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General / Re: The Torturer Tries to Save His Own Hide
« on: September 18, 2006, 09:00:37 AM »
The politician 'rulers' are going to have to learn that
"What comes around goes around".
They are apparently too goddamned stupid - AND evil - to
learn ANY other way. That is if they are capable of learning at ALL.

I thought it already had.

2006 / Re: Complexity Causes 50% of Product Returns: Scientist
« on: March 07, 2006, 04:37:03 PM »

2006 / Re: Why space research is dying (NASA, etc.)?
« on: March 05, 2006, 04:10:23 PM »
The earth is running out of frontiers. Open frontiers are what enabled
human beings to escape government tyranny.
If human beings successfully colonize near-earth space, the
powers-that-be will have lost control.
Human freedom may flourish. The tax-slavery regime may be threatened.
This cannot be allowed to happen.

2006 / Re: Shitheads and Shiteaters
« on: March 04, 2006, 06:09:51 PM »
After changing the flat tire I felt it would be best to continue the last mile or so to the summit on foot. Stopped where the so-called road cut around to the right to rest. There he came down the slope from the left behind me. Stopped in the middle of the road  I had just hiked up - eye to eye contact at about 50 yards - I don't know how many seconds it was - me standing there alone, unarmed, miles from nowhere, like a dumb-ass. He/she thought better of it and continued on downslope. After my heart rate dropped, I continued up to the microwave tower - which was the reason for the 'road' - which was shrouded in mist - so I couldn't see squat. Six foot from nose to end of tail at least that thing was.

2006 / Re: Shitheads and Shiteaters
« on: March 04, 2006, 01:06:29 PM »
Think about your proximity to large numbers of shitheads and shit eaters.

In my short 41 years I've created software products, made robotic equipment do my will, started a restaurant, learned much about the raising and cooking of vegetables, and stared-down a mountain lion all alone near the summit of Red Butte, Oregon.

Surely colonizing the moon - with talented, like-minded individuals - shouldn't be all that hard. Just takes money.

2006 / Re: Bush Is Done For : You Don't Recover From 34%
« on: March 04, 2006, 11:27:36 AM »
Voting got us into this mess.

Last time I voted was the first time Harry Browne ran.

Aphids have infested and killed my rose bushes - therefore I will change my brand of motor oil. LOL! :D

(having multiple forums is cool, because I can plagiarise myself. And at least one of these things is likely be functional at any given time. I have no 'forum-loyalty')

General / Re: Is LF finally dead??
« on: March 03, 2006, 08:16:56 PM »
As of Saturday morning 3/4/06 at 12:10 AM my 19th attempt at posting my politically-inflamatory post regarding vegetable gardening has failed. LF is dead IMO. Bedtime for me.

2006 / Re: Bush arrives in Pakistan to protests
« on: March 03, 2006, 07:45:48 PM »
Doofus34 and Demon19 (Bush & Cheney) currently sit at 34% and 19% US approval rating. (If you believe those numbers) They travel around constantly - being met with protests wherever they go. While they piss on thier own shoes and disgrace the American people. It's repugnant.

2006 / Re: Free Republic backs Dubai Port deal
« on: March 01, 2006, 08:13:25 AM »
'What gives (with FR)'

Above, Proemio made mention of "SuperBots". Maybe the place is mostly just a bunch of software apps talking to each other and everyone with more than half-a-brain gave up and left. Maybe it's a test-bed for some of Poindexter's TIA projects. A kind of intellectual 'automated electronic Judas goat'. Like TV 'news' programs, just with more advanced algorithms. Ya gotta admit that it's at least possible these days.

General / Re: US government dangles internet control contract
« on: February 28, 2006, 07:30:37 PM »
The entire human race must now make the choice between freedom or government.
The choice is being coerced by the same folks who have quite effectively brainwashed the choosers.
The human race is now probably fucked.
Situation normal.

Conspiracy then and now. / Re: The Case for Impeachment
« on: February 28, 2006, 09:29:30 AM »
I just don't think we can count on the lesser politicians to attack the greater ones.

That was not my point. When conditions reach this level of - whatever - they are usually all swept aside - one way or another.

2006 / Re: Free Republic backs Dubai Port deal
« on: February 28, 2006, 08:42:00 AM »
I was posting on FR when the ports news hit last week.

I was posting there a week-and-a-half-ago (after a three-year exodus from that place) the exact OPPOSITE - 'this is lunacy'. 'The Bush admin is demented...", etc.

Two posts in four or five minutes - and I was banned for being a 'Troll'.
I would 'LOL' if it weren't so tragically double-plus un-funny.

2006 / Re: Free Republic backs Dubai Port deal
« on: February 28, 2006, 08:13:26 AM »
Democrat Treason Bad
Republican Treason Good
Four Legs Good
Two Legs Better

(With my apologies to George Orwell)

Conspiracy then and now. / Re: The Case for Impeachment
« on: February 28, 2006, 07:47:26 AM »
I don't think impeachment will ever happen again.

Perhaps not. But 'change' is the only inevitable imperative.
History proves this conclusively.
The only issues are what is the nature of the change, who directs it,
what event(s) initiate it, and is it for better or worse - and for whom.

Conspiracy then and now. / Re: The Case for Impeachment
« on: February 28, 2006, 06:44:52 AM »
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the whole corrupt, murdering lot need to be removed from public office, for the good of the country and the entire world. They are NOT a positive force in this world.

Exactly HOW this will come about - I do not know. My repeated calls to my congressman and senator's offices have been less than productive. Thus far. (Not that my expectation level was even above the zero-baseline, of course...)

2006 / Re: Mixed feelings about LF
« on: February 27, 2006, 04:19:40 PM »
Folks don't always have the time to respond & comment to every flag. Moreover - they may not see a point in doing so when they may just be reiterating a point/sentiment/fact that someone else has previously stated - or simply feel that they do not have anything of real value to contribute to the topic at hand.

I have always appreciated being flagged - except in taverns.  :D

2006 / Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority
« on: February 26, 2006, 03:14:52 PM »
Where is the sick humor section on this board?

Link to QuickTime movie:

2006 / TIA Lives On (under new names)
« on: February 26, 2006, 11:31:40 AM »
TIA Lives On

By Shane Harris, National Journal
National Journal Group Inc.
Thursday, Feb. 23, 2006

A controversial counter-terrorism program, which lawmakers halted more than two years ago amid outcries from privacy advocates, was stopped in name only and has quietly continued within the intelligence agency now fending off charges that it has violated the privacy of U.S. citizens.

   It is no secret that some parts of TIA lived on behind the veil of the classified intelligence budget.

Research under the Defense Department's Total Information Awareness program -- which developed technologies to predict terrorist attacks by mining government databases and the personal records of people in the United States -- was moved from the Pentagon's research-and-development agency to another group, which builds technologies primarily for the National Security Agency, according to documents obtained by National Journal and to intelligence sources familiar with the move. The names of key projects were changed, apparently to conceal their identities, but their funding remained intact, often under the same contracts.

It is no secret that some parts of TIA lived on behind the veil of the classified intelligence budget. However, the projects that moved, their new code names, and the agencies that took them over haven't previously been disclosed. Sources aware of the transfers declined to speak on the record for this story because, they said, the identities of the specific programs are classified.

Two of the most important components of the TIA program were moved to the Advanced Research and Development Activity, housed at NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Md., documents and sources confirm. One piece was the Information Awareness Prototype System, the core architecture that tied together numerous information extraction, analysis, and dissemination tools developed under TIA. The prototype system included privacy-protection technologies that may have been discontinued or scaled back following the move to ARDA.

A $19 million contract to build the prototype system was awarded in late 2002 to Hicks & Associates, a consulting firm in Arlington, Va., that is run by former Defense and military officials. Congress's decision to pull TIA's funding in late 2003 "caused a significant amount of uncertainty for all of us about the future of our work," Hicks executive Brian Sharkey wrote in an e-mail to subcontractors at the time. "Fortunately," Sharkey continued, "a new sponsor has come forward that will enable us to continue much of our previous work." Sources confirm that this new sponsor was ARDA. Along with the new sponsor came a new name. "We will be describing this new effort as 'Basketball,' " Sharkey wrote, apparently giving no explanation of the name's significance. Another e-mail from a Hicks employee, Marc Swedenburg, reminded the company's staff that "TIA has been terminated and should be referenced in that fashion."

Sharkey played a key role in TIA's birth, when he and a close friend, retired Navy Vice Adm. John Poindexter, President Reagan's national security adviser, brought the idea to Defense officials shortly after the 9/11 attacks. The men had teamed earlier on intelligence-technology programs for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which agreed to host TIA and hired Poindexter to run it in 2002. In August 2003, Poindexter was forced to resign as TIA chief amid howls that his central role in the Iran-Contra scandal of the mid-1980s made him unfit to run a sensitive intelligence program.

It's unclear whether work on Basketball continues. Sharkey didn't respond to an interview request, and Poindexter said he had no comment about former TIA programs. But a publicly available Defense Department document, detailing various "cooperative agreements and other transactions" conducted in fiscal 2004, shows that Basketball was fully funded at least until the end of that year (September 2004). The document shows that the system was being tested at a research center jointly run by ARDA and SAIC Corp., a major defense and intelligence contractor that is the sole owner of Hicks & Associates. The document describes Basketball as a "closed-loop, end-to-end prototype system for early warning and decision-making," exactly the same language used in contract documents for the TIA prototype system when it was awarded to Hicks in 2002. An SAIC spokesman declined to comment for this story.

Another key TIA project that moved to ARDA was Genoa II, which focused on building information technologies to help analysts and policy makers anticipate and pre-empt terrorist attacks. Genoa II was renamed Topsail when it moved to ARDA, intelligence sources confirmed. (The name continues the program's nautical nomenclature; "genoa" is a synonym for the headsail of a ship.)

As recently as October 2005, SAIC was awarded a $3.7 million contract under Topsail. According to a government-issued press release announcing the award, "The objective of Topsail is to develop decision-support aids for teams of intelligence analysts and policy personnel to assist in anticipating and pre-empting terrorist threats to U.S. interests." That language repeats almost verbatim the boilerplate descriptions of Genoa II contained in contract documents, Pentagon budget sheets, and speeches by the Genoa II program's former managers.

As early as February 2003, the Pentagon planned to use Genoa II technologies at the Army's Information Awareness Center at Fort Belvoir, Va., according to an unclassified Defense budget document. The awareness center was an early tester of various TIA tools, according to former employees. A 2003 Pentagon report to Congress shows that the Army center was part of an expansive network of intelligence agencies, including the NSA, that experimented with the tools. The center was also home to the Army's Able Danger program, which has come under scrutiny after some of its members said they used data-analysis tools to discover the name and photograph of 9/11 ringleader Mohamed Atta more than a year before the attacks.

Devices developed under Genoa II's predecessor -- which Sharkey also managed when he worked for the Defense Department -- were used during the invasion of Afghanistan and as part of "the continuing war on terrorism," according to an unclassified Defense budget document. Today, however, the future of Topsail is in question. A spokesman for the Air Force Research Laboratory in Rome, N.Y., which administers the program's contracts, said it's "in the process of being canceled due to lack of funds."

It is unclear when funding for Topsail was terminated. But earlier this month, at a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing, one of TIA's strongest critics questioned whether intelligence officials knew that some of its programs had been moved to other agencies. Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., asked Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte and FBI Director Robert Mueller whether it was "correct that when [TIA] was closed, that several ... projects were moved to various intelligence agencies.... I and others on this panel led the effort to close [TIA]; we want to know if Mr. Poindexter's programs are going on somewhere else."

Negroponte and Mueller said they didn't know. But Negroponte's deputy, Gen. Michael V. Hayden, who until recently was director of the NSA, said, "I'd like to answer in closed session." Asked for comment, Wyden's spokeswoman referred to his hearing statements.

The NSA is now at the center of a political firestorm over President Bush's program to eavesdrop on the phone calls and e-mails of people in the United States who the agency believes are connected to terrorists abroad. While the documents on the TIA programs don't show that their tools are used in the domestic eavesdropping, and knowledgeable sources wouldn't discuss the matter, the TIA programs were designed specifically to develop the kind of "early-warning system" that the president said the NSA is running.

Documents detailing TIA, Genoa II, Basketball, and Topsail use the phrase "early-warning system" repeatedly to describe the programs' ultimate aims. In speeches, Poindexter has described TIA as an early-warning and decision-making system. He conceived of TIA in part because of frustration over the lack of such tools when he was national security chief for Reagan.

Tom Armour, the Genoa II program manager, declined to comment for this story. But in a previous interview, he said that ARDA -- which absorbed the TIA programs -- has pursued technologies that would be useful for analyzing large amounts of phone and e-mail traffic. "That's, in fact, what the interest is," Armour said. When TIA was still funded, its program managers and researchers had "good coordination" with their counterparts at ARDA and discussed their projects on a regular basis, Armour said. The former No. 2 official in Poindexter's office, Robert Popp, averred that the NSA didn't use TIA tools in domestic eavesdropping as part of his research. But asked whether the agency could have used the tools apart from TIA, Popp replied, "I can't speak to that." Asked to comment on TIA projects that moved to ARDA, Don Weber, an NSA spokesman said, "As I'm sure you understand, we can neither confirm nor deny actual or alleged projects or operational capabilities; therefore, we have no information to provide."

ARDA now is undergoing some changes of its own. The outfit is being taken out of the NSA, placed under the control of Negroponte's office, and given a new name. It will be called the "Disruptive Technology Office," a reference to a term of art describing any new invention that suddenly, and often dramatically, replaces established procedures. Officials with the intelligence director's office did not respond to multiple requests for comment on this story.


But heck, I guess it's gotta be disposed of somehow. If it's just left laying around, terrorists might get a hold of it and use it to contaminate somebody's drinking water.

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