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General / Regarding The American Reichstag Fire aka 911 Quotes
« on: December 27, 2010, 03:46:05 PM »
Senator Max Cleland - Former member of the 9/11 Commission, resigned in December 2003:
"I, as a member of the [9/11] Commission, cannot look any American in the eye... It is a national scandal... this White House wants to cover [9/11] up."

Senator Mark Dayton - Member, Senate Committee on Armed Services and Homeland Security:
"[NORAD] lied to the American people, they lied to Congress and they lied to your 9/11 Commission.. .the most gross incompetence and dereliction of responsibility and negligence"

Congressman Ron Paul - Vice Chairman of the Oversight and Investigations subcommittee:
“The [9/11] investigations that have been done so far are more or less cover-up and no real explanation"

Congressman Curt Weldon:
"[9/11 Commission] there's something very sinister going on here... something desperately wrong... This involved what is right now the covering up of information that led to the deaths of 3,000 people"

Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney - Member of the House Armed Services Committee:
“The [9/11] Commission ran up against obstruction by the administration and non-cooperation from government agencies... the errors and omissions immediately jumped out at us"

Director of the FBI, Louis Freeh:
"[9/11 Commission findings] raise serious challenges to the commission's credibility and, if the facts prove out, might just render the commission historically insignificant itself"

Former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts, PhD:
"Distinguished national and international scientists and scholars present massive evidence that the 9/11 Commission Report is a hoax and that the 9/11 "terrorist attack" has been manipulated to serve a hegemonic agenda in the Middle East... We know that it is strictly impossible for any building, much less steel columned buildings, to "pancake" at free fall speed. Therefore, it is a non-controversial fact that the official explanation of the collapse of the WTC buildings is false"

Assistant Secretary of Housing, Catherine Austin Fitts:
"The official story could not possibly have happened... It’s not possible. It’s not operationally feasible... The Commission was a whitewash."

U.S. Army Intelligence officer, Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice, John Loftus:
"The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defense of incompetence"

Foreign Service Officer, George Kenney:
"I cannot believe, much as I might like to, the standard account of 9/11"

Foreign Service Officer, J. Michael Springman:
"Fifteen of the nineteen people who allegedly flew airplanes into buildings in the United States got their visas from the same CIA Consulate at Jeddah"

Deputy Attorney General, State of Pennsylvania, Philip J. Berg, Esquire:
"The official story of what actually took place on 9/11 is a lie. "

Major General U.S. Army, Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, Albert Stubblebine [his specialty – analyzing satellite photos]:
"I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole. So what did hit the Pentagon?’”

Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Deputy Director of Field Operations for the U.S. Marine Corps Historical Center:
"I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that's accurate."

Col. Robert Bowman, U.S. Air Force, Director of Advanced Space Programs, PhD Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering:
"The official 9/11 story is impossible .. There is a cover up... high levels of our government don't want us to know what happened... highly placed individuals in the administration. ..Dick Cheney...the very kindest thing we can say about George W high treason and conspiracy to commit murder."

 Col. George Nelson, U.S. Air Force, aircraft accident investigator:
"I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident... The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from view .. with all the evidence readilty available at the pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged .. the most heinous conspiracy in outr country's history."

Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army:
[Regarding the impact at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001] "When you look at the damage, it was obviously a missile."

Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force, fighter pilot, commercial pilot flying 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777s. Had previously flown Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC:
"The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple...[Regarding Flight 77]"The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The airplane won't go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles... The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77"

Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force, Office of the Secretary of Defense, staff of the Director of the National Security Agency:
"It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics...There was a dearth of visible debris on the relatively unmarked Pentagon, where I stood only minutes after the impact. Beyond this strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage one would expect from the impact of a large airliner... this visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the Sec of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a ' missile ' ... I saw nothing of significance at the point of contact ~ no airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon .. all of us staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such debris, but what we expected was not evident .. the same is true with regard to the damage we expected .. but I did not see this kind of damage. Rather, the facade had a rather small hole, no larger than 20 feet in diameter. Although this facade later collapsed, it remained standing for 30 0r 40 minutes, with the roof remaining relatively straight .. The scene, in short, was not what I would have expected from a strike by a large jetliner. It was, however, exactly what one would have expected if a missile had struck the Pentagon "

Senior Military Affairs Journalist at the Naval Postgraduate School, Barbara Honegger, MS:
"The US military, not al Qaeda, had the sustained access weeks before 9/11 to also plant controlled demolition charges throughout the superstructures of WTC 1 and WTC 2, and in WTC 7, which brought down all three buildings on 9/11...A US military plane, not one piloted by al Qaeda, performed the highly skilled, high-speed 270-degree dive towards the Pentagon that Air Traffic Controllers on 9/11 were sure was a military plane as they watched it on their screens. Only a military aircraft, not a civilian plane flown by al Qaeda, would have given off the "Friendly" signal needed to disable the Pentagon's anti-aircraft missile batteries as it approached the building...Only the US military, not al Qaeda, had the ability to break all of its Standard Operating Procedures to paralyze its own emergency response system"

Capt. Gregory M. Zeigler, PhD, U.S. Army, U.S. Army Intelligence Officer:
"I knew from September 18, 2001, that the official story about 9/11 was false. ... [A]nomalies poured in rapidly: the hijackers' names appearing in none of the published flight passenger lists, BBC reports of stolen identities of the alleged hijackers or the alleged hijackers being found alive, the obvious demolitions of WTC 1 and 2...and WTC7...not hit by an airplane...the lack of identifiable Boeing 757 wreckage at the Pentagon"

Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army, Intelligence officer:
"I view the 911 event a matter that implies either...A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down or B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East"

Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA, responsible for preparing the President’s Daily Brief, U.S. Army Intelligence Officer, Raymond L. McGovern:
"I think at simplest terms, there's a cover-up. The 9/11 report is a joke...just as Hitler in 1933 cynically exploited the burning of the parliament building, the Reichstag, this is exactly what our President did in exploiting 9/11...making a war of aggression on a country that he knew had nothing to do with 9/11...that' s certainly an impeachable offense...But compelling evidence for an even more disturbing conclusion: that the 9/11 attacks were themselves orchestrated by this administration precisely so they could be thus exploited."

National Intelligence Officer and Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis, William Christison:
"There is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them...this all was totally an inside job. I have since decided that... at least some elements in this US government had contributed in some way or other to causing 9/11 to happen or at least allowing it to happen... The reason that the two towers in New York actually collapsed and fell all the way to the ground was controlled explosions rather than just being hit by two airplanes. All of the characteristics of these demolitions show that they almost had to have been controlled explosions.. . I think you almost have to look at the 9/11 Commission Report as a joke and not a serious piece of analysis at all... It's a monstrous crime."

U.S. Marine Corps intelligence officer, case officer CIA. Robert David Steele:
"I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict (not necessarily convict) Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and others...This is, without question, the most important modern reference on state-sponsored terrorism, and also the reference that most pointedly suggests that select rogue elements within the US Government, most likely led by Dick Cheney with the assistance of George Tenet, Buzzy Kronguard, and others close to the Wall Street gangs, are the most guilty of state-sponsored terrorism... I'm absolutely certain that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition and that as far as I'm concerned means that this case has not been properly investigated. There's no way that building could have come down without controlled demolition."

CIA Case Officer, Specialist in the Middle East, Directorate of Operations, Awarded Career Intelligence Medal, Robert Baer:
[Regarding the opinion there was an aspect of 'inside job' to 9/11 within the U.S. Government], "There is that possibility, the evidence points at it."

Counter-terrorism expert in the Security Division of the federal Aviation Administration. Team leader of the FAA's Red (Terrorism) Team in the Federal Air Marshall program, Coast Guard officer, Bogdan Dzakovic:
"At worst, I think the 9/11 Commission Report is treasonous."

Minister of Justice, West Germany, Horst Ehmke, PhD:
"Terrorists could not have carried out such an operation with four hijacked planes without the support of a secret service."

State Secretary, Federal Ministry of Defense, West Germany, Andreas von Buelow, PhD:
"The official story is so inadequate and far-fetched that there must be another one...This is unthinkable, without years-long support from secret apparatuses of the state and industry."

President of Italy, Francesco Cossiga:
"[9/11] could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel."

General Leonid Ivashov, Chief of Staff, Russian armed forces, Ministry of Defense:
"Only secret services and their current chiefs or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation [9/11] of such magnitude... Osama bin Laden and "Al Qaeda" cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders."

 Foreign Minister of Egypt, Mohamed Hassanein Heikal:
"Bin Laden does not have the capabilities for an operation [9/11] of this magnitude. When I hear Bush talking about al-Qaida as if it was Nazi Germany or the communist party of the Soviet Union, I laugh because I know what is there. Bin Laden has been under surveillance for years: every telephone call was monitored and al-Qaida has been penetrated by American intelligence, Pakistani intelligence, Saudi intelligence, Egyptian intelligence. They could not have kept secret an operation that required such a degree of organisation and sophistication. "

Chief of Staff, Pakistani Army, General Mirza Aslam Beg:
"The information which is now coming up, goes to prove that involvement by the "rogue elements" of the U.S. military and intelligence organization is getting more obvious. Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda definitely do not have the knowhow and the capability to launch such operations involving such high precision coordination, based on information and expertise."

European Parliament, Committee on Security and Defense, Giulietto Chiesa:
"Billions of people were given only one explanation. ...which is entirely false....everyone who dares to question it is treated as if he was a fool."

French Army Intelligence and artillery officer, Col. Pierre-Henri Bunel, Expert in the effects of artillery weapons and explosives:
"Image of the impact on the Pentagon is very instructive as to the nature of the explosion. ... It corresponds to a detonation of an explosive with high energetic power. The explosion does not correspond to a deflagration of kerosene...suggests a single engine flying vehicle much smaller in size than an airliner...resemble s the effects of anti-concrete hollow charges that I have been able to observe on a number of battlefields. ..lead me therefore to think that the detonation that struck the building was that of a high-powered hollow charge used to destroy hardened buildings and carried by an aerial vehicle, a missile."

Safety Engineer and accident Analyst, National Safety Technology Authority, Finland, Heikki Kurttila, PhD:

"Conclusion: The observed collapse time of WTC 7 was 6.5 seconds. That is only half a second longer than it would have taken for the top of the building to fall to the ground in a vacuum, and half a second shorter than the falling time of an apple when air resistance is taken into account. ... The great speed of the collapse and the low value of the resistance factor strongly suggest controlled demolition."

 Counter-Terrorism Officer, MI5 (Britain), David Shayler:
"The available evidence indicates that people in key positions in the FBI, the State Department, the CIA and so on were not loyal to the Constitution; that they saw an opportunity in plans laid down by genuine Islamic terrorists to carry out an operation that would shock the world and would therefore justify U.S. adventurism in the middle East, particularly in Afghanistan and Iraq."

Chairman, 9/11 Commission, Thomas H. Kean, Former Governor of New Jersey:
"FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue...We, to this day, don't know why NORAD told us what they told us...It was just so far from the truth."

Vice Chairman, 9/11 Commission, Lee Hamilton, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Homeland Security Advisory Council:
"We got started late; we had a very short time frame...we did not have enough money...We had a lot of people strongly opposed to what we did. We had a lot of trouble getting access to documents and to people. ... So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail."

9/11 Commissioner, Timothy J. Roemer, PhD, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence:
"That panel members so distrusted testimony from Pentagon officials that they referred their concerns to the Pentagon's inspector general...We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting."

Senior Counsel, 9/11 Commission, John J. Farmer, Jr., Former Attorney General, NJ, Former Commissioner of the State Commission of Investigations:
[Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public] - "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years."

Philosophy & Religion / John Paul the Great
« on: December 23, 2010, 07:17:44 AM »
For Roscoe

"Some listen but do not hear."  That includes me. 

John Paul the Great

In Crossing the Threshold of Hope (Knopf:1994), Pope John Paul II wrote that "Salvation and Divinization" are the "ultimate purpose" of man's life: "The Divinization of man comes from God" (p. l95). He also directed (along with Cardinal Ratzinger - now Pope Benedict XVI) the first revision of the Catechism of the Catholic Church in 400 years, quoting St. Athanasius and St. Thomas Aquinas, and declaring, "The Word became flesh to make us 'partakers of the Divine Nature': 'For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving Divine Sonship, might become a Son of God.' 'For the Son of God became man so that we might become God.' 'The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in His Divinity, assumed our nature, so that He, made man, might make men Gods.'" 6

The Catechism of the Catholic Church Promulgated by Pope John Paul II ; Part 1, Section 2, Chapter 2, Article 3, Paragraph 1, SubSection 1 (paragraph 460)

Money & Markets / Hour Money
« on: December 21, 2010, 06:14:55 PM »
Dedicated to establishing an hour of work as the world base money unit.

Email:  snipped check the webarchive link Updated April 15, 2005

Our Money In a Nutshell

A sovereign government should never borrow money. When it borrows money, it loses its sovereignty to its creditors. The people of the United States, and the people of every country, need to own their money, not rent it. Money needs to be our money.

How can that be done?

The best way is to have government pay money into circulation for needed public works.
In More Detail

Money is a public utility. Everyone needs money to survive in the modern world. Mayer Amschel Rothschild understood the importance of money when he said in 1790, “Let me issue and control the money supply of a nation and I care not who makes its laws.”

Nothing is as important to modern government as ownership of the money supply of the nation.

Benjamin Franklin testified to the English Parliament that forbidding the colonies from issuing their own paper money would be a disaster. He later wrote that the resulting shortage of money was the real cause of the Revolutionary War.

Thomas Jefferson warned that letting private bankers create money was far more dangerous to the Republic than standing armies.

Albert Einstein argued that compound interest was more devastating that an atomic bomb.

Thomas Edison and Henry Ford both urged the government to finance infrastructure, specifically, the Muscle Shoals dam, with money the government created.

Ted Thoren and Richard Wagner, professional engineers who worked on the U.S. space program, identified the problem and published their finding in their book, Truth in Money.

Ken Bohnsack of Freeport, Illinois found enormous support for Congressional creation of interest-free money among elected officials in more than 3,000 tax-supported bodies such as school boards, city, town, and state governments.

A conference on having government create money rather than borrow it will be held at the Essex Inn in Chicago September 29 through October 2, 2005. Contact the American Monetary Institute for details and to register.

Media Watch / Tonight! Jesse Ventura Takes On The Pentagon Hit!
« on: December 17, 2010, 08:19:52 AM »
Jesse Ventura will tag 911 Pentagon bombing as a conspiracy theory on his show Conspiracy Theory! Tonight!  Dudes this is major. I want to get a transcript.

Arts, Entertainment & Sports / Are Zombie Movies A Warning?
« on: December 06, 2010, 03:54:40 AM »
Brain and body killed.  Part of brain restored. Not the human thinking part.  Body becomes a consumer and killer.

Or maybe They are taunting the the more alert sheep?

Or just a titillation for profit? Working on the pleasure response a human gets after being exposed to the pain of seeing a mutilated human.

And Ron Paul Spoke With the Dead

by C.J. Maloney

The market turns out to be a more efficient mechanism for digesting dispersed information than any that man has deliberately designed. ~ F.A. Hayek

It is now 2008, and Ron Paul himself has admitted that he thought he`d be back in Texas at this stage of the election campaign, cooling his heels. But timing is everything, and America seems a bit more receptive to Dr. Paul`s message than she has been in recent times.   The most obvious manifestation of his new-found staying power is his record-breaking ability to raise gobs of cash.

Back in early October, when I read that his campaign`s brain trust had set $12,000,000 as their fourth quarter fundraising goal, the first thought that popped into my head was "oh my god, they are potheads!" Yet, here I am three months later and I`ll be disappointed if he doesn`t rake twenty million, minimum. And it`s all because Ron Paul, at the beginning of October 2007, had been cured of his skepticism.

At the beginning of the fourth quarter Ron Paul (unlike every other candidate) decided to openly show the world how much he has raised in actual cash, and update the total every minute or so on his web site. That, ladies and gentlemen, takes absolute nerves of steel.

And what made his decision even more out there is that it was decided upon before the Ron Paul people had ever heard of Trevor Lyman and James Sugra (the brains behind the money bombs), before they had any idea that they were up the road ahead.

While Ron Paul had been cured of his skepticism, his decision to go transparent was helped along by his reading habits.

In his famous essay The Pretence of Knowledge, Austrian economist Frederic Von Hayek spoke to his belief that no matter how intelligent they might be, a small group of men, even a few thousand of them (even if they all had Ivy League Ph.D.s), could not come close to the aggregated knowledge of all their fellow citizens in their millions. Von Hayek`s warning to would-be planners can be summed up in a saying my mother used to drill into our young Irish heads `“ "Let Go and Let God."

In other words, some things it`s better to let alone `“ like your fellow man. As Bloomberg`s Caroline Baum said, it`s best to leave people be because "you never know where the next big idea or product will come from." It is a practical argument for freedom; its capacity to release superhuman, really cool events upon humanity `“ like Victor Pelevin, the iPod, and (in this instance) the money bomb.

In the boardroom discussions at the Ron Paul camp, that was the argument bandied about, that was his brain trust`s thought process, that`s why they decided to take a leap of faith and post their supporters` numbers and generosity in real time `“ democratic, open, and trusting. No other candidate can hold a candle to this, and it all happened because Ron Paul read an essay penned by a now dead man and preached it to his followers.

Jon Bydlak (all quotations in this column are from him) spoke about Hayek`s essay during our call, stating that its underlying argument "allowed us to get over our fear of going transparent." The entire concept of trusting that someone, somewhere, somehow would come along and think of how to raise that cash "fit with the model of our campaign," it fit with Ron Paul`s governing principles.

The decision makes sense coming as it does from Ron Paul`s classic liberal philosophy because it is based on trust in his fellow man to (usually) do the right thing. It stands in direct conflict with all political schools which call for man`s freedom to be curtailed, else we`ll smoke too much or drink too much or play dirty videos or, god forbid, save "too much" money or will choose not to go to Iraq. The philosophy of liberation views men as rational adults, capable of being trusted, of having an inalienable right to be trusted `“ socialism starts with no such premise.

Ron Paul trusted his supporters were large enough in number to raise $12 million, trusted enough that he was going to show the world its unfolding in real time. It was Babe Ruth pointing to the outfield bleachers `“ before homering to the very spot. It was Davey Johnson stating pre-season that he expected his `86 Mets to dominate `“ before they did. It is Ron Paul declaring I can raise $12 million this last quarter `“ before raising $19 million (so far).

Ron Paul let go and let God, secure in his belief that somewhere out there, he knew not where, there was somebody or some bodies that would show what a people left the hell alone can do. Quite a bit, incidentally.

Somewhere in the netherworld, von Hayek is chuckling.

How To Detonate a Money Bomb

No one person made this possible. ~ Jon Bydlak, fundraising director, Ron Paul presidential campaign, 2008

My favorite thing about Ron Paul`s campaign and libertarianism in general is that its underlying moral can be summed up as "the plan is there is no plan." The money bombs, and classic liberal society in general, are a spontaneous action by, for, and from the working masses, perfect as any the communists always pined for yet never experienced. As the first money bomb gained strength, the internet rode Revere-like, from computer to computer, Ron Paul headquarters blissfully unaware.

Yet, I`d be remiss if I didn`t give some opinion as to how it was pulled off. I just want to stress that it wasn`t planned as modern day America understands the term. But there are certain characteristics that a candidate, and his campaign, must have in order to pull one off.

Like any news organization will tell you, Ron Paul`s campaign is not exactly stuffed full of big-named, heavy-hitting establishment players. Hotel suites at two grand nightly are not on the menu for the Paul campaign staffers; I`m afraid they even at times endure the horror of a Motel 6.

But they are not exactly wet-nosed amateurs, either. After three decades in power Dr. Paul can make his way around our nation`s capital without a map; he`s an experienced campaigner. The decision to go completely transparent funds-wise (a decision that by happy coincidence would add fuel to the money bombs` fire) was not rashly made in a factual vacuum.

During the last half of September, two events were staged `“ and unlike the soon-to-come money bombs they were actually planned by the campaign. Fill the Quill came first, and a request for $500,000 to fill an on-line thermometer graphic then followed on the last week.

What happened? These test runs allowed the Ron Paul people to "learn the power of empowering people." For Fill the Quill he asked 1,787 (get it?) of his supporters to sign up to donate, yet the campaign's focus was more on the number of donors rather than the cash generated. Ron Paul's people, basically, were putting their toe in the water to gauge the depth of the market, before diving in.

Over twice the target number of people signed up. The following week, Ron Paul's people decided to set a fund-raising goal for the last week of the third quarter `“ $500,000.

The following week, Ron Paul`s people decided to set a fund-raising goal for the last week of the third quarter `“ $500,000. The MeetUp group which raised the most funds would get a personal visit from Dr. Paul.

They raised $1,000,000, ending the quarter at $5,000,000, shocking the pundits` laughter and Ron Paul`s skepticism right out of them.

So they had a very strong inkling that the support was out there, "by the beginning of the fourth quarter we knew our ability to raise cash on-line was a big strength." They took a deep breath, looked the possibility of public failure right in the eye, and leapt into transparency.

Ron Paul`s decision to go completely transparent and live prior to even knowing about the money bombs, before even knowing about their possibility, dovetailed nicely with the entire concept and turned it into a sporting event. By happy coincidence, scoreboard watching entailed donating.

If you are a supporter of the candidate it is being staged for, watching a money bomb detonate is much like watching a sporting event. Instead of my brothers calling each other back and forth all day with "did you see that catch?!?!," instead it had us asking "did you see what he`s raised so far?!?!"

Jon Bydlak put it more professionally stating that, "by providing real-time numbers, it provides people with instant feedback," and even cooler, after donating you can zip back to Ron Paul`s front page and see your name displayed for a few seconds of almost fame `“ a brilliant idea thought up by`¦Ron Paul`s director of security.

Someone posted on "I anticipate 8`“9 million since that other guy (Ron Paul) is half what Fred is in the polling. Should easily get double. Fred is polling high. Lots of supporters to draw from."

Apparently not. Bottom line, you need the support of the people; there just aren`t enough actual people in the special interest groups and corporations to pull this off.

You don`t need high-priced consultants to figure it out for you `“ a money bomb comes from your individual supporters `“ the masses. The Federation of Conservative Republicans blasted Fred Thompson`s failed money bomb as "amateurish" `“ but this is clearly not the reason for its failure. A successful money bomb is in and of itself an amateur event, an event unplanned from the center. As Mr. Bydlak said, it is "people working together in a decentralized manner."

Trevor Lyman and James Sugra, the two gentlemen who lit the fuses for Ron Paul`s money bomb success, are a California dude and a Miami Beach resident, respectively. They are both very young, and they are both as amateur as amateur can get.

And your supporters must not only be numerous, but excited enough by your message to act on it, to donate their time and money willingly. Ron Paul`s pledge of equality before the law, his promise to stop the looting and killing, have struck a groundswell of supporters willing to act on their own.

In the run-up to Fred Thompson`s money dud, one poster on excitedly wrote "finally the grassroots will help Fred with much needed cash. I was wondering when we would be activated."

Nobody activated Ron Paul`s supporters to set off a money bomb, nobody had to. Ron Paul didn`t think he had to because von Hayek told him he didn`t have to. Ron Paul had that trust in his supporters, and proved his skepticism cured by going transparent. Trusting in the "free market" is, when you think about it, a trust in the people.

And therein lies the ideological chasm between Ron Paul and Fred Thompson, and far too many of his Congressional colleagues. They trust the aggregated money of special interests and corporations will roll in, and it does. But what do they have to sell the working masses but our own money and freedom? We have that already.

cont'd at

That' s all...

Someone remind me to write the story AFTER Ron Paul wins.
In the mean time, we use them as much as they use us - only much, much more... ;D

Well, the topic description says "This is the place to post your favorite things that make you laugh." - i'm laughing, so...

2007 / Bhutto - what's wrong with this picture?
« on: December 28, 2007, 07:02:56 AM »
It's now 24 hours after the event, and I'm surprised that this is not discussed anywhere:
Something went spectacularly wrong - the 'terrorist suicide bomber' goofed.

Unless there is an official medical/autopsy report, I would expect a flood of 'news items' along this line:
"Initial reports of bullets to the head were - wrong, mis-communicated, whatever."
The usual stuff when facts are broadcast before everyone gets the correct spin delivered.

The bombing was to mask the gangland, maffia-style killing of two bullets to the head - a classic 'western' MO - but was triggered a second or so too late. The traditional MO in that culture would be massive bombs and/or a hail of bullets. See: numerous successful and unsuccessful assassinations, including the few on Musharraf himself.

The bullets to the neck were likely fired by a member of the entourage provided by her NewYork 'backers'.

For a little more background on this and some another little know wrinkles, I wrote the following:
(from "Hot Topics" in the RonPaulForums in response to this ;-)

Quote from: shasshas
She is a really good example of female leadership...

So true - in a twisted way. Conceited, corrupt and as dumb as a rock...

I'll explain, lest being accused of a gratuitous smear:

Several months ago, there was an interesting news item in the foreign press (not a word in America or anywhere in the FreeWorld (try Alternative, Pakistani or Russian sources).

There was a lower level SCO meeting in Moscow, with China, many -Stans, and Iran and Pakistan invited as observers. Musharraf delegated his Foreign Minister to attend. Foreign Minister is important, because it was not the level of representation required.

Washington (Rice), immediately decided that Pakistan's Foreign Minister MUST attend some hurriedly organized meeting on the very same weekend.

Pakistan said NO. Not only did they embarrass TIC (The International Community) by refusing to jump, the Foreign Minister spelled it out in a press conference. He said (paraphrasing from memory) "We are part of our region, not theirs. Our future and our security is linked with the nations attending the Moscow conference. We will always have to live with them as neighbors. They also treat us with respect". Oups...

Shortly after the "really good example of female leadership..." who was living it up in London, was summoned to NewYork, where she spent a few weeks getting buttered up, before she returned 'in triumph' (according to breathless MSM reports) to Pakistan. No less than three times did she for a popular uprising where only a few thousand hapless sauls showed up for a beating; each appeal a bigger flop.

She was never meant to become Prime Minister, where she would be useless except for getting pot holes fixed and paraded on western TV to speak, fraudulently, in the name of Pakistan; Musharraf would still be President, command the military, select the Foreign Minister, etc.

Intervention Plan 1: Musharraf refuses to let her in. Invade to 'restore democracy'.
Intervention Plan 2: Musharraf lets her in. Kill her. Hope for mayhem. Invade to 'restore democracy'.

Of course, AlQueda will take responsibility, but am confident that the maffia-style shots were fired from someone in her NewYork appointed entourage. I'm sure as well, that the shots to the head were not supposed to come to light either, because it does neither fit the culture nor 'our' propaganda - it's a dead giveaway. Bombs or hails of bullets is the tradition.

Question: How will Musharraf handle the mess. He's not amused, for sure. Neither is the region (Russia, China, Iran, etc.). It can go either way: Invasion and breakup, or more resistance to military intervention and 'international finance' hegemony, both getting weaker by the hour.

Someone needs a war, if possible a world war. They need it yesterday. Iran is off the table for a while at least. Pakistan is a possible out...

The World Below / No doubt, just (another) oversight...
« on: December 17, 2007, 06:13:02 AM »
We are now 8 hours and 20 minutes past a historic moment - past the morning shows, and...

the official web site still has this top item:
Make history tonight (12/16/07)

We are close to making history. In November, we mentioned that the all-time, single-day primary fundraising record is John Kerry?s $5.7 million in 2004. At this hour, Ron Paul stands at $5.4 million.

Won't you help Ron Paul make history?

If you are considering donating, please help us by making your donation before midnight EST tonight. And if you have donated already, won't you help us by contributing again?

By the way, we are closing in on 25,000 first-time donors today. That's unbelievable! Help us hit this mark too by telling your friends about this historic day!

Jonathan Bydlak
Fundraising Director
Ron Paul 2008

Right. What is unbelievable is that the media can 'accidentally' use these numbers to credibly downplay the event.
Nice job, that...

What should have been there by midnight and 5 seconds?

Ron Paul - six million dollar candidate of the people

Ron Paul raised 6.3+ million dollars from 50,000+ donors in 24 hours.

What is "unbelievable", is that these numbers are higher than any previous political, one-day fund-raising record on any level.
Higher than what John Kerry raised the day after getting the Democrat's nomination in 2004 (5.7 million).
Higher than what Hillery Clinton allegedly raised earlier this year (6.2 million). That amount was released on the same day, but apparently included receipts of several days and included pledges. Ron Paul's number is money in the bank.
The cumulative total for Q4 so far is 18 million, donated by over 200,000 individual donors.

Someone Onboard
Ron Paul 2008

Hardly... Incompetence is what scum-bucket politicians regularly and gladly plead when their sellouts are revealed. Incompetence has become the favorite excuse for skullduggery, ever since holding anyone but regular people accountable has become 'insensitive' or worse.

As mentioned elsewhere, if errors and omissions in crucial moments always have 'unwanted' effects, they can't be dismissed as mere incompetence. This Jonathan Bydlak was also quoted in media before the tea party, that the expectation was 10 million, virtually guaranteeing an unfulfilled promise. This engineered letdown, ties in perfectly with the sophisticated, month-long shill operation, pumping that same 10 million number on RonPaulForums and other venues,. Most reasoned expectations were consistently between 4.3 (Nov. 5th) and 6, perhaps more. Such estimates were always immediately shouted down with the 10 number as being somehow essential, by the same 'super enthusiastic supporters' - who's?.

On a lighter note: Once Ron Paul is president, we should replace Education Day U.S.A. with Media-Whore-Hunting Day.
CNN this morning: "Ron Paul beat HIS old record" - cute...

The World Below / AirForceOne - with escort!
« on: December 14, 2007, 04:37:32 PM »

The following will be absolutely shocking to everyone here...
OK, but it's still fun, despite and nonetheless.

This fall, parliamentary elections were held in Switzerland. Unlike in the US, there are a multitude of parties running; too many to mention.  There are however 4 main parties. SVP, FDP, CVP, SP, and of course the nowadays obligatory Greens somewhat smaller. The biggest of the four before the voting was SVP, with about 25%. SVP is very free-marked oriented, nationalist and  strict constitutionalist in general. Oh, and well armed neutrality of course; the no foreign entanglement thing. Their top candidate - Christoph Blocher - is the closest thing to a Ron Paul in the rest of the FreeWorld. Not quite in my view, but close. For decades, he provided the rallying point for patriots.

After the previous election, Blocher was also selected - by parliament - to the 7 member Council of Ministers - the top political dogs in the Swiss system. The stated goal for this selection was "to control him" through the relatively new system of required "Consensus" among the seven. The entire FreeWorld elite hate the man with a passion, because he was very instrumental in preventing Switzerland to be co-opted into the EU. He also lead the fight against joining the UN, which was after almost yearly attempts, was finally lost by the thinnest of margins (Diebold was introduced just before, which has absolutely nothing to do with that outcome...).

As justice minister, Blocher proposed earlier this year, to get rid of Switzerland's (in)famous hate laws, because they are unconstitutional and immoral. That was obviously the last drop, although it is illegal to mention this "under" the law.

In the summer, during the campaign, Blocher and other members of the SVP, accused the comrades (that's what they call each other) of the Socialist Party (SP) to plot together with the "Christian People's Party" (CVP) and moles inside the SVP, the removal of Blocher from the Council, and the Justice Ministry.

They were immediately and loudly accused by the suspects and 99% of the FreeMedia of being "Conspiracy Theorist" and completely insane. It was suggested by the usual experts in all things, that such dangerous "delusions" make them "sadly" unfit for Office.

The Election:
Despite an Europa-wide propaganda campaign - major media from Germany to Britain, to unelected European Commissars, right up to cuddly Borosso himself - trying to paint Switzerland with Blocher and SVP as "worse than Hitler" (a brand new, stunningly creative angle), the SVP not only remained the strongest party, but actually improved to 29%, and that despite Diebold. That's close to a third in a multiparty system, and by a healthy margin the biggest grouping.

I mention Diebold, because something rather amusing happened right after the election. The next morning, there was a news item, where the national polling organ bragged that their predictions were accurate to within 0.01% in many districts, and better than 0.1% in many more. These news reports were scrubbed within a few hours, after it was pointed out, that this is simply, totally and provably impossible, unless the result was predetermined and manipulated. For the most part, they don't use touch-screens and such stuff in Switzerland, JUST optical scanners to count the paper ballots. Take note, America and the rest of the FreeWorld.

On December 12, parliament convened to select the Council of Ministers. Everyone was confirmed or selected according to the precious "Consensus Formula". The shocking exception was Blocher who came up last and 'lost' to some nationally unknown SVP lady - who was not up for consideration - by a few votes to a block of SP, CVP and Greens, Going against the "Consensus Formula" which they otherwise insist upon. According to prior agreement, in case there was a conspiracy after all, every party member was required to automatically and immediately refuse their selection. After an 'agonizing' reflection period over night, the 'special' person - yep -accepted the 'honor'.

The good news:
I'm thrilled that conspiracy to let the conspiracy succeed, while exposing it, worked to perfection.
The reason why this is a good thing, rest with the unique brand of the Swiss system. Government cannot create law without the consent of the people. Every law requires a waiting period before coming into effect, in order to allow anyone the opportunity to initiate a referendum process. Once the intent of a referendum is duly announced, there is a fixed period (six month?) to collect a relatively small number of signatures. It that succeeds, the referendum has to be held within a certain time-frame. If the referendum itself succeeds the law is deader than dead; it's like it never existed.

Hold on, that's not all. There is the other potent instrument: initiative. If someone - any citizen or group - is convinced that the government is ignoring a problem (happens just as often as bad law), the same process is available to force the government to act in the specific manner set out in the initiative. The main difference is that the numbers are somewhat higher. In other words, the proles get to write law, if necessary.

That obvious problem for OneWorlders is of course why this clever "Consensus Formula" was introduced in the first place - to force the whole government to speak in one voice, misgiving or not. And since the habitual corrupters have a majority of parliamentarians either corrupt, blackmailed or both, their voice rarely represents the will of the people, as referendum results easily demonstrate. Enough people realized that long ago but are prevented from making the required noise; that's where hate laws and media control come in handy. Consensus - just like Realpolitik,  - ensures that we will eventually follow the chicken over the cliff. It's completely inevitable unless we refuse to play along.

With Blocher and the whole SVP no longer obliged to play along in this filthy consensus-game, they can again become truly effective in stopping the relentless slide into collective Euro-perdition. Of note is also what happened the day after. Despite learned predictions by the experts that the SVP will not reap any benefits from the exposure of the 'successful' plot, new memberships in the SVP reached a record for any party, at any time, in the first 24 hours - and climbing. That's a nice demonstration of that particular 20th Century kool-aid: political 'science'.

After the initial jubilation by those geniuses - yes, dancing, clapping and hugging in parliament - they are waking up with a huge hangover, and the prerequisite whining has already begun.

The point?:
Quite a few actually, but... Conspiracies do not only exist, they are commonplace. That is especially true in politics; either because of the shady characters it generally attracts and/or the  'benefits' and stakes involved. That is, at least until the day when only angels will represent us; i.e. never. It's not the 'conspiracy theorist' who deserve the derision, it's the reflexive detractors; either for being terminally inane, or pathetic shills...

The above option and solution does of course not exist in "parliamentary democracies" (the FreeWorld standard), where between quadrennial or quitennial selection rituals, the citizen is just another pesky nuisance with nothing to say. The US is somewhere in between, IF the constitution is adhered to. The Swiss constitution in force - sadly, but not fatally amended a few years ago - was largely based on the US constitution, with the addition of the referendum-initiative mechanism that where deemed lacking from an otherwise brilliant feat. I agree with that, IF participation is restricted to net-contributors having a wested interest in prudent governance, and not automatically to every Tom, Dick and Harriet. But that's another story...

2007 / On hope and a prayer - the Huckabee Surge
« on: December 10, 2007, 04:59:58 PM »
This is the story behind Huckabee's 'relentless' surge.

In short:
October 16th - to be exact - is when he became a new chosen one.
October 17th - the 'independent' media collectively discovered him.
October 18th - the 'scientific' polls started nudging up to confirm.
The manufactured spiral has turned ever since.
It's called "creating facts on the ground" and hope it sticks.

The details (bear with me - it's tasty):
In September, while innocently surfing the web, minding my own business, I came across
The Israel Factor: Ranking the presidential candidates - sorry, their colors
http: //

I thought it interesting that the contemporary 'scientific' polling results largely agreed with the 'experts' - maybe not. The only oddity was the conspicuous absence of a certain Ron Paul, while including such front-runners as Mark Warner, George Allen, Bill Frist, John Kerry, Condolezza Rice, George Petaki,  Wesley Clark, and the guy who invented the Nobel Price (did I mention Condolezza Rice?).

The latest rating at the time (16/09/07)
8.37 - Giuliani (R)
7.62 - Clinton (D)
7.25 - Bloomberg (I)
7.12 - McCain (R)
6.75 - Richardson (D)
6.50 - Thompson (R)
6.50 - Romney (R)
6.00 - Huckabee (R) - fifth republican, eight overall
That was pretty close to the contemporary national polling order.

More wisdom came forth on 16/10/07:
Giuliani - high eight
Clinton - mid eigth
Bloomberg - over eight
Huckabee - second republican, fourth overall - by far the biggest jump of all
Everyone else scored lower.

I didn't note all the numbers, and worse, didn't make a screen shot of the new ratings. Why this is important will become clear in a minute.

The very next day (surprise ;-), the 'independent' media proclaimed - in unison - that 'something' is happening with the Huckabee campaign. The next tracking polls showed a small surge. By the Sunday Talk-Shows, the 'analysis' of what may, may have gotten peoples' attention was in full swing. By monday, Huckabee showed double the numbers in the polls.

In parallel, RonPaulForums was flooded with threads asking what is going on with Huckabee. Not once, not twice, but six times, I attempted to present a 'possible' explanation for what was generally deemed an incomprehensible event. For some reason I truly cannot understand, my evidence (links, dot-connecting and all) was totally ignored, except on a couple of occasions, AND every thread died within a post or two. They did however get hundreds of views after having died. Link to first mention on October 23.

On the bright side, one recurring theme was the observation that the 'surge' is not matched at all in fund-raising, web site activity, blogging, YouTubing, Digging and so on.  That's when the boilerrooms were called into action and made some feeble and largely unsuccessful attempts to create a reality behind the smoke.

Just for fun, this was my last attempt on the subject (note the addition in particular):

On October 16, the panel of 'experts' evaluating the most burning question facing the electorate, seriously up-rated Huckabee (the reason is a hoot in itself). On October 17, the independent media wondered loudly and in perfect unison, why Huckabee is suddenly creating all that new interest. The cart has been leading the horse ever since. I posted the link to the evidence several times - 'reputable' source, no less - and always with the same result; all went quiet on the revolutionary front.

Quit funny actually...

LOL, I just visited the 'reputable source' mentioned above - to see if there are new ratings, and what to expect from the Sunday TalkShow Experts - and the relevant 16/10/07 ratings page is magically gone. The latest is now back in September.
Hot stuff - funny how that works...

Yep, the cowards made the 16/10/07 rating disappear, and stopped publishing new lists - wonder why...

Edit: Added links to the first and the last post on the subject at RonPaulForums

General / 'Smart' rebels outstrip US - Leaderless Resistance
« on: March 10, 2007, 06:56:52 PM »
'Smart' rebels outstrip US

Top American generals make shock admission as Iraq leader pleads with neighbouring countries to seal off their borders

Paul Beaver in Fort Lauderdale and Peter Beaumont
Sunday March 11, 2007
The Observer

The military is also hampered in its attempts to break up insurgent groups because of their 'flat' command structure within collaborative networks of small groups, making it difficult to target any hierarchy within the insurgency.

More at link.

Comment: "Leaderless Resistance" whether armed or unarmed gives tyrants fits.

2007 / Russia warns U.S. on Iran moves [very serious stuff]
« on: February 24, 2007, 11:33:02 AM »
Comment: Lavrov would be the Foreign Minister of Russia, a life-long diplomatic animal. When a guy like that says "we had a frank and productive meeting" it litterally means "I read him/them the riot act". Since he would never talk on record in any other fashion, the below can only mean "enough, the buck stops here". This is a serious as it gets.

"The Russian foreign minister said Wednesday U.S.-led multinational foreign forces in Iraq must not conduct military operations outside the country, including against Iran," the RIA Novosti news agency reported.

"The multinational force in Iraq should abide strictly by the UN Security Council's mandate, which does not provide for any operations outside the country," Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told the Lebanese magazine Al-Watan Al-Arabi in an interview.

"The escalation of the conflict and its possible spread beyond the Iraqi borders will inevitably result in catastrophic consequences and not for the Middle East alone," Lavrov said according to the report. "I believe Washington understands this."

More here: UPI

Comment: Ties in with Putin and the Geopolitics of the New Cold War and some of the stuff on this thread and of course all the diversions here and elsewhere while the pieces are being eased into place.

It's five minutes to midnight - seriously, but maybe we still can stop the mad rush, by letting everyone know "We Know", just like Lavrov did. The creatures of shadows fear nothing like light...

General / ME WAR - they just moved the goal posts off the planet...
« on: February 19, 2007, 05:53:13 PM »
This is not an article as such, but more an Alert. The desperate War Party (substitute with whoever you want - no time to argue semantics) just moved the goal posts off the planet. They realized that the nuke issue doesn't stick and that the 'Iranian' weapons are simply laughed at, even in the bleachers.

Now comes this:

BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner says the trigger for such an attack reportedly includes any confirmation that Iran was developing a nuclear weapon - which it denies.
Alternatively, our correspondent adds, a high-casualty attack on US forces in neighbouring Iraq could also trigger a bombing campaign if it were traced directly back to Tehran.

This shit is not a trigger, has zero delay, and of course no possible justification - how can one make an equivalence between nuke production and some people getting killed in a war zone - but it may just work. It's no accident, that this is floated on the 'trusty' old BBC first.

If this flies with "the people" - and it's hopefully still just a trial balloon - we can see exactly what will happen. At some point - March 3? - the 'president' will come on TV announcing that just a few minutes or hours ago xxx GI's were killed in an attack on a base. The attackers were 'identified' as Iranian of this or that unit - doesn't matter, beacuse... He already ordered an immediate 'retaliation' on their capability to hurt "the troops". The same applies to an 'attack' on a naval vessel in the Golf, but is a bit more tricky to fake.

With the above criteria, any "false flag" has been rendered infallible, even if it is a complete screw-up, because the usual delay has been eliminated. In fact, a "false flag" is not even necessary, as it is right down to "because I say so".

Unlike any other scenario, any "yeah, but..." would be come way too late. The dynamics of war will already have taken over, the killing in full swing.

We need to tell these lunatics, that simple hearsay about something going "boom" - in a war zone to booth - is NOT an acceptable causus belli - that it won't fly. They can do it - sure - but not hidden behind our ignorance or with our silent consent. They must be told, that when the dust settles, we'll all be looking at them...

2007 / U.S. senators to arrive in Israel for indoctrination
« on: February 18, 2007, 05:38:58 PM »
Comment: That is where some of the 'missing' 'US' senators were last Saturday, when the 'surge' non-vote show was going down. MSM - to a whore - reported them on a fact-finding trip to Baghdad, if 'reporting' about them at all...

U.S. senators to arrive in Israel for indoctrination
Malaysia Sun
Saturday 17th February, 2007 

(Ynet News): A delegation of American senators is scheduled to arrive in Israel on Sunday.

 The senators are members of a joint Senate-Knesset committee headed by Senator Jon Kyl, who is close to President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

 Member of Knesset Yuval Steinitz (Likud) is hosting the delegation. Together with Senator Kyl, he established the committee four years ago to strengthen defense cooperation between the two countries.

 'We formed the committee four years ago, when I was Chairman of the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. It is the only joint committee between the American Congress and another country,' said Steinitz.

 'We think that it is important that the members of the delegation feel the connection and understand Israel better. They are mostly non-Jewish and we want them to feel some obligation to the country,' he added.

 'The ability of the Senate and the Congress to promote issues is just as important as that of the American administration. They will be briefed by Mossad Officials about Iran, Hezbollah and global Jihad,' he said.

 'The committee has had major achievements and we hope that this visit will lead to additional feats,' he concluded. One of the committee's successes to date is receiving funding for a project to develop a rocket-interception system.

 The two-day visit includes meetings with Opposition Chairman MK Benjamin Netanyahu, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Chief of the Mossad. Later on they will also meet Deputy President and Knesset Speaker Dalia Itzik and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

 The visit will end with dinner with Coalition Chairman MK Avigdor Itzchaky, MK Tzachi Hangebi, Nobel Prize Laureate Prof. Robert Auman and Nathan Sharansky.

Comment 2: Please remember the bolded when one of the 'leaders' talks about "the country" - he does not mean yours ('Israelis' excempted, of course)...

General / Egyptian-Canadian 'admitted to helping Mossad'
« on: February 15, 2007, 06:05:26 PM »
Comment: Lots of interesting flavors in this little story. Gives a new meaning to 'human rights'. Also underlines, that not every 'christian' is a Christian, and not every 'muslim' is a Muslim.

Egyptian-Canadian 'admitted to helping Mossad' - report
By Agence France Presse (AFP)

Friday, February 16, 2007

OTTAWA: An alleged Egyptian-Canadian spy told Egyptian interrogators he recruited several gay or financially strapped Arabs while living in Canada to work for Israel's intelligence agency, media said Thursday. A transcript of Mohammad Essam Ghoneim al-Attar's interrogation, viewed by the Globe and Mail newspaper, said that he is a gay Zionist who turned his back on Islam and worked with Mossad to undermine the security of his homeland.

The interrogation session took place last month at an unknown location in Egypt, the Toronto-based newspaper said.

Attar's dossier says he admitted to using his position as a Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce teller in Toronto to identify potential recruits, and that he had married and divorced at least four times while living here.

The file further alleges Attar, 31, was under surveillance by Egypt's intelligence service since early 2002 when he left Cairo for Turkey after a family spat, and later moved to Canada.

Attar confessed to going to the Israeli Embassy in Ankara in search of work, was put through a series of tests, was advised to convert to Christianity and was later schooled by Roman Catholics in Turkey.

He cited his new religion and homosexuality in applying for UN refugee status, which eventually landed him in Canada.

Attar was arrested in Cairo on January 1, during a family visit, on charges of bribery, espionage and conspiring to "harm Egypt's national interests." - AFP


General / Explosions rip through Lebanese Christian area
« on: February 13, 2007, 07:17:23 AM »
Comment: Right on cue, Syria and Hezbollah decide to shot themselves in the foot... In 'other' news, former President Amin Gemayel, visited the White House and met with Bush last week. Sources wishing to remain anonymous, reveal that the Israeli Cabinet is said to be "shockked & and totally surprised" by the barbaric carnage inflicted one the Lebanese people...

Explosions rip through Lebanese Christian area
Attacks come day before 2nd anniversary of ex-PM Hariri's assassination

Bela Szandelszky / AP
Updated: 26 minutes ago

BEIRUT - Bombs tore through two commuter buses in a mainly Christian area of Lebanon on Tuesday, a day before the second anniversary of former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri`s assassination. At least three people were killed and 20 wounded in the coordinated attack, the state-run news agency said.

A senior politician speculated that the blasts were meant to scare people away from a mass rally to commemorate Hariri, a gathering that has heightened sectarian tensions in Lebanon.

There were no plans to cancel the rally, organizers said. Senior government, military and security officials were scheduled to meet later Tuesday to discuss how to keep Wednesday`s protest from turning violent.

More at source (something about bananas)

General / Iran challenges Europe to hand over Holocaust 'proof'
« on: February 06, 2007, 06:54:39 PM »
TEHRAN (AFP) - An Iranian government-sponsored body set up to probe the veracity of the Holocaust has challenged Europe to hand over documents about the mass slaughter of Jews in World War II.

Mohammad Ali Ramin, the head of the "World Holocaust Foundation" created after Iran's controversial Holocaust conference last year, said Austria, Germany and Poland in particular should supply documents.

"They should hand over the proof for the dossier on the organized massacre of Jews in Europe during World War II to the independent international fact-finding committee affiliated to this foundation," the IRNA state news agency quoted him as saying Tuesday.

More here (actually not more; just the 'required context' at twice the length).

Comment: There are mountains of 'proof'...

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