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2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 13, 2011, 08:35:55 PM »
It seems the paid ringers have lost control of the specific message and their bosses have decided to call the whole thing off. Orders have been given to the mayors to clear things out.

Unpredictable things can happen when everyone has a smartphone...

"Revolutions are easy start, but once they get going they're like an avalanche, very hard to stop or control"

They want to stop these demonstrations before things really get out of control and people start calling for no more wars and less printing of money for Obama's handlers. These were supposed to be your typical class warfare demonstrations, but I'm afraid they've turned into something else.

Agreed. Unforeseen events?

2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 13, 2011, 08:28:56 PM »
Uhhh... I don't know jack about posting. Could someone direct me toward a thread that could help me out?

2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 13, 2011, 08:25:14 PM »
We certainly do point them out and there is no shortage of them, online, offline, anywhere. For the right price any traitor can be bought with ease. Money talks...

I agree. There are lots of Benedict Arnolds out there. Lots and lots of them.

True, you are talking about a different era when free speech was still free. Sadly, this is not the case today.

I respectfully disagree. Back then, on every street, in every village, in every town, and in every school, church, bar, marketplace and courthouse, taking notes and recording conversations, were lots of loyalists. Lots and lots of them.

However ~ meanwhile, ''The Occupy Wall Street movement'' is getting sympathy from an unlikely person: Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)....

... lots of Benedict Arnolds ...

2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 13, 2011, 10:49:11 AM »

Welcome Burford!

... A critical mass of 3%, well informed people would be formidable. The key is to chop at the roots in order to affect change. Having said that, we also know that certain folks are financing chaos. Centralized movements can be infiltrated and corrupted from within - and are...

Thanks for the welcome SG.

I agree with your post. Although I think it’s good to point out the traitors I don’t think it a good idea to allow the thoughts/discussions of them to become an immobilizing force. Our revolutionary army was infiltrated with innumerable saboteurs but that didn’t stop us from winning, somehow.

2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 13, 2011, 10:21:13 AM »

Thank you for the welcome AOL.

Your points are well taken. Most folks aren’t nearly as tuned in as FP members and I understand the frustration of trying to enlighten others. It can be a very long, slow process and it’s often hard to keep in mind how unaware others might be. When I read the beginning responses to this thread they all seemed to be putting down and complaining about the protestors and I just had to chime in. I don’t have a polyanna view but think it’s more productive to promote the similarities than the differences. The troops at Valley Forge were a rag-tag bunch of untrained illiterate laborers, farm boys and drop-outs from a variety of national origins, but that didn’t stop them from taking the superior, well organized and equipped Hessians at Trenton – without firing a single shot. They succeeded with the revolution and worked out the details later. They couldn’t have done that if they weren’t focused on their overall common goal, to get rid of TPTB, IMO.

2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 13, 2011, 08:52:22 AM »
Thanks for the response. I've saved many of your insightful one-liners over the years.

Mainstream media coming out with a story saying Soros is behind the protests probably means the ringers aren't able to control the protestors.

I agree. Never had a tv but hear it on the radio and the net.

They keep trying to throw a wrench into it. But there are Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, white collar, blue collar, students and the unemployed, and guess what PTB - they're all mad at you. And now with the internet the MSM bs ain’t flushin’ anymore. It all has to start somewhere.

2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 13, 2011, 08:13:41 AM »
das kamps

Every armchair quarterback can tell you exactly how the game can be won, but it’s just so hard to get them to turn off the tv and actually show up on the playing field.

Das kamps, das kamps, das kamps. Although this may in fact be a good solution, and rallying chant, especially if the originator (rev. JJ) was leading it, exactly where would you start? Or should we all just give up and stay home – maybe turn on the tv.

2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 13, 2011, 08:06:46 AM »
I would approve of protests against internationalism.  America has ceased being a nation, and now we're $h^tmerica.

Thanks for the response.

A small handful of ne’er-do-wells tried that a while back but it was a miserable failure because it ended up being nothing but a zio commie scam. I think they called it something silly like – Occupy Wall Street. Sorry, but you kinda missed the boat :)

2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 13, 2011, 07:24:30 AM »
Hopefully... but I guess I've become somewhat disillusioned by the snail's pace growth in awareness. As well I can see clearly that the end game is in play and reveille has sounded long ago.

With all due respect, you can be as pessimistic as you want, and maybe I’m just a fool. The growth may have been slow but I wouldn’t doubt that the number of people who are now aware of the fed, etc., has doubled since the protests began. It’s easy to imagine that if it was up to some of the folks here, everyone should have gone home as soon as the first Jew showed up.

The US revolution shouldn’t have succeeded – Ben Franklin’s own son fought against it. Were it not for unforeseen events many of the battles would not have been won – but if no Americans showed up for the fight, the battles surely would have been lost.

You are certainly doing your part by keeping this forum alive to educate folks. The Rev. JJ did an excellent job at educating many through his website, and likewise Walt on the radio. I realize that some consider Alex Jones, Justin Raimondo and Mike Revero ‘Jew poodles’, but they’ve also helped educate many who otherwise wouldn’t have had a clue, and many of whom will be able to weave their way through the bs.

One could conclude that some of the posters here are convinced that because everyone at these protests aren’t screaming about Jews then the whole event is a worthless zio front. On the other hand, what if the protesters actually were all screaming about Jews. I wonder how many posters here would still be saying that it’s just all Jew orchestrated. And I wonder how long it would take for the authorities to then shut the whole demonstration down. I doubt there are many protesters who don’t know who the owners of Goldman Sachs are.

People are not inherently zio-wise and after a lifetime of nonstop propaganda they can’t be expected to just wake up to the truth. Right now all of the protesters are mad at Wall Street and I think that’s a good start. Unforeseen events have a way of showing up when the participants have a common focus but if people keep getting sidetracked and examining minutia because things, or the participants, aren’t ‘perfect’ enough for them then little or nothing will ever get accomplished, IMHO.

2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 12, 2011, 11:40:47 AM »
Thank you for responding.

As I understand it, it only takes a small percentage of the population to conduct a successful revolution. I’d bet there were only a few (founding fathers) who knew why the US was revolting against England and the rest of the revolutionaries were just there because they were mad at TPTB.

There are already tens of thousands expressing their disapproval of TPTB and those who are protesting simply because they have a foggy idea of why, are having their views sharpened by the small percentage who really know what’s going on, just as I have by reading this forum. I don’t see where this can be a bad thing and maybe it will lead to a stage where a million of them will be ready for your march. It all has to start somewhere.

Regarding these protesters, maybe – just maybe – if more emphases were placed on our similarities rather than our differences, enough leaderless leaders will step up and something good will come of it.

2011 / - Thousands in Chicago protest financial industry - "Zios"
« on: October 12, 2011, 09:43:58 AM »
AngelOfLight –
Well when I see these parasites march I know they are fighting against me because they fight against freedom and individual responsibility.

Wag –
For every 100 young ignorant protesters getting free meals and promises of a paid job, there are a few jewish organizers making 6 digit salaries and building resumes.

LoneWolf –
The whole thing is such an obvious dialectic as to have earned my contempt for the stupidity of the majority of 'the people'... ah, but then these fools are all 14th amendment citizens who long ago contracted away their freedom.

jacob gold –
The jew owns the government and Laconas and Walt debate as to wether the Jew will f**k the world

laconas –
They even own all the protests and protestors against their govt

EyeBelieve –
Joos are steering this as liberal vs conservative which they feel idiot goyim can comprehend.

Been following a lot of you folks since shortly after LF started and appreciate many of your insights and humor. My education has benefited greatly from lurking around and have much respect for the posters and owner here.

Aside from the MSM coverage, I think the protests are good in that they’re making a lot of people aware of the bogus economic/political system we have. I’ve seen some good videos of fairly intelligent protesters and although they might not be of the FP caliber, at least they’re getting the word out there and making others think. It all has to start somewhere and I think it’s good that Americans are finally doing something.

I don’t mean any disrespect here but what kind of protest against the PTB would you folks approve of? Do any of you have a solution to overcoming their control? And where would you start?

Or should we all just give up and stay home. Seriously.

2009 / Re: "There was no holocaust"...
« on: March 09, 2009, 05:34:45 PM »
the holohoax was used in the early 1900s. Maybe earliler....

Below is the best I could come up with.

They hadn't come up with the title yet but the number was correct. 

1900 - the N.Y. Times reported an address made by Rabbi S. Wise at a Zionist fund raising campaign: "There are 6 million living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism". ("Rabbi Wise's Address", New York Times, June 11, 1900, p. 7)

2009 / Re: "There was no holocaust"...
« on: March 09, 2009, 07:29:26 AM »
"that had to wait for the next round." - WRS

Correct.  I am not disagreeing with the 1978 date.  They missed out on 60 years worth of Russian reparations.

2009 / Re: "There was no holocaust"...
« on: March 08, 2009, 09:33:43 PM »
"but it wasn't until 1978 until the term entered the public domain" - laconas

I came across the following somewhere along the line.  How unfortunate that it took so long to realize the potential and develop the right marketing strategy.

1915 - Jacob H. Schiff, Meyer London, and Dr. Enelow Plead with the Rich to Give
"...more than 6 million are in the very heart of the war zone..."  " 6 million Jews endangered (by Russia, GK) in the war zone of WWI, who were enduring danger to life, grief and misery".
   - New York Times, January 14, 1915

1917 - the leader of the Jewish community in New York, Jacob Schiff, repeatedly called for an end to "this holocaust".
         - Naomi W. Cohen, Jacob H. Schiff, A Study in American Jewish Leadership Hanover, NH:          Brandeis University Press, University Press of New England, 1999.

1919 - the American Hebrew magazine used the word holocaust in describing the plight of European Jewry in an article written under the byline of a former Governor of New York

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