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2009 / Re: Good story on fake and altered news broadcasts!
« on: October 15, 2009, 10:17:47 PM »
Thanks, I got into watching a couple of other vids on the other forums and neglected getting back here to fix it, since I knew to wait to try to edit to prevent the spam filter triggering.

2009 / Good story on fake and altered news broadcasts!
« on: October 15, 2009, 08:59:46 PM »
Behind The Big News

Found it on a trucker's forum. Lots of neat and fascinating facts and revelations on news. Nothing new to folks here overall, but maybe something new here and there in it, and certainly worth watching.
It was produced by the JBS society interestingly. And though it isn't perfect - what is - it is pretty darned good.

2009 / Re: Private Merc Firm to take over Police and Prison in MT
« on: September 29, 2009, 07:43:26 PM »
This whole thing stinks more and more the more I dig into it.
A company that doesn't exist, with Washington D.C. offices that are only "virtual", and those "virtual" offices aren't even legit, with employees that don't exist, running a brand new prison complex with no contracts to hold any prisoners, driving vehicles adorned with the name of a police force that doesn't exist, all being run by a person who can't be located, with a spokesperson who is a 'naturalized American citizen' from a former Balkan state.

Yet more, this non-existent company has a database of who has what kind and how many guns, and demands those gun owners to submit their guns to being affixed with a tracking device.

Spookvilleus maximus.

Civics & Sovereignty / Re: Sheriff's Begin Revolt Against Federal Authority
« on: September 23, 2009, 02:41:05 PM »
Awesomeness! I'll have a chat with my local Constitutional Guard and make sure he knows about this one.
He's already a true CG anyway, thankfully.

2009 / Re: Quietly, Sotomayor turns on corporations; You™re not people.
« on: September 23, 2009, 11:51:55 AM »
I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
Author:  Thomas Jefferson

Unless you become more watchful in your states and check the spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that`¦ the control over your dearest interests has passed into the hands of these corporations. - Andrew Jackson

I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong it`s reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. - Abraham Lincoln

Mischief springs from the power which the moneyed interest derives from a paper currency which they are able to control, from the multitude of corporations with exclusive privileges... which are employed altogether for their benefit.
Andrew Jackson

The following are from Theodore Roosevelt's Biography from 1913

The Anti-Trust Law it was also necessary to enforce as it had never hitherto been enforced; both because it was on the statute-books and because it was imperative to teach the masters of the biggest corporations in the land that they were not, and would not be permitted to regard themselves as, above the law.

...the corporation has been guilty of immoral and anti-social practices, there is need for far more drastic and thoroughgoing action than any that has been taken, under the recent decree of the Supreme Court.

"Feudalism, with its domains, its untaxed lords, their retainers, its exemptions and privileges, made war upon the aspiring spirit of humanity, and fell with all its grandeurs. Its spirit walks the earth and haunts the institutions of to-day, in the great corporations, with the control of the National highways, their occupation of great domains, their power to tax, their cynical contempt for the law, their sorcery to debase most gifted men to the capacity of splendid slaves, their pollution of the ermine of the judge and the robe of the Senator, their aggregation in one man of wealth so enormous as to make Croesus seem a pauper, their picked, paid, and skilled retainers who are summoned by the message of electricity and appear upon the wings of steam."

A few others on corporations:

Multinational corporations do control. They control the politicians. They control the media. They control the pattern of consumption, entertainment, thinking. They're destroying the planet and laying the foundation for violent outbursts and racial division.   Author:  Jerry Brown

When Grover Cleveland was first elected in 1884 - the first democrat since the civil war - he ran against the monopolies and corporations that are now known as the robber barons.
Author:  Peter Schuyler

Like the government, corporations must be bound with the chains of the Constitution, and especially of the Bill of Rights.
Author:  L. Neil Smith

You never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose, nor a body to kick. - Lord Edward Thurlow

Turning corporations loose and letting the profit motive run amok is not a prescription for a more livable world. - Tom Scholz

The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That`s the only difference. - Ralph Nader

I think we have an enormous struggle to try to restore the power in the country and the democracy back to the American people and take it away from big corporate interests.
- John Edwards

Corporations are like a chainsaw. They`re a powerful tool, but if you don`t control them, they`ll rip your leg off. - Eric Armstrong

Multinational corporations do control. They control the politicians. They control the media. They control the pattern of consumption, entertainment, thinking. They're destroying the planet and laying the foundation for violent outbursts and racial division.
Jerry Brown

Now you have people in Washington who have no interest in the country at all. They're interested in their companies, their corporations grabbing Caspian oil.
Gore Vidal

Our supporters can send the message that it's wrong for politically connected corporations to make millions while people doing an honest day's work are being cheated out of an honest day's pay.
Morris Dees

The corporations don't have to lobby the government anymore. They are the government.
Jim Hightower

This (George W. Bush's) administration is not sympathetic to corporations, it is indentured to corporations.
Ralph Nader

And what some famous scum had to say about corporations, which alone should warn the wise:

I suspect that many corporations have begun to understand that they have an important role to play in the lives of their communities, and that allocating funds to support local groups helps them discharge that function and also burnish their image.
David Rockefeller

Give tax breaks to large corporations, so that money can trickle down to the general public, in the form of extra jobs.
Andrew Mellon

If you really want more quotes on corporations, I suggest Googling "corporation + Ron Paul" LOL

Seems to me that if al-Qaida were real, they would have issued such an announcement about the obviously corrupted 'elections' in Afghanistan which will seemingly keep the puppet Karzai in power. Why isn't al-Qaida worried about that?

2009 / Re: Quietly, Sotomayor turns on corporations; You™re not people.
« on: September 22, 2009, 08:24:27 AM »
Considering corporations can be bought and sold, maybe they should sue the government for their freedom from slavery.
How many of our greater leaders bemoaned the enshrinement of the corporation? Seems I have at least two in my signature quote gallery.

9/11 / Re: Fifty questions on 9/11
« on: September 15, 2009, 05:18:02 PM »

by Pepe Escobar
September 11, 2009

It's September 11 all over again - eight years on. The George W Bush administration is out. The "global war on terror" is still on, renamed "overseas contingency operations" by the Barack Obama administration. Obama's "new strategy" - a war escalation - is in play in AfPak. Osama bin Laden may be dead or not. "Al-Qaeda" remains a catch-all ghost entity. September 11 - the neo-cons' "new Pearl Harbor" - remains the darkest jigsaw puzzle of the young 21st century.

It's useless to expect US corporate media and the ruling elites' political operatives to call for a true, in-depth investigation into the attacks on the US on September 11, 2001. Whitewash has been the norm. But even establishment highlight Dr Zbig "Grand Chessboard" Brzezinski, a former national security advisor, has admitted to the US Senate that the post-9/11 "war on terror" is a "mythical historical narrative".

The following questions, some multi-part - and most totally ignored by the 9/11 Commission - are just the tip of the immense 9/11 iceberg. A hat tip goes to the indefatigable work of;; architects and engineers for 9/11 truth; the Italian documentary Zero: aninvestigation into 9/11; and Asia Times Online readers' e-mails.

None of these questions has been convincingly answered - according to the official narrative. It's up to US civil society to keep up the pressure. Eight years after the fact, one fundamental conclusion is imperative. The official narrative edifice of 9/11 is simply not acceptable.

Fifty questions:

1) How come dead or not dead Osama bin Laden has not been formally indicted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) as responsible for 9/11? Is it because the US government - as acknowledged by the FBI itself - has not produced a single conclusive piece of evidence?
Because the BinLaden family, close friends of BushCo, do not wish their son to be legally slandered, and the F.B.I. is unwilling to legally make the declaration and have that lie hanging around their necks when in future the truth comes into the light.   
2) How could all the alleged 19 razor-blade box cutter-equipped Muslim perpetrators have been identified in less than 72 hours - without even a crime scene investigation?
By knowing the entire planned events well in advance.   
3) How come none of the 19's names appeared on the passenger lists released the same day by both United Airlines and American Airlines?
They were not on the planes under their actual names.   
4) How come eight names on the "original" FBI list happened to be found alive and living in different countries?
The F.B.I. thought these men were dead, frightened enough, or out of contact long enough that they would not come forward.   
5) Why would pious jihadi Mohammed Atta leave a how-to-fly video manual, a uniform and his last will inside his bag knowing he was on a suicide mission?
Why would he also leave his copy of the Koran in the bag? He wouldn't. They were planted evidence.   
6) Why did Mohammed Atta study flight simulation at Opa Locka, a hub of no less than six US Navy training bases?
Where else to train a covert operative?   
7) How could Mohammed Atta's passport have been magically found buried among the Word Trade Center (WTC)'s debris when not a single flight recorder was found?
Both flight recorders were found. Atta's passport was planted, possibly by the same F.B.I. agent who threatened the WTC workers to keep quiet about the flight recorders. 
8) Who is in the possession of the "disappeared" eight indestructible black boxes on those four flights?
The same people in possession of the real Pentagon security tapes and the security camera tapes from the hotel and gas stations under the flight path.
9) Considering multiple international red alerts about a possible terrorist attack inside the US - including former secretary of state Condoleezza Rice's infamous August 6, 2001, memo - how come four hijacked planes deviating from their computerized flight paths and disappearing from radar are allowed to fly around US airspace for more than an hour and a half - not to mention disabling all the elaborate Pentagon's defense systems in the process?
Ask Cheney, he ordered that the plane be left alone, even yelling at a young officer who asked if his orders to do so still stood as the plane approached.   
10) Why the secretary of the US Air Force James Roche did not try to intercept both planes hitting the WTC (only seven minutes away from McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey) as well as the Pentagon (only 10 minutes away from McGuire)? Roche had no less than 75 minutes to respond to the plane hitting the Pentagon.
For the same reasons other officers in NORAD and other military locations were unable to do so; they were out of the command loop for that morning.   
11) Why did George W Bush continue to recite "My Pet Goat" in his Florida school and was not instantly absconded by the secret service?
To give a show of bravery in the face of danger so that his administration could gain face.   
12) How could Bush have seen the first plane crashing on WTC live - as he admitted? Did he have previous knowledge - or is he psychic?
He was plugged directly into the video feed of several Mossad agents filming the events from the street on top of a white moving van.   
13) Bush said that he and Andrew Card initially thought the first hit on the WTC was an accident with a small plane. How is that possible when the FAA as well as NORAD already knew this was about a hijacked plane?
He formulated a quick and very poor lie on the spot.   
14) What are the odds of transponders in four different planes be turned off almost simultaneously, in the same geographical area, very close to the nation's seat of power in Washington, and no one scrambles to contact the Pentagon or the media?
Considering it has never happened before, computing the exact odds is impossible, but can be accepted as nil. 
15) Could defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld explain why initial media reports said that there were no fighter jets available at Andrews Air Force Base and then change the reports that there were, but not on high alert?
Again, a quickly formulated lie.   
16) Why was the DC Air National Guard in Washington AWOL on 9/11?
Yes, if you consider being taken out of the command loop by Cheney/Rumsfeld as AWOL.   
17) Why did combat jet fighters of the 305th Air Wing, McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey not intercept the second hijacked plane hitting the WTC, when they could have done it within seven minutes?
They were never ordered to, in alignment with Cheney/Rumsfeld's orders and usurpation of the military. 
18) Why did none of the combat jet fighters of the 459th Aircraft Squadron at Andrews Air Force Base intercept the plane that hit the Pentagon, only 16 kilometers away? And since we're at it, why the Pentagon did not release the full video of the hit?
See above.   
19) A number of very experienced airline pilots - including US ally Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, a former fighter jet pilot - revealed that, well, only crack pilots could have performed such complex maneuvers on the hijacked jets, while others insisted they could only have been accomplished by remote control. Is it remotely believable that the hijackers were up to the task?
None of the 'hijackers' could have performed similar moves in even a light, single-engine plane.   
20) How come a substantial number of witnesses did swear seeing and hearing multiple explosions in both towers of the WTC?
Because cracking and failing steel and concrete makes a very loud sound very similar to an explosion, especially when under extreme stress leading to that failure.   
21) How come a substantial number of reputed architects and engineers are adamant that the official narrative simply does not explain the largest structural collapse in recorded history (the Twin Towers) as well as the collapse of WTC building 7, which was not even hit by a jet?
Because the official narrative is a load of hog-swallow.   
22) According to Frank de Martini, WTC's construction manager, "We designed the building to resist the impact of one or more jetliners." The second plane nearly missed tower 1; most of the fuel burned in an explosion outside the tower. Yet this tower collapsed first, long before tower 2 that was "perforated" by the first hit. Jet fuel burned up fast - and by far did not reach the 2000-degree heat necessary to hurt the six tubular steel columns in the center of the tower - designed specifically to keep the towers from collapsing even if hit by a Boeing 707. A Boeing 707 used to carry more fuel than the Boeing 757 and Boeing 767 that actually hit the towers.
De Martini was a glorified tour guide with absolutely no architectural, engineering or structural training at all, and was referring to a scenario with planes flying at reduced speeds and with much smaller impact areas.
23) Why did Mayor Rudolph Giuliani instantly authorized the shipment of WTC rubble to China and India for recycling?
Silverstien needed the materials destroyed ASAP and the site cleared for reconstruction so that he could collect on his double attack insurance and regain his income from the site cooperative.   
24) Why was metallic debris found no less than 13 kilometers from the crash site of the plane that went down in Pennsylvania? Was the plane in fact shot down - under vice president Dick Cheney's orders?
Most likely, thought the poor flying by the 'hijackers' could also have caused external parts to have fallen off the plane.
25) The Pipelineistan question. What did US ambassador Wendy Chamberlain talk about over the phone on October 10, 2001, with the oil minister of Pakistan? Was it to tell him that the 1990s-planned Unocal gas pipeline project, TAP (Turkmenistan/Afghanistan/ Pakistan), abandoned because of Taliban demands on transit fees, was now back in business? (Two months later, an agreement to build the pipeline was signed between the leaders of the three countries).
26) What is former Unocal lobbyist and former Bush pet Afghan Zalmay Khalilzad up to in Afghanistan?
Making sure Bin Laden was moving into a safe location so that he could not be captured or killed in the coming actions.   
27) How come former Pakistani foreign minister Niaz Niak said in mid-July 2001 that the US had already decided to strike against Osama bin Laden and the Taliban by October? The topic was discussed secretly at the July Group of Eight summit in Genoa, Italy, according to Pakistani diplomats.
Because it has been all but proven true.   
28) How come US ambassador to Yemen Barbara Bodine told FBI agent John O'Neill in July 2001 to stop investigating al-Qaeda's financial operations - with O'Neill instantly moved to a security job at the WTC, where he died on 9/11?
Further investigation my have revealed the plot of 9/11 and ruined the NeoCon's plans.
29) Considering the very intimate relationship between the Taliban and Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), and the ISI and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), is Bin Laden alive, dead or still a valuable asset of the ISI, the CIA or both?
Alive and well and ready for further utilization by the NeoCons.   
30) Was Bin Laden admitted at the American hospital in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates on July 4, 2001, after flying from Quetta, Pakistan, and staying for treatment until July 11?
No. That is a fallacy created to muddy the waters of truth. 
31) Did the Bin Laden group build the caves of Tora Bora in close cooperation with the CIA during the 1980s' anti-Soviet jihad?
No, but they were most likely used by them then.   
32) How come General Tommy Franks knew for sure that Bin Laden was hiding in Tora Bora in late November 2001?
Competent use of intelligence.
33) Why did president Bill Clinton abort a hit on Bin Laden in October 1999? Why did then-Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf abort a covert ops in the same date? And why did Musharraf do the same thing again in August 2001?
Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rove et al did not wish him killed yet.   
34) Why did George W Bush dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force nine months before 9/11?
See above.   
35) How come the (fake) Bin Laden home video - in which he "confesses" to being the perpetrator of 9/11 - released by the US on December 13, 2001, was found only two weeks after it was produced (on November 9); was it really found in Jalalabad (considering Northern Alliance and US troops had not even arrived there at the time); by whom; and how come the Pentagon was forced to release a new translation after the first (botched) one?
36) Why was ISI chief Lieutenant General Mahmud Ahmad abruptly "retired" on October 8, 2001, the day the US started bombing Afghanistan?
He wasn't a team player for the NeoCon agenda.   
37) What was Ahmad up to in Washington exactly on the week of 9/11 (he arrived on September 4)? On the morning of 9/11, Ahmad was having breakfast on Capitol Hill with Bob Graham and Porter Goss, both later part of the 9/11 Commission, which simply refused to investigate two of its members. Ahmad had breakfast with Richard Armitage of the State Department on September 12 and 13 (when Pakistan negotiated its "cooperation" with the "war on terror") and met all the CIA and Pentagon top brass. On September 13, Musharraf announced he would send Ahmad to Afghanistan to demand to the Taliban the extradition of Bin Laden.
Informing the NeoCons of the coming dates and flight numbers and other information they required to facilitate the coming attacks. 
38) Who inside the ISI transferred US$100,000 to Mohammed Atta in the summer of 2001 - under orders of Ahmad himself, as Indian intelligence insists? Was it really ISI asset Omar Sheikh, Bin Laden's information technology specialist who later organized the slaying of American journalist Daniel Pearl in Karachi? So was the ISI directly linked to 9/11?
We may never know the person's name. Possibly. Yes.   
39) Did the FBI investigate the two shady characters who met Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi in Harry's Bar at the Helmsley Hotel in New York City on September 8, 2001?
No. Why would they want to expose facts? Facts only allow truth to be exposed.   
40) What did director of Asian affairs at the State Department Christina Rocca and the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan Abdul Salam Zaeef discuss in their meeting in Islamabad in August 2001?
How best to assure the safety of BinLaden and his group, and finalizing plans to assist the attacks.   
41) Did Washington know in advance that an "al-Qaeda" connection would kill Afghan nationalist commander Ahmad Shah Massoud, aka "The Lion of the Panjshir", only two days before 9/11? Massoud was fighting the Taliban and al-Qaeda - helped by Russia and Iran. According to the Northern Alliance, Massoud was killed by an ISI-Taliban-al Qaeda axis. If still alive, he would never have allowed the US to rig a loya jirga (grand council) in Afghanistan and install a puppet, former CIA asset Hamid Karzai, as leader of the country.
Yes. Most likely they ordered the hit. 
42) Why did it take no less than four months before the name of Ramzi Binalshibh surfaced in the 9/11 context, considering the Yemeni was a roommate of Mohammed Atta in his apartment cell in Hamburg?
The NeoCons had hoped he would never be revealed. It was only due to intense investigation by outsiders that his name was brought to light.   
43) Is pathetic shoe-bomber Richard Reid an ISI asset?
No, he is a Mossad dupe in cooperation with clandestine members of our own government agencies.   
44) Did then-Russian president Vladimir Putin and Russian intelligence tell the CIA in 2001 that 25 terrorist pilots had been training for suicide missions?
Yes, along with African and Eurpean government intelligence agency members who were not in the NeoCon loop. 
45) When did the head of German intelligence, August Hanning, tell the CIA that terrorists were "planning to hijack commercial aircraft?"
February, or early March.   
46) When did Egyptian President Mubarak tell the CIA about an attack on the US with an "airplane stuffed with explosives?"
Late 2000
47) When did Israel's Mossad director Efraim Halevy tell the CIA about a possible attack on the US by "200 terrorists?"
Also late 2000
48) Were the Taliban aware of the warning by a Bush administration official as early as February 2001 - "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs?"
Of course. Both groups knew it was for forms sake only, and not a serious statement, made to save US face in future.
49) Has Northrop-Grumman used Global Hawk technology - which allows to remotely control unmanned planes - in the war in Afghanistan since October 2001? Did it install Global Hawk in a commercial plane? Is Global Hawk available at all for commercial planes?
Yes, numerous times. Yes. Yes. There were no 'hijackers' in control of any of the planes, they were all controlled from the ground, unknown to the 'hijackers' until it was too late.
50) Would Cheney stand up and volunteer the detailed timeline of what he was really up to during the whole day on 9/11?
Hell no. He does not want to be torn limb from limb.

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007) and Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge. His new book, just out, is Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009). [/color]

Heaven Above / CDC study: Swine flu deaths higher in older kids
« on: September 03, 2009, 01:57:56 PM »
CDC study: Swine flu deaths higher in older kids

  By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer Mike Stobbe, Ap Medical Writer   `“ 10 mins ago

ATLANTA `“ The first detailed study of U.S. children killed by swine flu found the outbreak differs from ordinary flu in at least one puzzling respect: It appears to be taking a higher toll on school-age youngsters than on babies and toddlers.

At least 40 children have died, accounting for about one in 13 U.S. swine flu deaths, scientists with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday. Two-thirds of those already had high-risk health problems, confirming what officials have been saying about who is most vulnerable to swine flu.

It is not clear whether the new virus is more dangerous than ordinary seasonal flu for kids, though some health officials suspect it is. But the analysis shows some preliminary and important differences:

`¢ Normally, half or more of the children who die of the flu are 4 and under. But more than 80 percent of the kids who died with swine flu were 5 through 17. Dr. Beth Bell, a CDC epidemiologist, said that may be because older children spend time at school and summer camp, exposed to more people than younger children kept at home.

`¢ Almost two-thirds of the children who died with swine flu had epilepsy, cerebral palsy or other neurodevelopmental conditions. In a previous flu season, only a third of the children who died had those conditions.

`¢ Other germs, working with swine flu in a one-two punch, were a big danger. A bacterial infection on top of the flu virus played a role in most of the deaths of otherwise healthy children.

Swine flu was first identified in April and is now responsible for almost all flu cases in the United States. It has caused more than 1 million illnesses so far, though most were mild and not reported, the CDC estimates. More than 550 lab-confirmed deaths and 8,800 hospitalizations have been reported.

Those statistics don't mean the new flu is worse than seasonal flu, which is particularly lethal to the elderly and plays a role in an estimated 36,000 deaths each year, the CDC says.

But swine flu is causing more suffering in children and young adults than is customary, and a lot of parents are worried. Some emergency room doctors say they are seeing a lot of mildly ill children brought in by parents fearful that it is a swine flu case that will turn worse.

Right now, cases are most common in the Southeast, possibly because schools are already in session, providing more opportunity for infections to spread, CDC officials said.

However, there are no signs that the virus is mutating to become more deadly, as some scientists feared, CDC Director Thomas Frieden said.

Each year 50 to 100 children die of seasonal flu. But it's hard to say whether children account for a higher proportion of deaths from swine flu than they do from seasonal flu. The CDC doesn't monitor seasonal flu deaths as closely as it does swine flu, and has no comprehensive count of each year's flu deaths to enable such a comparison.

The new report focuses on 477 lab-confirmed swine flu deaths reported through Aug. 8. Thirty-six during that period were children.

Only about 20 percent of those children were 4 or younger. That's unusual. Often, 50 percent or more of seasonal flu deaths are babies or toddlers, who have less mature immune systems and smaller airways, putting them in more danger from respiratory infections.

Two-thirds of the children who died had high-risk medical conditions. Nearly all of them had an illness related to the nervous system, including mental retardation, cerebral palsy, epilepsy and other seizure disorders.

Years ago experts recognized that children with neurodevelopmental conditions run a higher risk of serious complications from the flu. But the proportion of swine flu victims with that kind of underlying condition is high compared to a previous flu season, CDC officials said.

It's not clear how significant that finding is, because many of the children had other medical problems besides the neurological conditions that had weakened their bodies, CDC officials said.

Of 10 children who were healthy before they got swine flu, eight had a bacterial infection such as bacterial pneumonia along with the flu.


On the Net:

CDC report:

Hmmm, can you say, "They had their shots..."?
I'm willing to wager it is related to having had the multitude of 'inoculations' that leaves school kids in a more susceptible condition.
I would also like to offer the fact as told me by a long time friend, who still works at the same hospital where he has for over ten years now, that Swine Flu is FAR from the most common flu right now. He laughed when I asked him, and said we must be the exception, as he sees far fewer than last year, and the most common this year is again H1N2 (Asian Bird Flu) followed the H5N1, another Bird Flu strain. He says H1N1 is still pretty damned rare, at least around here.

History & Civilization / Re: The Last Circle
« on: August 27, 2009, 09:50:11 PM »
I can't read 1984 anymore. Every few pages I'm struck by the pertinence to today, and I just can't stand to read more, put it down, get drunk, and hopefully have a dreamless sleep.

That bit about being a Federal computer system is on the dealer-only area for the CARS program. The public/private citizen section of the site has no such disclaimer or statements.
This applies only to already registered DEALERS who are logging in for the purpose of reporting transactions and the likes in the CARS programs.
Any non-dealer who goes to that part of the site won't have any login credentials that would cause the notice to be relevant.
Beck = BS artist extraordinare. He's probably doing this to discredit the CARS program. Frankly I hate the program, as it serves mostly to remove cheap affordable cars for people who can't afford new cars, taking cars that should have years more use in them off the road and making it harder for many to own a car.

2009 / Re: Blackwater CEO accused of killing witnesses
« on: August 05, 2009, 07:59:04 AM »
Not so much as a single iota of surprise in me at this.
If there is such a thing as a corporate Satan, Blackwater fits the bill perfectly. Sorry, Xe Limited LLC.
Limited Liability Corporations...don't even get me started on that!

2009 / Brooklyn man (Jew) accused of buying and selling kidneys
« on: July 24, 2009, 03:53:04 PM »
By DAVID PORTER and CARLA K. JOHNSON, Associated Press Writers David Porter And Carla K. Johnson, Associated Press Writers

NEWARK, N.J. `“ Levy Izhak Rosenbaum of Brooklyn called himself a "matchmaker," but his business wasn't romance. Instead, authorities say, he brokered the sale of black-market kidneys, buying organs from vulnerable people from Israel for $10,000 and selling them to desperate patients in the U.S. for as much as $160,000.

The alleged decade-long scheme, exposed this week by an FBI sting, rocked the nation's transplant industry. If true, it would be the first documented case of organ trafficking in the U.S., transplant experts said Friday.

"There's certainly cross-national activity, but it hasn't touched the United States or we haven't known about it until now," said University of Pennsylvania medical ethicist Arthur Caplan, who is co-directing a U.N. task force on international organ trafficking.

Rosenbaum was arrested Thursday, 10 days after meeting in his basement with a government informant and an FBI agent posing as the informant's secretary. The agent claimed to be searching for a kidney for a sick uncle on dialysis who was on a transplant list at a Philadelphia hospital.

"I am what you call a matchmaker," Rosenbaum said in a secretly recorded conversation. "I bring a guy what I believe, he's suitable for your uncle." Asked how many organs he had brokered, he said: "Quite a lot," the most recent two weeks earlier.

As part of the scheme, the organ donors were brought from Israel to this country, where they underwent surgery to remove the kidneys, authorities said. Prosecutors did not identify which hospitals in the U.S. received the donors and their kidneys.

"The allegations about an organ trafficking ring in the United States are appalling," said John Davis, CEO of the National Kidney Foundation.

Israel Medical Association spokeswoman Orna Cohen said the organization had no reports there of Israelis selling organs. "If it's true, then it's shocking," she said.

Micky Rosenfeld, a spokesman for Israel's national police force, said Israeli police were not involved in the investigation, and he would not comment further.

Under 1984 federal law, it is illegal for anyone to knowingly buy or sell organs for transplant. The practice is illegal just about everywhere else in the world, too.

But demand for kidneys far outstrips the supply, with 4,540 people dying in the U.S. last year while waiting for a kidney, according to the United Network for Organ Sharing. As a result, there is a thriving black market for kidneys around the world.

Nancy Scheper-Hughes, an anthropology professor at the University of California at Berkeley and the author of an upcoming book on human organ trafficking, said that she has been tracking the Brooklyn-connected ring for 10 years and that her contacts in Israel have called Rosenbaum "the top man" in the United States.

Scheper-Hughes said she was told Rosenbaum carried a gun, and when a potential organ seller would get cold feet, Rosenbaum would use his finger to simulate firing a gun at the person's head.

Rosenbaum was arrested in a sweeping federal case that began as an investigation into money laundering and trafficking in kidneys and fake designer bags. It mushroomed into a political corruption probe, culminating in the arrests this week of 44 people, including three New Jersey mayors, various other officials, and five rabbis. The politicians and rabbis were not accused of involvement in the organ trafficking.

Rosenbaum, 58, is a member of the Orthodox Jewish community in the Borough Park section of Brooklyn, where he told neighbors he was in the construction business.

For someone who was not a surgeon, Rosenbaum seemed in his recorded conversations to have a thorough knowledge of the ins and outs of kidney donations, including how to fool hospitals into believing the donor was acting solely out of compassion for a friend or loved one.

He was recorded saying that money had to be spread around liberally, to Israeli doctors, visa preparers and those who cared for the organ donors in this country. "One of the reasons it's so expensive is because you have to shmear (pay others) all the time," he was quoted as saying.

"So far, I've never had a failure," he bragged on tape. "I'm doing this a long time."

At a 2008 meeting with the undercover agent, Rosenbaum claimed he had an associate who worked for an insurance company in Brooklyn who could take the recipient's blood samples, store them on dry ice and send them to Israel, where they would be tested to see if they matched the prospective donor, authorities said.

Four checks totaling $10,000, a downpayment on the fictitious uncle's new kidney, were deposited in the bank account of a charity in Brooklyn, prosecutors said.

It was not immediately clear Friday who Rosenbaum's attorney was.

Dr. Francis Delmonico, a Harvard professor, transplant surgeon and board member of the National Kidney Foundation's Board of Directors, said similar trafficking is going on elsewhere around the world. He said an estimated 10 percent of kidney transplants `” 5,000 to 6,000 each year `” are done illegally. Hot spots are Pakistan, the Philippines and China, where it is believed organs are obtained from executed prisoners, he said.

Caplan, the University of Pennsylvania ethicist, said he expects the U.N. task force to make recommendations in October that would hold hospitals worldwide accountable for establishing the origins of each organ they transplant and whether it was freely donated without compensation.

"There is a black market, almost exclusively in kidneys," Caplan said. "All international medical groups and governments ought to condemn any marketing in body parts. It's simply too exploitative of the poor and vulnerable. The quality of the organs is questionable. People lie to get the money. The middle men are irresponsible and often criminals. They don't care about the people who sell."

Scheper-Hughes said her research has uncovered hundreds of cases of illegal organ transactions brokered by and for Israelis in Israel, South Africa, Turkey and other countries, with sellers recruited from poor communities in Moldova, Brazil and elsewhere.

A few transplant surgeons support changing the law to allow a system of regulated compensation to increase the pool of donor kidneys.

Arthur Matas, a transplant surgeon who directs the kidney transplant service at the University of Minnesota Medical School, said donors could be compensated with some combination of lifetime access to medical care, life insurance, a tax credit, help with college and a small direct payment.

"It would minimize the extraordinary black market and exploitation of impoverished people internationally," Matas said.

Martin Weinfeld, who lives around the corner from Rosenbaum in Brooklyn, said the allegations bring shame on the community.

"It puts a bad name on good people," he said. "Religion is supposed to be about God, helping others, not about the cash."


Johnson reported from Chicago. Associated Press Writer Colleen Long in Brooklyn contributed to this story.

But organ harvesting by Jews is an anti-semetic lie and slur!!!

General / Re: Israeli Use Of Palestinians As Human Shields
« on: April 29, 2009, 04:02:08 PM »
If the UN weren't a False-Jewish controlled assembly, Israel would be held responsible for the endless infractions and outright breaking of international laws against such despicable acts.
Real Jews who know and follow the Torah get my respect and honor. The modern False-Jews or Zionist Jews of today who observe no Jewish religious edicts get only my disdain and hatred.
Israel has nothing to do with real Judaism or true Jews, it is nothing more than a power pawn for lying, dishonest, disgusting, perverted scum.
AIPAC has nothing to do with real Judaism or true Jews, it is nothing more than a power pawn for lying, dishonest, disgusting, perverted scum.
The 'Jews' in our government have nothing to do with the Torah or real Judaism, they are nothing more than lying, dishonest, disgusting, perverted scum.
A TRUE Jew wears black to avoid pride and vanity, a TRUE Jew wears a hat to cover his head, a TRUE Jew will not curse or spit on someone nor wish ill of any enemy, verbally or by action. A TRUE Jew will not cut his beard or any facial hair nor the sideburns or locks, a TRUE Jew sees non-Jews not as enemies or as any less a Man of God as himself and a TRUE Jew will treat anyone who treats him and his family as a friend as a friend or anything less than decently, a TRUE Jew will not own a car and their home will be modest and only what they need and all family members are welcomed to live with them, a True Jew disdains money and wealth and will give away what he does not need to support his family or friends to the poor of any race or creed or nationality or religion so that it will do good everywhere for everyone, a TRUE Jew will keep his ill and infirm and elderly relatives living with them as long as possible, and a TRUE Jew finds Zionism ridiculous.

FALSE Jews shave, FALSE Jews go out in public with their heads uncovered, FALSE Jews wear clothing of colors instead of black, FALSE Jews yell and curse and act rudely, FALSE Jews wish ill of anyone who disagrees with them and Zionism, FALSE Jews cannot properly quote the Torah just as a false Christian cannot properly quote the Bible having never read or studied it, FALSE Jews drive cars or show wealth by having a driver, FALSE Jews have fine homes with expensive furnishings and even a staff - but their elderly parents or family members will live in a retirement home or away from their home and family rather than bear that burden themselves in their fancy home.

Don't confuse the two.
There are Muslims and there are Terrorists. Don't confuse them either even though the two groups overlap considerably. If you're willing to make that distinction, then make this even more obvious one.
Generalizations are an evil to themselves.

9/11 / Re: Asbestos at the WTC
« on: April 29, 2009, 03:50:59 PM »
Ummm, that asbestos insulation was still in the buildings and was ordered removed. Still there on all those floors.
The replacement insulation
clearly states it was only good for ONE to THREE hours of fireproofing. It's mineral wool fibers are also a known breathing and lung hazard when in the air and was also slated as dangerous and to be removed along with the asbestos coating.
The replacement insulation was categorized as "unhealthy and dangerous to health" and discontinued and replaced with CAFCO® BLAZESHIELD® Type II which had additives that literally glued the mineral fibers together and prevents aerosolation (sp) due to degradation over time. The original stuff used in WTC buildings is also on the same list as all asbestos bases insulation as a health hazard.

General / Re: Izzy Shamwow Chosen?
« on: April 01, 2009, 11:48:40 PM »
Behind the scenes? This time he was dancing in the spotlight right out front.

Different buildings. Different loading. The China building didn't have several hundred tons of concrete and furniture in place yet. The top of the building didn't even have floors, though those walls and such did collapse some.
NO ONE heard booms as 7 fell. I've seen seven people saying they heard booms and explosions on youtube and such and posters have tried to say that was concerning 7 - when if you find the entire video you easily tell they are talking about the beginnings of the taller tower collapses and the interviews were lied about being about 7.
I personally know two people who were on the streets that day near enough to 7 to run like hell when it began falling. Falling without any noises prior. They heard groans and rumbles, turned and saw the building moving, and promptly ran for their lives.
The collapse of 7 is EXTREMELY suspicious however. While no booms were reported by anyone reasonable or heard on ANY video of the event, since when can fire bring down a steel and concrete building that easily?
Bridges several times now have collapsed because of a fire below them. Twice easily seen on video of the accidents. Concrete and steel bridges collapsing from a fire under them. Insane but it happens and has happened before. just doesn't seem logical or possible.
The only booms heard from 7 by anyone and reported as such believably were hours before and are easily explained as something in the building. Fuel tanks of which there were several for instance. Maybe demolition? By why set them off only twice and nearly an hour apart, and then only one set of demo charges at a time? Not a way to bring down a building and make it look like a fire did it. Had to be something else. Or maybe not. But still insanely stupid to do.
I still give the most credence to the story that a lot of tall buildings are rigged to be brought down by placing unprimed demo charges during construction. All tall buildings will be taken down sooner or later, none will last more than 100 years, most less than 50. So they are rigged from construction with charges that can't go off accidentally, but when fire burns hot enough for long enough, those charges 'burn off' instead of ignite like designed when set off with a charge instead of heat and fire. Perhaps 7 was so rigged and letting that info out will cause a great deal of people to no longer go into tall buildings once they know there are demo charges burined deep in the main columns. It would make me think twice about living or working in such a building.
Who knows.
Anyone who tries the 'small nuke' argument needs labotomized. Or kept in a padded room.
Even the TINIEST nuke would leave most of downtown Manhattan irradiated enough to kill thousands and thousands.
And if anyone tries the 'clean nuke' theory, you've found another idiot to ignore.
When they invent 'clean nukes' we'll have clean nuclear energy and atomic wars the next day.

General / Re: What Are Guys Doing for the 13th of Feb?
« on: February 11, 2009, 06:23:13 PM »
Considering Feb 13 is a Friday, I shall be dancing naked in a lightning storm under an over sized umbrella and shouting anti-semetic slurs at the top of my lungs while juggling electric carving knives and wearing surgical gloves coated with vaseline and standing in a steel tub filled with kosher pickle brine as I urinate down my leg.
The pickle brine will then be rebottled and sold as "Goy Supreme Kosher Love Juice" to be used by Jewess women suffering from Dry Vagina Syndrome.
All sales proceeds will go toward proving there were 6.7 billion Jews slaughtered in a prison camp in Hitler's back yard in Berlin while he was attending art classes at university.

General / Re: Boy They Are Really Pushing the Geese Story
« on: February 11, 2009, 06:17:30 PM »
You're kidding, right?
Anyone here in NY and care to snap a few pics of the geese and ducks in town even this time of year?
Hell, I'm near Chicago right now and I saw some on a berm along the highway out the window here near a pond.
I was near Indy last week and thought, "Fucking geese" as I watched and listened to them fly across the highway in front of us.
Geese don't fly at 3,000 feet? Someone better tell the geese that. They've been doing it since "the Jews gave them wings to fly into jet engines."

2009 / Re: Pope Benedict Bows Before Throne of Zion
« on: February 11, 2009, 06:00:51 PM »
As for the Pope bowing to Zionism, nothing new. Decades ago when the Vatican upheld the lie of the death counts at camps even though all records of the camp PROVED without a doubt the true numbers.
I believe the Vatican statement was something like, "The true numbers are irrelevant, it is the very act, not the matter of the true numbers that matters. Questions of true numbers are not important and should not be questioned."

Fairly common fact that any new phone has the ability to become a secret microphone for anyone with the access at the phone company handling your phone.

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