less dormant before Aurora.  Maybe you're right about this place being infiltrated.  Time to delouse?
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Post by: jacob gold on July 27, 2012, 06:50:46 AM
 
Quote
Anyway, we know who is behind this, but whether or not he himself is jewish could be a red herring.


Mr Old Times  ..... Much like Vir Tech ..... a jewish shrink fed a zipperhead cho drunks .... a jewish president didn't shut down a campus after two murders earlier that day

As far as holmes ...... I bet he is a jew ..... but I agree that at the least it was a Zio False Flag (gun control?)
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Post by: gelignite on July 27, 2012, 06:58:49 AM
What we DO know, is that Hollywood; first person shooter games; disconnection with reality; all had a hand in shaping this guy's mindset.

You know no such thing. In fact, you know almost nothing about this guy, other than what you've read on the Internet.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 27, 2012, 07:23:20 AM
You know no such thing. In fact, you know almost nothing about this guy, other than what you've read on the Internet.

Right. Watch any of the trash coming out of Hollywood lately? Not sure about the shooter games but I expect the story line in most is the same old crap as portrayed by the jews of Hollywood. Then too there is the jew educational system that starts everyone off with twisted and distorted history and a complete destruction of personal pride and language skills.

If all that doesn't work, vaccines and lab drugs are sure to mind fawk everyone too young to have remembered life without general perversion.

I really hope you have children. Once they fawk you over thanks to all that (or are they in the Yeshiva?) maybe then...
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 27, 2012, 07:47:22 AM
Maybe youre right. He does not
believe Donald Trump and Bill Gates are jews but thinks
James Holme is-
(http://i53.tinypic.com/s4wi04.jpg)

But he is comming around. Better late than never.


This "he's a jew" game is stoopid and counterproductive.  Mr Zimmerman's horrible crime was volunteering to try to protect his community against the ravages of negro crime and then having the audacity to save his life with a firearm when a vicious black burglar was trying to beat him to death.  Any self-respecting anti-racist would just have layed there and died, and then we would never have heard one single word about this case on the zognews.

The Holmes case is suspicious in many ways and it is clear that They want to use it to disarm the American proles just as they did to the Australians and Brits.

The endlessly self-promoting De Nugent has been banned from just about every forum he's ever posted on.  He's probably a pervert and an informer.  He set up that Finnish boy who was living with him.
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Post by: curiousity on July 27, 2012, 08:27:40 AM
The endlessly self-promoting De Nugent has been banned from just about every forum he's ever posted on.  He's probably a pervert and an informer.  He set up that Finnish boy who was living with him.

I always thought he was abit zoggish, which explains his ties to the board leadership here.
I always assumed his input was valued here.

http://thebeerbarrel.net/threads/henrik-holappa-the-truth-about-john-de-nugent.7843/

http://free-henrik-holappa.blogspot.com/


But never-minding this John De Nugent zogbot nutjob, living in a gay crack motel with wifi in Erie...
but the blubber-lipped, rat-nosed mamzer, holmes, is still a kike, along with his beastly looking jew parents-

(http://imguol.com/2012/07/20/20jul2012---20jul2012---amiga-nao-identificada-de-robert-e-arlene-holmes-pais-de-james-holmes-suposto-atirador-de-massacre-em-cinema-de-aurora-colorado-eua-deixa-a-residencia-deles-em-san-1342824480163_956x500.jpg)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/698254/thumbs/o-JAMES-HOLMES-MUGSHOT-570.jpg)

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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 27, 2012, 09:32:17 AM
I always thought he was abit zoggish, which explains his ties to the board leadership here.

Where do you get off saying shite like that? I sent him packing on account of his self-promotion and apparent inability to participate on any thread other than his own.

Quote

I always assumed his input was valued here.

He wasn't saying anything new. Did you value his input? Are we supposed to exclude people merely for speaking out, whether what is said is accurate or not? That why we discuss stuff here, to dissect, to analyze and speculate. You may notice that even our detractors don't get the boot merely because you, or I, disagree. If you don't care for what someone has to say, tear it apart or set them to 'ignore'. The only agenda the board 'leadership' has here is to provide a venue for all of the above.

I am really getting a little weary of you calling this place ZOG and so on. I'm calling you out on it. Put up or shut up.
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Post by: jacob gold on July 27, 2012, 09:42:57 AM
Holmes being Jewish is just part of the picture. You need his background, his associates, his motive, and lay out what happened.

The Columbine shooting wasn't about two zios shooting up a school, it was about a clique of jewish kids (Trench coat mafia), and their Aiding and abetting . Next, the motive was gun control, and finally a coverup, where a jewish FBI agent leading the investigation.
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Post by: gelignite on July 27, 2012, 09:49:54 AM
Right. Watch any of the trash coming out of Hollywood lately?

[...]

...shooter games...

...educational system...

...vaccines and lab drugs...

So are you suggesting that if only these things were eliminated from society, then Aurora would have never occurred... that crimes such as mass murder only happen in which the above "Jew" institutions are allowed to flourish?

...

Jews cause tidal waves and earthquakes, too, huh.
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Post by: curiousity on July 27, 2012, 10:43:55 AM
Where do you get off saying shite like that? I sent him packing on account of his self-promotion and apparent inability to participate on any thread other than his own.

He wasn't saying anything new. Did you value his input? Are we supposed to exclude people merely for speaking out, whether what is said is accurate or not? That why we discuss stuff here, to dissect, to analyze and speculate. You may notice that even our detractors don't get the boot merely because you, or I, disagree. If you don't care for what someone has to say, tear it apart or set them to 'ignore'. The only agenda the board 'leadership' has here is to provide a venue for all of the above.

I am really getting a little weary of you calling this place ZOG and so on. I'm calling you out on it. Put up or shut up.

o.k. - last time, I did a nationwide sweep of msm crime stories involving jews and all was swept into a locked, non-public thread called, "Jewish Studies".
and threads like "ask a jew" are amusing in "National and World News".

ok- holmes is not a jew, and it was snuff video games and ritalin that shaped
      this white teen doctoral candidate in medical nuerology.

ok- I apologize for challenging your credibility, and I want to be down with you.
Here, look. I'm serious-
http://www.youtube.com/v/xXvyjpKTWNQ


and.... Good Day on ya mate!
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Post by: Sue on July 27, 2012, 11:41:33 AM
So are you suggesting that if only these things were eliminated from society, then Aurora would have never occurred... that crimes such as mass murder only happen in which the above "Jew" institutions are allowed to flourish?

...

Jews cause tidal waves and earthquakes, too, huh.

LOOK AGAIN:

Related research by Begich and Manning uncovered bizarre schemes. For example, Air Force documents revealed that a system had been developed for manipulating and disturbing human mental processes through pulsed radio-frequency radiation (the stuff of HAARP) over large geographical areas. The most telling material about this technology came from writings of Zbigniew Brzezinski (former National Security Advisory to U.S. President Carter) and J.F. MacDonald (science advisor to U.S. President Johnson and a professor of Geophysics at UCLA), as they wrote about use of power-beaming transmitters for geophysical and environmental warfare. The documents showed how these effects might be caused, and the negative effects on human heath and thinking.

Weather Control

Avalanches of energy dislodged by such radio waves could hit us hard. Their work suggests that technicians could control global weather by sending relatively small 'signals' into the Van Allen belts (radiation belts around Earth). Thus Tesla's resonance effects can control enormous energies by tiny triggering signals.
The Begich/ Manning book asks whether that knowledge will be used by war-oriented or biosphere-oriented scientists.

The military has had about twenty years to work on weather warfare methods, which it euphemistically calls weather modification. For example, rainmaking technology was taken for a few test rides in Vietnam. The U.S. Department of Defense sampled lightning and hurricane manipulation studies in Project Skyfire and Project Stormfury. And they looked at some complicated technologies that would give big effects. Angels Don't Play This HAARP cites an expert who says the military studied both lasers and chemicals which they figured could damage the ozone layer over an enemy. Looking at ways to cause earthquakes, as well as to detect them, was part of the project named Prime Argus, decades ago. The money for that came from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA, now under the acronym ARPA.) In 1994 the Air Force revealed its Spacecast 2020 master plan which includes weather control. Scientists have experimented with weather control since the 1940's, but Spacecast 2020 noted that "using environmental modification techniques to destroy, damage or injure another state are prohibited." Having said that, the Air Force claimed that advances in technology "compels a reexamination of this sensitive and potentially risky topic."

40 Years of Zapping the Sky?

As far back as 1958, the chief White House advisor on weather modification, Captain Howard T. Orville, said the U.S. defense department was studying "ways to manipulate the charges of the earth and sky and so affect the weather" by using an electronic beam to ionize or de-ionize the atmosphere over a given area.

In 1966, Professor Gordon J. F. MacDonald was associate director of the Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics at the University of California, Los Angeles, was a member of the President's Science Advisory Committee, and later a member of the President's Council on Environmental Quality.

He published papers on the use of environmental-control technologies for military purposes. MacDonald made a revealing comment: "The key to geophysical warfare is the identification of environmental instabilities to which the addition of a small amount of energy would release vastly greater amounts of energy. " World-recognized scientist MacDonald had a number of ideas for using the environment as a weapon system and he contributed to what was, at the time, the dream of a futurist. When he wrote his chapter, "How To Wreck The Environment," for the book Unless Peace Comes, he was not kidding around. In it he describes the use of weather manipulation, climate modification, polar ice cap melting or destabilization, ozone depletion techniques, earthquake engineering, ocean wave control and brain wave manipulation using the planet's energy fields.

He also said that these types of weapons would be developed and, when used, would be virtually undetectable by their victims. Is HAARP that weapon? The military's intention to do environmental engineering is well documented, U.S. Congress' subcommittee hearings on Oceans and International Environment looked into military weather and climate modification conducted in the early 1970's. "What emerged was an awesome picture of far-ranging research and experimentation by the Department of Defense into ways environmental tampering could be used as a weapon," said another author cited in Angles Don't Play This HAARP.

The revealed secrets surprised legislators. Would an inquiry into the state of the art of electromagnetic manipulation surprise lawmakers today? They may find out that technologies developed out of the HAARP experiments in Alaska could deliver on Gordon MacDonald's vision because leading-edge scientists are describing global weather as not only air pressure and thermal systems, but also as an electrical system.

KNOCK YOURSELF OUT ~ MUCH MORE HERE: 
http://haarp.net/
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 27, 2012, 11:52:37 AM
o.k. - last time, I did a nationwide sweep of msm crime stories involving jews and all was swept into a locked, non-public thread called, "Jewish Studies".
and threads like "ask a jew" are amusing in "National and World News".

Those were not national news stories. They were specific to local communities and involved one, two or three jews involved in perverted behavior. You might just as well include similar behavior by any ethnic group. Either way it's not national news and trivializes serious reporting.

Quote
ok- holmes is not a jew, and it was snuff video games and ritalin that shaped
      this white teen doctoral candidate in medical nuerology.

And this was said by who? What posters have to say has no bearing on the integrity of the forum itself. What the admins and mods say are their views and have no bearing on the integrity of the forum. And the integrity of the forum is built on the lack of any input or control by any agency or organization, or by threats or intimidation by anyone. I know with a considerably degree of certainty that none of us are compromised in any way, shape or form. If you can prove otherwise I'll eat my words.

Quote
ok- I apologize for challenging your credibility, and I want to be down with you.

My avatar points out that I am a Sagitterian. It came from a series of 12 body painting done over a decade ago. Go read up on my sign. Truth, honesty and knowledge is what we seek and live by (generally speaking). A bunch of Japanese dragon tattoos proves nothing that I can think of.

Quote
and.... Good Day on ya mate!

You didn't put up at all. So I recommend that on this issue you shut up. I very much take false accusations personally, as should anyone with integrity.
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Post by: FrontierJustice on July 27, 2012, 12:51:31 PM
Holmes being Jewish is just part of the picture. You need his background, his associates, his motive, and lay out what happened.

The Columbine shooting wasn't about two zios shooting up a school, it was about a clique of jewish kids (Trench coat mafia), and their Aiding and abetting . Next, the motive was gun control, and finally a coverup, where a jewish FBI agent leading the investigation.

100%
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Post by: OldTimes on July 27, 2012, 01:02:36 PM
ok- holmes is not a jew, and it was snuff video games and ritalin that shaped
      this white teen doctoral candidate in medical nuerology.

I agree Holmes is probably jewish, but with all the lies and misinformation coming from the jewish media, who BTW told us about "Jewish big brothers", and people are starting to actually realize this whole thing has been staged,  it could be very damaging for those of us who say the jews are behind this if we ended up being wrong about Holmes.

It's hard to have a credible opinion if you are confused about facts, and there's definitely a lot of confusion.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 27, 2012, 01:10:28 PM
Police claim to thwart mass shooting in Maryland

Published: 27 July, 2012, 20:42
source: http://rt.com/usa/news/police-thwart-mass-maryland-250/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/police-thwart-mass-maryland-250/)

(http://rt.com/files/usa/news/police-thwart-mass-maryland-250/twittercom-pgpdnews-image.n.jpg)
Arsenal found by Prince Goeorge County Police in suspect's home

Police have arrested a man only 24 miles from Washington, D.C. who allegedly had been plotting to carry out a mass shooting at his workplace.

Neil Prescott, 28, was arrested by police in Crofton, Maryland on Thursday night after he allegedly phoned in a threat to employer Pitney Bowes, a software and mailroom supplier, warning them that he would "shoot the place up.”

During a Friday afternoon press conference, investigators say that multiple threats were made several times over the course of multiple phone calls. When police conducted a field interview with the suspect, they say he was wearing a t-shirt that read, “Guns don’t kill people—I do.” Authorities say that, coupled with earlier information obtained in their probe, that “led us to a place where we could get an emergency petition” to arrest Prescott.

The investigation was led by the Ann Arundel, Maryland Police Department in conjunction with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

“If you call anybody and threaten to do harm — kill people — we’re going to believe you. And we did,” an officer involved in the investigation said during Friday’s presser.

Investigators say they found more than 20 firearms, including assault rifles, and 400 rounds of ammunition at his home.

According to authorities, Prescott identified himself as “a joker,” but they are not officially linking the planned shooting yet to last week’s incident in Aurora, Colorado. James Holmes, 24, is accused of opening fire at an Aurora cinema last week during a screening of the new Batman film and killing 12 people. Investigators say Holmes called himself the Joker, a reference to the comic book hero’s archenemies; he sported a hair-do similar to the sinister character’s own during his first public appearance on Monday.

A law enforcement source speaking with ABC 7 in Maryland says that authorities believe that, had they not foiled Prescott’s plan, there "could have been another Aurora” only miles away from the nation’s capital. Prescott had not been charged yet, but is being held under an emergency petition filed by a judge.

LW - Timely or what?
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 27, 2012, 01:28:31 PM
...I sent him [de Nugent] packing on account of his self-promotion and apparent inability to participate on any thread other than his own.
...



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Post by: laconas on July 27, 2012, 01:41:24 PM
I agree Holmes is probably jewish, but with all the lies and misinformation coming from the jewish media, who BTW told us about "Jewish big brothers", and people are starting to actually realize this whole thing has been staged,  it could be very damaging for those of us who say the jews are behind this if we ended up being wrong about Holmes.

It's hard to have a credible opinion if you are confused about facts, and there's definitely a lot of confusion.


The main actor doesn't necessarily have to be Jewish -- it could still be a Jewish plot. Who benefits and who were the victims might be better questions

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Post by: gelignite on July 27, 2012, 01:52:56 PM
...it could be very damaging for those of us who say the jews are behind this if we ended up being wrong about Holmes.

Since you already have zero credibility, what else have you got to lose?
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 27, 2012, 02:02:15 PM
Since you already have zero credibility, what else have you got to lose?


Ever hear about the pot calling the kettle black, champ?
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Post by: OldTimes on July 27, 2012, 02:12:35 PM
Ever hear about the pot calling the kettle black, champ?

Coming from him it's Talmudic, and therefore a compliment!
 ;)
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Post by: Sue on July 27, 2012, 02:21:35 PM
Since you already have zero credibility, what else have you got to lose?

ROFLMAO ;D

Since when do you have credibility?
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Post by: bpocatch on July 27, 2012, 03:23:34 PM
Police claim to thwart mass shooting in Maryland

LW - Timely or what?

(http://www.televisioninternet.com/news/pictures/Neil-Prescott.jpg)

I think Neil might want to try some stepmaster before doing the joker bit.

LOS ANGELES (LALATE) – Neil Prescott (photo above) has been arrested for the alleged “Joker” threat at Pitney Bowes. Neil Prescott is a resident of Crofton, Maryland, police tell news. Officials claim that Prescott called Pitney Bowes this week indicating himself to be a “joker” and threatening to cause mass terror. No Facebook nor Twitter account has been identified with Prescott yet.

But officials would not confirm any other connection to the Colorado shooting case earlier this month. During a search of Prescott’s home, nearly two dozen guns and more than four hundred rounds of ammunition was recovered.

During his call, Prescott allegedly said “I am a joker, I’m gonna load my guns and blow everybody up”, Maryland’s police chief told news today. The chief tells news “We think a violent episode was avoided”. PGPD’s Media Relations division released the following picture moments ago, calling it “thwarted terror threat, picture of weapons”.

Pitney Bowes issued the following statement moments ago. “The suspect arrested is an employee of a subcontractor to Pitney Bowes. At Pitney Bowes we have clear security protocol and when we had concerns about this individual, we contacted authorities.. He has not been on any Pitney Bowes property in more than four months.”
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 27, 2012, 04:30:22 PM
(http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23964.0;attach=1274;image)
explain this
Police sargent insisted Holmes had "painted his hair red" - not dyed it.
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Post by: gelignite on July 27, 2012, 07:36:59 PM
Since when do you have credibility?

It isn't me who gets caught telling lie after lie after lie, sweet cheeks.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 27, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
It isn't me who gets caught telling lie after lie after lie, sweet cheeks.

Yo dewd, yes it is. Repeating the jew lies of 50 centuries is still a form of lying.
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Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 05:20:11 AM
Yo dewd, yes it is. Repeating the jew lies of 50 centuries is still a form of lying.

Oh? And which ones have I repeated? Be specific, please.

I've thrown out this challenge before, and no one ever has ever come up with a response.

Meanwhile, there are people on this forum who concluded that Holmes was a "Jew" from Day One, and have been repeating that same assertion ever since, despite a total and complete lack of supportive evidence.

And when those who are considered to be among the more sensible fellow travellers pointed that out, they were more or less ridiculed (or were otherwise met with kindergarten logic).

And yet, somehow, those people are considered to be above board... top-level posters whose integrity is beyond question.


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Post by: bpocatch on July 28, 2012, 05:36:09 AM
Oh? And which ones have I repeated? Be specific, please.
I've thrown out this challenge before, and no one ever has ever come up with a response.

Will you affirm or deny that there is one Zionist deception?
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Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 05:58:13 AM
Will you affirm or deny that there is one Zionist deception?

Not sure what you mean.

If you're asking if I think Zionists have ever deceived anyone, then the answer is yes.


But then, so have Republicans, Democrats, Neo-Nazis, the KKK...
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 06:02:33 AM
You know no such thing. In fact, you know almost nothing about this guy, other than what you've read on the Internet.

You're seriously going to try and debate me on this? Get real.
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 06:09:18 AM
Right. Watch any of the trash coming out of Hollywood lately? Not sure about the shooter games but I expect the story line in most is the same old crap as portrayed by the jews of Hollywood. Then too there is the jew educational system that starts everyone off with twisted and distorted history and a complete destruction of personal pride and language skills.

If all that doesn't work, vaccines and lab drugs are sure to mind fawk everyone too young to have remembered life without general perversion.

I really hope you have children. Once they fawk you over thanks to all that (or are they in the Yeshiva?) maybe then...

Thanks for that.

Fifteen pages into this thread, and we're still debating whether James is a jew, and the usual trolls like Skunk et al are pushing this, er, "theory." OK, I'm gonna get down with you guys. Let's say James is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT YID, with the dual citizenship and everything. What in the hell does that prove? Other then you clowns get to pat yourselves on the back, congratulate yourselves for winning yet another round of "Spot the Jew," and move on to the next conspiracy?

God forbid we look at the infrastructure behind what turns a 24-year-old white kid with a 150-plus IQ into a psychopathic killer. Gee whiz, that kind of speculation might actually achieve something.

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Post by: bpocatch on July 28, 2012, 06:10:10 AM
Not sure what you mean.

If you're asking if I think Zionists have ever deceived anyone, then the answer is yes.

But then, so have Republicans, Democrats, Neo-Nazis, the KKK...

Okay we found common ground and  now we are negotiating...  ;)

How can we work together to improve the world?
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 28, 2012, 06:10:48 AM
Oh? And which ones have I repeated? Be specific, please.

The insistence that al-Quada is for real is the most recent.

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I've thrown out this challenge before, and no one ever has ever come up with a response.

BS. You have been answered time and time again but never answer specific allegations and/or disseminate into other issues.

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Meanwhile, there are people on this forum who concluded that Holmes was a "Jew" from Day One, and have been repeating that same assertion ever since, despite a total and complete lack of supportive evidence.

Once bitten, twice shy. I can hardly blame them. Had this been 1913 you would have denied that Lenin was a jew.

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And when those who are considered to be among the more sensible fellow travellers pointed that out, they were more or less ridiculed (or were otherwise met with kindergarten logic).

And yet, somehow, those people are considered to be above board... top-level posters whose integrity is beyond question.

Evidence was being presented, scanty as it is. You jumped into denial mode from the get go instead of considering the possibility. Though I myself don't think he's a jew it is still not certainty. At this point I even doubt whether he did the shooting, I doubt the whole friggin' story. We have to move up the ladder of officialdom to discern the players feeding us the bull. As gun control has been a favorite project of the jews for decades and murder and mayhem is part and parcel of that project I'm certain that we'll find jews at the rudder in due time.

What you have been doing in these instances is borderline trolling which is a violation of the TOS. You have been tolerated because you have maintained a modicum of civility and opposing perspectives should be considered. This time around you went more for insult than substance, though done politely. Quite a few of us are beginning to get weary of it.
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 06:11:50 AM

The main actor doesn't necessarily have to be Jewish -- it could still be a Jewish plot. Who benefits and who were the victims might be better questions



It's a sad day when only Iaconas and LoneWolf are the only voices of reason on this topic.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 28, 2012, 06:12:03 AM
Thanks for that.

Fifteen pages into this thread, and we're still debating whether James is a jew, and the usual trolls like Skunk et al are pushing this, er, "theory." OK, I'm gonna get down with you guys. Let's say James is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT YID, with the dual citizenship and everything. What in the hell does that prove? Other then you clowns get to pat yourselves on the back, congratulate yourselves for winning yet another round of "Spot the Jew," and move on to the next conspiracy?

God forbid we look at the infrastructure behind what turns a 24-year-old white kid with a 150-plus IQ into a psychopathic killer. Gee whiz, that kind of speculation might actually achieve something.

I agree. I said as much many posts back. Jew or not is basically irrelevant. It merely obfuscates the discovery process.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 28, 2012, 06:14:33 AM
It's a sad day when only Iaconas and LoneWolf are the only voices of reason on this topic.

Be fair, others have refrained to comment BECAUSE of the insistence by some to focus on the ethnicity of the alleged shooter. They also accepted that Holmes was the perpetrator without considering he might, just might be a patsy.
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Post by: bpocatch on July 28, 2012, 06:14:45 AM
It's a sad day when only Iaconas and LoneWolf are the only voices of reason on this topic.

It is a happy day, there are two before there are three, ..., =[N]
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 06:15:35 AM

What you have been doing in these instances is borderline trolling which is a violation of the TOS. You have been tolerated because you have maintained a modicum of civility and opposing perspectives should be considered. This time around you went more for insult than substance, though done politely. Quite a few of us are beginning to get weary of it.

I'm gonna go on the record here and beg you, LoneWolf, DO NOT BAN JELLY. He provides an important public service, and you know what that is. Even if he IS an asshole.
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Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 06:17:09 AM
You're seriously going to try and debate me on this? Get real.

By all means then... post whatever special insights you have into the mind of this killer that the rest of the world doesn't already know... what specific "Jew" institutions to which Holmes has been exposed that a half a billion others (who did not shoot up a theater full of people) have not.
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 06:21:06 AM
By all means then... post whatever special insights you have into the mind of this killer that the rest of the world doesn't already know... what specific "Jew" institutions to which Holmes has been exposed that a half a billion others (who did not shoot up a theater full of people) have not.

So, I guess you have no clue as to the ultimate debasement of society that has been going on in FORCE in this country, for at least the past 60 years?

I give you - written by a Jew - the book, "Reefer Madness" (Eric Schlosser). Wanna get back to me about the jewish porn kings? Which is just ONE solitary aspect of your whole debauching of our culture.
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 06:28:51 AM
There are two people (besides Proemio) who are painfully absent from this topic. They'd be WRS and Danny the Watchman on the Rock.

There is a spiritual purity in both of them that sharpens their analysis in ways that the rest of us raging heathens will never achieve.
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Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 06:29:02 AM
So, I guess you have no clue as to the ultimate debasement of society that has been going on in FORCE in this country, for at least the past 60 years?

I give you - written by a Jew - the book, "Reefer Madness" (Eric Schlosser). Wanna get back to me about the jewish porn kings? Which is just ONE solitary aspect of your whole debauching of our culture.

I'll repeat the request: Post whatever special insights you have into the mind of this killer that the rest of the world doesn't already know... what specific "Jew" institutions to which Holmes has been exposed that a half a billion others (who did not shoot up a theater full of people) have not.


Unless, of course, you're actually suggesting that Holmes was influenced by Ron Jeremy.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 28, 2012, 06:31:39 AM
I'm gonna go on the record here and beg you, LoneWolf, DO NOT BAN JELLY. He provides an important public service, and you know what that is. Even if he IS an asshole.

I don't want to. I appreciate having intelligent posters, regardless of their position or allegiances. But again, in his last post he states... 'into the mind of this killer '...

We don't even know if he IS the killer Gelignite. Let's look deeper, please. Officialdom has not presented any credible evidence and is already sequestering the evidence they claim they have. This focus on Holmes and ethnicity is misdirection designed to keep us away from the truth.
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Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 06:35:26 AM
There are two people (besides Proemio) who are painfully absent from this topic. They'd be WRS and Danny the Watchman on the Rock.

I somehow doubt that WRS would have weighed in heavily on this one. He always had bigger fish to fry, it seemed.
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 06:36:42 AM

Unless, of course, you're actually suggesting that Holmes was influenced by Ron Jeremy.

OK, that actually made me bust out laughing.



Beyond that, you're being purposefully obtuse.
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 06:41:09 AM

We don't even know if he IS the killer Gelignite.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I bet about 99% certainly that Holmes IS the killer. I mean, I'm willing to explore other valid options if someone can present them, but overall, I think this one is pretty cut and dried.

I'm less concerned about the (predictable) opacity of the law enforcement. What really has me intrigued is the obvious "omerta" that the University of Colorado is enforcing.

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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 06:44:05 AM
I somehow doubt that WRS would have weighed in heavily on this one. He always had bigger fish to fry, it seemed.

You just cracked me up a second time with the imagery of WRS frying fish. Like with a chef coat on, and everything.
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Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 06:47:04 AM
We don't even know if he IS the killer Gelignite.

HAH! There you go, dom... we don't even know if Holmes (i.e., "the Jews") did the deed in the first place.

I think I'm gonna go away for a while and let you guys hash this one out.

 ;D
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 28, 2012, 06:49:07 AM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I bet about 99% certainly that Holmes IS the killer. I mean, I'm willing to explore other valid options if someone can present them, but overall, I think this one is pretty cut and dried.

I'm less concerned about the (predictable) opacity of the law enforcement. What really has me intrigued is the obvious "omerta" that the University of Colorado is enforcing.

I don't think it's cut and dry at all. Witnesses have already gone on record that there was an accomplice. The shooter was wearing a mask. I'm not seeing the list of victims,those killed or those wounded. The testimony of alleged victims was too 'professional' by far.

WRS took ill back in April. I don't know whether he is still with us in life or not. Sushi might know more.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 28, 2012, 06:50:21 AM
HAH! There you go, dom... we don't even know if Holmes (i.e., "the Jews") did the deed in the first place.

I think I'm gonna go away for a while and let you guys hash this one out.

 ;D

See, damage done, off you go.
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Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 06:54:44 AM
WRS took ill back in April. I don't know whether he is still with us in life or not.

He is not.

Unfortunately.
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 07:00:52 AM
HAH! There you go, dom... we don't even know if Holmes (i.e., "the Jews") did the deed in the first place.


What a ridiculous comment. Equating Holmes with "the Jews"? Are you just trying to obfuscate the obvious Talmudic influence that is destroying our culture?

I really wish I had a religious bone in my body, because at this point, I'd love to become Amish. You can have your "Lady GAG" and all that other crap.

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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 07:01:32 AM
He is not.

Unfortunately.

What?

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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 07:09:36 AM
I don't think it's cut and dry at all. Witnesses have already gone on record that there was an accomplice. The shooter was wearing a mask. I'm not seeing the list of victims,those killed or those wounded. The testimony of alleged victims was too 'professional' by far.


Somewhere, a few days ago, I did see a list of victims' names. Both of the dead, and the injured.

I can't seem to find it now, though.

In all that mayhem, I can't believe that ANY of the victims have very reliable "testimony." For my part, it's entirely possible that Holmes pulled off this entire thing by himself. He set himself up with his car parked exactly where it should be, had obviously cased the joint beforehand, set something up to keep that door ajar while he 'suited up,' then let-er rip.

What people keep forgetting is just how g-damn NOISY these theaters are anymore (one of many reasons I don't attend any longer). You could have a gun going off RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR FRIGGIN HEAD and it would be hard to figure out. Tear gas, smoke bombs, loads of noise, you get the picture.

I think most people were too busy scrambling for their LIVES to do an accurate assessment of the perp(s). Just my opinion.

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Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 07:10:07 AM
What?

The guy who posted as WRS (aka "twocent" at boondocks) has passed away.

There was a thread about it a while back... eulogy from clayman, etc.


Very sad.
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Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 07:18:55 AM
Equating Holmes with "the Jews"?

I thought that's what YOU were doing.

So you're saying that no matter who pulled the trigger, the real culprit is "Talmudic influence"?
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 07:20:08 AM
The guy who posted as WRS (aka "twocent" at boondocks) has passed away.

There was a thread about it a while back... eulogy from clayman, etc.


Very sad.

I didn't even know he was sick. We hadn't emailed in probably a few years. He was sort of a personal hero for me. Remember when Joe kicked me off of the old NOLAJBS forum? WRS was right there offering to download and send me all of my posts. Somewhere I think I still have one of the threads he sent me.

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Post by: jacob gold on July 28, 2012, 07:21:03 AM
Holmes is Jewish, and the Zios don't want that discussed. That's a 1/3 of the puzzle. Now you need to look at the accomplices, the motive, and the cover-up. Columbine, Port Arthur, Virginia Tech, Canada's shootings, etc were about gun control.

I am sure the zios would prefer a Cho, or that flunky at the Amish school. But the pure fact is a lot of killers are Jewish - Amy Bishop, the college professor. There were two horrifying shootings in Canada done by Jews (naturally they were classified Russian immigrants)
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 07:26:04 AM
I thought that's what YOU were doing.

And so, class, now we have an example of that favorite ploy of Jelly and the sayanim in general, which is the art of "projection."

Hm. "Projection." Movie theater. God, the metaphoric hits just keep on coming.

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So you're saying that no matter who pulled the trigger, the real culprit is "talmudic culture"?

You say that as if it's a ridiculous concept. I don't care how much you try to sneer and spin, you're getting nowhere. With ANY of us.

And I already know what your next move is going to be, so you can just forget it. Consider yourself already in checkmate.

Again.
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Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 07:35:32 AM
Holmes is Jewish, and the Zios don't want that discussed.

And around we go, back to bringing up whether Homey is a jew.

Well, with your PhD in Jewology, you aren't going to provide any proof? I asked you before.

More baseless assertions. Yawn. You really couldn't get any more of a NON-jewish looking character than this guy. Unless he was a Jap.


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That's a 1/3 of the puzzle.

Love to know where you got that formula.


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Now you need to look at the accomplices, the motive, and the cover-up. Columbine, Port Arthur, Virginia Tech, Canada's shootings, etc were about gun control.

Whether staged or unstaged, it's pretty obvious "cui bono". I tend to think occurrence like these and 9/11, are ALLOWED to fester until they erupt. Not necessarily "planned."


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But the pure fact is a lot of killers are Jewish - Amy Bishop, the college professor. There were two horrifying shootings in Canada done by Jews (naturally they were classified Russian immigrants)

So tell me, expert, is Casey Anthony a jew? Ted Bundy? Charlie Manson? David Koresh?
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Post by: jacob gold on July 28, 2012, 09:52:04 AM
  Moishe Cowell (Nee' Kowal) aka Ted Bundy

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Domiknque - So tell me, expert, is Casey Anthony a jew? Ted Bundy? Charlie Manson? David Koresh?

I don't mind educating you, and I guess it sort of relates to Aurora.


Perhaps the most famous poster boy of serial killers is Ted Bundy.  But did you know that Ted Bundy was Jewish?  Yep.  And, once again, the Zionist media portrayed him as a psycho white guy.  Genetically he was Jewish.  Religion-wise he was Mormon.  I'm referring to genetics here, not religious beliefs.  Bundy was genetically one of "The Tribe."

Bundy's real name was Cowell, an Americanized form of the Polish-Jewish name of Kowal. He was connected to some Jewish politicians (Evans and Davis)... they fought for him at his trial.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_bundy

http://www.sztetl.org.pl/en/article/kowal/5,history/

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/tedbundy.htm
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Post by: Sue on July 28, 2012, 10:14:09 AM
I don't think it's cut and dry at all. Witnesses have already gone on record that there was an accomplice. The shooter was wearing a mask. I'm not seeing the list of victims, those killed or those wounded. The testimony of alleged victims was too 'professional' by far.

WRS took ill back in April. I don't know whether he is still with us in life or not. Sushi might know more.

He is no longer with us, LW. Unfortunately most of our correspondence 'died' with my old computer.

Salaam!

March 23, 2012, 03:32:05

Hi Clayman,

Have there been any updates regarding Haji? Please, if you are still residing there, say 'Hello' from me and tell him that my thoughts are with him and his family.

It makes me cry to think about his sad situation.

All the best to you,

Susan

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Thank you for your kind words, Susan.

As you may or may not have heard, the shaikh has been diagnosed with stage IV cancer.  He has moved from hospital to home hospice back to hospital again in the course of the last two weeks.  In spite of his condition, his consciousness remains remarkably sharp to those who see with the eyes of faith.  And we pray that as God revives the lifeless earth come spring, so too shall he restore Hajj Abujamal.

Ameen.

May God reward you generously.

You have always been delightful, Susan.  May your heart know perpetual contentment.   

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Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 28, 2012, 10:17:31 AM
  Moishe Cowell (Nee' Kowal) aka Ted Bundy

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I don't mind educating you, and I guess it sort of relates to Aurora.


Perhaps the most famous poster boy of serial killers is Ted Bundy.  But did you know that Ted Bundy was Jewish?  Yep.  And, once again, the Zionist media portrayed him as a psycho white guy.  Genetically he was Jewish.  Religion-wise he was Mormon.  I'm referring to genetics here, not religious beliefs.  Bundy was genetically one of "The Tribe."

Bundy's real name was Cowell, an Americanized form of the Polish-Jewish name of Kowal. He was connected to some Jewish politicians (Evans and Davis)... they fought for him at his trial.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_bundy

http://www.sztetl.org.pl/en/article/kowal/5,history/

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/tedbundy.htm


Got it. So, Bundy is a jew.

What about James Holmes?

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Post by: jacob gold on July 28, 2012, 10:24:58 AM

Got it. So, Bundy is a jew.

What about James Holmes?

It has pretty much been confirmed that Holmes is Jewish. The discussion now centers around accomplices, motive, and the cover up.


Discuss Ted Bundy on this thread    http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=24020.msg227315#msg227315
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 28, 2012, 10:54:35 AM
Holmes is Jewish, and the Zios don't want that discussed. That's a 1/3 of the puzzle. Now you need to look at the accomplices, the motive, and the cover-up. Columbine, Port Arthur, Virginia Tech, Canada's shootings, etc were about gun control.

From U.N. Treaties to these suspicious acts, it is about Gun Control
All 'Gun control' fanatics are jews
You have the right to bear arms for self defense and to form militias
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 28, 2012, 10:56:24 AM
  Moishe Cowell (Nee' Kowal) aka Ted Bundy

 (http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/18814.gif)



I don't mind educating you, and I guess it sort of relates to Aurora.


Perhaps the most famous poster boy of serial killers is Ted Bundy.  But did you know that Ted Bundy was Jewish?  Yep.  And, once again, the Zionist media portrayed him as a psycho white guy.  Genetically he was Jewish.  Religion-wise he was Mormon.  I'm referring to genetics here, not religious beliefs.  Bundy was genetically one of "The Tribe."

Bundy's real name was Cowell, an Americanized form of the Polish-Jewish name of Kowal. He was connected to some Jewish politicians (Evans and Davis)... they fought for him at his trial.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_bundy

http://www.sztetl.org.pl/en/article/kowal/5,history/

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/tedbundy.htm

wow
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 28, 2012, 10:58:30 AM
  Moishe Cowell (Nee' Kowal) aka Ted Bundy

 (http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/18814.gif)



I don't mind educating you, and I guess it sort of relates to Aurora.


Perhaps the most famous poster boy of serial killers is Ted Bundy.  But did you know that Ted Bundy was Jewish?  Yep.  And, once again, the Zionist media portrayed him as a psycho white guy.  Genetically he was Jewish.  Religion-wise he was Mormon.  I'm referring to genetics here, not religious beliefs.  Bundy was genetically one of "The Tribe."

Bundy's real name was Cowell, an Americanized form of the Polish-Jewish name of Kowal. He was connected to some Jewish politicians (Evans and Davis)... they fought for him at his trial.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_bundy

http://www.sztetl.org.pl/en/article/kowal/5,history/

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/tedbundy.htm

How did he get the name Ted Bundy?
Who told him to change his name and for what reason?
Yes he had 'help' as did Sam Berkowitz (Son of Sam).
These killers don't work alone.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 28, 2012, 12:24:36 PM
It has pretty much been confirmed that Holmes is Jewish. The discussion now centers around accomplices, motive, and the cover up.

It hasn't Jacob unless you know something we don't. I fully support the second statement. Thing of it... if he isn't Jewish then he still sets an example to all Americans in regard to the company they keep. Think Pat Robertson. Not jewish but definitely a tool. There are so may examples of non-jews whose 'mentors' have been jews.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Sue on July 28, 2012, 01:25:31 PM
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DANGEROUS CREATION — for thinkers.

"THE WORLD IS A COMEDY TO THOSE WHO THINK, AND A TRAGEDY TO THOSE THAT FEEL ." Horace Walpole (1717-1797)



Batman And Psycho America!

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Once again, the U.S. has experienced another gun massacre. This one was in a movie theatre in Colorado showing a new Batman movie and 59 people were wounded (some critically) and 12 were killed.

The killer, a medical student, was 24 and had no previous conviction for homicide or assault. The killer, who has a baby face, had an arsenal of weapon plus gas cylinders and was wearing a bulletproof vest. He was arrested in his car which was parked behind the cinema following his killing spree. Our hero did not resist arrest.

And again, following this horror, the nation which is the world’s biggest warmonger and slaughters the most people in the world, will defend the ownership of weapons, talk about the right to bear arms which is in the American Constitution even while the bodies of the massacred are being buried! You can’t get sicker than that!

Surely it is time for the world to treat America as a sick country, to tell its leaders that the carnage that happens there over and over is not normal but is a sign of derangement, of sick citizens, of a sick culture, of sick movie makers, of sick politicians, of sick leaders.

Sure, Sweden had its moment of horror recently because of Anders Behring Breivik and in Australia we had the Tasmanian massacre carried out by Martin Bryant, but they were single massacres not the serial massacres which occur with monotonous regularity in the United States.

And the irony is that they are often carried out by young people. If the youth of America is sick then what can you expect from American adults who are heavily into drugs, more so than any other society in the world.

Take a moment to look closely at the image of Batman. It is an image which symbolizes horror and violence and it goes with the darkness that is the fictional Gotham City and the sickos who live there.

The world needs America like a hole in the head. It is pulling the world down and down into a moral cesspool from which no one will escape.

Reject American sickness today. Keep it away from your kids! Control their television habits.

Hold up positive stereotypes to them, and get rid your home of sick images like Terminator and Stallone and Batman, and the war games videos, etc.

Encourage your kids to be peaceable, caring of others, anti-violence, compassionate, and to value equality and hate war!



Charter Of The PEACE Movement.

We, Members of  PEACE (Prevent Empire America Controlling Earth), which is a democratic, secular, and international Movement, will peacefully and to the best of our ability work individually, together, and in local groups:

1. To stop any further progression of the militaristic American Empire which is a purely selfish entity, one that is seeking to seize control of the world. If it succeeds, we’ll have a world where inequality, oppression,  torture, rendition, prisoners in cages, endless war, fascism, etc, will reign forever. PEACE opposes all forms of imperialism.

2. To work peacefully but aggressively to stop the American Empire before it leads the world into another dangerous arms race (as it did with the Soviets) which is highly likely to result in a nuclear war and human extinction.

3. To use protests, sanctions, marches, boycotts, political pressure, sit-ins, non-violent civil disobedience, etc, to bring awareness to the world of the dangers of rampant American nationalism and its foolish  delusions of grandeur, its rampant plutocracy, and its insane belief in its exceptionalism.

4. To help the American people to get rid of their current warmongering, deranged leadership then help them to set up a proper democracy which is not controlled by Corporations, Corrupt Politicians, Religious Fundamentalists, their truth-adverse MSM, Right-wing Loonies, the Jewish lobby, etc.

5. To expose the grave shortcomings of capitalism and greed which the American Empire is built upon, shortcomings which result in gross economic inequality and injustice for the majority of the world’s people and ultra-wealth for an elitist few.

6. To work to bring down the American Arms Industry and those of all other nations. These industries fuel endless wars and make enormous profits to say nothing about the terrible weapons they develop such as depleted uranium explosives, napalm, cluster bombs, landmines, phosphorous shells, drones, lethal germs and gases, etc.

7. To stop the invasion and occupation of resource-rich countries by the leaders of the American Empire and its Allies and the wanton killing and destruction which accompany such invasions and the subsequent exploitation and oppression of those who are occupied.

8. To work to close down every American Military Base in the world and force America to go back to its own borders where it belongs and stay there and keep out of the affairs of other nations. Further, to get rid of all American-supported and financed Dictators, Despots and Royal Families as well as  America’s subversive network of clandestine manipulators (such as the CIA, FBI, etc).

9. To put pressure on our own governments to stop supporting and encouraging America’s Empire building which is not designed to improve the quality of life on earth but is designed to control the world purely to advantage American and European oligarchs and billionaires and their parasitic ilk.

10. To work towards peace, equality and justice for all the world’s people and encourage each human being to see themselves as being part of the human family and a citizen of a world without borders and to understand how important it is for all the world’s people to work together to look after each other and care for our fragile planet.

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Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 28, 2012, 05:08:40 PM
Theodore Robert Cowell

It reminds of the part in Mel Gibson's movie  Conspiracy Theory Where he notes that all serial killers and assasins have 3 names.
Was Gibson quite subtely referring to the jewish tradition of having three names. 
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 28, 2012, 05:22:50 PM
It has pretty much been confirmed that Holmes is Jewish. The discussion now centers around accomplices, motive, and the cover up.


It hasn't Jacob unless you know something we don't. I fully support the second statement. Thing of it... if he isn't Jewish then he still sets an example to all Americans in regard to the company they keep. Think Pat Robertson. Not jewish but definitely a tool. There are so may examples of non-jews whose 'mentors' have been jews.

Actually I am very hesitant to say someone is a jew. I argued that the head FBI agent at Columbine was jewish ..... everyone called me a fabricator ... then I found a film produced by Agent Fusilier's kid where he admitted he was jewish.

As to Jared Laughtner ..... I am 99% he was jewish.

As to James holmes ...... I am certain he is Jewish

As to George Zimmerman .... 90% chance he is jewish

But, these are my 'Opinions'. Regarding Aurora, I figured the smart move would be to use a zipperhead like VTs Cho.



Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 05:28:02 PM
And so, class, now we have an example of that favorite ploy of Jelly and the sayanim in general, which is the art of "projection."

Says the one who keeps sidestepping my request. Perhaps third time's the charm:

Kindly post whatever special insights you have into the mind of this *alleged* (okay, LW?) killer that the rest of the world doesn't already know... what specific "Jew" institutions to which Holmes has been exposed that a half a billion others (who did not shoot up a theater full of people) have not.

I think you see where I'm headed here, and so you have assiduously avoided a response. So now I'm calling you out:

If, as you assert, it was "Talmudic influence" which unduly affected Holmes such that he (allegedly - for LW) undertook this horrific action, then why has not this "influence" also affected millions (or billions?) of others who also like their "Dark Knight" (and similar) films, their porn, and their prescription meds? Why are so comparatively few being so adversely affected by these "Jew" institutions? Why is it that for every mass murderer with Jim Holmes's I.Q. there are thousands of others who do not pop a gasket and shoot up a theater... who do, in fact, go on to become doctors and scientists and wind up serving humanity and/or saving lives? Have they not also been exposed (to one extent or another) to this "Talmudic influence" of which you speak?

And if they have, and if they do not become mass murderers, then could it be that the root cause of Holmes's behavior lies elsewhere, having nothing whatever to do with "the Jews" at all?

This is a question that no one will answer. It is also, I think, why you're receiving considerable resistance (among Jacob and several others) to the idea that Holmes is a non-Jew. It's much easier for them to simply brand Holmes as a "chosen" than attempt to take on this nebulous (and ultimately unprovable) theory of yours - i.e., that Holmes was some hapless Goy who became affected by "Talmudic influence".

Jacob will never stop insisting that Holmes is a Jew. You can count on this. From here on out.

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You say that as if it's a ridiculous concept.

See above. You take a stab at the questions up there, and we'll see whether or not your concept is ridiculous.

I already know that you won't do it. I just want everyone to *see* that you won't do it.

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Consider yourself already in checkmate.

You've been in check for the last several posts now. All your hand-waving is not gonna stop the clock, however.

You've made an assertion. Now back it up.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 28, 2012, 05:32:26 PM
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Theodore Robert Cowell

It reminds of the part in Mel Gibson's movie  Conspiracy Theory Where he notes that all serial killers and assasins have 3 names.
Was Gibson quite subtely referring to the jewish tradition of having three names.


I sort of doubt that Zios want to admit that Jeffrey Dahmer, David Berkowitz, Ted Bundy, Jack the Ripper, Gein, etc were Jewish.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 05:42:46 PM
So tell me, expert, is Casey Anthony a jew? Ted Bundy? Charlie Manson? David Koresh?

You obviously don't know how it works with some people, dom. Let me help you now:

If a crime is reported in the news, then it is automatically assumed that the alleged perpetrator is a Jew. If the nature of the crime is sexual or involving the theft of large sums of money, then it becomes a *certainty* that alleged perp is a Jew - as a matter of course. In fact, from that point on, the onus is upon others to conclusively prove that the crime was NOT committed by a Jew, even if the alleged perp is somehow cleared of all charges. Which is a hard thing to do if there is anything less than six degrees of separation between the alleged perp and any Jewish institution or person.

And so the answer to your question is yes... to all of the above.


Put it this way, dom. If it was discovered that an asteroid were heading on a collision course to Earth, then you can rest assured that there is some sort of "Jew" influence that set its trajectory.


Hope that helps.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: mallard on July 28, 2012, 06:07:32 PM
"If a crime is reported in the news, then it is automatically assumed that the alleged perpetrator is a Jew."

This blanket defense is complete BS.   

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Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 28, 2012, 06:12:35 PM
(http://caveofknowledge.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Oswal.jpg)

Lee Harvey Oswald was a Jew, too, wasn't he.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: mallard on July 28, 2012, 06:23:21 PM
Lee Harvey Oswald was a Jew, too, wasn't he.

He was certainly killed by one ... in the process of taking the blame for killing JFK.  You're baiting and looking for diversions to spread more blame in the wrong direction.  I'm not interested.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jewbacca on July 29, 2012, 08:56:26 AM
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Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jewbacca on July 29, 2012, 09:23:13 AM
anyone who's anybody gets their pic in the dailymail.
if you dont have a nosejob or a sliced schmekel they aint interested.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179250/The-Fruit-Shoot-rapist-Bailed-paedophile-sexually-assaulted-12-year-old-girl-spiking-drink-VODKA.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180519/Daryl-Benway-Father-kills-daughter-shoots-son-head-turning-gun-himself.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180263/Father-shoots-dead-estranged-wife-custody-fight-daughter-flees-year-old-girl.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180151/John-Wayne-Gacys-nephew-guilty-abusing-12-year-old-girl-faces-120-years-prison.html





Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 29, 2012, 09:46:04 AM
This was simple entrapment by a 'Shiksas Trollop'

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/26/article-2179250-14390B54000005DC-913_306x423.jpg)



Despite Omar, from Semilong, Northamptonshire, previously serving a 12-year prison sentence for raping a six-year-old girl  in 1987, he was allowed out on bail after being charged with the sexual assault.
The delay in his trial gave Omar the chance to strike again and four days before he was due back in court he spiked a 12-year-old girl's Fruit Shoot drink with vodka before sexually abusing her.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179250/The-Fruit-Shoot-rapist-Bailed-paedophile-sexually-assaulted-12-year-old-girl-spiking-drink-VODKA.html#ixzz222vlyRuE
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 10:21:20 AM
It has pretty much been confirmed that Holmes is Jewish. The discussion now centers around accomplices, motive, and the cover up.


Discuss Ted Bundy on this thread    http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=24020.msg227315#msg227315

Yeah, more baseless assertions. And even an amateurish diversionary tactic to send us off another thread.

You're so transparent.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 29, 2012, 10:25:32 AM
Yeah, more baseless assertions. And even an amateurish diversionary tactic to send us off another thread.

You're so transparent.


If holmes was white than you heebs wouldn't be all over this thread.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 10:29:48 AM

Actually I am very hesitant to say someone is a jew.

As my mother would say, that's a bunch of happy horse shit.


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As to Jared Laughtner ..... I am 99% he was jewish.

As to James holmes ...... I am certain he is Jewish

As to George Zimmerman .... 90% chance he is jewish

So, Holmes is more jewish than either Zimmerman or Loughner?

Are you disinfo, or just a screaming idiot?

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 10:33:10 AM

And if they have, and if they do not become mass murderers, then could it be that the root cause of Holmes's behavior lies elsewhere, having nothing whatever to do with "the Jews" at all?

This is a question that no one will answer.

You know what? You just keep peddling that line. Thanks again for being so obvious.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 10:37:58 AM
It hasn't Jacob unless you know something we don't. I fully support the second statement. Thing of it... if he isn't Jewish then he still sets an example to all Americans in regard to the company they keep. Think Pat Robertson. Not jewish but definitely a tool. There are so may examples of non-jews whose 'mentors' have been jews.

I'm seriously starting to think that the onset of Holmes' paranoid schizophrenia had to do with being the subject of some sort of mind-altering project going on at UofC. That's why they're enforcing this omerta of anybody talking to the press.

There is a HUGE, HUGE liability going on here. The Ped State scandal is going to pale in comparison.






And yeah, just for Jelly......it's all the jews' fault.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 10:39:24 AM

If holmes was white than you heebs wouldn't be all over this thread.

"You heebs," man, that is classic.

I'm about the farthest thing from a "heeb" that you can think of. Nice try, anyway.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 10:43:06 AM
Say Skunk, will you lay out the proof that Holmes is a jew? I want evidence.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 29, 2012, 11:13:48 AM

If holmes was white than you heebs wouldn't be all over this thread.

You are dangerously close to trolling Jacob. Present the proof that Holmes is a jew or shut up about it till (if) you find proof. He may or may not be, but just saying it over and over isn't worth the digital ink.
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Post by: gelignite on July 29, 2012, 12:56:50 PM
You know what? You just keep peddling that line. Thanks again for being so obvious.

I notice that you didn't even *attempt* to address anything in my post.

That's okay, dom. I already knew that you wouldn't.

Like Jacob, you refuse to back up anything that you say.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 29, 2012, 02:47:26 PM
You are dangerously close to trolling Jacob. Present the proof that Holmes is a jew or shut up about it till (if) you find proof. He may or may not be, but just saying it over and over isn't worth the digital ink.

It's your forum. Holmes is a jew, or holmes is not a jew ..... not worth argueing over
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jewbacca on July 29, 2012, 03:03:57 PM
"Camp Max Straus is a nonsectarian program for children ages 7-14, which is run by Jewish Big Brothers and Big Sisters of Los Angeles... BUT DO YOU REALLY THINK JEWISH BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS WOULD ALLOW ANY GOYIM TO BE IN A POSITION OF INFLUENCE OVER GOD'S CHOSEN ONES??

1. According to his resume, posted on Monster.com, Holmes resume includes his work at a Los Angeles Jewish children’s camp and a lab assistant at UC Riverside.

2. Member of Phi Beta Kappa (Jewish dominated fraternity).

3. Worked as a student intern at the Salk Institute in La Jolla, founded by the jewish Jonas Salk."

http://truthisahatecrime.blogspot.com/2012/07/was-dark-knight-killer-jewish.html
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 03:34:04 PM
You are dangerously close to trolling Jacob. Present the proof that Holmes is a jew or shut up about it till (if) you find proof. He may or may not be, but just saying it over and over isn't worth the digital ink.

"Digital ink," that is just grand.

Still waiting for the proof. As usual, Skunk is just trolling and playing disinfo. Repeating over and and over, that James Holmes is a jew.

Hey Skunkie, how's that hasbara operation workin' out for ya?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 03:47:39 PM
I notice that you didn't even *attempt* to address anything in my post.

What's to address?

I think you need to stop twisting, zioplant.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 03:53:54 PM
It's your forum. Holmes is a jew, or holmes is not a jew ..... not worth argueing over

All of a sudden, it's not important whether Holmes is a jew? Just like that?
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Post by: bpocatch on July 29, 2012, 04:03:07 PM
(http://rense.com/general95/Colorado%20Movie%20Massacre_Jam.jpg)

nostrils are different

the guy with the red hair has eyes with a condition called wall eyed.  the both or one eye face outward not straight ahead.

then again the photo of the red head is larger than the left one. 

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 29, 2012, 05:01:42 PM
What's to address?

Only questions that anyone in the reality-based community might ask in response to your whole "da-Joos-dun-it" assertion.

You know... the kinds of questions that you won't answer.

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I think you need to stop twisting, zioplant.

Huh. So tell me, dom, would this be an example of that "ass-kicking" you recall giving me back in the day?
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 29, 2012, 05:39:18 PM
It's your forum. Holmes is a jew, or holmes is not a jew ..... not worth argueing over

Agreed. More important to discover who set it all up. But you keep hammering the point. And like the pic below it's not even clear who Homes is, or what he looks like. And the judge covered all the evidence under his robe now... * pffft * ... now you see it, now you don't.
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Post by: wag on July 29, 2012, 05:42:11 PM
It's your forum. Holmes is a jew, or holmes is not a jew ..... not worth argueing over

Jews control the media.  The news focus is always either: 1) to steer us: 2) to spin us. 
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 29, 2012, 06:02:32 PM
Jews control the media.  The news focus is always either: 1) to steer us: 2) to spin us.

That's a given. So go watch the news instead of repeating the same damn thing over and over. Call the talking heads who are the ones choking the air waves with lies. In any case you are still skating dominique's request for proof.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: wag on July 29, 2012, 06:25:02 PM
That's a given. So go watch the news instead of repeating the same damn thing over and over. Call the talking heads who are the ones choking the air waves with lies. In any case you are still skating dominique's request for proof.

In light of what can be held certain, following the jew media tells us NOT what is important to understand, but what is not important to understand.  Let's not forget it is a stage production for the benefit of jews only.     
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Post by: Vidarr on July 29, 2012, 07:03:06 PM
bumped into this one while wandering around the interwebz

(http://i.imgur.com/f9jj5.jpg)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 29, 2012, 07:10:02 PM
bumped into this one while wandering around the interwebz

(http://i.imgur.com/f9jj5.jpg)

kewl.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 07:28:26 PM
bumped into this one while wandering around the interwebz

(http://i.imgur.com/f9jj5.jpg)

I saw this the other day. God, are you guys suckers if you believe his rant. FOUR WHOLE YEARS of experience as a weapons "expert"? And he got the "$20,0000" figure completely wrong. That kid spent about 600 bucks.

I love all these professionals around here.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 07:29:36 PM
That's a given. So go watch the news instead of repeating the same damn thing over and over. Call the talking heads who are the ones choking the air waves with lies. In any case you are still skating dominique's request for proof.

Still waiting.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 07:32:55 PM
Only questions that anyone in the reality-based community might ask in response to your whole "da-Joos-dun-it" assertion.

You know... the kinds of questions that you won't answer.

Huh. So tell me, dom, would this be an example of that "ass-kicking" you recall giving me back in the day?

OK, I'll play this game. You want to know about the "Talmudic corruption" of humanity, right? Is that going to be our starting point?

I just want to be clear, because you are always obfuscating.


Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 29, 2012, 07:34:49 PM
Unlike previous rampage shooters Holmes was dressed in full bulletproof gear from head to toe.

The NRA's strongest argument for the right to bear arms used against the gun grabber lobby afte the previous shooting sprees was that someone with a gun could have stopped the assailant.

So how convenient for the gun lobby that this time a fully armored kid pops up, to which no gun would have helped. Completely invaliditaing the NRA's argument , leaving only the gun ban as the only option to "protect the innocent"


It appears we have the motive.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 07:46:29 PM
Unlike previous rampage shooters Holmes was dressed in full bulletproof gear from head to toe.

And not just ANY "gear." What he was wearing was one of those "Darth Vader style" bulllet-proof gas masks. Don't ask me how I know this.

The codpiece, the throat guard...our kids in Iraq and AfPak don't even get the privilege of this stuff.

He was geared up better than soldiers or riot police.

I'm telling you, he spent all of 600 bucks to do this. Yeah, I know, it sounds illogical.

I got two words for ya: Cheyenne Mountain.




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It appears we have the motive.

Which is what?

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 29, 2012, 08:13:58 PM
You want to know about the "Talmudic corruption" of humanity, right?

What... are you gonna tell me about how the Jews run Hollywood?

Stipulated.

You gonna point at the Jew-run pornography industry?

Stipulated.

How about the institution of psychiatry? Lotta Jews there, too, huh?

Stipulated.


Now that we've gotten that out of the way....

I want you to demonstrate a specific connection between "Talmudic (influence, corruption, whatever)" and the crime of which Holmes is accused. I want you to show precisely how it affected him - to the exclusion of any other possibility - such that he became compelled to shoot up a room full of people.

I want you to do this or admit that you have and continue to talk out of your own ass with all this "the Jews did it" happy horseshit.

Can you do that, dom... can you defend your ridiculous assertions ONE time?

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I just want to be clear, because you are always obfuscating.

Pot, kettle.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 08:24:10 PM

I want you to demonstrate a specific connection between "Talmudic (influence, corruption, whatever)" and the crime of which Holmes is accused. I want you to show precisely how it affected him - to the exclusion of any other possibility - such that he became compelled to shoot up a room full of people.


Is anybody else laughing as hard as I am at Jelly's purposeful obtuseness?

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 08:26:48 PM
to the exclusion of any other possibility

I just gotta highlight this one because it's another example to show the class.

Now, we have to blame "da joos" completely and utterly, I guess?

Is there a degree in goalpost-moving? Because buddy, you sure got it.



Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 29, 2012, 08:32:36 PM
Is anybody else laughing as hard as I am at Jelly's purposeful obtuseness?

Non-response.

Noted.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 08:36:56 PM
Non-response.

Noted.

You lie, twist, spin and obfuscate all day and night. (Probably, paid.) And you think I need to lay this out for you?

How long have you been trolling this forum, like what, eight years?

And you claim to be clueless?

Please. Spare me.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 29, 2012, 08:48:53 PM
I saw this the other day. God, are you guys suckers if you believe his rant. FOUR WHOLE YEARS of experience as a weapons "expert"? And he got the "$20,0000" figure completely wrong. That kid spent about 600 bucks.

I love all these professionals around here.

Assuming he bought everything new the guns ( AR-15, shotgun, glock ) may have cost around  $ 2500 , the 6000 rounds of ammo +/- $2000 ,The bulletproof armor ( body , legs, helmet, gasmask )  $ 2000,  that's 6500  then we still have other accesoires, teargas, flashbang , explosives, magazines, fuses, detonaters, and whatever else a guy needs to trash a party

Not 20.000 indeed but if you can get that much gear for only $600 we should start a business. 
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 29, 2012, 08:51:24 PM
Now, we have to blame "da joos" completely and utterly, I guess?

At this point I'll settle for any direct connection between "da Joos" ("Talmudic influence", whatever) and the crimes of which Holmes is accused. Any at all.

So far, you're batting doughnuts.

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Is there a degree in goalpost-moving? Because buddy, you sure got it.

Not at all. It goes back to questions that I have asked - and that you have thus far avoided - in an earlier post:

http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg227369#msg227369 (http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg227369#msg227369)

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(Quoting from earlier with emphasis added...) If, as you assert, it was "Talmudic influence" which unduly affected Holmes such that he (allegedly - for LW) undertook this horrific action, then why has not this "influence" also affected millions (or billions?) of others who also like their "Dark Knight" (and similar) films, their porn, and their prescription meds? Why are so comparatively few being so adversely affected by these "Jew" institutions? Why is it that for every mass murderer with Jim Holmes's I.Q. there are thousands of others who do not pop a gasket and shoot up a theater... who do, in fact, go on to become doctors and scientists and wind up serving humanity and/or saving lives? Have they not also been exposed (to one extent or another) to this "Talmudic influence" of which you speak?

And if they have, and if they do not become mass murderers, then could it be that the root cause of Holmes's behavior lies elsewhere, having nothing whatever to do with "the Jews" at all?

So now, Wile E. Coyote, kindly demonstrate how it was "the Jews" (and only "the Jews") which affected Holmes, compelling him to commit these crimes.

Surely you can come up with something, cocksure as you seem to be on the conclusion.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 29, 2012, 08:55:34 PM

I'm telling you, he spent all of 600 bucks to do this. Yeah, I know, it sounds illogical.

I got two words for ya: Cheyenne Mountain.

so what's with cheyenne mountain , they had a garage sale ?

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 29, 2012, 09:07:38 PM
You lie, twist, spin and obfuscate all day and night.

Kindly provide one instance of anything I've ever said that is a demonstrable lie.

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(Probably, paid.)

Your paranoia is showing, I think.

It's probably very difficult for you to accept that I'm just an average Joe who spends (probably too much) time diverting boredom by engaging in these Internet "debates".

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And you think I need to lay this out for you?

Oh, I already know the answer. I would just like you "to lay this out" for the benefit of those who are reading this exchange.

My point is that you won't do it... that you will avoid doing it at all costs.

And it is a point that you're now underscoring quite effectively.

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How long have you been trolling this forum...?

Trolls don't back up their assertions with facts and evidence, dom.

I do. I always have.

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And you claim to be clueless?

I don't claim that I am clueless at all.

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Please. Spare me.

No, I don't think that I will.

You are going to defend your assertion that "the Jews" are responsible for these crimes in Aurora, or you are going to effectively admit that you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Not that these two possibilities are mutually-exclusive, mind you.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: OldTimes on July 29, 2012, 09:38:05 PM
heebs all over this thread.... LOL

(http://i.imgur.com/f9jj5.jpg)

Something makes me doubt this heeb being in the Marines for 4 years...  I wonder what his motive is?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 10:13:16 PM
kindly demonstrate how it was "the Jews" (and only "the Jews") which affected Holmes, compelling him to commit these crimes.


Everybody getting this?

Mister Goalpost Mover has changed the debate to insist that it is "the Jews" AND ONLY "the Jews" responsible for the twistedness of this act.

Thinks he's backing me into a corner. I think not.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 10:15:04 PM
Assuming he bought everything new

You've obviously never been to a gun show. Or bought anything out there on the "skreet."

Which pant leg of mine is up, the left or the right?



Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 10:17:26 PM
heebs all over this thread.... LOL

Something makes me doubt this heeb being in the Marines for 4 years...  I wonder what his motive is?

He says, "82 people." Guy can't even get his goddamned facts straight.

Twenty thousand dollars. What planet is this clown living on?

Cheyenne Mountain. End of story.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 10:21:30 PM


It appears we have the motive.

What is the motive?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 29, 2012, 10:34:54 PM
Everybody getting this?

Mister Goalpost Mover has changed the debate to insist that it is "the Jews" AND ONLY "the Jews" responsible for the twistedness of this act.

Thinks he's backing me into a corner. I think not.

In the very same post to which you're now referring:

http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg227492#msg227492 (http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg227492#msg227492)

"...At this point I'll settle for any direct connection between "da Joos" ("Talmudic influence", whatever) and the crimes of which Holmes is accused. Any at all."


Come on, dom. Quit trying to make this about me and start trying to defend your assertion. I'll withdraw the "Jews and only the Jews" part of the question, if it'll make you happy.

Just establish one causal connection between "the Jews" and the crimes of which Holmes is accused.


Something. Anything.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 29, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
I saw this the other day. God, are you guys suckers if you believe his rant. FOUR WHOLE YEARS of experience as a weapons "expert"? And he got the "$20,0000" figure completely wrong. That kid spent about 600 bucks.

I love all these professionals around here.

When was the last time you bought just one rifle? And why is it you have to insult ALL the posters with every reply? Got friends? Sheesh... respect is part of the TOS.

Oh yeah, full moon.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 11:04:14 PM
When was the last time you bought just one rifle? And why is it you have to insult ALL the posters with every reply? Got friends? Sheesh... respect is part of the TOS.

OK, I apologize. Sorry for the global insult. It's just obvious to me, and should be to anybody, how easy it is to obtain a weapon HERE in the USA. That said, you can get a "rifle" for under a hundred bucks, easy. You can trade a blowjob for a Glock, if you wanted. You've just got to know where to look.




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Oh yeah, full moon.

Good one! I didn't even think about that.


Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 29, 2012, 11:10:37 PM
In the very same post to which you're now referring:

"...At this point I'll settle for any direct connection between "da Joos" ("Talmudic influence", whatever) and the crimes of which Holmes is accused. Any at all."

And then you ended your post with:

"I want you to show precisely how it affected him - to the exclusion of any other possibility - such that he became compelled to shoot up a room full of people." http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg227484#msg227484

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Just establish one causal connection between "the Jews" and the crimes of which Holmes is accused.


Something. Anything.

So what's it gonna be, Jelly? "Something"? "Anything"?

Or EVERYTHING?

Which is it? If you'd just take a break from moving those goalposts around, perhaps you could think clearly enough to frame your "argument" (such as it is) clearly.


You are slipping up bad, dewd. You can't help but contradict yourself.


Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 29, 2012, 11:21:59 PM
OK, I apologize. Sorry for the global insult. It's just obvious to me, and should be to anybody, how easy it is to obtain a weapon HERE in the USA.

As an american you might not know but the largest part of this planet lays outside of america and guess what .. It has been reported that there are even humans living there. 

And no.. giving a blowjob to obtain a glock is not exactly a method of acquisition that crossed my mind. Not everybody in this world lives by the american way. 
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on July 29, 2012, 11:29:18 PM
What is the motive?

If you couldn't even figure that out from the post... Then i wonder why you run around here pretending to be the guy who got it all figured out. 
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 29, 2012, 11:33:01 PM
...perhaps you could think clearly enough to frame your "argument" (such as it is) clearly.

I'm not the one who is claiming that "the Jews" are responsible for Aurora, dom.

I'm merely asking those who are making the claim to support it.


Clearly this is something you are reticent to attempt. Which is the point I've been arguing all along.

Thanks for helping me to illustrate it.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 30, 2012, 12:19:19 AM
I'm not the one who is claiming that "the Jews" are responsible for Aurora, dom.

I'm merely asking those who are making the claim to support it.


Clearly this is something you are reticent to attempt. Which is the point I've been arguing all along.

Thanks for helping me to illustrate it.

I'm asking YOU "what is the motive"? As in, what do YOU think (or know) is the motive?

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 30, 2012, 05:54:35 AM
heebs all over this thread.... LOL

Something makes me doubt this heeb being in the Marines for 4 years...  I wonder what his motive is?

Yes
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: wag on July 30, 2012, 06:36:36 AM
Yes

This reminds me of 9-11, when everyone bought into the storyline of planes crashing into the towers despite any physical evidence or credible eye-witness accounts that they did.

Victims' names (reportedly) here:  http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/aurora-victims-names-and-stories-begin-to-emerge (http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/aurora-victims-names-and-stories-begin-to-emerge)

Can anybody find a real facebook page of either the alleged shooter or any of his reported victims?  I cannot.  Where are the black victims originally reported?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 30, 2012, 06:54:34 AM
I'm asking YOU "what is the motive"? As in, what do YOU think (or know) is the motive?

What does my opinion as to motive have to do with the support of your claim?

Put up or shut up, please.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 30, 2012, 07:23:23 AM
This reminds me of 9-11, when everyone bought into the storyline of planes crashing into the towers despite any physical evidence or credible eye-witness accounts that they did.

Exactly. They throw a story out and everyone argues over the details without being skeptical about the story in the first place, in spite of the lack of evidence.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on July 30, 2012, 05:34:37 PM
Exactly. They throw a story out and everyone argues over the details without being skeptical about the story in the first place, in spite of the lack of evidence.

Flight 93 was shot down. That is fact.

Why 9/11 happened? I've got no idea, other than the obvious police-state swindle.

Now, James Holmes? This is different. You just don't get 100-plus grand in educational grants, along with a living stipend, without giving up something.

In this case, I think he gave up his sanity. As horrible as it is what he did, I actually feel sorry for him. I think he was taken advantage of by some kind of exclusive, sophisticated, mind-altering program.

I'd really like to talk to this guy. Face to face. There is something about this whole situation that just makes me want to look this "killer" in the eyes and figure out why he did this.


Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on July 30, 2012, 06:11:37 PM
Ben Fulford and Space Savior crowd report:

I also found out, from insider contacts, that James Holmes was NOT supposed to have ended up in court, alive, pleading amnesia and looking totally disoriented.

The Cabal is horrified by the fact that this was a “botched job”, and so many people are waking up to the idea of mind control that it is becoming widely known — and only hastening their downfall.

Who registered this guy's arsenal?

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/07/28/david-wilcock-update-7-28-12-powerful-things-going-on/
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 30, 2012, 08:23:57 PM
Flight 93 was shot down. That is fact.

So where did it go?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: laconas on July 30, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
So where did it go?

93 crashed onto a field in Penn. I believe 77, the DC plane, was also shot down, but I have no idea exactly where it was shot down. It certainly didn't crash into the Pentagon.

The days of debating exactly what happened are over.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 30, 2012, 08:52:44 PM
93 crashed onto a field in Penn. I believe 77, the DC plane, was also shot down, but I have no idea exactly where it was shot down. It certainly didn't crash into the Pentagon.

The days of debating exactly what happened are over.

Kind of a small hole, but yeah... kinda burned out on 9-11. We know who did it and it's time to just pity the deniers.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on July 30, 2012, 08:54:30 PM
So where did it go?

The pentagon jet went out in the atlantic to attack the carrier USS Wahington ... remember the carriers steaming up the hudson the next day .... it's in the 9/11 report that NORAD sent two jets out 150 miles
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: laconas on July 30, 2012, 08:57:14 PM
The pentagon jet went out in the atlantic to attack the carrier USS Wahington ... remember the carriers steaming up the hudson the next day .... it's in the 9/11 report that NORAD sent two jets out 150 miles

77 was never hijacked, it was accidentally shot-down over W. Virginia, or some place west of DC.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 30, 2012, 09:30:41 PM
...9-11. We know who did it...

Sure we do. Radicalized Islamic extremists.

There really isn't any debate on this still, is there?


I thought those days were long over.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 30, 2012, 10:25:09 PM
Sure we do. Radicalized Islamic extremists.

There really isn't any debate on this still, is there?


I thought those days were long over.

I pity you.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 30, 2012, 10:42:29 PM
I pity you.

Really?

Whatever for?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Sue on July 30, 2012, 10:56:56 PM
Really?

Whatever for?

You are sooo transparent, just like this Eric Jon Phelps, you know, that smear artist, Israeli Diamond Trader and "Jesuit" Expert, Putting Israel First, Promoting the Zionist Agenda.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 30, 2012, 10:57:12 PM
Really?

Whatever for?

For being either one of three things: stupid, deceived (I repeat myself) or a shill. Anyway you cut that, it does not bode well for you. And by that I mean that payback will be a bitch, either in this life or in the hereafter.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 30, 2012, 11:05:10 PM
For being either one of three things: stupid, deceived (I repeat myself) or a shill. Anyway you cut that, it does not bode well for you. And by that I mean that payback will be a bitch, either in this life or in the hereafter.

Payback? From whom... in what form?

You believe that [someone other than radical Islamic extremists] did 9/11, huh.


So how's that working out for you so far?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on July 31, 2012, 03:18:09 AM
Sure we do. Radicalized Islamic extremists.

There really isn't any debate on this still, is there?

I thought those days were long over.

Wow.  I am still amazed when I meet folks who believe this conspiracy theory.  It is my responsibility.
Title: Here We Go - Colorado man arrested for openly carrying gun in movie theater
Post by: bpocatch on July 31, 2012, 04:30:11 AM
Almost on cue

Carrying a gun into a theater doesn't exactly put fellow moviegoers at ease, especially if it comes on the heels of a shooting tragedy in the same vicinity. On Sunday night, Thorton, Colo., police arrested James G. Mapes for openly carrying a holstered firearm into a movie theater, according to the Denver Post. The Thornton theater where the arrest took place is only 25 minutes away from the Aurora theater where James Holmes went on a shooting spree killing 12 people and injuring 58; both cinemas are situated in the Denver metropolitan area.

Fifteen minutes into a showing of "The Watch," a movie in which four suburban guys band together to form a neighborhood watch group and save the world from aliens, Mapes recalled that a woman sitting by him "took a cell phone call and then said aloud that someone in the movie complex was seen carrying a gun." Mapes stood up, walked to the lobby, and raised his hands. Police confiscated the weapon and arrested him.

Section 38-237(b)(1) of Thornton's Municipal Code, under which Mapes was booked, reads: "It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly possess on or about the person or within such person's immediate reach any dangerous weapon."

Mapes has lived in the area for nine years and said that he's seen movies in the theater before when he's carried a handgun both concealed and openly visible. He is simply practicing the right to bear arms, he said. He added that he has held a concealed carry permit issued by the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office since 2003, although the Thornton movie theater doesn't reside in Arapahoe County, so the permit doesn't help his case. Thornton is an open-carry municipality, meaning that there are specific exceptions to the above section of the Municipal Code. In certain limited instances, such as a "person's own dwelling or place of business," a person can lawfully carry a weapon so long as it is visible. Arapahoe County, on the other hand, more permissively allows for concealed carry.
"I've had no problems in the past," he told the Post.

When Yahoo! News reached Mapes by phone for comment, Mapes demurred, explaining that he and his attorney needed to confer further on statements to the media.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/colorado-man-arrested-openly-carrying-gun-movie-theater-193011379.html

banksters plundering, war pigs are feasting and the Elders Ministry of Information is going on about these Speilberg stunts

Christian Bale’s first major film role: ‘Empire of the Sun’

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/christian-bale-first-major-film-role-empire-sun-211753002.html

Did Herr Speilberg blow on young Bale's belly?

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on July 31, 2012, 06:05:48 AM
Payback? From whom... in what form?

You believe that [someone other than radical Islamic extremists] did 9/11, huh.


So how's that working out for you so far?

Guess stupid works for you. That and atheism.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: gelignite on July 31, 2012, 06:36:55 AM
Guess stupid works for you. That and atheism.

Yeah. I guess I'm "stupid" enough to believe all of the scientists and structural engineers and forensic experts and eyewitnesses and firefighters and physical evidence, etc., etc., etc.

But not you. You are a special person, aren't you... far too clever to fall for the "official story". You are your own individual thinker, and not a "sheeple" like me, huh.


You just knew it was "the Jews" from Day One, didn't you.

You Internet *sleuth*, you.
Title: - Here We Go - Colorado man arrested for openly carrying gun in movie theater
Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 07:28:46 AM
Almost on cue

Carrying a gun into a theater doesn't exactly put fellow moviegoers at ease, especially if it comes on the heels of a shooting tragedy in the same vicinity. On Sunday night, Thorton, Colo., police arrested James G. Mapes for openly carrying a holstered firearm into a movie theater, according to the Denver Post. The Thornton theater where the arrest took place is only 25 minutes away from the Aurora theater where James Holmes went on a shooting spree killing 12 people and injuring 58; both cinemas are situated in the Denver metropolitan area.

Fifteen minutes into a showing of "The Watch," a movie in which four suburban guys band together to form a neighborhood watch group and save the world from aliens, Mapes recalled that a woman sitting by him "took a cell phone call and then said aloud that someone in the movie complex was seen carrying a gun." Mapes stood up, walked to the lobby, and raised his hands. Police confiscated the weapon and arrested him.

Section 38-237(b)(1) of Thornton's Municipal Code, under which Mapes was booked, reads: "It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly possess on or about the person or within such person's immediate reach any dangerous weapon."

Mapes has lived in the area for nine years and said that he's seen movies in the theater before when he's carried a handgun both concealed and openly visible. He is simply practicing the right to bear arms, he said. He added that he has held a concealed carry permit issued by the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office since 2003, although the Thornton movie theater doesn't reside in Arapahoe County, so the permit doesn't help his case. Thornton is an open-carry municipality, meaning that there are specific exceptions to the above section of the Municipal Code. In certain limited instances, such as a "person's own dwelling or place of business," a person can lawfully carry a weapon so long as it is visible. Arapahoe County, on the other hand, more permissively allows for concealed carry.
"I've had no problems in the past," he told the Post.

When Yahoo! News reached Mapes by phone for comment, Mapes demurred, explaining that he and his attorney needed to confer further on statements to the media.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/colorado-man-arrested-openly-carrying-gun-movie-theater-193011379.html

banksters plundering, war pigs are feasting and the Elders Ministry of Information is going on about these Speilberg stunts

Christian Bale’s first major film role: ‘Empire of the Sun’

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/christian-bale-first-major-film-role-empire-sun-211753002.html

Did Herr Speilberg blow on young Bale's belly?

So what law, exactly, did this guy violate?

I do know that in a lot of areas you CANNOT CARRY AT ALL into a place of business.

I used to just take my firearm in and hand it to whomever was at the counter, so they could store it underneath. Worked for me.

That said, maybe this guy was trying to prevent ANOTHER massacre by carrying self-protection? God forbid, eh?

(By the way, I loved Empire of the Sun, but haven't seen it in ages. Was Bale playing the kid?)

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Post by: bpocatch on July 31, 2012, 07:31:29 AM
Yeah. I guess I'm "stupid" enough to believe all of the scientists and structural engineers and forensic experts and eyewitnesses and firefighters and physical evidence, etc., etc., etc.

name any one of the above. just one
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Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 07:34:15 AM
So where did it go?

Exactly where it was said to have landed. Well, most of it.

The "powers that be" knew what was happening with that jet, and they sent at least one fighter jet after it.

A good friend of mine was on a job that day, on top of the ridge that occurs right before Shanksville. He was waiting outside for his client to show up (who was late), and while waiting he heard a roar and looked up and saw a jet screaming overhead at VERY low altitude. He's also pretty sure he saw another plane, probably one of the F-fighters.

It wasn't five minutes before he claims that a bunch of black SUVs came tearing up and over the hill. They knew it was going to happen, they knew that unless they did damage control that all holy hell would break out over the US Government firing on its own citizens (regardless of circumstances).

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Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 07:35:53 AM

You just knew it was "the Jews" from Day One, didn't you.


Thanks for finally admitting it, you tool.

By the way, looks like your jew-run shrink society is going to end up taking a serious hit for not diagnosing or committing Holmes better.

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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 31, 2012, 08:40:10 AM
Sure we do. Radicalized Islamic extremists.

There really isn't any debate on this still, is there?


I thought those days were long over.


You wish.

"911 - Missing Links"

http://www.911missinglinks.com/

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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 31, 2012, 09:04:33 AM
Gelignite:  "I thought those days were long over."

You wish.

ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS FOR 911 TRUTH

http://www.ae911truth.org/
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Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 09:04:43 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2181025/James-Holmes-Denver-Dark-Knight-killer-paid-prostitute-sex-just-week-massacre.html
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Post by: FrankDialogue on July 31, 2012, 09:09:12 AM
So what law, exactly, did this guy violate?

I do know that in a lot of areas you CANNOT CARRY AT ALL into a place of business.

I used to just take my firearm in and hand it to whomever was at the counter, so they could store it underneath. Worked for me.

That said, maybe this guy was trying to prevent ANOTHER massacre by carrying self-protection? God forbid, eh?


In Philadelphia if you own or manage a business that handles significant amounts of cash, you can carry a firearm and use it to protect person and property.

However if you bring an open carry handgun or automatic weapon into a theatre or other place of entertainment you will be besieged by cops...Common sense, no?

This guy in Aurora had his button pushed by someone me thinks, plus too many anomalies.
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Post by: gelignite on July 31, 2012, 09:41:52 AM
Quote
You just knew it was "the Jews" from Day One, didn't you.

Thanks for finally admitting it, you tool.

No. I'm saying that it was *you* who knew that it was "the Jews" from Day One.

And that's true, isn't it... from the moment the first 'hologram-made-it-appear-as-if-a-plane-was-hitting-the-building', you just knew that "the Jews" were up to their 'slimy-skeems-to-bilk-this-great-'merican-republik', didn't you?


Quote
By the way, looks like your jew-run shrink society is going to end up taking a serious hit for not diagnosing or committing Holmes better.

So Holmes shot up the theater full of people (allegedly, because, according to some people, we don't even know if he was the shooter, or if there was a shooter... or even any victims, for that matter) in spite of the "jew-run shrink society" that was supposed to diagnose and commit him better, and not because of that society.

Gotcha.




Coward.
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Post by: burford on July 31, 2012, 09:42:49 AM
By the way, looks like your jew-run shrink society is going to end up taking a serious hit for not diagnosing or committing Holmes better.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/dr-lynne-fenton-psychiatrist-aurora-shooting-disciplined_n_1723287.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl5%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D186372

Again, the field with the highest rate of drug abuse is the medical profession, and topping the list are psychiatrists.
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Post by: gelignite on July 31, 2012, 09:47:44 AM
name any one of the above. just one

Here:

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/American_Airlines_Flight_77_Crash_Evidence (http://www.911myths.com/index.php/American_Airlines_Flight_77_Crash_Evidence)
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Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 10:25:41 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/dr-lynne-fenton-psychiatrist-aurora-shooting-disciplined_n_1723287.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl5%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D186372

Again, the field with the highest rate of drug abuse is the medical profession, and topping the list are psychiatrists.

That stuff in the article doesn't surprise me.

We think that Holmes was probably tweaking on Prozac (or something very similar). That's one of the ones that's known for making people very strange, violent, and even homicidal or suicidal.

If you read the article I linked above, it tells of one prostitute (of two that were interviewed), that James hired in the past year. She saw him in August and then again in May (which would have been after he had been in psych treatment for awhile). Says the difference is like Jekyll and Hyde.

That's what Prozac does to a lot of folks who can't handle it.

If he was seeing this shrink (not a counselor), then he was definitely on SOME kind of psych meds. That's essentially what they do, write scrip's. Otherwise, you just see a psychologist/counselor if no meds are required.

If she was prescribing this and irresponsibly monitored his response, then she and UofC are in some SERIOUS deep shite.

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Post by: bpocatch on July 31, 2012, 10:33:44 AM
Here:

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/American_Airlines_Flight_77_Crash_Evidence (http://www.911myths.com/index.php/American_Airlines_Flight_77_Crash_Evidence)

Wow you win. It was mean magic mooselimbs.

Paul Begala

Paul Begala, a Democratic consultant, said he witnessed an explosion near the Pentagon. "It was a huge fireball, a huge, orange fireball," he said in an interview on his mobile phone.
He said another witness told him a helicopter exploded.

===

On September 11, 2001, a bunch of mean nasty Arab terrorists -- who hated our freedoms -- hijacked American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 fully loaded with fuel, and crashed it through the first floor of the west side wall of the Pentagon.

(http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/200109114a.jpg)

http://killtown.911review.org/pentalawn.html

"And the plane came through the first floor, right through Naval Ops..." - CNN

"As eyewitnesses described and photographs demonstrate, the hijacked airliner dived so low as it approached the Pentagon that it actually hit the ground first, thereby dissipating much of the energy that might otherwise have caused more extensive damage to the building." - Snopes.com
 
"The plane slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon. The impact was deafening. The fuselage hit the ground and blew up." - Delaware Online
 
"I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball." - James Madison Univ.
 
"Then he caught an edge of his wing on the ground. There is a helicopter pad right in front of the side of the Pentagon. The wing touched there, then the plane cart wheeled into the building." - Time
 
"It is also evident that the plane was on the ground before striking the Pentagon albeit skimming the grass. I might also point out that distant photos will miss details on the ground that up-close observation would show." - Christian Patriots/Pentagon Crash Analysis
 
Patrick Di Justo: "The plane hit the ground first, then slid into the building."  - Paul Boutin weblogger.com

NOT A SCRATCH! THE AMAZING PENTALAWN
!

(http://killtown.911review.org/images/pentalawn/pl8.jpg)

Note the same Holohoax meme, .... yadda yadda scientific evidence and EYE witnesses
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Post by: burford on July 31, 2012, 10:43:54 AM
On September 11, 2001, a bunch of mean nasty Arab terrorists -- who hated our freedoms -- hijacked American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 fully loaded with fuel, and crashed it through the first floor of the west side wall of the Pentagon...

Note the same Holohoax meme, .... yadda yadda scientific evidence and EYE witnesses

But that's what's great about this country - they let us believe in whatever fairytale we want.
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Post by: jewbacca on July 31, 2012, 11:15:23 AM
not enough wreckage anywhere to be convincing and the parts didnt even match.

http://rense.com/general64/wth.htm

http://rense.com/general67/911eng.htm

any actual shootdown makes a pretty big mess as well, didnt happen imho.

why flush perfectly good planes when they can be repainted and sold?
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Post by: gelignite on July 31, 2012, 12:40:31 PM
Wow you win. It was mean magic mooselimbs.

Imagine the time we could save if you accepted this as a 'given'.

Quote
http://killtown.911review.org/pentalawn.html

"And the plane came through the first floor, right through Naval Ops..." - CNN

"As eyewitnesses described and photographs demonstrate, the hijacked airliner dived so low as it approached the Pentagon that it actually hit the ground first, thereby dissipating much of the energy that might otherwise have caused more extensive damage to the building." - Snopes.com
 
"The plane slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon. The impact was deafening. The fuselage hit the ground and blew up." - Delaware Online
 
"I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball." - James Madison Univ.
 
"Then he caught an edge of his wing on the ground. There is a helicopter pad right in front of the side of the Pentagon. The wing touched there, then the plane cart wheeled into the building." - Time
 
"It is also evident that the plane was on the ground before striking the Pentagon albeit skimming the grass. I might also point out that distant photos will miss details on the ground that up-close observation would show." - Christian Patriots/Pentagon Crash Analysis
 
Patrick Di Justo: "The plane hit the ground first, then slid into the building."  - Paul Boutin weblogger.com

No sure what's your point here. All of these witnesses do indicate that the plane hit the building.
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Post by: gelignite on July 31, 2012, 12:41:30 PM
not enough wreckage anywhere to be convincing and the parts didnt even match.

http://rense.com/general64/wth.htm

http://rense.com/general67/911eng.htm

Debunked.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml (http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml)
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Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 12:41:47 PM
not enough wreckage anywhere to be convincing and the parts didnt even match.

http://rense.com/general64/wth.htm

http://rense.com/general67/911eng.htm

any actual shootdown makes a pretty big mess as well, didnt happen imho.

why flush perfectly good planes when they can be repainted and sold?

Wow. You're really ignorant.

Why "flush" the OTHER THREE PERFECTLY GOOD PLANES, then?

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Post by: jacob gold on July 31, 2012, 12:44:51 PM
Here:

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/American_Airlines_Flight_77_Crash_Evidence (http://www.911myths.com/index.php/American_Airlines_Flight_77_Crash_Evidence)


Please - don't be silly. Are you saying that the Pentagon jet flew for 62 minutes, and then outflew 400 plus fighters. Where was Norfolks jets, or the six other fields stationed there? Fl 77 flew over five nuclear reactors.

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Post by: burford on July 31, 2012, 12:52:19 PM
Boy, sure glad no one brought up an unrelated topic on this thread. I'd hate to see us get distracted.
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Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 01:08:28 PM
Boy, sure glad no one brought up an unrelated topic on this thread. I'd hate to see us get distracted.

How did 9/11 get brought up in the first place?

Anybody want to address my points about Holmes and his psyche history?

Thanks.


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Post by: jewbacca on July 31, 2012, 01:11:18 PM
youre a shill and an egomaniac, nothing kosher about that.
your endless prattle is very tedious.
show me some wreckage that matches up.
all 4 planes are probably in africa or someplace.
that's money in the bank for the greedheads
plus it ups their orgasmic chutzpah quotient,
you know all about that eh?
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 31, 2012, 01:22:02 PM
youre a shill and an egomaniac, nothing kosher about that.
your endless prattle is very tedious.
show me some wreckage that matches up.
all 4 planes are probably in africa or someplace.
that's money in the bank for the greedheads
plus it ups their orgasmic chutzpah quotient,
you know all about that eh?

Please ppl... quote. All this is already confusing enough.

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Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 01:24:34 PM
I'll repeat:

Anybody want to address my points about Holmes and his psyche history? (And that of his supposed "docs").

Thanks.



BTW, "shill," my ass. Get fucked.
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Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 01:26:26 PM

all 4 planes are probably in africa or someplace.


Got some proof?

I don't believe the official. 09.11.01 story anymore than you probably do, just have a different angle.

Africa? Now, YOU really need to show us some "proof."
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Post by: gelignite on July 31, 2012, 01:27:07 PM
Anybody want to address my points about Holmes and his psyche history?

Sounds like you're suggesting that the "jew-run shrink society" failed him somewhere down the line.
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Post by: bpocatch on July 31, 2012, 01:34:24 PM
Boy, sure glad no one brought up an unrelated topic on this thread. I'd hate to see us get distracted.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/30l31xt.jpg)

just kidding
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Post by: bpocatch on July 31, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
Imagine the time we could save if you accepted this as a 'given'.

Sure show some science.  Like a a body killed from z germans gas,  Or the serial number tag of the engines of the planes that hit Somerset and the pentagon.


No sure what's your point here. All of these witnesses do indicate that the plane hit the building.

Lets take one

"Then he caught an edge of his wing on the ground. There is a helicopter pad right in front of the side of the Pentagon. The wing touched there, then the plane cart wheeled into the building." - Time

See the no plane penalawn link

okay back on topic

Oooh spooky:

James Eagen Holmes Shown In Science Camp Video When He Was 18, Discussing 'Temporal Illusions. A 6-year-old video shows Colorado shooting suspect James Holmes as a thin teenager wearing an oversized shirt and occasionally breaking into a slight, shy smile.

ABC News aired the video Sunday showing Holmes speaking at a science camp at Miramar College in San Diego when he was 18.

His presentation is on "temporal illusion," which he defines as "an illusion that allows you to change the past."

He says he studies subjective experience, calling it "what takes place inside the mind, as opposed to the external world."

A woman who introduces Holmes says he wants to become a researcher and make scientific discoveries.

She says his dream is to own a Slurpee machine, eliciting laughter from the audience and a smile from Holmes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lotOPjLlbDU
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Post by: gelignite on July 31, 2012, 02:56:30 PM
Sure show some science.  Like... the serial number tag of the engines of the planes that hit Somerset and the pentagon.

Would you least agree that they came from the type of plane that is said to have crashed in those locations?

Quote
Lets take one

"Then he caught an edge of his wing on the ground. There is a helicopter pad right in front of the side of the Pentagon. The wing touched there, then the plane cart wheeled into the building." - Time

See the no plane penalawn link

Still not sure what is the thrust here. Are you saying that these witnesses were wrong about the wing (or any other part of the plane) skidding on the lawn?


Meanwhile, another excellent debunking of batsh*t lunacy here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1)
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Post by: bpocatch on July 31, 2012, 03:29:45 PM
Would you least agree that they came from the type of plane that is said to have crashed in those locations?

Cannot was not there.  No oath means the witnesses statements are hearsay.  The last video I saw live with a CNN reporter where he said it does not look like a plane crashed here.

Do you affirm or deny that FBI has videos tapes of multiple cameras that would show without a doubt what happened?

Still not sure what is the thrust here. Are you saying that these witnesses were wrong about the wing (or any other part of the plane) skidding on the lawn?
 

Do you affirm or deny looking at the picture above and see no, zero nada damage the lawn this proving the wing and tumbling plane article by TIME is a pure fabrication.

No thanks more internet hearsay has no interest to me.
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on July 31, 2012, 05:11:02 PM
(http://rense.com/general95/Colorado%20Movie%20Massacre_Jam.jpg)
Yes, Werewolf was the first one to bring this up.
The guy in court (the stand in) is a COP.
The real Holmes is being interrogated in the basement of the Pentagon.
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 31, 2012, 05:19:19 PM
Yes, interesting, FHR.  The eye colour appears to be quite different too, doesn't it?
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Post by: burford on July 31, 2012, 06:25:08 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/30l31xt.jpg)

 ;D
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Post by: OldTimes on July 31, 2012, 07:09:59 PM
Would you least agree that they came from the type of plane that is said to have crashed in those locations?

Still not sure what is the thrust here. Are you saying that these witnesses were wrong about the wing (or any other part of the plane) skidding on the lawn?

Asking hot-button questions on a subject completely non-related to this thread.  You know lies demand responses and you want to keep this conversation going.  I know what it is you are doing, and it amounts to trolling.
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Post by: gelignite on July 31, 2012, 07:10:55 PM
No oath means the witnesses statements are hearsay.

Uhm... That's not what hearsay means.

Quote
Do you affirm or deny that FBI has videos tapes of multiple cameras that would show without a doubt what happened?

No.
 
Quote
Do you affirm or deny looking at the picture above and see no, zero nada damage the lawn this proving the wing and tumbling plane article by TIME is a pure fabrication.

No.
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Post by: gelignite on July 31, 2012, 07:17:29 PM
Asking hot-button questions on a subject completely non-related to this thread.  You know lies demand responses and you want to keep this conversation going.  I know what it is you are doing, and it amounts to trolling.

I didn't introduce the subject into this thread. Somebody else did that.

But as it is somewhat off-topic, I'll drop it.


Unless, of course, someone would like to start a new thread.
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Post by: Railroad Bum on July 31, 2012, 07:32:18 PM
I didn't introduce the subject into this thread. Somebody else did that.

But as it is somewhat off-topic, I'll drop it.


Unless, of course, someone would like to start a new thread.

There are already plenty of threads on the joint Israeli-USSA false flag 911 terror attacks.



ww
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Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 10:46:52 PM
Asking hot-button questions on a subject completely non-related to this thread.  You know lies demand responses and you want to keep this conversation going.  I know what it is you are doing, and it amounts to trolling.

Yay! for that. I'm tired of feeling deja vu all over again like it's 2006 and Jelly is still being the same trolling jew.

Back to our regularly scheduled thread. OK, anybody going to get down with me on the psychological state of Holmes?

He's got two prostitutes on record now saying that he was acting entirely strange and/or violent in the month or so before the massacre. Considering what a loner Holmes is, they may very well be the only people with whom he had physical contact, other than his schoolmates.

Do not underestimate the destruction that can occur when you combine paranoid schizophrenia with misprescribed psychotropic meds.



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Post by: dominique on July 31, 2012, 10:56:10 PM
(http://rense.com/general95/Colorado%20Movie%20Massacre_Jam.jpg)

I've had a lot of issues with the way that this kid looks so different in each photo and/or video we have of him.

However, if you take and boil it down to a composite, you can see the similarity.

The color in the student ID photo is completely off, but that's not unusual considering the low-grade equipment they use.

Here is the photo (utterly demonic looking as it is) that brings them all together:

(http://whyamericansaredumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/james-holmes-adult-friendfinder-pictures.jpg)


Please don't underestimate how much somebody can change when their mind has become completely fucked (either naturally, or from mind manipulation and/or psychotropics).

What happened to this kid physically is something we all need to see, just to grasp how badly he went off the chain. I am disgusted that they are no longer showing courtroom footage of him. Anybody who could exist in a virtual social "vacuum," like this kid did, and plan and execute and boil over, needs to be put up for everyone to see, all day, every day. Should have a webcam broadcasting him 24/7 like they would have done with Hannibal Lechter.






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Post by: gelignite on August 01, 2012, 12:12:34 AM
Yay! for that. I'm tired of feeling deja vu all over again like it's 2006 and Jelly is still being the same trolling jew.

Please make some use out of the one or two marbles you still have rolling 'round in your head and at least try to make a passing attempt at getting your facts straight. Anyone reading the thread can see that it wasn't me who dragged the subject of 9/11 into it. Someone else did that, and it was after several posts full of the usual nonsense (including one or two submitted by you) that I said a word about it. And if it is true that, as OldTimes asserts, "lies demand responses", then I would submit that such was all that I was doing - responding to the usual, long-debunked falsehoods that have been repeated on this forum since 2006.

In fact, if anyone was the subject of trolling, I'd say it was *me* as I once again found myself getting sucked into the same, tired-ass 9/11 discussion of which I, too, have grown weary over the years. I saw the usual crap being put up, and I somehow felt compelled to respond to it. In hindsight I wish I'd simply let it drift.

In any event, I'm dropping it now, not only because it is decidedly off-topic for this thread, but also because I, too, am feeling that same nauseating sense of deja vu to which you've alluded.

Quote
Back to our regularly scheduled thread.

Yes.

Quote
Do not underestimate the destruction that can occur when you combine paranoid schizophrenia with misprescribed psychotropic meds.

So are you suggesting that correctly prescribed psychotropic meds might have alleviated Holmes's symptoms and prevented the destruction that occurred?

I'm not so sure. I think it's possible that Holmes was beyond the help that any "shrink" could have provided, as evidenced by the severity of the outward manifestations of his illness. I wouldn't be the least surprised if it is eventually discovered that some physiological anomaly played a role.

Ala Charles Whitman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman)
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Post by: bpocatch on August 01, 2012, 02:28:11 AM
Uhm... That's not what hearsay means.

Theory of The Hearsay Rule

The theory of the rule excluding hearsay is that assertions made by human beings are often unreliable; such statements are often insincere, subject to flaws in memory and perception, or infected with errors in narration at the time they are given. Furthermore, someone testifying in court regarding another's out-of-court statement may have misheard or misremembered that statement, in addition to possibly having misinterpreted the speaker's sincerity, etc. The law therefore finds it necessary to subject this form of evidence to “scrutiny or analysis calculated to discover and expose in detail its possible weaknesses, and thus to enable the tribunal (judge or jury) to estimate it at no more than its actual value”.[3]
Three tests are calculated to expose possible weaknesses in a statement:
Assertions must be taken under oath
Assertions must be made in front of the tribunal (judge or jury)
Assertions must be subject to cross-examination.

Federal Rules of Evidence - assertions in court iaw under oath, front of judge, cross examintion

Holohoaxers, Zionist deniers, and 911 Falsers are all based on hearsay

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Post by: gelignite on August 01, 2012, 05:23:14 AM
Three tests are calculated to expose possible weaknesses in a statement:
Assertions must be taken under oath
Assertions must be made in front of the tribunal (judge or jury)
Assertions must be subject to cross-examination.

I was thinking along the lines of "hearsay" and its general application in the court of public opinion (which is the one currently in session) where no one on either side is under oath, but fine. For the purpose of discussion, I'll stand corrected.

But then, this would also mean that you are a liar. Because, contrary to what you said earlier, you are obviously VERY interested in "Internet hearsay" (i.e., statements not taken under oath)  - when you think that it supports your opinion.

Quote
Holohoaxers, Zionist deniers, and 911 Falsers are all based on hearsay

To no more extent than that of Holocaust deniers and batshit loonball conspiracy theory kooks.


Obviously.
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Post by: burford on August 01, 2012, 05:53:57 AM
Quote
... batshit loonball conspiracy theory kooks.

Iraq had WMDs...

Jews have always been persecuted...

6 million...

etc...
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Post by: gelignite on August 01, 2012, 07:51:32 AM
Iraq had WMDs...

Jews have always been persecuted...

6 million...

etc...

Jews did 9/11...

Jews did Aurora...

Jews cause earthquakes...

etc...
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Post by: Railroad Bum on August 01, 2012, 08:04:15 AM
I've had a lot of issues with the way that this kid looks so different in each photo and/or video we have of him.

However, if you take and boil it down to a composite, you can see the similarity.

The color in the student ID photo is completely off, but that's not unusual considering the low-grade equipment they use.

...


I'm undecided about all this.  Probably the same, but...don't the eyebrows and the nose/nostril and some other bits look different? 
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: OldTimes on August 01, 2012, 08:13:05 AM
Jews cause earthquakes...

As far as I know, no one here said this.  It has been speculated, and the consensus was that some success has been achieved at being able to predict earthquakes.

In your book, anyone who doesn't accept the official story at face-value given to us by jewish mainstream media is a "batshit loonball conspiracy theory kook".  We should all stop thinking and start trying to be 'cool' so that you can accept us.
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Post by: burford on August 01, 2012, 09:27:42 AM
Jews did 9/11...

Jews did Aurora...

Jews cause earthquakes...

etc...

Whether or not Jews did 911, Aurora, or cause quakes, the 'batshit loonball conspiracy theory kooks' who believed that Iraq had WMDs have invaded sovereign nations and killed more than a million innocent civilians and more than 4 thousand Americans.

I wonder which group of kooks would be considered more maniacal.
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Post by: Sue on August 01, 2012, 10:40:03 AM
Whether or not Jews did 911, Aurora, or cause quakes, the 'batshit loonball conspiracy theory kooks' who believed that Iraq had WMDs have invaded sovereign nations and killed more than a million innocent civilians and more than 4 thousand Americans.

I wonder which group of kooks would be considered more maniacal.

Angels play HAAARP and the 'Ignited One' plays stupid. Don't feed him. Problem solved! ;D
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Railroad Bum on August 01, 2012, 10:49:43 AM
Jews did 9/11...

Jews did Aurora...

Jews cause earthquakes...

etc...

"Jews did 9/11..."

Absolutely.  100%.  No question about it.

Israel did 9/11, ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD!!


http://www.pakalertpress.com/2010/07/28/israel-did-911-all-the-proof-in-the-world/


Dr Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at the US Army War College:  "The military knows that Israel did 911.  It is 100% certain that 911 was a Mossad operation - period."


"911 - Missing Links"

http://www.911missinglinks.com/









"Jews did Aurora..."



Do you think so? 











"Jews cause earthquakes..."

Now you're just trying to do schtick.









ww





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Post by: dominique on August 02, 2012, 08:37:08 AM
This is brilliant.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1124048.1343684923!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/billboard29n-1-web.jpg)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/idaho-billboard-compares-president-obama-aurora-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-article-1.1124049
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 04, 2012, 10:40:19 PM
This is brilliant.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1124048.1343684923!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/billboard29n-1-web.jpg)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/idaho-billboard-compares-president-obama-aurora-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-article-1.1124049

Well, that didn't last long, did it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/04/obama-james-holmes-billboard_n_1742254.html

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on August 05, 2012, 03:03:09 PM
Well, that didn't last long, did it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/04/obama-james-holmes-billboard_n_1742254.html

Indeed.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Railroad Bum on August 05, 2012, 05:21:37 PM
This is brilliant.

...


Yes it is, but it should read tens, or hundreds, of thousands.
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Post by: dominique on August 05, 2012, 06:05:39 PM

Yes it is, but it should read tens, or hundreds, of thousands.

Or "millions," really.

Anyway, you get the point.

Apparently, so did Obama's thugs, and that's why it's being taken down.


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Post by: laconas on August 05, 2012, 06:19:11 PM
This is brilliant.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1124048.1343684923!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/billboard29n-1-web.jpg)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/idaho-billboard-compares-president-obama-aurora-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-article-1.1124049

It is brilliant and we'll be seeing more like these as time goes on. America First right before WWII had similar public sentiments until Pearl Harbor.
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Post by: OldTimes on August 05, 2012, 09:19:25 PM
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1124048.1343684923!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/billboard29n-1-web.jpg)

I wonder if the cameras on either side of the platform are significant?
Could be hooked up to software to interpret reactions and facial responses, on the other hand probably just traffic cameras.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Vidarr on August 07, 2012, 12:20:18 PM
Here's an interesting turn of events

“Robert Holmes, the shooting suspect’s father, is a senior lead scientist with FICO, the American credit score company. He was scheduled to testify in the next few weeks before a US Senate panel that is investigating the largest bank fraud scandal in world history. This banking fraud threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.”
 
“Robert Holmes not only uncovered the true intent of the massive LIBOR banking fraud, but his ‘predictive algorithm model’ also traced the trillions of ‘hidden’ dollars to the exact bank accounts of the elite classes who stole it. In other words, Robert Holmes could NAME NAMES! Those names WOULD AWAKEN THE WORLD to the depth of government and corporate corruption which could include members of Congress, Wall Street, Federal Reserve and EU executives and could even include US Presidential candidates and the British Royal family.”
 
One source describes the Libor Scandal as follows: “The Libor scandal is a series of fraudulent actions connected to the Libor (London Interbank Offered Rate) and the resulting investigation and reaction. The Libor is an average interest rate calculated through submissions of interest rates by major banks in London. Libor underpins approximately $350 trillion in derivatives. It is controlled by the British Bankers’ Association (BBA).”


http://incogman.net/08/2012/holmes-dad-key-witness-in-huge-banking-scandal/#more-87568 (http://incogman.net/08/2012/holmes-dad-key-witness-in-huge-banking-scandal/#more-87568)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: curiousity on August 07, 2012, 01:07:24 PM
So now, the jew's daddy was gonna "rat-out" fellow jews using banking wire fraud algorithims,
and "the tribe" just drugged-up poor jimmy, and a mossad strike
force shot up the theatre, and then....a team of RELOCATED mossad double agent Aurora cops
that handled NYPD intelligence operations for the Rudy Guiliani guido mamzer during 9/11,
concealed the soft target operation, to pull this jew uncle tom from witness testimony before jew congress, about banking wire fraud algorithims he discovered in world economy banking demolition.


http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-holmes/4/47b/24a
(http://m3.licdn.com/mpr/pub/image-e-d6nh-c_SLNl2JIx7zPDtGTvJYI-Ct2VH8k747cv6d7-Z4Qe-dksTucvevwzkMKTYmx/robert-holmes.jpg)

Robert Holmes's Overview
Current Senior Lead Scientist at Fair Isaac
Past Senior Staff Scientist at HNC Software, Inc.
Education University of California, Berkeley
Stanford University
University of California, Los Angeles
Connections 111 connections
Robert Holmes' Summary
My educational background is in Mathematics and Statistics. My experience over the last 10 years at HNC and FICO has been in develping predictive models for financial services; credit & fraud risk models,first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.
Management Experience: I am currently managing a team building Falcon Fraud Manager Credit card fraud models. I have also managed teams in the Telco and Identity Theft fraud areas.

Specialties
Experience with a variety of programming languages: Perl, SAS, JAVA, C, C++ and shell scripting languages
Operating systems: UNIX, Linux and Windows

Robert Holmes' Experience
Senior Lead Scientist Fair Isaac
Public Company; 1001-5000 employees; FICO; Computer Software industry

2002 – Present (10 years)

Statistical Modeling / Data Mining: Developed statistical models for a variety of Fair Isaac products including Telco Fraud/Risk Manager, Falcon ID and Falcon Online Access. Also familiar with other FI products including Falcon Fraud Manager and Falcon Fraud Manager for Merchants. Currently managing a Falcon Fraud Manager Credit Team.

Senior Staff Scientist HNC Software, Inc.
Public Company; 1001-5000 employees; HNCS; Computer Software industry

2000 – 2002 (2 years)

Robert Holmes' Education
University of California, Berkeley Ph.D., Statistics
1976 – 1981


Stanford University BS, Mathematics
1969 – 1973


University of California, Los Angeles MA, MS, Mathematics, Biostatistics

Robert Holmes' Additional Information

American Statistical Association

 HNC Software Alumni  San Diego Analytics Professionals 





OK.
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Post by: jacob gold on August 07, 2012, 03:02:51 PM
Mark Greene runs 'Fair-Issac'

(http://cedbackinblack.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/mark_greene.jpg)



This company is all jews, except for the janitors
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: curiousity on August 07, 2012, 03:35:06 PM
Mark Greene runs 'Fair-Issac'

(http://cedbackinblack.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/mark_greene.jpg)



This company is all jews, except for the janitors

So what are you saying Jake?
I'm sure this incogman site, and the article painting jimmy's daddy,
as a white phd scientst into exposing fraud in jewish banking algorithims, is accurate.
http://incogman.net/08/2012/holmes-dad-key-witness-in-huge-banking-scandal/#more-87568

So what are you saying Jake?
Are you not going to donate money to incogman?
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6906/incogmandonations.jpg)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: bpocatch on August 07, 2012, 05:39:12 PM
Here's an interesting turn of events

“Robert Holmes, the shooting suspect’s father, is a senior lead scientist with FICO, the American credit score company. He was scheduled to testify in the next few weeks before a US Senate panel that is investigating the largest bank fraud scandal in world history. This banking fraud threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.”
 
“Robert Holmes not only uncovered the true intent of the massive LIBOR banking fraud, but his ‘predictive algorithm model’ also traced the trillions of ‘hidden’ dollars to the exact bank accounts of the elite classes who stole it. In other words, Robert Holmes could NAME NAMES! Those names WOULD AWAKEN THE WORLD to the depth of government and corporate corruption which could include members of Congress, Wall Street, Federal Reserve and EU executives and could even include US Presidential candidates and the British Royal family.”
 

Incogman is such a player.   Chosen and kneegro fighter he has access to ultra top secret bankster information.

And just like batman they could not just shoot him no they needed to torture his son in public.
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Post by: dominique on August 07, 2012, 05:42:19 PM
Here's an interesting turn of events

“Robert Holmes, the shooting suspect’s father, is a senior lead scientist with FICO, the American credit score company. He was scheduled to testify in the next few weeks before a US Senate panel that is investigating the largest bank fraud scandal in world history. This banking fraud threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.”
 
“Robert Holmes not only uncovered the true intent of the massive LIBOR banking fraud, but his ‘predictive algorithm model’ also traced the trillions of ‘hidden’ dollars to the exact bank accounts of the elite classes who stole it. In other words, Robert Holmes could NAME NAMES! Those names WOULD AWAKEN THE WORLD to the depth of government and corporate corruption which could include members of Congress, Wall Street, Federal Reserve and EU executives and could even include US Presidential candidates and the British Royal family.”
 
One source describes the Libor Scandal as follows: “The Libor scandal is a series of fraudulent actions connected to the Libor (London Interbank Offered Rate) and the resulting investigation and reaction. The Libor is an average interest rate calculated through submissions of interest rates by major banks in London. Libor underpins approximately $350 trillion in derivatives. It is controlled by the British Bankers’ Association (BBA).”


http://incogman.net/08/2012/holmes-dad-key-witness-in-huge-banking-scandal/#more-87568 (http://incogman.net/08/2012/holmes-dad-key-witness-in-huge-banking-scandal/#more-87568)

Been reading about Daddy Holmes's connection to the Libor scandal for awhile. Certainly does give credibility to the idea that what happened to James could happen to ANYONE (or their family) who wants to rat out the banksters.


Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 07, 2012, 05:45:00 PM
It is brilliant and we'll be seeing more like these as time goes on. America First right before WWII had similar public sentiments until Pearl Harbor.

Looks like YT is finally getting fed up, and rightfully so. First Zimmerman (not really white,  but you know..), then this kid undoubtedly got passed over for jobs etc for MWBs, now we have the pissed off guy shooting up the Sikh temple...
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Post by: jacob gold on August 07, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
Quote
So what are you saying Jake?

I am saying that Holmes father worked at a 'Jewy-Jew' company. I have no idea what incognitoman is saying
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on August 07, 2012, 07:35:34 PM
Second Dark Knight Rises shooting foiled?

Published: 07 August, 2012, 21:59
source: http://rt.com/usa/news/dark-knight-ohio-arrest-087/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/dark-knight-ohio-arrest-087/)

(http://rt.com/files/usa/news/dark-knight-ohio-arrest-087/theater-memorial-aurora-colorado.n.jpg)
United States, Aurora: People continue to visit the roadside memorial
set up for victims of the Colorado theater shooting massacre across
the street from Century 16 movie theater July 29, 2012 in Aurora, Colorado.
(AFP Photo / Kevork Djansezian)


United States, Aurora: People continue to visit the roadside memorial set up for victims of the Colorado theater shooting massacre across the street from Century 16 movie theater July 29, 2012 in Aurora, Colorado. (AFP Photo / Kevork Djansezian)
TRENDS: Colorado theater shooting

TAGS: Movies, Arms, Crime, USA, Police, Security

A 37-year-old Ohio man has been arrested after bringing a gun, two loaded magazines and several knives to a night-time showing of “The Dark Knight Rises.”

Police in the Cleveland area town of Westlake say the suspect, Scott A. Smith, caught the attention of the theater manager after carrying a satchel to the 10 pm showing of the latest Batman film on Saturday. The manager and an off-duty police officer working security that night at the Regal Cinema found the weapons after checking the moviegoer’s satchel. A search warrant was issued for Smith’s home on Monday evening and he was arrested without incident. Police say approximately eight rifles and handguns, as well as "survivalist gear" such as gas masks and bulletproof vests were found at Smith’s home.

Lt. Ray Arcuri said police don’t know why Smith came to the theater armed, but had decided to err on the side of caution.

"After Colorado anything is possible," Arcuri told the Plain Dealer daily. "When you consider the movie he was going to and what happened in Colorado, you have to wonder what would make him want to bring the weapons into that particular film. Our police officer did a great job spotting him."

Americans have been on guard at showings of The Dark Knight Rises following the mass July 20 shootings by James Holmes in Aurora, Colorado, that left 12 dead and 58 wounded.

Arcuri said Smith came half an hour early and was “the only person in there.”

"Bullins [the off-duty officer] looked inside and saw a loaded Glock 9 millimeter handgun, two fully loaded magazine clips, three knives in the bag and one on his person," Arcuri said. "When Bullins asked why he carried the weapons into the theater, the man said, 'No problem. I'll put them in my car.' But it was too late for that."

Smith, who has a wife and a young daughter, has no criminal record and briefly served in the military. He is being held without bail and faces charges of carrying concealed weapons and three other weapons offenses.

Smith has thus far refused to speak with police.

LW - The gun grabbers are on a roll. That or he came prepared.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 09, 2012, 12:25:24 PM
Joker case gagged: Media fight Colorado court ban

Published: 09 August, 2012, 15:13
source: http://rt.com/usa/news/lawyers-gag-colorado-killings-239/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/lawyers-gag-colorado-killings-239/)

(http://rt.com/files/usa/news/lawyers-gag-colorado-killings-239/first-aurora-defender-appearance.n.jpg)
James Eagan Holmes (L) sits with public defender Tamara Brady
during his first court appearance in Aurora, Colorado, July 23, 2012
(Reuters / RJ Sangosti / Pool)


Attorneys representing media outlets are in court to push for the publication of files concerning the Colorado cinema murders. The judge put a gag on the files at the behest of prosecutors, but the press argues the public has a right to see them.


The decision to seal the documents off from public access "undermines our nation's firm commitment to the transparency and public accountability of the criminal justice system," said media lawyer Steven Zansberg in a written statement.

The Associated Press along with 20 other news agencies is appealing for the dissemination of the documents in court this Thursday.

Judge William Sylvester closed the case on July 20 at the request of the prosecutors, who claim that releasing the files could potentially jeopardize the case investigation. The move sparked a wave of protest from the media, saying the public had a right to see the documents.

Press attorneys argue that the explanation given for the sealing of the files is not adequate and needs to be elaborated on if the bar is to remain in place. In most court cases in the US the documents pertaining to the trial are available to the public. However, exceptions are made if files obstruct an ongoing police investigation or encroach on the privacy of family members of the victims.

The files in question include the affidavits the police would have filled in before defendant James Holmes was arrested, detailing why officers thought that he was the murderer. The bar on the documents makes it impossible for observers to follow the arguments put forward by the defense and the prosecution during the trial because they reference the files by number only.

Judge Sylvester has also classified the court docket, preventing observers from seeing any documents filed in connection with the case.

“We don't know how many other documents are in the court file because there is no public docket," said Zansberg

Gregory Moore, editor of The Denver Post, said the gag order “goes way beyond what's necessary to protect the defendant's right to a fair trial.”

“It is performing our watchdog role to look at the process and try to assess for the public how the police have handled the case and assembled the evidence and assure for the defendant and the public that things are being conducted open and fairly,'' he told AP.

There is still comparatively little information on how James Holmes prepared for the cinema shootings in July. In addition, it is not known how he managed to transform his apartment into a veritable deathtrap, rigging up explosive poised to kill any intruders.

The 24-year-old neuroscience graduate is charged on multiple accounts of first-degree murder and attempted murder. He opened fire on movie-goers attending a showing of the new Batman film on July 20, killing 12 people and injuring a further 58.

Holmes has been uncooperative with investigators, remaining relatively silent during court proceedings.

The US authorities believe that Holmes had assumed the identity of Batman villain “the Joker” in order to commit the killings. During the police search of his apartment officers reportedly found Batman-related paraphernalia.

Judge Sylvester has set a pre-trial hearing for September 27 and a preliminary hearing for November 13. If Holmes is found guilty he could face the death penalty.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 09, 2012, 02:02:26 PM
Colo. shooting suspect James Holmes' lawyers: He's mentally ill

(AP) CENTENNIAL, Colo. - Attorneys for the suspect in the Colorado movie theater shootings said Thursday their client is mentally ill and that they need more time to assess the nature of his illness.

James Holmes' lawyers made the disclosure at a court hearing in suburban Denver where news media organizations were asking a judge to unseal court documents in the case.

Holmes, a 24-year-old former Ph.D. student at the University of Colorado, Denver, had the familiar, dazed demeanor that he has had in previous court appearances.

Holmes is accused of going on a July 20 shooting rampage at a midnight showing of the latest Batman movie in Aurora, killing 12 people dead and injuring 58 others.

Defense attorney Daniel King made the revelation about Holmes as he argued defense attorneys need more information from prosecutors and investigators to assess their client.

"We cannot begin to assess the nature and the depth of Mr. Holmes' mental illness until we receive full disclosure," he said.

King said Holmes sought out university psychiatrist, Lynne Fenton, for help. He did not elaborate. A hearing was scheduled for Aug. 16 to establish whether there is a doctor-patient relationship between Fenton and Holmes.

The hearing was held because CBS News, the Associated Press, and 19 other news organizations are asking Chief District Judge William Sylvester to make available documents that could provide details about Holmes and the July 20 attack.

Holmes did not have to be in court, CBS news correspondent John Blackstone reports, but his lawyers made no requests to have his presence waived.

Colo. suspect was psychiatric patient: Defense
Watch: What's next for James Holmes?
Watch: James Holmes appears "dazed" in court

Arapahoe County prosecutors said earlier that releasing documents could jeopardize their investigation. Holmes' attorneys want to ensure he receives a fair trial.

Sylvester's order sealing documents includes the case file, which makes it impossible for observers to understand prosecution and defense arguments on motions that are referenced by number only.

Sylvester on July 23 also issued a gag order that bars officials at the University of Colorado from responding to public records requests concerning Holmes.

The judge said doing so would jeopardize the county's investigation. Aurora officials have cited the order in declining to speak about the city's response to the shootings.

"It is performing our watchdog role to look at the process and try to assess for the public how the police have handled the case and assembled the evidence and assure for the defendant and the public that things are being conducted open and fairly," said Gregory Moore, editor of The Denver Post. "It goes way beyond what's necessary to protect the defendant's right to a fair trial."

Court documents, which include search warrants, inventories of evidence collected by police and police interviews with witnesses can be an important source of information for the public.

Little is known about how police say Holmes prepared for the shooting, or how they say he rigged his nearby apartment with explosives. Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates has said the explosives were designed to kill anybody who entered, including first-responders.

Steven D. Zansberg, an attorney representing the news media consortium, said the judge should at least explain which documents have been sealed and why.

In Colorado, this type of legal battle has been seen before.

In 2007, an Arapahoe County judge sealed an indictment in the case of a missing 6-year-old girl whom authorities determined had been dead for at least two years before her father, Aaron Thompson, reported her missing. The state Supreme Court ordered the indictment unsealed in 2008, allowing the public to learn the charges against Thompson. Thompson was convicted of fatal child abuse in 2009.

When Los Angeles Lakers player Kobe Bryant faced sexual assault charges in Vail in 2003, it took a media challenge to unseal an affidavit in which police laid out their case for an arrest. Bryant maintained his innocence, and prosecutors dropped the case in 2005.

A news media challenge led to last year's release of an arrest affidavit in a sexual assault case involving former Denver Broncos cornerback Perrish Cox. Cox was acquitted in March.

Defense attorneys and prosecutors routinely ask judges to keep some documents sealed, often because the documents contain information a jury won't hear at trial, said Denver criminal defense attorney Daniel Recht, who also argues First Amendment cases.

But Moore noted that some Colorado judges have sealed entire court dockets under the argument that the mere fact of media coverage will damage a case.

In his ruling to unseal documents in the Cox case, Douglas County District Judge Paul A. King rejected that notion. "There can be no presumption that everyone in the jury panel will read, follow and find important the media accounts in this case," King wrote.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57490413/colo-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-lawyers-hes-mentally-ill/
________________

comment: No surprises here. Question, though; has Holmes yet been evaluated by the shrinks in the criminal justice system? Or just how did the defense come to the conclusion he is mentally ill? (which I don't doubt, btw)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 09, 2012, 08:05:13 PM

"Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened. You can lock them away... forever." - The Joker, Batman: The Killing Joke


 :o
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on August 09, 2012, 09:50:49 PM
Arapahoe County prosecutors said earlier that releasing documents could jeopardize their investigation.

It would definitely ruin the cover up.

Going the 'mental' rout will ensure the truth will never come out. We certainly will not know whether he was the shooter or just another patsy.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 09, 2012, 10:37:00 PM


Going the 'mental' rout will ensure the truth will never come out. We certainly will not know whether he was the shooter or just another patsy.

I've been wondering if that "package" Holmes supposedly sent his shrink might be something that UofC and the dot.gov want to cover up because maybe, just maybe, (assuming he really did write and send such a thing, for the moment), he actually was trying to tell her something. Something that UofC and the .gov wouldn't like the general public to know. So, they invoke HIPAA for a coverup.

It's seeming more and more like Holmes' mental state is the result of his being a victim of some kind of experimentation to do with his course of study. You know, the price paid for hundreds of thou in tuition, plus living stipend. = Human Guinea Pig.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: wag on August 10, 2012, 05:38:14 AM
I've been wondering if that "package" Holmes supposedly sent his shrink might be something that UofC and the dot.gov want to cover up because maybe, just maybe, (assuming he really did write and send such a thing, for the moment), he actually was trying to tell her something. Something that UofC and the .gov wouldn't like the general public to know. So, they invoke HIPAA for a coverup.

It's seeming more and more like Holmes' mental state is the result of his being a victim of some kind of experimentation to do with his course of study. You know, the price paid for hundreds of thou in tuition, plus living stipend. = Human Guinea Pig.

He had decided to drop out of the program.  Perhaps this is the consequence.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 10, 2012, 09:43:02 AM
He had decided to drop out of the program.  Perhaps this is the consequence.

"Decided" is a pretty loaded word, here. It's quite possible that he was "forced" out, although in the sense used for a small, tightly-knit and controlled program such as this, it isn't exactly done through channels. His oral exams, at which he supposedly performed poorly, are more of a "discussion" type forum than anything. Regardless of how he was doing in the program before that, I'm not surprised that he might do poorly in such a venue. He's obviously not a talker, not comfortable with being social. Would probably have aced a written exam (assuming his mental state was not too degraded by then from the onset of schizophrenia, drug affects, or whatever), but clearly, standing in front of a bunch of professors would not be his thing.

Also, these doctoral students are usually expected to obtain some kind of mentor during their enrollment. Quite possible Holmes didn't have the social and political skills to pull that off.

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Perhaps this is the consequence.

Could have been what caused his "psychopathic break" - if he already was suffering from largely-dormant schizophrenia, then this traumatic event could have ignited it. Or, could have been experimenting with drugs, either personally or through some college- or government- run program. Or, he could have experienced this: http://www.crcnetbase.com/doi/abs/10.1201/9780203496565.ch4

At any rate, I'd like to know how the defense determined that Holmes was "mentally ill" at all - was a shrink involved in the diagnosis? Can they just SAY that, or anything else they please? What's the protocol here?

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Post by: wag on August 10, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
At any rate, I'd like to know how the defense determined that Holmes was "mentally ill" at all - was a shrink involved in the diagnosis? Can they just SAY that, or anything else they please? What's the protocol here?

Colorado seems to be crawling with jew psychiatrists and similar vermin.  What comes out won't be credible.  People that know the truth will be silenced one way or another.     
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Post by: jacob gold on August 10, 2012, 04:40:10 PM
Good and decent Jewish psychiatrists

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A lusty ravenous bitch that wanted sex at all costs


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Colorado seems to be crawling with Jew psychiatrists and similar vermin.  What comes out won't be credible. 



Wag, you make me sick.


You are very cruel. What about the 21 yr old coed (Zoey Ripple) that tried to rape the Jewish shrinks - you know the girl the zios had to shoot.

That bitch got into a gated community, she bypassed the expensive alarms, she broke into the house, then cornered the jews in their bedroom. She wanted to perform oral sex on the jewess as she 'forcibly' mounted the husband's schmeckle.

I hope they throw the book at that bitch!!!

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/colorado-woman-zoey-ripple-21-shot-entering-home-16428993
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 10, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
Third mass shooting in a month leaves 3 dead at Alabama nightclub

Published: 10 August, 2012, 19:03
source: http://rt.com/usa/news/mass-shooting-alabama-nightclub-370/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/mass-shooting-alabama-nightclub-370/)

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AFP Photo / Joe Klamar

Following a seven-hour search across rural Alabama, police arrested a man early Friday that they consider a suspect in a Thursday evening rampage that left three people dead at a nightclub in the third mass shooting in America within a month.

Police arrested 22-year-old Ryan Clark Peterson of Enterprise, AL in a wooded area around 100 miles outside of Montgomery just after 7 a.m. Friday. The authorities believe Mr. Peterson played a role in a massacre at a Dothan, AL nightclub just before midnight late Thursday. Witnesses report that Peterson was allegedly kicked out of Teaser’s nightclub on Thursday, only to retreat to his car so that he could return with a gun. Investigators then say the shooter opened fire, killing three and injuring at least four more.

Shortly after authorities apprehended Peterson, officers informed the media that their suspect had not immediately been questioned yet because he was believed to be still inebriated. Of what little is known of the suspect, he was arrested at least once before  this year  over a charge of third-degree theft of property, Alabama’s Southeast Sun reports.

The Alabama nightclub massacre is the third mass shooting the United States has seen in only the last month. On July 20, 12 people were killed at an Aurora, Colorado movie theater after a gunman believed to be 24-year-old James Holmes opened fire; in a separate incident, investigators have identified Wade Michael Page as their sole suspect in a shooting last weekend at a Sikh temple outside of Milwaukee, Wisconsin that took the lives of a dozen more.

According to an ongoing tally kept by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the United States is experiencing an average of 20 mass shootings each year.

LW - sounds more like a pissed-off customer than anything planned.
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Post by: wag on August 10, 2012, 06:17:35 PM
I hope they throw the book at that bitch!!!

The plea bargain exchanges her freedom for her silence.
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Post by: dominique on August 10, 2012, 07:35:22 PM
I know this isn't a real popular opinion with most, but as tragic as the Aurora shooting was and is for the victims and their families and friends, I actually feel sorry for the kid who allegedly did it, and even moreso, for his parents. They basically lost a son, too.

This article does a pretty good job of summing up my feelings.



Losing James Holmes
'James Holmes may be responsible for these losses but we are responsible for losing him', writes Lisa Buscani.
August 2, 2012
By: Kate Dries

Aurora, Colorado.
After the recent shootings in Aurora, Colorado, few felt bad for alleged shooter James Holmes, who has since been charged with 24 counts of murder. WBEZ's own Al Gini wrote that he wasn't sure that our society could ever really forgive people like Holmes, or former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky. "Given the immensity of their actions, I think forgiveness is asking too much," he wrote.

But writer and performer Lisa Buscani feels that, since Holmes is just the latest of "many disenfranchised gunman", there might be more there that we're missing. Read an excerpt of her thoughts below or listen above:

You knew him. He was the kid who got good grades without even trying, but blinked and swallowed constantly during show and tell, when he tried to talk about the time his parents, "Um took him, uh, to the like Epcot Center," and no one wanted to hear it because he was a stupid, boring geek. The restlessness spread through the class like thin kindling on fire, as the kids giggled and imitated him until he cut his story short.

Maybe he was the kid who brought up the rear of your pack, the one who, to your everlasting credit, you took the time to find out what he thought and discovered he was funny and sarcastic and smart. His advice, when you asked him for it, saved you work and pain. You even encouraged him to step away from the wall that always had his back; you threw the spotlight to him once when he said something funny that everyone missed and you made them stop and listen and he said it and everyone laughed. He looked like a guy who’d spent three weeks in the Mojave who just got his hands on a Snapple.

But when he tried to do it himself, tried to take center stage with his contribution, primarily because you had said he could, you had shown him how it felt to be heard finally, and he stepped out into the light only to fight that same enemy in his audience’s restlessness, only to have his brilliance caught and carried away in a stiff wind, only to see eyes glaze over as points and friends and potential were lost. Only to start him on the road you wouldn’t follow, to become the person you didn’t recognize.

In the mass murderer story arc, James Holmes, the latest alleged lone gunman, is an unabashed cliché, the quiet young man who never caused trouble but who no one ever knew, who brought home the grades and played soccer like all the rest of the white suburban kids but failed to walk at commencement. He went from doing honors work in undergrad to working at a dead-end job at McDonald’s to entering a prestigious UC Denver neuroscience doctoral program to withdrawing from that future.

You’ve known guys like James Holmes. What you don’t know are the details of the spin out. I mean, think about it. What it’s like to be that smart and yet unable to share; to be of the world and never in it. It’s like the dreamer who pushes through race walls for a third or fourth wind and crosses through tape to a roar of adulation only to wake to a brace and a walker. It’s a high-flying mind dragged down and buried under a suffocating wet blanket of a personality that offers no impact. It’s madness. It’s a slow death.


http://www.wbez.org/blogs/onstagebackstage/2012-08/losing-james-holmes-101406
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Post by: dominique on August 10, 2012, 07:39:30 PM

LW - sounds more like a pissed-off customer than anything planned.

Well, you know, anything to fuel the gun-grabbers' fire. How many murders happened in the ghettos of Chicago ALONE in the past month? Oh, I forgot, BLACKS with guns are just animals, right?
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Post by: dominique on August 10, 2012, 07:43:39 PM

Just answered my own question.

Fourteen homicides have been logged so far this month. Thirty-seven homicides were recorded in August 2011, according to RedEye data.

http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/
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Post by: jacob gold on August 10, 2012, 08:08:35 PM
Guns don't kill

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People kill

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Homicide stats


Guns ..............  7,000 dead ............... (Mostly suicides and cops killing people)

Knives .........     3,000  dead

Cars  ............... 33,800 dead


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate


http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl01.xls


http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl07.xls
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Post by: dominique on August 10, 2012, 08:51:44 PM
James Holmes' University of Illinois application offers no hint of mental issues
By Jeremy P. Meyer
The Denver Post
Posted:   08/10/2012 05:20:22 PM MDT

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James Eagan Holmes, the man suspected in one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history, offered no hint of mental problems in early 2011 when he applied for graduate school at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

The university on March 21, 2011, accepted Holmes into the neuroscience program, offering him a $22,660 annual stipend and waiving his tuition and fees as long as he kept in good academic standing.

Holmes ultimately rejected the offer to attend the University of Colorado-Denver, where he was a student in the neuroscience program until dropping out in early June.

He has been charged with 142 counts in connection with the July 20 attack during the new Batman movie, "The Dark Knight Rises." Holmes
Extras

    Read excerpts of James Holmes application to the University of Illinois (PDF, 16 pages).

allegedly burst into the midnight premiere and killed 12 people and injured 58 others in the Century Aurora 16 theater. Authorities also accused Holmes of booby-trapping his Aurora apartment with explosives to cause further damage.

The University of Illinois released documents from Holmes' application process to become a neuroscience graduate student at the school, complete with a personal statement and a photograph of Holmes in sunglasses pointing a strand of hay at a llama.

Information in the documents released by Illinois, first reported Friday by The News-Gazette in Champaign, offers a window into the world of the aspiring scientist and brilliant academic striving to learn as much as he could about how the brain works.

"Those who met you ... during your interview visit felt that your personal and professional qualities are truly outstanding and that you will be an excellent match for our program," said the Illinois acceptance letter from professor J. Lee Beverly .

The trove of documents released include Holmes' resume, a personal statement, letters of reference with the names blacked out, confirmation of a criminal background check, a schedule of Holmes' March 2011 campus visit, and multiple e-mail exchanges among school officials about the prospective student who professors winkingly referred to as "Llama."

Holmes was the final neuroscience candidate to visit the campus and obviously wooed the professors, making the tentative list to become a distinguished fellow.

The 176 pages of information provide a picture of a Holmes very different from the alleged killer seen in an Arapahoe County courtroom in recent weeks — a 16-month span in which he went from interviewing for graduate programs to being accused of 24 counts of first-degree murder and 116 counts of attempted murder.

On Thursday, Holmes' attorneys said their client is mentally ill, arguing they needed more information to help their investigation into "the nature or depth of Mr. Holmes' mental illness."

But in March 2011, Holmes was busy scheduling trips to colleges, ending his e-mail exchanges with a jaunty "cheers." He stood out from the other applicants with his pithy photograph taken with a llama — the context of which was not explained in any documents released by the University of Illinois.

"You can't miss the llama," wrote Samuel Beshers, neuroscience program coordinator, in an e-mail to a colleague.

Holmes' application reveals his grade-point average from the University of California at Riverside was 3.94 on a 4.0 scale, that he was Phi Betta Kappa member and his GRE verbal score was in the 98th percentile and quantitative score was in the 94 percentile. His analytical writing score was in the 45 percentile.

His resume also included an entry from his work at a children's camp in which he said he "took an active stance as a positive role model."

Letters of reference, apparently from his undergraduate professors but whose names were blacked out, championed Holmes as "among the top 1 percent of honors students and is self-motivated, intelligent, and driven."

"James is an extraordinarily gifted student who is very dedicated to his academic pursuits," one letter said. "He takes an active role in his education, and brings a great amount of intellectual and emotional maturity into the classroom. He is passionate about a career in science and seeks out opportunities to learn as much as possible about his chosen field of interest, and how he can positively contribute to the world."

In his personal statement, Holmes revealed that as a high school student he interned at the Salk Institute of Biological Studies, working in Terrence J. Sejnowski's computational neurology lab.

He said in other labs he explored the "facets of chemical analysis" and advanced to complicated analytical techniques.

"Rational people act based on incentives for self-fulfillment, including fulfilling needs of self-development and needs of feeling useful and helpful to others," Holmes wrote in his application. "I look forward to fulfilling my quest to advance my knowledge and I plan to use my critical thinking skills by studying the subject I am passionate about, neuroscience."

He described his "unquenchable curiosity, a strong desire to know and explore the unknown, and a need to persist against the odds."

He said his goal was to analyze memory.

"I have always been fascinated by the complexities of long lost thought seemingly arising out of nowhere into a stream of awareness," he wrote. ... "These are the very cognitive processes which enable us to acquire information and retain it. They are at the core of what distinguishes us as people. Due to the seemingly infinite vastness of indefinite knowledge we must be selective in our pursuits of knowledge. This is why I have chose to study the primary source of all things, our own minds."

Among the documents are two pages of handwritten notes detailing some parts of Holmes' background — although it's not clear who wrote them. Among the entries is a listing of Colorado, Iowa and Alabama — apparently universities he was considering.

Officials at the University of Iowa on Friday said they were looking for records that would verify whether Holmes applied there. And officials at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, which also has a graduate program in neurosciences, declined to release any information Friday, citing federal privacy laws.

Holmes ultimately decided to attend CU.

When he made the decision not to attend Illinois, Holmes wrote a short e-mail in which he declined the university's officer and apologized "for any inconvenience this may have caused."

Later that night, a colleague forwarded the news to Beshers, the neuroscience program coordinator.

"Glad we put the $$ and effort into bringing him," Beshers responded.

Jeremy P. Meyer: 303-954-1367, jpmeyer@denverpost.com or twitter.com/jpmeyerdpost

Denver Post staff writer Chuck Murphy contributed to this report.


Article link: http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/news/colorado/ci_21286187/holmes-university-illinois-application-offers-no-hint-mental

Documents: http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/102590199?access_key=key-1pzs61ppv35uv9wxxp2c
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Post by: wag on August 11, 2012, 02:32:09 PM
James Holmes' University of Illinois application offers no hint of mental issues
By Jeremy P. Meyer
The Denver Post
Posted:   08/10/2012 05:20:22 PM MDT

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Holmes was actually a shining academic in a niche field.  Was there any jealousy over his status in this narrow academic field?  He quit Colorado, turned down Illinois when they were offering a full ride and a good amount of stipend money.  What was lined up for him, and who (jew?) now gets that prized slot?
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Post by: dominique on August 11, 2012, 08:43:10 PM
Holmes was actually a shining academic in a niche field.  Was there any jealousy over his status in this narrow academic field?  He quit Colorado, turned down Illinois when they were offering a full ride and a good amount of stipend money.  What was lined up for him, and who (jew?) now gets that prized slot?

Apparently, Illinois wasn't the only offer he turned down. A mention was made of Alabama, and who knows where else.

It is puzzling, indeed. Could be a jealous cohort that effed him up chemically somehow, that's plausible.

A sad waste, all the way around.
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Post by: dominique on August 11, 2012, 11:18:04 PM
Another possible diagnosis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophreniform_disorder
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Post by: dominique on August 12, 2012, 09:54:24 PM
James Holmes Has 'Great Amount Of Intellectual And Emotional Maturity': Letter Of Recommendation

DENVER -- The man accused of opening fire in a suburban Denver movie theater had been an excellent student who left an impression good enough for acceptance to a competitive neuroscience program at the University of Illinois.

Those who recommended James Holmes found him intelligent and mature. His application materials described a bright student with strong interests in the cognitive sciences.

"He takes an active role in his education, and brings a great amount of intellectual and emotional maturity into the classroom," one recommendation letter said. "James received excellent evaluations from the professors and graduate students with whom he worked and was mentored."

The letter and all of the university's documents related to Holmes were provided to The Associated Press on Friday after an open records request. The News-Gazette in Champaign, Ill., first obtained the documents.

Holmes had applied to the highly selective program in Illinois last year. The school paid for his travel expenses for a visit, and he was offered a stipend $22,600 per year and free tuition. At least two researchers vied for Holmes to join their laboratories.

"Your personal and professional qualities are truly outstanding," and "you will be an excellent match for our program," read the acceptance letter.

But the person described in the admissions application contrasts starkly with the 24-year-old man who has attended court hearings with a dazed expression on his face, his hair dyed a cartoonish orange, his eyes directed straight ahead. Defense lawyers said this week that Holmes suffers from a mental illness.

Little is known about Holmes, who is accused of killing 12 people and wounding 58 in the attack during a midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises." A judge has sealed court documents in the case and issued a sweeping gag order that prevents the University of Colorado, Denver, from releasing his school files. The judge's gag order does not apply to other states.

Holmes attended the Denver school's neuroscience program but dropped out in June without providing a reason.

His application to the Illinois school indicated he was committed to pursuing a career as cognitive neuroscientist.

"Researching learning and memory interests me because these are the very cognitive processes which enable us to acquire information and retain it," he wrote in his personal statement. "They are at the core of what distinguishes us as people."

Recommendation letters say he was in the top 1 percent of his honors classes, graduating with a cumulative grade point average of 3.949. Another letter describes him as "a very effective group leader" on assignments.

The names of those who wrote the letter were blacked out.

The only part of his application that seemed odd was the photo he submitted: a photo of himself, standing next to a llama.

It was not clear whether he used the photo to make his application memorable, although it seemed to work. Samuel Beshers, neuroscience program coordinator, referred to Holmes as "llama" in emails. Beshers did not return a message left at the school.

Holmes eventually declined the school's acceptance by email, writing: "My apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. Best wishes in your candidate search."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/11/school-application-james-homes-aurora-shooter_n_1767529.html



Comment: This just gets sadder and sadder, to me. What a loss. I know it sounds odd, but I would be very interested in meeting this kid face to face, and look into his eyes, and just see what's there, and if he would talk, and what would he say. I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around this, but the idea that he was a patsy or had accomplices just doesn't add up to me. I still think he had the capacity and ability to plan and execute this all on his own. sigh....
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Post by: jacob gold on August 13, 2012, 06:23:36 AM
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Comment: This just gets sadder and sadder, to me. What a loss. I know it sounds odd, but I would be very interested in meeting this kid face to face, and look into his eyes, and just see what's there, and if he would talk, and what would he say. I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around this, but the idea that he was a patsy or had accomplices just doesn't add up to me. I still think he had the capacity and ability to plan and execute this all on his own. sigh....


So much potential. I was offended when people wrote him off as a 'Greasy Jew', blaming inbreeding for his mental state. And if the poor boy did have accomplices, I imagine they were Al-Quiada, and he was drugged and tortured.
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Post by: dominique on August 13, 2012, 07:23:23 PM

So much potential. I was offended when people wrote him off as a 'Greasy Jew', blaming inbreeding for his mental state. And if the poor boy did have accomplices, I imagine they were Al-Quiada, and he was drugged and tortured.

He's clearly not a jew, and we all know al Qaeda is a psy-op full of fakes.

By the way, the judge has continued the gag order on almost everything to do with this case. What little documentation is being released, I've no idea, but doubtless it's inconsequential.

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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 14, 2012, 01:14:38 AM
Red hair, and circumscion, (which proves nothing)  is a zio-technique of distraction.

Parents are probably a better sign:  used to doubt Jacob Gold's claims about Jeffrey Dahmer & Ted Kaczynski having joo parents.  Recently saw tv documentaries about them & wow it was pretty clear then that they were Chosen.  MSM (like Wiki) always lies about these facts but video can often show differently. 
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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 14, 2012, 01:35:03 AM
Holmes being Jewish is just part of the picture. You need his background, his associates, his motive, and lay out what happened.

Ted Kaczynski was under tutelage of satanic "scientists" like cybernetics' Norbert Weiner (a jew) who sought to reduce humans to machines.  Holmes was fascinated by psychiatry (a jew field) & also the Joker character:  Batman filmmakers changed Joker from a relatively harmless prankster to a crazy hater.  Pretty much also the whole theme of Batman movies where the villains were were demented sickos as opposed to the former villains who just wanted to one-up Batman.
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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 14, 2012, 02:03:30 AM
You are dangerously close to trolling Jacob. Present the proof that Holmes is a jew or shut up about it till (if) you find proof. He may or may not be, but just saying it over and over isn't worth the digital ink.

Perhaps sometimes we should trust our local rabbi who has often been right on such issues?  Innit weird that we see no photos of Holmes' parents?  Should we have to make special concessions to Gelignite & newly-angered Dominique who make laughable claims about being impartial when they only chime in to zio-sensitive threads?  Perhaps we should be angered not that some folks assume such perps are jewish but rather the MSM-style default position that being jewish is ordinarily improbable & at worst irrelevant?
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 14, 2012, 07:30:48 AM
Perhaps sometimes we should trust our local rabbi who has often been right on such issues?  Innit weird that we see no photos of Holmes' parents?  Should we have to make special concessions to Gelignite & newly-angered Dominique who make laughable claims about being impartial when they only chime in to zio-sensitive threads?  Perhaps we should be angered not that some folks assume such perps are jewish but rather the MSM-style default position that being jewish is ordinarily improbable & at worst irrelevant?

IMO the whole issue of ethnicity is a red herring. It merely distracts from the question of whether or not the 'event' was staged. The jews don't need jews to pull this sort of shit off. Plenty of dumbass goys around willing to do anything for a buck or some demented cause or other.
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Post by: dominique on August 14, 2012, 07:42:40 PM

newly-angered Dominique who make laughable claims about being impartial when they only chime in to zio-sensitive threads? 

You are an idiot.
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Post by: dominique on August 14, 2012, 07:47:54 PM
The jews don't need jews to pull this sort of shit off. Plenty of dumbass goys around willing to do anything for a buck or some demented cause or other.

Or, because they (Holmes) get so fucked up from the jew-run schools, the jew psychotropic meds that every kid is on these days, the jew fields of psychiatry/psychology/neuroscience, the jew-invented-and-run comics industry (sorry, "EyeBelieve," but those "graphic novels" ARE pretty graphic, and not just fluff), the jew-run Hollywood and all of its corrupt media - film, television, music, porn, and of course, the jew-conceived First-Person-Shooter video games.

Is that enough "jew" to make dolts like "EyeBelieve" understand that a goy kid - especially an unusually bright one (and they DO exist outside the jewish realm, EyeBelieve) - could get disillusioned and fucked up enough to pull this off?
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Post by: dominique on August 15, 2012, 10:11:57 AM
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In one document, however, defense attorney Daniel King argued that Holmes be allowed to sit with his attorneys at the defense table, and not in the jury box where Holmes sat during his initial appearance July 23.

King said that the deputies placed him there out of concerns for Holmes' safety "due to the apparent presence, statements, and behavior of individuals in the audience of the courtroom."

King argued that seating Holmes away from the defense table gave the impression that Holmes was expressing threats or exhibiting dangerous behavior, threatening a fair trial. That request was granted.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/judge-keeps-gag-order-in-colo-shooting-case-university-doesnt-have-to-release-suspect-info/2012/08/13/e9919ad2-e5a3-11e1-9739-eef99c5fb285_story.html


Holmes has continued to wear bulletproof vests to his hearings, btw. How is that going to stop a head-shot?
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Post by: jewbacca on August 15, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
You are an idiot.

insults are a sign of weakness.

this tactic must have served you well during your high school debating days at the kibbutz.

stay classy miss ziobot!
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Post by: dominique on August 15, 2012, 03:50:20 PM
insults are a sign of weakness.

this tactic must have served you well during your high school debating days at the kibbutz.

stay classy miss ziobot!

And you are an idiot, too. And you clearly know nothing of my ethnicity, personal opinions, or posting history. Like the rest of your shill brethren that insist on turning this forum into a three-ring circus.

My god, LoneWolf, you sure are generous to let jew shills like jewbacca, eyebelieve, jake and curiousity stick around. Carnies, all.


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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 15, 2012, 04:01:21 PM
And you are an idiot, too. And you clearly know nothing of my ethnicity, personal opinions, or posting history. Like the rest of your shill brethren that insist on turning this forum into a three-ring circus.

My god, LoneWolf, you sure are generous to let jew shills like jewbacca, eyebelieve, jake and curiousity stick around. Carnies, all.

Again this is devolving into name-calling... on all sides. Grow up people. If someone is a shill then show some evidence of such claims. If someone is a jew, ditto. First rule of law - show cause. Without that caveat kiss civilization goodbye. We're already pretty close to it's end on that account. Emulating the tyrants is a fast track to that end.
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Post by: dominique on August 15, 2012, 04:15:38 PM
Again this is devolving into name-calling... on all sides. Grow up people. If someone is a shill then show some evidence of such claims.

I'll take you up on your challenge. Why is it that even on serious threads, "people" (I use that term loosely) like Jacob, curiousity, jewbacca, and others (probably) have to post these absolutely ridiculous claims about someone being a jew because they're circumcised, or a vampire, or starting whole inane threads on that subject? Doesn't that serve to water down the seriousness of the tragedies and issues we're facing and the efforts to determine the causes, motives, methods and strategy behind them? You tell ME whose ends that kind of behavior serves.

I've already said it several times on this thread, but the bigger issue here is not whether Holmes (or Edgar Steele, or Paul Ryan) has even less jew in his blood than his BAC after a beer, it's about the net effect, and the various methods, that jewish subversiveness is ruining our culture, our country, our communities, AND OUR KIDS.

And all these carnies want to discuss is whether Holmes is a heeb because he has part of his dick lopped off? Please. The illustration created by their behavior is far more damning than any claim that I can make.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 15, 2012, 04:20:17 PM
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this is devolving into name-calling

I can't believe I'm saying this, but these pikers actually make me miss debating with Jelly. At least HE made a pretty good attempt to defend his points, however underhandedly.

With these clowns around, no wonder he hasn't shown up in awhile. They do his work for him in disrupting this forum.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on August 15, 2012, 06:14:21 PM
I'll take you up on your challenge. Why is it that even on serious threads, "people" (I use that term loosely) like Jacob, curiousity, jewbacca, and others (probably) have to post these absolutely ridiculous claims about someone being a jew because they're circumcised, or a vampire, or starting whole inane threads on that subject? Doesn't that serve to water down the seriousness of the tragedies and issues we're facing and the efforts to determine the causes, motives, methods and strategy behind them? You tell ME whose ends that kind of behavior serves.

You are right in observing this inane behavior. I've been fighting it for years now and thoroughly fed up with it myself. I don't mind a good joke every now and then, I appreciate incisive sarcasm as well, but nothing they are doing with their continual tongue in ass humor does anything for me. All it does is make them look ridiculous and detracts from the serious situation we find ourselves today. It's impossible for me to argue with you on this. I just keep on hoping that better posters come along who are seeking a venue where issues are discussed with reasonable depth and seriousness. The I can turf the jokesters and detractors.

I stated from the beginning that the whole thing was staged. None of the stooges here (ooops - name calling!) want to discuss it. They prefer to bring up every jew scumbag they can recall as proof of some sort that substantiates their claim Holmes is a jew. Even if he was the involvement of agents and enablers is the far more important to discover.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 15, 2012, 06:45:52 PM

I stated from the beginning that the whole thing was staged....

...Even if he was the involvement of agents and enablers is the far more important to discover.

Now this is getting interesting. I have seen you state this a few times, and would like you to elaborate upon what elements cause you to say this.

As you know, I personally lean toward the theory that Holmes pulled off the whole shooting and booby-trapping himself. However, I also can believe that he may have been an unwitting (or even voluntary) subject of some kind of psychotropic or mind-control experiment, considering his field of interest. Which caused or contributed to his bizarre and violent acting-out. Could have even been doing his OWN chemical or other experimentation on himself.

But of course I welcome other theories, since any of us only can conclude so much, if at all.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: curiousity on August 15, 2012, 06:48:55 PM
Monique, you were dormant for quite sometime before the Holmes jewfro mamzer, went on
a jew chimpout. And then awakened and became very vocal and hostile, in attacking anyone whom challenged your opposing views and seemingly purposely confusing rants.

Explain your view clearly, because your posts read like que cards for roseanne bar jonah.
I share your views on the texas a&m jew shooter, but not this holmes jew shooter.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 15, 2012, 06:55:42 PM
Monique, you were dormant for quite sometime before the Holmes jewfro mamzer, went on
a jew chimpout. And then awakened and became very vocal and hostile, in attacking anyone whom challenged your opposing views and seemingly purposely confusing rants.

Explain your view clearly,
because your posts read like que cards for roseanne bar jonah.
I share your views on the texas a&m jew shooter, but not this holmes jew shooter.

Why should I waste any further time explaining ANYTHING to a freak who keeps accusing me of being some kind of shill? You want my view, it's ALL posted already, all over this thread. Find the first post of mine and start reading. Any questions when you're done, if respectably posed, I will answer.

Edit to add: By the way, LOTS of us have been "dormant for some time," at various points, and this isn't my first. I happen to have a life outside this board, and also, a lot of you have made it not worth my interest to even bother READING, let alone posting. I've gone MONTHS without even visiting, that's how bad it's gotten. Congrats.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 15, 2012, 07:26:15 PM
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I share your views on the texas a&m jew shooter, but not this holmes jew shooter.

First, the burden of proof is on YOU to explain to ALL of us just WHY you think Holmes is a jew (as opposed to a goy who's been corrupted by jewish subversiveness). What is so scary about Holmes being a gentile?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on August 15, 2012, 07:30:18 PM
Now this is getting interesting. I have seen you state this a few times, and would like you to elaborate upon what elements cause you to say this.

My thinking has been in parallel with what Charles Giuliani has been saying. He covers most all the issues pretty thoroughly so my effort at it would be rather dismal in comparison.

I recommend you DL the stuff he's archived at http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=Truth_Hertz (http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=Truth_Hertz)

It's labeled so you should be able to find the relevant material easily enough. He's very down to earth and easy to listen to.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 15, 2012, 07:31:46 PM
My thinking has been in parallel with what Charles Giuliani has been saying. He covers most all the issues pretty thoroughly so my effort at it would be rather dismal in comparison.

I recommend you DL the stuff he's archived at http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=Truth_Hertz (http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=Truth_Hertz)

It's labeled so you should be able to find the relevant material easily enough. He's very down to earth and easy to listen to.

Thanks. I'll have to give it a listen while walking.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 15, 2012, 07:40:49 PM
@Lonewolf:

I found three shows mentioning Aurora, and downloaded them. I'll let you know what I think when I'm done. Looks like it's a 2hr show, so I've got to get through the six hours first.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: EyeBelieve on August 18, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
You are right in observing this inane behavior. I've been fighting it for years now and thoroughly fed up with it myself. I don't mind a good joke every now and then, I appreciate incisive sarcasm as well, but nothing they are doing with their continual tongue in ass humor does anything for me. All it does is make them look ridiculous and detracts from the serious situation we find ourselves today. It's impossible for me to argue with you on this. I just keep on hoping that better posters come along who are seeking a venue where issues are discussed with reasonable depth and seriousness. The I can turf the jokesters and detractors.

I stated from the beginning that the whole thing was staged. None of the stooges here (ooops - name calling!) want to discuss it. They prefer to bring up every jew scumbag they can recall as proof of some sort that substantiates their claim Holmes is a jew. Even if he was the involvement of agents and enablers is the far more important to discover.

I'm mystified how you can seemingly assert that the generals were jewish but that the soldier was either goy or it doesn't matter.  Myself I never said Holmes was a jew but rather that one should consider the possibility.  Personally I think ethnicity does matter since we see that non-whites (at least) are far more murderous than whites & in Columbine, for instance, we see that MSM has covered up ethnicity of perps/patsies. 

OTOH sure Holmes could be a staged patsy but on this long thread I seem to have missed your posts on the staging other than the bits about emergency doors.  US & other countries have a long history of serial killers & mass-murderers even before CIA/gun-grabbing psyops were considered.  & ethnically-motivated murders?  C'mon, old as dust!  If Aurora was staged psyop, we can assume that perps had enough expertise to coverup enough so that armchair detectives would have a tough time figuring things out.  But if Holmes is jewish there would be more clues left around.  So if it seems like skeptics are leaning to the "he's jewish" angle it's sort of natural only.

BTW JMSM used to claim serial-killing was almost exclusively a white phenomenon but recently true-crime tv features a show about a black guy who murdered up to ~80 women (many were black) in an insane campaign against prostitutes.  This guy was never featured on network news, NYTimes etc.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on August 18, 2012, 09:16:49 PM
I'm mystified how you can seemingly assert that the generals were jewish but that the soldier was either goy or it doesn't matter.

I never said any such thing. Nowadays it matters little what ethnicity the 'generals' are... they all kowtow to the jews one way or the other.

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Myself I never said Holmes was a jew but rather that one should consider the possibility.  Personally I think ethnicity does matter since we see that non-whites (at least) are far more murderous than whites & in Columbine, for instance, we see that MSM has covered up ethnicity of perps/patsies.
I am not dismissing the possibility. But there has been no proof. In this instance, had he been a jew it would have been too obvious so I rather think that he isn't. Was Oswald a jew? Imagine if he had been. But he was a useful idiot or at least, a dumb patsy. I think Holmes is in the same category. Klebold and company was at a time where gentiles were not quite as indoctrinated into jew-think as most of our young people are today, nor was there as much focus on their actions as there is today. It was easier to get away with using their own back then.

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OTOH sure Holmes could be a staged patsy but on this long thread I seem to have missed your posts on the staging other than the bits about emergency doors.

Near the very beginning.

http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg226407#msg226407 (http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg226407#msg226407)

and

http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg226943#msg226943 (http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg226943#msg226943)


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US & other countries have a long history of serial killers & mass-murderers even before CIA/gun-grabbing psyops were considered.  & ethnically-motivated murders?  C'mon, old as dust!  If Aurora was staged psyop, we can assume that perps had enough expertise to coverup enough so that armchair detectives would have a tough time figuring things out.  But if Holmes is jewish there would be more clues left around.  So if it seems like skeptics are leaning to the "he's jewish" angle it's sort of natural only.

BTW JMSM used to claim serial-killing was almost exclusively a white phenomenon but recently true-crime tv features a show about a black guy who murdered up to ~80 women (many were black) in an insane campaign against prostitutes.  This guy was never featured on network news, NYTimes etc.

Sorry, but I'm not following you at all here. The whole thing has been nothing but a coverup, or more accurately, a show. No pictures of bodies, witnesses that look very well prepped, assertions galore and with the legal direction heading for 'mental illness' and the judge sealing the evidence how will we ever get any details we can be sure of? If random then the issue of his ethnicity would matter more. If staged then his being jewish would obviously point at them whereas if he isn't then the jews would not be under any suspicion. There is simply not enough in the way of any concrete information to draw a solid conclusion. As it stands most of what we have is based on speculation. I don't think that will change anytime soon.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: EyeBelieve on August 19, 2012, 12:22:39 AM
I never said any such thing. Nowadays it matters little what ethnicity the 'generals' are... they all kowtow to the jews one way or the other.
I am not dismissing the possibility. But there has been no proof. In this instance, had he been a jew it would have been too obvious so I rather think that he isn't. Was Oswald a jew? Imagine if he had been. But he was a useful idiot or at least, a dumb patsy. I think Holmes is in the same category. Klebold and company was at a time where gentiles were not quite as indoctrinated into jew-think as most of our young people are today, nor was there as much focus on their actions as there is today. It was easier to get away with using their own back then.

Sorry, I conflated your prev statements about zios controlling things (in general vis war, money etc) to your statements about possible Holmes controllers.  So I suppose Holmes controllers could have been a renegade gentile faction of MIC intel branch?  Oswald is interesting comparison,  have recently wondered if he could have been jewish though I doubt it.  I don't seen any difference however between Klebold/Harris & Holmes viz open jewish ops though.  Only a handful of folks like Skunk pointed to Klebold & Harris being jewish, doesn't seem like that was enough to reach a big audience.  Holmes may be gentile, may be a lone nut, hey that happens! 

Actually on these "lone-nut" shooters like Cho I've been mostly reluctant to jump to conclusions about controlled-ops.  Can't be that hard to kill a dozen or two+ folks with quick-change mags; Cho was obviously Korean & they're pretty uptight & materialistic folks who get pissed when they don't find the pot of gold in America.  So we can think that if a similar guy like Holmes massacres a crowd he might have some at least indirect ethnic motivation.

Really I think it's more of a stretch to assume higher controllers for these types than baser motivations.  Now if we look at types like Jim Jones or Manson, yeah, gov't/intel had ample opportunity to learn & watch those guys.  Both were under gov't scrutiny for many years unlike garden-variety nutjobs like Cho, Holmes etc.

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http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg226407#msg226407 (http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg226407#msg226407)

1) The emergency exit.
Easily propped open.

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2) several eyewitnesses have already stated there was more than one shooter
Shouldn't be discounted, nor should historical unreliability of eyewitness testimony, folks hearing rapid shots & assuming it was more than one shooter

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3) the time frame presented... 12 dead and 58 wounded in under 3 minutes. No way one man can get off that many rounds in such a short time. His weapon jammed as well making that time frame even more suspicious
Shooting high-power rounds into a crowd at short range, either someone gets killed or wounded with virtually every round.  Perhaps some witnesses could have mistaken gun running out of magazine rounds for jamming.

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4) 20,000 dollars of military grade equipment. How does an unemployed student dig up that much cash?
others have added it up to only around $4-5K of equipment (ie price of used Toyota)

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5) the apartment... how does a psyche student rig an elaborate matrix of explosives when that is not his metier? And then tells the police the place is rigged...why?
Could explosive-rigged apartment have been a final bit of bs by Holmes?  Cops/authoritays could have seized on that as obvious means to delay until final story is hashed out.

Listening now to Charles Giuliani who makes interesting points about fake victims, I fully believe that occurred with 7/7 & probably 9/11 but not necessarily for garden-variety chimp-outs.  Charles Giuliani (despite 2 hours of audio) INSTANTLY wipes out consideration of Holmes being jewish by saying, umm, Holmes wasn't jewish.  Mentions the campground, doesn't even dignify that with an answer.  No way CG could be a jew despite that he whines about Jewish-controlled gov't.  & CG sounds exactly like a jew.  Jeez now he's running on about 9/11 & the "American government".  Next he's talking about MSG. 

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6) shooter was masked (mask didn't fog up coming out of 77% humidity into an air conditioned environment)and in full swat gear yet he was identified and taken into custody within minutes.
Everyone should use Rain-X on auto windshields.  77% humidity in Denver area, really?!  that's a pretty high amount more typical of east coast.

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7) 'victims' that sound a lot like actors and don't look like they're hurting at all.

that was typical of 7/7 but the tv interviews I saw of Aurora folks were mostly of scared folks who weren't hit but who had seen other victims.

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Sorry, but I'm not following you at all here. The whole thing has been nothing but a coverup, or more accurately, a show. No pictures of bodies, witnesses that look very well prepped, assertions galore and with the legal direction heading for 'mental illness' and the judge sealing the evidence how will we ever get any details we can be sure of?

Coverups, coached/controlled witnesses; we should always look out for such things.  But in contrast to big-time ops like 9/11 & 7/7 we might assume that MSM is pre-programmed to only show favorable stuff.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on August 19, 2012, 05:48:32 AM
The Aurora massacre smells of 'Gun control' - as of right now Holmes is being written off as a 'Psycho who had access to guns'. I don't think we will ever see the truth.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on August 19, 2012, 08:06:58 AM
Only a handful of folks like Skunk pointed to Klebold & Harris being jewish, doesn't seem like that was enough to reach a big audience.

It's well known amongst the better informed. The big audience consists mostly of sheep. Try not to go democratic on me here.

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Holmes may be gentile, may be a lone nut, hey that happens!

Far less often than not. Considering the almost automatic government and media adherence to the lone nut/wolf paradigm the odds are against it.

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Actually on these "lone-nut" shooters like Cho I've been mostly reluctant to jump to conclusions about controlled-ops.  Can't be that hard to kill a dozen or two+ folks with quick-change mags; Cho was obviously Korean & they're pretty uptight & materialistic folks who get pissed when they don't find the pot of gold in America.  So we can think that if a similar guy like Holmes massacres a crowd he might have some at least indirect ethnic motivation.

You are accepting the official version. There was some chatter that Cho was not alone. At the very least he was allowed to carry on with very little interference from the authorities. In any case he comitted 'suicide' - case closed. No investigation of any worth followed.

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Really I think it's more of a stretch to assume higher controllers for these types than baser motivations.  Now if we look at types like Jim Jones or Manson, yeah, gov't/intel had ample opportunity to learn & watch those guys.  Both were under gov't scrutiny for many years unlike garden-variety nutjobs like Cho, Holmes etc.

You are making a lot of assumptions based on the official statements. Nut jobs they may be but ignored...? I doubt it.

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1) The emergency exit.

Easily propped open.

Yeah, but why, and by whom? And why no alarm. If that easy wouldn't every theater be filled to capacity even though the box office only sold a handful of tickets?

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2) several eyewitnesses have already stated there was more than one shooter

Shouldn't be discounted, nor should historical unreliability of eyewitness testimony, folks hearing rapid shots & assuming it was more than one shooter

What witnesses see is not the same as what they heard. Ears are not eyes.

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3) the time frame presented... 12 dead and 58 wounded in under 3 minutes. No way one man can get off that many rounds in such a short time. His weapon jammed as well making that time frame even more suspicious

Shooting high-power rounds into a crowd at short range, either someone gets killed or wounded with virtually every round.  Perhaps some witnesses could have mistaken gun running out of magazine rounds for jamming.

Go spend some time on the range as far as assuming every bullet makes impact. Recoil generally sends rounds upward.

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4) 20,000 dollars of military grade equipment. How does an unemployed student dig up that much cash?

others have added it up to only around $4-5K of equipment (ie price of used Toyota)

Either way. He had no cash, period. Furthermore nothing in his history indicated a fascination with weapons or SWAT gear or being a wanna-be cop.

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5) the apartment... how does a psyche student rig an elaborate matrix of explosives when that is not his metier? And then tells the police the place is rigged...why?

Could explosive-rigged apartment have been a final bit of bs by Holmes?  Cops/authoritays could have seized on that as obvious means to delay until final story is hashed out.

We only have their word that this rigging of explosives took place. See any pics? Any diagrams.? Even any of the usual cartoons, you know, like the one at Tora Bora?

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Listening now to Charles Giuliani who makes interesting points about fake victims, I fully believe that occurred with 7/7 & probably 9/11 but not necessarily for garden-variety chimp-outs.  Charles Giuliani (despite 2 hours of audio) INSTANTLY wipes out consideration of Holmes being jewish by saying, umm, Holmes wasn't jewish.  Mentions the campground, doesn't even dignify that with an answer.  No way CG could be a jew despite that he whines about Jewish-controlled gov't.  & CG sounds exactly like a jew.  Jeez now he's running on about 9/11 & the "American government".  Next he's talking about MSG. 

So Charlie is a jew? How pathetic. Such a catch all for you isn't it?

I don't take everything others have to say as gospel. I suggested his audio because it covers a lot of ground. I have my own mind and avoid polluting it with mainstream media lies and deceptions.

In any case your incisive analysis has successfully debunked the doubts and sold me on the official story. Thanks to you I won't have to look any further into what happened or bother with analyzing the official stories. I was absolutely worng to doubt them and will sleep better knowing our terrorist fighters are keeping us all safe. I'll be sure to turn in my guns before the guns turn on me.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on August 19, 2012, 08:46:40 AM
Cho Seung-Hui was a South Korean

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/53/Cho_Seung-hui_3.jpg/150px-Cho_Seung-hui_3.jpg)



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You are accepting the official version. There was some chatter that Cho was not alone. At the very least he was allowed to carry on with very little interference from the authorities. In any case he committed 'suicide' - case closed. No investigation of any worth followed.



Cho was a multicultural oriental with a raging complex of being 'Put down' by the White Elitist. He walked into Moishe Cohen PHD and they saw gold with this angry zipperhead mutt. Cho was programmed by zios. It's about gun control. Just think about it, why not build three pipebombs and throw it in some classrooms. Or go to a basketball game and plant some bombs .... just a simple fuse, and a back pack.

Cho has the oriental complex stemming from Nagasaki. Hollywood's portrayal of John Wayne bayoneting Cho's uncle didn't help.

At any rate I 'believe' Virginia Tech was a Black Op for gun control
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: burford on August 19, 2012, 08:59:22 AM
I won't have to look any further into what happened or bother with analyzing the official stories. I was absolutely worng to doubt them and will sleep better knowing our terrorist fighters are keeping us all safe. I'll be sure to turn in my guns before the guns turn on me.

About time you saw the light.  Now, can we get back to untying the constraints on the news media and bankers and let them go about their business of saving the country?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 19, 2012, 09:25:43 AM
Some good points by both EB and LW in these last few posts. My comments:

Myself I never said Holmes was a jew but rather that one should consider the possibility. 

Could be a factor, but if he is, he's very, very slightly so. I assume that would mean less inclined to a chimpout based on his jewish ethnicity.

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Personally I think ethnicity does matter since we see that non-whites (at least) are far more murderous than whites & in Columbine, for instance, we see that MSM has covered up ethnicity of perps/patsies. 

Not sure what you mean by "white", but since the general public lumps jews and sometimes hispanics in with whites, we know that a) jews more inclined to murder, especially twisted kinds (which is what i think you were saying by "non"whites), and b) hispanics are DEFINITELY more murderous. Look at what's happening in Mexico and other parts of Central/South America, thanks to the bogus "War" on Drugs. Mass graves, beheadings, etc...

Blacks, that's a given. It just doesn't make the news as much as whites, because it's basically expected. That's how bad it's gotten.


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But if Holmes is jewish there would be more clues left around.  So if it seems like skeptics are leaning to the "he's jewish" angle it's sort of natural only.

What does this mean?

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BTW JMSM used to claim serial-killing was almost exclusively a white phenomenon but recently true-crime tv features a show about a black guy who murdered up to ~80 women (many were black) in an insane campaign against prostitutes.  This guy was never featured on network news, NYTimes etc.

Again, blacks (A-As as well as African blacks) just aren't newsworthy. They're EXPECTED to act barbarian.

More blacks are being killed in Chicago ALONE in a matter of days, than the total victims killed in Aurora, and this has been going on for years, but you rarely hear about THAT, either. Between it being accepted as par for the course and the PC MSM, it's just not newsworthy. We're numb to it.



I am not dismissing the possibility. But there has been no proof. In this instance, had he been a jew it would have been too obvious so I rather think that he isn't.

This is exactly right. And if Holmes is at all jewish, it's a fraction. Either way, it pales in significance to all of the other factors, but you'd never know it from reading all the trolls' input on this thread. You would think that Holmes being jewish is The Most Important Thing, Ever. (Sounds like a Dr. Seuss/Jewss book title, LOL)

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Was Oswald a jew? Imagine if he had been. But he was a useful idiot or at least, a dumb patsy. I think Holmes is in the same category.

Or, Holmes' massacre was the result of some kind of "experimentation" being done on him, either unwittingly or volutarily through his program, or possibly even on himself. And it went horribly wrong. Hence, the "coverup" by claiming HIPAA and doctor-patient sanctity, to hide the really sinister stuff.

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Klebold and company was at a time where gentiles were not quite as indoctrinated into jew-think as most of our young people are today, nor was there as much focus on their actions as there is today. It was easier to get away with using their own back then.

Plus, dead men (boys) don't talk. Holmes is alive, so they've got to keep him under control.


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No pictures of bodies,

That's what I've been curious about seeing. I hate horror stuff, but I just would like to see this to get the full impact and help me get my head around what happened.

That said, it's not unusual to keep stuff like this from the public view. Remember when Princess Diana met her fate in that horrible "accident"? Eventually, privileged, gory photos made their way onto the web. And that was back before anyone and everyone was carring around a digital camera or cameraphone.

Curious as to why you are implying that there would be other reasons to keep this a secret?


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If staged then his being jewish would obviously point at them whereas if he isn't then the jews would not be under any suspicion.

All the more reason to support that he ISN'T jewish. Throws the Amerikun publick off the scent.


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There is simply not enough in the way of any concrete information to draw a solid conclusion. As it stands most of what we have is based on speculation. I don't think that will change anytime soon.

Agreed.




Actually on these "lone-nut" shooters like Cho I've been mostly reluctant to jump to conclusions about controlled-ops.  Can't be that hard to kill a dozen or two+ folks with quick-change mags; Cho was obviously Korean & they're pretty uptight & materialistic folks who get pissed when they don't find the pot of gold in America. 

I think Cho may have been another "experiment" gone wrong.

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So we can think that if a similar guy like Holmes massacres a crowd he might have some at least indirect ethnic motivation.

If Holmes had ANY "ethnic motivation," I submit it is this:

White middle-to-upper-middle-class WASPy kid (supposedly descended from some of the Mayflower passengers, and he is/was a Lutheran, per his pastor) who is FED UP with other socio-ethnic classes, illegal aliens, etc, getting all the breaks. If Holmes' academic record was accurate, then he is likely the ONLY white male in the program and the ONLY one to get accepted ENTIRELY due to merit, given the "quota" system that is admittedly in place in colleges and universities MOST ESPECIALLY pertaining to science and engineering programs.

Even with his fairly cushy ride of free tuition and a stipend when he was accepted, it's possible he could have been the victim of biased or unfair treatment once he was IN the program, due to his personal traits and background, and became mad as hell about it. And/or "mad" as hell.

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Really I think it's more of a stretch to assume higher controllers for these types than baser motivations. 

I think it could be a mixture of his own (justifiable) anger/trauma/disappointment AND some kind of mind-control/psychotropic experimentation.


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  & CG sounds exactly like a jew. 

No, he sounds just like a New Englander from Baaaahston or Providence area. (Have listened to a little bit so far.) I keep waiting for him to say "zippa-head" and LMAO about it.

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Everyone should use Rain-X on auto windshields. 

Ha! Good one! Or hell, even spit works. That's what I do when I dive/snorkel.

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77% humidity in Denver area, really?!  that's a pretty high amount more typical of east coast.

Not necessarily. Denver is on the other side of the mountains from incoming weather (hence the smog problem). This can also trap humidity, too, sometimes.

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Coverups, coached/controlled witnesses; we should always look out for such things.  But in contrast to big-time ops like 9/11 & 7/7 we might assume that MSM is pre-programmed to only show favorable stuff.

Your first statement I agree with. So why discount it by "assuming" otherwise? ???



Try not to go democratic on me here.

LOL  ;D


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In any case he [Cho] comitted 'suicide' - case closed. No investigation of any worth followed.

That's what makes the Holmes case so weird/difficult. He's still alive.

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Yeah, but why, and by whom? And why no alarm. If that easy wouldn't every theater be filled to capacity even though the box office only sold a handful of tickets?

Typically NEVER alarms on those exits (pre-Aurora, anyway). People letting their friends in via emergency exits has been common for years and years - but filling a theater? Methinks that would not go unnoticed, and would eventually have a stop put to it.

Easy enough for him to prop that door open and I personally believe that's just what he did - fits with the whole ingenious plan spawned by a very bright guy - buy a ticket and enter just like any other patron, pretend to get a phone call when the movie starts, go out the back door (even if somebody were to see it propped open, no biggie, since he's only outside to avoid disturbing other moviegoers, right?), door can be unnoticeably propped open by the smallest of things - a pen on the ground, a piece of tape over the latch so door DOES close but doesn't latch, etc etc.

Clearly he had cased the place, knew where to park right by the door or else went to his car and moved it. Suited up (either before moving his car, or afterward if he felt confident there would be nobody witnessing him back there), and charged in. I don't think this is so difficult to believe, personally. Especially by someone as smart as he clearly is.

The other reason I doubt he had accomplices is because, let's face it, who would he have trusted enough? He apparently had no good friends out there (unless there's some super-secret friend we don't know of, but considering his personality type as described by NUMEROUS people from his past, I doubt it). I just don't see him as the type to let ANYONE else in on this, since it's clear he's got that control-freak mentality (not over others, just over his own sphere. And that's not necessarily a bad mindset, because I have it too, regarding my work ;) )

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What witnesses see is not the same as what they heard. Ears are not eyes.

True, but those senses can get confused during trauma or unusual circumstances. Ever been on an acid trip? ;)

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Go spend some time on the range as far as assuming every bullet makes impact. Recoil generally sends rounds upward.

Good point.

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Either way. He had no cash, period.

Do you know this as fact? Was this mentioned somewhere?

Number one, he probably had credit cards. Easy enough to sign up for a raft of them then max them out in a month or two getting geared up before the bills came due, never intending to pay them off since he knew he'd either be dead, in jail, or on the run. I'm just saying.

As far as actual "cash," we don't know that he wasn't involved in the drug trade. By which I mean, he certainly had access to some unusual substances through his research facility. He was also said to be a pot smoker, at the very least, per a neighbor that claims to have repeatedly seen him out back of their building toking up. He told the cops he had taken Vicodin a couple hours before the shooting - a pitiably small amount, 100 mg, BUT probably was illegally obtained since that's the only substance that has actually been identified that he was on (any others being privacy-protected if "prescribed," via HIPAA)


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Furthermore nothing in his history indicated a fascination with weapons or SWAT gear or being a wanna-be cop.

Ah, but you forget his fixation with first-person-shooter games. That's extremely important to this case. Have you seen just how sophisticated these things are? Had a friend who used to design these games for a company that was government-contracted to do so. Used to be the kids didn't ever get access to that stuff. Now, they do.

It's conceivable to me that he had could have had an underlying, scientifically-dispassionate desire to know what it would be like to actually fire on real humans instead of in a game, and maybe even what their reactions would be. Fits right in with his fascination of how the brain works.

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We only have their word that this rigging of explosives took place. See any pics? Any diagrams.? Even any of the usual cartoons, you know, like the one at Tora Bora?

There was, not a picture, but an explicit verbal explanation of one of the TV hosts (on NBC) I believe. Apparently it was pretty complex, but in some ways pretty simple and amateurish. I'll see if I can find the transcript (of course, I realize this is basically "hearsay," but still....I'll try to find it and post it just to see if you think it sheds any light. It was certainly believable.)


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I don't take everything others have to say as gospel. I suggested his audio because it covers a lot of ground. I have my own mind and avoid polluting it with mainstream media lies and deceptions.

I started listening to a little yesterday but my ipod went dead. Will try to get some in today and over the next few days.

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In any case your incisive analysis has successfully debunked the doubts and sold me on the official story. Thanks to you I won't have to look any further into what happened or bother with analyzing the official stories. I was absolutely worng to doubt them and will sleep better knowing our terrorist fighters are keeping us all safe. I'll be sure to turn in my guns before the guns turn on me.


LOL. Yeah, EB tends to use a lot of words (another j diversionary tactic) to finally end up pushing the "party line."

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on August 19, 2012, 12:11:23 PM
This is exactly right. And if Holmes is at all jewish, it's a fraction. Either way, it pales in significance to all of the other factors, but you'd never know it from reading all the trolls' input on this thread. You would think that Holmes being jewish is The Most Important Thing, Ever. (Sounds like a Dr. Seuss/Jewss book title, LOL)

It would seem to be important to them to the exclusion of all other considerations. It also acts as a great way to troll.

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Or, Holmes' massacre was the result of some kind of "experimentation" being done on him, either unwittingly or volutarily through his program, or possibly even on himself. And it went horribly wrong. Hence, the "coverup" by claiming HIPAA and doctor-patient sanctity, to hide the really sinister stuff.

Sorry but I don't see it as 'his' massacre.  I doubt there was a 'massacre' in fact.

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Plus, dead men (boys) don't talk. Holmes is alive, so they've got to keep him under control.

If he's taking we'll never get to hear it. He'll OD or be killed by the inmates. Or permanently incapacitated by drugs.

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That's what I've been curious about seeing. I hate horror stuff, but I just would like to see this to get the full impact and help me get my head around what happened.

That said, it's not unusual to keep stuff like this from the public view. Remember when Princess Diana met her fate in that horrible "accident"? Eventually, privileged, gory photos made their way onto the web. And that was back before anyone and everyone was carring around a digital camera or cameraphone.

Curious as to why you are implying that there would be other reasons to keep this a secret?

That easy. They don't want us to know that the whole thing is staged. If the truth gets out then a repeat might not come off as well.

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All the more reason to support that he ISN'T jewish. Throws the Amerikun publick off the scent.

I'm not supporting this view merely to prove a point. Just trying to look at it logically.

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Typically NEVER alarms on those exits (pre-Aurora, anyway). People letting their friends in via emergency exits has been common for years and years - but filling a theater? Methinks that would not go unnoticed, and would eventually have a stop put to it.

If I owned a theater I would make damn sure that not one person could enter that way unnoticed.

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Easy enough for him to prop that door open and I personally believe that's just what he did - fits with the whole ingenious plan spawned by a very bright guy - buy a ticket and enter just like any other patron, pretend to get a phone call when the movie starts, go out the back door (even if somebody were to see it propped open, no biggie, since he's only outside to avoid disturbing other moviegoers, right?), door can be unnoticeably propped open by the smallest of things - a pen on the ground, a piece of tape over the latch so door DOES close but doesn't latch, etc etc.

Apparently someone did go to the door and signaled someone to enter... but it wasn't Holmes who opened the door.

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Clearly he had cased the place, knew where to park right by the door or else went to his car and moved it. Suited up (either before moving his car, or afterward if he felt confident there would be nobody witnessing him back there), and charged in. I don't think this is so difficult to believe, personally. Especially by someone as smart as he clearly is.

You keep assuming he was the shooter. I'm sure the shooter(s) did exactly that.

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The other reason I doubt he had accomplices is because, let's face it, who would he have trusted enough? He apparently had no good friends out there (unless there's some super-secret friend we don't know of, but considering his personality type as described by NUMEROUS people from his past, I doubt it). I just don't see him as the type to let ANYONE else in on this, since it's clear he's got that control-freak mentality (not over others, just over his own sphere. And that's not necessarily a bad mindset, because I have it too, regarding my work ;) )

Again - was he an accomplice or was he set up?

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True, but those senses can get confused during trauma or unusual circumstances. Ever been on an acid trip? ;)

It only accentuated my perceptions. It certainly did not confuse.

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Do you know this as fact? Was this mentioned somewhere?

Yeah it was.

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Number one, he probably had credit cards. Easy enough to sign up for a raft of them then max them out in a month or two getting geared up before the bills came due, never intending to pay them off since he knew he'd either be dead, in jail, or on the run. I'm just saying.

If that were the case the authorities would have published the credit card purchases day in and day out. That's absolutely the easiest thing for them to track.

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As far as actual "cash," we don't know that he wasn't involved in the drug trade. By which I mean, he certainly had access to some unusual substances through his research facility. He was also said to be a pot smoker, at the very least, per a neighbor that claims to have repeatedly seen him out back of their building toking up. He told the cops he had taken Vicodin a couple hours before the shooting - a pitiably small amount, 100 mg, BUT probably was illegally obtained since that's the only substance that has actually been identified that he was on (any others being privacy-protected if "prescribed," via HIPAA)

Being a pot head would work against the whole psych image. Tokers tend to go mellow - not ballistic. Besides you make that kind of money selling pounds, not joints. No one recalls him hustling pot or pills. That would ddefinitely have been revealed as it would go a long way to promoting the 'war on drugs'.

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Ah, but you forget his fixation with first-person-shooter games. That's extremely important to this case. Have you seen just how sophisticated these things are? Had a friend who used to design these games for a company that was government-contracted to do so. Used to be the kids didn't ever get access to that stuff. Now, they do.

It's conceivable to me that he had could have had an underlying, scientifically-dispassionate desire to know what it would be like to actually fire on real humans instead of in a game, and maybe even what their reactions would be. Fits right in with his fascination of how the brain works.

I myself have played plenty of first shooter games. Even after smoking a joint to play I never had the urge to 'make it real'.

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There was, not a picture, but an explicit verbal explanation of one of the TV hosts (on NBC) I believe. Apparently it was pretty complex, but in some ways pretty simple and amateurish. I'll see if I can find the transcript (of course, I realize this is basically "hearsay," but still....I'll try to find it and post it just to see if you think it sheds any light. It was certainly believable.)

The point is that if it was as horrific as the media claims they would have published as much as they could for the simple reason that instilling fear is what this is all about. Are they saving our sensibilities? Hollywood excels in scaring the bejesus out of their audiences, to the point where it is sickening. Why would the media spare us in this instance?
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on August 19, 2012, 12:30:01 PM
Holmes, who is jewish, or who is a gentile, walked into a theater and sprayed the place. I hate to say it but the FBI couldn't handle Randy Weaver, Waco, the OKC bomb, etc etc, will not get you any answers here. The Columbine investigation was a disgrace. There were three shooters and seven active accomplices. The FBI put a Jewish Agent named Fusielier in charge, whose kid was an active member of the Trench Coat mafia.

The Trench Coat Mafia was 17 heebs.

The Aurora shooting is simple - What was Holmes motive, detail his movements, and show the possible accomplices.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on August 19, 2012, 01:51:29 PM
Holmes, who is jewish, or who is a gentile, walked into a theater and sprayed the place. I hate to say it but the FBI couldn't handle Randy Weaver, Waco, the OKC bomb, etc etc, will not get you any answers here. The Columbine investigation was a disgrace. There were three shooters and seven active accomplices. The FBI put a Jewish Agent named Fusielier in charge, whose kid was an active member of the Trench Coat mafia.

The Trench Coat Mafia was 17 heebs.

The Aurora shooting is simple - What was Holmes motive, detail his movements, and show the possible accomplices.

If you say so.  ::)
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: jacob gold on August 19, 2012, 03:42:26 PM
If you say so.  ::)

Short of a Muslim, or Neo Nazi, I sort of doubt that the FBI will link this to Zionists gun control
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 20, 2012, 10:32:29 AM
It would seem to be important to them to the exclusion of all other considerations. It also acts as a great way to troll.
Exactly.

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Sorry but I don't see it as 'his' massacre.  I doubt there was a 'massacre' in fact.

Why?


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That easy. They don't want us to know that the whole thing is staged. If the truth gets out then a repeat might not come off as well.
Well, as Giuliani says, "they keep outdoing themeselves".....



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Apparently someone did go to the door and signaled someone to enter... but it wasn't Holmes who opened the door.

Your proof is...what?



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If that were the case the authorities would have published the credit card purchases day in and day out. That's absolutely the easiest thing for them to track.

And you're expecting the jew-run banking/CC industry to comply? LMAO!


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Being a pot head would work against the whole psych image. Tokers tend to go mellow - not ballistic. Besides you make that kind of money selling pounds, not joints. No one recalls him hustling pot or pills. That would ddefinitely have been revealed as it would go a long way to promoting the 'war on drugs'.

I was merely pointing that out as the usual "gateway" argument that the churchbots have, regarding Holmes' exploration into other other substances and distribution thereof. SPECIFICALLLY, since he was likely already in access to quite a few "interesting" substances.
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I myself have played plenty of first shooter games. Even after smoking a joint to play I never had the urge to 'make it real'.

Good for you. Personally, I abhor that crap. Fact remains, the kid could have gotten SO numbed, SO disconnected, that AT LEAST a part of his shooting rampage had to do with the psy impact both on his victims and everyone else?

Do you discount that Holmes saw a "window" wherein he could he could give up entirely, then glory in the gubberimint-trolls figuring out who he was, then being stumped, yet again? And, get out alive?? Because if there's anything, anywhere, as far as conspiracy theories, one thing rings clear: This kid wanted to get out alive.


Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on August 20, 2012, 04:35:26 PM
Why?

The evidence is lacking. Until I see pics of all the bodies and maybe an accurate list of other casualties...

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Your proof is...what?

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And you're expecting the jew-run banking/CC industry to comply? LMAO!

Why wouldn't they? This does not affect their bottom line. Good publicity. Of course if the claim is false then they would shut up, as they have. Besides the judge has already ruled no evidence will be forthcoming until trial, if then. And there won't be a trial.

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I was merely pointing that out as the usual "gateway" argument that the churchbots have, regarding Holmes' exploration into other other substances and distribution thereof. SPECIFICALLLY, since he was likely already in access to quite a few "interesting" substances.

Nah, not much merit in that direction either. He smoked a few joints outside. Big deal. No suspicion he was dealing.

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Good for you. Personally, I abhor that crap. Fact remains, the kid could have gotten SO numbed, SO disconnected, that AT LEAST a part of his shooting rampage had to do with the psy impact both on his victims and everyone else?

We choose our poisons right? I enjoyed it for the multiplayer aspect. And not the stupid monster/beast kind. In any case sanity need not abandon one when playing these games. That is in itself yet another assumption... like guns kill, not people.

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Do you discount that Holmes saw a "window" wherein he could he could give up entirely, then glory in the gubberimint-trolls figuring out who he was, then being stumped, yet again? And, get out alive?? Because if there's anything, anywhere, as far as conspiracy theories, one thing rings clear: This kid wanted to get out alive.


Too much conjecture in that question. I'm not proposing a damn thing as to details. I wasn't there and what I have seen media wise has been too little to convince me it went down as described. Where he was, when he was or why he was I haven't a clue.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 20, 2012, 05:15:59 PM
@Lonewolf:

You and I are going to be at odds over this, I see. I've been out walking and almost covered ALL of CG's podcasts, and I'm really not impressed.

I'll save my full review until i'm finally done.

Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: Rudi Jan on August 20, 2012, 06:46:59 PM
@Lonewolf:

You and I are going to be at odds over this, I see. I've been out walking and almost covered ALL of CG's podcasts, and I'm really not impressed.

I'll save my full review until i'm finally done.

I am not hypothecating like you are. My position is simple... it was staged. I've presented what I could, what's available, what's kosher. Frankly it's just another incident in a long series of such events. Mostly about gun control. I really don't want to get stuck on this one thing. The ME is my focus.
Title: - 14 Dead in Columbine-Style Massacre at Aurora Colorado Movie Theatre
Post by: dominique on August 21, 2012, 09:51:32 AM
I am not hypothecating like you are. My position is simple... it was staged. I've presented what I could, what's available, what's kosher. Frankly it's just another incident in a long series of such events. Mostly about gun control. I really don't want to get stuck on this one thing. The ME is my focus.

Why am I "hypothecating"?

And you're not?


I'm still trying to understand why you (and CG) think it was "staged." Most everything I have seen in the media, and the logical conclusions I've derived based on Holmes' intelligence/personality/field-of-interest, leads me to believe he did this all by himself - in less than a couple of months. (Did you notice how originally the j-MSM said it was FOUR months, then switched it to two?) The kind of mind he has, if tweaked in the right direction (either by himself, or others) is fully capable of planning this out.

It's pretty clear to me that he had a psychopathic break of sorts. And perhaps fell into the mindset called "catathymia," as I posted earlier in this thead: http://www.crcnetbase.com/doi/abs/10.1201/9780203496565.ch4

What's funny to me is all of the speculation about his "weird" behavior in court. First of all, Holmes very likely was on some kind of PRESCRIBED psychotropic, and being "prescribed" it falls under HIPAA and the LEOs and the court are not at liberty to disclose that kind of info (although it will likely come out, eventually). This is the gov's and UofC's escape hatch, regarding ANYTHING to do with this case.

If he was running out of money - or patience - he may have stopped his scrip meds altogether, which can lead to as bad, if not worse, consequences. Either way, Big Pharma and their minions will go to the ends of the earth to keep this info under wraps, claiming "HIPAA" all the way (which THEY had a hand in creating). Columbine was enough bad PR - that was the catalyst for them to issue the disclaimer that psychotropics like Ritalin, Prozac, Zoloft, Adderal, etc "can cause suicidal or homicidal thoughts, especially in children." I don't think they can handle another round of negative PR, of this magnitude.

But back to his behavior. I saw a post on one of the "Aurora shooting" threads on Reddit - that was the absolute BEST coverage of scanner and first-hand reports from actual LOCALS that I've seen, btw (I think Ajax or somebody posted a timeline from there, way early on this thread). It said this:

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"I find it interesting that people are so surprised by his behavior in the courtroom. He's not just having a bad day. The level of anguish and long-term emotional disruption required to commit such horrific acts is on a level few people even comprehend. His actions since arrest do not indicate schizophrenia, and the latest information from those who knew him as a child does not indicate lifelong sociopathy.

"This is a person who has been and will now remain in a living hell. Some of his expressions would seem to say he can hardly believe he actually went through with his monstrous plans, shuffling between confusion and vaguely recognizing that it's all actually happening."

Except for what I believe is a likelihood of schizophrenia in Holmes' case, this is what I've been saying since I first saw him in the courtroom. Basically he is going crazy "all over again" now that the impact of his actions are hitting him. And he may very well be BACK on his already-prescribed meds. Although the possibility that he's being purposefully drugged to make him appear crazy and thus avoid a trial that would bring out evidence that incriminates the school, the gov't, etc, is not something I'm ruling out.

Which brings me back to that "package" he sent Fenton, and the rush to cover it up. I just wonder if he had the whole thing figured out as far as what was being done to him, and the "evidence" is in that package. A cry for help, or a plea for justice. That too, would support the idea of his desire to stay alive, to see it being served.

If you are interested, go to Reddit and start with the first "Aurora shooting" thead. There's at least a dozen or so, now.



And another thing. The gun-grabbers, with the Fourth Estate forever as their siren song, posted THIS laughable graphic (you wanted graphics, right?):

(http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/na0725_denvershooting15001.gif)


Ooooooh, and you can even download the HI-RES graphic or PDF here! http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/25/graphic-james-holmes-was-a-man-with-a-plan/

Remind anyone of "bin Laden's cave"? Well, there are knowns, there are unknowns, there are known knowns, and there are unknown knowns......you know?

Somebody in the comments ripped this right to shreds, by posting the company's explanation of exactly what they DID sell to Holmes:

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"This article is full of FAIL, utter fantasy. He did NOT have ANY ballistic armour. He had a ballistic vest, which is a nylon vest with pouches.

"This is the letter from the store where he bought the vest.
http://tacticalgear.com/news/colorado-shooting/

"This is the vest
http://tacticalgear.com/blackhawk-urban-assault-vest "

If you look at the pic of his gear all spread out, you can see this. I had a psycho boyfriend who was all into body armor, guns(military-grade, FLIR night-vision scopes and everything), and forging medieval weapons, got stuff thru his LEO buddy and this was in the 90s, and Holmes' stuff STILL isn't even close. (Actually, I'm lucky that I'm not dead, because this guy fit the intelligent/awkward/loner profile of Holmes, EXACTLY. Plus, a horrific temper to boot.)

The gas mask over on the corner, as I've said before, likely belonged to one of the LEOs. Not to mention it was photoshopped to hell and that's why the strap hangs so weird - it was originally over a folded paper containing the "knife." (This was busted out at Reddit, too.) As we all know, evidence isn't automatically frozen in time just because "POLICE LINE - DO NOT CROSS" tape is around it. The chaos that clearly ensued during and after that event was enough to warrant gear misplacement/loss (remember, they had to CALL IN for gas masks, per the scanner transcripts- could have had too many, for all we know), "evidence" misplacement and/or planting, etc...



Here's the kosher-media NBC breakdown of what the LEO's allowed him to see of the robot-camera footage of Holmes' apartment:

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Chris Hansen:
It was absolutely chilling. A short while ago, I actually got to view the law enforcement video tape that was taken inside Holmes’ apartment before the bomb was actually taken apart. And, I can almost see it like I’m watching the videotape now.

Kate Snow:
Tell us what you see.

Chris Hansen:
In the middle of his living room are dozens of black softball shaped firework shells that he bought filled with explosive power. They are all over the place. In the middle there are two jars full of liquid wires as I said all over the place there was a black box with a red blinking light. A mechanical camera then pans over on top of a glass table - you see this water cooler jug half full of bullet. Then you pan down, then you see this black box with another red blinking light. The camera goes over, there are two chairs one has a jar apparently with fluid. The other has another black box and then there are green soda pop bottles filled with fluid all the way around.

Kate Snow:
Soda bottles?

Chris Hansen:
Soda bottles. So explosive liquid inside. And then the camera pulls out and you see the actual trip wire made of fishing line.

Kate Snow:
And that across the front door.

Chris Hansen:
About it goes from the bomb all the way over to where the front door is and it is about two to three feet off the ground.

Kate Snow:
So as the police Chief said earlier, this was rigged to explode the minute someone opened that front door.

Chris Hansen:
It could have taken the building down. It was very sophisticated and very powerful. I should also add Kate, Holmes is going to be in court on Monday for his arraignment. He is now in the Arapahoe County Jail under administrative segregation for his own protection.

Kate Snow:
And this is the first time we will see James Holmes tomorrow.

Chris Hansen:
Live in court.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/smallscreen/news/article_1701159.php/NBC-Dateline-s-Sunday-July-22-excerpt-from-shooter-Holmes-apartment-reveal


Now, keep in mind that more federal bureaus have responded to this than ever before. FBI, ATF, US marshals, etc.... even Waco and Randy Weaver didn't get as much filth on their fruitcakes. You can split this two ways: Either that's part of the "coverup"; or this "genius," who quite frankly put together something (if we are to believe the description) that ANY moron could come up with after spending ten minutes on the internet, actually stumped our "infallible" (NOT) gubberment goons. And the kosher media is playing right along with the ignorant local LEOs, in building up the so-called "sophistication" of the apartment-rigging, which is clearly a yokel job.



Consider also, that Holmes' lawyers are public defenders, aka government agents. This is not a privately-funded venture per OJ's "Dream Team" which rightly fought for his acquittal (I don't think he did it anyway, but they had enough going for them to point out the incompetence and/or motives of the LEOs [like that bigot Mark Fuhrman] and the gov's "scientific experts," and the tainted evidence. Ah, but that's another topic.) Private attorneys would capitalize on the idea that Holmes really has nothing to hide - BUT, the government-sponsored university and faculty, clearly does.

But the government stooges that serve as Holmes' "defense", are playing right along like good little gov-bots.

In fact, not only did Holmes not hide anything that we know of, he actively TOLD law-enforcement of his booby-trap. This is not the mystifying element that people seem to think that it is. What it is, is someone who wants to be acknowledged for their achievement. His intro line in his dating profiles, of "Will you visit me in jail?" was a clue to the fact that he wanted to be taken alive, and get to see (this is my take, anyway) the "justice" he served to a society that failed this genius WASP boy utterly, when it came to the mega-politics of the scientific/doctoral sphere. Surely you don't need enlightenment as to how folks in the sciences are roundly despised and disenfranchised for their non-kosher thinking out-of-the-box (which I suspect that Holmes was "guilty" of). Too many to list. Tesla, and go from there.



Finally, my biggest reason that I think Holmes didn't have any accomplices, or was a scapegoat that "just showed up" to be tagged, is that his booby-trapped apartment did not go off as planned. Any small-time criminal, or a nutjob like me, knows that you can rig explosives to a cell phone, which, when called, will ignite that blast. (AND THEY FOUND A CELL PHONE IN HIS APARTMENT - while he was also said to be carrying one in the theater, on which he received the fake call that was his excuse to compromise the exit door.) So, either that's the original plan, and they're not telling us this because they don't want to give folks ideas, even though they were happy enough to inform us of this tactic regarding "Islamofascist turrerists" - or, he hadn't a clue about this idea.

If he had had an accomplice, JOB ONE for that person would be to make DAMN sure that apartment bomb went off, as the initial diversion. Wouldn't have even been needed at the theater scene.

As I have said before, I honestly believe that the Century theater was simply stop one on Holmes' journey. With the amount of ammo he was (said to be) carrying, he could have pulled this off in TEN theaters (or other late-night venues like nightclubs or diners), or more. Like dominoes falling, all local first-responders would have been consumed with the apartment-building disaster, then playing catch-up at the Century, then on and on.....from a purely analytical standpoint, it's amazing the joke Holmes would have made of "law-enforcement" at ALL levels, had he pulled off what he probably really intended. You'll never hear the controlled media speculating on this, though - it would give people ideas. I called this exactly right from the start, it's a "sexy" crime, and will spawn plenty of copycats. And one of those sociopaths WILL figure out, and carry out, the plan that Holmes intended.

If it's not MK-Ultra, it's something similar in the "Manchurian Candidate" realm. Or, he's a genius who had a psychotic break in the ~2 months AFTER his failed "oral exams" (not his forte, for sure). Both scenarios are equally believable to me.


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Post by: dominique on August 21, 2012, 09:52:31 AM
The ME is my focus.

Do you mean "Middle East"? Or were you referring to "MO" (modus operandi)?


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Post by: dominique on August 21, 2012, 10:51:56 AM

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I had heard this before. Also, for a time (briefly) on the scanner transcripts, the cops were thinking it was more than one.

What's funny is that you would post this one testimonial to support your point of multiple shooters, but at the same time his graphic description of the corpses/victims kinda tears apart your/CG's "it was staged" theory.

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Why wouldn't they? This does not affect their bottom line. Good publicity. Of course if the claim is false then they would shut up, as they have. Besides the judge has already ruled no evidence will be forthcoming until trial, if then. And there won't be a trial.

They would scare people out of applying for multiple CCs and maxing them out, for fear of being dubbed a domestic terrrorist or criminal. Not to mention the "money" (I use that term loosely) they'd lose if folks went on that kind of run. Even scarier than a bank run, by the time it's over and done.

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Nah, not much merit in that direction either. He smoked a few joints outside. Big deal. No suspicion he was dealing.

Again, consider the extraordinary substances that he probably had access to, being a researcher in the psych field. Speculation, yes, but certainly within the realm of possibility.

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We choose our poisons right? I enjoyed it for the multiplayer aspect. And not the stupid monster/beast kind. In any case sanity need not abandon one when playing these games. That is in itself yet another assumption... like guns kill, not people.

If you are already heading around the twist - either due to genetics, existential trauma, or meds either knowingly or unwittingly ingested - a first-person-shooter game is all the fantasy-cum-reality you need for inspiration.

Holmes may very well have been "breaking the fourth wall," as it were.

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Too much conjecture in that question. I'm not proposing a damn thing as to details. I wasn't there and what I have seen media wise has been too little to convince me it went down as described. Where he was, when he was or why he was I haven't a clue.

Well, what I am trying to do is use "details" - what little there are - to construct a motive.

Based on Holmes' history, it's pretty easy, really.
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Post by: dominique on August 21, 2012, 12:21:02 PM

In fact, not only did Holmes not hide anything that we know of, he actively TOLD law-enforcement of his booby-trap. This is not the mystifying element that people seem to think that it is. What it is, is someone who wants to be acknowledged for their achievement. His intro line in his dating profiles, of "Will you visit me in jail?" was a clue to the fact that he wanted to be taken alive, and get to see (this is my take, anyway) the "justice" he served to a society that failed this genius WASP boy utterly, when it came to the mega-politics of the scientific/doctoral sphere. Surely you don't need enlightenment as to how folks in the sciences are roundly despised and disenfranchised for their non-kosher thinking out-of-the-box (which I suspect that Holmes was "guilty" of). Too many to list. Tesla, and go from there.



I realized that I should probably clarify the above statement (but couldn't edit as the "modify" link keeps disappearing, among other bugs I have seeing on this forum the past few days):

What I meant to say is that the OUTLIERS of the so-called "scientific community" get hashed if their views aren't kosher and in-line with The Establishment. The scientific field is highly political: an inventor friend of mine has been kicked off of numerous messageboards thanks to his revelation of un-kosher ideas. I'm thinking that Holmes' line of thinking may have subjected him to the same, PARTICULARLY in the realm of government-sponsored, institutionalized, "science."

I think if we could find out whether that is true, and just what his "breakthroughs" may have been, it would unlock a whole new can of worms that the kosher Establishment is vestedly-uninterested in exploring.

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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 21, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
Do you mean "Middle East"? Or were you referring to "MO" (modus operandi)?

Middle East.
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Post by: dominique on August 21, 2012, 01:13:40 PM
Middle East.

Well then, I soundly admonish you for falling victim to the jew distraction/diversion of the "Middle East."


Who gives a f*ck about the so-called "Middle East"? Really? As I just said over here:
I'd just really like to know, why does ANYBODY in the Western Hemisphere give a flying fork about Syria?

Haven't we seen this same song and dance before? Starting with, at the very least, the overthrow of DEMOCRATICALLY-ELECTED Mossadeq by CIA/MI6(yeah, no Mossad ever mentioned here, right?) operatives  in Iran in 1953?? Not like we haven't dealt with puppet (kosher-installed) dictators before...

Basically, the Middle East became irrelevant about 1,000 years ago when they adopted the jew-concieved "Islam" religion. Before that, they were absolute trailblazers in the fields of mathematics, science, and philosophy.

Why anybody gives this conflict and jew-MSM-contrived "Arab Spring" any clout, is beyond me. It's entirely predictable, to the "enlightened" folks here. You would think that in a forum such as this, people would be focusing on the corruption of OUR OWN COUNTRY by the usual suspects. (And YOUR country too, LW and sushi.)

I mean, really. What's important to ME, is the corruption that has been systematically executed on our American populace and society. Please excuse me whilst I cower in my disparaged "America First" position.

By that I mean, that we are undergoing a full-frontal siege of our senses, our psyche, our values, our culture, our family and societal constructs, and our souls. What's happening in the "middle east" is predictable. What they are, is playing out the same scenario that WILL eventually happen in this country, unless people wake the fuck up. That's about all it's worth.

I have been going off about these jew-conceived first-person-shooter games since shortly after they first appeared, given that I knew somebody in the biz. They are evil, and while you are correct in that "guns don't kill people, people do," that plays in stark contrast to all of your other "the jews are behind this" mentality. (And I'm not saying that mentality is wrong or misguided.)


I would suggest that you consider the Aurora shooting as the fait accompli, and/or results, of the kosher korruption of our society. In fact, I wholly believe that this topic deserves its own section like the 9/11 attacks. Especially because the upshot - the reining in of our Second Amendment rights - is going to be even worse than the 9/11-USAPATRIOT-Act bullshit.



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Post by: Sue on August 21, 2012, 01:41:14 PM
My suggestion is skip the articles you don't want to read...

In the United States today, it is not just the economy that is crumbling. The entire fabric of society is coming apart as well. Literally almost wherever you look you can find rampant corruption in America.  Our federal government is corrupt, our state and local governments are corrupt, our corporations are corrupt and unfortunately average Americans seem to become more corrupt all the time.  As corruption becomes widespread in America, trust is breaking down.  It is very difficult to know who to trust these days.

A society cannot function without trust.

The destruction as far Middle East wars are concerned (among other reasons) is to open and establish J-Federal Reserve Banks.

(The same shysters are running Canada too!)
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Post by: dominique on August 21, 2012, 01:51:43 PM
My suggestion is skip the articles you don't want to read...

Your suggestion to whom?



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In the United States today, it is not just the economy that is crumbling. The entire fabric of society is coming apart as well. Literally almost wherever you look you can find rampant corruption in America.  Our federal government is corrupt, our state and local governments are corrupt, our corporations are corrupt and unfortunately average Americans seem to become more corrupt all the time.  As corruption becomes widespread in America, trust is breaking down.  It is very difficult to know who to trust these days.

It's a given that "Main-Street-America" small-biz entrepeneurs are becoming more corrupt, given the fact that they HAD to give in to the "corporate personhood" bullshit in order to survive financially.

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b]A society cannot function without trust.[/b]

The destruction as far Middle East wars are concerned (among other reasons) is to open and establish J-Federal Reserve Banks.

Well, I thought most of us enlightened folks knew that already.


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Post by: Sue on August 21, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Your suggestion to whom?

To whom it may apply.

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Well, I thought most of us enlightened folks knew that already.

And we do indeed. Many guests (and the odd spy) view the forum too, so what we post will either be beneficial or a complete turn-off for some.
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Post by: jacob gold on August 21, 2012, 02:26:40 PM
Holmes - Holmes  - Holmes

The Aurora shooting benefits the Zio gun control agenda. It's similar to Port Arthur in Australia, Dunblane, Canadian shootings, etc etc.
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Post by: dominique on August 21, 2012, 02:28:04 PM
Many guests (and the odd spy) view the forum too

I would say that the "odd spy" is probably the majority of your viewers. Not that this makes any difference.


What does any of this have to do with the topic?

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Post by: dominique on August 21, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
Holmes - Holmes  - Holmes

The Aurora shooting benefits the Zio gun control agenda. It's similar to Port Arthur in Australia, Dunblane, Canadian shootings, etc etc.

If you're a simpleton - or a jew plant - then yes, this one-dimensional, limited theory makes sense.

Didn't you say you were done posting on Aurora (and other) threads? Drop dead, and get done with your disinfo already.


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Post by: jacob gold on August 21, 2012, 03:15:26 PM
If you're a simpleton - or a jew plant - then yes, this one-dimensional, limited theory makes sense.

Didn't you say you were done posting on Aurora (and other) threads? Drop dead, and get done with your disinfo already.


I said I was done saying Holmes was Jewish. But if you want Ms Dominica, than I will not post on this thread.

My sincerest apologies
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Post by: dominique on August 21, 2012, 04:33:56 PM

I said I was done saying Holmes was Jewish. But if you want Ms Dominica, than I will not post on this thread.

My sincerest apologies

I don't care if you post, or not. Just drop dead, is all I ask.

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Post by: dominique on August 21, 2012, 06:12:24 PM
What's really telling is that ziobot jewriosity never changed his original title of FOURTEEN dead.

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Post by: laconas on August 21, 2012, 07:11:36 PM
I don't care if you post, or not. Just drop dead, is all I ask.

It almost sounds like you two guys are having a lover's quarrel. :)
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Post by: jacob gold on August 21, 2012, 07:30:21 PM
It almost sounds like you two guys are having a lover's quarrel. :)


She (Domino) does have a profound interest in the aurora killer being exposed as jewish
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Post by: jacob gold on August 21, 2012, 07:36:10 PM
I don't care if you post, or not. Just drop dead, is all I ask.


So it's ok if I post?
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Post by: dominique on August 22, 2012, 06:42:40 AM

She (Domino) does have a profound interest in the aurora killer being exposed as jewish

You haven't "exposed" anything, except your own propensity to divert and deceive.

And by the way, I could care less if Holmes WERE jewish, what annoys me is you trolls fixating on that. It wouldn't make much difference either way.

Prove that Holmes is jewish. Something, anything.
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Post by: OldTimes on August 22, 2012, 01:17:16 PM
She (Domino) does have a profound interest in the aurora killer being exposed as jewish

I took the trouble of counting:  out of the last 80 posts on this thread, 38 are hers, or about half.  Before that it was about 30% of the posts, but curiosity & gelignite were making up the other 20%.
Interesting phenomenon.
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Post by: jacob gold on August 22, 2012, 01:24:25 PM
I took the trouble of counting:  out of the last 80 posts on this thread, 38 are hers, or about half.  Before that it was about 30% of the posts, but curiosity & gelignite were making up the other 20%.
Interesting phenomenon.


This is Lone Wolf's board, and you and miss sushi are his representives  ....... I will follow anything you three say  ..... but Ms Dominio cannot give me orders.
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Post by: dominique on August 22, 2012, 01:29:34 PM
I took the trouble of counting:  out of the last 80 posts on this thread, 38 are hers, or about half.  Before that it was about 30% of the posts, but curiosity & gelignite were making up the other 20%.
Interesting phenomenon.

Right. Yeah, that's it. I'm a jew-lover.  ::)

Let me explain something to you: I found this event of the Aurora shooting to be the most traumatic event since 9/11. It has upset me greatly. In coming back to this board, I guess I was hoping to find some kind of solace in others who were upset for the same reasons I was, but in the circa 11 pages or so before I started posting (originally to put forth my theory about his obvious mental illness and susceptibility to the allure of first-person-shooter games), I did not find that.

Compound that with the usual suspects' overkill about calling anyone and everyone a jew, to the exclusion (as LoneWolf put it) of all other factors.

If I come across as abrasive, it's for a very simple reason: I'm out of patience.

Our kids are wrecked, our economy is wrecked, our media, military, and politicians are all corrupt and co-opted, and all some of you simpletons want to do is speculate whether so-and-so (including posters, especially) is a jew? Gimme a break.


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Post by: dominique on August 22, 2012, 01:34:13 PM

This is Lone Wolf's board, and you and miss sushi are his representives  ....... I will follow anything you three say  ..... but Ms Dominio cannot give me orders.

Oh, but YOU can give ME orders? Like ordering me not to express the opinion that I wish somebody would assassinate Nuttyahoo?

You and Nutty can BOTH drop dead.
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Post by: OldTimes on August 22, 2012, 01:46:44 PM
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Like ordering me not to express the opinion that I wish somebody would assassinate Nuttyahoo?

You and Nutty can BOTH drop dead.

Careful, this sounds very-much like an implied threat to me.

If I come across as abrasive, it's for a very simple reason: I'm out of patience.

Our kids are wrecked, our economy is wrecked, our media, military, and politicians are all corrupt and co-opted, and all some of you simpletons want to do is speculate whether so-and-so (including posters, especially) is a jew? Gimme a break.

You are out of patience?  What about the rest of us?  Half the posts going back 5 pages are yours!

The problems in our country aren't going to get solved until the people start waking up to the nature of that problem, and the fact is it's a jew problem.  All of this is relevant!  It's important to discuss these things rationally and you are making it very difficult to do so!
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Post by: dominique on August 22, 2012, 02:05:26 PM
Careful, this sounds very-much like an implied threat to me.

You are out of patience?  What about the rest of us?  Half the posts going back 5 pages are yours!

God forbid I lay mostly silent for years and then start posting about something that upsets me. You got a secret quota system in place, or something?

And btw, I've told Jake to drop dead about four times now. You just picking up on this, mod?



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The problems in our country aren't going to get solved until the people start waking up to the nature of that problem, and the fact is it's a jew problem.  All of this is relevant! 


Well, the fact that it's a jew problem I fully concur with you on.

However, as LW has stated, the trolls want to take the focus off of the broader issues of jewish corruption of our society, and drill it down to the simpleton-level of the (alleged) perp being a jew. If you think there's value in that - when he clearly isn't, besides - then I pity you.


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It's important to discuss these things rationally and you are making it very difficult to do so!

So ban me, then. I'm at the end of my patience with people who enable disrupters and criticize those who are fed up with them.


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Post by: Sue on August 22, 2012, 02:35:23 PM

If I come across as abrasive, it's for a very simple reason: I'm out of patience.

Simple: Just request a meeting and tell the current President (Ethiopian 'chosen' Gramsci student Oh'bummer) to take a hike.

Problem solved! Next!

Being out of patience gives you no right whatsoever to insult fellow posters. Please stop this now. 
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Post by: dominique on August 22, 2012, 03:27:36 PM

Simple: Just request a meeting and tell the current President (Ethiopian 'chosen' Gramsci student Oh'bummer) to take a hike.


Yeah, simple.

As much as I can't stand Obama, it looks like foreign-policy wise, we're in for even worse with Romney, should he win.

Nothing else will change, the banksters will still get off scot-free as usual, and the jew degradation of our society and economy will continue.
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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 23, 2012, 08:08:32 PM
You are accepting the official version. There was some chatter that Cho was not alone. At the very least he was allowed to carry on with very little interference from the authorities. In any case he comitted 'suicide' - case closed. No investigation of any worth followed.

Police response was not very good though admittedly a tough situation for them.  Suicide is convenient for authoritays but fits personality type of mass murderers.  I consider the official version plausible not definitive.

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Yeah, but why, and by whom? And why no alarm. If that easy wouldn't every theater be filled to capacity even though the box office only sold a handful of tickets?

Possible that alarm was routinely turned off to avoid disruption & that Holmes could have tested it at an earlier time?  Filled theater probably had numerous folks walking around during showing & modern folks can be pretty oblivious.

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Go spend some time on the range as far as assuming every bullet makes impact. Recoil generally sends rounds upward.

Recoil might be an issue for true assault weapons with auto-fire.  Otherwise even for a shooter with limited skill should be doable to roughly re-aim into crowd within 2-3 seconds.  Now I check on Wiki that states that 70 were shot so if we posit that half of shots missed then "Holmes" fired 140 rounds in 3 minutes, slightly more than 2 seconds per shot.  OTOH Wiki says that 2nd gun used (after limited-capacity shotgun) was the S & W rifle w/100-round magazine which supposedly jammed after about 30 rounds leaving Holmes to the Glock which would have had to fire approx 30+ rounds at a very minimum & around 60+ assuming half of shots missed.

So I agree, # of rounds fired is suspicious esp since my calculations above don't even consider time to reload/switch guns.

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Either way. He had no cash, period. Furthermore nothing in his history indicated a fascination with weapons or SWAT gear or being a wanna-be cop.

Do we have detailed Holmes financial info?  Parents were not poor & might well have provided allowance and/or helped with tuition/housing costs. 

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We only have their word that this rigging of explosives took place. See any pics? Any diagrams.? Even any of the usual cartoons, you know, like the one at Tora Bora?

Perhaps cops deliberately kited a bogus "rigged with explosives" idea to provide cover for slow investigation?  Look at Miami "face eater" where cops floated the bath-salts rumor that was taken as fact by MSM.  Could well be that cops now know that mass-shootings are so politically sensitive that they need to wait for PTB to tell them what the official version is?  Admittedly it's almost always blamed on the lone nut but even if shooting actually done by a lone nut PTB still has to decide on details of shooter's motivation, history etc.  Cops have convenient cover in that prosecutors surely won't even need "rigged explosives" as evidence.  So IMO "explosives" could be a lie that doesn't necessarily indicate a psy-op plot.

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So Charlie is a jew? How pathetic. Such a catch all for you isn't it?
I don't take everything others have to say as gospel. I suggested his audio because it covers a lot of ground. I have my own mind and avoid polluting it with mainstream media lies and deceptions.

Never said that "we can't trust C Giuliani 'cause he's a jew".  OTOH Charlie & his ilk can make $$ & hay by bitching about ZOG (which isn't terribly hard to discern from Wall St/Treasury/Fed leaders) but sometimes dislike suggesting or exploring crypto issues.  Charlie flat out says that Holmes ain't a jew but IIRC leaves it at that.  Wondering how CG treated the Loughner-jewish possibility?

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In any case your incisive analysis has successfully debunked the doubts and sold me on the official story. Thanks to you I won't have to look any further into what happened or bother with analyzing the official stories. I was absolutely worng to doubt them and will sleep better knowing our terrorist fighters are keeping us all safe. I'll be sure to turn in my guns before the guns turn on me.

Again I haven't said either that Holmes was definitely a lone nut nor that he was definitely jewish.  Psy-ops certainly exist both run by gov't and/or private groups.  However in re Qui Bono, I'm not sure if the gov't/zio gun-grabbing theory is operative here.  Yes gun-removal is a long-time aim of them but we've seen many mass-shootings in recent years but little moves (despite Bloomberg's strident efforts) to introduce new gun-grabbing statutes.  As for Obama's re-election campaign, Aurora is a wash.  Seems that if Aurora was a psy-op there would be more of a political angle in play like OKC.  Political calculus:  most gun-grabbers are Democrat & even for Democrats gun-grabbing is rarely single-issue litmus test.  So Obama would seem to have little benefit from promoting gun-grabbing thru Aurora.  Furthermore despite right-wing babbling about "Marxist" Obama his first & virtually only priority is to follow London/Zio program of bank bailouts and wars.


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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 23, 2012, 08:41:10 PM
    But if Holmes is jewish there would be more clues left around.  So if it seems like skeptics are leaning to the "he's jewish" angle it's sort of natural only.

What does this mean?  Sorry, i meant that if Holmes was gentile there would have been more clues.

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This is exactly right. And if Holmes is at all jewish, it's a fraction. Either way, it pales in significance to all of the other factors, but you'd never know it from reading all the trolls' input on this thread.

Holmes does not look particularly jewish though that's hardly proof.  IMO could easily he at least half-jewish.    I don't agree that possibility of him being jewish pales in significance.  Might be a big factor since many jews have an essentially psychopathic attitude to gentile society.  OTOH yes, lots of disgruntled gentile sickos.

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LOL. Yeah, EB tends to use a lot of words (another j diversionary tactic) to finally end up pushing the "party line."

On old tv cartoon Beavis and Butthead, Butthead is attempting to read an OTC medicine label, says "Words...words...uuhhh".  I'm not trying to divert anyone or push a party line, just trying to explore where the details might lead.  Right now I'm not buying into any particular theory, I'm trying to push debate within reasonable limits.
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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 23, 2012, 09:04:53 PM
Prove that Holmes is jewish. Something, anything.

Again asking for absolute proof is a zio-disinfo tactic.  Holmes worked at Hebrew "Max Straus Camp". 

TMS photo, deliberately held at lo-res but apparently shows mostly zio kids with a sprinkling of blacks & one cute blonde shiksa (sexual entertainment for camp owners and friends?).  Camp counselor is a fairly cushy job; entirely likely that bulk of those positions were reserved for hebrews (who were paid twice as much?).
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/22/0722-james-holmes-wm-arrow-2.jpg)

Another smaller group photo including Holmes, here they ALL look ~jewish:

(http://www.howtoplayguitarhero.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/3bccarticle-2177065-14291370000005DC-778_634x360.jpg)
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Post by: Sue on August 23, 2012, 09:16:31 PM
Yeah, simple.

As much as I can't stand Obama, it looks like foreign-policy wise, we're in for even worse with Romney, should he win.

Nothing else will change, the banksters will still get off scot-free as usual, and the jew degradation of our society and economy will continue.

I think the whole voting business is just another 'industry', they know exactly who will ''win'', the 'candidates' have been groomed and the 'winner' was chosen long before any phoney elections.
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Post by: laconas on August 23, 2012, 09:26:12 PM
I think the whole voting business is just another 'industry', they know exactly who will ''win'', the 'candidates' have been groomed and the 'winner' was chosen long before any phoney elections.

Yes, that's true, but look at all the good. Look at all the jobs our democracy 'industry' creates.
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Post by: dominique on August 23, 2012, 09:30:06 PM
Again asking for absolute proof is a zio-disinfo tactic. 

So you are calling me a jew, is that it? And LoneWolf too, who has demanded proof from you trolls for these assertions? I'll be sure to let him know.

You guys can't just provide proof for this Very Important Assertion and be done with it? Instead, you have to follow the formula in my sig line by trying to put ME on the defensive for asking a legitimate question? Sorry pal, ain't gonna happen.

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Holmes worked at Hebrew "Max Straus Camp". 

I have already disproven this oft-repeated piece of disinfo TWICE on this thread. And I'm not going to waste even MORE of my time looking it up, so find it yourself, which I doubt you care to do, since your MO is precisely to waste my time as part of your diversion.
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Post by: dominique on August 23, 2012, 09:33:23 PM
I think the whole voting business is just another 'industry', they know exactly who will ''win'', the 'candidates' have been groomed and the 'winner' was chosen long before any phoney elections.

I've always thought this, but this time it does look like the wheels are coming off of the (s)election-machine just a bit. I smell desperation in the air.

But like that guy said in another article I posted, "either way we'll end up with a Harvard grad who wipes his ass with the Constitution."
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Post by: Sue on August 23, 2012, 09:41:24 PM
Yes, that's true, but look at all the good. Look at all the jobs our democracy 'industry' creates.

Oh, I know, I know, they do exactly the same here. Job creation (part time).
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Post by: laconas on August 23, 2012, 10:43:50 PM
Oh, I know, I know, they do exactly the same here. Job creation (part time).

The spent the whole of the 20th Century bringing 'democracy' to every corner of the world. I wonder how it's going to turn out in the 21C?
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 23, 2012, 10:49:30 PM
Again I haven't said either that Holmes was definitely a lone nut nor that he was definitely jewish.  Psy-ops certainly exist both run by gov't and/or private groups.  However in re Qui Bono, I'm not sure if the gov't/zio gun-grabbing theory is operative here.  Yes gun-removal is a long-time aim of them but we've seen many mass-shootings in recent years but little moves (despite Bloomberg's strident efforts) to introduce new gun-grabbing statutes.  As for Obama's re-election campaign, Aurora is a wash.  Seems that if Aurora was a psy-op there would be more of a political angle in play like OKC.  Political calculus:  most gun-grabbers are Democrat & even for Democrats gun-grabbing is rarely single-issue litmus test.  So Obama would seem to have little benefit from promoting gun-grabbing thru Aurora.  Furthermore despite right-wing babbling about "Marxist" Obama his first & virtually only priority is to follow London/Zio program of bank bailouts and wars.

They failed on overturning the constitutional caveat against violating the people's natural right to free speech. They tried to buy the media, which they did but then along came a new media, the internet. They have also failed to circumvent the 2nd constitutional prohibition against trying to take the people's arms. But they don't stop. They're busy trying to buy the net while doing their best to regulate it. They must take the arms away else they might be able to impose tyranny for a short while but only for a short while. This is the overarching agenda, which we all pretty much can agree on. Knowing that, these 'events' become obvious as to motive. As to method, they are bureaucrats and incapable of original thought so when these events are unleashed their hand is pretty clear. That may not all be factual but it rolls on common sense. I don't really think it necessary to over analyze their moves... except to discover with some certainty that it was their move.
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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 25, 2012, 08:04:25 PM
So you are calling me a jew, is that it? And LoneWolf too, who has demanded proof from you trolls for these assertions? I'll be sure to let him know.

No, you worthless liar, I'm saying you use troll tactics that are commonly employed by jews when pushing their POV & silencing opposition when they feel their interests are threatened.  I haven't seen you PROVE ANYTHING on your recent spate of posts.

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I have already disproven this oft-repeated piece of disinfo TWICE on this thread. And I'm not going to waste even MORE of my time looking it up, so find it yourself, which I doubt you care to do, since your MO is precisely to waste my time as part of your diversion.

Lying again,  you're insinuating that folks who realize that Straus camp is jewish think that ALL counselors and campers are jews.  Straus camp claims to be a charity for poor kids & only intended for jewish kids during Channukah.  Even if we take their word (& we shouldn't forget that most jewish charities direct their efforts to fellow chosen) it still doesn't mean that a large proportion of staff wasn't jewish.

RE Holmes was definitely a Lutheran because you mentioned that assertion a couple of times (w/o links!)?  Yup, one can "prove" Hugh Hefner is a Methodist, Wiki says it's so!.  Wiki says Holmes family attended a Lutheran church but their citation link for that turns up 404, wow.   ???

Also Wiki's Holmes article doesn't even name the camp, esp notable since that info is easy to find.  Summer camps are very common in USA so we might wonder why Holmes worked at a jewish-run camp.  Could be that Holmes is gentile & just had an innocent reason ie it was close to Holmes' residence or he got the job thru school etc.  Perhaps jewish kids are so spoiled the camp couldn't find enough to fully staff the camp.  But who knows?
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 25, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
So you are calling me a jew, is that it? And LoneWolf too, who has demanded proof from you trolls for these assertions?

I wasn't demanding per se... but absent proof  one can't merely assert and have it accepted as fact. But that's no reason for name calling, asking people to drop dead, asserting your opinion and asking questions based on untested assumptions and presumptions as handed out by the MSM and as well, the alternative media.
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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 25, 2012, 09:13:19 PM
They failed on overturning the constitutional caveat against violating the people's natural right to free speech. They tried to buy the media, which they did but then along came a new media, the internet. They have also failed to circumvent the 2nd constitutional prohibition against trying to take the people's arms. But they don't stop. They're busy trying to buy the net while doing their best to regulate it. They must take the arms away else they might be able to impose tyranny for a short while but only for a short while. This is the overarching agenda, which we all pretty much can agree on. Knowing that, these 'events' become obvious as to motive. As to method, they are bureaucrats and incapable of original thought so when these events are unleashed their hand is pretty clear. That may not all be factual but it rolls on common sense. I don't really think it necessary to over analyze their moves... except to discover with some certainty that it was their move.

The gun-grabbing is a long-term project, like a slow-turning ratchet.  Wash DC has resisted Supreme Court Heller decision with numerous bureaucratic obstacles.  Where it ends I don't know but as far as using guns to resist tyranny, cops now have their SWAT tanks plus we already have National Guard which was long ago changed from a militia to a domestic army.  Avg folks at a decided disadvantage in firepower even without further gun-grabbing.

But yes, PTB will eventually pursue it further.  For right now their main agenda is to continue bankster theft, endless wars & austerity.  Actually one might figure that Aurora-type incidents benefit PTB more as a distraction from that agenda than as immediate cause for more gun-grabbing. 
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 25, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
But yes, PTB will eventually pursue it further.  For right now their main agenda is to continue bankster theft, endless wars & austerity.  Actually one might figure that Aurora-type incidents benefit PTB more as a distraction from that agenda than as immediate cause for more gun-grabbing.

Absolutely. It's approaching full tilt boogie time for the chosen. Steal it all, take it all, own it all.
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Post by: dominique on September 05, 2012, 07:52:49 AM
No, you worthless liar, I'm saying you use troll tactics that are commonly employed by jews when pushing their POV & silencing opposition when they feel their interests are threatened.  I haven't seen you PROVE ANYTHING on your recent spate of posts.

OK, YOU "worthless liar," and lazy and disinfo besides, just for you:

James Holmes is a Lutheran:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastor-recalls-colorado-shooting-suspect-as-loner-christians-offer-counseling-to-families-78682/

Now, as an ex-Lutheran myself, I can fully understand that this guy would be the one for the j-ws to demonize, since Martin Luther himself was a so-called "anti-Semite."



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Lying again,  you're insinuating that folks who realize that Straus camp is jewish think that ALL counselors and campers are jews.  Straus camp claims to be a charity for poor kids & only intended for jewish kids during Channukah.  Even if we take their word (& we shouldn't forget that most jewish charities direct their efforts to fellow chosen) it still doesn't mean that a large proportion of staff wasn't jewish.

Also Wiki's Holmes article doesn't even name the camp, esp notable since that info is easy to find.  Summer camps are very common in USA so we might wonder why Holmes worked at a jewish-run camp.  Could be that Holmes is gentile & just had an innocent reason ie it was close to Holmes' residence or he got the job thru school etc.  Perhaps jewish kids are so spoiled the camp couldn't find enough to fully staff the camp.  But who knows?

Now, I'll do you homework for you for the THIRD time and cite this post:

http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg226731#msg226731

http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23964.msg226773#msg226773

Here's my original post:
Umm, hate ta break it to ya, but....

"Holmes, the staffer said, was not Jewish.  During the summer, Camp Max Straus serves a primarily non-Jewish population of low-income and disadvantaged youths through Jewish Big Brothers/Big Sisters.
During the holiday season, the organiztion runs a Chanuka Camp."

http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/former_jewish_camp_staffer_worked_closely_with_james_holmes_20120722/

Oh, and by the way, you people are ignorant of what that organization is. Holmes was ONLY a counselor, for the summer. Not a Big Brother. He had 10 kids in his charge. Jewish Big Brothers (and Sisters) have ONE child as their ONGOING charge. How can you people not know this about BB/BS in general??

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RE Holmes was definitely a Lutheran because you mentioned that assertion a couple of times (w/o links!)?  Yup, one can "prove" Hugh Hefner is a Methodist, Wiki says it's so!.  Wiki says Holmes family attended a Lutheran church but their citation link for that turns up 404, wow.   ???

See above.

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Post by: dominique on September 05, 2012, 07:57:33 AM
Oh and by the way, "EyeBelieveInJewishSupremacy"... your hero Larouche is about as big of disinfo as you can get. Yeah, I used to be a fan, as did my father. Even bought the book, "Railroad!"

So, there isn't any trick of his that you can throw out, that I don't already know. You are busted.
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Post by: jacob gold on September 05, 2012, 08:06:33 AM
(http://trendwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/0720-james-holmes-orange-prison-wm-2.jpg)
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Post by: dominique on September 05, 2012, 09:35:28 AM
(http://trendwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/0720-james-holmes-orange-prison-wm-2.jpg)

Yeah, and what's THAT supposed to mean?

Obviously, you have no idea of how a "closeup shot" works. As you move in, the vector changes and your nose gets bigger in comparison to the ratio of your other features, since it's the closest to the lens. This is what is going on in the above photo. You'll see that this trend is big amongst the Gen-Z crowd. Girls, particularly, like to photo themselves this way because it makes their heads bigger and their bodies smaller, i.e., thinner.

Why not post some of the OTHER shots of Holmes, none of which show this? Oh, I know why....

Ever wonder why, when you're watching baseball, the pitcher looks like he could practically step on the batter? Same thing, in reverse. Telephoto, instead of macro.

Honestly, you so-called geniuses are dumb as all hell when it comes to understanding anything visual. Here I am, six or so years in, and your learning curve STILL hasn't progressed.

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Post by: jacob gold on September 05, 2012, 12:43:14 PM
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Honestly, you so-called geniuses are dumb as all hell when it comes to understanding anything visual. Here I am, six or so years in, and your learning curve STILL hasn't progressed.


What did I do?
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Post by: EyeBelieve on September 05, 2012, 06:26:37 PM
Oh and by the way, "EyeBelieveInJewishSupremacy"... your hero Larouche is about as big of disinfo as you can get. Yeah, I used to be a fan, as did my father. Even bought the book, "Railroad!"

So, there isn't any trick of his that you can throw out, that I don't already know. You are busted.

LaRouche is debatable.  I used to be a die-hard anarch-lib but just watched his tv show out of curiousity.  But as time went on I started to have doubts about the whole Austrian scheme esp in last few years where globalism has proved to be a disaster.  Ron Paul & Austrians want free-trade & no gov't investment in infrastructure.  Only problem is that historically this has never worked to produce prosperity.  Quite outside of any LaRouche influence I was surprised, while reading Mises' Human Action, that while he gave much praise to British "capitalist" system, he virtually ignored their brutal conquest & exploitation of India, saying only that it was a bonus for India since it 'taught them capitalist methods' LOL.  Also Mises criticized German investment in autobahns, saying that the (crappy dangerous) British roads were sensibly thrifty.
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Post by: dominique on September 19, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
This "gag order" thing is getting ridiculous. The guy gets ten new counts against him and the public isn't even allowed to know what they are?



Prosecutors seek to add 10 charges against theater shooting suspect
By John Ingold The Denver Post The Denver Post
Posted:
   
DenverPost.com
 

CENTENNIAL — Prosecutors have filed a motion to add 10 new charges in the case against alleged Aurora movie theater killer James Holmes and have asked to amend 17 others.

The additional charges would bring the total counts Holmes faces to 152, according to filing made Tuesday.

Prosecutors also filed a separate motion to amend 16 counts of attempted murder and the one count of crime-of-violence sentence enhancement against Holmes.

Casimir Spencer, a spokeswoman for the 18th Judicial District Attorney's office, said a gag order in the case prevented her from commenting on the filings.

The motions were disclosed in the case's register of actions — which provides a shorthand summary of case activity. The register does not provide details on what the additional charges would be or how the existing charges would be amended.

Details about the new charges are expected to be discussed Thursday at a hearing in Holmes' case. The judge in the case — 18th Judicial District Chief Judge William Sylvester — must approve the change to the charges.

Holmes already faces 142 counts — including 24 counts of first-degree murder and 116 counts of attempted first-degree murder, plus one count of possession of an explosive device and one count of sentence enhancement for allegedly committing a crime of violence.

The murder and attempted murder counts represent two counts for each slain and wounded victim — one each of murder or attempted murder after deliberation and one of murder or attempted murder with extreme indifference.

The proposed amended attempted-murder counts concern charges related to eight victims. The proposed changes could be as small as fixing the spelling of victims' names. The original complaint spelled some victims' names inaccurately and appeared to list one wounded victim twice.

Thursday's hearing is expected to focus more on whether a notebook Holmes mailed to his psychiatrist prior to the shootings is protected by doctor-patient privilege. Holmes' attorneys say it is. Prosecutors say they should be able to look at it for potential evidence in the case.

A hearing on the issue last month ended without resolution.

John Ingold: 303-954-1068, jingold@denverpost.com or twitter.com/john_ingold

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21584139/prosecutors-add-10-new-charges-against-aurora-theater
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Post by: dominique on September 19, 2012, 04:28:28 PM
Was this one of the charges?  ???

Colorado: Accused Dark Knight Killer Flashed by Traffic Cam
Short-yellow red light camera trap in Aurora, Colorado ensnares suspected mass murderer.

(http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/pix/joker.jpg)

James Holmes, the man standing trial for a July 20 killing spree, had been flashed by a red light camera headed in the direction of the Aurora, Colorado movie theater just ten days before the attack. Holmes was taken into custody after twelve movie-goers were murdered and fifty-eight injured at the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises. Police responding to the murder scene impounded Holmes' white 2000 Hyundai Tiburon which was found in the Century 16 theater parking lot.

The same car was photographed at noon on July 10 turning left from East Mississippi Avenue onto South Abilene Street, headed north about a mile and a half from the theater. Holmes was in custody before the ticket was mailed, and it is not known whether he ever saw the tell-tale flash in his rear-view mirror.

As can be seen from the video of the violation taken by Xerox (formerly Affiliated Computer Services), Holmes was just a few feet from the crosswalk when the light changed from yellow to red and the camera flashed. The yellow warning signal lasted just 2.9 seconds -- below the federal minimum requirement established by the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) in the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD).

"MUTCD (Section 4D.10) provides guidance regarding the duration of yellow change interval," FHWA's 2009 issue brief on Engineering Countermeasures to Reduce Red-Light Running explained. "It indicates that the duration of the yellow change interval should be approximately 3 to 6 seconds, with longer intervals reserved for high-speed approaches. The MUTCD does not provide guidance regarding the calculation of clearance interval durations other than to provide ranges of acceptable values... Using a yellow change interval length less than 3 seconds may violate driver expectancy and result in frequent entry on red indications. If the interval is too short, rear-end crashes may result."

In Baltimore, Maryland, District Judge Keith E. Mathews argued the MUTCD standards must be followed for safety reasons. In a scathing report to then-Mayor (now Governor) Martin O'Malley, Mathews "highly recommended" the signal timing be corrected.

"Most alarming are instances when the inconsistent yellow light times have been less than the 3 second federal minimum," Judge Mathews wrote. "Nearly 10 percent of the 181 citations surveyed had a yellow light prior to the red light of 2.9 seconds. This is inconsistent with federal standards and presents a grave danger to Baltimore city drivers."

Internal company documents obtained from a 2001 trial in San Diego, California show the vendor now operating as Xerox-ACS deliberately targeted intersections with excessively short yellow signal timing for the installation of red light cameras (view documents).

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Post by: dominique on September 19, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
OK mods -

Tried embedding video in previous post 3 ways (actually four - i tried using the "html" tags and that didn't work AT ALL)

Still not working. I give up.

I looked at your "Embedding" thread for tips. Doesn't seem to help.

Somebody please clue me in?? This is getting really frustrating. I embed video all the time on other sites and have NEVER had this problem. What's different, here?
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Post by: Sue on September 19, 2012, 04:42:28 PM
Done! I used html tags, works like a charm.

html] your video link [/html

plus you need to close the brackets of course. [...]
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Post by: dominique on September 19, 2012, 05:39:53 PM
Done! I used html tags, works like a charm.

html] your video link [/html

plus you need to close the brackets of course. [...]

I said I already tried that, and it didn't work.

It said something on the "embedding" thread about only mods being able to use the "html" tags, is that maybe why?
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Post by: wag on September 19, 2012, 05:40:15 PM
He fits the killer profile - cinnamon tree scented :o
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Post by: dominique on September 19, 2012, 05:45:58 PM
He fits the killer profile - cinnamon tree scented :o

Honestly, I've always thought those tree-scent thingys were a black thing.

Those, and the crown ones on the dashboard.
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Post by: wag on September 19, 2012, 06:03:33 PM
Honestly, I've always thought those tree-scent thingys were a black thing.

I liked the green ones, pine scented. 
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Post by: EyeBelieve on September 19, 2012, 06:38:04 PM
I said I already tried that, and it didn't work.

It said something on the "embedding" thread about only mods being able to use the "html" tags, is that maybe why?


This works:
1. go to the youtube page with that video
2.  click the "Share" button
3.  click the embed button
4.  copy all the text in the box that appears
5.  go back to your post, click the Flash button (red "f" button)
6.  paste, then delete everything you pasted except for http://www.youtube.com/v/D7K1pQdATS0?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
7.  you can adjust size of video window by changing Flash screen size from default of 200,200

works for most youtube vids AFAIK

http://www.youtube.com/v/D7K1pQdATS0?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
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Post by: dominique on September 19, 2012, 09:45:23 PM
Thx EB, I'll try that next time. I notice the link from the embed code is a little different than just the straight hyperlink - maybe that's the difference from what I did.

Usually, on a website or blog, I can just paste the embed code in, but then again that's different than posting to someone else's messageboard.

I notice the posts where sushi modified them to get the video working I can't edit now, or I would make the vids smaller.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on September 21, 2012, 09:08:45 AM
I said I already tried that, and it didn't work.

It said something on the "embedding" thread about only mods being able to use the "html" tags, is that maybe why?

html as a tag is reserved for admins/mods. It cannot be used by regular members. Security issue.
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Post by: dominique on October 04, 2012, 04:46:09 AM

New Mug Shot of Movie Massacre Suspect Released
Photo showing James Holmes' orange-red hair gone is released after court appearance on two-month anniversary of tragedy.
By DANIEL MACHT and Sam Schulz
|  Friday, Sep 21, 2012  |  Updated 12:03 PM EDT

(http://media.nbcnewyork.com/images/654*368/James-Holmes-Split.jpg)



Accused “Dark Knight” killer James Holmes appears in a new booking photo wide-eyed and with his formerly shaggy, orange-red hair now brown and closely cropped.

Authorities released the mug shot after a court appearance by Holmes on Thursday, the two-month anniversary of the July 20 Colorado movie theater massacre. The photo also shows Holmes' mutton chops gone.

According to reports, Holmes appeared more alert than in previous appearances since being charged with killing 12 people and wounding 58 at an Aurora theater during a midnight screening of "The Dark Knight Rises."

In the days following the shooting, an image of Holmes in court with bright orange hair, looking dazed and disoriented, dominated media coverage.

Holmes appeared in court Thursday as prosecutors said they were giving up their fight for access to a notebook Holmes mailed a university psychiatrist just before the killings.

They told the court they weren't going to pursue the notebook now because they didn't want to delay court proceedings further and because they would probably gain access to it in the future, anyway, since they expect Holmes' lawyers to pursue an insanity defense, NBC News reported. If Holmes pleads guilty, the notebook will no longer be protected by doctor-patient privilege, they said.

The court had earlier blocked prosecutors from accessing the notebook, ruling that they could not prove that Holmes did not have a doctor-patient relationship with the psychiatrist, Dr. Lynne Fenton, to whom he had mailed it.

The package containing that notebook, which reportedly contained descriptions of killings, did not arrive before Holmes' alleged rampage.

Clad in body armor and heavily armed, Holmes is accused of having fired at random on an audience on the opening night of "The Dark Knight Rises." Police said he told them "I'm the Joker" when they apprehended him outside afterward and told them he had booby-trapped his apartment with explosives.

Holmes has been charged with 142 counts stemming from the tragedy and the judge in the case Thursday approved a motion Thursday to add 10 additional attempted murder charges and amend 17 others, The Associated Press reported.

Status hearings were set Thursday for Oct. 11 and for Oct. 25.
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Post by: dominique on October 04, 2012, 04:51:49 AM
So, let's see...(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_james_holmes_mugshot_ll_120723_wg.jpg) (http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/ap_james_holmes_ll_120920_wblog.jpg)

In side-by-side comparison of these mugshots, he's got the same dilated-pupil wall-eyes, but now, his ENTIRE expression yells "crazy" and/or "drugged," not just his eyes. Combine that of course, with the weird behavior.

This just gets more and more strange. What in the hell are they DOING to this kid? What do they have him on? Will we ever find out?

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Post by: dominique on October 04, 2012, 05:06:08 AM
Documents in movie shooting case show Holmes sent texts
by Gary Strauss, USA TODAY
Updated 5d 16h ago


Prosecutors handling the mass murder case against suspect James Holmes plan to use a series of text messages sent to a fellow student as evidence against the University of Colorado graduate program dropout.

Documents released Friday by the Arapahoe County District Court showed that Holmes sent a series of text messages to an unidentified colleague before the July 20 shooting spree at a suburban Denver movie complex in Aurora. Twelve Century 16 theatergoers were killed; another 57 were wounded.

Details of the text messages were not revealed in a batch of court filings released Friday under a long-standing request by several media organizations, including Gannett, parent company of USA Today. Key information, such as Holmes' arrest warrant and other details surrounding his arrest -- other than his birthday (Dec. 13) and height and weight (5'11, 150 pounds) -- remain sealed.

But the text messages could show Holmes' state of mind leading up to the shootings and back the Aurora Police assertions that Holmes' actions were premeditated.

Holmes, 24, purchased several weapons before dropping out of the university's doctoral program June 10, three days after failing a final exam. Following the shootings, Holmes was arrested outside the theater, where police found him in his car and recovered two Glock semi-automatic pistols, a semi-automatic shotgun and a military assault rifle with a high-capacity ammunition drum.

Although some information in the newly released court filings had surfaced earlier at several public court hearings, the documents revealed intense legal wrangling between Arapahoe County Prosecutor Carol Chambers and Holmes' defense team, led by Public Defender Daniel King.

In one filing, King's team argued against police obtaining additional DNA evidence, fingerprints and a mugshot from Holmes, saying he had submitted following his arrest. Presiding Judge William Sylvester sided with prosecutors.

And while some 60 documents were made public, most were heavily redacted, eliminating names of potential witnesses, key documents such as arrest warrants and subpoenas, even the name of the psychiatrist Holmes' defense team has enlisted to help their case in preparation for a possible insanity defense. The psychiatrist was identified only as an "expert witness'' and the resumé redacted.

Chambers also requested the names of shooting victims -- originally released publicly in July -- be redacted after an unidentified person attempted to fraudulently file documents on behalf of victims and potential witnesses.

The bulk of the court filings center on access to a notebook Holmes sent in mid-July to University of Colorado psychiatrist Lynne Fenton, who had treated Holmes for undisclosed issues. Holmes' attorneys have maintained the information is privileged under doctor-patient confidentiality, According to a July Fox TV report citing unidentified Aurora police sources, the notebook contained plans and drawings of a mass shooting.

Holmes' attorneys have said that Holmes suffers from undisclosed mental issues and that he tried to contact Fenton minutes before the shootings. But Fenton has testified that she last had contact with Holmes on June 11. She also said was not aware of the contents of the notebook, which was found in a university mail room on July 23.

Among court filings released Friday, Chambers said that Holmes' had "threatened" a university official - whose name was redacted - and was subsequently banned from the University of Colorado's Denver campus. ( A University of Colorado spokeswoman previously said that Holmes' access to the campus ended after he informed the school June 10 that he was dropping out).

King's team later sought court sanctions against Chambers for contending Holmes had been banned from the campus, saying the allegation was untrue. In a subsequent ruling, Sylvester denied King's motion for sanctions.

Prosecutors have dropped their request for access to the notebook.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012/09/28/holmes-case/57850760/1?csp=34news



5'11" and only 150# ??
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Post by: EyeBelieve on October 04, 2012, 04:57:18 PM
In side-by-side comparison of these mugshots, he's got the same dilated-pupil wall-eyes, but now, his ENTIRE expression yells "crazy" and/or "drugged," not just his eyes. Combine that of course, with the weird behavior.

This just gets more and more strange. What in the hell are they DOING to this kid? What do they have him on? Will we ever find out?

I don't know what to make of Holmes really.  Could be patsy, could be authentically deranged, could have had mental problems exacerbated by psych drugs.  Mass murders now so common I suppose some are psy-ops but others are authentic copy-cat style.  Things like psy-ops & false-flags work thru plausible deniability.  Video games condition kids to mass murder & are good practice for it.  MSM covers up that military pioneered realistic video games.  Even some top auto racers claim that racing sims helped them learn certain tracks.

RE the pics it's likely Holmes is drugged up but OTOH he's apparently smart enough to seek insanity defense also.  BTW I've long seen that criminals (all types, not just loonies) give goofy messed-up facial expressions in mug shots, I guess a form of resistance to authority.
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Post by: OldTimes on October 12, 2012, 06:47:20 PM
Photos are the same person, but completely different state of mind can make a person (their eyes in particular) look like someone completely different.

I'd think it's important for jurors, and the general public too, to know what kind of drugs he tested positive for.  Why do people still honor physicians/psychologist (or for that matter attorney) client privacy privileges when its clear the public is in danger?  It is obvious the guy was on something.  Most of these mass murders are connected with psychotropic drugs.  But like mercury-laden vaccines it is never acknowledged to the public, possibly because some jew pharma boss fears legal backlash.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on October 12, 2012, 07:47:29 PM
But the text messages could show Holmes' state of mind leading up to the shootings and back the Aurora Police assertions that Holmes' actions were premeditated.

And could as easily disprove Aurora Police assertions...

They announce the release of documents and show us nothing. Nothing will be done to bring any truth to this incident, whatever it was.
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Post by: dominique on January 07, 2013, 03:17:55 PM
Now here is something new...

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CENTENNIAL, Colo. — A surveillance video introduced in court Monday shows James E. Holmes scanning his movie ticket, purchased 12 days earlier and then turning toward Theater 9 where a murderous shooting rampage took place.

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Inqui introduced the theater’s surveillance video, which shows Holmes, dressed in dark pants, a white shirt and a skull cap, scanning his ticket, handing it to a ticket agent and then walking to Theater 9. The video also shows the aftermath as dozens of terrified movie patrons fled the theaters.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-surveillance-video-shows-james-holmes-entering-aurora-theater-20130107,0,4578487.story

If true, definitely sounds pre-meditated and could hurt any sort of insanity defense.

But this is like the third description I've heard of what he was wearing that evening. What happened to the red flannel shirt?
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Post by: Rudi Jan on January 07, 2013, 03:21:49 PM
Now here is something new...

If true, definitely sounds pre-meditated and could hurt any sort of insanity defense.

But this is like the third description I've heard of what he was wearing that evening. What happened to the red flannel shirt?

This was one of the very earliest reports on how he entered the theater. It went AWOL within 48 hours.

Interesting about the date on the ticket. Hadn't heard that.
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Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on January 07, 2013, 03:31:16 PM
my lord
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Post by: dominique on January 07, 2013, 03:33:00 PM
This was one of the very earliest reports on how he entered the theater. It went AWOL within 48 hours.

You mean that he entered through the front instead of being "let in" the emergency exit?
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Post by: Vidarr on January 07, 2013, 03:42:48 PM

What did I do?

You left her for a younger woman..
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Post by: Rudi Jan on January 07, 2013, 04:30:00 PM
You mean that he entered through the front instead of being "let in" the emergency exit?

It was initially stated that he came in through the front. Who came in through the back then? Or did he go out himself to get dressed in armor and get armed? If so he would have to jam the door to re enter. Not terribly hard to do. Unless it was wired for an alarm.

I rather doubt he went out myself. Which introduces the possibility of another gun man. But how will we ever know since the conflicting 'factoids' are cryptic and confusing? Will there ever be a trial? And if so, will it all be in secret, transcripts with held for some BS reason? Unraveling all this becomes hopeless and somewhat distracting from the evil deeds of much graver consequences. It is simply devolved into everything classless in the media, of as much significance as the latest Hollywood scandal, here today, forgotten tomorrow.
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Post by: dominique on January 07, 2013, 04:44:10 PM
It was initially stated that he came in through the front. Who came in through the back then? Or did he go out himself to get dressed in armor and get armed? If so he would have to jam the door to re enter. Not terribly hard to do. Unless it was wired for an alarm.

I still think that's what happened. It's ingeniously simple and easy to pull off. BTW, I've never in my life seen any of those exits being wired with alarms. I figure he could have put anything - any small thing, in the door to keep it cracked unnoticeably. It was nighttime, so I doubt there was much in the way of light cracking through even with the parking lot lighting. Don't forget that this kid was incredibly bright and even if mentally sick, had plenty of time on his hands to concoct this after flunking out of grad school.

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I rather doubt he went out myself. Which introduces the possibility of another gun man. But how will we ever know since the conflicting 'factoids' are cryptic and confusing? Will there ever be a trial? And if so, will it all be in secret, transcripts with held for some BS reason? Unraveling all this becomes hopeless and somewhat distracting from the evil deeds of much graver consequences. It is simply devolved into everything classless in the media, of as much significance as the latest Hollywood scandal, here today, forgotten tomorrow.

I share your frustration. If he is declared mentally incompetent it might likely be mainly because then more evidence will never have to come to light.

Whether or not he acted alone, in concert, or at all, I still go back to my main takeaway from this whole incident - the permeation and subversion of our culture by jew perversion and propaganda. Whether it be dark, violent films, first-person-shooter games, psych meds, the destruction of the nuclear family, the forced "diversification" of society, etc etc etc etc, the effect is the same, even if it's not a psy-op and went off exactly as it appears - with one messed up, disillusioned kid planning a slaughter. To me the "official story" is far scarier (concerning jew influence in our society) than a psy-op, since we've seen those before...
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Post by: Rudi Jan on January 07, 2013, 05:19:00 PM
I still think that's what happened. It's ingeniously simple and easy to pull off. BTW, I've never in my life seen any of those exits being wired with alarms. I figure he could have put anything - any small thing, in the door to keep it cracked unnoticeably. It was nighttime, so I doubt there was much in the way of light cracking through even with the parking lot lighting. Don't forget that this kid was incredibly bright and even if mentally sick, had plenty of time on his hands to concoct this after flunking out of grad school.

My problem with sequence is the time frame. The time to go down and don new garb. Not sure what the witnesses said regarding that sequence of time but I don't think it was long.

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Whether or not he acted alone, in concert, or at all, I still go back to my main takeaway from this whole incident - the permeation and subversion of our culture by jew perversion and propaganda. Whether it be dark, violent films, first-person-shooter games, psych meds, the destruction of the nuclear family, the forced "diversification" of society, etc etc etc etc, the effect is the same, even if it's not a psy-op and went off exactly as it appears - with one messed up, disillusioned kid planning a slaughter. To me the "official story" is far scarier (concerning jew influence in our society) than a psy-op, since we've seen those before...

Contributing to it all yes, but cause? I have my doubts. Besides to know whether the accused is guilty is critical. It's simply assumed. That is a critical fact on which are built mountains.
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Post by: dominique on January 07, 2013, 05:30:23 PM
My problem with sequence is the time frame. The time to go down and don new garb. Not sure what the witnesses said regarding that sequence of time but I don't think it was long.

I seem to recall the time being something like 6-9 minutes. Plenty of time. His car was parked right outside the door as well.

To me it's far from impossible for one disillusioned yet intelligent person to plan this. Guess that speaks volumes about me?  ;D

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Contributing to it all yes, but cause? I have my doubts. Besides to know whether the accused is guilty is critical. It's simply assumed. That is a critical fact on which are built mountains.

I guess I'm being simplistic to look at it this way, but I just figure that no matter whodunnit, it's the jews' fault. Seriously.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on January 08, 2013, 09:19:39 AM
I seem to recall the time being something like 6-9 minutes. Plenty of time. His car was parked right outside the door as well.

Hmmm...

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I guess I'm being simplistic to look at it this way, but I just figure that no matter whodunnit, it's the jews' fault. Seriously.

The jews in the media, state capitals and the cities, and the DC circus are all yelling for our guns... that's telling.
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Post by: jacob gold on January 08, 2013, 10:23:08 AM
Hmmm...

The jews in the media, state capitals and the cities, and the DC circus are all yelling for our guns... that's telling.


Mr Rudy - In 1933 the Ukraine wouldn't give it's land to Stalin/Bolsheviks. so Stalin sent in the NKVD and took their food and farm implements. Consequently 10 mil starved. Now if they had AK-47s, I am sure they would have resisted.

The point behind military rifles is to resist a tyrannical government, such as the Bolsheviks.
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Post by: dominique on January 08, 2013, 11:53:53 AM

Some interesting new info here:

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Among the material officers eventually found in Mr. Holmes’s apartment was a thermos that contained glycerin, which had been tilted at a 45-degree angle over a frying pan containing potassium permanganate — which had the potential to cause intense heat, and possibly, a fire. The authorities also found three jars filled with improvised napalm, smokeless powder and live rounds.

The explosives had been attached to a remote-controlled trigger that was placed in a white trash bag inside a garbage can outside of Mr. Holmes’s apartment building, Mr. Gumbinner testified.

On top of the trigger was a boom box, and atop that was a remote-control car, the agent said.

The boom box played 40 minutes of silence, then played music, he said.

Mr. Holmes’s aim, said the agent, was that someone would hear the music and end up playing with the remote-control car, which could have triggered an explosion in his apartment.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/09/us/james-holmes-set-trap-to-divert-police-agent-says.html


What happened to the much-repeated original story that the trip wires were either attached to, or crossed in front of, his apartment door that had been left ajar?

I was kinda wondering how the kid could have safely left his apartment from that originally-mentioned setup without setting it off. I guess it took awhile for whomever to get their story straight.  ;)
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Post by: Rudi Jan on January 08, 2013, 12:43:03 PM
The point behind military rifles is to resist a tyrannical government, such as the Bolsheviks.

Agreed. You are preaching to the choir.
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Post by: dominique on January 08, 2013, 12:46:39 PM
article snip:

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Officer Jason Oviatt said he first thought Holmes was a cop because he was wearing a gas mask and helmet, but as he got closer realized he was not an officer and held Holmes at gunpoint.

Throughout the search and arrest, Holmes was extremely compliant, the officer said.

"He was very, very relaxed," Oviatt said. "These were not normal reactions to anything. He seemed very detached from it all."

Oviatt said Holmes had extremely dilated pupils and smelled badly when he was arrested.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/accused-aurora-shooter-james-holmes-bought-ticket-12/story?id=18150556


As I had said, always have noticed the pupils being dilated. Now we have testimony that they were so immediately following the shooting.

Meaning either: extreme mental illness (typical onset of paranoid schizophrenia), or drugs/MK-Ultra-typeprogram of some sort. Or both.

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Post by: dominique on January 08, 2013, 12:50:34 PM

Mr Rudy - In 1933 the Ukraine wouldn't give it's land to Stalin/Bolsheviks. so Stalin sent in the NKVD and took their food and farm implements. Consequently 10 mil starved. Now if they had AK-47s, I am sure they would have resisted.

The point behind military rifles is to resist a tyrannical government, such as the Bolsheviks.


This is just a real wild, wild guess, but I don't think Kalashnikovs existed prior to WWII.  ;) So I'm pretty sure the Bolsheviks didn't have them, either.

BTW, you seem to be implying that the Ukrainians DIDN'T "resist" - because they didn't have these as-yet-to-be-invented weapons, I guess. Well, they most certainly did resist - many, many times. I suppose if your jew banker buddies hadn't been bankrolling their opponents, their revolt may have been successful. Just a guess.
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Post by: dominique on January 08, 2013, 02:05:37 PM
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CENTENNIAL — Aurora police seized four prescription bottles and immunization records when they searched theater-shooting suspect James Holmes' apartment in July, according to newly obtained filings in the murder case against Holmes.

The disclosures come in a back-and-forth between prosecutors and defense attorneys over whether those items should be subject to doctor-patient confidentiality. The judge ultimately ruled in October that prosecutors could keep the items.
Holmes is charged with 166 counts of murder, attempted murder and other offenses in the July 20 shooting rampage at an Aurora movie theater that left 12 dead and at least 58 injured.

The documents — many of which are heavily redacted — do not reveal what prescriptions the bottles were for or whether prosecutors intend to use them as evidence.


Read more: Aurora theater shooting: Cops took pill bottles from Holmes' apartment - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22323293/aurora-theater-shooting-%20cops-took-pill-bottles-from
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Post by: jacob gold on January 08, 2013, 04:49:53 PM
dominique

I know it's not easy being in a hill top settlement outside jerusalem. Take some esctacy and pleasure yourself- naturally if there are two of you working the shift, then do each other's schmeckle. You can't get AIDS from oral sex.
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Post by: dominique on January 08, 2013, 05:46:31 PM
dominique

I know it's not easy being in a hill top settlement outside jerusalem. Take some esctacy and pleasure yourself- naturally if there are two of you working the shift, then do each other's schmeckle. You can't get AIDS from oral sex.


And the point of your trolling and insults is.....?

...To distract from the updates to the thread, perhaps?
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Post by: Notchosen on January 08, 2013, 06:00:30 PM
This site needs an ignore button option.
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Post by: dominique on January 08, 2013, 06:13:00 PM
Two different booby-traps set at the apartment.

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FBI: James Holmes' booby-trap used remote-control car, frying pan
By Tracy Connor, NBC News
January 8, 2013, 7:05 pm
NBCNews.com
James Holmes used a thermos, frying pan, remote-control car and volatile chemicals to booby-trap his apartment to blow up during the Aurora theater massacre, an FBI agent testified Tuesday.

On the stand for a preliminary hearing, bomb technician Garret Gumbinner described the diabolical contraptions authorities found when they went to the grad-school dropout’s Colorado apartment.

There was a trip-wire leading from the door to a thermos filled with glycerine that was perched over a frying pan filled with potassium permanganate, Gumbinner said.

If they combined, there would be a spark that would set off a chain-reaction: fast-moving flames and a series of explosions as homemade devices scattered around the apartment ignited.

On top of the fridge was a remote-controlled “pyrotechnic” box filled with 6-inch fireworks shells. Holmes left the remote for it outside, in a trash bag with a toy car and a boom box on a timer, the agent said.

His fantasy was that someone on the street would hear the music, open the bag, decide to play with the car, fiddle with the remote and detonate the explosives, Gumbinner said.

In all, there were more than a dozen explosive devices in his apartment loaded with napalm, smokeless powder and live ammunition. Carpets were soaked with oil and gasoline to fuel any blast.

His computer was set to play loud music at a designated time. He was hoping “someone would call the police and that the police would respond to his apartment,” Gumbinner said.

"He said he rigged his apartment to explode or catch fire in order to divert police resources to his apartment,” Gumbinner said, recounting an interview with Holmes.

No one played with the toy car or banged on the door, though. And when Holmes was arrested outside the Century 16 multiplex – after allegedly killing a dozen people and wounding 58 – he quickly told police about his traps.

The scope of the bizarre setup was revealed during the second day of a hearing to determine whether there is enough evidence to put the neuroscience scholar on trial for first-degree murder.

A parade of law-enforcement officials took the stand to describe Holmes’ painstaking preparations and the horrific aftermath of the July 20 shooting at the Century 16 multiplex – but there was no mention of motive.

The picture they presented was of a methodical killer who left nothing to chance and foreshadowed his own fate in a question posted to two online dating-service profiles: “Will you visit me in prison?”


Courtesy the family via KUSA Veronica Moser-Sullivan, in an undated family photo.
Holmes bought his ticket, through Fandango, 12 days before the opening of the Batman flick “The Dark Knight Rises,” police testified, though it emerged that he was supposed to see it in Theater No. 8, not No. 9 where the ambush took place.

With so much evidence against their client, Holmes’ legal team is expected to mount an insanity defense, and his attorneys tried to highlight his state of mind at several points during the day’s testimony.

They questioned Aurora Police Department Detective Craig Appel about why Holmes wasn’t tested for drugs or alcohol even though his pupils were hugely dilated and he acted strangely after his arrest.

'Help me!': Teen's 911 call played at Holmes hearing

Appel told the court that police had placed paper bags over Holmes’ hands to preserve gunpowder residue, and he pretended they were puppets. He also ripped a staple out of a table and tried to stick it in an electrical socket.

Earlier, the defense asked an agent from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms whether there is any legal process in Colorado to stop a “severely mentally ill” person from buying guns or ammunition.

The agent had just ticked off the items Holmes legally purchased in the two months before the rampage, including two handguns, a shotgun, a rifle, more than 6,200 rounds of ammunition, body armor, chemicals, fireworks and practice targets.

Holmes – wearing a beard and jail jumpsuit and looking disheveled – showed little reaction to any of the testimony.

He simply stared straight ahead when prosecutors played a heart-breaking 911 tape of a 13-year-old girl pleading for help for her mortally wounded 6-year-old cousin, Veronica Moser-Sullivan.

Veronica’s father, Ian Sullivan, wept with his eyes closed as he listened for four long minutes to the chaos that marked his daughter’s final moments.

The day’s proceedings ended with Sgt. Matthew Fyles reading a grim catalog: the name of every person wounded and the nature of their injury.  When he got to Ashley Moser – who suffered a miscarriage, was paralyzed and lost her daughter, Veronica – he choked up.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/08/16414072-fbi-james-holmes-booby-trap-used-remote-control-car-frying-pan?lite
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Post by: Notchosen on January 08, 2013, 06:31:19 PM
MSM spin rubbish, what happened to his 2 room mates? The memory hole claims two more! They likely had to go set up the next event.
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Post by: wag on January 08, 2013, 06:49:06 PM
MSM spin rubbish, what happened to his 2 room mates? The memory hole claims two more! They likely had to go set up the next event.

Bogus is beginning to prevail as Orwell predicted.
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Post by: jacob gold on January 08, 2013, 07:17:29 PM

And the point of your trolling and insults is.....?

...To distract from the updates to the thread, perhaps?


I would guess most people have had their fill of your  nonsense. All we ask is you and your internet partner do is take a half hour break and suck each other off. I am sure there is a couch in the boiler room.

My whole point is that you and Shem can't get AIDS from oral sex.
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Post by: Notchosen on January 08, 2013, 08:10:12 PM
I've had my fill of Dominique poisoning, makes one wonder who's side she/he is on, if the disruption is the mission at hand, that's one of "J" teams specialties.

I might be mistaken, forgive me if I am wrong, but all these obnoxious personal attacks are a little too Jewwy for an awakened goy such as I.

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Post by: dominique on January 09, 2013, 06:29:33 AM
I've had my fill of Dominique poisoning, makes one wonder who's side she/he is on, if the disruption is the mission at hand, that's one of "J" teams specialties.

I might be mistaken, forgive me if I am wrong, but all these obnoxious personal attacks are a little too Jewwy for an awakened goy such as I.


Nope, just sick of the trolls with their spamming of "crypto this, crypto that." I'm not the only who is sick of it, just the most vocal.

You haven't been around long enough to understand why I have reached the end of my patience with the usual suspects. Or maybe you have...... ;)
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Post by: dominique on January 09, 2013, 06:30:40 AM

I would guess most people have had their fill of your  nonsense. All we ask is you and your internet partner do is take a half hour break and suck each other off. I am sure there is a couch in the boiler room.

My whole point is that you and Shem can't get AIDS from oral sex.


Still trying to figure out where the insults and typical jew-sexual-innuendo-spin has to do with anything I posted on this thread OR in reply to you.
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Post by: wag on January 09, 2013, 06:50:57 AM
A skunk can't smell himself.
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Post by: dominique on January 09, 2013, 07:00:59 AM
A skunk can't smell himself.

It does explain a lot about him.
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Post by: wag on January 09, 2013, 05:32:54 PM
It does explain a lot about him.

Sorry, that was meant towards you dudes.
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Post by: FrontierJustice on January 09, 2013, 05:45:42 PM
Sorry, that was meant towards you dudes.

If it's not a couple dudes, Dominic sure has a lot of time on his hands, and likely a bad case of hemorrhoids.

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Post by: FrontierJustice on January 09, 2013, 11:07:28 PM
all these obnoxious personal attacks are a little too Jewwy for an awakened goy such as I.

How's it feel to be awakened?
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Post by: Notchosen on January 10, 2013, 06:39:49 AM
How's it feel to be awakened?

Well, while it's good see around corners, and through the smoke screens, there are times a snooze button might come in handy.  ;)
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Post by: FrontierJustice on January 10, 2013, 07:07:17 PM
Well, while it's good see around corners, and through the smoke screens, there are times a snooze button might come in handy.  ;)

You can turn off the alarm at times, you just have to make sure to not go back to sleep. And then you stand up.
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Post by: dominique on March 28, 2013, 04:55:02 AM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-james-holmes-20130328,0,530151.story

James Holmes offers to plead guilty in Colorado massacre
His attorneys reveal that they have made a standing offer for Holmes to plead guilty in the Aurora theater mass shooting if the prosecution does not seek the death penalty.

By Jenny Deam, Los Angeles Times
March 27, 2013, 9:14 p.m.
CENTENNIAL, Colo. — James E. Holmes, accused of unleashing the Aurora movie theater massacre in July, has offered to plead guilty to killing 12 people and injuring 70 if prosecutors do not seek the death penalty.

In an unusual court filing, defense lawyers revealed Wednesday that they had made the standing offer weeks ago for Holmes to serve life in prison without possibility of parole for the July 20 mass shooting.

So far the prosecution has declined the offer, the document said.

Dist. Atty. George Brauchler of Colorado's 18th Judicial District is to announce Monday whether he will seek the death penalty. Capital punishment is rare in Colorado, with only three people on death row.

Holmes' attorneys have been expected to use an insanity defense, and their latest filing said they could still do so at trial or sentencing. If he is found to be insane or to suffer from a mental defect, he could not be put to death.

Holmes, 25, a former neuroscience doctoral student at the University of Colorado-Denver, is charged with 166 counts of first-degree murder, attempted murder and weapons violations in connection with the massacre in a packed suburban movie theater. The case evoked worldwide horror and became a touchstone in the national gun debate.

Two weeks ago, an impatient Chief Judge William Sylvester entered a not guilty plea on Holmes' behalf after defense lawyers said they were not prepared to do so. The arraignment had been postponed several times, and the judge said the case needed to move forward.

The defense offer was revealed in a routine court scheduling document, making it that much more unusual, said Rick Kornfeld, a former federal prosecutor turned defense attorney who has been closely following the case. Typically, any negotiations between the two sides are kept under wraps until an agreement is reached, he said.

But Kornfeld called it a potentially smart strategic move by the defense because "it is clearly intended to put public pressure on the prosecution to resolve the case immediately." He said a plea would not only offer closure for victims but save the state millions of dollars for a protracted trial.

The defense complained in the filing that it had offered the guilty plea prior to the March 12 arraignment. "It appears the only impediment to a resolution of this case would be if the prosecution chooses to seek the death penalty," defense lawyers wrote. "Mr. Holmes is currently willing to resolve the case to bring the proceedings to a speedy and definite conclusion for all involved."

It is unclear whether prosecutors will respond to Wednesday's filing. Everyone in the case remains under a gag order.

Last month the defense unsuccessfully challenged the constitutionality of Colorado's insanity defense laws, contending that if psychiatrists examined him under a court order, Holmes could lose his rights against self-incrimination. If he refused to cooperate, the defense said, that could be used against him and could prohibit his attorneys from calling witnesses to testify about his mental state.

Wednesday's filing indicated that Holmes' lawyers may still consider an insanity defense. "As previously stated in court, counsel for Mr. Holmes are still exploring a mental health defense, and counsel will vigorously present and argue any and all appropriate defenses at a trial or sentencing," the filing said.

Holmes' trial is set for Aug. 5 and is expected to last about a month. But the defense said in its filing that if the prosecution sought the death penalty the trial would have to be delayed and would take much longer.

Dave Hoover, whose nephew A.J. Boik was killed in the theater attack, said in an interview Wednesday that he had mixed feelings about any potential plea deal. "I loved my nephew dearly and we miss him every single day. I'm in favor of the death penalty and I'd like to see it in this case, but I'm not in favor of dragging this thing out. If it was over today, it would alleviate a lot of the pain and suffering."

Ultimately, though, Hoover said he was confident the district attorney would make the right call.



Interesting that now defense wants to go for guilty plea. Guess this is another way to avoid discussion of any factors leading to Holmes' seriously screwed up mental state. God forbid that we implicate the jew-run education, pharma, and media networks in the culpability for this disaster (or "psy-op" for those who prefer).
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Post by: EyeBelieve on March 28, 2013, 06:56:13 PM
Interesting that now defense wants to go for guilty plea. Guess this is another way to avoid discussion of any factors leading to Holmes' seriously screwed up mental state. God forbid that we implicate the jew-run education, pharma, and media networks in the culpability for this disaster (or "psy-op" for those who prefer).

Looks like Holmes' goose is cooked whether he did it or is just a patsy.  Not a whole lot his lawyers can do with him, supposedly, being caught red-handed.  Defending on account of psych-meds rarely works AFAIK.  But yeah, JMSM is not talking about the psych-med/violence issue with Aurora or Sandy Hook--they have, very occasionally, mentioned the problem before.