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Title: * Destabilizing Syria
Post by: amalgamy on September 28, 2008, 04:02:42 PM
"Israel Has Most to Gain from Syria Terror Attack"

28/09/2008
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Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said Saturday in response to the fatal attack in Damascus that "Israel is one of those who have the most to gain from this criminal act," Kuwaiti news agency Kuna reported.
 
Seventeen people were killed and dozens were injured in the Syrian capital Saturday morning when a booby-trapped car exploded on the road leading to the country's international airport.
 
"Unfortunately, in the years following the American war on terror, terror has spread even further. Such incidents can take place anywhere and do not indicate that there was a security breach. "I can promise you that Syria's security forces will continue to stand guard for the citizens and the state," said Muallem, who is currently in New York for the United Nations General Assembly.
 
At the meantime, counter-terrorist officers in Syria on Sunday hunted for those behind the car bomb.
 
Earlier Saturday, the Syrian foreign minister held a short meeting with US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and one of the issues discussed by the two were the Turkey-mediated negotiations between Israel and Syria.
 
WIDE CONDEMNATIONS
The terror attack in Syria was condemned by the US, Europe and the Arab world.
 
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice spoke out against the attack, while a State Department spokesman said the US had closed the consular section of its embassy except for emergency services and would reopen on October 5 after the Eid holiday.
 
The UN Security Council condemned the attack "in the strongest terms" and called for the "perpetrators, organizers, financiers and sponsors" of the attack to be brought to justice.
 
Lebanese President Michel Suleiman and Prime Minister Fouad Siniora issued a statement of condemnation, saying that "the blast which hit one of Damascus' neighborhoods and caused the death and injury of innocent civilians is a disgraced terror crime which we reject.
 
"It must not be accepted under any circumstances, particularly when it takes place in an Arab capital."
 
Hezbollah added its voice to those condemning the attack. "Hezbollah strongly condemns the bombing... and expresses its full sympathies with its brothers in the Syrian leadership, government and people in face of the atrocious attack that only serves the enemy of the nation in creating chaos and instability in the region," it said in a statement.
 
Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hassan Qashqavi strongly condemned the "terrorist and inhuman bomb blast in Damascus which took lives of many innocent civilians." Qashqavi in a message voiced the sympathy of the Iranian nation and government with the families of the victims and prayed for immediate recovery of those injured in the blast.
 
Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit, still in New York for the UN General Assembly session, expressed sympathy for the victims of the attack, Foreign Ministry spokesman Hossam Zaki said.
 
Earlier, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak sent a message of condolences to his Syrian counterpart Bashar al-Assad over the victims of the car bomb blas.
 
In Amman, Jordan's King Abdullah II on Saturday called the bombing an act of "terrorism," a royal court statement said.
 
In a message of condolences to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, King Abdullah also expressed Jordan's solidarity with Syria in its handling of the bombing.
Title: Re: "Israel Has Most to Gain from Syria Terror Attack"
Post by: laconas on September 28, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
I assume the "suicide bomber and al Qaeada nonsense" doesn't get much play inside Syria.
Title: Re: "Israel Has Most to Gain from Syria Terror Attack"
Post by: amalgamy on September 28, 2008, 05:06:50 PM
Probably the most obvious Jew hit since they blasted the CIA agents on the Gaza Strip.
Title: Re: "Israel Has Most to Gain from Syria Terror Attack"
Post by: laconas on September 28, 2008, 05:11:46 PM
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Probably the most obvious Jew hit since they blasted the CIA agents on the Gaza Strip.

That story went down the memory hole quickly...
Title: Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FLAT_HEADED_RUSSIAN on August 28, 2010, 06:04:01 PM
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/140392.html

Israel is reportedly preparing to strike arms depots and weapons manufacturing plants in Syria, claiming they belong to the Islamic resistance movement Hezbollah, a report says.


Tel Aviv has escalated its military presence in the occupied Golan Heights and the northern part of the Shebaa Farms, the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz said, citing a report in the Saturday edition of the Kuwaiti daily Al Rai.

The report quoted European sources as saying that recent Israeli reconnaissance flights, which violated Lebanese and Syrian airspace, are indications that Israel is ready to start a war in the area.

The potential targets are located far inside Syrian territory, the report added.

Israel remains technically at war with both Syria and Lebanon since it refuses to return the lands it occupied alongside vast expanses of other Arab territories during large-scale military operations in 1967.

In September 2007, at least four Israeli fighters crossed into Syrian airspace and launched an attack on an alleged nuclear facility, which caused a significant rise in tension.

Turkey-mediated talks between the two sides fell apart after Israel started the December 2008-January 2009 war on the Gaza Strip, which killed over 1,400 Palestinians.

Israel also started a war against Lebanon in 2006, which killed about 1,200 Lebanese, most of them civilians.

Israeli President Shimon Peres leveled a whole host of accusations against both countries, saying Damascus had supplied Russian-made scud missiles to Hezbollah, which defended the country during Israel's attacks on Lebanon.

However, the Israeli allegations have been categorically rejected by the governments of Syria and Lebanon as well as by the Hezbollah movement.
Title: - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 28, 2011, 11:23:38 AM
Internet Reportedly Down in Syria

Sarah Kessler January 28, 2011 by Sarah Kessler View Comments

source: http://mashable.com/2011/01/28/internet-down-syria/ (http://mashable.com/2011/01/28/internet-down-syria/)

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On the same day that Egypt has allegedly blocked the Internet, Syria may have made a similar move to silence dissenting voices.

According to Arabic-language website Al Arabiya, the country has suspended all of its Internet services.

Earlier this week, Reuters reported that Syria had imposed bans on two programs that allow access to Facebook, which had previously been banned in 2007.

The country has a history of restricting media coverage of poverty and corruption, but it’s not clear that it has gone as far as disrupting Internet service altogether. Shorty after Al Arabiya reported that the Internet was down in Syria, a government representative denied the claim. Many who said they were tweeting from Syria also commented that they weren’t having any problems accessing the Internet.

Reports from Egypt, on the other hand, confirm that the government blocked Twitter and then Internet access altogether in response to escalating protests against the regime of President Hosni Mubarak.

Hillary Clinton addressed the rise of Internet censorship in a speech last week, calling it the “new information curtain.” But Egypt and — if the report is true, Syria — are the first countries to push censorship to the point of completely shutting down the Internet.
Title: Middlebury student missing in Syria
Post by: laconas on March 24, 2011, 03:02:29 PM

It's a very badly kept secret that Middbury College is the top school in the US for teaching future CIA agents language skills. This must be the first wave of Indians the Jews have recruited to join the US foreign service. Of course he could be a Jew of India like Alona Abraham who was one of the hijackers on 9/11.


Middlebury student missing in Syria

10:07 AM, Mar. 24, 2011  | 
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Written by
John Briggs, Free Press Staff Writer


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Middlebury College junior Pathik “Tik” Root, 21, a student of Arabic who had a tense escape from Alexandria, Egypt, amid unrest there in late January, is missing from his studies in Syria.


His father, Tom Root of Ripton, said his son last communicated with the family from Damascus on March 16.

“Others have heard from him as late as Friday morning,” he said. “He disappeared Friday afternoon some time.”

Tom Root said he had no information that his son had become involved in anti-government demonstrations in Syria, but said it would be consistent with his son’s outlook to observe what was occurring. He said the U.S. Department of State was making inquiries at the Syrian Ministry of the Interior to see if Tik Root had been detained.

“That is our scenario,” he said. “He was at a demonstration and was picked up.”

Early Wednesday, Tik Root’s Facebook page had a message to him from a friend, posted Tuesday: “Ahlan, Apparently no one has heard from you since Friday. Can you let me know that you are okay?” That message was later removed. Root’s cell phone was still operating and accepting messages, but he did not answer.

After he and his fellow Middlebury College students left Egypt, Root decided to continue his Arabic studies in Damascus because it seemed at the time to offer stability. But demonstrations against the authoritarian regime of President Bashar al-Assad have flared up in Syria since then, particularly in the city of Deraa, about 60 miles south of Damascus and close to the border with Jordan. Four protesters were killed there last Friday by security forces, and Reuters reported six more were killed in a Deraa mosque Wednesday.

“It was a surprise to him as much as anyone that it’s getting complicated,” Tom Root said, adding that his son had begun an independent study course at Damascus University last week.

Rosemary MacRay, a spokeswoman with the State Department’s Bureau of Consular Affairs, said the federal agency was aware of Root’s disappearance.

“We have a report of a missing citizen from Vermont,” MacRay said. “When we are informed a citizen may be mssing, we work with local authorities.”

She said Root’s right to privacy precluded further comment at present.

Tik Root told the Free Press in February that while in Egypt, he had joined the demonstrations there, carrying a PVC pipe at one point as Alexandria residents feared a crackdown by Egyptian police. Excerpts of Root’s video of street scenes in Alexandria are posted at burlingtonfreepress.com.

David Carle, spokesman for Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said Wednesday the Vermont congressional delegation has been in touch with the State Department over the Root case.

“The U.S. Consulate in Damascus is trying to learn anything they can,” he said. “They’re using every lever available. It’s a delicate early point in this process.”

Middlebury College was terse when asked for comment.

“All of us at Middlebury College are concerned about Tik Root’s safety, Sarah Ray, the school’s director of public affairs, said in an email to the Free Press, “but we will have no further comment at this time.”

Root said in February that he planned to resume his classes at Middlebury, unless he could find another language program in the Middle East.

Contact John Briggs at 660-1863 or jbriggs@burlingtonfreepress.com

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20110324/NEWS02/110323053/1050/COLUMNISTS/Middlebury-student-missing-Syria?odyssey=nav|head
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on March 24, 2011, 04:22:49 PM

No fly zone for Syria coming soon.



Lieberman: West Should Deal with Iran and Syria like Libya


Israel's foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman claimed on Thursday that Iran and Syria pose a greater security threat than Libya and incited the West to deal with those countries like it's dealing with the Libyan government of Moammar Gaddafi.

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In a brief interview with Reuters after meeting his French counterpart, Alain Juppe, Lieberman did not explicitly call for military action against Syria and Iran, but said what goes for Libya goes for them. "These two regimes kill more citizens than the Libyan regime does, and the threat from these countries is much more serious than that from Libya," Lieberman claimed.
Lieberman also called the recent upsurge of violence in the Gaza strip a direct result of "incitement" on the Palestinian side. "I see a lot of efforts in the Palestinian Authority for reconciliation with Hamas and Islamic Jihad, but I don't see any readiness for direct talks with Israel," he said. "It is totally unacceptable."

Lieberman said Israel was ready for direct talks with the Palestinians despite the current status quo. "I believe any change in the peace process must be as a result of direct talks and not unilateral steps and not as a unilateral decision even of the international community," he said.

http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?fromval=1&cid=23&frid=23&eid=7383
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on March 24, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
Watch for this woman as Jews escalate their BS inside Syria. In her BBC interview she barely stopped short of saying Jews are behind the demonstrations in Syria.


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Bouthaina Shaaban

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Bouthaina Shaaban
بثينة شعبان
1st Minister of Expatriates
In office
2002 – 30 July 2008
Preceded by    Office established
Succeeded by    Joseph Sweid
Political and Media Adviser to the Presidency
In office
2008 – Incumbent
Born    1953
Homs, Syria
Political party    Baath Party
Religion    Muslim
Website    www.bouthainashaaban.com

Bouthaina Shaaban (Arabic: بثينة شعبان‎) (b. Homs, 1953) is a Syrian Politician and is currently the political and media adviser to the President of Syria. Shaaban served as the first Minister of Expatriates for the Syrian Arab Republic, between 2003—2008,[1] and has been described as the Syrian "regime's face to the outside world."[2] Born in Homs and a member of the Baath Party since the age of 16, she was educated in Britain and obtained her Ph.D. in English literature from the University of Warwick. Shaaban worked first as an interpreter for the Syrian presidents Hafez al-Assad and his son Bashar al-Assad.[2] Under Hafez she became an "adviser to the Foreign Ministry,"[2] and in 2003 she was named Minister of Expatriates, "a new post created to try to lure wealthy Syrian expatriates abroad — or at least their resources — back home."[2] In 2008 she was appointed political and media adviser to president Bashar al-Assad. Between 1985—2003 she was also the professor of Romantic poetry at the English department of Damascus University.[1]

Shaaban was particularly visible in English-speaking media after the Valentine's Day 2005 assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri, when she did several television interviews and wrote several oped pieces attacking the United Nations probe into Syrian involvement in the murder and insisted that Israel and the United States were responsible for Hariri's murder.[3]

In 2005 Shaaban was presented with "the Most Distinguished Woman in a Governmental Position" award by the Arab League. She is married with two daughters and a son.[1] In 2008 Bouthaina was the subject of an international feature documentary titled Woman by Ziad Hamzeh. Woman received the Golden Palm award from the Beverly Hills Film Festival and Bouthaina was handed the award in her hometown.



Flip side of media freedom


Bouthaina Shaaban writes: It is difficult to understand why Arab satellite TV stations deny what is happening in their countries while providing extensive coverage of protests in neighbouring countries

    * By Bouthaina Shaaban, Special to Gulf News
    * Published: 00:03 March 22, 2011


If there is a name for this age that everyone agrees on, it is the ‘media age'. Information, the speed of passing it and the ways of presenting it, which details are highlighted and which are ignored, the way it is sometimes even fabricated in a dramatised or cinematic manner do not fit well with the perception that some media outlets want us to naively have about their being completely free or the voice of the voiceless.

At a time that the electronic media have taken the lead, questions of competence, professionalism, technology and persuasion techniques informed by psychological or sociological knowledge and public relations add to the credibility of media coverage.

The media coverage of recent events in the Middle East and Japan shows an acute awareness, on all sides, of the importance of the media. The manipulation, exaggeration or moderation of what is happening is driving viewers who reject the hegemony of the media to seek other narratives from other different and diverse sources and then take the difficult position about where the truth lies.

Various calculations are made when passing a certain local or international piece of information through ‘free' and ‘official' media alike. Political, economic or even social and cultural news stories are structured and phrased according to specific positions and in response to certain interests and pressures.

The same applies to talk shows and interview-based programmes which appear to give diverse views and provide a platform for opposed politicians and personalities and claim that they are absolutely ‘free'; for here, it is about which questions get asked, about what, and who is answering what question.

News stories about the series of national disasters which hit Japanese civilians differ greatly from one media outlet to another. News of the hard and bloody events happening in Arab countries like Libya, Bahrain, Yemen and which have started to touch on Syrian cities, after events in Jordan, Palestine, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and all the countries of North Africa are striking examples.

While the Japanese authorities have been trying to provide information in a carefully studied manner that does not cause panic to the population, they seem to forget that those who seek the truth can use other channels to see a different picture of the suffering and danger engulfing survivors and the rest of the population threatened with nuclear radiation.

While one understands the Japanese authorities' handling of the disaster in a manner that does not cause more horror and panic among civilians, it is difficult to understand why Arab satellite TV stations adopt the typical position of absolutely denying what is happening in their countries while carrying on with the coverage of political activity calling for change in neighbouring Arab countries. Some seem to support a popular revolution in a far away Arab country while ignoring a similar one in a neighbouring Arab country.

Violence in many countries takes the shape of a full-scale war between authorities which got used to, and relished, absolute power and people calling for change and have nothing but their voices.
 
All these events are described in the concerned country's media as caused by ‘rioters' and ‘subversive elements' and other terms aimed at dodging reality, while they are shown clearly and in great detail in other official and private Arab and foreign media.

These, again, do so for their own purposes while ignoring other similar events in their own countries, or in some other Arab countries.

Challenges

In this sense, it seems that everyone understands that the media is ‘free' ‘to cover' or ‘not to cover' a certain event and ‘free' to cover it ‘wholly' or ‘partially'.

The West interferes in this or that situation at will; but the dynamic this time has internal and accumulated causes; and in any case, it seeks to find a reason to interfere to secure its interests and nothing else. Even when some Arab countries get into civil war, it waits for the right moment to interfere and co-opt the winning side.

The main objective is of course that the US continues to dominate the Arab region, control Arab freedom and their unity, which the West saved no effort, throughout the past century, to tear apart while at the same time arming Arab regimes with the latest technology for mass oppression and control through the media and other means.

Two months after the popular dynamics calling for individual freedom, political participation and overthrowing totalitarian regimes, it has become clear that this is the age of Arab change, particularly the political frameworks which have been frozen for so long in forms which do not meet the needs and aspirations of the Arab people.

All Arab governments must reform, guarantee individual rights and rectify their relationship with their people by building government patterns which allow for popular and pluralistic participation.

It is good that some governments have taken the initiative and started political reform and abandoned many of the authorities of the ruler to elected popular institutions, because the Arab people's reclamation of their right to express their aspirations is in the best interest of all.

Arab peoples are charting today the future of their political systems; and it is clear that they are seeking a new system characterised by plurality, freedom of speech and the rule of law. This is a tried and tested system worldwide and has proven to be the most stable and the one which best meets people's aspirations.

With the centenary of the two most ominous events in Arab recent history, Sikes-Picot and the Balfour declaration, approaching, we should not be cheated once again by a West which has declared its hostility to the Arabs by continually declaring its strategic alliance with Israel, arming it, supporting and funding colony-building and waging wars on us.

Today, too, it is seeking to interfere in Arab countries in order to achieve its well-known objectives of robbing Arabs of their resources, persisting in the occupation of Palestine and supporting repressive regimes.

Bouthaina Shaaban is the political and media adviser to the President of Syria

http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/flip-side-of-media-freedom-1.780497
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Stoic on March 24, 2011, 05:47:56 PM
Yes the west should fight israels wars,well maybe not,give that guy a uniform and a gun and parachute him in there.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on March 24, 2011, 06:17:45 PM
Yes the west should fight israels wars,well maybe not,give that guy a uniform and a gun and parachute him in there.

We owe it to the Jews after what happened to them in the gas chambers.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: wag on March 24, 2011, 06:59:36 PM
Watch for this woman as Jews escalate their BS inside Syria. In her BBC interview she barely stopped short of saying Jews are behind the demonstrations in Syria.

(http://www.mq.edu.au/mec/newsletter/i06/images/bouthainashaaban.jpg)

All she needs is a better smile consultant.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on March 24, 2011, 07:14:34 PM

She's pretty articulate, so I don't expect Diane Sawyer or any other jew owned media in the US to be interviewing her any time soon. That's actually a pretty good picture though. This is the picture the BBC used. The BBC says she's nuts for not accepting that this is a people's revolution; she suggested there was foreign intervention.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12856553
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: wag on March 24, 2011, 07:24:52 PM
She's pretty articulate

I'm not sure about either compliment.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on March 25, 2011, 12:32:00 PM
I'm not sure about either compliment.

She looks a bit better in the second pic.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on April 09, 2011, 04:19:00 AM
Dozens killed in fresh Syria violence

Sat Apr 9, 2011 6:34AM

source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/173828.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/173828.html)

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In this image made from television, protestors are seen near a barricade in Daraa on April 8, 2011.


Dozens of people, including significant numbers of security personnel, have lost their lives in a fresh round of violence that has ripped through Syria, reports say.

According to the reports, at least 24 people were killed and several others injured in several cities, including Daraa and Homs, in a fresh spate of violence that erupted Friday.

“Armed groups opened fire on citizens, policemen and security forces in Daraa, 101 km south of Damascus, on Friday, martyring 19 policemen and security forces in addition to several civilians,” state SANA news agency quoted an official source at the Interior Ministry as saying on Friday.

The source added that at least 75 security personnel were also injured, “along with many civilians by the armed groups' gunfire, stressing the existence of documented evidence about these assaults.”

The Daraa attacks occurred as Muslim worshipers, who had attended Friday prayers, were leaving al-Omari Mosque and heading downtown, the source said.

State TV also released footage showing masked gunmen open fire on mass gatherings.

Hundreds of people took to the streets in Homs, where “a number of them burned police cars and fired on policemen and security forces while a number of masked men on motorcycles opened fire randomly on citizens, causing injuries,” SANA said.

Anti-government protests have been held in several Syrian cities over the past weeks. The demonstrators are demanding governmental reform. Dozens of people have been killed during the recent protests.

The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings. But the government denies the allegation and blames armed gangs and agitators of foreign powers, especially Israel, for the unrest and the bloodshed.

LW - Now this would be the work of the usual suspects. Nothing revolutionary about armed agitators firing indiscriminately at worshipers and security personnel. Most definitely a move by the chosen to disrupt Syria, a long time target of Israel.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: bpocatch on April 09, 2011, 04:31:08 AM
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LW - Now this would be the work of the usual suspects. Nothing revolutionary about armed agitators firing indiscriminately at worshipers and security personnel. Most definitely a move by the chosen to disrupt Syria, a long time target of Israel. [/i][/color]

Men in black.  Either you or sushi had a post of them busted at G-7.   I saw some once in a land of brown skin, white skin protruding between glove and sleeve holding a firing AK-47.

Who are these guys?
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on April 14, 2011, 11:09:57 AM
Syria pardons protest detainees

Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:31PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/174802.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/174802.html)

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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has issued amnesty for all detainees that have been captured in the aftermath of the recent protests in the country.

The Thursday decree does not pardon common criminals, AFP reported, citing the state television.

"The president has decided to free all those held against the backdrop of recent events, except those who committed criminal acts against the homeland and its citizens," the television said.

Since mid-March, Syria has been faced with weeks of protests that have left scores of people dead, including a number of security forces.

Also on Thursday, a group of snipers opened fire on Syrian soldiers in western part of the country, killing one serviceman and injuring another.

The government has blamed the protests on armed gangs and foreign powers.

Lebanese security forces detained two individuals attempting to drive two vehicles, laden with weapons and ammunitions, into Syria earlier in the day.

On Wednesday, Syrian State TV broadcast pictures of what it described as confessions by members of a terrorist group. Security forces say the group's members received money and arms from foreign elements to carry out terrorist operations and incite unrest.

Syrian authorities have also announced the arrest of foreign elements that have played a role in provoking the recent tensions in the country.

Damascus has repeatedly denied allegations that its security forces were responsible for shooting at protesters, insisting that officers were given specific orders not to harm civilians.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on April 14, 2011, 12:28:54 PM
Unidentified snipers kill Syrian soldier

Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:50PM

source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/174780.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/174780.html)

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Syrian soldiers shout slogans in support of the country's President Bashar al-Assad in the capital, Damascus on March 25, 2011.

A group of snipers have opened fire on Syrian soldiers in western part of the country, killing one serviceman and injuring another.

"A group of snipers opened fire on soldiers as they were on patrol in [the city of] Banias,” reported the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) on Thursday.

Since mid-March, Syria has been struggling with weeks of protests that have left scores of people dead, including security forces.

The government has blamed the protests on armed gangs and foreign powers.

Also on Thursday, Lebanese security forces detained two individuals attempting to drive two vehicles, laden with weapons and ammunitions, into Syria.

On Wednesday, Syrian State TV broadcast pictures of what it described as confessions by members of a terrorist group. Security forces say the group's members received money and arms from foreign elements to carry out terrorist operations and incite unrest.

Syrian authorities have also announced the arrest of foreign elements that have played a role in provoking the recent tensions in the country.

Damascus has repeatedly denied allegations that its security forces were responsible for shooting at protesters, insisting that officers were given specific orders not to harm civilians.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: laconas on April 23, 2011, 09:56:51 AM
Driving back from the airport yesterday I had NPR on.  Along with the traffic, it didn't help my demeanor.  They were saying that the Syrian military was in civilian clothing to blend in with the crowd in order to snipe the protesters.  To my surprise, NPR also reported that the Syrian gov't had called the snipers foreigners.  Over 70 Syrians were sniped yesterday alone.  Jewish prophesy has the Palestinians moving to a weakened Syria.

PressTV is giving a different take on Syria compared to the other jew backed revolts.


Snipers, attackers kill five across Syria

Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:27AM

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Syrian state television shows weapons, ammunitions and wads of cash, belonging to an 'armed group.'

At least five people have been killed across Syria during attacks on the crowds heading to bury the victims of the recent unrest in the country.


On Saturday, unidentified snipers gunned down three mourners and wounded another in Douma, a Damascus suburb, AFP reported.

Two others died and several more sustained injury during an attack on a procession, which had departed from the southwestern city of Daraa.

Since mid-March, Syria has been struggling with protests that have left around 200 people, including security forces, dead.

Syrian authorities blame armed groups and foreign elements for the violence.

The tension comes despite Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's recent introduction of a new package of reforms, which he has said would meet the demands of the protesters.

Assad has also granted amnesty for all those detained during the recent protests, aside from those who Damascus says have committed criminal acts against the homeland and its citizens.

Earlier in the month, Lebanese security forces intercepted two vehicles carrying weapons and ammunitions to Syria.

The Syrian interior ministry has pledged to suppress the 'armed revolt' undermining security in the country.

"The latest incidents have shown that... armed Salafist groups, particularly in the [western] cities of Homs and Banias, have openly called for armed revolt," the ministry said.

The term Salafists refers to the Saudi Arabians, who practice Wahhabism -- an extremely intolerant interpretation of Islam.

HN/PKH/MMN
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on April 23, 2011, 10:57:02 AM
PressTV is giving a different take on Syria compared to the other jew backed revolts.

Well if you gave head a shake you would see that the Jews are trying to emulate the popular revolts in Egypt, Libya, Bahrain, Yemen and Saudi Arabia. I commented to that affect when the first stories came out of Syria in which snipers were targeting anyone that moved. It was clear that in that country it most definitely an attempt by Israel to disrupt the country... which is ongoing. But such nuances go right by you with your passion for finding a Jew under every rock. It seems to me that the 'cattle' might have a mind of their own seems to be a non-starter.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: laconas on April 23, 2011, 02:16:20 PM
Well if you gave head a shake you would see that the Jews are trying to emulate the popular revolts in Egypt, Libya, Bahrain, Yemen and Saudi Arabia. I commented to that affect when the first stories came out of Syria in which snipers were targeting anyone that moved. It was clear that in that country it most definitely an attempt by Israel to disrupt the country... which is ongoing. But such nuances go right by you with your passion for finding a Jew under every rock. It seems to me that the 'cattle' might have a mind of their own seems to be a non-starter.

The Jews started the revolution in Egypt but unfortunately, or fortunately, it didn't go their way once it picked-up steam. Every Egyptian in the street was asking TV reporters from America if the were Jews, or whether were working as spies for Israel? The Jews said enough and pulled the plug on all the free publicity. The watershed moment was when Lara claimed she was raped in a crowd.

Looking back, it's obvious they wanted Mubarek out cause he refused to use Egypt as staging ground for the take-over of Libya. Once Mubarek was out, the generals briefed in Virginia sent supplies and allowed the SAS, CIA, and Mossad to hit Benghazi and recruit local criminals.

Syria is another case; I don't think they're going to allow the paid mercs to get a foothold. Syria has a pretty good Russian missile supply to stop any attempted no-fly zones, and the media was on top of it from day one saying the Jews are behind the whole affair.

The situation in Syria depends on the support of Russia and Iran. So far it appears the Russians and the Iranians have plenty of advisers inside Syria helping the situation, and Syria might be the place the Russians finally say enough and offer overt military support. Of course an alternative theory to the Syrian situation might be they want sucker Iran into a full scale war.
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Post by: thomaspain on April 23, 2011, 09:47:45 PM
Well if you gave head a shake you would see that the Jews are trying to emulate the popular revolts in Egypt, Libya, Bahrain, Yemen and Saudi Arabia.

   This brings up an important question. Why are the Jews making these moves now? It is a concerted effort which required planning and preparation. Again, WHY NOW. What is going on in the Jew's minds. Do they feel some kind of pressure causing such a major move at this time? That they have gained such control over the nations that cooperated in this planning and preparation is scary. Have things gone much farther than we thought they had? 
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Post by: laconas on April 23, 2011, 10:38:01 PM
   This brings up an important question. Why are the Jews making these moves now? It is a concerted effort which required planning and preparation. Again, WHY NOW. What is going on in the Jew's minds. Do they feel some kind of pressure causing such a major move at this time? That they have gained such control over the nations that cooperated in this planning and preparation is scary. Have things gone much farther than we thought they had?

Why now? Probably because the BRICS have made their move and the Rothschild group knew they would be making their move. If the Jews don't have control of the ME and Africa what do they have control of? Mexico and Chile?
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Post by: Rudi Jan on April 24, 2011, 12:01:33 AM
Why now? Probably because the BRICS have made their move and the Rothschild group knew they would be making their move. If the Jews don't have control of the ME and Africa what do they have control of? Mexico and Chile?

The US, Britain, France, Germany, Canada, Australia, China, etc. ... the list is endless. Not that I agree that they were the instigators of these popular revolutions in the ME mind you... just the cause. That's just an assumption as far as I can tell, yet to be proved. But they sure can call on many western nations and African mercenaries to put down such temerity.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on April 25, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
Several killed in southern Syria

Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:51AM

source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/176576.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/176576.html)

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Several people have been killed in the southern Syrian town of Daraa. (File photo)

Several people have been killed and many more injured after armed groups clashed with Syrian security forces in the southern city of Daraa.

Syrian authorities say at least seven people, including four soldiers, were killed during the overnight clashes in the city. Some reports, however, put the death toll at 25.

Witnesses say thousands of Syrian troops backed by tanks have entered Daraa.

Syrian authorities blame armed groups and foreign elements for the violence.

Damascus has repeatedly denied allegations that security forces are responsible for the death of protesters, saying they have been given clear instructions not to hurt civilians.

According to human rights activists, hundreds of people have been killed since the beginning of protests in Syria in mid-March.

Two Syrian lawmakers have resigned to protest against security forces' failure to protect the people. The mufti of Daraa is also reported to have resigned.
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Post by: Sue on April 25, 2011, 07:05:25 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department said on Monday it has ordered some non-essential U.S. embassy officials in Damascus and all embassy dependents to leave Syria because of the "uncertainty and volatility" in the country.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-orders-embassy-staff-leave-syria-021923204.html

Posters Comment: Which indicates an invasion of Syria by evil countries serving their master, the Bilderberg group, etc.

This rebellion is orchestrated by an ex Syrian minister who now lives in exile in Belgium. He is related to Saad Hariri of Lebanon and awful King of Saudi Arabia. All snakes. Let's just hope that our despot PM will not join the gang but I think he will. He follows Bush doctrine.

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Post by: laconas on April 25, 2011, 08:26:11 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department said on Monday it has ordered some non-essential U.S. embassy officials in Damascus and all embassy dependents to leave Syria because of the "uncertainty and volatility" in the country.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-orders-embassy-staff-leave-syria-021923204.html

Posters Comment: Which indicates an invasion of Syria by evil countries serving their master, the Bilderberg group, etc.

This rebellion is orchestrated by an ex Syrian minister who now lives in exile in Belgium. He is related to Saad Hariri of Lebanon and awful King of Saudi Arabia. All snakes. Let's just hope that our despot PM will not join the gang but I think he will. He follows Bush doctrine.

They're suckering Iran and Russia into this fight.

Hold on to your gold.
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Post by: wag on April 26, 2011, 05:25:02 AM
They're suckering Iran and Russia into this fight.

Hold on to your gold.

Hold onto your sons too. 
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Post by: Rudi Jan on April 26, 2011, 08:24:35 AM
They're suckering Iran and Russia into this fight.

Sure they are. Iran and Russia are too dumb to see it right? If those two countries step in, contrary to their rhetoric of non-intervention since NATO began 'operations' in Libya who would oppose them? Israel...?

If those two lend aid it would come in the form of intelligence... and not that provided by the chosen.

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Post by: AngelOfLight on April 26, 2011, 04:45:25 PM
They're suckering Iran and Russia into this fight.

Hold on to your gold.

I believe they are fighting Russia and China, in the past years those two countries have spent billions on Libya and have come close to getting Libya on their side! But they know that they can't confront US physically that is why they are hopping to drain it and bring it down to her knees financially.

I believe Iran is a joke they can have a 'NO fly zone" in Iran in a week if they wanted too.
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Post by: Sue on April 26, 2011, 06:06:11 PM
They're suckering Iran and Russia into this fight.

There are only four countries left now without a Rothschild Bank. All other nations including Russia and China have one.

     Remember ~ Mayer Amschel Rothschild he who controls the purse strings, controls
     a nation, an industry,  or a household,  regardless of laws or rules.  Mayer Amschel
     Rothschild said:

    ''Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.''
    – Mayer Amschel Rothschild

Right now I cannot think of a single head of state in any nation who (except for the 4 countries that have not been reigned in yet - and maybe - just maybe Russia and China) are not beholden to TPTB?

Would Russia and China join forces to challenge US dominance? Russia and China have something that US and allies don't have and that's numbers. Many a time that has been their tactic, throw as many bodies as possible at the enemy. Plus those two countries have an advanced technology that most people dramatically underestimate.

While vacationing in Cuba in March 2006, I watched this program, I'm sure all of Cuba did. It was truly a spectacular event.

        Year of Russia in China
          Hu, Putin attend opening ceremony for "Year of Russia"

The two events of the Year of China and the Year of Russia are two massive projects unprecedented in history in terms of scale and scope, Russian First Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said.

2006-03-23

Hu and Putin announced the beginning of the Year of Russia from Jan.1 in 2006 when exchanging New Year's greetings. The two presidents exchanged views on a number of occasions and organizing committees were set up in both countries.

China's organizing committee was established in November last year, with Chinese Vice Premier Wu Yi as the chairwoman and 10 task forces established.

"The Year of Russia includes more than 200 programs, covering all fields like industrial projects, research and exchanges," Putin said in his speech at the ceremony.

Putin said a key purpose of the activities is to diversify bilateral trade and expand economic cooperation.

He said both Russian and Chinese governments, business sectors, art circles as well as citizens have made great efforts to support the programs. "A record-high number of people have joined the efforts of implementing the programs."

Putin highlighted the Russia-China ties, saying that the relationship is not only a key factor in maintaining stability in geopolitics, but also an example in exploring international cooperation.

"The relationship (between Russia and China) is not targeted at any third country. It helps perfect world order," Putin said.

Prior to the ceremony, Hu and Putin had held hour-long talks. A total of 15 documents were signed after their talks, including three on energy cooperation.

The two countries also issued a joint statement, pledging to tighten ties by furthering cooperation in politics, energy and regional affairs.

Putin arrived in Beijing on Tuesday morning for a two-day state visit to China. On Thursday, he is expected to meet with Chinese top legislator Wu Bangguo and Premier Wen Jiabao.

More here: http://www.chinaculture.org/gb/en_focus/2006-03/23/content_80419_2.htm



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Russian performers dance during an evening gala to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between China and Russia at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, capital of China, Oct. 13, 2009. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin attended the evening gala. The evening gala also marked the end of a half-year-long program, "Year of Russian Language" in China.(Xinhua/Zhang Duo)

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A Chinese singer (front) sings during an evening gala to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between China and Russia at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, capital of China, Oct. 13, 2009. (Xinhua/Zhang Duo)

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 Earlier Tuesday, Wen hosted a red-carpet welcome ceremony for Putin, who is on his first official visit to China since taking office in May 2008.They also witnessed the signing of 12 agreements, including agreements on natural gas and oil.

    "We should continue to work together to deepen strategic coordination, boost trade and investment growth and enhance the understanding between the two peoples," Wen said.

    "Let's work together from a new start point and usher in a better future," Wen said.

    The evening gala also marked the end of a half-year-long program, "Year of Russian Language" in China.

    During the "Year of Russian Language" in China, the two nations held more than 200 cultural exchange activities in about 20 provinces, autonomous regions and municipalities in China.
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Post by: Sue on April 26, 2011, 06:16:25 PM
(http://www.chinaculture.org/img/2006-03/23/xin_04030323092712967413.jpg)

More articles here: http://www.chinaculture.org/gb/en_focus/node_3008.htm
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Post by: laconas on April 27, 2011, 04:35:58 PM

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Would Russia and China join forces to challenge US dominance? Russia and China have something that US and allies don't have and that's numbers. Many a time that has been their tactic, throw as many bodies as possible at the enemy. Plus those two countries have an advanced technology that most people dramatically underestimate.

It comes down to wealth. If wealth measured by the dollar, the US wins. If wealth is measured by resources and goods produced, the other side wins.
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Post by: wag on April 27, 2011, 05:18:13 PM
Would Russia and China join forces to challenge US dominance? Russia and China have something that US and allies don't have and that's numbers. Many a time that has been their tactic, throw as many bodies as possible at the enemy. Plus those two countries have an advanced technology that most people dramatically underestimate.

It comes down to wealth. If wealth measured by the dollar, the US wins. If wealth is measured by resources and goods produced, the other side wins.

America will never be conventionally attacked, ...only sometimes conventionally defended against.  The problem is, what do you attack?  There are no clear operational vulnerabilities.  America can only be brought down down internally via corruption (evident today) and civil war.  The former we have via the jews, and that is why we have been weaken to this degree.  The latter the jews control via counter-acting factional strategies involving race and gender.  What Russia and China should do is work the pro-jew / anti-jew split here.  Putin is doing this in a very subtle way.  China may be doing it in subtle financial ways.  But they need to ramp this effort up, it's currently not enough.  America can bounce back easily without jews loosing control, and that would be very bad for greater humanity.  Time is becoming of the essence.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on April 27, 2011, 05:58:38 PM
America will never be conventionally attacked, ...only sometimes conventionally defended against.

Guess the War of 1812 has slipped down the memory hole. seemed the Brits found Washington easily enough and pretty much destroyed the founding documents... and some of those pesky concepts of freedom while they were 'visiting'.
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Post by: wag on April 27, 2011, 06:17:21 PM
Guess the War of 1812 has slipped down the memory hole. seemed the Brits found Washington easily enough and pretty much destroyed the founding documents... and some of those pesky concepts of freedom while they were 'visiting'.

Ask the Brits if they want to try it again.  Attacking America conventionally is a proven failure.  The Japanese will fall for that hook only once.  Hitler wouldn't, Putin won't, and the Chinese study Sun Tzu.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on April 27, 2011, 07:48:43 PM
Ask the Brits if they want to try it again.  Attacking America conventionally is a proven failure.  The Japanese will fall for that hook only once.  Hitler wouldn't, Putin won't, and the Chinese study Sun Tzu.

Not the point. The Brits did and succeeded back then. Of course they used colony troops. And don't think they wouldn't do it again, with other foreign troops. Hitler didn't even want to attack Britain never mind the US of A. Russia was occupied by North American Jews when it attacked Poland and certainly didn't consider invading the US of A. As to the Chines, they may study Tsu Sun but their Jew masters don't, or if they do they could care less as he was a goyim. They're not building them up for nothing. Japan was provoked and never considered invading the mainland in any case.

In any event as you said, if invasion comes it is from the inside. That's pretty much a done deal.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on April 28, 2011, 02:38:02 AM

In the meantime, jew owned news in the US just say -- "Assad is killing his own people."


"Terrorists" snipe at passers-by, cut off roads in Syria's Daraa

English.news.cn   2011-04-28 03:24:28    

DAMASCUS, April 27 (Xinhua) -- An official military source said Wednesday that armed "extremist terrorist groups" have cut off roads in the southern province of Daraa and sniped at passers-by, official SANA news agency reported.

"Terrorist groups" used civil vehicles with forged plates to transfer weaponry and explosives, the source said, adding that army units confronted the groups, killed a number of their members, and chased those who tried to run away.

One of the security forces was killed and five others wounded, including an ambulance driver and a nurse, it said.

In the meantime, the Syrian TV showed footage of the funeral procession of six Syrian policemen and army officers, who it said were killed a day earlier by "extremist terrorist groups."

Daraa has been the hotbed of more than five weeks of protests in Syria with mounting calls for sweeping reforms. The government has made many gestures to quell the protests and blamed the rising violence on armed thugs and foreign conspiracy.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-04/28/c_13849030.htm
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Post by: wag on April 28, 2011, 04:55:11 AM
In the meantime, jew owned news in the US just say -- "Assad is killing his own people."


"Terrorists" snipe at passers-by, cut off roads in Syria's Daraa

English.news.cn   2011-04-28 03:24:28    

DAMASCUS, April 27 (Xinhua) -- An official military source said Wednesday that armed "extremist terrorist groups" have cut off roads in the southern province of Daraa and sniped at passers-by, official SANA news agency reported.

"Terrorist groups" used civil vehicles with forged plates to transfer weaponry and explosives, the source said, adding that army units confronted the groups, killed a number of their members, and chased those who tried to run away.

One of the security forces was killed and five others wounded, including an ambulance driver and a nurse, it said.

In the meantime, the Syrian TV showed footage of the funeral procession of six Syrian policemen and army officers, who it said were killed a day earlier by "extremist terrorist groups."

Daraa has been the hotbed of more than five weeks of protests in Syria with mounting calls for sweeping reforms. The government has made many gestures to quell the protests and blamed the rising violence on armed thugs and foreign conspiracy.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-04/28/c_13849030.htm

It's funny that Syrian media uses code words in quotations when they mean jews, mossad and western agents.  What are they afraid of?  Will we live to the day when a spade is called a spade again?
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Post by: jacob gold on April 28, 2011, 04:57:22 AM
Terrorist snipers aka Jewilian mercenaries
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Post by: Rudi Jan on April 28, 2011, 09:01:42 PM
So if you combine all news reports about mercs,ghadaffi troops,  rebels and lonewolfs suggestion that nato seems to attack rebels instead of helping them would imply the following 'possible scenario...

And they seem to be doing a good job of it. Frankly I think NATO targets just about anything that moves. Like Iraq they are destroying the infrastructure and causing havoc all over. It really matters little to them who wins... in the end there will be nothing left and they can move in with loans and aid and have the 'winner' pledge everything that isn't nailed down as collateral. In the end they'll own it all. To the Jews everyone is the enemy.

As to Russia... they abstained from the vote since opposition might have kept NATO from getting involved. They seem to be inclined to let the west waste itself though attrition in arms, men and finances. I really don't think they would see it in their best interest to get into this new war, either overtly or covertly. Unless of course they wish to prolong the conflict to further western expenditures of blood and money. But that could prove a little too tricky and seems unlikely. seeing the west continue on it's wasteful crusades is satisfying enough. Plus they get to point fingers and further embarrass the US.
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Post by: Unterhund on April 29, 2011, 06:54:54 PM
Some people Jakob, obviously not those as well educated as you </sarcasm> , seem to feel it might be Iran which is behind the snipers.

http://www.youtube.com/v/b-qPCMCQXDQ

Of course, it must be sad, for such a genius as you</sarcasm>, to see how badly the whole world is deceived.

I myself am in such a quandry.  My  sink faucet is plugged up.  For the life of me, I cannot figure how the Jews are in any way involved with this.  Perhaps you can enlighten me.  I don't believe we have even a single Mossad agent in the neighborhood.  But then again, who am I?
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Post by: FrontierJustice on April 30, 2011, 11:41:35 AM
Sure they are. Iran and Russia are too dumb to see it right? If those two countries step in, contrary to their rhetoric of non-intervention since NATO began 'operations' in Libya who would oppose them? Israel...?

The Zio International want Iran bombed to dust and all the people in it under the yoke or dead. They've always used Russia to subvert the US and the US to subvert Russia. The weakening of decisiveness and cohesion within nations is always the first goal because you can manipulate dough, you can't manipulate steel. Russia and Iran are much more cohesive at this hour as nations than the 'United' States.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on April 30, 2011, 12:47:47 PM
The Zio International want Iran bombed to dust and all the people in it under the yoke or dead. They've always used Russia to subvert the US and the US to subvert Russia. The weakening of decisiveness and cohesion within nations is always the first goal because you can manipulate dough, you can't manipulate steel. Russia and Iran are much more cohesive at this hour as nations than the 'United' States.

True all that - but I'm just not sure what the level of manipulation of control exercise in either nation. I keep searching for indicators but the signals are too subtle and too often confusing. I think that China will be their next enforcer, not against Russia or Iran (then again) but against the West, the US in particular.
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Post by: Rach on April 30, 2011, 07:27:37 PM

I myself am in such a quandry.  My  sink faucet is plugged up.  For the life of me, I cannot figure how the Jews are in any way involved with this.  Perhaps you can enlighten me.  I don't believe we have even a single Mossad agent in the neighborhood.  But then again, who am I?


Your neighborhood is sure to have a sayanim.  There are a couple in my neighborhood.
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Post by: FrontierJustice on April 30, 2011, 08:23:12 PM
True all that - but I'm just not sure what the level of manipulation of control exercise in either nation. I keep searching for indicators but the signals are too subtle and too often confusing. I think that China will be their next enforcer, not against Russia or Iran (then again) but against the West, the US in particular.

The Chinese are brought up on force, their methods of force are ruthless at heart - because China is still communist at heart, and they seem to have little but disdain and nemesistic intent for America. The ChiComs want their national glory and Americans don't give a sh*t anymore, they just want to be left alone. Unfortunately our jew government won't leave the rest of the world alone, and so until we take care of that problem (jews in power), we're stuck having to be held responsible for their actions.

The Chinese are the perfect wrecking ball to use while zios sit at the controls, waiting to see if America can become weakened enough at it's core to finally swing it. Internationalist Jews have been building up this dancing confrontation for decades, but Wag has a good point below about how America is not a nation you want to invade. Internal violence ('civil war') seems a much more likely scenario after jews collapse the economy. Look at what's being done to Syria with these mysterious foreign snipers and provocateurs and ask if it can't be done in America with some zio-mercs from abroad (Jews fancy themselves as good impersonators of Arabs, South Americans, Europeans etc). At that point I can imagine Chinese 'peacekeepers' on our soil.

Nothing is set in stone. Prophecy is escapism. Cold hard realism is needed but with a charge of bleeding heart nationalist cohesiveness. It can be done on a grass roots level (don't get me started).

It's not too late but the days are numbered and we're at the point where we're only going to have one big chance to turn this all around. I notice jews are feeling less at home in America as of late.
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Post by: laconas on April 30, 2011, 08:34:40 PM
The Chinese are brought up on force, their methods of force are ruthless at heart - because China is still communist at heart, and they seem to have little but disdain and nemesistic intent for America. The ChiComs want their national glory and Americans don't give a sh*t anymore, they just want to be left alone. Unfortunately our jew government won't leave the rest of the world alone, and so until we take care of that problem (jews in power), we're stuck having to be held responsible for their actions.

The Chinese are the perfect wrecking ball to use while zios sit at the controls, waiting to see if America can become weakened enough at it's core to finally swing it. Internationalist Jews have been building up this dancing confrontation for decades, but Wag has a good point below about how America is not a nation you want to invade. Internal violence ('civil war') seems a much more likely scenario after jews collapse the economy. Look at what's being done to Syria with these mysterious foreign snipers and provocateurs and ask if it can't be done in America with some zio-mercs from abroad (Jews fancy themselves as good impersonators of Arabs, South Americans, Europeans etc). At that point I can imagine Chinese 'peacekeepers' on our soil.

Nothing is set in stone. Prophecy is escapism. Cold hard realism is needed but with a charge of bleeding heart nationalist cohesiveness. It can be done on a grass roots level (don't get me started).

It's not too late but the days are numbered and we're at the point where we're only going to have one big chance to turn this all around. I notice jews are feeling less at home in America as of late.

If that scenario played out, it would mean the end of Jewish power. Jews might sell out America looking for greener pastures, as they have done in the past with other nations, but the Chinese will find no use for their bs once they are on top.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on May 01, 2011, 06:23:34 AM
Some people Jakob, obviously not those as well educated as you </sarcasm> , seem to feel it might be Iran which is behind the snipers.

http://www.youtube.com/v/b-qPCMCQXDQ

Of course, it must be sad, for such a genius as you</sarcasm>, to see how badly the whole world is deceived.

I myself am in such a quandry.  My  sink faucet is plugged up.  For the life of me, I cannot figure how the Jews are in any way involved with this.  Perhaps you can enlighten me.  I don't believe we have even a single Mossad agent in the neighborhood.  But then again, who am I?



Jamie Rubin lays out a good scenerio  .... I think the tactic of the Syrian leader using arab snipers to kill arab women is a great strategy. You know the Nazis threw jew babies in the train's boilers when they needed a burst of speed.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on May 06, 2011, 12:16:47 PM
Syria unrest claims 21 lives

Fri May 6, 2011 5:45PM

source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/178606.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/178606.html)

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Syrian pro-reform protesters march during a demonstration following the Friday Prayers in the city of Homs, April 22, 2011.

At least 21 people have been killed and many others wounded after pro-reform demonstrations in several Syrian cities turned violent, rights activists say.

Ammar Qurabi, head of the National Organization for Human Rights in Syria, said on Friday that six people were killed in Hama and 15 others in Homs and that all died of gunshot wounds.

According to Syrian officials, an army officer and four policemen are among those killed in Homs.

Witnesses say, thousands of pro-reform demonstrators took to the streets in several Syrian cities including the capital on a Friday dubbed "Day of Defiance" to demand political reform.

Meanwhile, the army has withdrawn troops and tanks from the southern city of Deraa after a week. Syrian authorities say the withdrawal came after security and stability returned to the city.

Since the beginning of protests in Syria in mid-March, hundreds of people including security forces and soldiers have been killed.

While the opposition accuses the security forces of being behind the killings, Syrian authorities blame armed groups and foreign elements for the violence, saying security forces have been given clear instructions not to hurt civilians.

Damascus says it has arrested several members of armed terrorist groups, who have confessed to receiving weapons and money from foreign organizations to kill civilians and security forces in a bid to cause chaos in the country.
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Post by: Jan Robertson on May 06, 2011, 08:39:55 PM
Syria unrest claims 21 lives

Fri May 6, 2011 5:45PM

source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/178606.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/178606.html)

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Syrian pro-reform protesters march during a demonstration following the Friday Prayers in the city of Homs, April 22, 2011.
Damascus says it has arrested several members of armed terrorist groups, who have confessed to receiving weapons and money from foreign organizations to kill civilians and security forces in a bid to cause chaos in the country.

On Australian TV last night a man (identity hidden) told how he had been offerred $100,000 to join protestors and kill civilians and military, and to recruit others to protest, he was told he would receive $50,000 up front with the remaining $50,000 to be paid at the end of the protests and recuits would receive $5,000 each.

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Post by: Rudi Jan on May 06, 2011, 10:54:42 PM
On Australian TV last night a man (identity hidden) told how he had been offerred $100,000 to join protestors and kill civilians and military, and to recruit others to protest, he was told he would receive $50,000 up front with the remaining $50,000 to be paid at the end of the protests and recuits would receive $5,000 each.

It's encouraging to know America's tax dollars are being put to good use. Faux revolutions don't come cheap. There is no real incentive other than cash.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: mallard on May 06, 2011, 10:56:32 PM
Quote: Mystica:

"On Australian TV last night a man (identity hidden) told how he had been offerred $100,000 to join protestors and kill civilians and military, and to recruit others to protest, he was told he would receive $50,000 up front with the remaining $50,000 to be paid at the end of the protests and recuits would receive $5,000 each."

Thanks for relaying this.  It explains a lot and still leaves one to wonder who's putting up that kind of money to cause civil war in Syria and elsewhere.  I assume the man was asked but didn't know or really care who they were.

Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Jan Robertson on May 07, 2011, 09:28:18 AM
Thanks for relaying this.  It explains a lot and still leaves one to wonder who's putting up that kind of money to cause civil war in Syria and elsewhere.  I assume the man was asked but didn't know or really care who they were.

We didn't get the entire interview ... I suspect that was to prevent his identity becoming known, but it was made obvious that he wasn't the only one to receive the offer.

As to the 'who' I would suggest the ones who have the most money to 'invest'.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on May 07, 2011, 08:02:01 PM
Six Syrians killed in Baniyas

Sat May 7, 2011 11:32PM

source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/178771.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/178771.html)

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Syrian protesters staged a demonstration in the port city of Baniyas on Friday, May 6.

Six Syrian protesters have been killed in clashes in the northwestern city of Baniyas, which is seen as the hotbed of opposition rallies in the country.

Five others were also wounded in the incident on Saturday, AFP reported.

Human rights activists in Syria also said troops and tanks have entered Baniyas.

The opposition says the security forces are behind the violence, but the Syrian government says armed thugs, acting in line with foreign conspiracies, are the culprits.

Most communications in Baniyas have been disrupted and residents reported heavy gunfire, while the Syrian Army confirmed it conducted an operation in the city.

"Army units and security forces today pursued members of terrorist groups in and around Baniyas and neighborhoods of Daraa to restore security and stability," a military official said.

"They arrested people and seized a quantity of weapons that these groups have used to attack the army and citizens and scare people," he added.

On Saturday, the army held a funeral ceremony for 11 army soldiers and policemen killed by armed groups in Homs on Friday.

The army said five of the soldiers were killed when a military checkpoint came under attack by unidentified gunmen.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: AngelOfLight on May 15, 2011, 05:56:36 AM
Syria: Tide Turns In Favour Of Assad
By Dr Franklin Lamb
From Damascus


As many of us observe the great Arab and Islamic awakening of 2011 in stunned amazement, as it rapidly spreads across the region,  this observer agrees with those who declare, “ well it’s about time—Godspeed  to the  rebels and goodbye to the despots.”
Indeed, most of the despots had been installed and propped-up by the US government and its allies without many American citizens’ awareness or liking.
What I continue to find in Syria and what I saw during my first 24 hours in Damascus shocked me.  It was not at all what one expected to find having read a fair bit of the Western and some of the Arab media reports, and arriving from the Syria-Lebanon border at Maznaa.
One expected to see fear, tension, and people hiding in homes, ubiquitous police and partially hidden and disguised security personnel in the shadows, watching from behind tinted glassed cars, curtained windows and from roof tops. I expected to see military vehicles, empty streets after dusk, reticence to discuss politics, tense faces on the streets.
 None of this was to seen in Syria’s capital and villages to the west.
Today, Damascus is as it always has been during my visits, bustling, clean, parks filled with families and couples, ubiquitous green spaces with beautifully planted and manicured gardens, packed outdoor cafes and coffee houses with young and old seemingly discussing any subject including current events and appearing very much at ease.
The streets of parts of Damascus as late as two in the morning appear like Georgetown on a Friday night. Of course, it did not take long for an American acquaintance to say precisely what I was thinking:  “which American city would anyone feel as carefree and comfortable meandering around at any hour of the day or night with no policeman in site, as in Damascus.  Not my city for sure!”
Life in Damascus, even during this period, is a far cry from Beirut in many aspects including the welcomed fact that Damacene drivers do not insanely honk their horns constantly and insult one another, people actually wear seat belts, drivers stop for red lights and don’t always race their cars if they see 20 feet of unoccupied road space ahead of them and drivers here seem to respect pedestrians and don’t appear to frantically search for every chance to gain an inch on the vehicles next to them by  quickly cutting in front and  pretending not see the other driver.
In short, Damascus appears energetic but relaxed and tension free.
Exactly what is going in some parts of Syria cannot easily be reliably known to foreigners given the sporadic and unverified, often politically skewed reports, but it is clear that the areas visited are normal, at least on the surface.
 
While lunching this week with old and new friends in a house that was built in 1840  in the heart of Old Damascus and its Souks, near Hamman Al Bakra,  and restored in the mid- 1990’s to its original authenticity, one could not help recalling what history teaches about this special ancient place known for tolerance.
 Located near the Jewish quarter of Damascus, we enjoyed a truly divine meal of Mukabbelat (seemingly endless plates of delicious Syrian oeuvres) near an old Synagogue, next to a 12th century Mosque and around the corner from a Byzantium Church.  An old Jewish man taught us with his stories about the brotherliness that existed in this region before the 19th century Zionist colonial enterprise glopped itself onto Palestine and commenced modern history’s most sustained criminal campaign of ethnic cleansing, now in its 7th decade.
Americans in Syria I spoke with, some tourists and a number of students studying Arabic are not alarmed by the ‘travel warnings’ issued from the US Embassy advising them to leave. As in Lebanon Americans here learned long ago that Embassy warnings for them to leave or not visit, appeared more related to periodically punishing Lebanon and its economy for supporting the   Hezbollah led resistance than concern for the safety of US citizens. More times than the State Department wants to admit, both Hezbollah and the Syrian government have not only protected US citizens but also US Embassies as they seek stability in both countries.
With respect to protecting and evacuating Americans from danger in the region, some bright student will, one of these days, write an MA quality thesis on the US State Department’s own performance during the July 2006 war. The research will presumably detail how Americans citizens were left stranded-particularly-but not solely-in the Tyre region of South Lebanon. There is much available data on how those Americans most in need of departure assistance, while sheltering from American bombs and US artillery shells gifted to Israel, got short shrift form their government.
 Embassy Beirut failed in 2006, even to publicly protest their bombardment as the huddled Yanks at Tyre port waited for a promised US destroyer to evacuate them. When an American craft finally approached the harbor, it hastily turned tail 180 degrees because the Israeli government ignored US entreaties to “let our people go.”   Memories are still clear and feelings still raw as American citizens recall panicked calls from Tyre to Embassy Beirut and  the notorious American Citizen Services staffer “John” shouting at desperate Americans to “ God damnit, stop tying up our phone lines” and to  “make your own way to Beirut.”  “John” may not have known that the Israelis were targeting convoys of civilians who were desperately trying to do the latter.
Currently, some US citizens in Syria express cynicism about their Embassy issuing ‘warder travel advisories.”  While perhaps generally well meaning, pessimism persists about their real purpose which in the case of Syria are widely believed to be just another political sanction aimed at squeezing the Assad government to stop supporting the Resistance to Israel’s occupation of Palestine. Both the US and Syrian governments know that these “travel advisories” deprive the Syrian economy of millions of dollars per day and much more during the current tourist season.
The American we met all agreed that beautiful Damascus this spring in a great place to be.
The US and its allies, despite good/bad cop statements from President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton, appear to agree with Russia and China that the Assad regime should be pressured to make broad reforms and end corruption but that regimes change is unwarranted, illegal and extremely ill advised.
 The Assad government appears to have weathered the current storm.
Many of the demands from outside of Syria for reforms are the same ones that are heard from Baath party officials, and Ministers of the Assad government and from Syrian citizens in many walks of life including students at the Law and Medical colleges in central Damascus.
Several high rankling Syrians, particularly in the offices that work in press, printing, publishing and distribution of government information cogently explained that President Assad himself is leading the fight within the regime for meaningful change and that a majority of the population supports him and want to help change Syria for the better.
Talking with a range of Syrian citizens, one senses a general willingness to believe their President and certain of his advisers and to allow the regime a little more time to make good on its promises.
Syrian Information Minister Adnan Mahmud declared on 5.13.11 that “the coming days will witness a comprehensive national dialogue in various Syrian provinces. The Syrian cabinet is currently preparing to execute a “comprehensive program of political, economic and social reform to serve the people’s interest,” he said in a press conference, according to the official Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA).
“In light of the situation that has erupted in some provinces due to armed groups’ killing citizens, terrorizing residents and burning public and private property… army, police and security units have been sent to hunt down those carrying weapons.”
Mahmud also said that the besieged protest epicenter Daraa is not in need of any kind of supplies, adding that “we notified the UN that there is no need for any aid in Daraa.”
Bashar Assad’s regime will likely survive despite some foreign efforts to capitalize on domestic Syrian problems.
One editor of a major Syrian newspaper expressed sentiments that one hears from other Syrian officials and citizens alike:  “We know we must change and please believe me when I say we want change more than you know. We have made mistakes. If our brothers and sisters who are overwhelmingly Syrian patriots will work with us and not turn to anarchy we can bring the change that all of us demand without more delay.”

http://www.opinion-maker.org/2011/05/syria-tide-turns-in-favour-of-assad/
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on May 19, 2011, 01:25:34 PM
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Zionist Puppet Threatens Syria
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In his much anticipated Middle East speech, President Barack Obama gave Syrian President Bashar al-Assad two choices: Lead the transition toward democracy, or "get out of the way."

"The Syrian people have shown their courage in demanding a transition to democracy," Obama said Thursday at the State Department."

Now, "the Syrian government must stop shooting demonstrators and allow peaceful protests; release political prisoners and stop unjust arrests; allow human rights monitors  to have access to cities like Dara'a; and start a serious dialogue to advance a democratic transition. Otherwise, President Assad and his regime will continue to be challenged from within and isolated abroad."

The president's speech comes one day after his administration took the first steps toward the promised isolation from abroad by imposing financial sanctions on Assad and six of his government's top officials, freezing all U.S. properties owned by them.

This, he said in his May 18 executive order, is an effort to quell the "continuous escalation of violence against the people of Syria."

Obama gave further justification for the sanctions, saying, "The Government of Syria constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States." It also accuses Assad and his six top officials of human rights abuses. Abuses, they say, that have left hundreds of civilians dead and put thousands behind bars.

Yesterday's sanctions were the second in three weeks, and the first to single out Assad by name.

Syria was quick to condemn the U.S. sanctions, saying it is just "one in a series of sanctions imposed by the U.S. administration against the Syrian people as part of U.S. regional policies serving Israel," the official Syrian Arab News Agency reported Thursday, quoting an unnamed official source.

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http://m.ibtimes.com/middle-east-syria-sanctions-democracy-president-obama-president-bashar-al-assad-148591.html (http://m.ibtimes.com/middle-east-syria-sanctions-democracy-president-obama-president-bashar-al-assad-148591.html)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on May 19, 2011, 07:56:58 PM
Why has Uncle Samuel waited so long to put sanctions on Syria?  Haven't we been told for decades that Syria is a bunch of scumbag terrorists & haters not to mention recent allegations that they are pursuing The Bomb?  I'm not just being sarcastic, I find it strange that with the GWOT & continuing massive military aid to Israel that they have seemingly been forbidden for decades to use their supposed military might to conquer new areas of Eretz Israel. 

The answer is that (Joo) London's plan was always to keep Israel small & vulnerable.  Yeah Tel Aviv has plenty of nukes but no permission to use them.  Folks who think that the Israeli lobby controls all are simple-minded.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on May 19, 2011, 08:40:12 PM
It sounds like the Jews told Obama to take Syria's govt. out first, and then we'll talk about Palestine.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: thomaspain on May 19, 2011, 09:13:20 PM
Yeah Tel Aviv has plenty of nukes but no permission to use them.

   I have my doubts about Israel's Jewish Palestine's nuclear capabilities. They lied about having the Atomic Bomb in 1948. Why should we believe that they have given up lying. Nuclear weaponry is very expensive. America has given money to Jewish Palestine to build the weapons. What makes anyone think that they have spent the money on weaponry rather than stealing it. They have their ultra-secret complex at Dimona, but it has never been inspected or verified. They put on a charade about one of their people exposing the system in order to give the lie credibility. They have even threatened the World with the threat of their Samson plan. They say that if the Western World abandons them to the Arabs, they will take the World down with them using their Nuclear Missiles.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on May 19, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
It sounds like the Jews told Obama to take Syria's govt. out first, and then we'll talk about Palestine.

There will be no taking out of Syria.  They have played their role well for decades like Saudis & Jordanians.  Israel is even scared of messing with Lebanon now.  Israeli kids are spoiled, the country has no appetite for big wars.  Zios are instead enjoying evicting a few-thousand Palis & stealing the land.  BTW I noticed a new thing just now where Wiki uses JavaScript for links instead of regular html.  Web browser scripts are used by legions of net scammers; nice that Wiki deliberately screws folks who disallow scripts.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: thomaspain on May 19, 2011, 09:26:39 PM
BTW I noticed a new thing just now where Wiki uses JavaScript for links instead of regular html.  Web browser scripts are used by legions of net scammers; nice that Wiki deliberately screws folks who disallow scripts.

   Are you suspecting collusion. Does it smell like lox? There is no cash profit in taking down dissenting websites. It is just ideological warfare. A Jew does not feel fulfilled as a real Jew unless he has a business. To them, the Internet is a cash-cow just waiting to be milked.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: pope daniel on May 20, 2011, 12:16:08 AM
Yes, Allah, the burning bush deity of Moses and Abraham is Satan. Islam is a large branch of Freemasonry, just like Protestantism. In Armageddon, the Masonic Protestants will battle the Masonic Mulslims to determine who is the better burning-bush fire worshipper.

Pope Daniel who knows Christ is God looks onto this madness and shrugs.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on May 20, 2011, 05:38:57 AM
Syrian snipers (Nee' Jewish mercenaries) shot 6 people   ...... Israel shot 360, killing 15, at the border fence four days ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grussb7GBI8&feature=player_embedded
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on May 20, 2011, 06:50:51 AM
Why has Uncle Samuel waited so long to put sanctions on Syria?  Haven't we been told for decades that Syria is a bunch of scumbag terrorists & haters not to mention recent allegations that they are pursuing The Bomb?  I'm not just being sarcastic, I find it strange that with the GWOT & continuing massive military aid to Israel that they have seemingly been forbidden for decades to use their supposed military might to conquer new areas of Eretz Israel. 

The answer is that (Joo) London's plan was always to keep Israel small & vulnerable.  Yeah Tel Aviv has plenty of nukes but no permission to use them.  Folks who think that the Israeli lobby controls all are simple-minded.

You make good points.

Number one, the Russians have a naval base in Alleppo, their only base on the Mediterranean.
Any messing with Syria will lead to problems, with wider ramifications...Russia has been co-operating with the US & EU over sanctions with Iran, which is allied with Syria...However, going after Syria will open a new can of worms with the Russians.

Number two, Israel is very divided over Syria...The realists there understand that although Israel is technically still at war with Syria, there has been peace for over 30+ years...Peace means no Syrian tanks rolling into the Golan heights, and no missiles fired on Tel Aviv/Haifa.
The extremists Jews in Israel may think they can play with fire, but they would have a big surprise coming if they decided to play.

Number three, any Israeli use of nukes would mean the end of the Jewish state...Finito...Some Jews may want to commit suicide, and it would ne messy, but it would be the end.

Number four, Obama still lick the neo-con ass, who get him to spout such propaganda...This is my big problem with the puppet...He knows they will play blackmail card and get him impeached for fraudulent birth certificate and not being born in US, so he goes along.

Number five, brain dead US public still lap up bulls**t spewed by Zionist puppet media, i.e. 'Israeli, America's ally, blah, blah...'...When will journalists show some courage and tell the truth?...Answer is, they worship money, love American Express credit card, jet set journalistic conferences, nice lifestyle where they globe trot, have expensive home in NY, send kids to private school without Jigs to worry about...All corrupt dogs, but truth is unstoppable.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: GovernmentMule on May 20, 2011, 03:50:06 PM

Syria was quick to condemn the U.S. sanctions, saying it is just "one in a series of sanctions imposed by the U.S. administration against the Syrian people as part of U.S. regional policies serving Israel," the official Syrian Arab News Agency reported Thursday, quoting an unnamed official source.

See, this proves they are terrorists!
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on May 21, 2011, 06:54:21 PM

Security forces kill child and 33 protesters Damascus May 22, 2011
 
SYRIAN security forces shot dead at least 34 people, including a child, as pro-democracy protests swept the country, activists say.

The UN refugee agency and rights watchdog Human Rights Watch expressed concern about an influx of Syrians who have fled to neighbouring Lebanon to escape the violence.

An activist in the city of Homs said security services stormed a hospital and carried away several wounded people along with the body of a victim.


President Bashar al-Assad's government blames the violence on ''armed terrorist gangs'' backed by Islamists and foreign agitators.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/security-forces-kill-child-and-33-protesters-20110521-1exvu.html#ixzz1N3e9nusg
 
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on May 21, 2011, 07:00:03 PM

This ambush has the stench of the Jew

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DAMASCUS: An armed gang shot dead 10 Syrian civilian workers on their way back from Lebanon in a bus ambush near the city of Homs Sunday, the official state news agency said, as Damascus intensified a bloody crackdown on protests.

The agency quoted a doctor at a hospital in Homs, where tank backed army units earlier stormed three districts to crush pro-democracy demonstrations, as saying the bodies bore the mark of bullets shot at close range into the head, chest stomach.

The authorities have blamed armed gangs backed by foreign powers  for the violence during Syria’s seven week uprising against the authoritarian rule of President Bashar Assad.



Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2011/May-09/Gunmen-kill-10-Syrian-workers-on-way-back-from-Lebanon-SANA.ashx#ixzz1N3etHjZB
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Ajax on May 21, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
This ambush has the stench of the Jew

makes sense, it's what they do
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on May 21, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
This ambush has the stench of the Jew

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DAMASCUS: An armed gang shot dead 10 Syrian civilian workers on their way back from Lebanon in a bus ambush near the city of Homs Sunday, the official state news agency said, as Damascus intensified a bloody crackdown on protests.

The agency quoted a doctor at a hospital in Homs, where tank backed army units earlier stormed three districts to crush pro-democracy demonstrations, as saying the bodies bore the mark of bullets shot at close range into the head, chest stomach.

The authorities have blamed armed gangs backed by foreign powers  for the violence during Syria’s seven week uprising against the authoritarian rule of President Bashar Assad.



Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2011/May-09/Gunmen-kill-10-Syrian-workers-on-way-back-from-Lebanon-SANA.ashx#ixzz1N3etHjZB
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)

The fuk'n Jews are going after Syria. I knew a Jewess a few years ago who worked for the UN, she had made several trips to Syria. I could see it coming then. There really is a lot of groundwork done years ahead of the time before they strike for the kill. Might not work with Syria though cause Jews are fighting Muslims everywhere from Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. The only thing they might succeed in is making the US broke and a 3rd world country.

I can't wait for PM Netanyahu's address to Congress. I wonder which countries he'll want us to invade this time?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on May 22, 2011, 05:53:45 AM
Quote
I can't wait for PM Netanyahu's address to Congress. I wonder which countries he'll want us to invade this time?

Most animals kill to eat or self defense. Jews kill for sport. Even the Black Mamba only kills when cornered and threatened.

Jews want Iran's oil
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on May 27, 2011, 09:47:58 AM
Eight protesters killed in Syria clashes

Fri May 27, 2011 2:55PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/181999.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/181999.html)

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A file photo shows Syrian protesters staging a demonstration near the capital, Damascus.

At least eight people have been killed in a new round of clashes that erupted in Syria, opposition activists say.

Activists said at least three people were killed on Friday when security forces opened fire on protesters near the capital Damascus and also in the south, AFP reported.

"We have three people killed in the southern town of Dael, three others in the Damascus suburb of Qatana, one in the suburb of Zabadani," said Rami Abdel Rahman, who heads the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Another protester was also killed in Jableh, located near the coastal city of Latakia, he added.

The Friday deaths come as Syrian protesters continue staging demonstrations, demanding reforms.

Syria has witnessed months of unrest that have left hundreds people dead.

The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings.

However, the government blames armed gangs for the deadly violence, saying that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on May 28, 2011, 06:20:45 PM
'Lebanon Salafis behind Syria unrest'

Sat May 28, 2011 11:47PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/182208.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/182208.html)

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A file photo shows Salafi armed men loyal to al-Mustaqbal party in northern Lebanon


Informed sources in Lebanon blame Salafi extremists and elements associated with the country's al-Mustaqbal party for direct involvement in the recent unrest in Syria.

The Lebanese sources say former Mustaqbal MP Mustafa Hashem has rented a large number of gas stations in the northern border region of Wadi Khaled, where the nomad residents on both the Lebanese and Syrian sides of the frontier are engaged in widespread smuggling.

This would bring Hashem cheap oil that smugglers steal from the pipelines stretching from the Homs refinery to the one in Baniyas and later put him in close contact with traffickers.

An attempt by Syria to stem the flow of smuggled oil drove the perpetrators into the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli. Some of the perpetrators were later hired as bodyguards for radical Salafi leaders, who are mostly from the Syrian city of Talkalakh.

The Lebanese army also launched a similar campaigned against the traffickers and arrested a head of a village in Wali Khaled, who was soon released thanks to the political unrest in Lebanon.

The elements in question stepped up their activity under a religious disguise.

According to the sources, the Salafis in northern Lebanon are led by Mustaqbal lawmaker Khaled al-Daher and his brother Rabi, who are considered as the link between the US-backed Mustaqbal party and the Salafis scattered in the region spanning Tripoli and Sunni majority regions in Syria.

The Lebanese Salafi movement is also accused of direct involvement in an attack on Syrian border security station in al-Hajana and the kidnapping of three people from the post.

Moreover, the extremists have repeatedly attempted to spark border tensions between Lebanese and Syria by opening fire on the Syrian army personnel stationed near the border, and thus drawing backfire to forge a border clash.

The Lebanese sources blame a retired general in charge of Mustaqbal's maintenance and leaders of al-Qaeda-linked Fatah al-Islam militia for distributing arms and cell phone lines among rioters in northern Syria.

Major Salafi clerics in north Lebanon have, meanwhile, engaged in providing refuge to terrorists operating in Syria, and issuing provocative decrees. Salafi mosques in the region are reportedly being used as weapons storage.

The Lebanese army has significantly stemmed the outflow of arms to Syria by identifying and arresting some of the main trafficker elements, but blood links and political affiliations across the border has left them short of putting a halt to the transactions.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on May 30, 2011, 10:29:22 AM
Syria slams West over meddling

Mon May 30, 2011 5:59PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/182466.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/182466.html)

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Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Miqdad

A top Syrian official has accused Britain, France and the US of interfering in Syria's internal affairs in a bid to bring the country back to the colonial era.

Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Miqdad said on Monday that Western powers are trying to dominate Syria with the support of the United Nations Security Council.

The Syrian official also denounced the Western countries' efforts in the UN Security Council to condemn Syria's response to the current unrest in the country, Syria's official news agency, SANA, reported.

"It is about imposing hegemony on Syria and using the United Nations as a way of re-establishing colonialism and to justify interference," Miqdad said in Beijing during talks with his Chinese counterpart, adding that the recent unrest in Syria was "an attack on Syria that is aimed at destabilizing and weakening the country."

He also accused "extremist groups with foreign backing of spreading violence, terrorism and destruction... and murdering innocent Syrian citizens."

Britain, France, Germany and Portugal believe they could get nine votes to pass a UNSC resolution against Syria but still fear a veto by China or Russia, two of the five permanent members who can block any resolution, diplomats said.

Since the beginning of unrest in Syria in mid-March, hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed.

The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings. But the government blames armed gangs for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Damascus has announced the arrest of several members of armed terrorist groups, saying that they have confessed to receiving weapons and money from foreign organizations to kill civilians and security forces in a bid to cause chaos in the country.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice.

Meanwhile, three more people were killed and many others wounded in a new round of clashes in the Syrian city of Homs on Monday, opposition activists said.

Syrian rights activists say they were killed by Syrian security forces in the town of Tablisah. The killings have brought to 14 the number of people killed in Tablisah.

The Syrian military has confirmed that its troops clashed with what it called terrorists in the region. It says several Syrian troops were also killed in the fighting.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: thomaspain on May 30, 2011, 04:48:08 PM
Syrian rights activists say they were killed by Syrian security forces in the town of Tablisah. The killings have brought to 14 the number of people killed in Tablisah.

   Oh, the horror of it!

  But the U.S. has to keep quiet about it lest we be reminded of our retaliation against our REBELS. It is easily more than 14.

   "LET HIM WHO IS WITHOUT SIN, CAST THE FIRST STONE".
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on May 31, 2011, 04:06:01 PM
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SUMMARY:  ---Mysterious kidnappers (nee Jews) sadistically kill a 13 yr old, and say elite Syrian troops did it




Torture of the child martyr: 'Rebel', 13, shot, kneecapped and had genitals removed  before being killed by Syria's sadistic regime   
By Liz Hazelton

 Devotedly washed and sprinkled with rose petals, Hamza Ali al-Khateeb lies prepared for burial.
But the rituals of death cannot wipe away the horrific injuries that have mutilated his body almost beyond recognition.
Nor do they blot out that Hamza - riddled with bullets, kneecapped and with neck broken and penis hacked off  - has the rounded cheeks and gentle face of a child.
 The child martyr: Hamza Ali al-Khateeb, 13, was tortured to death by Syrian security forces
At 13, he is one of the youngest known victims of Syria's ruthless crackdown on protesters who have tried to overthrow the government of  President Bashar al-Assad.
The teenager's family were told not to speak of his terrible fate. But in a pitiful act of defiance, they posted the footage of his corpse online.
The action led to his father being arrested last week. His whereabouts are unknown.
Posted on YouTube, the video is accompanied by a chilling commentary which details the worst of Hamza's dreadful wounds.


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An unseen attendant tenderly shifts the scarred limbs and head so that the viewer can see each injury, including two bullets which were fired through each arm and then entered his chest.

'Look at the evidence of his torture,' the narrator urges. 'Take a look at the bruises on his face and his neck that was broken. Take a look at the bruises on his right legs
'In addition there is worse. They did not satisfy themselves with all the torturing so they cut off his genitals.'
At this point, the video is censored as the wounds are too horrific to show.

 Brutal: In this still from the film made by his family, bullet wounds, burns and bruising can be seen on Hamza's body
 Hero of the revolution: Hamza's death has prompted a renewed surge of support for the rebellion
Hamza was picked up by security forces at a protest in Jiza, a village in the rebel province of Dar'a in Syria on April 29.
For an agonising month, his desperate family waited for him to go home, terrified of what had become of him.
And when his broken body was finally returned, the injuries which disfigured almost every part of his flesh told the horrific story that he could not.
Amid the mass of cigarette burns, the bullet wounds and bruises, it is impossible to know what finally killed him.
But it is perhaps unsuprising that Hamza, with his childish features and innocent smile, has become the most potent symbol of Syria's uprising.
Thousands of protesters took to the country's bloodied streets this weekend chanting his name.
Children demonstrated in Damascas while people clambered on the roofs in Aleppo to mark the 'Day of Hamza'.
In the city of Hama, 116 miles from the capital, a huge crowd occupied the central square clutching copes of his photographs in their hands.

 The protests go on: Hundreds take to the streets in a day of rage in Talbiseh, in the central province of Homs
 Storm force: This image shows protesters hurling stones at dozens of soldiers in Banias, on the Mediterranean coast
The video footage of his mutilated body posted online - and broadcast on Al Jazeera - has further fuelled the anger of Syria's protesters.
Facebook group 'We are all Hamza Ali al-Khateeb, the Child Martyr' has attracted 58,000 people while the English version has 3,000 members.
Radwan Ziadeh, an exiled human rights activist told the Washington Post the boy had already become a symbol of the Syrian revolution.
'(His death) is the sign of the sadism of the Assad regime and its security forces,' he said.
'Torture is usual in Syria. It’s not something new or strange. What is special about Hamza is that he was only 13 years old. He really is a child.'
The Syrian uprisnig against President Bashar al-Assad is now entering its seventh week.
Foreign journalists are banned from entering the country and the rebellion has been conducted amid a media blackout.
But stories of the brutality of Assad's troops have still trickled out indicating that protests have been ruthlessly suppressed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392684/Hamza-child-martyr-tortured-death-Syrian-soldiers.html?ITO=1490
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on May 31, 2011, 04:21:47 PM
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Hundreds of children are marching in Syria  ...... ages 3 to 11 yrs old
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Post by: jacob gold on June 02, 2011, 08:28:37 AM
Even Tots Are Protesting In Syria

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I fear that the Syrian army will shoot and rape the children!!!

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Wouldn't The Jews Love A Truck Bomb At A Toddler's March


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Post by: jacob gold on June 02, 2011, 08:30:22 AM
OK OK  ..... Kids can do a lot ...... look at the 7 yr old wolf girl of Auschwitz
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 02, 2011, 08:49:21 AM
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Wow!!!  7 year old kids organize a protest.

I smell Jew bullsh*t
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Post by: wag on June 02, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
Who will protect these children?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 02, 2011, 12:14:34 PM
Who will protect these children?


Syria's president will shoot them, so we must have NATO invade.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on June 02, 2011, 03:09:11 PM

This picture is from Greece. The shield in the background says police in Greek(ASTYNOMIA) above POLICE in English.

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Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: wag on June 02, 2011, 05:44:55 PM

Syria's president will shoot them, so we must have NATO invade.

Where it's clear that jews are setting up false flag atrocities, innocents will be brutally murdered.  If you're a parent in Syria, don't let your kids out of sight until this dies down.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: thomaspain on June 02, 2011, 06:26:58 PM

Syria's president will shoot them, so we must have NATO invade.

   NATO may be insufficient. We should send in the Israeli Foreign Legion(IE. American Army). There are at least 14 million of them to be killed liberated.


Support our troops
bring the
Israeli Foreign Legion
home!
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 03, 2011, 05:41:23 AM
Quote
If you're a parent in Syria, don't let your kids out of sight until this dies down.


Ain't that thetruth
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 03, 2011, 07:18:13 PM
Over 30 people killed in Syria

Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:3PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/183080.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/183080.html)

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Opposition activists in Syria say at least 34 people have been killed in a new round of clashes in the central city of Hama.

Hundreds of others were also wounded after shots were fired during pro-reform protesters in the city on Friday.

Activists and opposition groups say tens of thousands of protesters poured into the streets in Hama following the Friday Prayers to demand reforms.

Syria's state television said security forces opened fire after armed men used the presence of the crowds to clash with the security forces and attack and set fire to public buildings, including the city courthouse.

Protest rallies have also been reported in other Syrian cities, including the capital, Damascus, Homs, and Deraa.

Since the beginning of pro-reform protests in Syria in mid-March, hundreds of people, including security forces, have lost their lives.

The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings but, the government blames armed gangs for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Damascus has announced the arrest of several members of armed terrorist groups, saying that they have confessed to receiving weapons and money from foreign organizations to kill civilians and security forces in a bid to cause chaos in the country.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on June 06, 2011, 10:21:30 AM
Gangs attack Syrian troops, kill 120

Mon Jun 6, 2011 5:27PM
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Syrian military officials say scores of security forces have been killed in clashes with armed groups across the country.

At least 120 Syrian forces have been killed after armed groups attacked security forces in northwestern town of Jisr al-Shughour, state TV reported.

According to the state TV, 82 of them were killed after armed groups attacked city's security center on Monday. Some 28 police and security forces personnel were targeted "on their way to rescue citizens being terrorized" by armed gangs.

Others died in clashes throughout the town.

"The armed groups are committing a veritable massacre. They have mutilated bodies and thrown others into the Assi river," the broadcaster said adding that more than 200 policemen and security forces were also wounded during the clashes.

State TV said hundreds of armed gunmen had taken over parts of Jisr al-Shughour and torched several government buildings.

"The security forces have managed to end a blockade over one of the neighbourhoods (in Jisr al-Shughour) that was seized by the gunmen for a while and are now battling them to end the blockade on the other neighbourhoods," it said.

The TV also said that the city's residents are fleeing their homes, seeking safety at police and security stations, adding that Jisr al-Shughour residents have urged the army to intervene rapidly to end the violence.

Syrian officials say the armed groups are hiding in houses and firing at soldiers and civilians alike, using residents as human shields.

Since the beginning of unrest in Syria in mid-March, hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed.

The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings. But, the government blames armed gangs for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Damascus has announced the arrest of several members of armed terrorist groups, saying that they have confessed to receiving weapons and money from foreign organizations to kill civilians and security forces in a bid to cause chaos in the country.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 06, 2011, 11:32:16 AM
Why would Syria kill their own citizens for a street protest

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SUMMARY:  ---- Mysterious snipers shoot protestors, and mysterious gangs/mercenaries are killing Syian police.  just another jew black ops






ARTICLECAIRO — Syria’s state news agency reported Monday that “armed gangs” had killed 120 police, security personnel and civilians in multiple attacks in a northwestern town, and that residents were “pleading” for the army to intervene. The reports could not be independently verified, but regardless of whether the numbers are inflated, they appear likely to presage an even harsher crackdown on antigovernment protesters.

 The reported number of dead ballooned over the course of the day — from 28 to 40 to 80 security, then another 40 civilians — as state media described escalating violence in the town of Jisr al-Shughour by the unspecified armed fighters, including an ambush of police, the bombing of a post office and gunfire from rooftops.

By the end of the day, state media said police and security forces were clashing with hundreds of armed men who had taken control of some areas of the town. But the state broadcaster showed no images from the town, despite scrolling text on Syrian television that spoke of a “massacre.”

Protesters could not be immediately reached in the area, but opposition activists repudiated any suggestion that antigovernment protesters had mounted such attacks. “I have seen no evidence of organized violence by protesters against the regime,” said Wissam Tarif, a Syrian human rights activist currently outside the country. “Protesters do not have weapons they could even use against tanks and helicopters, which the regime is using.”

Syria has been gripped by a popular uprising against four decades of iron-fisted rule by the Assad family since mid-March, but the government has blamed the unrest on what it calls Islamic extremists and foreign conspirators bent on destroying the country and its fragile balance of ethnic groups and religious denominations. However, even supporters of the government have said the unrest in Syria is far too widespread to validate the official explanation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/world/middleeast/07syria.html


Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on June 06, 2011, 09:18:38 PM
Why would Syria kill their own citizens for a street protest
Yeah, heh, crazy Ayrabs don't know of any method other than "force".   >:(  I read the book, Hostage to Khomeini which described BBC "reporters" broadcasting from small towns in Iran & acting as cheerleaders/directors for the "revolutionaries".  So supposedly Syria has a huge police state but can't afford a Western-style anti-riot contingent.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 07, 2011, 07:03:30 AM
That entire mideast revolt is a jew black op  ..... something is in the wind
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 08, 2011, 09:13:54 AM
'Syria armed groups flee to Turkey'

Wed Jun 8, 2011 4:54PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/183804.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/183804.html)

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Turkish Ambulances give medical attention to Syrians on the Turkish side of the border with Syria, near the Turkish village of Guvecci, June 8, 2011.

The terrorist groups behind days of deadly clashes in a northwestern Syrian town have escaped to Turkey, reports say.

Hundreds of Syrian civilians have also crossed the northern border into Turkey to escape violence in the town of Jisr al-Shughour after Ankara announced that its doors are open to those seeking refuge.

So far, hundreds of Syrians have crossed the border and Turkish ambulances have moved into Syria, transferring those injured in the unrest to the other side of the border.

At least 120 Syrian soldiers were killed after armed groups attacked police and security stations in the town on Monday. Some 200 others were also injured in the clashes.

Dozens of civilians were also killed and injured during the exchange of fire. Syrian officials said the armed groups were hiding in houses and firing at soldiers and civilians alike, using residents as human shields.

According to the state TV, armed groups also took over parts of Jisr al-Shughour and torched several government buildings.

The Syrian government says the weapons used during clashes in the northwestern town of Jisr al-Shughour were smuggled into the country from Turkey.

The head of the US Central Intelligence Agency has recently visited borders between Syria and Turkey in a secret visit to Turkey. The United States and some regional countries support civil war in Syria.

Damascus says it has sent troops to the crisis-hit town to quell the disturbances.

Syrian Interior Minister Ibrahim Shaar said, "We will deal strongly and decisively, and according to the law, and we will not be silent about any armed attack that targets the security of the state and its citizens."

Since the beginning of unrest in Syria in mid-March, hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed.

The shadowy opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings. But, the government blames armed gangs for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on June 08, 2011, 09:15:11 PM
That entire mideast revolt is a jew black op  ..... something is in the wind

Yeah there is ample evidence of Soros-type NGOs involved but OTOH folks there have legitimate grievances.  Seems like the Zio-banksters are taking advantage of this to replace Arab strongmen with their lackeys.  The "new" Egypt gov't quickly decided to take a new IMF loan.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 09, 2011, 08:42:54 AM
A ...... All the Arabs unite

B...... They franchise "Mohammed's Petroleum"  .... gas station chain in US

C...... They sell gas at $2.99 a gallon

Instantly they go from terrorists to heroes
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 09, 2011, 10:48:26 AM
West's anti-Syrian bid foiled at UNSC

Thu Jun 9, 2011 1:16PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/183916.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/183916.html)

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The United Nations Security Council (file photo)

Western powers have failed in their attempts to push through a UN Security Council (UNSC) resolution against Syria over an alleged crackdown on its opposition.

During a UNSC meeting, the US-sponsored draft was met with intense opposition by Russia and China, which maintained that they were unwilling to interfere in “internal state matters.”

Expressing discontent with the UNSC meeting in which the draft was proposed, Russia's UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said that his country maintained its earlier stance against the resolution, IRNA reported.

Brazil, India, South Africa and Lebanon also opposed the resolution, leaving the UNSC meeting soon after it began.

The Security Council meeting was held to discuss a proposed draft jointly submitted by the United States, France, and Britain to adopt as a resolution against Syria.

Hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed since the beginning of unrests in Syria in mid-March.

The shadowy opposition accuses Syrian security forces of being behind the killings. However, the Damascus government blames armed gangs for the unprecedented violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice, following the arrest of several members of armed terrorist groups involved in inciting the unrests. The detainees have confessed to receiving weapons and money from foreign organizations in order to kill Syrian civilians and security forces and provoke chaos in the country.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 09, 2011, 11:30:58 AM
IAEA votes to report Syria to UN

Thu Jun 9, 2011 6:57PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/183969.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/183969.html)

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IAEA's logo

Amid a whole host of abstentions and 'no' votes by Russia and China, the UN nuclear regulator votes to report Syria to the world body as what it describes as a former harborer of an undeclared nuclear reactor.

The motion was approved by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)'s board of governors in New York on Thursday with 17 members endorsing the move and 11 holding back their vote, AFP reported.

The body will therefore refer Syria to the UN Security Council over allegations that it built a nuclear reactor that was destroyed in 2007 by Israeli bombs.

The vote came a few days after IAEA's Director General Yukiya Amano slammed the Israeli regime for the arbitrary attack on what Tel Aviv had called 'a Syrian nuclear facility.'

Amano expressed regret that the bombing had been carried out "without the agency having been given an opportunity to perform its verification role."

In September 2007, at least four Israeli fighter planes crossed into the Syrian airspace and launched an attack on what turned out to be a research center that belonged to the regional grouping of the Arab League in the city of Deir ez-Zor in the northeast of the country.

The assault caused a significant rise in tension between the two sides, which are technically at war due to Tel Aviv's 1967 occupation and annexation of the Golan Heights in southwestern Syria.

"Rather than force being used, the case should have been reported to the IAEA," Amano had said.

Damascus denies harboring a nuclear weapons program. It opened up the attacked site to IAEA inspectors in 2008 and has pledged to fully cooperate with the agency regarding the issue.

Tel Aviv has neither confirmed nor denied bombing the site. Former US President George W. Bush has, however, written in his memoire, published last year, that the attack took place after he resisted former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's request for Washington to undertake the strike.

The developments come amid Tel Aviv's continued refusal to declare its nuclear arsenal and its insistence on not joining the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

Since 1958, when Tel Aviv began building its Dimona plutonium- and uranium-processing facility in the Negev desert in southern Israel, it has secretly manufactured numerous nuclear warheads, thus becoming the sole owner of such weapons in the Middle East.

Former US President Jimmy Carter has attested to the existence of the arsenal, which he has said includes between 200 to 300 nuclear warheads.

Israel has, however, neither confirmed nor denied possessing nuclear arms under a deliberate policy of 'nuclear ambiguity.'

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on June 09, 2011, 02:02:41 PM

Quote
During a UNSC meeting, the US-sponsored draft was met with intense opposition by Russia and China, which maintained that they were unwilling to interfere in “internal state matters.”

Expressing discontent with the UNSC meeting in which the draft was proposed, Russia's UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said that his country maintained its earlier stance against the resolution, IRNA reported.

Brazil, India, South Africa and Lebanon also opposed the resolution, leaving the UNSC meeting soon after it began.

When will these countries join the "International Community" and stop supporting terrorism?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 09, 2011, 03:09:29 PM
When will these countries join the "International Community" and stop supporting terrorism?

Yeah really. What is wrong with them? Don't they trust our Fearless Minion?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on June 09, 2011, 07:00:08 PM
A ...... All the Arabs unite

B...... They franchise "Mohammed's Petroleum"  .... gas station chain in US

C...... They sell gas at $2.99 a gallon

Instantly they go from terrorists to heroes

Good idea, we just have to get rid of the Saudi (cryto?) crooks first, but Arab Spring seems to leave SA untouched.  LaRouche claims that the Saudi oil embargoes were a deal hatched in partnership with the City of London to jack up oil prices & more esp create the Euro-dollar monster.  Back then I had a landlady from London who described how the Saudi oligarchs were buying real-estate willy-nilly in London & causing skyrocketing housing costs.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: laconas on June 09, 2011, 10:02:32 PM

Seems the Russians are stepping up to plate in the information arena and at the UN with the no vote regarding Syria. If this continues, RT net broadcasts should be banned within the year.



Libyan teen tries to take own life to escape NATO bombs

Published: 10 June, 2011, 08:49

Salma Abubaker Shtoot has been within a hair’s breadth of death
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TRENDS: Libya's Odyssey Dawn

TAGS: Children, Military, Politics, Cary Johnston, Maria Finoshina, Opposition, Libya, War

The conflict in Libya has no end in sight, as NATO intensifies airstrikes and increases what it calls “efforts to protect people.” It is those “efforts” that made a Libyan teenager choose death over life in a war-torn country.

NATO has frequently claimed success in the military operation supposed to “protect civilians”. But the Libyan government has repeatedly protested that innocent civilians have been among the dead. Gaddafi's government claims more civilian deaths have been caused by coalition aggression – over 30 this week alone.

The claims have not been independently verified, but one thing is clear – since March 19 the life of ordinary Libyans has changed forever.

Salma Abubaker Shtoot has been within a hair’s breadth of death. But doctors have performed a near-miracle and the young girl is back home with her family.

The 13-year-old took her mother’s pills to kill herself.She says: “If someone wants to kill me – I’d better do it myself.”

But who wants to kill the teenager?

Salma’s native city, Tripoli, has been under constant bombardment by NATO forces for three months. One of NATO’s bombs, supposed to target Gaddafi’s military arsenal, actually landed in the district where her family lives. It did not destroy the colonel’s compound but it almost wiped out a family.

Day and night, bombs have been falling on the city with a population of around a million. No- one can ever say when or where the next one will land. This week, in the most intensive air raid yet, there have been 60 NATO airstrikes in just ten hours.

Salma’s mother, Rahima Suan, will never forget the day when her daughter preferred death to this new way of life.

“My girl told me before that she thought death is a good thing. When I entered her room that day, she was lying on the floor. There was smoke everywhere, I could hardly see what happened but I realized immediately – something terrible happened. … This is not fair. They told us they want a no-fly zone, they never said they were going to bomb us. They promised to protect us, but instead they scare us,” she said.

Abubaker Ibrahim Shtoot is more precise when talking about who “they” are.

“The world no longer needs NATO!” he said. “The Second World War was over a long time ago, and we try to live our lives, while NATO always do wars and always intervene in other countries’ issues. We are tired of wars, our patience is running out. Let us just live our life.”

NATO has just prolonged its operation in Libya until September and for the people in Tripoli it means months more terror from the skies.

http://rt.com/news/libyan-teen-suicide-attempt/
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Chauncey G on June 10, 2011, 05:18:15 AM
Seems the Russians are stepping up to plate in the information arena and at the UN with the no vote regarding Syria. If this continues, RT net broadcasts should be banned within the year.


If this goes on much longer Russia and China might enforce a no fly zone over Libya.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 10, 2011, 07:05:17 PM
'32 protesters killed in Syria'

Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:17PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184111.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184111.html)

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Syrian anti-government protesters in the city of Homs (file photo)

Syrian human rights activists say security forces have opened fire on anti-government demonstrators in several cities, killing at least 32 people.

The activists said half of the deaths occurred in the north of the country on Friday as demonstrations were held in most sections of the country, AP reported.

The Local Coordination Committees, a group that documents anti-government protests in Syria, said that 15 people were killed in the northwestern province of Idlib.

The group said many of the casualties occurred when Syrian tanks shelled Maaret al-Numan, a town in Idlib.

Syria's state-run television said unidentified gunmen opened fire on police stations in Maaret al-Numan, killing a number of security officials.

The Syrian TV report added that unidentified gunmen also killed a number of security forces in Sisr al-Shughour. It did not give any specific number of casualties for either incident.

Protesters also took to the streets in Damascus, the southwestern city of Dara'a, and the western city of Homs.

Demonstrations were also held in the northern city of Aleppo, the central city of Hama, and Bukamal in the east.

Syria has witnessed huge demonstrations over the past few weeks.

The opposition says the security forces are behind the violence, but the Syrian government says armed thugs backed by foreign powers are the culprits.

LW - can't be more than a hundred people in that 'crowd'. All men, no women or children. Hmmmm....
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 13, 2011, 09:01:18 PM
'US, Israel behind unrest in Syria'

Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:45PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184522.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184522.html)

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Scores of security forces have reportedly been killed in clashes with armed groups across Syria.

The US and Israel have so far carried out a number of plots in Syria to incite unrest, create insecurity and spark a civil war in the Arab nation.

At the outset, the White House and the Tel Aviv regime provoked anti-government protests in Syria's southern city of Daraa near the border with Jordan.

There is now clear evidence that weapons, cell phones and terrorists from Jordan were transferred into the city to further complicate the situation on the ground, analysts say.

The Syrian army began withdrawing its forces from Daraa in early May after arresting scores of heavily-armed people and confiscating large amounts of sophisticated weapons and ammunition.

The US and Israel then sparked revolts in the cities of Baniyas, located on Syria's Mediterranean coast, and Talkalakh near the Lebanese border.

Informed sources in Lebanon blamed Salafi extremists and elements associated with the country's al-Mustaqbal party for direct involvement in the violence.

The Lebanese sources blame a retired general in charge of Mustaqbal's maintenance and leaders of al-Qaeda-linked Fatah al-Islam militia for distributing arms and SIM cards among rioters in northern Syria.

Major Salafi clerics in north Lebanon have provided refuge for terrorists operating in Syria, and issuing provocative decrees. Salafi mosques in the region are reportedly being used to store weapons.

The Syrian military ultimately succeeded in restoring calm to the area after scores of terrorists were arrested and their weapons were confiscated.

Violent clashes between armed groups and Syrian troops then broke out in the northern city of Jisr al-Shughour.

At least 120 Syrian soldiers were killed after armed groups attacked police and security stations in the city on June 6, Syrian state television reported.

Syrian TV on Sunday evening broadcast photos of a mass grave containing mutilated bodies belonging to police and security forces that were killed by armed terrorist groups in Jisr al-Shughour. Marks of torture were visible on the bodies of the victims.

Reports say the terrorist groups behind days of deadly clashes in the northern city of Jisr al-Shughour have escaped to Turkey.

Hundreds of Syrian civilians have also crossed the northern border into Turkey after the Turkish government announced that its doors are open to those seeking refuge.

The developments come as the US Central Intelligence Agency Director Leon Panetta recently visited the border between Syria and Turkey in a secret visit to Turkey. The United States and some regional countries support civil war in Syria.

Syrian army units on Monday restored security and tranquility to the city of Jisr al-Shaghour after clearing it from the armed groups that terrorized locals, attacked public and private properties, and wrought havoc in the city.

In the latest attempts, Washington and Tel Aviv are hatching plots to reignite the flames of unrest in Syria through smuggling weapons into the Arab country via the autonomous Kurdish region in northern Iraq.

The Syrian government has repeatedly blamed foreign infiltrators and extremist groups for killing civilians and security forces, and creating chaos in the country.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on June 15, 2011, 07:11:28 AM
Mass grave found in northern Syria

Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:36AM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184755.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184755.html)

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A still image from Syrian television coverage shows the remains of 10 security agents in Jisr al-Shughour, discovered on June 12, 2011.

A mass grave containing the bodies of at least 70 Syrian security forces has been unraveled in the volatile northern town of Jisr al-Shughour.

Authorities say the slain soldiers have been killed by armed gangs, a Press TV report said on Wednesday.

This is the second mass grave found in Jisr al-Shughour within days.

On Sunday, Syrian forces found another mass grave in the city, containing the bodies of 10 security forces.

Jisr al-Shughour has witnessed violent clashes between anti-government gunmen and Syrian troops during the past few days.

On Sunday, the Syrian army finally took control of the northern city, following heavy clashes to expel armed gangs from the region.

Syrian security forces say that normalcy has now returned to the area.

Many residents have however fled from the area towards the Turkish borders.

Since the beginning of the Syrian unrest in mid-March, hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed.

Although the shadowy opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings, Syrian authorities blame the armed gangs for the deadly violence, insisting that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice.
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 15, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
Syrians rally in support of president

Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:45PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184856.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184856.html)

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Thousands of supporters of President Assad lined a highway leading to the posh residential suburb of Mezze in western Damascus on Wednesday.

Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have poured into the streets in the capital, Damascus, to express support for President Bashar Assad.

Unfurling a 2.4 km-long Syrian flag, the demonstrators condemned foreign meddling in their country's internal affairs and called for unity under President Assad's leadership.

"The people want Bashar Assad," the demonstrators chanted.

The demonstrators also observed a moment of silence to honor the civilian and army martyrs.

"Raise with us the Biggest Syrian Flag" youth campaign had organized the rally and according to Syria's official news agency SANA, Syrians from across the country had poured into the capital to attend the rally.

Meanwhile, Damascus has called on the people of Jisr al-Shughour to return to the town, saying security forces have managed to clear the area of armed groups and that the government has restored control there.

Many Syrians fled from Jisr al-Shughour into Turkey after armed groups launched deadly attacks in the area.

At least 120 Syrian soldiers were killed after armed groups attacked police and security stations in the town earlier last week. Some 200 others were also injured in the clashes throughout the town.

Armed groups also took over parts of Jisr al-Shughour and torched a number of private and government properties in the town, prompting many residents to flee.

In another development on Wednesday, a second mass grave containing the bodies of at least 70 Syrian security forces has been found in the city of Jisr al-Shughour.

Authorities say the slain soldiers have been killed by armed gangs, a Press TV report said.

Since the beginning of unrest in Syria in mid-March, hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed.

The shadowy opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings. But, the government blames armed gangs for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 16, 2011, 10:44:57 AM
'Turkey ponders buffer zone in Syria'

Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:48PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184979.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/184979.html)

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File photo shows Syrian military police carrying a coffin, preparing to send the bodies of the soldiers and security forces killed during the unrest to their hometowns for burial.

Turkey may send its military forces into Syrian soil to establish a “buffer zone,” should the current unrest in Syria skyrocket into a refugee crisis that would pose a threat to Ankara, a report says.

The report, published in the Turkish daily Posta on Thursday, warned of the prospect of a civil war in Syria, adding that it could send around 200,000 Syrians Turkey's way.

Referring to the likelihood of establishing the restricted area, prominent Turkish journalist Mehmet Ali Birand also emphasized that the option "was raised at the highest level, some time ago.”

Since mid-March, Syria has been struggling with unprecedented unrest that has left scores of people dead, including many soldiers and other members of its security forces.

Syrian authorities blame armed groups and foreign elements for the violence, saying security forces have been given clear instructions not to hurt civilians.

Birand additionally states, "The UN would become involved, and Turkey would be obligated to close its border and create a buffer zone," using its armed forces.

Thousands of Syrians have fled the tension to the Hatay Province in southern Turkey, which borders Syria.

Many of the refugees come from the northern town of Jisr al-Shughour, where Syrian forces have reportedly engaged in heavy clashes with what the government has described as armed groups.

The developments come amid Ankara's recent adoption of a toughened stance vis-à-vis Damascus.

Citing a classified report, informed sources in the Syrian capital recently said the “unprecedented intensification” of unrest in Syria stemmed from deals between Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and some unknown groups in the region.

The Syrian government also says the weapons used against Syrian forces during the Jisr al-Shughour clashes were smuggled into the country from Turkey.

LW - "Birand additionally states, "The UN would become involved, and Turkey would be obligated to close its border and create a buffer zone," using its armed forces." A buffer zone in Syria mind you, not in Turkey. Sounds like a limited invasion to me... with all that such a move implies.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 19, 2011, 02:21:57 PM
Turkey to host NATO ground forces

Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:29PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185429.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185429.html)

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NATO's Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen

Amid ongoing deadly unrest in Syria, NATO plans to turn its airbase in Turkey into a stronghold for the US-led military alliance's ground forces.

The alliance would transfer its ground forces from a military base in the city of Heidelberg in southwestern Germany and another outpost in Spain to the Izmir Air Station in western Turkey, Journal of Turkish Weekly reported earlier in the month.

The base, NATO's oldest stronghold in Turkey, currently accommodates 400 operational and technical forces.

The move constitutes a part of sweeping reforms in the alliance, which according to its Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen would ultimately "make NATO leaner, more flexible, and better able to deal with future challenges."

Outlining the changes, Rasmussen has said, “We have agreed to reshape NATO's command structure, making it more efficient, more deployable, and more compact.”

The reforms include effort to "streamline the agencies, which run individual NATO projects, such as ground surveillance and strategic airlift,” he added.

The developments come amid Turkey's recent adoption of a toughened stance vis-à-vis its southern neighbor Syria, which has been grappling with unprecedented unrest since mid-March.

The turmoil, which the government blames on armed groups and foreign elements, has left scores of people dead, including many soldiers and other members of its security forces.

Ankara has, meanwhile, threatened Damascus with military intervention in the countrywide unrest, which has been troubling the latter since mid-March. It has also created an expansive military camp close to the common border.

Early June, armed groups, who had received their weapons from Turkey, killed 120 Syrian police and other members of the security forces in the northwestern town of Jisr al-Shughour before burying them in mass graves.

LW - I would say they plan on hitting Syria next using NATO (Turkey) while Israel moves into Lebanon. This does not bode well, not that anything our fearless leaders have been doing bodes well.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 19, 2011, 02:45:14 PM
'Turkish copter violates Syria airspace'

Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:57AM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185342.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185342.html)

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A Turkish military Cobra helicopter (file photo)

A Turkish military helicopter has violated Syrian air space, amid reports of a possible Turkish effort to establish a buffer zone in the Syrian soil, a report says.

The helicopter with a commander and several military troops onboard entered Syrian airspace to conduct a reconnaissance flight over the two states' borderlines and to examine Syrian border regions, Turkish Kanal 7 reports.

Turkish TV channels are providing full media coverage of Syrian refugees' departure to Turkey, encouraging the Syrian border dwellers to take refuge in neighboring Turkey.

A report published in the Turkish daily Posta on Thursday said Turkey is mulling over sending its military forces into Syrian soil to establish a “buffer zone” should the recent turmoil in Syria skyrocket into a refugee crisis that would pose a threat to Ankara.

Since mid-March, Syria has been struggling with unprecedented unrest that has left scores of people dead, including many soldiers and other members of its security forces.

Syrian authorities blame armed groups and foreign elements for the violence, saying security forces have been given clear instructions not to hurt civilians.

Many of the refugees come from the northern town of Jisr al-Shughour, where Syrian forces have reportedly engaged in heavy clashes with what the government has described as armed groups.

The developments come amid Ankara's recent adoption of a toughened stance vis-à-vis Damascus.

Citing a classified report, informed sources in the Syrian capital recently said the “unprecedented intensification” of unrest in Syria stemmed from deals between Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and some unknown groups in the region.

The Syrian government also says the weapons used against Syrian forces during the Jisr al-Shughour clashes were smuggled into the country from Turkey.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on June 19, 2011, 02:52:28 PM
We have a 'terrorist organization' running (not just) America, and they can threaten anyone they bloody well please!

The ship is going down and Americans need to focus their blame and anger on the idiotic, traitorous, terrorist warmongers in Washington, DC. Theses vampire goons have needed no help whatsoever from any outside 'enemy' to utterly destroy America.

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on June 19, 2011, 05:50:37 PM

The war with Syria is on and there's no turning back.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 19, 2011, 06:49:25 PM
But, but, but   ..... Jews on the TV tell me Syria kills hundreds of protestors daily  ..... they fire tank shells into crowds
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on June 19, 2011, 08:30:57 PM
But, but, but   ..... Jews on the TV tell me Syria kills hundreds of protestors daily  ..... they fire tank shells into crowds

That's right, Syrian troops are firing at peaceful demonstrators who been armed by the Jews.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 20, 2011, 05:42:54 AM
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SUMMARY:   ---- Syria's president Assad blames Foreign Interests for the political unrest. Jews organize a rally, Assad's fifth column advises a show of tanks, and Jewish Mercs use bombs, and the media calls it tank shelling. Why would anyone kill unarmed protestors?

Where are the videos of this killing? Reminds me of how the Jewish reporters told us Hitler executed nuns, or Saddam Hussein threw babies out of incubators


ARTICLE

 – Young Syrians  brave regime's wrath to report repression
 – A Syrian woman carries her child at a refugee camp in the Turkish border town of Yayladagi in Hatay province … By Mariam Karouny and Yara Bayoumy Mariam Karouny And Yara Bayoumy – 52 mins ago
BEIRUT (Reuters) – Syrian President Bashar al-Assad pledged on Monday political reforms within months to address a wave of protests against his rule, but blamed saboteurs  for the unrest and warned that no deal could be reached with gunmen.

Assad said a national dialogue would start soon to review new legislation including laws on parliamentary elections, the media, and political parties and look at possible changes to the constitution.

But activists dismissed Assad's promises, saying they failed to engage the demands of protesters who for three months have defied a fierce military crackdown in calling for greater freedom, posing the gravest challenge to his 11-year leadership.

After his speech, delivered at Damascus University, protesters took to the streets of the capital's suburbs and in the coastal city of Latakia, activists and residents said.

"The regime has no realization that this is a mass street movement demanding freedom and dignity," opposition figure Walid al-Bunni said. "Assad has not said anything to satisfy the families of the 1,400 martyrs or the national aspiration of the Syrian people for the country to become a democracy."

In just his third speech since unrest began in March, Assad appeared tense as he pledged to pursue a national dialogue on reforms and held out the prospect of expanding a recent amnesty.

But he said: "We have to distinguish between (those who have legitimate demands) and saboteurs. The saboteurs are a small group that tried to exploit the kind majority of the Syrian people to carry out their many schemes."

No political solution was possible with people carrying weapons, he said.

As Syrian forces swept through the northwestern border region with Turkey, blocking refugees fleeing the military crackdown, Assad called on the 10,000 who have already crossed the frontier to come home.

"There are those who give them the impression that the state will exact revenge. I affirm that is not true. The army is there for security," he said in the speech.

A committee on national dialogue is to invite more than 100 personalities in the next few days to discuss framework and mechanism of the dialogue.

Assad said he hoped the package of reforms should be ready by September if parliamentary elections went ahead as scheduled in two months' time, which will be decided during the dialogue.

"The parliamentary elections, if they are not postponed, will be held in August. We will have a new parliament by ... August and I think we can say that we are able to accomplish this package (of reforms) ... in September," he said.

NIGHT PROTESTS

The violence so close to its border has challenged Turkey's foreign policy of "zero problems with neighbors" under which it has befriended the Middle East's autocratic rulers while presenting itself as a champion of democracy.

A senior Turkish official said on Sunday that Assad has less than a week to start implementing long-promised political reforms before foreign intervention begins.Faced with troops firing live ammunition, Syrian protesters have taken to venting their anger against Assad at night.

Demonstrations erupted overnight in the cities of Hama, Homs, Latakia, Deir al-Zor, the town of Madaya near the Lebanese border, several suburbs of the capital Damascus and in Albu Kamal on the border with Iraq, witnesses and activists said.

Authorities blame the violence on armed groups and Islamists, backed by foreign powers. Syria has barred most international journalists from entering the country, making it difficult to verify accounts from activists and officials.

Syrian rights groups say at least 1,300 civilians have been killed  and 10,000 people detained since March.

The Syrian Observatory for human rights has said more than 300 soldiers and police have also been killed. Other rights campaigners said dozens of security personnel had been killed by loyalist troops for refusing to shoot at unarmed civilians.

Even so, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev practically ruled out supporting a U.N. resolution condemning Assad's crackdown on pro-democracy protesters.

In an interview published in the Financial Times on Monday, Medvedev criticised the way Western countries had interpreted U.N. Resolution 1973 on Libya which he said turned it into "a scrap of paper to cover up a pointless military operation."

"I would not like a Syrian resolution to be pulled off in a similar manner," he added.

(Additional reporting by Khaled Yacoub Oweis in Amman and Dominic Evans in Beirut; editing by Mark
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 20, 2011, 05:50:37 AM
A Syrian refugee camp  .... maybe 300 people, but great pubilicty.

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1978 Sabra And Shatilla Camps


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I noticed when the mad dog Jews. and their Lebonese militias, slaughered 5500 arabs with machetes in Sabra And Shatilla refugee camps  .... the Jewish media forgot to cover it.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on June 20, 2011, 07:11:12 AM


This a well funded operation. The brand new tents were set up and then they set out to find people to fill them. Who knows who's in those camps. It could be wandering Gypsies.

There are more refugees living on the streets of Harlem.

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Post by: wag on June 20, 2011, 08:00:32 AM

This a well funded operation. The brand new tents were set up and then they set out to find people to fill them. Who knows who's in those camps.

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I hear Coke has a booth there.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 20, 2011, 08:26:55 AM
Jews shot 380 Syrian protestors in one day

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Laconas and Wag  .... Two bleeding red diaper babies

All I hear is the Temple of Solomon,  or the holocaust, or release Pollard. Or how the Jews parted the Red Sea.

Well fellas, the Jews are Khazarians, from lower russia, and slithered into Eastern Europe. You two claim they are from Jerusalem, the Holy Land.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on June 20, 2011, 08:29:18 AM
You guys need to read some history if you think the Assad family are angels...They completely obliterates a town called Hama, located in the same area where this unrest is happening back in the early 80s...Almost all casualties were Sunni Muslims, and estimates of casualties can be realistically put in the thousands...The Assads are Alawite Muslims, a different clan, and the Sunnis were trying to overthrow old man Assad's regime for some time...So Assad wiped them out...Nobody cared.

Certainly, there are 'foreign elements' involved here, but certain Muslim groups have chafed under Assad rule for decades...It is a complex matter...Western intelligence agencies and certain foundations horn in on these affairs for their own political reasons, but the people protesting have legitimate interests nevertheless.

The West makes noise now because Obama wants to be seen as a humanitarian.

As far as the Israeli Jews, a very large faction want Assad family to stay in power because they have provided stability and not threatened the status quo.

Syria also has problems with Iraq and Turkey over water use from the Euphrates and Tigris.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 20, 2011, 08:34:49 AM
You guys need to read some history if you think the Assad family are angels...They completely obliterates a town called Hama, located in the same area where this unrest is happening back in the early 80s...Almost all casualties were Sunni Muslims, and estimates of casualties can be realistically put in the thousands...The Assads are Alawite Muslims, a different clan, and the Sunnis were trying to overthrow old man Assad's regime for some time...So Assad wiped them out...Nobody cared.

Certainly, there are 'foreign elements' involved here, but certain Muslim groups have chafed under Assad rule for decades...It is a complex matter...Western intelligence agencies and certain foundations horn in on these affairs for their own political reasons, but the people protesting have legitimate interests nevertheless.

The West makes noise now because Obama wants to be seen as a humanitarian.


Much like the Phalanx Christian Militia used in Lebanon  ..... and guess who supported the group   ...... Israel

But you maybe right  on old man Assad
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on June 20, 2011, 08:45:11 AM

Much like the Phalanx Christian Militia used in Lebanon  ..... and guess who supported the group   ...... Israel

But you maybe right  on old man Assad

Well, his son is running things now, but they still have internal problems...The Israelis always have a hand in, but don't over estimate them.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on June 20, 2011, 09:26:22 AM
Well, his son is running things now, but they still have internal problems...The Israelis always have a hand in, but don't over estimate them.

The jews told me that nazis killed 4 mill in a 2 car garage at Auschwitz  .... I believed them. Next they told me 10 jews lived in a closet for 2 1/2 yrs, and shit in a bucket, and I believed them.  Yesterday the jews told me 2 mill syrians charged a fence and jews were forced to kill 20, and I believed them.

Jews told me they had nothing to do with the civil war, WW1 or WW2 and I believe them.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 20, 2011, 09:59:01 AM
'Russia to oppose UN anti-Syria bid'

Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:33AM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185449.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185449.html)

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Russian President Dmitry Medvedev

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has declared that Moscow will not back a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning the use of violence in Syria.

In an interview the Financial Times, Medvedev slammed the way the UN Resolution 1973 on Libya had been interpreted by Western powers, and said he would not like “a Syrian resolution to be pulled off in a similar manner,” Reuters reported.

"What I am not ready to support is a resolution [similar to the one] on Libya because it is my deep conviction that a good resolution has been turned into a piece of paper that is being used to provide cover for a meaningless military operation," the Russian president pointed out.

"Right now, I am not sure that any resolution is needed because a resolution may say one thing but actions would be quite different. The resolution may say: 'We condemn the use of force in Syria' and after that, planes will take off into the air,” he further explained.

Since the beginning of the unrests in Syria in mid-March, scores of people, including security forces, have been killed.

The shadowy opposition accuses the security forces of being behind the killings. But the Syrian government blames armed gangs for the violence, saying that the unrest is being orchestrated from outside the Middle Eastern country.

In April, the Washington Post published secret diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks, which indicated that the US has conducted a long campaign to overthrow the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

The Syrian president has vowed to bring the people responsible for the killings to justice.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 20, 2011, 10:01:02 AM
Saboteurs exploit Syria reforms: Assad

Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:43AM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185483.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185483.html)

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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad addressed the nation on June 20.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad says saboteurs are trying to exploit a movement seeking legitimate reforms in the country.

In an address to the Syrian nation on Monday, Assad said he differentiates between those with needs and those he described as “destructive elements,” Press TV reported.

Assad warned that a “conspiracy” is blooming in Syria. However, he added that “plotting” will only make the country stronger.

The Syrian president went on to say that his relationship with his people is based on “action and not words.”

Assad said he would like to “meet directly with protesters and have a comprehensive dialogue.”

“A national dialogue committee will be formed soon,” he added.

Scores of people, including security forces, have been killed since the beginning of unrest in Syria in mid-March.

Assad hailed the nation's “great vigilance” and pointed to the “martyrs” of the recent clashes, expressing his condolences to their families. He said Syria has paid “a high price” for its security and stability.

The Syrian president also stated that Syria is “at a turning point” of its history.

“A turning point from a past which was an unfamiliar black period that led to disappointment; We saw the killings, the terrorizing of citizens, and the destruction of public and private property which all came in the mix of a popular protest,” he said.

The shadowy opposition in Syria accuses the security forces of being behind the recent killings. However, the Syrian government blames armed gangs for the violence, saying that the unrest has been orchestrated from outside the crucial Middle Eastern country.

Assad told his nation that the solution to the recent unrest in Syria is to “resolve problems by ourselves.”

“A bright future awaits Syria just based on a national dialogue.”
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 20, 2011, 09:08:54 PM
US threatens Syria with regime change

Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:32AM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185583.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185583.html)

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White House spokesman Jay Carney

The United States has threatened the Syrian government with regime change and told President Bashar al-Assad he must decide whether he wants to be a promoter of progress in Syria or an obstacle.

“There needs to be actual action towards political dialogue so that this transition to a more democratic Syria can take place,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said on Monday, the Associated Press reported.

“And as we have said in the past, President Assad needs to either lead that transition or get out of the way,” he added and called on the head of state to act upon his promises of political reform.

The harsh rhetoric was used, even though the Syrian president promised to hold parliamentary elections in August and complete a reform package by September meant to bring an end to months of unrest in the country.

Scores of people, including security forces, have been killed since the beginning of the unprecedented unrest in mid-March.

The Syrian government blames armed gangs for the violence, saying that the turmoil has been orchestrated from outside the country.

Shortly before the US official's comments, Assad addressed the nation and announced that he is ready to “meet directly with protesters and have a comprehensive dialogue.”

“A national dialogue committee will be formed soon,” he said.

He also expressed regret that 'destructive elements' have been exploiting the movement seeking legitimate reforms in the country.

Syria's northern neighbor Turkey, which has recently toughened its stance vis-à-vis Damascus, responded to the speech, calling it not up to par. Turkish President Abdullah Gul advised Assad to transform Syria's governing structure into a multi-party system.

Thousands of Syrians have fled the tension to Hatay Province in southern Turkey, which is located on the border with Syria.

In early June, armed groups, whose weapons reportedly came from Turkey, killed 120 Syrian policemen and other members of the security forces in the northwestern town of Jisr al-Shughour before burying them in mass graves.

During his speech, the Syrian president asserted that 'plotting' would only make the country stronger and hailed the nation's 'great vigilance.'

Assad also said that Syria has paid 'a high price' for its security and stability and expressed his condolences to the families of the 'martyrs' of the recent clashes.

LW - What only recently was condemned as inappropriate and denied if suggested is now the new 'normal'. The current administration is fascists through and through, run by Zionist psychopaths. Syria has the only leader that is actually responding to the need for change in the mideast and yet Syria is being attacked by the Zionist/US's proxies each and every day. It's quite clear what's going on there. The US attacks Syria through Turkey (NATO member) and then Israel can do a redux in Lebanon. This does not bode well... unless ww3 is what is desired, which it is by these seriously morally destitute psychos.
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Post by: mallard on June 21, 2011, 07:04:16 AM
Diplomatic threats will only encourage more violence and civil unrest.  Syria will become a difficult country to live in, if not quite so bad as Libya. 
Title: - - BREAKING NEWS: All hell is breaking loose!!!
Post by: Rudi Jan on June 21, 2011, 09:34:55 AM
'Israel, Turkey hold secret talks'

Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:31PM
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The Gaza Freedom Flotilla

Israeli and Turkish officials have been holding US-backed secret direct talks to ease tensions between the two sides, an Israeli official has said.

A source in the Turkish Foreign Ministry and a US official confirmed that direct talks are being held between an Israeli official on behalf of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Turkish Foreign Ministry Undersecretary Feridun Sinirlioglu, Ha'aretz reported on Tuesday.

The talks are reportedly being held between the Israeli representative to the UN inquiry committee on last year's Gaza flotilla, Yosef Ciechanover, and Turkey's representative on the committee, Ozdem Sanberk.

The relations between Tel Aviv and Ankara have been strained after Israeli commandos on May 31, 2010 attacked the Gaza Freedom Flotilla in international waters to prevent the convoy from breaking the blockade in the Gaza Strip.

In the assault, nine Turkish nationals, including a teenager with Turkish-US dual citizenship, were killed and dozens were injured.

Turkey cut its ties with Israel following the incident and asked Tel Aviv to apologize over the attack and compensate the families of the victims.

LW - Making sure Turkey is on side before moving on Syria.
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Post by: Sue on June 21, 2011, 11:25:04 AM
The Assad regime's desperate – and dangerous – gamble

Tuesday, 21 June 2011 ~ Source (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-the-assad-regimes-desperate-ndash-and-dangerous-ndash-gamble-2300333.html)

Almost half a year after the start of what became the Arab Spring, the former President of Tunisia is being tried in absentia, Egypt is bogged down in constitutional debate before elections scheduled for the autumn, and Libya's President Gaddafi is fighting for his life. In the Gulf, the government of Bahrain, bolstered by Saudi security forces, is retrenching, with the trials of political opponents and medical staff, while the President of Yemen may or may not return from Saudi Arabia, where he is being treated for injuries sustained in an attack on his palace.

But one of the fiercest and potentially most destabilizing – or, more positively, transforming – struggles has still to reach its climax in Syria, where President Bashar al-Assad yesterday gave his first televised speech for two months. If he wanted to regain the political initiative, he conspicuously failed. And if he intended to extend an olive branch to his opponents, this is not the message they understood. No sooner had he completed his address, they took to the streets to express their displeasure. As an attempt to calm mounting tensions, it rebounded.

Mr Assad essayed the despairing stratagems of every threatened leader. He blamed and threatened the opposition, branding them hooligans and saboteurs, while at the same time trying to woo them back with vague promises of an amnesty. He expressed regret – the first time he had done so – for the deaths of protesters and held out the prospect of a "national dialogue". He said a new committee was being set up to examine the constitution, and a reform package would be ready by September.

As he blew hot and cold in this time-honoured way, however, it was impossible to discern whether he was broaching political reform in good faith, or whether it was a sop to his critics at home and abroad. By trying to play simultaneously to hardliners and would-be reformers, he risked a balancing act which is unlikely to come to any good end.

As the fate of Hosni Mubarak demonstrated, there is a point beyond which promises of reform, however well meant, are no longer enough. In Syria, with more than 1,000 protesters dead, more than 10,000 arriving as refugees in Turkey, another 10,000 trying to reach Turkey, and villages and towns laid waste, that point has surely been reached.

The international response has lacked clarity and cohesion, in part because the stakes are so high. Chaos in Syria could have more profound repercussions for the region than any of the revolutionary changes that have so far taken place. One glance at the map is sufficient to appreciate the fragility of the neighbourhood.

One hope might be – as the Foreign Secretary, William Hague, suggested yesterday – that Turkey's government, newly endorsed in the recent election, could exert influence on Mr Assad to introduce reforms or "step aside". Among European foreign ministers, moves are afoot for a new UN Security Council resolution to condemn Syria's military crackdown. Even if, as seems inevitable, such a resolution were rejected by Russia, however, it is hard to see how any outside pressure would change the dynamics of what is now happening in Syria. Mr Assad, who raised such hopes when he succeeded his father 11 years ago, has probably allowed the chance of controlled reforms to pass him by.

Unfortunately, his procrastination could have an additional cost. Those rulers who have shown a more realistic understanding of what is needed – in Morocco and to a lesser extent in Jordan – could yet find a popular appetite for measured reform turning to insurrection under the influence of events in Syria. In trying to defy the wind of change, Mr Assad risks unleashing the whirlwind.

The priority of any government should be to "disarm" anti-social elements who are killing other people. This is what is carried out under normal circumstances and it should be followed under all circumstances. The scenarios we are seeing right now are violent actions of some groups, taking the law in their own hands, killing people (which is not at all mentioned in the media) creating chaos and disturbance in the city which is totally unacceptable for "normal" life to resume in the city.

If the people have to protest or say anything or want any reforms, it should be done in a peaceful manner and not by butchring hundreds of soldiers.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on June 21, 2011, 01:42:37 PM
The international response has lacked clarity and cohesion, in part because the stakes are so high.

Could it be because the 'internationalists' are fomenting this so-called protest? The Syrians were not caught up in the 'Arab Spring' to begin with and though they may have had cause to be unhappy with Assad there were few protests and they weren't massive. Yet inexplicably the 'protesters' moved into armed insurrection from the onset. I may be swimming upstream here (nothing new) but I see this as patterned after the so-called 'color-revolutions' as we witnessed in Georgia and that the PTBs are emulating the events in the other Arab nations as cover for covert operations against Syria, which I expect will become overt any day now.
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Post by: Sue on June 21, 2011, 02:05:37 PM
Could it be because the 'internationalists' are fomenting this so-called protest?

The Syrians were not caught up in the 'Arab Spring' to begin with and though they may have had cause to be unhappy with Assad there were few protests and they weren't massive. Yet inexplicably the 'protesters' moved into armed insurrection from the onset. I may be swimming upstream here (nothing new) but I see this as patterned after the so-called 'color-revolutions' as we witnessed in Georgia and that the PTBs are emulating the events in the other Arab nations as cover for covert operations against Syria, which I expect will become overt any day now.

Same modus operandi, yes, without a doubt.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on June 21, 2011, 08:15:17 PM
WashPost Zionists are getting even worse; they used to relegate the wilder pro-Israel columns to semi-independent scribblers, now they are strictly toeing the AIPAC line.  Of course on most issues (ie bankster bailouts) the WaPo is stoutly pro-Obama.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-is-obama-so-tough-on-israel-and-timid-on-syria/2011/06/19/AGmcB3bH_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-is-obama-so-tough-on-israel-and-timid-on-syria/2011/06/19/AGmcB3bH_story.html)

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Jackson Diehl
    Deputy Editorial Page Editor

Why is Obama so tough on Israel and timid on Syria?

By Jackson Diehl, Published: June 19

One of the hallmarks of the Arab Spring has been the emergence of a new and more modest American foreign policy. The Obama administration has insisted on not taking the lead in promoting democratic change; it has declined to act unless not just the French and British but the Arab League go first. It still can’t bring itself to say that Bashar al-Assad, a dictator and implacable U.S. enemy who is using tanks and helicopter gunships to slaughter his people, is not qualified to lead Syria to democracy.

Yet there is one big exception: the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. On a Middle Eastern front that has remained mostly quiet in 2011, the position of the United States is: a) it possesses a detailed solution; b) action must be taken immediately; and c) it doesn’t matter whether the people concerned — Israelis and Palestinians — are agreeable or ready.

Obama the timid suddenly turns tough when the “peace process” comes up. He has spoken in public on Syria just twice since its massacres began three months ago. But he chose to spell out U.S. terms for Israeli-Palestinian negotiations without the agreement of Israel’s prime minister, on the eve of meeting him at the White House and with only a few hours’ notice — arguably the most high-handed presidential act in U.S.-Israeli relations since the Eisenhower administration.

Now, with prodding from the European Union, Obama is attempting to strong-arm Israelis and Palestinians into beginning negotiations on the parameters he set. The talks must be agreed to this month, says Washington; they should begin by September. U.S. and European envoys were shuttling between Jerusalem and Ramallah last week in an attempt to extract a “yes” from Binyamin Netanyahu and Mahmoud Abbas.

It would be wonderful if this imperialist diplomacy succeeded. If it does, it will disprove the Obama administration’s nascent doctrine about the limits of U.S. power and influence in the Middle East.

Consider the two parties who would be dragged to the negotiating table. Netanyahu heads a right-wing coalition that would almost certainly collapse if he agreed to Obama’s terms — which, in any case, he opposes. A senior Israeli official last week gave me a long list of fixes he said would be needed before his government could accept the Obama formula — and even then, he added, the proposal wouldn’t fly “unless there was a deep reservoir of mutual confidence” between the two leaders, “which doesn’t exist.”

Then there is Abbas, who at 76 is planning his retirement. He has committed himself to spending the next year seeing through a reconciliation with the Hamas movement, arranging elections for his successor and seeking recognition for Palestine at the United Nations. For two years he has refused to negotiate with Netanyahu, whom he despises. Even Yasser Arafat appeared more disposed than this Palestinian leader to make the wrenching concessions needed for a deal. And who would guarantee that the Palestinian president elected next May would pick up where Abbas left off?

What’s extraordinary about Obama’s initiative is not its details, which don’t differ meaningfully from the ideas of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush or, for that matter, several of Netanyahu’s predecessors as prime minister. It is, rather, its superpower chutzpah — the brazen disregard for the views and political posture of this Israeli government, and the fecklessness and disarray of the current Palestinian leadership. Never mind, goes the implicit Euro-American line: We will make this happen.

What could account for such an attitude, given the timorous approach to the rest of the region? Part of it is understandable frustration with years of Israeli-Palestinian impasse, which is magnified by the conviction in much of official Washington that the terms for peace are well known and widely accepted, and need only be implemented. Part is legitimate worry that the Israeli-
Palestinian front, though quiet now, could explode later this year after a United Nations vote, helping extremists in places such as Egypt. Yet the damage to U.S. interests from a U.N. resolution on Palestine would pale compared to the consequences of an Iranian-backed victory by Assad in Syria or the failure of NATO in Libya. Those crises have not moved Obama to lead.

There is, in his diplomacy, an implicit conviction that the United States must first of all deal with the sins of its own client. “Here are the facts we must all confront,” Obama declared in his speech to the AIPAC conference last month, before proceeding to deliver a lecture about Palestinian demography, Arab politics and the United Nations. It wasn’t that he was entirely wrong. But it’s revealing of this president that he is determined to speak truth to Binyamin Netanyahu — and not to Bashar al-Assad.
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Post by: laconas on June 21, 2011, 08:30:06 PM

What the heck is this Jew talking about? The only thing I got out of it is the US must invade and destroy Syria for the Jews.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on June 22, 2011, 07:36:42 AM
Syria condemns extended EU sanctions

Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:17PM
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Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem

The Syrian foreign minister has criticized the West's approach to the recent unrest in Syria, saying Damascus considers extended EU sanctions as a declaration of war.

Speaking during a televised news conference on Wednesday, Walid al-Muallem said that the recently-imposed EU sanctions against Damascus have not and will not affect Syria's independent will.

"We will forget that Europe is on the map and we will look east, south and toward every hand that is extended to us. The world is not just made up of Europe,'' he said.

The EU imposed sanctions on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and members of the leadership on 23 May after accusing Damascus of cracking down on protesters.

The 27-nation bloc has now extended its existing sanctions to four military-linked firms and to more Syrian officials. The US has also imposed sanctions on Syria.

The Syrian foreign minister also rejected foreign meddling in his country's internal affairs.

"We can reach consensus despite opposing points of view," Muallem said, adding that, "No one outside (Syria) can impose on us their point of view."

He said the government will present "an unprecedented example of democracy'' in the country within three months. His remarks follow Assad's promises of reforms.

"We will offer an example of democracy. There will be social justice, equality before the law and accountability," Muallem said.

The top Syrian diplomat also said that the Syrian government wants to maintain good relations with longtime ally Turkey, with which Syria shares a long border.

"We don't want to wipe away years of efforts to establish privileged ties," he said.

"I wish (Turkey) would reconsider its position."

He also strongly denied reports that Iran and Hezbollah are helping the Syrian government put down the recent unrest.

"There is Iranian and Hezbollah political support for Syria to transcend this crisis and support for the reforms announced by President Assad. But there is absolutely no military support on the ground,'' Muallem added.

Since the beginning of unrest in Syria in mid-March, hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed.

The shadowy opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings. But the government blames armed gangs for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
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Post by: jewbacca on June 22, 2011, 07:40:45 AM
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Post by: EyeBelieve on June 22, 2011, 07:21:58 PM
The Syrian foreign minister has criticized the West's approach to the recent unrest in Syria, saying Damascus considers extended EU sanctions as a declaration of war.

In the olden days sanctions were rightly regarded as war but not under our hypocritical empire which portrays them as a friendly nudge.  USA has sanctions vs dozens of nations.
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Post by: laconas on June 22, 2011, 07:34:13 PM
In the olden days sanctions were rightly regarded as war but not under our hypocritical empire which portrays them as a friendly nudge.  USA has sanctions vs dozens of nations.

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"We will forget that Europe is on the map and we will look east, south and toward every hand that is extended to us. The world is not just made up of Europe,'' he said.

To sum it up, the Jewish led empire is losing ground around the world just like it started to lose ground in the 1930's. WWIII is just around the corner.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on June 23, 2011, 09:25:22 AM
In the olden days sanctions were rightly regarded as war but not under our hypocritical empire which portrays them as a friendly nudge.  USA has sanctions vs dozens of nations.

The Team. Regardless of how hypocrites view the matter olden days have not redefined the true nature of sanctions. They are acts of war as are all the other things being carried out throughout the world, US terrorism. I can think of no other nation more adept at terror.

Israel has always been my perennial favorite however it's preference for proxy terrorism through other 'nations' and 'causes' has allowed that pseudo nation's penchant for murder and mayhem to slide off the radar these past few years.

To sum it up, the Jewish led empire is losing ground around the world just like it started to lose ground in the 1930's. WWIII is just around the corner.

And if we assume that WW3 is part of their agenda to gain world hegemony? An objective in it's own right for Israel? Or not Israel maybe, but more so, an objective for the tenants of the pyramid's capstone, who live everywhere but in Israel? Even if WW3 meant the sacrifice of 6,000,000 Jews in Israel, they might well see the cost as worth it.

How is that 'losing ground'? After all this about gaining ground, all the ground really.

They may be more exposed but it would seem that they could care less. The action of governments everywhere are reacting to discontent in a most authoritarian manner. Any talk of government serving the people rather than the reverse is but dream talk. Taboo subject. Not a subject for discussion. Ever. That in itself reflects the ubiquitous control of the upper hierarchy in all our worlds. It is ubiquitous but it is weak and easily defeated. But that requires a thorough knowledge of fundamental principles long forgotten.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 09, 2011, 11:08:41 AM
Syrians call for expulsion of US envoy

Sat Jul 9, 2011 1:12PM
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Syrians protest US interference in their internal affairs July 8, 2011.

Syrians have gathered outside the US Embassy in Damascus, calling for the expulsion of the American ambassador over meddling in the country's internal affairs.

Protesters carrying the Syrian flag and placard denouncing Ambassador Robert Ford, threw bottles, eggs and shoes at the US Embassy on Friday, the official Syrian Arab News Agency reported.

This comes as the Syrian Foreign Ministry criticized Ford on Thursday for his unauthorized visit to Hama without prior arrangements with Syrian officials, describing it as a “clear evidence” of a US attempt to incite instability in the country.

''The presence of the US ambassador in Hama city without obtaining a prior permission from the Foreign Ministry, as stipulated by instructions distributed repeatedly to all the embassies, is clear evidence of the US involvement in the ongoing events in Syria and its bid to aggravate the situation which destabilizes Syria,'' the Foreign Ministry statement said.

The protesters further saluted the Syrian army, saying that all Syrians support it.

Thousands of people also gathered in the Bab Touma Square in Damascus, stressing that the Syrian people were well aware of the lies propagated in media channels across the world, with one protester describing the material as “expired horror movies.”

Similar pro-government protests were held in several locations throughout the country.

The Middle Eastern country has been experiencing unrest over the past months, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of the country's President Bashar al-Assad.

The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the deaths of those killed during the unrest. The government, however, blames armed gangs for the deadly violence, saying that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice as several members of armed terrorist groups have been arrested so far.

In early June, at least 120 Syrian forces were killed when armed groups attacked them in the northwestern town of Jisr al-Shughour.
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Post by: jacob gold on July 18, 2011, 04:59:46 AM
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SUMMARY:  ---- Mystery activists tell Jewish media that 30 people were killed in Syria. It seems it's the Sunnis killing Shiites. These are mystery killings by mystery men, and nothing is verifiied. Basically a combination of propaganda and jewish paid merc snipers.





Syrian activists say up to 30 killed in 24 hours

By ZEINA KARAM - Associated Press | AP – 1 hr 39 mins agoBEIRUT (AP) — Sectarian violence killed up to 30 people in Homs  over the weekend after the mutilated bodies of three regime supporters were found in the central Syrian city, activists said.

The killings were a serious escalation in the bloodshed stemming from a four-month-old uprising against President Bashar Assad's authoritarian regime.

There have been fears that the revolt would enflame long-simmering tensions between Syria's potentially explosive mix of religions and minority groups. Most Syrians are Sunni Muslim, but Assad and the ruling elite belong to the minority Alawite sect, an offshoot of Shiite Islam.The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and a Syrian activist in Homs put the death toll at 30 and said they have the names of the victims.

But another activist in Homs said he's not certain if the death toll was as high as 30. He suggested the real number may be about half.

The activists in Homs spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution.

The director of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, Rami Abdul-Rahman, said the killings were a "dangerous transformation." The violence was reminiscent of the kind of sectarian battles that have bedeviled Syria's neighbors in Iraq and in Lebanon.

The bloodshed began after three Alawites were found dead in Homs on Saturday, a Homs resident said. The next day, six more bodies from various sects were found dumped in the city.

The resident said the killings of Alawite members sparked a "violent reaction" from pro-government thugs called shabiha, who went on a rampage, opening fire indiscriminately in predominantly Sunni neighborhoods in Homs, and setting fire and breaking into their shops.

"It was a catastrophe, the situation could easily have slipped out of control," he said, adding the situation calmed down Monday but tensions were high.

The dead included a 27-year-old mother of three, who was shot as she left her home, and a man in his 50s who was struck by a bullet on his balcony.



http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-activists-30-killed-24-hours-101028705.html
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Post by: laconas on July 18, 2011, 11:50:29 AM

It sounds like the Jews are invading Syria with secret paid teams.
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Post by: jacob gold on July 18, 2011, 12:49:04 PM
It sounds like the Jews are invading Syria with secret paid teams.


Paid by the American taxpayer  ---- but, controlled by Israel

Jews want to move on Iran, and this is the lead up to it. Stay out of Des Moines
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 22, 2011, 07:56:44 AM
Thirteen security forces killed in Syria

Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:3PM GMT
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Syrians protest US interference in their internal affairs on July 8, 2011.

A local newspaper has reported that fresh clashes in the city of Homs have claimed the life of at least 13 army and security personnel and injured up to one hundred others.

The violence erupted on Thursday as army and security personnel were conducting “qualitative and delicate” operations trying to track down armed groups who have being hiding in crowded areas, Xinhua reported.

Syria has been experiencing unrest in the past months, with demonstrations held both against and in support President Bashar al-Assad's government.

Hundreds have lost their lives in some protest rallies that turned into armed clashes between alleged protesters and state security forces as well as organized attacks by well-armed gangs against the Syrian police force and border guards in north of the country.

The opposition says the security forces are behind the violence, but the Syrian government says armed thugs, acting in line with foreign conspiracies, are the culprits.

Syrian state TV has broadcast reports and images of seizing weapons caches as well as the confessions of elements detailing how they obtained arms from foreign sources.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 22, 2011, 10:31:15 PM
2 blasts rock Syrian Army War College

Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:16AM GMT
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Syrian security forces are carrying coffins of soldiers killed in the recent unrests in the country. (file photo)

Two blasts have rocked the Syrian Army War College in the central city of Homs, residents have reported.

The explosions were heard in the old district of al-Waer early on Saturday, Reuters reported.

Ambulances were seen heading to the compound, according to residents.

"Smoke rose from inside the premises. The injured were taken to the military hospital. It looked like an operation of some sort," said one of the residents.

Syria has witnessed huge demonstrations over the past few months.

The opposition says the security forces are behind the violence, but the Syrian government says armed thugs backed by foreign powers are the culprits.

LW - Exactly who are these people that speak for the 'opposition' anyway? Press TV must answer that question rather than just repeating this comment ad nauseum.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on July 27, 2011, 02:33:18 PM
11 killed in fresh Syria clashes

Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:32PM GMT
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Syrians carry national flags as they march in support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, in Damascus, July 17, 2011.

Human rights activists say at least eleven people have been killed in fresh clashes in the Syrian town of Kanaker near the capital, Damascus.

The head of the opposition National Organization for Human Rights (NOHR), Ammar Qurabi, said security forces backed by tanks entered Kanaker early on Wednesday to stop the anti-government protests in the town.

The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, however, puts the death toll at eight. Activists say more than 300 people were also arrested during the operation.

Syrian authorities have not commented on the incident, yet.

Meanwhile, massive demonstrations in support of the Syrian government were held across the country. The demonstrators also condemned foreign interference in their country's internal affairs, Syria's official news agency SANA reported.

Syria has been experiencing unrest over the past months, with demonstrations held both against and in support of the country's President Bashar al-Assad.

The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the deaths of those killed during unrest. But, the government blames armed gangs for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice as several members of armed terrorist groups have been arrested so far.

In early June, at least 120 Syrian forces were killed when armed groups attacked them in the northwestern town of Jisr al-Shughour.
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Post by: laconas on July 27, 2011, 03:32:06 PM

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The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the deaths of those killed during unrest. But, the government blames armed gangs for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring those behind the killings to justice as several members of armed terrorist groups have been arrested so far.

Syria and Libya are winning 2 nil with Russia's and China's support to be sure. This is gonna make the Jews do something totally stupid; the Jews of this generation are not used to losing.
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Post by: Sue on July 29, 2011, 10:27:27 AM
These 'fighters' are corrupted rebels, paid CIA mercenaries. True believers and patriots will be cleansed.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on August 05, 2011, 08:20:14 PM

Our ruling Jews could be planning another war or something.


US urges citizens to leave Syria immediately

By REUTERS
08/06/2011 03:55

State Department warns that given the "ongoing uncertainty and volatility" American citizens are urged to leave immediately while transportation is still available.
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WASHINGTON - Americans in Syria are encouraged to leave and travel to the country should be postponed, the US State Department said on Friday following widespread violence that has pitted thousands of protesters against the government.

The State Department warned that given the "ongoing uncertainty and volatility" US citizens are urged to leave immediately while transportation is still available. The advisory also encouraged Americans who remain to limit any nonessential travel within the country.

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The advisory expands a travel warning issued in late April that ordered eligible family members of US government employees and certain non-emergency personnel to leave.

Syrian security forces on Friday killed at least 18 protesters in attacks on tens of thousands of protesters who poured into the streets to demonstrate against the rule of President Bashar Assad on the first Friday of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan.

The four-month-old uprising has grown increasingly violent in recent days as tanks have launched an attack on the central city of Hama in an effort to quell pro-democracy protesters. An estimated 300 people have been killed since the military assault began on Sunday on the city of 700,000 people in central Syria.

The Syrian protesters are defying a bloody military crackdown on uprisings that began in March against some 41 years of Assad family domination.

The White House said US President Barack Obama and leaders from France and Germany have agreed to take measures to pressure Assad over his crackdown, but so far they have not outlined what those steps might be.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=232655


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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 06, 2011, 12:06:07 AM
Our ruling Jews could be planning another war or something.


US urges citizens to leave Syria immediately

Joo PTB is seeing their "free market" system collapse so they are gaming what's left of the system.  Phony downgraded US debt ratings, phony Middle-East wars etc.  They want to scare John Doe into panic selling.
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Post by: laconas on August 06, 2011, 12:21:37 AM
Joo PTB is seeing their "free market" system collapse so they are gaming what's left of the system.  Phony downgraded US debt ratings, phony Middle-East wars etc.  They want to scare John Doe into panic selling.

Unoficially the invasion of Syria has already begun with armed mercenaries roaming the country.
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Post by: pope daniel on August 06, 2011, 12:28:25 AM
i should get that pin incase i need to have a job interview or pass through customs at the airport or something
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Post by: laconas on August 06, 2011, 12:32:45 AM
i should get that pin incase i need to have a job interview or pass through customs at the airport or something

Traffic stops too.
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Post by: jacob gold on August 06, 2011, 09:56:41 AM
100's killed by bombs or snipers ........ Why would Assad shoot protestors?   ....... These mystery snipers and bombers are jew financed mercs

Syria, Lebannon, Iraq, etc are kept disorganized so they are busy and not watching the Jew
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: mallard on August 06, 2011, 09:54:46 PM
"Why would Assad shoot protestors?"

It's like shooting himself in the foot and 'happens' to put the Golan Heights 'deal' on the back burner indefinitely.

Regime change could catch in state of a Syria in civil war.  It's already underway.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on August 06, 2011, 10:18:03 PM
"Why would Assad shoot protestors?"

It's like shooting himself in the foot and 'happens' to put the Golan Heights 'deal' on the back burner indefinitely.

Regime change could catch in state of a Syria in civil war.  It's already underway.

ride on brother
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Post by: Vidarr on August 06, 2011, 11:01:50 PM
Our ruling Jews could be planning another war or something.

They have planned that war as part of the 911 war on on terror and outlined it in a report called "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm " in 1996.

The route was Iraq and from there to Syria.  Syria is actually the main target and Iraq just part of the preparations.   



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Post by: laconas on August 07, 2011, 05:29:36 AM
They have planned that war as part of the 911 war on on terror and outlined it in a report called "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm " in 1996.

The route was Iraq and from there to Syria.  Syria is actually the main target and Iraq just part of the preparations.

It get's too ridiculous when jew media describes the jew backed armed fighters with rpg's and kalashnikovs in Syria as peaceful protestors.
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Post by: jacob gold on August 07, 2011, 09:03:37 AM
It get's too ridiculous when jew media describes the jew backed armed fighters with rpg's and kalashnikovs in Syria as peaceful protestors.


Jews organize a protest down Abu Salem street  .... and there is a car bomb waiting  .... and there are jewish merc snipers on a roof ..... then the jewish media says it was Assad's tanks and storm troopers
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Post by: laconas on August 07, 2011, 09:17:39 AM

Jews organize a protest down Abu Salem street  .... and there is a car bomb waiting  .... and there are jewish merc snipers on a roof ..... then the jewish media says it was Assad's tanks and storm troopers

I can't wait for Obama's speech on why we have to save the people of Syria.
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Post by: FrontierJustice on August 07, 2011, 11:23:16 AM
I can't wait for Obama's speech on why we have to save the people of Syria.

Assad has always reminded me of Portugal's Salazar... Level-headed, intellectual, on the right side of things politically, a man of the people. That's why jews need him out of the way.
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Post by: jacob gold on August 07, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
I can't wait for Obama's speech on why we have to save the people of Syria.

Isreal is the only democracy in the middle east.  God bless Israel, and god bless all jews
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on August 07, 2011, 11:55:12 AM
Assad has always reminded me of Portugal's Salazar... Level-headed, intellectual, on the right side of things politically, a man of the people. That's why jews need him out of the way.

Jews kill to kill. Half of their cons are just based on them proving their mental superority. They don't want Assad roaming free .... they want their zio puppets controlling every state in the middle east
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 10, 2011, 11:09:48 AM
'Clashes in Syria's Homs claim 10 lives'

Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:33PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193343.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193343.html)

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Hundreds of Syrian security forces have been killed in the unrest.

Human Rights activists say at least ten people have lost their lives in a fresh round of clashes in the crisis-hit Syrian city of Homs.

Twenty others were wounded in the violence in Baba Amro neighborhood of the central city on Wednesday.

"Some bodies are lying in the sun and people cannot remove them because of the shooting," AFP quoted one activist as saying.

Activists have also said that security forces have arrested dozens of people in the region.

Meanwhile, Syrian army troops have pulled out of the central city of Hama after restoring security and stability.

"The army units have gone back to their barracks after having accomplished their mission, and residents, happy to be rid of the armed gangs who tried to sow discord among the population, have returned home," a high-ranking officer said.

According to a Syrian military source, troops were also leaving one town in the province of Idlib, which borders Turkey.

The operation aimed "to hunt down saboteurs and armed groups at the request of Idlib's residents" and troops are now "returning to their barracks, after achieving their mission," the source said.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government.

Hundreds of people were killed when some protest rallies turned into armed clashes between alleged protesters and state security forces as well as organized attacks by armed gangs against Syrian police forces.

While the opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings, the government blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 10, 2011, 11:11:47 AM
Syrian terrorist details Hama massacre

Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:32PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193325.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193325.html)

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Nader Hassan al-Kattan said he was recruited by someone called Mohammad Noir.

State television in Syria has broadcast the confessions of a member of an armed group detailing the massacre carried out by gangs in the central city of Hama.

Nader Hassan al-Kattan said several terrorist groups were operating in Hama where their members are instructed to attack police, security personnel and law-enforcement officials in order to cause mayhem in the city.

He also said the footage broadcast by Syrian television showing people throwing mutilated bodies into a river some ten days ago was very much true, confessing, "I was among the terrorists who threw one of the dead….”

According to al-Kattan, the victims were policemen killed in an attack on a police station in al-Hader area. Syrian state TV said 17 mutilated bodies of security forces had been recovered from Orontes River.

He said they mutilated the bodies of the victims with knives and swords in order to scare away security personnel and prevent them from entering Hama. Al-Kattan said terrorist leaders pay each member SYP 5000 (almost USD106) per day.

Meanwhile, army units left Hama on Wednesday after restoring security and stability in the city, an army officer told journalists.

According to Syrian TV, armed groups have killed a security official and a soldier east of al-Rastan. Terrorists also exploded a 17-meter high bridge on the Homs-Damascus route.

Syrian TV also reported that armed groups have blocked roads in a Damascus suburb and have attacked civilians. The Syrian army has entered Deir al-Zour to remove road blocks set by armed terrorists.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 11, 2011, 08:14:50 PM
Report: Terrorists kill Syrian civilian

Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:58PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193510.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193510.html)

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File photo shows unrest in Syria.

Armed terrorists have killed a Syrian civilian and wounded three others in the city of Deir al-Zour in northeastern Syria, says the country's official news agency.

The victims were assaulted by members of an armed group on their way to the north-central city of Ar-Raqqah, SANA reported.

The incident followed reports of armed gangs entering the area.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March with organized attacks by well-armed gangs against Syrian police forces and border guards being reported across the country.

Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the tension.

Damascus says that the unrest is being orchestrated from outside the country and that the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.

Syrian state TV has also broadcast reports and images of seizure of arms caches as well as confessions by terrorist elements, pointing to how they obtained weaponry from foreign sources.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 12, 2011, 08:23:47 PM
5 Syrians killed by armed gangs

Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:43AM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193687.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193687.html)

At least five people were killed on Friday, including three members of the security forces, in clashes between armed gangs and military personnel in several Syrian cities.

Armed gangs with snipers fired randomly in the Damascus suburb of Douma, the Sakhour neighborhood in the northern province of Aleppo, and the Areha neighborhood in the northern province of Idlib, the SANA news agency reported.

The security forces reportedly killed four members of the armed groups and arrested several others.

On Friday, small demonstrations held in the northern province of Idlib, the central province of Homs, and the eastern town of al-Boukmal were dispersed within a short time.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government.

Hundreds of people have been killed in protest rallies that turned into armed clashes between alleged protesters and state security forces and in organized attacks by armed gangs targeting the Syrian security forces.

The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings. But the Syrian government blames armed gangs for the violence, saying that the unrest is being orchestrated from outside the country.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring the people responsible for the killings to justice.
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Post by: jacob gold on August 13, 2011, 05:25:01 AM
Quote
Armed gangs with snipers fired randomly in the Damascus suburb of Douma,
   ....... AKA Jewish controlled mercenaries
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 13, 2011, 01:01:46 PM
   ....... AKA Jewish controlled mercenaries

That's been my take on it.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 13, 2011, 07:48:27 PM
More Turkish troops sent to Syria border

Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:45PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193806.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193806.html)

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Turkish troops (file photo)

The Turkish military has called up recently retired officers in anticipation of a massive influx of Syrian refugees along its border with Syria.

Veterans that have retired from the military over the past five years are to be deployed in border provinces, the Turkish newspaper Today's Zaman reported on Thursday.

More personnel have already been sent to bases and strategically important outposts, with Turkish officials stating that “17,000 Syrians are on their way,” fleeing from destabilized regions of their country.

There are already over 7,000 Syrian refugees in Turkey, and no one knows what might happen if the trend continues, Turkish officials say.

The Turkish government has been preparing for the massive entry of the refugees for over two months and has established a crisis coordination center that is continuously monitoring the Syria-Turkey border.

Turkey has also established an animal quarantine center to deal with any animals brought over the border by the Syrian refugees.

In addition, Turkish officials have expressed concern about the possibility of a NATO intervention in Syria, saying such a move would hurt Turkey the most and could spark a serious backlash in the Islamic world.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government.

Hundreds of people have been killed in protest rallies that turned into armed clashes between alleged protesters and state security forces and in organized attacks by armed gangs targeting the Syrian security forces.

Syrian state TV has broadcast reports showing seized weapons caches and confessions by people describing how they obtained arms from foreign sources.

LW - Troops to handle 'anticipated' influx of refugees? First off who is it that is 'anticipating' if not NATO? Secondly aid for refugees is seldom a concern for nations on the periphery... they just throw them into camps and let the UN relief agencies deal with them. It hardly seems likely that they would be calling up retired officers and troops when Turkey already has plenty of men at arms to deal with relatively few 'refugees'. Therefore it would seem that the destabilization of Syria is imminent and Turkey will be NATO's surrogate to invade Syria.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 14, 2011, 11:33:35 AM
NATO plans to arm Syria criminal gangs

Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:15PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193902.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193902.html)

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Weapons seized from Syrian criminal armed gangs (file photo)

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and Turkey are preparing the ground for military intervention in Syria especially through providing criminal Syrian armed gangs with weaponry.

Large caches of weapons including anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles, mortar bombs and heavy machine guns will be sent via ground to major Syrian cities witnessing unrest, according to a report by Debka.

Turkey's military will protect the arms caches on their passage to Syrian rebels.

Syrian rebels have been receiving training inside Turkey to use the weapons for two weeks.

Turkey has warned that it will join any possible military action against neighboring Syria.

On Saturday, Ankara recalled its retired officers to be deployed to cities along the border with Syria. Ankara is a NATO member seeking an EU membership.

More than 1600 people have lost their lives since a wave of unrest gripped Syria five months ago.

Syrian authorities blame foreign-backed armed gangs for the killings. Damascus says as many as 500 soldiers and police officers have been killed by armed groups.

LW - We've certainly come a long way. They foment revolution, death, destruction and regime change and nobody says a word. It's all good as long as they hang the word NATO or US or Israel on overt aggression, directly or by proxy. Obviously the Syrian government has had right all this time. But hey, they're in the crosshairs so they won't be around long enough to be vindicated.
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Post by: laconas on August 14, 2011, 12:42:56 PM
NATO plans to arm Syria criminal gangs

Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:15PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193902.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193902.html)

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Weapons seized from Syrian criminal armed gangs (file photo)

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and Turkey are preparing the ground for military intervention in Syria especially through providing criminal Syrian armed gangs with weaponry.

Large caches of weapons including anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles, mortar bombs and heavy machine guns will be sent via ground to major Syrian cities witnessing unrest, according to a report by Debka.

Turkey's military will protect the arms caches on their passage to Syrian rebels.

Syrian rebels have been receiving training inside Turkey to use the weapons for two weeks.

Turkey has warned that it will join any possible military action against neighboring Syria.

On Saturday, Ankara recalled its retired officers to be deployed to cities along the border with Syria. Ankara is a NATO member seeking an EU membership.

More than 1600 people have lost their lives since a wave of unrest gripped Syria five months ago.

Syrian authorities blame foreign-backed armed gangs for the killings. Damascus says as many as 500 soldiers and police officers have been killed by armed groups.

LW - We've certainly come a long way. They foment revolution, death, destruction and regime change and nobody says a word. It's all good as long as they hang the word NATO or US or Israel on overt aggression, directly or by proxy. Obviously the Syrian government has had right all this time. But hey, they're in the crosshairs so they won't be around long enough to be vindicated.


The Jews can't win this one cause your average Syrian knows what's going on.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 15, 2011, 05:40:20 PM
Turkey warns Syria on military ops.

Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:16PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194110.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194110.html)

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Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu

Turkey has warned the Syrian government to stop military operations aimed at ending the recent unrest in the country “immediately and unconditionally.”

"If these operations do not stop, there will be nothing left to say about the steps that would be taken," Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said on Monday.

"This is our final word to the Syrian authorities, our first expectation is that these operations stop immediately and unconditionally," Today's Zaman quoted Davutoglu as saying.

The Turkish foreign minister stressed Turkey's support for the Syrian people, adding that Ankara has been contacting the Damascus government everyday to demand an end to the crackdown.

Earlier, the Turkish military called up its recently retired officers in anticipation of a massive influx of Syrian refugees along its border with Syria.

The Syrian military has been conducting an operation to combat armed terrorist gangs responsible for the attacks on protesters, security forces and public places.

Syria has been grappling with months of unrest that has left scores of people dead so far.

The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings. But the Syrian government blames armed gangs for the violence, saying that the unrest is being orchestrated from outside the country.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has vowed to bring the people responsible for the killings to justice.

Earlier, President Assad issued a decree which will authorize a multi-party political system in the country. The measure allows new political parties to operate alongside the ruling Ba'ath party -- in power since 1963.

LW - I would be laughing except for the obvious implications of a war in the making. It's clear that Turkey has become a lapdog for NATO, a lapdog to the US which is but a lapdog to the Zionists. They have been sending armed gangs into Syria killing their security people and the civilians and now Turkey (co-conspirators) is giving a warning to Syria? How sick is that? But hey, they are concerned about the Syrian people, just as NATO is so concerned with the Libyan people as they bomb the bejesus out of them.
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Post by: laconas on August 15, 2011, 05:51:56 PM

The Jews probably threatened the Turks with a Kurd uprising. There are 20 million or so Kurds living inside Turkey. And of course this the jew owned military govt. of Turkey speaking; a people's revolution hasn't come to Turkey yet.
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Post by: wag on August 15, 2011, 06:48:35 PM
The Jews probably threatened the Turks with a Kurd uprising. There are 20 million or so Kurds living inside Turkey. And of course this the jew owned military govt. of Turkey speaking; a people's revolution hasn't come to Turkey yet.


Turks know jews too well to be controlled by them.  Turks and jews use each other equally.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 15, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
And of course this the jew owned military govt. of Turkey speaking; a people's revolution hasn't come to Turkey yet.

They made a big deal in public when the Israelis shot up and killed a number of Turks on board the Gaza flotilla. Since then they've said not much at all. It may be that the threat of a Kurdish uprising is being held over their heads but a more likely scenario is the promise of baksheesh and the perks of continued NATO membership... now that NATO has become the de facto Armed Forces of the UN.
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Post by: FrontierJustice on August 15, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
The Turkish military has called up recently retired officers in anticipation of a massive influx of Syrian refugees along its border with Syria.

These refugees are running from the instigated violence of the proxy thugs (mercs) the jews are arming, not the Syrian government. But then if I had half of the jew-run countries in the world threatening my country, I'd be a little spooked too.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 15, 2011, 09:14:26 PM
US, allies stepping up pressure on Syria

Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:49AM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194134.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194134.html)

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White House spokesman Jay Carney

The United States says it is cooperating with its allies to step up the pressure on Syria, although Damascus insists that foreigners are fueling the unrest in the country.

On Monday, White House spokesman Jay Carney said, “We are looking, together with a broad array of international partners, to increase pressure on [Syrian] President [Bashar] Assad,” AFP reported.

Leveling accusations against the Syrian head of state, Carney said, “By his actions he has demonstrated that he has lost legitimacy to lead, and the president has no doubt that Syria will be better off without him.”

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government.

Hundreds of people have been killed in protest rallies that turned into armed clashes between alleged protesters and state security forces and in organized attacks by armed gangs targeting the Syrian security forces.

Washington says the Syrian government is responsible for the current situation in the country.

But the Syrian government says that the chaos is being orchestrated from outside the country and the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.

In addition, Syrian state TV has broadcast reports showing seized weapons caches and confessions by terrorist elements describing how they obtained arms from foreign sources.

US regional allies Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait recalled their ambassadors to Damascus earlier this month, before the White House's threat-laden message.

Political analysts have opined that the moves could be interpreted as a prelude to foreign intervention or even civil war in Syria.

In June, Washington threatened Syria with regime change, with Carney claiming that there had to be a “transition to a more democratic Syria.” “President Assad needs to either lead that transition or get out of the way,” he stated.

LW - US regional allies Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait...

Allies.. who do they think they are fooling? nm... merely another rhetorical question. Funny though... no mention of Turkey. Nice to know that if we juxtapose our fearless leader's 'legitimacy to lead' then on that basis every nation on earth should invade the US. The hypocricy is so in our face words are beginning to fail me.

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Post by: jacob gold on August 16, 2011, 05:53:42 AM
Turkey is Israel's militia - they have one of the most modern armies in the mideast  -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Armed_Forces
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Post by: wag on August 16, 2011, 05:47:23 PM
Turkey is Israel's militia - they have one of the most modern armies in the mideast  -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Armed_Forces

Turkey scares them the most.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on August 17, 2011, 03:37:54 PM
'Syrian refugees raped in Turkish camp'

Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:25PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194419.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194419.html)

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Hundreds of female Syrian refugees have been raped in a camp in southern Turkey and have been forced into prostitution, a report says.

Some 400 Syrian women in Boynuyogun camp in the southern Turkish province of Hatay were forced to work as sex workers, Turkish newspaper Aydinlik has reported.

The scandal was disclosed after some 250 of the raped women obtained a positive result on their pregnancy test.

Abdo Aslaner, the owner of the land where the camp is set up, took the female Syrian refugees out of the camp and forced them into prostitution, according to the report.

Thousands of Syrians living in villages near the border had crossed into Turkey to seek shelter following the launch of an operation by Syrian security forces in border cities and villages to hunt down armed gangs.

After security had been restored in the region, hundreds of Syrian refugees returned to their homes.

The Syrian military has been conducting an operation to combat armed terrorist gangs responsible for the attacks on protesters, security forces and public places.

Syria has been grappling with months of unrest that has left scores of people dead so far.

The opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings. But the Syrian government blames armed gangs for the violence, saying that the unrest is being orchestrated from outside the country.

LW - And they plan on sending more troops to the border to help out raping the refugees.
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Post by: laconas on August 18, 2011, 01:28:32 PM

Quote
"Bachmann urged the president to stand up for the region's U.S. ally Israel by taking the lead against the brutal regime."

Bachmann says Obama ain't doing enough for Israel.




Bachmann says Obama is leading from behind on Syria

   By: CNN Political Producer Shawna Shepherd

Columbia, South Carolina (CNN) - Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann said the president's call for Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad to step down is another example of Barack Obama leading from behind on foreign policy.


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Following a rally in downtown Columbia, the Minnesota congresswoman read a prepared statement to reporters that said in part, "The president should have acted weeks ago to call on President Assad to step down when his regime started slaughtering and oppressing his own Syrian people. By this count now it's thousands of Syrians."


U.S. authorities resisted calling explicitly for Assad to step down from power until Thursday. The public statements from Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were closely coordinated with European, Turkish and Arab allies, significantly ratcheting up international pressure against a regime that has been criticized for its harsh crackdown against anti-government protesters in recent months.

Bachmann urged the president to stand up for the region's U.S. ally Israel by taking the lead against the brutal regime.

"The president has taken his eye off of Syria and Iran, which unfortunately has strengthened their adventurism," she said. "I strongly condemn Syrian President Assad's brutal use of force against his own people and I urge President Assad to step down immediately."

The presidential candidate also called on President Obama to expel the Syrian ambassador from the United States and withdraw the U.S. ambassador to Syria.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/18/bachmann-says-obama-is-leading-from-behind-on-syria/
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Post by: laconas on August 18, 2011, 01:33:43 PM

Kinda related.



The Michele Bachmann staffer arrested for alleged terrorism 'after being found with assault rifles in Africa'


By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 7:45 AM on 18th August 2011

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027250/Michele-Bachmann-staffer-Peter-E-Waldron-arrested-alleged-terrorism-Africa.html#ixzz1VQ0wZCBy
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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 18, 2011, 09:05:09 PM
Kinda related.

The Michele Bachmann staffer arrested for alleged terrorism 'after being found with assault rifles in Africa'


Joo Waldron was working in Uganda to improve info-tech, just like Nicholas Berg was supposedly a free-lancer working in Iraq to create telecom companies when crazy Muslims caught him & sliced off his head.
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Post by: laconas on August 18, 2011, 09:15:29 PM
Joo Waldron was working in Uganda to improve info-tech, just like Nicholas Berg was supposedly a free-lancer working in Iraq to create telecom companies when crazy Muslims caught him & sliced off his head.

How did a nice girl like Michele ever get involved with a bunch gun running mercenaries. Musta been all those trips she took to Israel as a teenager.
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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 18, 2011, 11:47:07 PM
How did a nice girl like Michele ever get involved with a bunch gun running mercenaries. Musta been all those trips she took to Israel as a teenager.

Carpenter bees like to make nests in wood yet are mild-mannered & unobtrusive.  New candidates need mass volunteer help & don't have time to scrutinize them.  Repubs are secretly flustered by Obama's outstanding record of new African/Western Asia/Central Asia wars.  Nobody in American history can equal Obummer's record of creating world-wide chaos for the Joos.  Repubs have lost their default advantage of "national security" & their austerity is hardly a poll winner.
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Post by: FrankDialogue on August 19, 2011, 06:27:13 AM
Carpenter bees like to make nests in wood yet are mild-mannered & unobtrusive.  New candidates need mass volunteer help & don't have time to scrutinize them.  Repubs are secretly flustered by Obama's outstanding record of new African/Western Asia/Central Asia wars.  Nobody in American history can equal Obummer's record of creating world-wide chaos for the Joos.  Repubs have lost their default advantage of "national security" & their austerity is hardly a poll winner.

I'm in a bad mood this morning and this made me laugh, or should I say smirk.

BTW, Bachmann is an idiot: What would she suggest, invading Syria?
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Post by: EyeBelieve on August 22, 2011, 07:34:01 PM
I'm in a bad mood this morning and this made me laugh, or should I say smirk.

BTW, Bachmann is an idiot: What would she suggest, invading Syria?

Well if she's the XianZio leader that she claims to be, why not suggest invading Syria?  Shouldn't we invade all countries bordering the Holy Land?  :-[
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Post by: jacob gold on August 23, 2011, 09:35:20 AM
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It seems these resistance fighters forgot their guns
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on September 16, 2011, 09:10:47 AM
Armed men attack Syrian troops, kill 1

Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:31PM GMT
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Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March and hundreds of people, including security troops, have been killed during the unrest.
Armed groups have killed a Syrian law enforcement agent and injured four others in the southern province of Dara'a, SANA reported.


According to the official Syrian news agency, terrorists attacked government troops in Basr al-Harir district of the province on Friday as they were conducting a security patrol.

Limited gatherings were also reported in the suburbs of the northern Idlib Province and in the central city of Homs.

Meanwhile, the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights has announced that 11 people have been killed in the fresh clashes across Syria.

According to Syrian officials 1,400 people, including 700 security forces, have been killed since the beginning of unrest in the country in mid-March.

While the opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings, the government blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on September 16, 2011, 03:07:48 PM
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According to the official Syrian news agency, terrorists attacked government troops in Basr al-Harir district of the province on Friday as they were conducting a security patrol.

probably just merc snipers
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on September 18, 2011, 07:36:04 PM
Assad slams foreign plot against Syria

Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:26AM GMT
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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad holds talks with the Russian delegation

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has warned that foreign intervention in Syria will divide the region and increase extremism.

Assad said in Damascus on Sunday that certain foreign powers are making efforts to undermine Syria's stability, but praised Russia's constructive role in the Middle East region, the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) reported.

The Syrian president added that every reformative step the government took was met with further violence, more foreign pressure and attempts of interference in the country's internal affairs.

He explained that some foreign elements are trying to weaken Syria by supporting terrorists, who are targeting civilians, members of police, army and other security forces in the country.

The president made the remarks during a meeting with the Russian Federation Council delegation headed by the Council's Deputy Chairman Ilyas Umakhanov.

The delegation members lauded historical relations between Russia and Syria and reiterated Moscow's support for the political reforms Damascus is adopting.

The Russian delegation also rejected any kind of foreign interference in the internal affairs of Syria.

President Assad hailed the balanced and helpful Russian stance towards the development of events in Syria.

Syrian officials say 1,400 people, including 700 security forces, have been killed since the beginning of unrest in the country in mid-March.

The Syrian government blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorists for the violence while the opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings in the country.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: AngelOfLight on September 18, 2011, 07:38:43 PM
Of all the leaders of the Muslim countries Assad is the only one that I respect!
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on September 18, 2011, 07:43:37 PM
Of all the leaders of the Muslim countries Assad is the only one that I respect!

Well, we'll see whether his faith in the Russians is warranted. They seem to have a knack for sitting on the sidelines in this last decade. Except for the obvious western attempt to destabilize Georgia. But that was on their turf, a point the west could not help but take note of.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on September 18, 2011, 08:08:59 PM
Well, we'll see whether his faith in the Russians is warranted. They seem to have a knack for sitting on the sidelines in this last decade. Except for the obvious western attempt to destabilize Georgia. But that was on their turf, a point the west could not help but take note of.

Will the Russians risk the Jews bluff and risk an all out nuclear war if they back Syria with a constant supply of weapons and troops when the war get's hot?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: AngelOfLight on September 18, 2011, 08:17:47 PM
Well, we'll see whether his faith in the Russians is warranted. They seem to have a knack for sitting on the sidelines in this last decade. Except for the obvious western attempt to destabilize Georgia. But that was on their turf, a point the west could not help but take note of.


Unless Syria is willing to give land to Russians they are not going to help them, the only reason they helped Ossetia is because they knew they could take over it once the idiot in Georgia made the fatal mistake and gave Russia a reason to intervene!

But Syria has more to fear from Turkey ten they have to fear from Russia!
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on September 28, 2011, 02:58:46 PM
'Russia against UNSC resolution on Syria'

Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:36PM GMT
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov

Russia says it will not support any UN Security Council draft resolution against the Syrian government proposed by the Western countries.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Tuesday that “the US and the EU have imposed unilateral sanctions on Damascus without holding any consultations with Moscow and now they want us to support their stance, which contradicts principles of partnership,” Syrian official news agency, SANA, reported.

Describing the US-backed sanctions against Syria as non-constructive, Lavrov criticized the Western attitude of imposing sanctions on Damascus without making known what is next as "an irresponsible attitude."

The top Russian diplomat also repeated a Moscow threat to veto any UN resolution allowing the use of force in Syria.

''We have had a bad experience with that ... and we will not allow it again,” Lavrov said, referring to a March UN Security Council resolution allowing the use of force in Libya to protect civilians, which left thousands of Libyans dead.

Russia has repeatedly called on Western powers not to intervene in Syria's internal affairs, saying that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad should be given more time to implement reforms.

Meanwhile, European countries proposing a new UN resolution against Damascus have dropped calls for immediate sanctions against the Syrian government following veto threats from Security Council members China and Russia.

It is widely believed that the scaled-back version is aimed at winning the support of veto-wielding Russia and China, which oppose sanctions against Syria.

Since the beginning of unrest in Syria, the US and the EU have imposed harsh sanctions on Damascus, targeting industry, business and energy sectors.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March and hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed in the violence.

While the opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings, the government blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on September 28, 2011, 03:09:29 PM

Sounds like the invasion of Syria isn't too far off.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on September 28, 2011, 03:52:33 PM
'Russia against UNSC resolution on Syria'

While the opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings, the government blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Senior MP Views Unrests in Syria as "US-Israeli Plot"

TEHRAN (FNA)- A prominent Iranian lawmaker took Washington and Tel Aviv responsible for the recent unrests in Syria, and stressed that the plot is aimed at undermining the front of resistance against the Zionist regime in the region.
   
"Given all the bitter events that have been happened in Syria, we believe that incidents in that country aimed to create anarchy and were fully directed by the US and the world Zionism," Member of the parliament's Presiding Board Mohammad Dehqan told FNA on Friday.

He reminded that the US and Israel have tested a similar method in Iran but their plot was defused due to the vigilance of the Iranian nation and Ayatollah Khamenei's wise leadership.

As regards the objectives and goals pursued by the US and Israel, Dehqan pointed to the formation of an anti-US and anti-Zionist resistance front in the region, and added that the arrogant powers are trying to hit a blow at this resistance front through undermining the arch foes of the United States and Israel.

Earlier this month, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lambasted Washington for threatening the Syrian government, and said such pressures are exerted on Damascus in a bid to save the Zionist regime and protect the US interests in the Middle-East.

"Today, US President (Barack Obama) openly threatens Syria's President (Bashar al-Assad); this is an obvious interference and it is certainly not intended for helping the Syrian people," Ahmadinejad said in an interview with Portugal's RTP channel.

The president reiterated that such threats are aimed at saving "the Zionist regime" and protecting the US interests in the strategic Middle East region.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March with organized attacks by well-armed gangs against Syrian police forces and border guards being reported across the country.

Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed, when some protest rallies turned into armed clashes.

The government blames outlaws, saboteurs, and armed terrorist groups for the deaths, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Syrian state TV has also broadcast reports and images of seizure of arms caches and confessions by terrorist elements, and displayed how they obtained weaponry from foreign sources.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9006230298
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on September 28, 2011, 05:25:26 PM
I think 'took' s/b held Washington and Tel Aviv responsible. There are a couple more errors you will notice...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on September 29, 2011, 10:40:05 AM
Syria condemns US calls for violence

Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:19PM GMT

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US State Department Spokesman Mark Toner

Syria has condemned remarks by a US State Department spokesman, saying Washington is inciting acts of violence against the country's army forces.

"Comments by American officials, notably Mark Toner, are striking proof that the United States encourages armed groups to commit violence against the Syrian Arab army," AFP quoted a Syrian Foreign Ministry statement as saying on Thursday.

At a press briefing on Monday, Toner said it came as no surprise that weapons were being sent to Syria's anti-government forces and described use violence against the military as “an act of self-preservation.”

The Syrian Foreign Ministry attacked Toner for “describing these terrorist acts as natural,” and condemned the “irresponsible” remarks for encouraging acts of terrorism and chaos in order to serve foreign goals against the interests of Syrians.

"Syria condemns strongly the US statements and affirms its determination to preserve its security and stability, to defend its citizens and to oppose all attempts to interfere in its internal affairs," the ministry said in its statement.

The Syrian government's protest against the remarks made by the US officials comes as the anti-US sentiment has grown among the Syrian public.

Angry protesters stormed the US embassy in Damascus on July 11 after Washington's envoy Robert Ford visited the central city of Hama, a flashpoint for protests against President Bashar al-Assad's government.

Syrian protesters pelted Ford with eggs and tomatoes on Thursday when he arrived at the US mission's building in the capital, Damascus. He was reportedly scheduled to hold a clandestine meeting with an outlawed opposition leader.

On September 6, Ford angered many in Syria after he strongly accusing Assad's government of using force against anti-government demonstrators in a statement posted on Facebook.

Back in July, Ford's visit to the flashpoint city of Hama sparked a furor among Syrian officials, who accused him of meeting with "saboteurs" during his visit.

Syria has seen deadly violence since mid-March with organized attacks by armed gangs against police and army forces and border guards being reported across the country.

Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the tension.

Damascus says that the unrest is being orchestrated from outside the country and that the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.

Syria state TV has also broadcast reports and images of seizure of arms caches and confessions by terrorist elements, pointing to how they obtained weaponry from foreign sources.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on September 29, 2011, 10:48:14 AM

I know they won't, but Jews would be smart to back-off Syria. Sure they can afford to hire thugs, but in the end they are losing the PR game with all of the Arab street and exposing what they do in the most lucid fashion.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on September 29, 2011, 12:04:35 PM
Stones, tomatoes, eggs hurled but no bagels...

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ASSAD MEN HURL TOMATOES AT US ENVOY

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Assad with ambassador Ford

Supporters of President Bashar Assad have stoned the convoy of the US ambassador to Syria as he arrived for a meeting with a leading opposition figure.

Supporters of President Bashar Assad have stoned the convoy of the US ambassador to Syria as he arrived for a meeting with a leading opposition figure.

They then pelted him with eggs and tomatoes and tried to break into the building while he was inside.

The American envoy was trapped in the office for three hours by the angry mob outside.

Ambassador Robert Ford, an outspoken critic of Assad's crackdown on the six-month-old anti-government uprising, was unharmed and eventually escorted out by Syrian security forces, who arrived more than an hour after the attack began.

He was meeting Hassan Abdul-Azim, who heads the outlawed Arab Socialist Democratic Union party.

Mr Ford has angered the Syrian regime in past months by visiting a couple of the protest centres outside of Damascus in a show of solidarity with the anti-government uprising.

The latest incident could further raise tensions between Washington and Damascus, which has accused the United States of helping incite violence in Syria. In August, President Barack Obama (the man who says US unemployed should hire a lawyer and sue...) demanded Mr Assad resign, saying he had lost his legitimacy as a ruler.

"A crowd of demonstrators tried to assault Ambassador Ford and embassy colleagues today as they went about doing the normal work of any embassy," US State Department spokesman Mark Toner said in Washington.

He said the ambassador went to a meeting with "a well-known Syrian political figure," adding that Mr Ford and his staff were back safe at the US Embassy.

"The mob was violent. It tried, unsuccessfully, to attack embassy personnel while they were inside several embassy vehicles, seriously damaging the vehicles in the process," said Mr Toner. "Syrian security officers finally assisted in securing a path from the ambassador's meeting for him and his aides back to the embassy."

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/274445/Assad-men-hurl-tomatoes-at-US-envoy (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/274445/Assad-men-hurl-tomatoes-at-US-envoy)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 02, 2011, 04:48:15 PM
Terror spate claims more Syrian victims

Mon Oct 3, 2011 12:39AM GMT
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Syria's Grand Mufti Ahmad Badreddin Hassoun (L) and his slain son Saria (file photo)

Armed terrorists have killed the son of Syria's grand mufti together with a Syrian university professor, making the two the latest victims of a new wave of assassinations, which has hit the country.

On Sunday, an armed terrorist group ambushed Saria, son of the leading clergy, Ahmad Badreddin Hassoun, and professor of history at Aleppo University, Mohammad al-Omar, while the two were accompanying each other on the way to the university in the northwest of the country, Syria's state Arab News Agency (SANA) reported.

A police source in the northwestern city of Idleb said the terrorists had attacked the two near the Ebla University on the Idleb-Aleppo highway.

The spate of targeted kilings, which has targeted high-profile figures across the country, started late last week. Since last Sunday, seven noted figures, including five top academicians, have been assassinated in the country.

On Wednesday, terrorists killed nuclear engineer and university professor, Aws Abdel Karim Khalil, and Tayssir al-Oqla, a senior security officer, respectively in the western cities of Homs and Hama.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March with organized attacks by well-armed gangs against Syrian police forces and border guards being reported across the country.

Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the tension.

Damascus says that the unrest is being orchestrated from outside the country and that the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.

Meanwhile, members of the newly-formed self-titled opposition, Syrian National Council, met in Istanbul in northwestern Turkey on Sunday. They announced their vision for a Syria, which they say is to emerge after the current tensions has toppled Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

In addition to providing support for Assad's opponents, Ankara has been adopting a harsh tone with the Syrian head of state, considering him responsible for the current unease in Syria.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on October 02, 2011, 06:29:33 PM

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ASSAD MEN HURL TOMATOES AT US ENVOY

The jew henchman is supplying weapons and training and killing Syrians.

Arabs are not really violent.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sceptic on October 04, 2011, 10:20:23 PM
Well, we'll see whether his faith in the Russians is warranted. They seem to have a knack for sitting on the sidelines in this last decade. Except for the obvious western attempt to destabilize Georgia. But that was on their turf, a point the west could not help but take note of.

Russia vetoes UN resolution against Syria
By EDITH M. LEDERER - Associated Press

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — Russia and China vetoed a European-backed U.N. Security Council resolution Tuesday that threatened sanctions against Syria if it didn't immediately halt its military crackdown against civilians.

It would have been the first legally binding resolution adopted by the Security Council since President Bashar Assad's military began using tanks and soldiers against protesters in mid-March. Its defeat reflects the deep divisions in the U.N.'s most powerful body over how to address the ongoing violence in Syria, which the U.N. estimates has led to more than 2,700 deaths.

The European sponsors of the resolution tried to avoid a veto by watering down the language on sanctions three times, to the point where the word "sanctions" was taken out, but they failed.

The vote was 9-2 with four abstentions — India, South Africa, Brazil and Lebanon.

It was the first double veto by Russia and China since July 2008 when they vetoed proposed sanctions against Zimbabwe. In January 2007, they also vetoed a resolution calling on Myanmar to release all political prisoners, initiate a wide-ranging dialogue and end military attacks and human rights abuses.

Russia's U.N. Ambassador Vitaly Churkin told the council after the vote that his country did not support the Assad regime or the violence but opposed the resolution because it was "based on a philosophy of confrontation," contained "an ultimatum of sanctions" and was against a peaceful settlement of a crisis. He also complained that the resolution did not call for the Syrian opposition to disassociate itself from "extremists" and enter into dialogue.

China's Ambassador Li Bandong said his country is concerned about the ongoing violence and wants to see speedy reforms but opposed the resolution because "sanctions, or threat of sanctions, do not help the situation in Syria but rather complicates the situation."

Supporters of the resolution expressed disappointment and outrage.

France's U.N. Ambassador Gerard Araud called the veto "a rejection of the extraordinary movement in support of freedom and democracy that is the Arab Spring" and commended "all of those who fight against the bloodthirsty crackdown in Syria."

Britain's U.N. Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant said the veto "will be a great disappointment to the people of Syria and the wider region that some members of this council could not show their support for their struggle for basic human rights."

"By blocking this resolution, the onus is now on those countries to step up their efforts and persuade the Syrian government to end the violence and pursue genuine reform," he said.

U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice said "the courageous people of Syria can now clearly see who on this council supports their yearning for liberty and human rights — and who does not."

"Those who oppose this resolution and give cover to a brutal regime will have to answer to the Syrian people — and, indeed, to people across the region who are pursuing the same universal aspirations," she said. "The crisis in Syria will stay before the Security Council, and we will not rest until this council rises to meet its responsibilities."

Rice accused Russia and China of wanting to sell arms to the Syrian regime rather than stand with the Syrian people — an accusation vehemently denied by Russia's Churkin.

From the outset of the Syrian uprising, the council has been split.

Western members, backed by some African and Latin American nations, demanded an end to violence, and when it was not heeded they pushed for Security Council action, including the threat of sanctions. On the other side, Russia, China and the newly emerging global powers — Brazil, India and South Africa — pressed for more time for the Assad government to implement reforms and for political dialogue with the opposition and strongly opposed even mentioning sanctions.

It took four months of arguments between supporters and opponents of Assad's regime for the Security Council to issue a presidential statement in August condemning the escalating violence.

Britain, France, Germany and Portugal, backed by the United States, then pressed for a council resolution calling for an immediate arms embargo and other sanctions aimed at stopping the Assad government's crackdown on protesters.

But Russia, China, India, South Africa and Brazil opposed that sanctions resolution. They argue the U.N. resolution authorizing the use of force to protect civilians in Libya was misused by NATO to justify months of air strikes against Moammar Gadhafi's regime and expressed fear a new resolution might be used as a pretext for armed intervention against Syria.

The final watered-down draft that was voted on and defeated demanded that Syria immediately end violence, allow fundamental rights and freedoms, lift all media restrictions and allow unhindered access for human rights investigators.

It expressed the council's intention to review Syria's implementation of these demands within 30 days, and "to consider its options, including measures under Article 41 of the Charter of the United Nations."

Article 41 authorizes the council to impose nonmilitary measures which can include economic and diplomatic sanctions.

The draft also would have strongly condemned "the continued grave and systematic human rights violations and the use of force against civilians by the Syrian authorities" and called on all states "to exercise vigilance and restraint" in supplying weapons to Syria.

Syria's U.N. Ambassador Bashar Ja'afari, the last speaker after the vote, criticized "the prejudice in certain Western capitals against our country" and insisted a comprehensive package of reforms is now being implemented by the government, "enhancing the democratic process."

Without naming the U.S., Ja'afari said that it used its Security Council veto 50 times since 1945 to protect Israel and deny the Palestinians their rights.

Therefore, he said, it could be considered a party to "genocide, as this language is tantamount to turning a blind eye and supporting the Israeli massacres in occupied Arab lands."

As he spoke, U.S. diplomats led by Rice walked out of the council chamber.

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Associated Press Writer Anita Snow contributed to this report from the United Nations

(This version CORRECTS Corrects in paragraph 5 that last Russia-China veto was on a Zimbabwe resolution in 2008. For global distribution.)

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-vetoes-un-resolution-against-syria-225913424.html (http://news.yahoo.com/russia-vetoes-un-resolution-against-syria-225913424.html)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sceptic on October 04, 2011, 10:29:22 PM
Arabs are not really violent.

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Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Brezo on October 05, 2011, 03:04:42 AM
Of all the leaders of the Muslim countries Assad is the only one that I respect!

Assad is as muslim as I am

the middle east game plan is quite apparent: Overthrow the moderate, secular governments of the region and replace them with radical islamists.

Iraq - Saddam kept the kurds and radical Shia in check with brutal force while modernizing his country. Christians held high positions in the Baath party.  Now the Shia are in control of the nation and the 'kurdistan' smuggling routes are open for business and controlled by the mossad.

Egypt - Mubarak kept the cia created muslim brotherhood leadership in jail cells. We had a 'facebook revolution' and now the muslim brotherhood are taking control.

Libya - NATO has and is still in the process of decimating their nation so that islamic rebels affiliated with al-quada, the supposed perpetrators of 9/11, can rule the country.

Syria - Once again well armed and funded radical Islamists, including the cia-muslim brotherhood, are attempting to topple an independent nation. Is it a coincidence that the terror attacks are occurring along the border of a NATO country?

When our good christian soldiers brought democracy to Iraq the Christian community had to flee from persecution to Syria where they were welcomed with open arms. In fact, Assad has been praised for how his nation accepted them. I wonder how many pro-military xians know or care about that?

Turkey - Erdogan's tough talk to Israel about a military confrontation is just that, talk. It is a distraction and is leading up to a border incursion by the Turks into Syria. The islamic terrorists trying to overthrow Syria are based in Turkey. Turkey is a member of NATO, which means the military is under complete control of the United States. When or If Syria goes to war with the zionist entity the 'allies' will attack from turkey. Israel will be protected from missile strikes by the NATO missile shield based in Turkey.

By installing radical muslim governments in the middle east, it will lead to the fulfillment of the 3rd great world war predicted by Albert Pike in Morals and Dogma, or the battle of armegeddon.  The judeo-masonic clique will have their two opposing death cults, the christians and muslims, fight a war over jerusalem.
Title: 'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria
Post by: laconas on October 05, 2011, 06:43:17 AM

Madame Rice and the good Christians at the Christian Science Monitor are outraged that Russia and China don't want to bring democracy to Syria.


Christian Science Monitor


'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria


Russia and China's vetoes of a UN resolution against Syria's regime illustrate a stark divide on the role the international community should play in the Arab Spring.

By Ariel Zirulnick, Staff writer / October 5, 2011

China and Russia on Tuesday vetoed a UN Security Council resolution targeting Syria, despite efforts by the US and Europe to ensure its passage by significantly watering down the resolution's language. The veto is the strongest signal yet of the stark divide among council members over how much of a role the international community should play amid the Arab world's upheaval.

“The US is outraged that this council has utterly failed to address an urgent moral challenge and a growing threat to regional peace and security,” said the American ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice. "Today the courageous people of Syria can now see who on this council supports their yearning for liberty and universal human rights and who does not."


The resolution had initially included sanctions and an arms embargo, but the final version put before the Security Council merely threatened "other options" if Syria did not comply with demands to end the use of violence against civilians and release political prisoners, the Washington Post reports.

Syria 101: 4 attributes of Assad's authoritarian regime

Russian UN envoy Vitaly Churkin and Chinese UN ambassador Li Baodong said their countries were concerned the resolution would make the situation in Syria worse and be used as a pretext for regime change, the Post reports.
A history of vetoing sanctions

China and Russia have not issued a double veto since July 2008, when they nixed sanctions against Zimbabwe. In January 2007, they vetoed a resolution against the Burmese regime, according to the Associated Press.

The council has been split on Syria since the country's uprising began in March. Russia and China – backed by nonpermanent council members Brazil, India, and South Africa – have consistently blocked assertive US and European action on Syria. The first council action on Syria didn't come until August, and even then it was merely a statement condemning the regime for violence, the AP reports.

When that passed, the US and Europe immediately began pushing for the resolution with an arms embargo and sanctions. But Russia, which has repeatedly criticized the West for overstepping the UN resolution that authorized military intervention in Libya, has balked.

“The situation in Syria cannot be considered in the council apart from the Libyan experience,” said Mr. Churkin, according to Bloomberg.

More....

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2011/1005/A-cheap-ruse-US-slams-Russia-and-China-for-vetoing-UN-resolution-on-Syria
Title: - 'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria
Post by: laconas on October 05, 2011, 06:50:41 AM

China and Russia think this UN resolution is a trick to take-over Syria.


China, Russia uphold peaceful approach by vetoing Syria draft resolution

English.news.cn   2011-10-05 18:22:40    



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Chinese Permanent Representative to the United Nations Li Baodong (C) votes against the draft resolution on Syria during a UN Security Council meeting at the UN headquarters in New York Oct. 4, 2011. The draft resolution, presented by Britain, France, Germany and Portugal, won nine votes in favor, two against and four abstentions on Tuesday. (Xinhua/Shen Hong) (wn)

by Gu Zhenqiu

UNITED NATIONS, Oct. 4 (Xinhua) -- Russia and China on Tuesday vetoed a UN draft resolution on Syria, in their efforts to uphold the principle of non-interference and maintain peace and stability in the Middle East.

Speaking at an open Security Council meeting after the vote, China and Russia said the proposed measures in the draft resolution were neither conducive to the peaceful settlement of the Syrian question nor helpful to efforts to bring peace and security to the country.

The draft resolution, tabled by France, Britain, Germany and Portugal, was seen as a tool to interfere in Syria's internal affairs, as it only advocated sanctions or threat of sanctions against Syria and made no reference to any measures encouraging a peaceful settlement through dialogues among all the parties concerned.

Non-interference is one of the fundamental principles enshrined in the UN Charter and also included in the Five Principles of Peaceful Co-existence. Intervention in a sovereign country's internal affairs is detrimental to the peaceful settlement of its problems.

And it is universally accepted that any action by the Security Council, which shoulders the primary responsibility of maintaining peace and security in the world at large, should be conducive to the peaceful settlement of disputes, rather than further complicate the situation on the ground.

Just as Vitaly Churkin, Russia's permanent representative to the UN, put it at the Security Council: "Today's refused draft was based on... the philosophy of confrontation."

"This approach is against the principle of peaceful settlement of the crisis on the basis of a full Syrian national dialogue," Churkin said.

Meanwhile, the draft's proponents failed to pay due attention to the reasonable concerns of Russia and China that the proposed punitive measures would be counterproductive.

Many observers said that an intervention in Syria would likely plunge the Middle Eastern country into a civil war, which would then damage not only the well-being of the Syrian people but the peace and stability of the whole region.

"The present draft resolution just means to impose pressure on Syria and even threaten to use sanctions against it. This is not conducive to easing the tension in Syria," said Chinese permanent representative to the UN Li Baodong when explaining why China is against the draft.

In addition, Russia's reservation also comes from the fear that NATO would seek to replicate the Libya intervention in Syria.

"The international community is alarmed by statements that compliance with Security Council resolutions in Libya in the NATO interpretation is a model for future actions of NATO in implementing responsibility to protect," Churkin said.

At the current stage, many believe that the top priority is to facilitate an early start of an inclusive political dialogue in Syria. The Syrian government has proposed a political process to restore peace and stability in the country.

Both Churkin and Li voiced the hope that the parties in Syria would exercise restraint, avoid any form of violence and act quickly to ease tensions.

Syria has been wracked by six months of unrest, which the Syrian government blames on foreign conspiracy and armed thugs. A recent UN statement put the number of civilians killed over the past half year in Syria at 2,700, while Syria said foreign-backed armed gangs had killed 700 security officers.
Editor: Wang Guanqun
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on October 05, 2011, 08:20:25 AM
Assad is as muslim as I am

the middle east game plan is quite apparent: Overthrow the moderate, secular governments of the region and replace them with radical islamists.

Very succinct reply Brezo.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on October 05, 2011, 08:53:50 AM
Assad is as muslim as I am

the middle east game plan is quite apparent: Overthrow the moderate, secular governments of the region and replace them with radical islamists.

Yes, and they use the exact same excuse every time. X is killing his own people. Saddam however was disgusting in his brutality and cowardly tactics in the Iran-Iraq war, and was too arrogant to not realize he would be betrayed later like the Shah was. It's always amusing when I see Carter arguing for a 2 state solution when that punk b*tch did nothing to help in '79.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on October 05, 2011, 09:57:45 AM
Yes, and they use the exact same excuse every time. X is killing his own people. Saddam however was disgusting in his brutality and cowardly tactics in the Iran-Iraq war, and was too arrogant to not realize he would be betrayed later like the Shah was. It's always amusing when I see Carter arguing for a 2 state solution when that punk b*tch did nothing to help in '79.

The power of Propaganda!!! It works like a charm. Saddam (who was probably no more of angel than O'Bummer is) was being demonized, like all others the ''THEY'' want to get rid off. Think precious resources!!!
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on October 05, 2011, 03:13:22 PM
The power of Propaganda!!! It works like a charm. Saddam (who was probably no more of angel than O'Bummer is) was being demonized, like all others the ''THEY'' want to get rid off. Think precious resources!!!

Propaganda is power, but so is having everyone dumb.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 05, 2011, 03:14:47 PM
Propaganda is power, but so is having everyone dumb.

I think the first produces the latter.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on October 05, 2011, 03:24:22 PM
I think the first produces the latter.

I'm not sure regarding the US. There was always some propaganda but it was more cool to be dumb and dropping out of life before the war on terrists.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on October 05, 2011, 06:47:19 PM
the middle east game plan is quite apparent: Overthrow the moderate, secular governments of the region and replace them with radical islamists.

By installing radical muslim governments in the middle east, it will lead to the fulfillment of the 3rd great world war predicted by Albert Pike in Morals and Dogma, or the battle of armegeddon.  The judeo-masonic clique will have their two opposing death cults, the christians and muslims, fight a war over jerusalem.

Good points; also the islamic fundie gov'ts tend to be more backward, helping to keep those countries weak & dependent on imports.
Title: - 'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on October 05, 2011, 08:05:13 PM

'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria

By Ariel Zirulnick, Staff writer / October 5, 2011

Perhaps Russia & China are getting a lick in ahead of planned US veto of Pali statehood?

Aren't there enough Christian Scientists to staff their paper w/o hiring Joos?  BTW who has paid the big bill for CSM & Reading Rooms?  CS maintains a big building 1 block south of White House.  Could it be that Joos helped fund CSM/CS as a means for controlled-opposition & also to help portray Christians as flaky? 

Christian Scientists were proud of their paper:  it 'punched over it's weight' (compared to small # of Christian Scientists) & had a 'good reputation'.  Did they ever bother to consider the paper's bias?  I never subscribed but OTOH AFAIK the paper never made a particular effort to promote Christian Science per se.
Title: - 'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria
Post by: laconas on October 05, 2011, 08:27:03 PM
Perhaps Russia & China are getting a lick in ahead of planned US veto of Pali statehood?

Aren't there enough Christian Scientists to staff their paper w/o hiring Joos?  BTW who has paid the big bill for CSM & Reading Rooms?  CS maintains a big building 1 block south of White House.  Could it be that Joos helped fund CSM/CS as a means for controlled-opposition & also to help portray Christians as flaky? 

Christian Scientists were proud of their paper:  it 'punched over it's weight' (compared to small # of Christian Scientists) & had a 'good reputation'.  Did they ever bother to consider the paper's bias?  I never subscribed but OTOH AFAIK the paper never made a particular effort to promote Christian Science per se.

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By Ariel Zirulnick, Staff writer

Maybe Ariel Zirulnick is a Christian Scientist? ::)

It's starting to look like there's going to be an invasion of Syria in the very near future. They're not going to allow this opportunity to pass them by.
Title: - 'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on October 05, 2011, 09:33:08 PM
Maybe Ariel Zirulnick is a Christian Scientist? ::)

It's starting to look like there's going to be an invasion of Syria in the very near future. They're not going to allow this opportunity to pass them by.

Hmm, I dunno.  From Israeli POV there wouldn't seem to be much benefit.  Yeah the killed Hariri to chase Syria out of Lebanon but a Syrian coup, as with the Egyptian coup doesn't help Israel.  Israel had pretty good relations with Assad & Mubarak regimes & don't seem to have interest into expanding into Egypt or Syria.

Arab Spring is pretty much an London/Wall St thing.  Syria is so close to "Holy Land" that London can't use the blatant intervention as in Libya.  Russia would be pissed.
Title: - 'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria
Post by: Spahi on October 05, 2011, 09:48:55 PM
Hmm, I dunno.  From Israeli POV there wouldn't seem to be much benefit.  Yeah the killed Hariri to chase Syria out of Lebanon but a Syrian coup, as with the Egyptian coup doesn't help Israel.  Israel had pretty good relations with Assad & Mubarak regimes & don't seem to have interest into expanding into Egypt or Syria.

I see plenty of benefit for Israel when surrounded by weak "Islamic" based regimes because it gives them the perfect casus belli to attack whoever they want. As for Syria, it being allied with Iran doesn't help.
Title: - 'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on October 05, 2011, 11:29:54 PM
I see plenty of benefit for Israel when surrounded by weak "Islamic" based regimes because it gives them the perfect casus belli to attack whoever they want. As for Syria, it being allied with Iran doesn't help.

Israeli youth are spoiled brats who prefer to party in Thailand & Florida vs big fights.  Syria & Egypt don't have huge amount of oil (AFAIK) to steal.  Israel scored big with Iraqi oil but Syria & Egypt don't give a big payoff, Iran is too distant.  Izzies IMO deliberately lost vs Lebanon's Hezbollah 'cause they don't have the guts anymore to maintain occupation against a serious enemy.
Title: - 'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria
Post by: mallard on October 05, 2011, 11:42:09 PM
In a rare glimpse at opposing thought, one Russian envoy pointed to the problems with the regime change strategy, such as total mayhem resulting in places like Iraq, Egypt and Libya.  It's hardly a ruse! 
Title: - 'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria
Post by: Brezo on October 06, 2011, 12:03:27 AM
Hmm, I dunno.  From Israeli POV there wouldn't seem to be much benefit.  Yeah the killed Hariri to chase Syria out of Lebanon but a Syrian coup, as with the Egyptian coup doesn't help Israel.  Israel had pretty good relations with Assad & Mubarak regimes & don't seem to have interest into expanding into Egypt or Syria.


Your right. There isn't much benefit to a Syrian meltdown from the POV of a sane, rational people, but we are in "end times' and there are many "unfulfilled prophecies".

Isaiah 17: 1
The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

If strong, cosmopolitan leaders like Assad and Admadinajad are left in power the jews risk greater bilateral ties between BRIC nations and Iran and Syria. This would force moderate European governments to engage rather than confront.

On the other hand, if mossad/cia sponsored islamic groups take power NATO can wage a war against terror without the threat of a Russian or Chinese veto.
Title: - 'A cheap ruse': US slams Russia and China for vetoing UN resolution on Syria
Post by: wag on October 06, 2011, 04:54:27 AM
Outraged is a jew word, ...has no place in real diplomacy.  How many times could Putin have used this word over the last 20 years and did not?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: AngelOfLight on October 06, 2011, 10:54:01 AM
Turkey imposes sanctions on Syria in protest over deaths

Turkish prime minister condemns the Bashar al-Assad regime and vows not to remain a bystander
Syria's former ally Turkey said on Tuesday it had started imposing sanctions on the regime of Bashar al-Assad and reiterated it will not remain a bystander in the face of a relentless military crackdown.

"Oppressed, defenceless people are dying in serious numbers," said Recep Erdogan, the Turkish prime minister. "We cannot say 'let these deaths continue'."

Erdogan did not specify the exact nature of the new sanctions but has previously hinted at a range of military and commercial measures.

Erdogan, who has taken a regional lead in condemning Turkey's restive southern neighbour, compared the actions of Assad to those of his father, Hafez al-Assad, who ordered the Hama massacre in 1982 after an anti-regime rebellion.

In a sign of the increasing support Ankara is giving to anti-regime dissidents, the highest-ranking officer to defect from the Syrian military on Tuesdayadmitted he was in southern Turkey. Colonel Riad al-Asaad used the Turkish newspaper Anatolia to call on opposition forces inside Syria to close ranks and wait for the regime to collapse.

Dissidents in the city of Homs fought pitched battles with security forces on Monday night in what some opposition leaders have cast as the most intense two-way violence of the six-month uprising. Syrian forces were earlier reported to have ousted opposition groups from an outlying region of Homs, known as Rastan.

"It was serious fighting," said opposition activist Wissam Tarif.

"Things seem to be escalating in Homs."

For the past months activists in and around Homs have been seeking weapons and attempting to mount an armed fight-back against the regime.

"We see them on the streets all the time," said a worker at one of the city's hospitals. "They are armed and they are fighting the regime when they can."

Activists said on Tuesday arrests had intensified since the weekend, with up to 3,000 people reported to have been recently detained.

Opposition groups have alleged in recent days that regime officials have been attempting to intimidate them in some European capitals, including London and Paris. The French government on Tuesday said it would not tolerate harassment of protesters and said it had called in the Syrian ambassador to register a formal protest.

Burhan Ghalioun, a Paris-based opposition figure, said three members of his family, his brother, nephew and niece, were abducted in Homs on Monday night. He feared his niece may have been killed.

Meanwhile, the appointment of the US ambassador to Syria, Robert Ford, was confirmed by the US Senate 18 months after he was nominated by Barack Obama – a contentious appointment opposed at the time by some politicians.

Ford has been a vocal critic of Assad's regime. His visit to Homs in the summer and to a key opposition activist late last week led to his convoy being attacked by regime supporters.

A newspaper run by the ruling Baath party on Monday warned that Ford would face more "unpleasant incidents" if he continued to take a public stand against Assad.

The US and Britain have said they will not advocate a Libyan-style military intervention in Syria and are instead banking on a range of sanctions against regime officials and public support for opposition groups to oust the regime, which they say has lost all legitimacy.

• This article was amended on 5 October 2011. The original misspelled the name of Colonel Riad al-Asaad as Riad al-Assad, and also misspelled the name of Recep Erdogan as Racip Erdogan. This has been corrected.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/04/bashar-al-assad-syria


The new leaders of Turkey see an opportunity to take out rival Muslim leaders and portray them selves as the only Muslim leader, strong (keep in mind the Turkish Israeli drama), religious and sent from Allah!
Neo-Ottomanism.

Turkey a whore of 500 faces!
Title: Turkey starts drills near Syria border
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 06, 2011, 10:54:37 AM
Turkey starts drills near Syria border

Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:52PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/203121.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/203121.html)

The Turkish military has launched planned military exercises in the southern province of Hatay, near the border with Syria, as tensions remain high between Ankara and Damascus.

The eight-day drills began on Wednesday and will test the army's mobilization system and the communication between public institutions and the armed forces in case of any mobilization or war.

Forty military vehicles and 730 stand-by personnel will participate in the exercise, codenamed Yildirim (Lightning)-2011.

The Turkish military has described the drills as routine but analysts believe the move is intended to increase pressure on neighboring Syria.

Relations between Syria and Turkey saw unprecedented strains since unrest erupted in the Arab nation in mid-March.

Meanwhile, Turkey has halted its arms deals with Syria.

Turkey is also preparing sanctions against the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad over what it calls the crackdown on anti-government protesters.

Syria insists that the unrest has been largely orchestrated by elements that are well-paid and armed by foreign powers and some neighboring states, including Turkey, as well as the Israeli regime.

Syria state TV has also broadcast reports and images of arms caches seized from armed gangs and confessions by terrorists that elaborated on how they obtained weapons from foreign sources.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: AngelOfLight on October 06, 2011, 10:58:13 AM
"Tensions"
What tensions?!

Rhetorical ^^
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 06, 2011, 01:10:06 PM
When the MSM starts referring to a country as a 'regime' well then expect 'regime change'.

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"It was serious fighting," said opposition activist Wissam Tarif.

"Things seem to be escalating in Homs."

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And who is this guy?  http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/04/meet-wissam-tarif-man-updating-us-syria/36965/ (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/04/meet-wissam-tarif-man-updating-us-syria/36965/)

A Lebanese apparently,  who's parents seemed to have no problem sending him to live in South America and send him to college there. Obviously another impoverished victim of the middle east who managed to put on plenty of weight while lamenting the plight of the poor. He is now gainfully employed as a 'Democracy & Human Rights defender'. CNN loves him.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on October 06, 2011, 01:33:55 PM
The new leaders of Turkey see an opportunity to take out rival Muslim leaders and portray them selves as the only Muslim leader, strong (keep in mind the Turkish Israeli drama), religious and sent from Allah!
Neo-Ottomanism.

Being Al Khalifa is simply romantic dreaming. Besides it ran its course, why would it work a second time?. This has more to do with Turkey being initiated into a higher level of the global elite.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: AngelOfLight on October 06, 2011, 08:38:48 PM
Being Al Khalifa is simply romantic dreaming. Besides it ran its course, why would it work a second time?. This has more to do with Turkey being initiated into a higher level of the global elite.


Turkey is moving away from the Kemalist path and towards the old Islamic roots. The first time the Turks were initiated to a high elite level was when they were invited in to Byzantium by rival throne pretenders which the Turks just simply took over. That started the age of one of the most back ward, bloodiest  perverted empires ever created on this earth! 
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on October 06, 2011, 09:14:18 PM

Turkey is moving away from the Kemalist path and towards the old Islamic roots. The first time the Turks were initiated to a high elite level was when they were invited in to Byzantium by rival throne pretenders which the Turks just simply took over. That started the age of one of the most back ward, bloodiest  perverted empires ever created on this earth!

Kemal was a mason and served the illuminati. Had the Ottomans (or any monarchy pre-WW1) remained, they would not have served the UN or NATO. And they were hardly invited into Byzantium, unless you count the guards that forgot to lock the gate behind them creating the breach. Turkey's intervention in Syria is a result of pressure from their masters now.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: AngelOfLight on October 06, 2011, 09:33:55 PM
Kemal was a mason and stooge of the illuminati. Had the Ottomans (or any monarchy pre-WW1) remained, they would not have served the UN or NATO. And they were hardly invited into Byzantium, unless you count the guards that forgot to lock the gate behind them creating the breach. Turkey's intervention in Syria is a result of pressure from their masters now.


The Turks were invited by the Paleologous dynasty and the Church her self, being in dept to the Venitians the Church was freed of obligations once they were "conquered" hence it remained the right hand of the Sultan till the end of the empire!
While it is seen as a victory by Muslims over Christians the fall of Byzantium came with the help of many "Christian" lords allying with the  Turks for wealth and power.
 Kemal might have been many things but he is the father of modern Turkey, if it weren't for him Turkey would've been were most Muslim countries are! He ended the perverted rule of the Sultans and laid the foundation for a Turkey of Free Man!
But Free Man and Muslim are two different things!

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on October 06, 2011, 09:46:15 PM

The Turks were invited by the Paleologous dynasty and the Church her self, being in dept to the Venitians the Church was freed of obligations once they were "conquered" hence it remained the right hand of the Sultan till the end of the empire!
While it is seen as a victory by Muslims over Christians the fall of Byzantium came with the help of many "Christian" lords allying with the  Turks for wealth and power.
 Kemal might have been many things but he is the father of modern Turkey, if it weren't for him Turkey would've been were most Muslim countries are! He ended the perverted rule of the Sultans and laid the foundation for a Turkey of Free Man!
But Free Man and Muslim are two different things!

It's true they preferred Turk's rule over the Poop Pope, but Palaiologos died with the siege and the church had no choice except to submit to new rulers. It wouldn't exist at all today if the Latins had taken over, that's for sure.

Incidentally free man and Christian are two different things too.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 07, 2011, 11:30:36 AM
Gunmen kill Kurdish activist in Syria

Fri Oct 7, 2011 7:26PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/203345.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/203345.html)

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Kurdish rights activist Meshaal al-Tamo

Unknown gunmen in Syria have killed prominent Kurdish rights activist Meshaal al-Tamo in the northeastern city of Qamishli, activist reported.

Rights activist say al-Tamo, 53, was killed on Friday after four masked gunmen stormed his home in the city.

His son and another fellow activist in the Kurdish Future Party were also said to have been injured in the attack.

The official SANA news agency, however, reported that al-Tamo was assassinated "by gunmen in a black car who fired at his car." He was a member of the newly formed Syrian National Council )SNC).

No group has yet claimed responsibility for the killing.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 07, 2011, 11:32:19 AM
Golan rallies in support of Assad

Fri Oct 7, 2011 7:8PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/203338.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/203338.html)

Hundreds of Druze living in the occupied Golan Heights have rallied in support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Waving Syrian flags and portraits of Assad, about 500 marched in the Israeli-controlled Majdal Shams village on Friday and chanted slogans in support of the Syrian president, AFP reported.

"We love you, Bashar ... We are with the Syrian army," the demonstrators chanted while holding banners reading: "We are for a dialogue aimed at national unity."

The rally came two days after more than 1,000 Syrian Druze, living under Israeli occupation, took to the streets in the Golan village of Boqata to back Bashar al-Assad.

"We are supporting President Bashar al-Assad," said one demonstrator, adding, "We say to those who are against him: 'No'."

Israel captured the strategic Golan Heights from Syria during the Six Day War in 1967 and annexed the Druze-inhabited territory in 1981 in a move which has not been recognized by the international community.

Israeli settlement activities began in the Golan soon after the war. Currently, there about more than 20,000 settlers living in the Golan Heights.

An estimated 18,000 Druze live in Golan, most of whom refuse to take up Israeli nationality.

Damascus wants a full Israeli withdrawal to the pre-1967 border as the price for any peace deal with Tel Aviv, but Israeli officials say the plateau is too strategically important to be returned. The Golan Heights gives Israel access to the Sea of Galilee, Israel's main source of fresh water.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 07, 2011, 08:59:26 PM
Assad did not meet Turkish FM: Syria

Sat Oct 8, 2011 2:33AM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/203361.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/203361.html)

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Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmed Davutoglu (L) and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad (R)

The Syrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has dismissed a media report claiming that President Bashar al-Assad and Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmed Davutoglu recently held a meeting, Press TV reports.

“What was published regarding a meeting between President Assad and Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu that allegedly took place recently is false,” the ministry said in a statement issued on Friday.

The statement noted that the last time the Syrian president met with Davutoglu was in August 2011, the Press TV correspondent in Damascus reported.

Turkish Foreign Ministry spokesperson Selcuk Unal has also denied that the meeting occurred, saying, "The news report is completely untrue."

Turkey strongly supported a draft resolution that would have censured Syria for the “crackdown” on anti-government protesters, which was proposed by European states but vetoed by Russia and China at the United Nations Security Council.

Syria insists that the recent unrest in the country has been largely orchestrated by elements that are well-paid and armed by foreign powers and some neighboring states, including Turkey and Israel.

In September, the Syria Steps news website said Syrian cyber specialists had uncovered an anti-Damascus plot devised by Turkey and France.

According to the plot, Turkey would facilitate the implementation of France's strategic plans in the Middle East, especially in Syria, Israel, and Lebanon.

Ankara would also help the efforts to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad by supporting the Syrian opposition, among other things, the Syria Steps report added.

In return, Paris would make efforts to accelerate the process of Turkey's accession to the European Union, enabling it to join the EU before the end of 2012.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: AngelOfLight on October 09, 2011, 07:07:37 PM
It's true they preferred Turk's rule over the Poop Pope, but Palaiologos died with the siege and the church had no choice except to submit to new rulers. It wouldn't exist at all today if the Latins had taken over, that's for sure.

Incidentally free man and Christian are two different things too.


The bastards from Middle East and Persia  which had been allowed in to the empire because  they had declared to be of the same religion had risen to high ranks and were allowed to even take key positions in the Church of Constantinople, until that period the empire was united and even the church of Constantinople answered to the one in Rome!  With their arrival came perversion and division, Peleologus allied him self with the Turks in the hope that they would help  him take the throne and so did many despots but it wasn't long before they realized their true enemy! 
Like I said in my previous comment Turkey is out to eliminate the leaders of the other Muslim countries, if this elevates them higher in the elite group that's just another bonus for them but their main goal is to be seen as THE leader in the Muslim world!


A free man never attacks anyone because it knows not to take the others right to freedom. All Christian wars against Muslims have been in the defense mode, always!
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on October 09, 2011, 08:00:37 PM

The bastards from Middle East and Persia  which had been allowed in to the empire because  they had declared to be of the same religion had risen to high ranks and were allowed to even take key positions in the Church of Constantinople, until that period the empire was united and even the church of Constantinople answered to the one in Rome!  With their arrival came perversion and division, Peleologus allied him self with the Turks in the hope that they would help  him take the throne and so did many despots but it wasn't long before they realized their true enemy! 
Like I said in my previous comment Turkey is out to eliminate the leaders of the other Muslim countries, if this elevates them higher in the elite group that's just another bonus for them but their main goal is to be seen as THE leader in the Muslim world!


Please cite an authentic source proving the last emperor allied with the Turks or engaged in secret agreements with them. Besides, even if he did, why the siege? Or is that just an imaginary battle now?

A free man never attacks anyone because it knows not to take the others right to freedom.

Kinda like how Rome Conquered/Catholicized Europe, and viewed other forms of Christianity in the Middle East as heretical?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: AngelOfLight on October 11, 2011, 07:31:05 AM

The bastards from Middle East and Persia  which had been allowed in to the empire because  they had declared to be of the same religion had risen to high ranks and were allowed to even take key positions in the Church of Constantinople, until that period the empire was united and even the church of Constantinople answered to the one in Rome!  With their arrival came perversion and division, Peleologus allied him self with the Turks in the hope that they would help  him take the throne and so did many despots but it wasn't long before they realized their true enemy! 
Like I said in my previous comment Turkey is out to eliminate the leaders of the other Muslim countries, if this elevates them higher in the elite group that's just another bonus for them but their main goal is to be seen as THE leader in the Muslim world!


Please cite an authentic source proving the last emperor allied with the Turks or engaged in secret agreements with them. Besides, even if he did, why the siege? Or is that just an imaginary battle now?

A free man never attacks anyone because it knows not to take the others right to freedom.

Kinda like how Rome Conquered/Catholicized Europe, and viewed other forms of Christianity in the Middle East as heretical?

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2707/fallofcostandnople.png)

Soon after the death of Bajazet, Manuel recovered the throne of Constantinople; John Palseologus, who had retained possession of it during ten years under the auspices of the Ottoman Sultan, being now banished to Thessaly.

This is the year around 1405. At the siege of Constantinople is it said that no more then 10.000 Christians were defending the city against 100 to 150.000 Muslims. Clearly showing a division among Christians, while accounts of Turks crossing in to the Empire to help various nobble man to take the throne date back to the 13 hundreds!

You can read more from the book that I took the page here
http://books.google.ca/books?id=iBwpAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA320&lpg=PA320&dq=The+Greek+Emperor+Manuel+invited+Mohammed&source=bl&ots=CihQ-G3q8e&sig=oIV_D7ER1Q5M0xaNOsSqvPllmpo&hl=en&ei=iFmUTv2lFunx0gGqwrzNBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=The%20Greek%20Emperor%20Manuel%20invited%20Mohammed&f=false

As far as authentic documents, treaties etc... they remain sealed to this day much like "Top Secret" documents of today's governments!
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on October 12, 2011, 03:39:20 PM
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2707/fallofcostandnople.png)

Soon after the death of Bajazet, Manuel recovered the throne of Constantinople; John Palseologus, who had retained possession of it during ten years under the auspices of the Ottoman Sultan, being now banished to Thessaly.

This is the year around 1405. At the siege of Constantinople is it said that no more then 10.000 Christians were defending the city against 100 to 150.000 Muslims. Clearly showing a division among Christians, while accounts of Turks crossing in to the Empire to help various nobble man to take the throne date back to the 13 hundreds!

You can read more from the book that I took the page here
http://books.google.ca/books?id=iBwpAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA320&lpg=PA320&dq=The+Greek+Emperor+Manuel+invited+Mohammed&source=bl&ots=CihQ-G3q8e&sig=oIV_D7ER1Q5M0xaNOsSqvPllmpo&hl=en&ei=iFmUTv2lFunx0gGqwrzNBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=The%20Greek%20Emperor%20Manuel%20invited%20Mohammed&f=false

As far as authentic documents, treaties etc... they remain sealed to this day much like "Top Secret" documents of today's governments!

I'm aware several of the emperors were vassals of the Ottomans. Some even paid tribute to the Arabs. I only argue that that doesn't mean the last one was. The house of Palaiologos simply ceased to be useful to any power and therefore were conquered.

Anyways, in the modern era, Turkey must know being 'leader' of the Muslim world means absolutely nothing to anyone except deluded fools. They will attack Syria to secure their position of the world elite. They can pretend to care about Arabs but I'm sure some of those in power still remember the revolt during WW1...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 12, 2011, 06:56:00 PM
Syrians slam NTC for SNC recognition

Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:5PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/204240.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/204240.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111012/esmaeeli20111012185524077.jpg)

Scores of Syrians have staged a sit-in outside the Libyan embassy in the capital, Damascus, to protest against the recognition of Syria's opposition National Council by Libyan leaders.

The protest gathering came a day after Mussa al-Koni, a member of Libya's ruling National Transitional Council (NTC), said in a news conference in Tripoli that "the NTC has decided to recognize the Syrian National Council as the sole legitimate government in Syria and to close the Syrian embassy in Tripoli."

Syrians, however, consider the move as a way for NATO to recognize the Syrian National Council (SNC), an umbrella body formally set up on October 2 in Turkey, pulling together most of the groups opposing the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

The European Union has also welcomed the newly formed Syrian opposition council, but stopped short of any call to recognize the body.

Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of Syrians rallied in support of Assad in the capital. They also denounced the creation of the opposition council, saying that SNC does not represent the Syrians.

Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moallem has vowed unspecified "tough measures" against any nation that would recognize the "illegitimate" Syrian National Council.

LW - Can there be any doubt who backs the NTC? They still haven't consolidated their 'hold' on Libya (if they ever do) and yet they have time to comment on the affairs of a foreign nation.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 17, 2011, 09:29:38 AM
Nine more Syrian soldiers killed

Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:45PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/205119.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/205119.html)

At least nine Syrian soldiers have been killed and many others have been injured in the latest outbreak of violence in the Arab country.

According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, four soldiers were killed on Monday after a remotely-controlled roadside bomb struck a military vehicle in Ehssem district of the northwestern province of Idlib.

An officer is reported to be among the dead. Several soldiers were also injured in the blast.

Another five soldiers were killed in clashes with gunmen in the central province of Homs.

The Britain-based Observatory also said that four civilians have been killed in the cities of Homs and Hama.

Meanwhile, Syria's Arab League envoy Yousef Ahmad said that the terrorist behind the months of unrest in the country were getting weapons from Israel. He made the remarks after Syrian security forces seized large amounts of Israeli-made weapons and ammunition from armed groups responsible for the killing of hundreds of people across the country.*

"They are Israeli made automatic weapons. This is proven and we'll show it on TV channels," Ahmad said at an emergency Arab League meeting on Sunday to discuss situation in Syria.

''These are the weapons used by the armed opposition to kill the sons of our nation,'' he added.

The Syrian envoy also called on the Arab nations not to join the US-backed plan to target Syria.

The meeting came amid continued unrest in Syria, which has been raging on since mid-March, leaving hundreds of casualties, including members of the security forces.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March and hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed in the violence.

While the opposition and Western countries accuse security forces of being behind the killings, the government blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

*LW - Emphasis mine.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 24, 2011, 10:45:13 AM
Syria recalls ambassador to US

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:44PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/206429.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/206429.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111024/pirhayati20111024183128420.jpg)
Syrian Ambassador to the United States Imad Moustapha

Syria has recalled its ambassador to the United States shortly after the Obama administration pulled its envoy out of the Arab state.

“Imad Moustapha is already recalled to Damascus for consultations,” Reuters quoted an unnamed spokesperson for Syria's embassy in Washington on Monday.

State Department spokesman Mark Toner said on Monday that the United States has pulled its ambassador to Damascus, Robert Ford, after he received "credible threats against his personal safety in Syria."

President Assad said in late August that Washington and its European partners were hindering political change in Syria, while political solution was the only way out of the country's crisis.

“In the beginning, the aim is not reforms for the West, they do not want reforms ... They do not want us to make reforms,” Assad said.

“The reforms for the colonial Western powers, their main aim is ... to give them what they want, to tell them I abandon everything, I abandon all my rights. This is reforms for them ... and this is something they cannot dream about,” he added.

“The plan was to overthrow Syria during a period of weeks and what helped us is the will and vigilance of the Syrian people.”

Assad also noted that the Syrian constitution required revision and the promised reforms would be implemented within the next few months.

Unrest started to sweep through Syria in mid-March, claiming the lives of hundreds of people, including members of the security forces.

Damascus says that the tension is being orchestrated from outside the country and that the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 26, 2011, 10:17:17 AM
Syrians rally in support of Assad

Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:33PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/206778.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/206778.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111026/esmaeeli20111026151447107.jpg)
Tens of thousands of Syrians attend a pro-government rally in the capital on October 26, 2011.

Tens of thousands of Syrians have rallied in the capital, Damascus, to show support for President Bashar al-Assad, calling for national unity.

Waving Syrian flags and brandishing pictures of Assad, Syrian civilians flocked to Omayyad square in Damascus downtown on Wednesday for the rally, chanting, "The people want Bashar al-Assad."

The demonstration was being held under the banner, "Long live the homeland and its leader; the Syrian people are one family."

Demonstrators also expressed support for the Syrian president's reform plan condemned foreign interference in their country's internal affairs.

They also thanked Russia and China for blocking a UN Security Council resolution against Syria.

During the rally, many Syrians signed their names in blood to display loyalty to their leader.

A similar pro-government rally was also held in Hasaka, 595 kilometers from Damascus.

The mass pro-Assad demonstrations coincide with a visit by an Arab League delegation led by Qatar's prime minister to Damascus for talks with senior Syrian officials over the unrest in the country.

Meanwhile, at least nine Syrian soldiers, including an officer, were killed by armed groups in the restive Hama Province.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March and hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed in the violence.

While the opposition and Western countries accuses security forces of being behind the killings, the government blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

LW - Wonder if Obama could muster as many for a rally in his support?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on October 26, 2011, 10:32:28 AM
Syrians rally in support of Assad


(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111026/esmaeeli20111026151447107.jpg)
Tens of thousands of Syrians attend a pro-government rally in the capital on October 26, 2011.

Tens of thousands of Syrians have rallied in the capital, Damascus, to show support for President Bashar al-Assad, calling for national unity.


LW - Wonder if Obama could muster as many for a rally in his support?

I think Syria will be a much harder nut for America/Israel to crack...In fact, I don't think the Israelis particularly want to see some kind of civil war raging on their northern border.

Obama would have to hand out checks to draw a crowd.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on October 26, 2011, 11:16:46 AM
I think Syria will be a much harder nut for America/Israel to crack...In fact, I don't think the Israelis particularly want to see some kind of civil war raging on their northern border.

Obama would have to hand out checks to draw a crowd.

And he might just do that, because this is what the ME warmongering, death and destruction with impunity is all about.... Faith!

Future Israel (http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future.php)

Next Year in Jerusalem

Why do we, the Jews celebrating Pesach (Passover) in Jerusalem, still say: "Next year in Jerusalem!" Aren't we already here?
The rebuilt Jerusalem we pray for is not this modern city, and the redeemed Eretz Israel is not the political state of the Jews we see today. As the influence of the Torah extends, so will the boundaries of Eretz Israel expand accordingly.

Futuristic Map Based on the Torah

"To your descendants I have given this land, from the Egyptian River as far as the great river, the Euphrates."
Bere$h^t (Genesis) 15:18

"The exiles shall be ingathered only through faith"
Mechilta, Exodus.

"When will the Moshiach come? Today, as it is said: 'Today, if you will hearken unto my voice' (Psalms 95:7)"
Talmud, Sanhedrin 98a.

Next Year in Jerusalem

May we soon live in Moshiach's Jerusalem, and plow the land of redeemed Israel. May we celebrate the Pesach (Passover) Seder in spiritual freedom, when all Jews will have claimed their inheritance in the eternal Eretz Israel.

(http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/eimages/future-israel.jpg)

(http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/eimages/future-map8.jpg)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on October 26, 2011, 11:19:44 AM
I think Syria will be a much harder nut for America/Israel to crack...In fact, I don't think the Israelis particularly want to see some kind of civil war raging on their northern border.

Obama would have to hand out checks to draw a crowd.

The Jews have already decided they're going to take Syria. That's the plan. From here-on it all depends what position the Russia takes. Will it be another Iraq? or will it be WWIII?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on October 26, 2011, 12:33:51 PM
The Jews have already decided they're going to take Syria. That's the plan. From here-on it all depends what position the Russia takes. Will it be another Iraq? or will it be WWIII?

You forget Hezbollah and Iran...They will have something to say.

The Saudis might go along, as they are the US/Israel silent partner.

Turkey may also have some objections as it would give the Kurds an excuse to do something major, with all the commotion going on.

But, if all this happens, you could probably say that WWIII has started...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on October 26, 2011, 01:38:51 PM
Jews will take Syria, Iran, or any other place they feel like.

But their kids will remain at Harvard, and your kids will die. And, no, they will not repay their student loans
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: clefty on October 26, 2011, 03:04:36 PM
And he might just do that, because this is what the ME warmongering, death and destruction with impunity is all about.... Faith!

Future Israel (http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future.php)

Next Year in Jerusalem

Why do we, the Jews celebrating Pesach (Passover) in Jerusalem, still say: "Next year in Jerusalem!" Aren't we already here?
The rebuilt Jerusalem we pray for is not this modern city, and the redeemed Eretz Israel is not the political state of the Jews we see today. As the influence of the Torah extends, so will the boundaries of Eretz Israel expand accordingly.

Futuristic Map Based on the Torah

"To your descendants I have given this land, from the Egyptian River as far as the great river, the Euphrates."
Bere$h^t (Genesis) 15:18

"The exiles shall be ingathered only through faith"
Mechilta, Exodus.

"When will the Moshiach come? Today, as it is said: 'Today, if you will hearken unto my voice' (Psalms 95:7)"
Talmud, Sanhedrin 98a.

Next Year in Jerusalem

May we soon live in Moshiach's Jerusalem, and plow the land of redeemed Israel. May we celebrate the Pesach (Passover) Seder in spiritual freedom, when all Jews will have claimed their inheritance in the eternal Eretz Israel.

(http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/eimages/future-israel.jpg)

(http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/eimages/future-map8.jpg)

i will see your jooville and raise you universal state

(http://ivarfjeld.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/vatican-map.jpg?w=445&h=314)


Vatican order considers “Holy land” to be former Greater Syria


http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/vatican-considers-holy-land-to-be-former-greater-syria/

isreal has always been a mere outpost for many world powers...rome included

In the afternoon of May, 2001, Pope John Paul II became the first head of the Catholic Church to enter a mosque, the Umayyad Great Mosque in Damascus, which, according to tradition, is the burial place of John the Baptist, a Muslim prophet according to Islam.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/First-Pope-to-visit-mosque-in-2001-2950.html

wonder what popie wanted...

isreal remains a puppet state...joos the puppets...and apperently we cant take our eyes off them...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: WaltDisney on October 26, 2011, 03:46:03 PM
i will see your jooville and raise you universal state

Vatican order considers “Holy land” to be former Greater Syria


http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/vatican-considers-holy-land-to-be-former-greater-syria/

isreal has always been a mere outpost for many world powers...rome included

In the afternoon of May, 2001, Pope John Paul II became the first head of the Catholic Church to enter a mosque, the Umayyad Great Mosque in Damascus, which, according to tradition, is the burial place of John the Baptist, a Muslim prophet according to Islam.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/First-Pope-to-visit-mosque-in-2001-2950.html

wonder what popie wanted...

isreal remains a puppet state...joos the puppets...and apperently we cant take our eyes off them...

Weak post, Clefty , but typical and full of Disinfo, as is your link.

Here is an authentic Map from the Vatican in the 1200s, featuring Palestine.
Sorry to have to disprove you a your Kosher sources yet again. 

(http://www.specialx.net/specialxdotnet/crucified_images/secretmap-Holy-Land.jpg)

Nice source  though, Jews run such good blogs that are so factual and honest
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: clefty on October 26, 2011, 04:16:10 PM
Weak post, Clefty , but typical and full of Disinfo, as is your link.

Rome is not, nor has ever been interested in joorusalem?

Of course there was a palastine...

read carefully Walt,  the site states

"During the 400 years the  Ottoman Empire controlled this area, there was no area named “Palestine”. These Turkish provinces was called “Greater Syria”, "




couldnt help but notice on your "authentic map from the vatican in the 1200s" the words  AQIR AERODROME

I guess I underestimated rome again...airfields in the 1200s proves catholicism advances science
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: WaltDisney on October 26, 2011, 06:20:54 PM
Rome is not, nor has ever been interested in joorusalem?

It was Our Holy City, controlled By the Church for 1000 years before being overrun by Muslim Saracens, yes of course the Church was interested in it, our religion comes FROM that region.


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Of course there was a palastine...
read carefully Walt,  the site states
"During the 400 years the  Ottoman Empire controlled this area, there was no area named “Palestine”. These Turkish provinces was called “Greater Syria”, "

I only see Palestine (Near the Med)..I dont see Greater Syria on that Jews webpage you linked.
(http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/eastern_roman_empire.jpg)



Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: clefty on October 26, 2011, 08:12:00 PM
It was Our Holy City, controlled By the Church for 1000 years before being overrun by Muslim Saracens, yes of course the Church was interested in it, our religion comes FROM that region.

your religion has precious little in common with what occured in that region...


JOOrusalem is your holy city, not was, and your church IS interested Wally, not was interested.

And I doubt I will get an explanation from you as to exactly what "interested" means.


this joo web page?

http://www.custodia.org/default.asp?id=425


The world was, so to speak, divided into Franciscan "provinces," and the friars from Assisi went out to the four corners of the world. On that occasion, the Holy Land was not forgotten. The Holy Land appears among the eleven Mother Provinces of the Order. In the documents, it is designated by various names: Syria, Romania, or Ultramarina. 

It included the Empire of Constantinople, Greece and the Greek Isles, Asia Minor, Antioch, Syria, Palestine, Cyprus, Egypt, and the rest of the Orient. The Province of the Holy Land, because of the vastness of the territory and the presence of the holy places, was always given special consideration.

....

Another certain date in the history of the Province of the Holy Land is 1263. That year, under the generalship of St. Bonaventure, the General Chapter was convened in Pisa. On that occasion, naturally, the Province of the Holy Land was also discussed. Its boundaries were set to include the Island of Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine, dividing it into Custodies, including that of the Holy Land, which included the convents of Saint Jean d'Acre, Antioch, Sidon, Tripoli, Jerusalem and Jaffa."



Be proud of your tradition Walt...its a glorious conquest...

is not your global kingdom coming?




Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 26, 2011, 09:09:38 PM
@Walt Disney, @clefty

There is gonna be a flag on this play if you guys keep sending us all down memory lane and yet another argument over religious history that more than likely had more to do with trade routes than it did with a crucifixion.

Let's worry more about what is happening in Syria now rather than relive that idiocy known as the Crusades. The mess that created is still with us, that's a given, but regardless, the same sinister forces are at work in the here and now so lets keep this thread focused on the present, shall we?

IMO The idea of of a restored Levant is a useful paradigm for the PTBs that keeps the so-called nation of Israel in line with their desires for world hegemony. Franky, as none of them live there, Israel is as expendable to them as is Italy. Besides 6 million so-called Jews in Israel fills their fantasy quota they've been kicking around for a century an a half.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: clefty on October 27, 2011, 04:03:35 AM


had more to do trade routes than it did with a crucifixion.
as if it ever was about "salvation" Rome wants resources and power

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Let's worry more about what is happening in Syria now rather than relive that idiocy known as the Crusades. The mess that created is still with us, that's a given, but regardless, the same sinister forces are at work in the here and now so lets keep this thread focused on the present, shall we?
clap clap clap

i only mentioned rome because its just the JOO around here...this is a present modern crusade LW and the same sinister forces are indeed at work here but at FP only the JOOS are fingered...oh and what will russia think or iran do or china or the pygmies...its never rome

interesting you minimize the white body count of the crusades to idiocy...

Quote
IMO The idea of of a restored Levant is a useful paradigm for the PTBs that keeps the so-called nation of Israel in line with their desires for world hegemony. Franky, as none of them live there, Israel is as expendable to them as is Italy. Besides 6 million so-called Jews in Israel fills their fantasy quota they've been kicking around for a century an a half.
hmmm that's deep LW....israel as a tool...can you focus on that?

in the future will you include Rome in your proclamations against the PTBs or will it remain just the JOOOOOOOO
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: pope daniel on October 27, 2011, 04:30:16 AM
Jews will take Syria, Iran, or any other place they feel like.

But their kids will remain at Harvard, and your kids will die. And, no, they will not repay their student loans

 ;D
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: pope daniel on October 27, 2011, 04:31:49 AM
i will see your jooville and raise you universal state

(http://ivarfjeld.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/vatican-map.jpg?w=445&h=314)


Vatican order considers “Holy land” to be former Greater Syria


http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/vatican-considers-holy-land-to-be-former-greater-syria/

isreal has always been a mere outpost for many world powers...rome included

In the afternoon of May, 2001, Pope John Paul II became the first head of the Catholic Church to enter a mosque, the Umayyad Great Mosque in Damascus, which, according to tradition, is the burial place of John the Baptist, a Muslim prophet according to Islam.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/First-Pope-to-visit-mosque-in-2001-2950.html

wonder what popie wanted...

isreal remains a puppet state...joos the puppets...and apperently we cant take our eyes off them...

damnit clefty. cant u just be antisemetic like the rest of us
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: pope daniel on October 27, 2011, 04:36:27 AM
in the future will you include Rome in your proclamations against the PTBs or will it remain just the JOOOOOOOO

pope daniel is the defacto head of rome; and i assure that these claims are defamatory
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: WaltDisney on October 27, 2011, 05:28:06 AM
your religion has precious little in common with what occured in that region...

Jews done made a mess of it, dint they?  Forced conversions was the downfall..better to have mandatory badges and ghettos.

Quote
JOOrusalem is your holy city, not was, and your church IS interested Wally, not was interested.

It is now part of the Jewish Khazar state, The Church has no say in any affairs there. 
Hasnt since Muslims overran it, and then later when  Jews stole their state in 1948


You contradicted your own post, Clefty
The world was, so to speak, divided into Franciscan "provinces," and the friars from Assisi went out to the four corners of the world. On that occasion, the Holy Land was not forgotten. The Holy Land appears among the eleven Mother Provinces of the Order. In the documents, it is designated by various names: Syria, Romania, or Ultramarina. 

It included the Empire of Constantinople, Greece and the Greek Isles, Asia Minor, Antioch, Syria, Palestine, Cyprus, Egypt, and the rest of the Orient. The Province of the Holy Land, because of the vastness of the territory and the presence of the holy places, was always given special consideration.

....

Another certain date in the history of the Province of the Holy Land is 1263. That year, under the generalship of St. Bonaventure, the General Chapter was convened in Pisa. On that occasion, naturally, the Province of the Holy Land was also discussed. Its boundaries were set to include the Island of Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine, dividing it into Custodies, including that of the Holy Land, which included the convents of Saint Jean d'Acre, Antioch, Sidon, Tripoli, Jerusalem and Jaffa."


*Sorry LW, Im only pointing out that on historical Maps, that land was called Palestine (Jews like to claim otherwise)

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 27, 2011, 10:59:55 AM
i only mentioned rome because its just the JOO around here...

List all the Catholics who wrote the PNAC document. List all the Catholics who work in the State Department. List all the Catholics who run Hollywood. List all the Catholics who head up the five media corporations. List all the Catholics that head up the banks. List all the Catholics who sit on the boards of the banks, brokerage and financial firms and head up the agencies that supposedly regulate them. I could go on and on... but I know you'll not be forthcoming with an honest reply.

All roads lead to Rome is no longer a truism, not by a long shot. It's merely a roadside diner nowadays, long ago made part of a bigger structure.

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interesting you minimize the white body count of the crusades to idiocy...

Calling that venture in murder and aggression 'idiocy' is to you, minimizing? I consider it an understatement, a considerable understatement, an understatement made for effect, so don't try and make me out to be taking sides on that account.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on October 28, 2011, 04:26:34 PM
List all the Catholics who wrote the PNAC document. List all the Catholics who work in the State Department.

Plenty of guilty Catholics:  Larry Franklin who worked for Pentagon's joo neocons Feith & Wolfowitz & passed classified intel to AIPAC joos Rosen & Weissman.  Franklin was of course the only one convicted.

Army scientist, Catholic Bruce Ivins, was ID'd by FBI as the sole anthrax perp while even MSM put forth doubts about the case (while failing to mention the lab's history as a zio hotbed).  Long before the anthrax attacks the WashPost did a feature about the lab's (zionists) making a special effort to get Muslim scientist Assaad to resign.  (Later other zios lamely tried to pin the anthrax on Assaad.

Looks like Catholics who try to work with the ZOG just end up being patsies.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on October 28, 2011, 04:59:32 PM
Looks like Catholics who try to work with the ZOG just end up being patsies.

Anyone who works with ZOG ends up with the same result: royally fawked.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on October 28, 2011, 07:20:06 PM
Anyone who works with ZOG ends up with the same result: royally fawked.

I was gonna say the same... 
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 01, 2011, 11:51:04 AM
Syria, AL reach agreement on roadmap

Tue Nov 1, 2011 5:47PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/207872.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/207872.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111101/hosseinsharifi20111101174516903.jpg)
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111101/hosseinsharifi20111101172232060.jpg)
Syrians hold a demonstration in support of President Bashar al-Assad in Deir al-Zour on November 1, 2011.

Syria and the Arab League Committee have reached an agreement on a roadmap to end violence in the country, Syrian television has reported.

A formal announcement is due to be made at the Arab League headquarters in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, on Wednesday, Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) reported.

The agreement comes as thousands of Syrians held a demonstration in support of the government of President Bashar al-Assad in the northeastern city of Deir al-Zour on Tuesday.

Demonstrators expressed their support for the reforms promised by the Syrian president. They also chanted slogans against foreign intervention in the country.

President Assad said on Sunday that any intervention by Western powers to divide the country would break up the entire region.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Assad.

Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

While the opposition and Western countries accuse security forces of being behind the killings, the government blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, saying that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on November 01, 2011, 12:06:21 PM
I have been watching this situation with trepidation since it started.

The main opponents to Assad are Sunnis from the Hama area...Hama is a city of nearly a million where the Assad regime slaughtered an estimated 10-20000 Sunnis opposed to Assad's Ba'ath Party in the 1980s...The Sunnis there have a long memory...But be careful of the info about this: The Syrian Army claims that the Sunni rebels from the Moslem Brotherhood initiated the carnage...The Zio press makes all Hama rebels 'martyrs'.

At that time, the West or the Israelis could give a $h^t...They still don't, but with their interference or 'success' in Libya on the front burner, they may get cocky and try something here this time...You have a crowd dominating the State Department now kind of like the PNAC crowd...In fact, it may be some of the same ones...And we know what they did.

Perhaps the Arab League can wield some influence here.

The Russians also have a navy base in Tartus, Syria,and that MAY be a deterrent.

(http://hashmonean.com/images/sy_map1.jpg)

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It is hard to get any impartial opinions about what happened in Hama...Here is some background:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/syria-hama-massacre-egypt/2011/02/02/id/384785 (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/syria-hama-massacre-egypt/2011/02/02/id/384785)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 01, 2011, 03:27:54 PM

1980 was a time when the Jews used religious Muslims to attack secular type Muslim countries. Hamas and the Iranian revolution grew out of this. Before this time, they used secular socialist type groups like the PLO. Today they use anybody that can be bought, see Libya.

A historical perspective. Syria has been at war with Israel for over 60 years.

http://www.historyguy.com/israel_syria_wars.htm
    
     

   
Wars Between Israel and Syria :

From 1948 to the Present


        As of April, 2010, tensions between Syria and Israel were rising, with Israel accusing Syria of transferring powerful Scud missiles to the Hezbollah Islamist militia in Lebanon. The possible ramifications of this development could lead to a new Israel-Syria war. Below are the wars fought between Israel and Syria from the 1948-1949 Israeli War of Independence to the rising tensions of today.

        Israeli War of Independence/ "al-Nakba" (The Disaster) (1948-1949)--Upon independence, Israel was invaded by the armies of six Arab nations: Egypt, Syria, Transjordan (later Jordan), Lebanon, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. In addition, local Arab Palestinian forces also fought the Jewish Israelis. Israel held off the Arab forces and established itself as an independent nation. From the start of this war, Syria and Israel have been engaged in one continuous legal state of war. While technically at war this whole time, in reality, their conflict has been punctuated by several major (though short), wars and numerous cross-border attacks and air battles.

         

        Israeli-Syrian Border and Air Battle (Nov. 13, 1964)—Israel and Syria both claimed sovereignty over several Demilitarized Zones along their border.  These Zones were set up as part of the cease-fire ending the First Arab-Israeli War.  Israel attempted to farm the land in these Zones, while Syria developed a project to divert water from the Jordan River, which Israel shared with both Syria and Jordan.  Syrian forces often fired on Israeli tractors attempting to farm the Zones, while Israel looked for ways to interrupt the Syrian diversion project.  On Nov. 13, 1964, Syrian forces stationed on the top of the Golan Heights, a plateau overlooking Israeli territory in the Jordan River valley, fired on Israeli tractors.  Israeli forces returned fire.  Syrian artillery then targeted Israeli civilian villages.  Israel responded with air attacks on Syrian forces.  This battle resulted in 4 Israeli dead and 9 wounded.  Syrian losses included two tanks and machines involved in the diversion project. One result of this clash was Syria’s accelerated acquisition of more and better Soviet-made fighter planes. (Oren, 2001).

        Israeli-Syrian Border Battles (Summer, 1966)—Continued artillery and tank duels along the Golan Heights front led to :

        Israeli-Syrian Air Battle (July 7, 1966)—Responding to the continued fighting along the border, Israeli planes attacked Syrian forces, resulting in the loss of one Syrian MiG fighter plane.

        Israeli-Syrian Air/Sea Battle (Aug. 15, 1966)—After an Israeli patrol boat ran aground on the eastern shore of the Sea of Galilee (according to the 1949 cease-fire agreement, Israeli forces were not supposed to approach within 250 meters of the eastern shore, which was a Demilitarized Zone), Syrian planes attacked it.  Israel responded, shooting down two MiG planes.

        The Six-Day War (1967)--In a rapid pre-emptive attack, Israel crushed the military forces of Egypt, Jordan and Syria and seized large amounts of land from each. Iraq also participated in the fighting on the Arab side.

     

        The Yom Kippur (Ramadan) War (1973)--In a surprise attack launched on the Jewish Yom Kippur holiday (the dates also fell on the Muslim Ramadan holiday), Egypt and Syria attacked Israel. Despite aid from Iraq, the Arab forces failed to defeat Israel.

     

        The Israeli Invasion of Lebanon (1982-1984)--In response to repeated guerrilla attacks by the PLO, which were launched from South Lebanon, Israel invaded with the intent of destroying Arafat's forces. Syria, which maintained a large army in Lebanon, fought Israel and suffered an embarrassing defeat. See The Israeli-Lebanon Conflict (1978-Present).

        Israeli Air Strike on Syria (October, 2003)-- Israeli warplanes hit the Syrian village of Ain al-Saheb, near Damascus.

        Israeli Air Strike on Syria (Sept. 6, 2007)—Israeli warplanes overflew northern Syria, dropping ordnance on a (publicly) unknown target. According to both the New York Times and ABC News, the target was a nuclear facility being built with North Korean aid and assistance. See War and Conflict Journal's article on this attack.

         

         As of April, 2010, tensions between Syria and Israel were rising, with Israeli sources indicating that Syria was transferring powerful Scud missiles to the Hezbollah Islamist militia in Lebanon. See an interesting article about the possible ramifications of this development toward a possible new Israel-Syria war at Plotting the Next Mideast War

        Nakba Day Border Incidents-on May 15 and June 5, 2011, Palestinian demonstrators demostrated on the Syrian-Israeli border, and attempted to cross the border into Israel. Israeli security forces opened fire, killing several of the protestors. Syria claimed up to 23 were killed and hundreds wounded in the June 5 incident. Israel accused Syria of planning and instigating the incident to draw attention away from Syria's own internal uprising.

         

         

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Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 01, 2011, 09:25:48 PM
‘We won’t let Syria become 2nd Libya’ – Russian FM

Published: 01 November, 2011, 17:18
source: http://rt.com/politics/syria-libya-russian-stance-285/ (http://rt.com/politics/syria-libya-russian-stance-285/)

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Sergey Lavrov

Russia will not allow the repetition of the Libyan scenario in Syria, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said after a meeting with the Co-operation Council for the Arab States of the Gulf in Abu-Dhabi.

­“We do not support regimes, we support international law,” Lavrov reiterated Moscow’s stance on Syria. Russia insists on mediating dialogue between the authorities and opposition in the country and this position is reflected in the draft resolution of Russia and China.

He said that Russia supports a peaceful initiative of the Arab League. The document, which was made public on Monday in Doha, provides for withdrawal of tank units from Syrian cities and the start of talks between the forces involved in the conflict.

According to Lavrov, this initiative is the only possible way to make sure that Syrians will “decide their future for themselves through national dialogue and civil reconciliation.”

“We advocate an approach which, among others, is applied in Yemen,” the Russian foreign minister explained. “There was an initiative of the Co-operation Council for the Arab States of the Gulf. And everyone, be it the Council itself, the Arab League, the EU, US, Russia or China, acted responsibly, without setting artificial deadlines, waiting for months until the goal was achieved.”

Lavrov believes that the Security Council resolution on Yemen should be a used as a model for the future. This is something that goes against the stance of some “esteemed NATO member states” who say the Libyan operation should be viewed as a role model.

“Isolation is not our approach,” Lavrov outlined. “If something goes wrong in Syria, many countries of the region will feel a negative impact. We can’t support isolation because of the lesson we drew from Libya.”

The lesson was that arms supplies to Libya continued despite the embargo introduced by the Security Council, “and some heads of states openly admitted the fact”, which only contributed to the escalation of tensions.

Lavrov also criticized the US decision to stop financing UNESCO because of granting membership to Palestine. The Russian foreign minister said Moscow hopes that Washington will review its decision.

“We believe that accepting Palestine to UNESCO was a justified demand. The voting was legal,” Lavrov said. He called the US decision “regrettable” adding that “it is not something that will help restore good climate necessary for resuming negotiations.

Moscow is convinced that Palestinian authorities do not consider UNESCO or UN membership as an alternative to talks with Israel, the minister outlined.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 01, 2011, 09:58:43 PM

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‘We won’t let Syria become 2nd Libya’ – Russian FM

Everytime Russia get's in the way there's always a terrorist attack in Russia.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 02, 2011, 12:21:28 AM
Lebanon nabs arms smugglers to Syria

Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:26AM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/207948.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/207948.html)

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The file photo shows a number of smuggled weapons to Syria

Lebanese security forces have arrested two Syrian men involved in smuggling weapons to the neighboring country, Press TV reports.

Lebanese security sources stated Tuesday that the two smugglers were members of a ring that receives money from Syrian opposition groups based in an Arab country of the Persian Gulf to buy weapons on black market, a Press TV correspondent in Beirut reported.

One smuggler was apprehended on Sunday and the second on Tuesday.

The security sources added that the smugglers transported the weapons close to the Syrian border in eastern Lebanon and then handed them over to other groups of smugglers that transferred the arms to troubled spots in Syria.

On October 16, Syrian ambassador told an Arab League meeting in the Egyptian capital Cairo that his country's security forces have seized Israeli weapons trafficked through Lebanon.

Youssef Ahmad said, "They are Israeli made automatic weapons,” which are used by the “armed opposition to kill the sons of our nation.”

Syria has been the scene of what many observers believe to be foreign-manufactured political unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Assad.

Damascus says the unrest has been largely orchestrated by elements that are well-paid and armed by foreign powers. Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

The United Nations says 3,000 people, many of them members of the security forces, have been killed during the unrest.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on November 02, 2011, 06:42:19 AM
There are a number of interesting things involving Turkey going on: The Turks have been giving military protection to a small group of armed Syrian insurgents in southern Turkey...The Turks and the Syrians have been at odds for well over a decade involving water diversion from the Euphrates...The Turks built a series of dams near the Euphrates headwaters, a hydro-electric project...This water is quite important to both Turkish cities in the area and to Syrian agriculture...However, the area in question is claimed by the Kurds.

Also, from Polish Forums, a Turkish group in Germany is demanding a 'free and autonomous Turkish entity' in Germany, with Berlin as the capital...Now, go and figure whether this is just blowing smoke, or whether this is some kind of tactical manouver to keep the German government in line with the EU bailout plan and/or Zionist plans for 'greater Israel'.

http://parisis.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/the-entanglement-of-the-turkish-candidature-to-eu.pdf (http://parisis.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/the-entanglement-of-the-turkish-candidature-to-eu.pdf)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: pope daniel on November 02, 2011, 06:58:17 AM
There are a number of interesting things involving Turkey going on: The Turks have been giving military protection to a small group of armed Syrian insurgents in southern Turkey...The Turks and the Syrians have been at odds for well over a decade involving water diversion from the Euphrates...The Turks built a series of dams near the Euphrates headwaters, a hydro-electric project...This water is quite important to both Turkish cities in the area and to Syrian agriculture...However, the area in question is claimed by the Kurds.


http://parisis.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/the-entanglement-of-the-turkish-candidature-to-eu.pdf (http://parisis.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/the-entanglement-of-the-turkish-candidature-to-eu.pdf)

ahh the good ol pacific islands. never a drought
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 02, 2011, 06:16:00 PM
Hama clashes kill 15 Syrian troops

Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:39PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/208081.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/208081.html)

At least 15 Syrian security troops have been killed in the latest round of violence in the northwestern province of Hama, a rights group has reported.

Seven soldiers were killed after armed groups blew up a roadside bomb in Al-Madiq area on Wednesday as a military van passed by, the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

Eight others were killed in a similar attack on a military convoy on the road between Qaalet al-Madiq and Sqailbiyeh.

Earlier in the day, at least 10 Syrian workers were killed after gunmen attacked a factory in the central province of Homs.

Meanwhile, the Arab League has announced that Syria has accepted a peace plan proposed by the League to end months of unrest in the country, which calls for dialogue between the government and the opposition.

Syria has also agreed to allow foreign journalists, rights groups and Arab League representatives to monitor the situation in the country.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March and according to the United Nations, over 3,000 people have been killed in the violence. Hundreds of Syrian security forces are among those killed.

While the Syrian opposition accuses the security forces of cracking down on what it calls anti-government protesters, Damascus blames the violence on outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups sponsored by foreign countries.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 12, 2011, 11:11:31 AM
Arab League suspends Syria

Published: 12 November, 2011, 17:48
Edited: 12 November, 2011, 22:04
source: http://rt.com/news/arab-league-suspends-syria-179/ (http://rt.com/news/arab-league-suspends-syria-179/)


Yussef al-Ahmad, Damascus' ambassador to the Arab League,
attends on November 12, 2011 an emergency meeting at the organisation's
Cairo headquarters on the situation in Syria (AFP Photo / Khaled Desouki)


The Arab League has voted to suspend Syria from all meetings until Damascus ends its bloody crackdown against anti-government protesters.

Eighteen countries supported the move while Lebanon, Yemen and Syria voted against it and Iraq abstained. The suspension will come into effect on November 16, according to the Qatari Foreign Minister, Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim.

The vote came during an emergency session to discuss Syria’s failure to end a bloody government crackdown on opposition protests. Qatar's foreign minister has called on the Syrian army to stop the violence against civilians.

In turn, Syria's representative to the Arab League, Youssef Ahmed, said the decision to suspend Damascus violated the organization's charter and showed it was “serving a Western and American agenda,” reports Reuters.

Ahmed told Syrian state television that the move to suspend Syria would only have been valid if taken by consensus at a summit meeting of Arab leaders, whereas it was in fact opposed by two delegates at the Arab League meeting.

The League has also warned Syria that it could face sanctions if it fails to end the violence. However, Bin Jassim stressed that "no-one is talking about a no-fly zone – people are trying to mix up the cases. None of us is talking about this kind of decision." In February, the LAS suspended Libya’s membership and went on to propose the enforcement of a no-fly zone over the country.

Michel Chossudovsky, the Director of the Centre for Research on Globalisation, says the League’s decision comes as no surprise.

“These countries are essentially obeying orders emanating from Washington. This is not a decision of the Arab League or the Arab world. It is a decision of Washington and it is there to justify war plans directed against Syria, which are already on the drawing board of the Pentagon,” he said.

On Saturday, hundreds of people gathered in front of the Arab League headquarters in Cairo to demand that it freeze Syrian membership in order to defend civilians in the country.

Protesters carried placards reading "Freedom for the Syrian people" and "Arab leaders are garbage" as they chanted for the removal of Syrian President Bashar Assad. Later they were joined by demonstrators from Yemen protesting at a lethal government crackdown in their country.

The Syrian opposition has been calling for the League to take action against the Assad regime for some time. The suspension deals a powerful symbolic blow to a nation that prides itself on being a powerhouse of Arab nationalism.

On November 2, Syria agreed to a peace plan brokered by the LAS, but the violence has continued unabated, with November shaping up to be the deadliest month yet in Syria's 8-month-long uprising. Since signing up to the League's deal 11 days ago, more than 250 Syrian civilians have been killed amid a bloody siege of the city of Homs.

According to UN estimates, over 3,500 people have been killed in the crackdown since an uprising against the regime of President Bashar Assad began eight months ago, inspired by the revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia.

LW - "no-one is talking about a no-fly zone – people are trying to mix up the cases. None of us is talking about this kind of decision." No...not until Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim mentioned it: I can only translate this (and I'm sure as does every other ME nation), as nothing less than a veiled threat.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 12, 2011, 02:19:59 PM
Syrian protesters storm Saudi embassy

Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:20PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209776.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209776.html)

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Syrian protesters raise their national flag on the roof of the Qatari embassy
in Damascus on November 12, 2011.


Syrian protesters have stormed the Saudi and Qatari embassies in Damascus to voice their outrage at an Arab League's decision to suspend Syria's membership in the Pan-Arab body.

The incident occurred late on Saturday when thousands of people poured into the streets of Damascus to stage protest rallies in front of the Qatari, Saudi, Turkish and US embassies.

Demonstrations were also held in Syria's major cities of Aleppo, Raqqa, Lattakia, Tartous, Hasaka and Sweida.

In Damascus, some protesters broke into the Saudi embassy while some accessed the rooftop of the Qatari embassy building and raised the Syrian national flag.

Others pelted the Qatari facility with tomatoes and eggs to protest against Doha for heading the Arab League emergency session, where the suspension was announced earlier in the day.

Chanting slogans in support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, the protesters then gathered in front of the Turkish and US embassies, condemning the Arab bloc for acting out a plot they said had been hatched by the United States.

A similar protest was held against the Saudi-based Al-Arabiya and the Doha-based Al-Jazeera news channels in the Jordanian capital, Amman.

The angry protesters tried to break into the buildings of news channels, which they blamed for following a US and Israeli agenda against Syria.

The Arab League voted “to suspend Syrian delegations' activities in its meetings” until the peace plan proposed by the body is implemented by the Syrian government.

It also urged Arab countries to recall their ambassadors from Damascus and called for the imposition of economic and political sanctions on Syria.

The announcement of Syria's membership suspension came during an emergency meeting at the League's headquarters in the Egyptian capital, Cairo.

Syria has been experiencing a deadly unrest since mid-March and according to the United Nations, over 3,500 people have been killed in the violence. Hundreds of Syrian security forces are among the dead.

While the Syrian opposition accuses the security forces of cracking down on what it calls anti-government protesters, Damascus blames the violence on outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups sponsored by foreign countries.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 12, 2011, 02:36:38 PM
Poll: 85% of Americans against Iran war

Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:49PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209713.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209713.html)

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Less than a week after the publication of an IAEA report on Tehran's nuclear program, a poll has found that 85 percent of Americans are against military confrontation with Iran.

The poll, conducted by the CBS Broadcasting Inc., also found that more than half of the respondents saw diplomacy as the only means to alleviate Western concerns over Tehran's nuclear program.

In its latest report, published on November 8, the International Atomic Energy Agency accused Iran of conducting activities related to developing nuclear weapons before 2003, adding that these activities “may still be ongoing.”

Iran, however, rejected the report as “unbalanced, unprofessional and prepared with political motivation and under political pressure mostly by the United States.”

Washington and Tel Aviv have repeatedly threatened Tehran with the "option" of a military strike, based on claims that Iran's nuclear program may include a covert military aspect, an allegation that Tehran has categorically refuted.

Iran, however, insists that as a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty and a member of the IAEA it has the right to develop and acquire nuclear technology for peaceful purposes such as electricity generation and medical research.

In addition, the IAEA has conducted numerous inspections of Iran's nuclear facilities but has never found any evidence indicating that Tehran's civilian nuclear program has been diverted towards military objectives.

Iranian officials have promised a crushing response to any military strike against the country, warning that any such measure could result in a war that would spread beyond the Middle East.

LW - Obama & Co could care less. He and his butt buddies know far better.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 12, 2011, 03:15:33 PM
Russia warns West against Syria attack

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source (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209668.html)

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin delivers a speech on Russia's domestic affairs and
foreign policies during a meeting with members of the Valdai international discussion
group of experts in Krasnogorsk, outside the capital, Moscow, November 11, 2011.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has warned the West against any Libya-style military intervention in Syria, describing any such action against Damascus as unacceptable.

In a meeting with members of the Valdai international discussion group of experts , Putin warned that any action against Syria that could cause the same level of destruction seen in Libya would be “quite unacceptable,” the Independent reported.

The Russian premier also lambasted the US, the UK and France's military involvement in Libya, describing the move as a “complete scandal and a complete affront to the international community.”

Earlier on Monday, Putin accused certain Western powers of hypocrisy in their stances on the recent developments in North African countries.

The Russian premier criticized Western powers for backing the revolutions that led to the toppling of North African regimes they had previously supported.

Russia says it will not support any UN Security Council draft resolution against the Syrian government proposed by the Western countries.

Since March, the United States and NATO unleashed a UN-mandated offensive against the then Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi's regime in an alleged attempt to pressure him into giving up power.

Thousands of airstrikes by the Western alliance resulted in the deaths of many Libyan civilians and revolutionary fighters.

AO/AZ/HJL

Putin's moment has come and that is when we find out where his real interests lie and who his bosses are.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 13, 2011, 12:58:10 PM
Syrians furious over looming Mideast isolation

Published: 13 November, 2011, 22:23
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-arab-league-isolation-219/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-arab-league-isolation-219/)


Syrians protest outside the Qatari Embassy in Damascus on
November 12, 2011, hours after a statement, read by
Qatari Prime Minister Hamad bin Jassem Al-Thani, said
the Arab League had decided "to suspend Syrian delegations'
activities in Arab League meetings" and to implement
"economic and political sanctions" against Damascus
(AFP Photo / LOUAI BESHARA)


As massive pro-Assad demonstrations continue across Syria, Damascus has called for an emergency meeting of Arab League heads of state in an apparent attempt to avert its suspension from the regional bloc.

According to state Syrian media, millions of people took to the streets of major Syrian cities on Sunday to protest the Arab League decision to suspend Syria’s membership in the organization due to the ongoing violence in the country.

After holding a demonstration in the center of Damascus, many protesters made their way to the embassies of the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Demonstrators chanted a slogan that has become recognizable in the last few days: “Allah, Syria, Bashar!”

On Sunday, the head of the 22-member Arab League said the bloc is considering creating a mechanism for protecting Syria’s civilian population. Secretary-General Nabil al-Arabi did not elaborate on the details.

According to Syria’s opposition, security forces killed 26 people across the country on Sunday.

A photo released by Syria′s official news agency (SANA) shows Syrian′s rally to show their support for their President Bashar al-Assad in Hasaka, northeast Syria, on November 13, 2011, a day after the Arab League suspends Syria until President Bashar al-Assad implements an Arab deal to end violence against protesters, calling for sanctions and transition talks with the opposition (AFP Photo / /HO-SANA)
A photo released by Syria's official news agency (SANA) shows Syrian's rally to show their support for their President Bashar al-Assad in Hasaka, northeast Syria, on November 13, 2011, a day after the Arab League suspends Syria until President Bashar al-Assad implements an Arab deal to end violence against protesters, calling for sanctions and transition talks with the opposition (AFP Photo / /HO-SANA)

Following the Arab League’s decision to suspend Syria on Saturday, pro-Assad demonstrators attacked several foreign diplomatic offices, including Saudi and Qatari embassies, Turkish and French diplomatic outposts across the country.

France and Turkey summoned Syria’s envoys on Sunday to condemn the attacks. Paris labeled them as an attempt to “threaten the international community.”

The Arab League met in Cairo on Saturday to discuss Syrian President Bashar Assad's violent crackdown on dissidents, which has claimed more than 3,500 lives over the past eight months according to the UN. The regional bloc gave Syria a three-day deadline to end the crackdown or face sanctions. Should Damascus fail to comply, the League will suspend its membership on November 16.

Arab ambassadors were shifted from Damascus and all political contact with the country was blocked. The League also threatened Syria with economic sanctions.

Damascus criticized the League’s decision, saying the West was trying to use it as a weapon against Syria.

In February, the Arab League suspended Libya’s membership due to the ongoing violence there, eventually helping NATO to get the backing of the UN Security Council for its no-fly zone.

Anti-government protests have been raging in Syria for the past eight months – they started in the south of the country in March 2011 and then spread to other regions of the country. In some regions the demonstrations have turned violent.

Most people in the opposition are demanding that Bashar Assad steps down. The claim is backed by the US and EU countries that have imposed a number of economic sanctions on Syria.

Political analyst Dan Glazebrook told RT that Syria should welcome possible suspension from the Arab League and labeled some of its members as “the agents of neocolonialism in the Arab World.”

The Western media is deliberately exaggerating the strength of the opposition movement, he said, portraying it as a peaceful protest against a dictator while neglecting far-bigger demonstrations in support of President Assad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 13, 2011, 02:24:57 PM
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The Western media is deliberately exaggerating the strength of the opposition movement, he said, portraying it as a peaceful protest against a dictator while neglecting far-bigger demonstrations in support of President Assad.

For a dying industry, our 'owned' press still has a hell of a lot of clout with elite politicians, they can freely exaggerate or downplay any situation they want. 
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 14, 2011, 07:43:56 PM
Libyan scenario unfolding in Syria

Published: 14 November, 2011, 17:02
source: http://rt.com/news/libyan-scenario-in-syria-275/ (http://rt.com/news/libyan-scenario-in-syria-275/)


Damascus: Syrians hold up a large national flags as they
rally to show their support for their President Bashar al-Assad
in the capital in Damascus. (AFP Photo/Louai Beshara)


The “illegitimate” decision to suspend Syria from the Arab League has received wide support from the EU and the US. Russia, however, has strongly opposed the measure, which is starting to look like another step on the road to a Libya-style scenario.

During a press conference on Monday, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Al-Moallem said that “Libya's scenario will not be repeated” in Syria despite the Arab League's decision, which he called a “conspiracy that is bound to fail.”

“The Arab League vote to suspend Syria's membership was an illegitimate decision prompted by American incitement,” al-Moallem said, as cited by Al-Arabiya. He added that it was reached “under a plan announced about a month ago.”

“Syria has other cards to play if Arab states decide to become conspirators,” the Syrian FM stated.

Nevertheless, Al-Moallem says he still believes in “united Arab action” and said he would welcome Arab League officials and military and civilian observers to visit Syria this week to supervise the implementation of an Arab League roadmap for ending the bloodshed.

Meanwhile in an interview carried by a British news outlet, Jordan’s King Abdullah has called on Syrian President Bashar Assad to resign.

Before Syria was suspended, the two sides – Assad’s regime and the Arab League committee – reached an agreement on how to stop the violence in the country. The League demanded that tanks be pulled off the streets and that a dialogue be opened with the opposition – measures which the authorities vowed to carry out.

However since agreeing to the deal, more than 250 Syrian civilians are reported to have been killed amid a bloody siege of the city of Homs.

The vote to suspend Syria came during an emergency session of the League on November 12 called to discuss Syria’s failure to end the violence. Eighteen countries supported the move while Lebanon, Yemen and Syria voted against it and Iraq abstained.

On Monday, the European Union moved to impose additional sanctions on 18 Syrian “individuals responsible for or associated with the repression and supporting or benefiting from the regime.” The statement said the EU continues to be deeply concerned by the deteriorating situation in Syria.

“The EU again condemns in the strongest terms the ongoing brutal repression and widespread human rights violations,” it read.

Brussels had already imposed sanctions on 56 Syrians and 19 organizations over the ongoing government crackdown on the anti-Assad uprising.
 Isolate and invade

Syria has called an emergency meeting of the League in an attempt to reverse the decision which saw it kicked out of the organization. The suspension and accompanying sanctions are due to come into force on Wednesday.

Syria is the second nation to be expelled from the League this year. Libya’s suspension from the regional bloc in February was swiftly followed by a UN Security Council resolution which opened the way for NATO’s intervention in the sovereign state.

Meanwhile, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov expressed Russia’s dismay at the League’s decision to suspend Syria.

“We think it is wrong, and it looks like a planned move,” Lavrov said. “Those who took the decision have lost a very important opportunity to redirect the situation onto a more transparent course.”

Lavrov added that a radical opposition movement in Syria had been incited to overthrow the government and said arms were being smuggled into the country for use by extremists.

Russia has repeatedly pledged to prevent a Libya-style scenario unfolding in Syria and backed up its promise by vetoing the UN resolution on Syria on October 5. The move caused outrage among the majority of the UNSC member states.

Syria was one of the founders of the Arab League, and its sudden suspension has triggered pro-Assad demonstrations in Syria and attacks on the Turkish, French and Saudi Arabian embassies in Damascus.

Commenting on the attacks on its missions, Turkey said it would take a “decisive attitude” and continue to support the Syrian people's rightful struggle for freedoms and reforms. Earlier, Turkey welcomed the decision of the Arab League.

Independent web journalist James Corbett believes that the Arab League suspension of Syria brings the West a step closer to achieving its goal of regime change in Damascus.

“With this Arab League suspension I think we see a dangerous new moment where perhaps even a military intervention is definitely on the table,” he told RT.

As Damascus is a key ally of Tehran, possible intervention in Syria would have to be seen as a “pre-strike on Iran,” Corbett explains. “Destabilization of the Syrian regime would further isolate Iran which is already surrounded by NATO forces.”
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on November 16, 2011, 07:11:57 AM
Good scholarly analysis here, deep background, 'names names' of Zionist collaborators...

Mask of Zion

Syria Under Fire: Zionist Destabilization Hits Critical Mass

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by Jonathan Azaziah

Since 2004, the Zionist entity’s Mossad and its American partners in the Zionist-founded, Zionist-run National Endowment for Democracy (NED) have funded, armed and trained various opposition factions in Syria, spawning an army of ‘democracy-seeking activists’ ready to mobilize on command. An operations team was assembled by the House of Saud and the usurping Israeli regime, working together with a closeness most would have never imagined to be possible, and an HQ was established in Brussels with various satellites inaugurated in America and Britain just prior to the inception of the ‘Syrian Revolution.’ Leading this team are Zionists US Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Jeffery Feltman and US Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro, former Lebanese Prime Minister Sa’ad Hariri, influential, US-based Zionist Syrian exiles Farid al-Ghadry and Ammar Abdulhamid, the well-connected ex-Syrian VP, Abdel-Halim Khaddam and of course, the powerful Syrian Muslim Brotherhood .

 Bashar al-Assad, Syria’s immensely popular President, is in the crosshairs of an axis bent on transforming the Middle East into an extension of the illegitimate entity currently occupying al-Quds. He, along with the Islamic Resistance of Lebanon, the Islamic Republic of Iran and what is left of the Islamic Resistance of Gaza, make up the counter-axis; the Axis of Resistance standing in the way of Zionism and its aims of conquest. Syria is under the heaviest fire it has ever been under; even heavier than the plot that the Israeli-Saudi partnership attempted to execute against Hafez al-Assad, Bashar’s father, from 1976-1982 . And as the fire continues to burn through Syrian society, Zionist destabilization has hit critical mass. The plot to take down Syria which the usurping entity has actively and vigorously pursued for decades is dangerously close to coming to fruition.


Israel, Saudi Arabia And America: Demanding Regime Change In Unison

 From the moment that the unrest in Syria exploded, Tel Aviv, through its tremendously venomous and wide-reaching media apparatus, unleashed one of its many ‘kisses of death’ against Bashar al-Assad and his government, labeling him its “favorite dictator .” This piece of pernicious hasbara was disseminated far and wide with the intent of not only turning the Syrian people against Bashar al-Assad, but to mask any Israeli involvement in Syria in the eyes of the international onlookers, developing an atmosphere of bewilderment and psychological warfare. The calculated move proved successful and the Zionist regime provided perfect cover for covert Israeli special forces, who have been on the ground since August 2007 . And then, as the world was looking away, Zionism lowered the boom.

 It began on July 20th, when Israeli Prime Minister and mass murdering war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu offered his support to ‘protesters’ in Syria by stating, “the young people of Syria deserve a better future” and he went on with his usual diatribe against Syria for standing with Iran and Hezbollah. Ominously, Netanyahu also stated that it would be “bad for the people of Lebanon, bad for the people of Syria and bad for peace” if attention was shifted away from the unrest in Syria. The subtle words of Netanyahu were not what was most disturbing though. It was who the words were delivered to. And that who was Al-Arabiya News , the malicious Saudi propaganda outlet owned and run by the brother-in-law and son of the ex-Saudi tyrant, ‘King’ Fahd . The rare interview was an important revelation, exposing the public Israeli-Saudi working relationship.

 Next up was an amplification on July 26th, when godfather of the Zionist nuclear program, war criminal, massacrer of Qana and Israeli President Shimon Peres stated in no uncertain terms, “Bashar al-Assad must go. The sooner he will leave, the better it will be for his people.” Peres also went on to say that regime change will lay down the groundwork for an eventual ‘peace’ treaty between Syria and the vile Zionist occupation. Who did Shimon Peres deliver this declaration of overthrow to? Arab media (undoubtedly dominated by the Saudi-Qatari alliance), in an ‘unprecedented’ press conference .

The Saudi-Israeli Alliance:demolishing Syria under the guise of 'democracy.'

Following the example of his partners in Tel Aviv, ‘King’ Abdullah of Saudi Arabia weighed in on August 8th. He recalled the Saudi Ambassador to Syria and issued an ultimatum to Bashar al-Assad, “The future of Syria lies between two options: either Syria chooses willingly to resort to reason, or face being swept into deep chaos.” Translation: Step down now or be destroyed. Going further, ‘King’ Abdullah demanded that the “Syrian killing machine” halt its operations and said that “what is happening in Syria is not acceptable to Saudi Arabia .” The Kuwait and Bahrain monarchical dictatorships abided by the orders put forth by GCC figurehead Saudi Arabia and recalled their ambassadors to Syria as well . The events in Syria aren’t acceptable to the Saudi tyrant because the operation to take down Bashar al-Assad isn’t successful yet; the tyrant is growing impatient. Not mentioned by the tyrant is his regime’s excessive participation in the unrest and that his Ministry of Defense has formed a council whose specific goal is to drive Syria into a chaotic state of civil war .
                                 
 The “killing machine” spoken of by the Saudi despot is in reference to what the Zionist media calls the “Ramadan Massacre.” In a desperate attempt to garner international Muslim support during Islam’s holiest month, the Zionist media has peddled unverified, reactionary, sensationalist claims that Syrian security forces have massacred hundreds of ‘protesters’ in the Muslim Brotherhood stronghold of Hama .

 The truth, something that the Zionist propaganda machine has never been concerned with, has been systematically repressed. An insurrectionist named Nader Hassan al-Kattan has confessed to being part of an organized terrorist operation in Hama, consisting of multiple units, in which he was paid $5,000.00 a day for his services. The operation consisted of the targeting of security personnel and civilians alike, for the sake of triggering all-out mayhem on Hama’s streets. Al-Kattan says he was recruited by a man named Mohammad Noir . Mask of Zion’s Syrian sources have confirmed that Mohammad Noir is a disciple of Mossad asset Muthanna al-Dhari, detained earlier in the uprising by Syrian security forces for attempting to coordinate false flag bombings with Israeli intelligence . It is clear that even without its leader, al-Dhari’s Zionist-backed network is alive and well.

America stands with the usurping Israeli entity and the House of Saud in an axis against Syria.

The US government, just days after extending a fourth round of crippling sanctions against Bashar al-Assad and his closest associates in cohesion with its fellow Zionist allies in the European Union , has now adopted the position of its Israeli masters and Saudi partners and is set to demand the departure of Bashar al-Assad, with a White House mouthpiece stating, “You can't have any kind of partnership with a regime that does this kind of thing to innocents .” The ‘mother’ of all Zionist mouthpieces, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, recently declared, “Syria will be a better place when a democratic transition goes forward .” The Zionist-Saudi axis’ Syrian opposition has already formed a 25-member ‘National Salvation Council,’ with one committee functioning as a lobbying agency to drum up support to overthrow al-Assad’s government . The Zionist-occupied US government has initiated the next step and is seeking to convert the ‘National Salvation Council’ into a ‘Syrian Transitional Council,’ just like the NATO-Israeli-backed puppet regime fighting Muammar Qaddafi in Libya .

Read the rest:
http://www.maskofzion.com/2011/08/syria-under-fire-zionist.html (http://www.maskofzion.com/2011/08/syria-under-fire-zionist.html)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 17, 2011, 07:27:10 AM
Good scholarly analysis here, deep background, 'names names' of Zionist collaborators...

Excellent analysis. Thx.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 17, 2011, 07:30:21 AM
US plot to wage Syria war revealed

Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:32AM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210597.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210597.html)

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Syrian demonstrators in Damascus protest against the Arab League decision to
suspend Syria's membership, November 13, 2011.


Informed sources in Syria say they have discovered a pre-fabricated US scenario for the country's future, seeking to wage war against the nation from various fronts, Press TV reports
.

The sources said the US strategy includes attacks on Syrian diplomatic missions abroad. According to the American scenario, the Syrian opposition abroad would engage in taking over the country's diplomatic missions and use them as bases for directing and carrying out terrorist activities within the country.

The US plan is set to refer Syria to UN's human rights commission and the General Assembly on November 23 as well as the the International Criminal Court in an effort to formally declare the Damascus government as a "war criminal," sources say.

The American scenario also provides a role for Turkey in a NATO defense ministers' meeting, in which Ankara would be commissioned to move its forces across the Syrian border in an effort to establish a buffer zone inside Syria and facilitate the supply of weaponry and arms to the so-called 'contra forces' inside the country and trigger insurgency activities and potentially a civil war across the nation.

Wahhabi insurgents based in the Syrian city of Tripoli would then launch attacks on the border villages of the country.

Moreover, the Syrian sources said, the US scheme provides that the Israeli regime, along with Jordan, would also declare their readiness to engage in military operations against Damascus.

The latest discovery comes as the Arab League (AL) announced the suspension of Syria during an emergency session in the Egyptian capital of Cairo on Saturday and called for the imposition of sanctions against Syria.

Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem has described the AL decision as “illegitimate and dangerous.”

The Arab League has also proposed to dispatch an observer mission of 30-50 members to Syria in a supposed effort to end unrest in the country.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations held both in favor of and against President Bashar al-Assad.

Millions of Syrians took to the streets in several cities across the country on Sunday to condemn the Arab League decision and its siding with US-led anti-Syria measures. Demonstrators also expressed their support for the government of President Assad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on November 17, 2011, 07:31:01 AM
All this Arab Spring garbage is about preparing for an attack on Iran
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 17, 2011, 07:37:59 AM
League lock-out: neighbors sanction Syria

Published: 17 November, 2011, 10:37
Edited: 17 November, 2011, 20:03
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-arab-league-assad-541/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-arab-league-assad-541/)


A protestor uses a megaphone during a demonstration against the
regime of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad (AFP Photo / BEN STANSALL)


Syria’s president has until Saturday to stop the violent crackdown on protesters and allow a monitoring team into the country, demands the Arab League, which threatens to tighten the financial noose around the regime by slapping down heavy sanctions.

­And while the drum-beat for international pressure against Bashar al-Assad gets louder, there are fears this may only make a bad situation worse.

On Thursday, governmental forces raided the restive Hama province, where Syrian Army defectors attacked an army checkpoint the previous day, protesters reported. The so-called “Free Syria Army” claims to have 25,000 members currently.

Earlier Assad’s supporters attacked several embassies in Damascus following country’s suspension by the Arab League. The risky situation prompted France to recall its ambassador from the country.

Turkey, which once supported Assad’s government, now says it plans to suspend joint oil exploration and is considering stopping electricity supplies to Syria.

As the international pressure on Syria rises, there are growing fears that it may follow the Libyan scenario.

London-based human rights group the Syrian Observatory wants both a buffer zone and a Libyan-style no-fly zone in Syria. The call, however, is so far unlikely to gain UN Security Council support. A previous draft resolution on Syria sponsored by Europe had been vetoed by Russia and China.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry said Thursday that it is greatly concerned over the situation and the ongoing violence. But ministerial spokesman Liu Weimin stressed that any possible Security Council action regarding Syria would have to help ease tensions and solve the crisis through political means.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov called on the Arab League to make it clear that it wants the violence stopped from both sides of the conflict.

“The violence in Syria comes not from the governmental structures only. There is an in creasing amount of weaponry there smuggled from neighboring countries,” he said on Thursday. The Arab League’s members should “come up with a demand not only for the government, but also to the Syrian opposition to stop violence.”

He added that the League’s observers and the media, which Assad’s government agreed to allow into the country, will have to monitor both sides to see how this demand is met.

The pressure on Syria from the Arab League is being seen by some as little more than doing the West's bidding, says Russia's envoy to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin.

“Many countries that now call the shots in the Arab League are closely connected with top Western powers. Qatar, which actually hosted all the latest Arab League sessions, is a country that fought in Libya; it makes no secret of the fact that its special operations forces were among the rebels,” he pointed out.

Even in Israel – Syria’s arch enemy – some would rather Assad stayed in power.

“The Alawites have been doing us a favor, doing Israel a favor, of course this is not understood this way commonly, but they’ve essentially been going us a favor by keeping this population under control and if they go, it’s going to be an explosion,” said Professor John Myhill from the University of Haifa.

While the Arab League has stopped short of calling for Syrian President’s departure, critics say their stance is nothing short of hypocrisy.

“They have no democracy or at least, some of them, they don’t have constitution, and at the same time they are asking Syria to modify constitution and to develop the democracy that they are having. It is ironic and paradox [sic] at the same time,” Ali Hamdan points out.

What is more, Assad has shown he is willing to conduct reforms. But it is not clear the Arab League has the patience to listen.

And neither do Western leaders, who decided a long time ago Assad needs to go. Without the option to do it through the United Nations, the Arab League is their next best option.

However, Lindsey German from the Stop the War Coalition told RT before the West uses the Arab league to justify a Syrian intervention, the lessons of Libya should be learned.

“We should learn the lesson of Libya, that thousands and thousands of civilians died after the NATO bombing began, and NATO bombing or any other military intervention in Syria will have even more serious consequences because of the regional setup, because the whole question of Iran, the whole question of Israel, will all come to the fore, and I believe will lead to a much more substantial war in the region, which is the last thing that anybody really needs.”

LW - Looks like the Zionist/US/UK is moving full speed ahead. Same ol' modus operandi in play. Will WW3 be the Christmas gift for the banksters from Obama & his merry band of madmen?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 17, 2011, 07:46:14 AM
Cameron of Arabia, Sarkozy of Damascus

Published: 17 November, 2011, 18:39
source: http://rt.com/news/uk-france-diplomatic-assault-579/ (http://rt.com/news/uk-france-diplomatic-assault-579/)

The UK is reportedly being urged by Jordan’s king to lead a “diplomatic drive” to remove the Assad regime in Damascus. France, a key partner in the campaign to kill the Gaddafi regime, is also on the list of would-be captains of an anti-Assad push.

"The West needs to lead and the international community needs to talk about what to do when the dam bursts in Syria," senior Arab diplomatic sources told British media – a sign that no peaceful solution is expected to what Russian FM Lavrov says is now a civil war in Syria.

The news emerged following the talks between British PM David Cameron and the Jordanian King, the first Arab leader to publicly call for Syrian President to step down.

London and Paris were behind a draft UN Security Council resolution, which would have condemned Assad for the bloody crackdown on the opposition in Syria. Russia and China said the proposal was one-sided and failed to mention increasingly deadly violence by the anti-Assad opposition, and vetoed the text.

Recently the Syrian Free Army, a Sunni opposition paramilitary organization claiming 15,000 members, claimed to have attacked a Syrian Army military base in one of the bloodiest days of unrest to date.

The Syrian government blames extremist bandit groups armed with weapons smuggled in by foreign government agents of whipping up the bloodshed and derailing efforts to begin political reforms pledged by Assad.

The European Union has issued several rounds of sanctions against Damascus in a bid to force it stop its crackdown on the opposition. But this has done little to stop the bloodshed which has cost at least 3,500 lives.

Assad now has until Saturday to convince the Arab League he is halting crackdowns on protesters, while radical armed opposition grows against him, lest he face more isolation and sanctions.

At the moment the diplomatic offensive on Syria is verbal and no military activity has been mentioned. But a British/French-led offensive was key to the operation in Libya, where military intervention followed similar diplomatic choreography.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on November 17, 2011, 08:22:44 AM
League lock-out: neighbors sanction Syria


“Many countries that now call the shots in the Arab League are closely connected with top Western powers. Qatar, which actually hosted all the latest Arab League sessions, is a country that fought in Libya; it makes no secret of the fact that its special operations forces were among the rebels,” he pointed out.

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Rothschild opens office in Qatar Financial Centre
Publish Date: Friday,15 January, 2010, at 12:28 PM Doha Time


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David Rene Rothschild in conversation with other officials at the opening ceremony

Rothschild, a leading independent UK investment bank that provides corporate finance advisory services, has opened an office in the Qatar Financial Centre as part of expansion in the Middle East.

The new office was officially opened on Sunday by Rothschild chairman, Baron David de Rothschild. It has been allocated QFC Licence No 116.

Stressing that Qatari economy is one of the strongest in the region; Rothschild said its business model was focused on building long-term relationships.

“We are confident that by establishing an on-the-ground presence we will be well positioned to fortify our relationships with Qatari institutions and assist in the diversification and development of the economy,” he said.

Since establishing a presence in the Middle East, Rothschild has become an advisor of choice for government, government-related entities and private sector institutions operating in the region, according to Christopher Hawley, senior executive officer, Rothschild Qatar.

“The opening of an office in Qatar reaffirms our long-term commitment to the region and provides us with an opportunity to offer our Qatar-based clients the very best impartial, strategic advice to meet the needs of a developing economy,” he added.

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Even in Israel – Syria’s arch enemy – some would rather Assad stayed in power.

“The Alawites have been doing us a favor, doing Israel a favor, of course this is not understood this way commonly, but they’ve essentially been going us a favor by keeping this population under control and if they go, it’s going to be an explosion,” said Professor John Myhill from the University of Haifa.



This is true...I don't think that Israel alone is directing this...It comes from London and Washington.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 17, 2011, 08:26:07 AM
@ general

Wars and Finance are about the only growth industries left....
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on November 17, 2011, 10:14:52 AM
This is true...I don't think that Israel alone is directing this...It comes from London and Washington.

Of course they aren't working alone, but if Syria is attacked will the Rus intervene to save their naval base?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on November 17, 2011, 10:39:36 AM
Of course they aren't working alone, but if Syria is attacked will the Rus intervene to save their naval base?

I think the Russians will have to do something...Not to would be a big show of weakness.
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Post by: Sue on November 17, 2011, 12:41:30 PM
I think the Russians will have to do something...Not to would be a big show of weakness.

Knowing that there are no friends in politics, only interests, makes one wonder where China and Russia really stand?

All I can see down the road is a One World Order, One World currency and a lot more poverty.

We are living under Communism lite, ie  Bolshevism.

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ROBERTS, STEPHEN H. 20th century Australian historian. Though hostile on almost every point to National Socialism, 'The House that Hitler Built' does admit that Jews were a menace in Germany:

    "It is useless to deny that grave Jewish problems existed in Germany. The nation was in the unfortunate geographical position of being the first stage in the perennial push westward of the Polish Jews. Unless forced on, they tended to stop in Berlin and Hamburg, where they obtained an unduly share of good professional positions.

In Berlin, for example, when the Nazis came to power, 50.2 percent of the lawyers were Jews. In medicine, 48 per cent of the doctors were Jews, and it was said that they systematically seized the principal hospital posts. The Jews owned the largest and most important Berlin newspapers, and they had made great inroads on the educational system."

THAT was THEN. Just look today...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on November 17, 2011, 12:49:35 PM
Knowing that there are no friends in politics, only interests, makes one wonder where China and Russia really stand?

I think bottom line is neither Russia or China want war, they just want to do business, but they are both surrounded by US bases, and the Western/Zionist bankers want to rule the world in terms of the control of currency and trade...So what happens when the US/NATO, security police for bankers, or whatever configuration you want gets too bold and pushes them just a little too far, shits in their front yard, so to speak?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 17, 2011, 01:09:57 PM
I think bottom line is neither Russia or China want war, they just want to do business, but they are both surrounded by US bases, and the Western/Zionist bankers want to rule the world in terms of the control of currency and trade...So what happens when the US/NATO, security police for bankers, or whatever configuration you want gets too bold and pushes them just a little too far, $h^ts in their front yard, so to speak?

Correct, no war, fair trade, that is the only way to go.

I don't think that any sane people want war. I don't even believe that Jews would be dumb enough to pull a Sampson option. What benefits would they get out of it? None. Those are just scare tactics. What IS important to Jews is a very lucrative Antisemitism.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 18, 2011, 01:16:12 PM
Turkey tough-loving Syria?

Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:57PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210649.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210649.html)

By Arash Zahedi

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Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan (L) and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad

In one of its latest moves against the Syrian government and in the name of “democracy” for the Syrian people, Turkey has agreed to the Syrian opposition opening offices in Istanbul.

Adding fuel to the flame that is burning the relations of the two states is the recent remarks of Turkish officials about Syria's leadership. They have said everything, from issuing warnings to cut the export of electricity to Syria to such remarks as Bashar al-Assad having to pay dearly for -- as the Turks say -- his “oppressing policies” and to even likening Assad's fate to that of Libya's ex-ruler Muammar Gaddafi.

Turkey has truly been successful in highlighting its role as an influential, regional and international player in the recent world developments. Numerous are the instances of Ankara's involvement in regional and extra-regional issues, in which it has tried to develop ties especially with its neighbors, bring conflicts to an end (such as the ones in Afghanistan and Pakistan) or defuse decades-long tensions (like the ones Ankara had with Armenia, Greece and even Syria).

However, the role Turkey has taken in the face of the very current Arab uprisings has left many wondering whether it was in line with its previous stances or it had a complete change of heart.

To be perfectly honest, the question is why would Turkey jeopardize its regionally supported role through which it has gained a lot? Wasn't it this role, especially through Damascus's cooperation, that won Ankara an upper hand against their constant threat, Kurdistan's Workers Party or the PKK? And perhaps most importantly these days, what business is Turkey following in the Arab League?

It might be argued that countries should act in line with their national interests. But what in Syria is up for grabs for Turkey, at least at this point, is not very clear. True, Assad's government does have dissidents. But it has supporters, too. Harboring a neighbor's opposition, considering buffer zones for their activities, like the not very successful attempt in Jisr al-Shugur, and trying to topple a government there, will make the chain of events extremely hard and costly -- if not impossible -- for Ankara and is definitely not in line with Turkey's national interests, though it might be for some.

Ankara has recently been trying to portray itself as an advocate of democracy, showing support for democracy-seeking movements in the region. And by region, one thinks of many countries. We have seen more or less the same events in Bahrain, Yemen and even Saudi Arabia after, of course, the fall of the Tunisian and Egyptian regimes.

However, surprisingly, it was to some extent in Libya and to a great extent in Syria today that Ankara is identifying with the popular uprising. And why it does not and has not let out the same cries for Bahrainis and Yemenis brings to mind the idea that perhaps things other than merely supporting popular movements exist within the foreign policy doctrine of Turkey.

Turkish Prime Minister and Head of the country's ruling and Islam-inspired Justice and Development Party (AKP) Recep Tayyip Erdogan visited Libya and Egypt in September. In his Cairo visit, Erdogan spoke of the need of secularism in drawing up the new Egyptian constitution. In addition to upsetting Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, considered the largest and the best-organized political force in the country, his remarks stunned many in Turkey as well.

Ankara has more recently used the same rhetoric for other Arab nations. In the case of Syria, it is supporting people like Burhan Ghalioun, known for their laicism.

Ironically, AKP owes its rule to the votes of its Islam-loving citizens who chose it after they had enough of the left and right parties. The party knows very well that the same people are its invaluable assets.

Even more ironic is the fact that some of the political prisoners in Turkey, a number of them journalists, are supporters of secularism who criticize AKP's version of democracy and the fact that the party is religion-oriented. Such people, it seems, have to be released as far as the country supports laicism and democracy.

The fact of the matter is that such issues do not come from Turkey as argued. They originate from elsewhere. From parties who have long opposed the rule of religion in the state, who have experienced the intensity of religious opposition and resistance and who now fear Islam becoming the backbone of the new emerging political systems in the region, after being well indicated in the recent voting in Tunisia, thus threatening their very existence in the region.

It has occurred to many now that perhaps Turkey is playing the wrong hand in this regional game. A hand, already given to other regional players such as Saudi Arabia that wins only for the West and will eventually disorient Turkey.

It is such a pity that a country that has come a long way to reach its current, indeed paramount standing in the region and without a doubt in the world, and that, unlike many others, has learnt to look both to the East and West and not only the West, falls for this secondhand role it is asked to play.

It will truly leave a lot to be desired, if Ankara maintains its most recent stances which, at the end of the day, might spell the end for a Turkish foreign policy which prioritizes zero tension with its neighbors while safeguarding its national interests.

-- Arash Zahedi is a Tehran-based political analyst and broadcaster.

LW - 'It has occurred to many now that perhaps Turkey is playing the wrong hand in this regional game.' I suppose that from the perspective of the PTBs it is the right course. In terms of honesty, well, of what value is that to them?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 19, 2011, 06:53:50 AM
Russia sends warships to Syrian waters

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:8PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210934.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210934.html)

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Russian warships expected to enter Syria. (File photo)

Russia is sending its warships to Syrian waters in a move aimed at preventing any foreign attacks against Syrian territories.

According to Russian sources, the recent move conveys the message that Moscow will block any NATO-led attack under the guise of “humanitarian intervention,” The Nation reported.

Russia has been voicing support for Syria, which it says is currently going through a civil war.

The Western military alliance, NATO, has been making efforts to demonize the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his forces, while downplaying attacks by opposition forces.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has also recently warned the West against any 'Libya-style' military intervention in Syria.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of Syrian President Assad.

According to the United Nations more than 3,000 people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

The opposition and Western countries accuse Syrian security forces of being behind the killings in the country, but the government blames what it describes as outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

LW - A token gesture or true ally?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 19, 2011, 06:47:18 PM
Russia sends warships to Syrian waters

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:8PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210934.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210934.html)

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Russian warships expected to enter Syria. (File photo)

Russia is sending its warships to Syrian waters in a move aimed at preventing any foreign attacks against Syrian territories.

LW - A token gesture or true ally?[/color]

At some point (if and when the sh*t hits the fan) we will no doubt find out. Meanwhile, we can hope.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 19, 2011, 08:42:46 PM
At some point (if and when the sh*t hits the fan) we will no doubt find out. Meanwhile, we can hope.

Hmm... the Jews are probably debating whether they should do another USS Cole?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 19, 2011, 09:03:33 PM
Hmm... the Jews are probably debating whether they should do another USS Cole?

Who knows for sure, except we do know that they are capable and if it serves them, they will.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 19, 2011, 10:21:37 PM
Who knows for sure, except we do know that they are capable and if it serves them, they will.


There's a better than 50% chance the Jews will hit a Russian ship.


The Scorpion and The Toad

The scorpion, in the course of a long journey, encounters a river. The scorpion cannot swim and so he is momentarily stymied until he spies the toad, on the opposite river bank. "Toad!" the scorpion calls out, "will you please let me ride on your back to the other side of the river because, you see, I cannot swim." "No way," replied the toad, "if I let you ride on my back you will sting me!" To which the scorpion replied, "But if I am riding on your back and I sting you then we will both die because I cannot swim." After thinking on it for a moment or two the toad agrees, swims over to the opposite bank of the river where the scorpion jumps onto his back and he turns to swim to the other side. When the toad, with the scorpion riding on his back, gets to the middle of the river, the scorpion stings him. "Scorpion!" Exclaimed the toad, "Why did you sting me? Now we both die."

"Because it is in my nature." Was the scorpion's response.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Jan Robertson on November 20, 2011, 12:03:27 AM
Syria is safe from all out war as in Libya et al because they are controlled through a rothschild central banking system that can 'break' them anytime they choose ... all of this will turn out to be an attention diversion, sabre rattling, and more sanctions.

Globalization is almost complete, we've left it too late to make a difference ... time to switch to 'change' where we CAN make a difference ... OURSELVES.

(If) the globalists run true to form here is the scenario for the next bank take-overs:

Rothschild-owned Central Banks in All But Three countries in 2011

Posted: 2011/11/10

http://mathaba.net/go/?http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2011/11/rothschild-owned-central-banks-in-all.html       
 
 The only countries left without a Central Bank currently are Cuba, North Korea and Iran.

By Mike Philbin

As of the year 2000, there were seven countries without a Rothschild-owned Central Bank:

Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran

Then along came the convenient terror of 9-11 and soon Iraq and Afghanistan had been added to the list, leaving only five countries without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family:

Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran

We all know how fast the Central Bank of Benghazi was set up.
The only countries left in 2011 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family are:

Cuba
North Korea
Iran

And these mono-maniacal speculators in the west, via their nuke-weaponed ally Israel, are blatantly gagging to get that "Central Bank of Iran" set up... you know it.
 
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 20, 2011, 08:26:16 AM
Syria is safe from all out war as in Libya et al because they are controlled through a rothschild central banking system that can 'break' them anytime they choose ... all of this will turn out to be an attention diversion, sabre rattling, and more sanctions.

There are times when a Rothschild may not like the management of a branch office...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 20, 2011, 09:54:06 AM
'AL, tool dragging Syria crisis to UNSC'

Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:59PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/211162.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/211162.html)

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Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem speaks at a press conference in the capital Damascus on November 20, 2011.

Syria's Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem has hit out at the Arab League and said the organization is being used as a "tool" to take the Syrian crisis to the UN Security Council.

In a news conference in the capital Damascus on Sunday, Muallem said that an Arab League plan to send observers into the country needed clarification before Syria signs on, CNN reported.

"I would like to make the situation clear between us so that ... a proper decision is taken. The situation does not bear or require hastiness or reaction," the Syrian foreign minister said.

He added, "There is no room for hasty decisions but rational thinking is needed because there are some parts of the Arab world which are using the Arab League as a tool to reach the Security Council."

He also criticized the AL stance on Syria, and stressed that "armed groups" were responsible for the unrest in his country.

"The Arab League, they ignore the presence of armed groups, the terrorist armed groups who kill the people, and if they would recognize the presence of such groups they would not have conducted themselves in the way they are behaving," he said.

Muallem gave assurances that there would not be a civil war in Syria.

Meanwhile, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said the country would not bow down to foreign pressure and that any military intervention in Syria would have "very dire" consequences.

"The conflict will continue and the pressure to subjugate Syria will continue," Assad told The Sunday Times.

He added, "However, I assure you that Syria will not bow down and that it will continue to resist the pressure being imposed on it."

Assad vowed he would personally fight and die to resist foreign forces. He also accused the Arab League of helping pave the way for Western intervention.

Unrest started in Syria in mid-March, claiming the lives of hundreds of people, including members of the security forces.

Damascus says the unrest has been largely incited by elements that are well-paid and armed by foreign powers. Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

The opposition and Western countries accuse Syrian security forces of being behind the killings in the country, but the government blames what it describes as outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 20, 2011, 10:07:51 AM
Assad defiant as Syrian party HQ hit by RPGs

Published: 20 November, 2011, 15:42
Edited: 20 November, 2011, 18:44
source: http://rt.com/news/assad-violence-arab-league-777/ (http://rt.com/news/assad-violence-arab-league-777/)

The headquarters of the Syrian ruling party in Damascus has been shelled with rocket propelled grenades on Sunday, with the armed branch of the opposition claiming responsibility. The violence erupted hours after the Arab League ultimatum expired.

­At least two rocket propelled grenades were fired at the Baath Party headquarters in Damascus early on Sunday. There have been no reports of deaths or injuries, however. According to local media the building was mostly empty at the time of the attack.

“The attack was just before dawn and the building was mostly empty. It seems to have been intended as a message to the regime,” confirmed a witness, as cited by Reuters.

It was the first insurgent attack reported in Damascus since the uprising against the Assad regime began in mid-March.

­Arab League ultimatum

The attack came hours after the deadline for Bashar al-Assad to put an end to the violence and accept the Arab League’s peace plan expired at 2200 GMT on Saturday.

In its ultimatum, the Arab League had requested a pullout of military force from Syrian cities and an immediate end to violence against the protesters. The league has already suspended Syria from the block and threatened more sanctions if the regime continues the bloodshed.

On Friday, Syria agreed in principle to allow Arab observers into the country to oversee a peace plan, though the agreement in writing was not concluded. Some critics accused Assad of stalling the situation after the Syrian government suggested amendments to the plan.

­However, according to the latest information, the Arab League has rejected these amendments in a letter from Secretary-General Nabil Elaraby, which was sent to Syria's foreign minister.

"The additions requested by the Syrian counterpart affect the heart of the protocol and fundamentally change the nature of the mission," the letter said, according to Reuters.

Comments from Arab League sources say that the mission's visit is now in question because a protocol with the League remains unsigned by the Syrian side.

According to the plan, some 500 observers were expected to come to Syria, including representatives of human rights organizations, journalists, doctors, lawyers and civilian experts. The Syrian government agreed to secure a free movement across the country for the observers.

­International reaction

­Russian officials are expressing their concern over the latest developments in Syria. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that if pressure is to be put on Syria, it should not only be directed to the government, but also to the opposition, which is increasingly armed at the moment.

“We suggest that in order to put the Arab initiative in place, all countries concerned with the peaceful outcome of developments should demand not only from the Syrian authorities, but also from the opposition that they stop their violence,” he said. “The ongoing attacks on government buildings in Syria look like a civil war.”

Meanwhile, the pressure on Syria is becoming increasingly organized. King Abdullah of Jordan had asked that the UK spearhead this campaign, having seen “the success of the Libyan intervention.” Reports say that a diplomat has already been appointed by Jordanian leadership to liaise directly with the Syrian opposition.

Jordan and Turkey are considering creating buffer zones within Syria for civilians and rebels who are fighting against the regime. If these plans go through, this would essentially mean operating within the borders of a sovereign nation.

Earlier, French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said in a statement that it is simply too late for any reforms to be implemented in Syria.

Therefore, the international community and members of the UN Security Council remain divided over the situation in Syria. There are members who are keen to isolate Assad, and others, like Russia and China, who are still hoping for a peaceful political solution.

With Russia and China having already vetoed the previous tough UN resolution on Syria, the UK, France and Germany may now try to pull a new one through the Human Rights Committee of the UN General Assembly, where there are no vetoes.

­Assad vows to continue 'enforcing law and order'

­Meanwhile, President Bashar al-Assad said he would continue to fight against the militants, despite the increasing international pressure on Syria.

“The conflict will continue and the pressure to subjugate Syria will continue,” he said in an interview with Sunday Times newspaper. “However, I assure you that Syria will not bow down and that it will continue to resist the pressure being imposed on it.”

Assad also commented the Arab League’s demand to pull the military out of the cities, saying that plan would not stop the violence.

“The only way is to search for the armed people, chase the armed gangs, prevent the entry of arms and weapons from neighboring countries, prevent sabotage and enforce law and order,” he said.

Assad still insists that his country is under constant attacks by groups of armed terrorists, who pretend to be peaceful protesters and infuse the violence.

The president, however, acknowledged some mistakes and the use of excessive force were taking place, but assured that those who were guilty in firing at unarmed protesters or giving orders to do so have been detained.

“We, as a state, do not have a policy to be cruel with citizens,” Assad said.

The Syrian leader also pointed out that the opposition exaggerates the number of people, who were killed since the uprising began, and said that the real figures are far from the 3,500 deaths reported by the UN.

According to the Assad, the official number of civilian deaths is 619, with most of them occurring during the crossfire between the military and armed gangs. Assad also said that the anti-regime riots across the country had taken the lives of many of his supporters among the civilians and more than 800 police officers and soldiers.

Meanwhile the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and the Local Coordination Committees claims the regime’s latest attacks on opposition groups occurred early Saturday, a day after 16 civilians, including two children, were reportedly killed by government forces.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Jan Robertson on November 21, 2011, 06:38:10 AM
There are times when a Rothschild may not like the management of a branch office...

Hence the turmoil taking place ... but I very much doubt it will end in the carnage that took place in Libya.

I believe the elite will turn their attention to Iran while we are distracted by Syria and that Syria will bow down before Barphomet.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Brezo on November 24, 2011, 12:26:48 AM
Report: US & Arab States Set To Impose No Fly Zone Over Syria
Plan to cripple Assad’s military forces within 24 hours

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wedneday, November 23, 2011

Reports out of Kuwait suggest that Arab states are set to impose a no fly zone over Syria with US logistical support, advancing the prospect of a military assault to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad under a “humanitarian” pretext.

“Senior European sources said that Arab jet fighters, and possibly Turkish warplanes, backed by American logistic support will implement a no fly zone in Syria’s skies, after the Arab League will issue a decision, under its Charter, calling for the protection of Syrian civilians,” reports Albawaba, citing Kuwait’s al Rai daily.

YNet news, the website for Israel’s most widely read newspaper, also carried the report.

As part of a plan to cripple the country’s military forces within 24 hours, the “movement of Syrian military vehicles, including tanks, personnel carriers and artillery,” would all be banned under the terms of the no fly zone.

Syrian opposition forces have repeatedly called for a no fly zone to be enforced over the country, but last month NATO all but ruled out the prospect. Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry has also called on the Obama administration to impose a no fly zone without waiting for a green light from the United Nations.

“If indeed Europe and the Western world is dead set upon an aerial campaign above Syria, then all eyes turn to the East, and specifically Russia and China, which have made it very clear they will not tolerate any intervention. And naturally the biggest unknown of all is Iran, which has said than any invasion of Syria will be dealt with swiftly and severely,” reports Zero Hedge.

Hostilities have accelerated in recent days, with Russian warships entering Syrian territorial waters on Friday in an aggressive maneuver designed to discourage any NATO-led attack.

Without Russia’s help, Syria would be largely defenseless against a NATO attack. “I don’t see any purely military problems. Syria has no defence against Western systems … [But] it would be more risky than Libya. It would be a heavy military operation,” former French air force chief Jean Rannou commented.

While NATO powers have accused the Syrian regime of carrying out atrocities against its citizens, others have framed the bloodshed in the context of a civil war. As we saw with Libya, rebel fighters who were commandeering fighter jets and firing rocket-propelled grenades were still being described as “protesters” by the establishment media days before the no fly zone was imposed and the bombing campaign began.

As we saw prior to the attack on Libya, which was also framed as a “humanitarian intervention,” NATO powers are keen to demonize Assad’s government by characterizing attacks by his forces as atrocities while largely ignoring similar attacks by opposition forces, such as a raid on a Syrian air force intelligence complex earlier this month that killed or wounded 20 security police.

http://www.infowars.com/report-us-arab-states-set-to-impose-no-fly-zone-over-syria/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/no-fly-zone-over-syria-imminent

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4151524,00.html
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Brezo on November 24, 2011, 12:36:19 AM

Rick Perry Calls for Syria No-Fly Zone

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JAMES JOYNER   ·   TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 2011

Rick Perry has apparently decided that he can’t wait for debates to say stupid things. So, he went on Fox Special Report to call for a no-fly zone in Syria.

Ben Armbruster (“Perry Calls For No-Fly Zone In Syria, Would Act Unilaterally Without U.N. Authorization“) has the transcript:

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER (jew): Would you do what we did in Libya which is institute a no-fly zone over Syria? If you were the president would you advocate that we do that in Syria?

PERRY (crypto?): Absolutely. Absolutely. …

BILL KRISTOL(jew): And you’d do that I suppose unilaterally without waiting for the U.N. to approve it?

PERRY(crypto?): I would not spend a lot of time waiting for the U.N. I will tell you that my position on the U.N. is if they continue to go around as the Palestinian state tried to do. We need to sit down as a country and have a conversation about, is the continued funding of the United Nations in the best interest of America.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/rick-perry-calls-for-syria-no-fly-zone/
Title: Specter of no-fly zone darkens Syrian skies
Post by: laconas on November 24, 2011, 08:48:49 AM

Will the Russians back down?


Specter of no-fly zone darkens Syrian skies

http://rt.com/news/syria-no-fly-zone-121/
Published: 24 November, 2011, 16:59

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An F18 Hornet of the Canadian air force. (AFP Photo / Marcello Paternostro)

TRENDS: Syria unrest

TAGS: Conflict, Military, NATO, UN, Middle East, Human rights, Opposition, War

Arab states are reportedly set to impose a no-fly zone over Syria with US logistical support. But as the drive to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on “humanitarian grounds” continues, the Libyan scenario seems to be repeating itself.

­Turkish warplanes with US logistical backing are reportedly set to implement the no-fly zone once the Arab League issues a decree calling for the protection of Syrian civilians in accordance with its charter.

Senior European sources told Kuwait's al-Rai daily that the plan is designed to cripple the country’s military forces “in less than 24 hours.”  The no-fly zone would include a ban on the movement of Syrian military vehicles including tanks, personnel carriers and artillery, Albawaba news reports. The scheme is designed to neutralize Syria’s ability to carry out air strikes on cities.

The Syrian opposition has long called for a no fly zone, though NATO has thus far ruled out any such measure.

The 22-member Arab League recently suspended Syria in response to its violent crackdown on an eight-month-old uprising gripping the country.  While the United Nations estimates that some 3,500 civilians have died in the conflict, Damascus counters that 1,100 members of the security forces have been killed by “foreign-backed terrorist groups.”

Rumors about imposing a no-fly zone over Syria come in the wake of Tuesday’s United Nations General Assembly resolution which condemned human rights abuses by the Syrian regime, including the killing, arbitrary imprisonment and torture of civilians. The non-binding resolution calls on Syria to withdraw government tanks from the streets, release political prisoners, end attacks on civilians and allow observers into the country.

Although Russia abstained from voting on the resolution, its deputy envoy to the UN, Sergey Karev, said“a human rights issue should in no circumstances be used as a pretext for interfering in a country’s internal affairs.”

And while Western powers have long accused the Syrian regime of brutally suppressing its own citizens, Damascus has countered that the country is embroiled in a civil war.

Russia has long called for both sides in the conflict to lay down their arms, stressing that the international community has an obligation to facilitate dialogue between both sides.

However, critics fear that much as in Libya, the West will use the framework of humanitarian intervention to justify a full-scale invasion of Syria.

In March, the Arab League moved to suspend Libya and called for a no-fly zone as Muammar Gaddafi moved to counter a full-scale uprising against Tripoli.Later that month, the United Nations Security Council passed UN resolution 1973, which allowed the international community to establish a no-fly zone and paved the way for the NATO bombing campaign that ultimately toppled the Gaddafi regime.

Related:
US Deploys Aircraft Carrier to Syrian Coast
No Official Explanation as Rumors of War Continue
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/11/23/us-deploys-aircraft-carrier-to-syrian-coast/
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 24, 2011, 08:58:32 AM
US deploys aircraft carrier off Syria

Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:30PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/211870.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/211870.html)

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Newest US aircraft carrier CVN 77, also known as USS George H.W. Bush (file photo)

The US has deployed its newest aircraft carrier off the Syrian coast amid mounting speculations of a Washington-led military invasion against the Arab nation.

A US naval task force, led by the USS George H.W. Bush, parked off just outside Syria's territorial waters, just after the US embassy in Damascus urged Americans to “immediately” leave the country, the Daily Caller news website reported on Wednesday.

Media reports also indicated that US ambassador to Damascus Robert Ford, recalled from Syria in October due the mounting anti-US sentiment in the country, will not return later this month as planned.

The developments come amid Western attempts, spearheaded by the United States, to pressure Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down.

The CVN 77, better known as the George H.W. Bush, is capable of carrying up to 70 aircraft, including 48 fighter jets.

Washington has not explained the purpose of the carrier's deployment to the Syrian coast.

Meanwhile, NATO-ally Turkey is seen as likely to launch a military action against Syria.

Turkish President Abdullah Gul has already suggested that Ankara might invade the country under the pretext of weeding out Kurdistan Workers' Party terrorists operating inside Syria.

Arab media have also spoken of an impending no-fly zone over Syria, similar to the one imposed over Libya before NATO launched massive missile strikes and aerial bombardments of the oil-rich country earlier in the year.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 24, 2011, 09:00:34 AM
'US, Israel funding terrorists in Syria'

Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:3PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/211887.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/211887.html)

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A file photo shows members of the militant 'Free Syria Army' at a hideout on northern Lebanon's border with Syria.

A prominent political analyst says that members of the anti-government "Free Syria Army” are not defected army personnel but militants backed, funded and armed by the United States, Israel, and Turkey.

In an article published on Global Research website on November 20, Thailand-based geopolitical expert Tony Cartalucci cited a report released by the International Institute for Strategic Studies stating that Syria's opposition is armed and prepared to drag the country into more violence.

“The report comes in sharp contrast to the propaganda fed via the corporate-media and the West's foreign ministers on a daily basis, where the violence is portrayed as one-sided, with Syria's President Bashar al-Assad 'gunning down' throngs of peaceful, placard waving protesters,” Cartalucci wrote.

He said the group calling itself a pro-democracy movement is turning out to be a militant group of extremists trained by British and US intelligence agencies, “whose leadership is harbored in London and Washington and their foot soldiers supplied a steady stream of covert military support and overt rhetorical support throughout the compromised corporate media.”

The article described the unrest in Syria, which has killed thousands of people including hundreds of security personnel, as funded by Western corporate-financier interests and part of a long-planned agenda for regime change across the Middle East region.

Cartalucci said the regime change in Syria was planned to happen as early as 1991.

He said Washington's threats against Syria, which it listed in 2002 under then President George W. Bush as an “Axis of Evil,” were later realized as secret backing for opposition groups inside Syria.

Cartalucci cited an admission made by US State Department officials in April to attempt to “build the kind of democratic institutions” in Syria, and that Damascus perceived the move “as a threat to its control over the Syrian people."

Secret government cables published by US media had earlier revealed Washington has been funding Syrian opposition groups since at least 2005 and continued until today, the article concluded.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 24, 2011, 09:16:24 AM
EU rejects French call for intervention in Syria

Published: 24 November, 2011, 17:16
source: http://rt.com/news/france-syria-aid-eu-149/ (http://rt.com/news/france-syria-aid-eu-149/)

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A child taking part in a rally in support of the Syrian regime, holds a portrait
of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. (AFP Photo / Filippo Monteforte)


The EU has stopped short of endorsing a French proposal for EU-backed humanitarian corridors that would allow aid groups and observers into Syria.

­France has called for a “secured zone to protect civilians” in Syria. It is the first time a major Western country has suggested international intervention in the country.

Speaking on French radio on Thursday, foreign minister Alain Juppé said he was speaking with partners in the United Nations, US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and the Arab League about the humanitarian corridors.

Alain Juppé says the situation in Syria is “no longer tenable” and accused the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad of “repression of a savagery we have not seen in a long time.”

On Wednesday, after a meeting with the Syrian National Council leader Burhan Ghalioun, Alain Juppé described the Council as a "legitimate interlocutor" and said France would seek formal recognition for the group from the Arab League and other allies.

"It's about the political actions that we continue to help the Syrian National Council with. It's upon request from the Syrian National Council that, with our European partners, we will examine the possibility of launching humanitarian initiatives in order to relieve the population from the considerable pain it's enduring," he said.

Ghalioun said the Syrian National Council was seeking co-operation with countries in Europe and the Arab League, "to provide serious protection for civilians and to stop the killing that has been taking place for the past eight months."

He added that he hoped to secure a UN resolution "to protect civilians and let observers enter Syria for the sake of stopping the killing."

Meanwhile, three American students arrested in Cairo have been released, Paula reports.

The Paris Institute's John Laughland suggests that despite Western powers saying they are only trying to get humanitarian aid into the country, their actions are aimed at bringing down the regime in Syria.

He called for “Russia and the world in general" to regard “this initiative with the greatest possible skepticism.”
“I would warn against any international presence,”

he told RT.
“If a humanitarian corridor is opened, it will allow, among other things, secret service agents to penetrate Syria. They will presumably be there with the goal of overthrowing the regime.”

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An uprising against the rule of President Bashar al-Assad started eight months ago. Since then, an estimated 3,500 people have died in clashes with government forces.

Meanwhile, members of the Arab League have gathered in Cairo to hold talks on the ongoing violence in Syria after President Bashar Assad failed to end his crackdown on anti-government protesters.

Earlier this month, Arab League foreign ministers suspended Syria from the group in response to its violent suppression of anti-government rallies.

LW - it seems that the PTBs are predictable, if anything. With them it's the same old playbook over and over. I suppose that's why they have to defraud and steal to acquire wealth since anything that requires originality is far beyond them.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 24, 2011, 09:53:19 AM

Quote
LW - it seems that the PTBs are predictable, if anything. With them it's the same old playbook over and over. I suppose that's why they have to defraud and steal to acquire wealth since anything that requires originality is far beyond them.

You don't suppose the the Syrians would attack a US Navy ship near Syria's waters?

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 24, 2011, 10:12:02 AM
You don't suppose the the Syrians would attack a US Navy ship near Syria's waters?

If anyone were to do so it would be Israel. Of course they would use missiles with Iranian markings.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 24, 2011, 12:26:37 PM
THE ROVING EYE ~ That rocky road to Damascus

By Pepe Escobar ~ Nov 24, 2011 ~ source (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MK24Ak01.html)

The trillion-dollar question in the "Arab Winter" is who will blink first in the West's
screenplay of slouching towards Tehran via Damascus.

As they examine the regional chessboard and the formidable array of forces aligned against them, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and the military dictatorship of the mullahtariat in Tehran must face, simultaneously, superpower Washington, bomb-happy North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) members, nuclear power Israel, all Sunni Arab absolute monarchies, and even Sunni-majority, secular Turkey.

Meanwhile, on their side, the Islamic Republic can only count on Moscow. Not as bad a hand as it may seem.

Syria is Iran's undisputed key ally in the Arab world - while Russia, alongside China, are the key geopolitical allies. China, for the moment, is making it clear that any solution for Syria must be negotiated.

Russia's one and only naval base in the Mediterranean is at the Syrian port of Tartus. Not by accident, Russia has installed its S-300 air defense system - one of the best all-altitude surface-to-air missile systems in the world, comparable to the American Patriot - in Tartus. The update to the even more sophisticated S-400 system is imminent.

From Moscow's - as well as Tehran's - perspective, regime change in Damascus is a no-no. It will mean virtual expulsion of the Russian and Iranian navies from the Mediterranean.

Yet key lateral moves by the West are already on. Diplomats in Brussels confirmed to Asia Times Online that the former Libyan "rebels" - now trying to come up with a credible government - have already given the go-ahead for NATO to build a sprawling military base in Cyrenaica.

NATO has no final say in such matters. This is decided by the boss - the Pentagon - interested in emboldening Africom in coordination with NATO. As many as 20,000 boots are expected to be deployed on the ground in Libya - at least 12,000 of them Europeans. They will be responsible for Libya's "internal security", but also be on alert for possible, further military campaigns targeted at - who else - Syria and Iran.

Bring those Shi'ites down

As much as the latest "coalition of the willing" - which by the way repeats the Libya model - is against the Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria, it also represents a Christian/Sunni war against Shi'ites, be they the Alawite minority in Syria or the Shi'ite majorities in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon.

This is part and parcel of the "strategic opportunity" identified by the powerful Israel lobby in Washington; if we strike against the Damascus-Tehran link, we deal a mortal blow to Hezbollah in Lebanon. That, ideologues believe, can now be sold to world public opinion under the cover of the former Arab Spring - now "Arab Winter" after a metamorphosis, before "Arab Summer", into the Arab counter-revolution).

As Tehran sees it, what's really going on regarding Syria is a "humanitarian" cover for a complex anti-Shi'ite and anti-Iran operation.

The road map is already clear. A fractious, unrepresentative Syrian National Council - Libya-style - is already in place. Same for a heavily armed Sunni "insurgency" crisscrossing the borders in Lebanon and Turkey. Sanctions are already essentially hurting the Syrian middle class. A relentless, international campaign of vilification of the Assad regime has been deployed. And psy ops abound, with the aim of seducing sections of the Syrian army to defect (it's not working).

A report [1] by a Qatar-based researcher for the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) even comes close to admitting that the self-described "Free Syria Army" is basically a bunch of hardcore Islamists, plus a few genuine army defectors, but mostly radicalized Muslim Brotherhood bought, paid for and weaponized by the US, Israel, the Gulf monarchies and Turkey. There's nothing "pro-democracy" about this lot - as incessantly sold by Western corporate and Saudi-owned media.

As for the National Council, based in Washington and London and sprinkled with the usual dodgy exiles, its program calls for governing Syria alongside the same military that has been - a la the Egyptian military junta - shooting civilian protesters. Makes one think that the only sensible solution would be for the people in Syria to topple the police state Assad regime, while being vehemently against the dodgy Syrian National Council.

This year's model (dictator)

Then there's the usually misguided and misinformed West, which believes that the Arab League - now no more than a puppet of US foreign policy - is siding with the democratic aspirations of the Syrian people. Angry Arab blogger As'ad Abu Khalil is correct when he says that after the fall of president Hosni Mubarak in Egypt, "the League is now an extension of the Gulf Cooperation Council [GCC]".

The GCC is in fact the Gulf Counter-revolution Club. Their favorite sport is to privilege "model" dictators - starting with themselves, but also including Ali Abdullah Saleh in Yemen and the little kings of Jordan and Morocco, who will be annexed to the GCC because they wish they were in the Persian Gulf (geography dictates they aren't). On the other hand, the GCC abhors "bad" dictators - the snuffed-out Muammar Gaddafi and Assad, who not by accident are from secular republics.

The House of Saud, Jordan and rising Qatar are more than comfortable doing the US's and Israel's bidding. The House of Saud - the GCC's top dog - invaded Bahrain with 1,500 troops to smash pro-democracy protests very much like the ones in Egypt and Syria. The House of Saud helped the ruling, Sunni al-Khalifa dynasty in 70% Shi'ite Bahrain to conduct widespread torture; Bahrainis confirm that everyone tortured was forced to confess direct links with "evil" Tehran.

In Egypt, the House of Saud supported Mubarak even after he was deposed. Now it supports - with over US$4 billion so far - a military junta that basically wants to keep power, unchecked, over a "democratic" facade.

The House of Saud couldn't possibly coexist with a successful, democratic Egypt. Anyone believing the House of Saud's claim to defend human rights and democracy in the Middle East should check into an asylum.

The Arab League - also a House of Saud extension - gave a green card to NATO to bomb a member state. It suspended Syria on November 12 - as it had done with Libya on February 22 - because, unlike in Libya, US and European designs in the United Nations Security Council were duly vetoed by Russia and China.

Welcome to a "new" Arab League where if you don't prostrate in front of the GCC altar, you're condemned to regime change.

Worshipping the GCC can't compare to worshipping the Pentagon and NATO. Jordan and Morocco are members of NATO's Mediterranean dialogue, and Qatar and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are members of NATO's Istanbul Cooperation Initiative. In addition, Jordan and the UAE are the only Arabic Troop Contributing Nations for NATO in Afghanistan.

Ivo Daalder, the Obama administration's ambassador to NATO, has already ordered Libya to enter the Mediterranean Dialogue, alongside Morocco, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania and Israel. And early this month he told the Atlantic Council what's needed for an attack on Syria; an "urgent necessity" (such as giving the impression Assad is going to raze Homs to the ground); "regional support" (that will come in a flash from the GCC/Arab League); and a UN mandate (it won't happen, as Russia and China had made it clear).

So one may expect exactly that from the "coalition of the willing"; some black ops blamed on the Assad regime; immediate support from GCC/Arab League; and probably unilateral action, because via the UN is a no-no.

The Greater Middle East dream

No wonder some sound minds in Damascus, watching the tea leaves, decided to take some action. Damascus did send secret couriers to sound out Washington's mood. The price to be left alone; to cut all ties with Tehran, for good. The Assad regime was left wondering what would they get in return.

The Alawites, roughly 12% of the population and members of the ruling elite, won't desert the Assad regime. Christians and Druze expect only the worst from a possible, hardcore, Muslim Brotherhood-dominated new order. Same for a crucial neighbor, the Nuri al-Maliki government in Baghdad.

Russia knows that if the current Libyan model is reproduced in Syria - and with Lebanon already under a de facto NATO blockade - the Mediterranean will indeed become that dream, a NATO lake, which is code for total US control.

Moscow also sees that in the US-conceived Greater Middle East - and talk about "great", spanning from Mauritania to Kazakhstan - the only countries that are not linked with NATO through myriad "partnerships" are, apart from Syria:
Lebanon, Eritrea, Sudan and Iran.

As for the Pentagon, the name of the game is "repositioning". As in if you leave Iraq you go somewhere else in the "arc of instability", preferably the Gulf. There are 40,000 US troops already in the Gulf - 23,000 of them in Kuwait. A secret army for the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency is being trained by former Blackwater, "repositioned" as Xe, in the UAE. A NATO of the Gulf is being born. NATOGCC, anyone?

When the US neo-conservatives ruled the universe - that was only a few years ago - the motto was "Real men go to Tehran". An update is in order. Call it "Real men go to Tehran via Damascus only if they have the balls to stare down Moscow".

Note

1. See Revolutionary road: Among the Syrian opposition. (http://www.iiss.org/whats-new/iiss-voices/?blogpost=313)

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007) and Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge. His new book, just out, is Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009).
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 24, 2011, 01:10:10 PM
Lavrov: West is Encouraging Syria's Armed Opposition 

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November, 2011 ~ source (http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/)

Syria, the cradle of Arab nationalism, has become a victim of typical Arab treachery and stupidity. Arabs remain amongst the world's most easily manipulated and sacrificed sheeples. There should be no suspicions anymore regarding who Sunni Arab states throughout the Arabian peninsula and North Africa serve. The Western alliance has turned the stomping grounds of Mohammad into a stinking brothel and it has done so with the willing participation of brain-dead Sunni Arabs. Iran and the Hezbollah of Lebanon may be the only remaining light in the war-torn region. Many are looking at Russia, Iran and to a lesser extent China to come to Syria's aid. But if NATO or the United States is cleverly opting out of militarily attacking Syria, there is only so much Moscow or Tehran can do to help Syria. If a nation's self-destructive peasantry is determined to self-destruct, there is not much any outside power can do to stop them. Moreover, if the Western alliance and friends are determined to topple the Syrian regime, as they clearly seem to be, there is only so much nations like Russia can do; short of going to war against the West for Syria, which I don't see Moscow doing. In other words, if Syrians want to engage in self-mutilation, as Libyans happily did, I don't think there is much Russia, Iran or China can do about it.

Similar to what they have done with many popular fads coming out of the western world, Facebook has also become weaponized by Western intelligence agencies in recent years.

Therefore, it should come as no surprise that Facebook has been one of the main battlefields in Syria. Western intelligence operatives and an army of Arab mercenaries have been saturating electronic media with their presence. Their intent is to spread anti-Syrian propaganda in the western world and to organize and/or inspire the armed insurgency in the embattled country. The same is being done against Iran. Similar operations are being carried out against Russia. Similar operations are being carried out against Armenia. As usual, it's always those "humanitarians", "rights activists", "political experts", "historians" or "independent journalists" that do Washington's bidding via the internet, print, radio or television. We Armenians unfortunately have quite a few of these types of mercenaries throughout Armenian society as well. An interesting article about Facebook's subversive actions in Syria appears at the bottom of this page. I have also posted two recent articles that discusses the spying activities of Washington's cyber army. They are now more-or-less spying on anything and everything under the cover of the now standard guise of "fighting terrorism". For additional information concerning Washington's Cyber warfare, I ask you to read the following blog entry -

    US Launches Cyber Spy Operation Against The World - April, 2011:
    http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2011/04/us-launches-cyber-spy-operation-april.html

It is well known that Syria has a close strategic alliance with Iran and that it helps arm Lebanon's Hezbollah. Not very well known is that Russia's military presence in Syria did not end after the fall of the Soviet Union. For the past several years Moscow had been steadily growing its military presence in the Syrian port city of Tartus. Several years ago Damascus had even announced that it would be willing to host Russian ballistic missiles on its soil. Damascus was obviously hoping that the increased Russian military presence in Syria would protect it from foreign aggression. Although Moscow continued to slowly increase it military activities in Syria, setting up missile sites in the country was probably looked upon as a bit too risky. I have no doubt that Damascus' desire to host a strong Russian presence in Syria as well as its strategic alliance with Iran and the Hezbollah sealed its fate in the eyes of senior policymakers in the West. Please see the following blog entry for additional information -

    Moscow Set to Resume its Influence With Damascus -
    July, 2010: http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2010/11/to-dismay-of-tel-aviv-and-washington.html

After the fall of Iraq and Libya, Syria remains the only Arab nation not under Anglo-American-Zionist control. As a result, the aforementioned global empire has had serious plans for Damascus. In light of recent geopolitical shifts, however, these plans seem to have taken on an air of urgency for them. Again, it's essentially a race against time. The Western alliance has to fix the loose-ends in the region before they approach their big prize in Iran; and Syria and the Hezbollah are the only remaining loose-ends in the region today.

The current players against Syria are the Western alliance, various Persian Gulf Sunni Arab states, Jordan, Turkey, certain segments within Lebanon and various Kurdish factions. Similar to what happened in Libya in recent months, Sunni Arab states in the region have been instrumental in disseminating anti-Syrian propaganda throughout the world. Therefore, keep this in mind next time you listen to a scion of the British monarchy in Jordan next time he holds a press conference; keep this in mind next time you watch the pseudo-news agency known as Al-Jazeera.

The present "king" of Jordan is half British, he was educated in Britain, his close associates are Anglo-Saxons and his father was widely known to be a CIA asset. Thus, it shouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to claim that "King Abdullah II" of Jordan is a Western asset as well. Don't take my word for it, his actions and statements speak for themselves. Al-Jazeera is state run propaganda agency based in Qatar. The government of Qatar, the entity that funds Al-Jazeera, is a very reliable conduit of Western interests in the region. Qatar also played a fundamental role in supporting the Western aggression against Libya (see related article posted towards the bottom of this page). Thus, when Washington complains about Al-Jazeera's "unfair" coverage of American actions in the region, it is in fact trying to give the news agency an air of legitimacy. This is yet another form of psychological warfare operations being carried out on the unsuspecting sheeples of the world. Al-Jazeera is in fact Washington's local tool for managing/controlling/conditioning the hearts and minds of the Arab sheeple.

[In my humble opinion, the only reliable and respectable English language news agency left in the world today is Margarita Simonyan's Russia Today. Therefore, please put aside your Cold War derived biases and phobias and begin monitoring RT for global news developments that is free of the Anglo-American-Zionist spin]

While it is premature to make a definitive statement about Israel as of yet, Tel Aviv ironically may be the only regional entity most concerned about a drastic political change in Syria. Nevertheless, the geostrategic intent of the Western alliance and friends (including Israel) are quite clear: they are systematically preparing their field of play prior to their attack on Iran. If Syria falls, Israel will most probably create a pretext to invade southern Lebanon to finally crush the Hezbollah. If the Hezbollah is disarmed, the path to Iran will then be totally cleared. With Assad and the Hezbollah out of the way, they won't have any worries about Tehran using Syria and the Hezbollah to engage in diversionary attacks or to open new fronts against it. If Syria and the Hezbollah fall, the entire Middle East and north Africa will effectively be under Washington's control for the first time in history. The following link is to an earlier blog entry that discusses this matter at length.

     NATO plans campaigns in Libya and Syria to tighten noose around Iran - September, 2011:
     http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2011/09/nato-plans-campaigns-in-middle-east-to_03.html

This is in essence a high stakes game of geopolitics; a dangerous game of chess where the pieces are actual political entities and the pawns, as usual, are the region's hapless population. With peak oil, economic troubles, over population and emerging powers shaping the course of the world in recent years, this is in essence the Western alliance's attempt at securing its existence in the twenty first century by creating global hegemony at a very crucial time in human history.

The West certainly has many levers with which to destroy any Arab state it chooses to. Moreover, starting a revolution or a major war is rather easy. But revolutions have a tendency to get out of hand and wars, once started, often end up taking a life of their own. Such projects are politically very risky and they are dangerously unpredictable. One wrong move, one mistake, one accident and we can have a world war on our hands. And therein lies the danger that the Western alliance is disregarding due to its blind pursuit for global domination.

Western actions have brought the world to the brink of a third world war. High level officials in the Kremlin realize that the long-term intentions of the Western alliance is to establish a foothold in the Eurasian heartland as a geostrategic measure to ensure that no regional power rises to compete with its global hegemony. Thus, their primary long-term targets are Russia and China. Consequently, there will come a time when Moscow will say enough-is-enough. As NATO, Washington's "missile defense" and Western-led conflicts get closer to Russian borders, the threat of a nuclear catastrophe will rise. Although resurgent, Russia's military today is a mere shadow of what it used to be during the Soviet period. Militarily, Russia remains vulnerable. As a result, Moscow is placing emphasis on its nuclear deterrence; as NATO did during the height of Soviet power. Moreover, seeing Washington's aggressions against nonaligned, resource-rich and vulnerable nations around the world, various governments have begun developing nuclear programs of their own.

Back in 2002, cowboys in Washington announced that Iran, Iraq and North Korea formed some dreaded "Axis of Evil". Coming soon after the events of September 11, 2001, president Bush's infamous speech reverberated throughout much of the world. The Arab/Muslim world in particular shivered in fear as the United States readied itself to pounce on the strategic region after one of its black operations had given it the carte blanche to do so with impunity. Thus, those on Washington's black/hit list took Bush's warning very seriously.

Well, let's see what happened to two of the three members of the so-called Axis of Evil. A besieged Iraq that had long dropped its nuclear ambitions was desperately signaling that it was ready to cooperate with the West, while North Korea was stubbornly pressing ahead with building an atomic bomb; which it finally did around the year 2005. While Iraq got invaded and shattered into pieces, a nuclear North Korea is allowed to sink South Korean warships and bombard South Korean islands from time-to-time without anybody even raising an eyebrow. Was there is lesson to be learned here? Yes, indeed!

Iraq got invaded simply because it did not posses potent weapons with which it could defend itself and an aggressive North Korea can continue acting tough simply because it has the "bomb". The same can be said about Pakistan. The same can be said about Israel, a nation that posses upwards of several hundred nuclear warheads.

Well, looking at all this, and realizing that it has been high on Washington's hit list for a long time, how should we have expected Iranian officials to react? By rolling over and playing dead? Iranians are not Arabs. Simply put, Iran today is courageously pursuing nuclear deterrence. I think it would have been better for us all if it did not, but I firmly believe Western actions have given Iran no choice but to resort to drastic measures. Again, Tehran feels that only with nuclear capability will it be able to thwart an attack by Western forces. Therefore, what we essentially have today is a new global nuclear arms race; and one that is in certain ways more perilous than the one that existed during the Cold War; and we can all thank the Anglo-American-Zionist global order and friends for bringing us to this dangerous point.

Key in all this is what will Moscow's reaction be. Moscow more-or-less sacrificed Libya for cold geopolitical calculations. Libya was simply too far way. Libya was not in an alliance with Moscow. Libya's many enemies were determined to destroy it. By not becoming an obstacle to NATO, Moscow may have thought it could draw Western forces into yet another protracted war. Moscow also felt that it could use the West's aggression against Libya as a legitimate excuse to hinder a similar aggression against Syria or Iran; nations that are much closer to it geographically, economically and politically. The closer these Western-led unrests get to Russian borders, the more proactive will Moscow become as a political force in the region.

Moscow just recently communicated a stern warning to the Western alliance. In a recent press conference in Moscow, General Nikolai Makarov, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian armed forces, essentially stated that as NATO and armed conflicts get closer to Russia's borders, the likelihood of a nuclear war will increase. Moscow realizes that after Syria it will be Iran, and after Iran it may very well be Russia. Washington's missile defense project in Europe is fundamentally tied to this grand plan. After all, the primary geostrategic intent of the great game has been to control the Eurasian heartland, and the very heart of the Eurasian heartland is Russia. Moreover, there have been unconfirmed reports from Damascus that Russian warships may be sailing into Syrian waters to stop a military intervention by the West. Although this report has yet to be conformed by Moscow, what's clear is that Moscow is taking the situation in Syria very seriously. For the fist time since the summer of 2008, Moscow and Washington seem to be facing off in yet another high stakes game of chess.

Just how far Moscow is willing to go in protecting the Syrian regime from external threats is anyone's guess at this point. What the global community has is a very complicated and dangerous situation on its hands. I am sure Kremlin officials are very perplexed as to what their course of action should be as the world inches closer-and-closer to a major international conflict.

Arevordi
November, 2011
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 24, 2011, 01:44:07 PM
Quote
THE ROVING EYE ~ That rocky road to Damascus

By Pepe Escobar ~ Nov 24, 2011 ~ source

The trillion-dollar question in the "Arab Winter" is who will blink first in the West's
screenplay of slouching towards Tehran via Damascus.


Russia will more than likely blink and allow the Jews to take Syria.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on November 24, 2011, 04:34:52 PM

Russia will more than likely blink and allow the Jews to take Syria.

I'm not even sure Russia will do anything if Israel etc attack Iran.  Russia has the Stans & Georgia as buffers, they can probably evacuate their scientists before they get bombed.  They know the London-joo-bankster empire is on it's last legs anyway so they let West have it's Pyrrhic victory.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 24, 2011, 06:06:15 PM
I'm not even sure Russia will do anything if Israel etc attack Iran.  Russia has the Stans & Georgia as buffers, they can probably evacuate their scientists before they get bombed.  They know the London-joo-bankster empire is on it's last legs anyway so they let West have it's Pyrrhic victory.

We really don't know what treaties they have with Syria and Iran, but since the Jews are talking loudly it's probably safe to assume they don't have any formal mutual defense treaties with these two countries. It's also safe to assume that since the Jews haven't bombed Syria and Iran that Russia has supplied them with pretty good air defenses.

Yes, Georgia. That was one of the first tests in our era to see how Russia would react if their security forces were attacked on their borders. The Russians didn't blink, but they also didn't fall into the trap of occupying Georgia.

Occupation seems to be a trap the SU fell into and it seems the current Russian leadership doesn't want to fall into another trap again. Afghanistan was the last trap they fell into. At the same time they see that allowing the Jews to fall into these type of traps is a powerful diplomatic instrument.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 24, 2011, 06:29:14 PM
Occupation seems to be a trap the SU fell into and it seems the current Russian leadership doesn't want to fall into another trap again. Afghanistan was the last trap they fell into. At the same time they see that allowing the Jews to fall into these type of traps is a powerful diplomatic instrument.

Russian and China are playing their cards close to the chest. The defining moment will come after the first bomb hits Iran. Until then, it will remain a guessing game.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 24, 2011, 06:45:51 PM
Russian and China are playing their cards close to the chest. The defining moment will come after the first bomb hits Iran. Until then, it will remain a guessing game.

I think the analysis you posted earlier about Israel wanting to neutralize Syria and in doing that gut Hezbollah is accurate. Iran follows. Russia knows this and considering they would be out of the game PDQ if they lose their base in Tarsus, the line is much closer to Syria than Iran.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 24, 2011, 07:11:14 PM
Russian and China are playing their cards close to the chest. The defining moment will come after the first bomb hits Iran. Until then, it will remain a guessing game.

I agree. Even if Russia was to use vast resources to keep Syria, it would still be surrounded by Jews and Jewish puppets making it impossible to keep. The best Russia can do is to allow Syria to fall, while protesting, and use the barbarity of the the Jews as a propaganda instrument to rally the Arab world against the Jewish occupiers.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on November 24, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
We really don't know what treaties they have with Syria and Iran, but since the Jews are talking loudly it's probably safe to assume they don't have any formal mutual defense treaties with these two countries. It's also safe to assume that since the Jews haven't bombed Syria and Iran that Russia has supplied them with pretty good air defenses.

Yes, Georgia. That was one of the first tests in our era to see how Russia would react if their security forces were attacked on their borders. The Russians didn't blink, but they also didn't fall into the trap of occupying Georgia.

Izzies did "Operation Orchard" bombing of purported Syrian nuke site with no response from Russia AFAIK.  Izzies, militarily speaking, have been pretty quiet for years.  The leaders deliberately "lost" vs Leb Hez despite reality of Israel bombing huge areas & killing mass # of civilians.  Israel needs a big fight to galvanize a demoralized population.  They might well drop a handful of bunker-buster bombs on Iran even if Uncle Samuel doesn't go along.  Russia is probably not crazy at the idea of Iranians having the Bomb anyway since the Zios could use that as real or false-flag terrorism.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on November 24, 2011, 08:10:04 PM
Izzies did "Operation Orchard" bombing of purported Syrian nuke site with no response from Russia AFAIK. Izzies, militarily speaking, have been pretty quiet for years. The leaders deliberately "lost" vs Leb Hez despite reality of Israel bombing huge areas & killing mass # of civilians.  Israel needs a big fight to galvanize a demoralized population.  They might well drop a handful of bunker-buster bombs on Iran even if Uncle Samuel doesn't go along.  Russia is probably not crazy at the idea of Iranians having the Bomb anyway since the Zios could use that as real or false-flag terrorism.

You forgot operation 'Cast Lead'.

Israelis were beaten on the ground against Hizbollah, they didn't deliberately lose.

The majority of Israeli Jews are scared $h^tless of any new war...They understand what possible consequences may entail...There 'leaders' are a different story, as Jewish leaders or rabbis have a history of bringing wrath and hatred down on their peeps...The big fight you refer to may mean death for many Jews, and some big bombs falling on their cities.

Rather, and you will understand this, City of London and Washington/PNAC boys are the real culprits here, as they are making a big push to steal everything in sight over there.

I agree that Russia probably isn't thrilled at Iran having a bomb, but if Russia continues to cave in to West/Zion everywhere there, it is quite risky for them, both in terms of having any diplomatic credibility, and allowing themselves to be encircled.

If Russia cave on Syria, it will have far reaching negative repercussions for them.

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 24, 2011, 08:51:43 PM
I agree. Even if Russia was to use vast resources to keep Syria, it would still be surrounded by Jews and Jewish puppets making it impossible to keep. The best Russia can do is to allow Syria to fall, while protesting, and use the barbarity of the the Jews as a propaganda instrument to rally the Arab world against the Jewish occupiers.

I dunno... I think that if Russia shows strength in it's alliance with Syria Turkey would quickly go neutral or it's people there will go against the government and that would result in much the same.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on November 24, 2011, 09:31:45 PM

Russia will more than likely blink and allow the Jews to take Syria.

They do have a base there though, that changes things a little. I don't expect them to help Iran at all.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 24, 2011, 10:06:05 PM
I dunno... I think that if Russia shows strength in it's alliance with Syria Turkey would quickly go neutral or it's people there will go against the government and that would result in much the same.

Turkey is going to do as their told, they have mutual defense treaties with NATO not Russia(note the set-up with Libya where they used the so called NATO alliance). Turkey making a move to go with Syria and Russia means they would break NATO treaties, face the wrath of jew sponsored Kurd attacks, and pretty much sever their ties with the Arab League that backs removing Assad.

I agree the people in Turkey will be against it and just see their govt. as a puppet, but what can they do? When NATO started bombing Serbia 99% of the Greek people were against it and there were many protests in the streets. The Greek PM at the time and said we have to do what's best for Greece. Greece was a NATO member and had to do as they were told.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on November 24, 2011, 10:08:46 PM

Russia will more than likely blink and allow the Jews to take Syria.

But they blinking so much, they need eye drops.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 24, 2011, 10:20:10 PM


If Russia cave on Syria, it will have far reaching negative repercussions for them.

If Russia doesn't cave in, it will have far reaching negative repercussions for them. Pressure is already being applied in the form of nukes in Poland being aimed them.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 24, 2011, 10:25:06 PM
Turkey is going to do as their told, they have mutual defense treaties with NATO not Russia(note the set-up with Libya where they used the so called NATO alliance). Turkey making a move to go with Syria and Russia means they would break NATO treaties, face the wrath of jew sponsored Kurd attacks, and pretty much sever their ties with the Arab League that backs removing Assad.

I agree the people in Turkey will be against it and just see their govt. as a puppet, but what can they do? When NATO started bombing Serbia 99% of the Greek people were against it and there were many protests in the streets. The Greek PM at the time and said we have to do what's best for Greece. Greece was a NATO member and had to do as they were told.

As it stands I cannot argue with your observations. They are accurate. However I do not see Turkey as a 'true' member of NATO... they are in there because Turkey saw some advantage to a western alliance and NATO was only too happy to weaken Turkey's eastern alliances and have an additional base of operations to further encircle Russia. Russia had just fallen apart around the time NATO brought Turkey into their club. That has changed somewhat. I think that if things continue to heat up and Russia takes a more active role (esp. as it pertains to Syria) that Turkey will find itself caught right in the middle and will opt out of NATO knowing full well that NATO isn't a reliable 'ally' when push comes to shove. If they continue to do NATOs bidding it will create a very uncomfortable situation for the government vis-a-vis the people. Of course if Turkey falls apart that just adds to the chaos, which is essentially what the Jews are banking on. Order out of chaos after all.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on November 25, 2011, 12:36:16 AM
If Russia doesn't cave in, it will have far reaching negative repercussions for them. Pressure is already being applied in the form of nukes in Poland being aimed them.

There are no nukes in Poland, and a deployment of US nukes there might provoke something akin to the Cuban Missile Crisis...Poland isn't looking for anything like this; in fact there has been strong opposition to the proposed building of the so-called 'defensive missile shield' there.

Poland also still collects fees for the movement of Russian oil through the Druzhba pipeline.

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 25, 2011, 09:09:57 AM
Nuke carrier leads US strike force into Syrian waters

Published: 25 November, 2011, 18:34
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-intervention-us-warship-229/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-intervention-us-warship-229/)


USS George H.W. Bush. (AFP Photo/US Navy)


Nuclear aircraft carrier USS George HW Bush has reportedly anchored off Syria. As an Arab League deadline to allow observers into the country passes with no response from Damascus, the possibility of intervention in Syria seems to be growing.

The George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group along with additional naval vessels are to remain in the Mediterranean to conducting maritime security operations and support missions as part of Operations Enduring Freedom and New Dawn.The US 6th Fleet is also patrolling the area, Interfax news agency reports.

Meanwhile, America and Turkey are urging their citizens to leave Syria. The US released a statement on Wednesday urging American citizens to “depart immediately while commercial transportation is available.”

Against this backdrop, the prospect of humanitarian intervention in Syria no longer looks like such an impossible scenario. And pressure is growing on the issue.

Paris is urging the creation of a secure zone to protect civilians “that would allow aid groups and observers into Syria” and is seeking support from the US, UN and the Arab League. French foreign minister Alain Juppé said he was speaking with partners in the United Nations, US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and the Arab League on the issue. However the EU stopped short of endorsing a French proposal for EU-backed humanitarian corridors on Thursday, acknowledging, however, that protection of civilians in Syria remains a top priority.

The imposition of a no-fly zone over Syria by the Arab League with US logistical support, is also being discussed, according to the Jordan-based Al Bawaba news website. A strong sense of déjà vu prevails, with the specter of a Libyan scenario repeating itself.

Rumors about the no-fly zone over Syria came in the wake of Tuesday’s United Nations General Assembly resolution which condemned human rights abuses by the Syrian regime, including the killing, arbitrary imprisonment and torture of civilians.

Meanwhile, an Arab League deadline for Syria to allow an observer mission into the country or suffer crippling sanctions passed on Friday without a response from Damascus, a League source told AFP.

"Until now, there has been no response from the Syrian government," the source said after the 1 pm (1100 GMT) deadline. Damascus has been given until the end of the day to respond, if it is to avoid sanctions.

Earlier this month Russia, the most powerful opponent of the West's push for “international intervention,” also anchored its warships in the Syrian port of Tartus. According to unconfirmed reports, the warships were carrying technical advisors who will help Syria set up and run advanced S-300 missiles supplied by Russia. However, there is no official confirmation that the S-300 missiles have actually been delivered to Syria by any side.

Meanwhile, Moscow has announced it opposes a military scenario for resolving the Syrian problem and the use of a human rights argument as an excuse for foreign intervention in the affairs of a sovereign state. Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich said that “under no circumstances must human rights issues be used as a pretext for interfering in the internal affairs of a state."

Moscow has also abstained from voting on the resolution by the UN General Assembly Human Rights Committee thanks to "the humanitarian focus of the draft's text," said Lukashevich.

Experts say that even the armed opponents of Bashar al-Assad’s regime would strongly oppose any interference from outside.

“Even among the opponents of the ugly Assad regime, many in Syria will actually not welcome an intervention by Western forces,” even if it comes in the shape of fellow-Muslims in the Turkish army, predicts Dr. Pierre Guerlain, a professor of political science at Paris West University.

And Dr Marcus Papadopoulos, an analyst from Britain's 'Politics First' online magazine, told RT that any hopes of bringing peace to the region by toppling the current Syrian government are delusional.

"I can't see how they can possibly believe that peace will come to the Middle East with president Assad falling, I mean if we have a look at some of the people that the Syrian government is fighting against at the moment, they're actually armed militants, they're criminal gangs, and many of these armed militants have links to religious extremism, so once again, I think it's a reckless, negligence, short-sighted approach that the West is taking."

Earlier this month, Arab League foreign ministers suspended Syria in response to its violent suppression of anti-government rallies.

An uprising against the rule of President Bashar al-Assad started eight months ago. Since then, an estimated 3,500 people have died in clashes with government forces.

LW - Gotta love the 'experts'... as if peace or humanitarian intervention is the goal, or ever was. From where I sit the 'experts' should recuse themselves from ever commenting ever again on grounds of stupidity, if not downright deceit and dissembling reality.
Title: Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: laconas on November 25, 2011, 06:14:21 PM

Prtetty good take on what's going on in Syria by the Syrian News Agency.


Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat

(DP-News - agencies)

DAMASCUS- Syrian has slammed the Arab League's ultimatum to agree by Friday to allow an observer mission into the country or face sanctions.

The AL Council on the Ministerial Level called Thursday on Syria to sign the protocol on monitors, Syria official news agency SANA reported in brief late on Thursday.

No official comment has been stated yet by any Syrian official or body regarding Arab League (AL) statement

Syria's state-run SANA news agency said Friday that the Arab League "has become a tool for foreign interference." It also said the 22-nation group is serving a Western agenda to stir up trouble in the region.
Syrian Army official statement on Friday
Arab League warns Syria: Let Observers in or Face Sanctions!!
France calls for 'Humanitarian Corridors' in Syria
Cuba opposes UN Syria condemnation


SANA also said “In an Unprecedented Move…Arab League to Discuss Sanctions on Syria; Unless it Signs Legal Protocol.”

“The AL Council on the Foreign Ministers' Level in Cairo called on the Syrian government on Thursday to sign on Friday the protocol on the legal status and the AL monitors' mission adopted by the Council in its extraordinary session on November 16th.

In an unprecedented procedure, the Council decided to call on the AL Economic and Social Council to convene on Saturday to consider imposing economic sanctions on Syria in case the Syrian government doesn't sign the protocol. The sanctions include stopping air flights, trade exchanges and monetary dealings with the Syrian government and freezing its assets, which harms the interests of the Syrian people.” SANA explained.

SANA added “The Council called on the Syrian government and the Syrian opposition to hold a dialogue conference as stipulated by the Arab plan to move to a national unity government in order to run the transitional stage, which the Syrian people considered a flagrant interference in their internal affairs. The Council also decided to inform the UN Secretary General to take the necessary measures to support the Arab League efforts in case Syria doesn't sign the protocol, which is a call for foreign interference in the Syrian internal affairs.”

According to state-run media; Syrian people express in daily rallies rejection of the AL decisions and harming national sovereignty, considering that the role of the Arab League has become a tool for foreign interference which serves the Western-Us agenda to fragmentize the region.

SANA also quoted the Secretary General of the Council of Arab Economic Unity (CAEU), Ambassador Mohammad al-Rabei as telling Asharq al-Awsat Newspaper on Thursday that he refuted what was published in about preparing sanction memorandum on Syria to be handed to the Arab League (AL) Secretary General.

Rabei told SANA that such memorandums is not part of the CAEU Arab Economic Unit's tasks and Arab League Secretariat did not ask the Council to set such a memorandum, sheet or proposal on Syria.

According to SANA report, Rabei pointed out that Syria is an AL founding state and an active member in the CAEU, as it is one of the keenest Arab countries on the joint Arab action, underlining that dialogue is the only solution to overcome the current crisis in Syria. He added that he does not prefer applying economic sanctions against Syria, particularly that they will be negatively reflected on the Syrian people.

Rabei also warned that targeting the economic sector (whether the agricultural or industrial sides) will lead to stopping the exports and freezing the inter-trade, and thus that will leave negative impacts on the Syrian people in general, according to SANA.

SANA accused the newspaper report and said “As part of its provocative campaign, Asharq al-Awsat Newspaper on Thursday published an article on which it claimed that it inspected a memorandum of sanctions against Syria set by the Arab Economic Unit's Council and handed to the AL Secretariat.”

Earlier this month, the league voted to suspend Syria and warned of unspecified sanctions for not implementing the peace plan.

Syria is now facing an Arab League deadline to allow an observer mission into the country or be subjected to economic sanctions. If Syria fails to sign a deal by 11:00 GMT, the league says it will meet on Saturday to discuss the sanctions.

The league wants 500 observers to enter Syria to monitor the situation amid continuing protests, but Damascus has reportedly agreed to let in only 40.

Media reports accused Thursday's threat to Syria and considered it a humiliating blow to Damascus, a founding member of the Arab League. It also indicated that it comes as international pressure mounts on President Bashar al-Assad to stop the brutal crackdown on an uprising against his regime.

Syrian authorities blame the violence on foreign-backed armed groups which they say have killed some 1,100 troops and police. By a United Nations account, more than 3,500 people, mostly civilians, have been killed in the unrest.

Meanwhile, more protests were planned Friday. Media reports said that Syrian Activists urged protesters to flood the streets to support army defectors who have sided with the opposition.

Media reports abroad confirmed that protests in Syria are becoming an armed insurgency.

BBC's correspondent Paul Wood and cameraman Fred Scott have obtained first-hand evidence that the struggle for democracy in Syria is becoming an armed insurgency, according to BBC report published Friday.

The BBC crew joined supporters of the opposition Free Syria Army group bringing in guns from Lebanon on old smuggling routes.

BBC's correspondent says he saw casualties coming out the same way in the area which is mined and full of Syrian patrols but not completely sealed.

Earlier this week, President Bashar al-Assad signaled no retreat from his iron-fist policy "The only way is to search for the armed people, chase the armed gangs, prevent the entry of arms and weapons from neighboring countries, prevent sabotage and enforce law and order," he said in footage published on the Sunday Times website.
Confronted since March by street demonstrations against 41 years of rule by his party, Assad said he had no choice but to pursue his crackdown on unrest because his foes were armed.
"The conflict will continue and the pressure to subjugate Syria will continue. Syria will not bow down," he told Britain's Sunday Times newspaper.
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had also accused AL of trying to internationalize the crisis in his country to find a cover for a foreign military intervention in Syria.

Friday has become the main day for protests in Syria as thousands of people stream out of mosques following afternoon prayers.
Syrian government has largely sealed off the country from foreign journalists and prevented independent reporting, making it difficult to confirm events on the ground.
Thus; the casualty figures could not be independently verified as Syria bars most foreign journalists from operating in the country. Part of the Arab League plan, accepted by Syria, was to allow reporters and observers into the country.
Media reports stated that in the absence of firsthand reporting, key sources of information are amateur videos posted online and details gathered by witnesses and activist groups.
For its part, Syria state & official media denied all such “biased & baseless reports” and claimed “no demonstrations or casualties took place in Syria on Friday.” except for what was officially announced by SANA.

http://www.dp-news.com/en/detail.aspx?articleid=104230
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: Spahi on November 25, 2011, 09:03:50 PM
Prtetty good take on what's going on in Syria by the Syrian News Agency.

It's pretty sad to see Syrians here siding with the 'opposition'.
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: laconas on November 25, 2011, 09:10:24 PM
It's pretty sad to see Syrians here siding with the 'opposition'.

Not here, but who knows what they say in other writings.
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: Spahi on November 25, 2011, 09:12:10 PM
Not here, but who knows what they say in other writings.

I meant locally.
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: laconas on November 25, 2011, 09:32:31 PM
I meant locally.

The Syria takeover is gonna bloody, but the Jews have nothing to worry about since they got stupid Arabs doing the fighting paid for by stupid Americans.
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: clefty on November 26, 2011, 05:05:08 AM
It also said the 22-nation group is serving a Western agenda to stir up trouble in the region.

western agenda? hmmm....


The Syrian popes were: Evaristus (107), Anicetus (168), John V (687), Serguis I (701), Sisinnius (708), Constantine I (715), and Gregory III (732). I shall give brief biographical sketches of the Eastern popes among these who distinguished themselves in the government of the universal Church
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=2741

SYRIAN EMPERORS OF ROME

Two Syrian born Emperors emerged from the chaos of the 3rd century, a time of tumult in the Roman world.
http://syria.vsdi.net/04.htm

its time for syria to "come home"

but its da jooooo

"since Lucullus’ and Pompey’s presence in the Near East stemmed primarily from the war against Mithridates, the political stance taken with regard to Syria also stemmed from that conflict. The slogan that Rome had used before and was using still to justify the wars fought on Greek soil was the defense of Greek freedom. However, what the Romans meant by libertas was slightly different from what the Greeks meant by the Greek word eleutheria. For many Greek cities in the first century, eleutheria in the original sense of independence and of not being subject to another city or people, belonged to the past. In the new world order, the question was not whether a city-state would regain independence but whether it could be free to govern itself by its own laws while at the same time acknowledging the hegemonía of another city-state, in this instance Rome

http://www.ancientsites.com/aw/Article/1049874

so rome fights for "our freedoms"...isnt that what american foreign policy is?


but around here...its da joooo....
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 26, 2011, 10:17:12 AM
France training rebels to fight Syria

Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:42PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/212224.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/212224.html)

A Turkish newspaper has unveiled that French military forces are training armed Syrian rebels to fight the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

According to Milliyet, as cited by IRNA, France has sent its military training forces to Turkey and Lebanon to coach the so-called Free Syrian Army -- a group of defectors operating out of Turkey and Lebanon -- in an effort to wage war against Syria's military.

The report added that the French, British, and Turkish authorities “have reached an agreement to send arms into Syria.”

The Turkish daily said that the three have informed the US about training and arming the Syrian opposition.

According to Milliyet, a group of armed rebels are currently stationed in Turkey's Hatay Province near the border with Syria.

The report comes as an earlier report had revealed that the British and French intelligence agencies have reportedly tasked their agents with contacting Syrian dissidents based in the northern Lebanese town of Tripoli in order to help fuel unrest in Syria.

Reports also said that French intelligence agents have been sent to northern Lebanon and Turkey to build the first contingents of the Free Syrian Army out of the deserters who have fled Syria.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Assad.

Damascus says the unrest has been largely incited by elements that are well-paid and armed by foreign powers. Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

The opposition and Western countries accuse Syrian security forces of being behind the killings in the country, but the government blames what it describes as outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: Spahi on November 26, 2011, 02:10:06 PM
but around here...its da joooo....

Okay, so Rome's involvement in Kosovo was less obvious than joint Israeli-Albanian mafias (which do exist). Doesn't mean we don't remember the Crusader kingdoms.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Near_East_1135.svg/435px-Near_East_1135.svg.png)

But don't deny the Joos have interests in the area either.

(http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/greater_israel_files/planned.gif)

In the end, Rome, Joos, Freemasons, whatever. It's all NWO, but who says even the NWO doesn't have infighting? I don't necessarily see the Pope as the head of it but I'm open to anything. Now how about you stop acting like everyone here has a one-track mind.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 26, 2011, 02:11:52 PM
'Syria turns missiles towards Turkey'

Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:22PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/212313.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/212313.html)

Turkish sources say that Syria has turned its Russian-made SCUD missiles towards Turkey, Press TV reports.

The sources said that the missiles have been deployed in Syria's Kamisili and Ayn Diwar regions, Press TV's Ankara correspondent reported on Saturday.

The two regions are close to the borders of Turkey and Iraq.

This comes as Turkey has recently stepped up its rhetoric against the Syrian government. Reports have also emerged suggesting that Turkey is harboring Syrian armed opposition groups.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Assad.

Damascus says the unrest has been largely incited by elements that are well-paid and armed by foreign powers. Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

The opposition and Western countries accuse Syrian security forces of being behind the killings in the country, but the government blames what it describes as outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
Title: Syria: Pro-regime hailed “National Army” & Anti-regime hailed Defectors Ones
Post by: laconas on November 26, 2011, 05:35:58 PM
This site appears to a Jewish creation. It's getting top spots on Google for starters. Buyer beware.



Syria: Pro-regime hailed “National Army” & Anti-regime hailed Defectors Ones

(DP-News - agencies)

SYRIA- The Syrian Military vowed Friday to "cut every evil hand" that targets the country's security, at what was urged like as Syria's government is taking a defiant stance, as it faces possible economic sanctions from the Arab League (AL).

In a statement issued on Friday, the Syrian military blamed terrorists for an attack a day earlier in Homs, saying six elite pilots and four technical officers were killed in an ambush.

“The General Command of the Army and Armed Forces announced that an armed terrorist group carried out a vicious assassination operation which claimed the lives of six pilots, one technical officer and three technical sub-officers of a military airbase, as they were passing Palmyra-Homs axis on Thursday afternoon.”
Syria Official News round-up on Tuesday Nov. 22
President al-Assad: Syria will not bow down
Syria defied Arab League?
Democratic Korean Workers delegation voiced Support to Syria


According to the statement, the General Command considered this direct targeting of the officers who were qualitatively trained in piloting modern military aircrafts and prepared to carry out the "sacred duty of liberating the land and restoring the usurped rights" as a "dangerous terrorist escalation."

It added that this escalation exposes the real face of the plot which targets the structure of the Syrian Armed Forces with all its types and confirms foreign parties' involvement in supporting these terrorist operations with the aim of undermining the qualitative combat capabilities of the Armed Forces.

The statement said the General Command of the Army and Armed Forces considers that the beneficiaries of this terrorist act are the enemies of the Homeland and the Nation, foremost being Israel.

"The general command of the armed forces sees that enemies of the country are behind this terrorist act," the military said.

"In this light, the General Command stresses the Armed Forces' determination to carry out all tasks assigned to them and their permanent readiness to defend the security of the homeland and citizens, cut off the vicious hand that targets the Syrian blood and decisively confront all who threaten the homeland's security and stability," the statement concluded.

On Friday, the defected Syrian Free Army (SFA), a group of army defectors with Turkey-based leadership, claimed responsibility for the killing of seven army pilots who were ambushed near the violence-slammed province of Homs.

The ambush "took place on the Palmyra-Homs road yesterday afternoon."

The attack was claimed on Thursday by the rebel Free Syrian Army who said seven military pilots was killed in an ambush on a bus.

It is not clear who was behind Thursday's attacks. It's impossible to verify events on the ground because Syria has banned foreign journalists and prevented independent reporting.

Syria's official SANA news agency said rallies erupted Friday in coastal Latakia, Tartous, Banias and northern Qamishly provinces and that crowds of people who slam the AL ultimatum were streaming into Sabaa Bahrat square in the capital Damascus.

Thousands of Syrians thronged to streets and main squares in several cities to express rejection and anger over the AL stances, according to Syria's official media.

In turn, State television Syria TV denied there a death in Deir Ezzor.

SANA said the Syrians consider the AL "as a tool of foreign interference" which serves a Western agenda to foment trouble in the region.

The official SANA news agency Friday also reported that two experts were killed trying to defuse a bomb in the restive city of Hama, in central Syria, accusing "armed terrorist groups" of planting the device.

The state-run agency, quoting a police source, said three other bombs exploded in Hama, while as the military confirmed that six elite pilots and four others were killed in an attack on Thursday, accusing foreign powers of supporting acts of terror within Syria.

SANA reported “Three members of a military engineering unit and law-enforcement members were martyred and several others injured in explosive device blast in Hama and in an attack on a law-enforcement feeding car in Daraa.”

Meanwhile, the Police Command in Damascus dismissed what al-Arabiya satellite TV channel reported on clashes in Barzeh neighborhood as "completely untrue", stressing that life in the neighborhood is normal and calm.

In Idleb at northern Syria, SANA reported “13-year old kid from Taftanaz town martyred in an explosive device blast planted by armed terrorist groups to the north of the town, while he was herding sheep.”

“In al-Rastan, Homs Province, 16 terrorists were killed and dozens wounded in a successful operation carried out by the competent authorities yesterday. Large amounts of weapons and ammunition including Israeli-made weapons, mines, and mortar were confiscated during the operation.” SANA added.

“More than 50 stolen ID cards used to mislead the competent authorities and citizens and hide the real criminals were found.

10 car with fake plates used by the gunmen in their attacks on citizens and law-enforcement forces were also seized.” SANA report concluded.

President al-Assad`s regime blames the unrest on a foreign plot to destabilize Syria, saying extremists and terrorists not true reformers are driving the calls to oust him.

On the other hand, Media reports indicated “Many Syrians resent police and intelligence agencies that they blame for oppressing the uprising, they respect the armed forces.”

However, the Doha-based al-Jazeera TV, which the Syrian government accuses of falsifying the events in Syria, cited witnesses as saying that anti-regime protests erupted in several areas echoing support to the Syrian Free Army (SFA).

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told AFP Friday “at least six people were killed when security forces opened fire on demonstrators at various flashpoints in the south, centre and east of the country.”

It said three people were killed, including a 19-year-old man, in central Homs province when security forces opened fire near a mosque, while a 16-year-old was shot dead in the southern Daraa province, cradle of eight months of dissent, the Observatory said according to AFP.

Another man was killed in the eastern city of Deir Ezzor and a sixth near Damascus, according to the rights watchdog.

According to the Observatory, huge protests took place across Idlib on Friday, mainly in Maaret Noman where demonstrators called for the "fall of the regime."

In turn, Associated Press (AP) reported that Syrian Internet activists had called for a day of massive protests nationwide in support of the rebel Syrian Free Army (SFA) which has stepped up attacks in a bid to topple the regime.

"The Free Army is the guardian of our peaceful revolution," anti-regime activists said on their Facebook site Syria Revolution 2011.

Like most Fridays since the start of the pro-democracy movement in mid-March, protesters emerged from midday prayers to face security forces that bolstered their deployment at key centers of dissent.

Syria is the scene of the deadliest crackdown against the Arab Spring's eruption of protests, with the UN reporting more than 3,500 people killed in eight months. International pressure has been mounting on Assad to stop the killing.

The AL had given Syria a 24-hour deadline to agree to an observer mission or face sanctions. But the deadline passed with no agreement. Instead, there was a letter from Syria looking for more details about the mission.

According to an Arab League official, the league will meet Saturday to decide on sanctions.


      http://www.dp-news.com/en/detail.aspx?articleid=104315
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: clefty on November 27, 2011, 04:01:25 AM
Okay, so Rome's involvement in Kosovo was less obvious than joint Israeli-Albanian mafias (which do exist).
less obvious? who is even looking for it? i dont see threads here searching rome's involvement


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Doesn't mean we don't remember the Crusader kingdoms.
rome has current interests and investments not some middle age holy grailing romance



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But don't deny the Joos have interests in the area either.
israel is a european construct...its even in the euro cup...

its joos are not at all what were biblical joos...

modern joos have interests sure...and that's well covered here at FP...joos are interested in parasitic welfare state and lifestyle as payment for wreaking havoc to middle eastern stability and use for scapegoats (same trick used in germany)

 "vatican's bankers" werent fools


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In the end, Rome, Joos, Freemasons, whatever. It's all NWO, but who says even the NWO doesn't have infighting? I don't necessarily see the Pope as the head of it but I'm open to anything.
really? ROME?...again, I dont see it in ANY thread...

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Now how about you stop acting like everyone here has a one-track mind.
how about you show me one thread the vatican aspect is even addressed in any of these current events...

its nothing but da jooooos...(who follow rome)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 27, 2011, 08:55:06 AM
Arab League approves unprecedented sanctions on Syria

Published: 27 November, 2011, 19:26
source: http://rt.com/news/arab-league-syria-sanctions-321/ (http://rt.com/news/arab-league-syria-sanctions-321/)

A halt to transactions with the Syrian central bank, the suspension of commercial flights and a travel ban on senior officials are among the new set of sanctions approved by the Arab League - a move Damascus has slammed as a betrayal.

At a news conference in Cairo, Qatari Foreign Minister Hamad bin Jassim said 19 of the League's 22 member nations approved the sanctions to “avoid any suffering for the Syrian people.”

Qatar has also warned of foreign intervention in Syria if the Arab League sanctions fail.

However, the bloc is ready to reconsider the sanctions if Syria carries out an Arab-brokered peace plan that includes sending observers to the country and pulling tanks from the streets, Arab League Secretary General Nabil Elaraby said.

The sanctions are a huge blow for a Syrian regime that considers itself a powerhouse of Arab nationalism. The state-owned Al-Thawra newspaper ran a front-page headline Sunday saying the Arab League is calling for "economic and commercial sanctions targeting the Syrian people."  It said the measure is "unprecedented and contradicts the rules of Arab cooperation."

A day earlier the Syrian Foreign Minister, Walid Muallem, accused the Arab League of agreeing, “to involvement of foreign forces in the conflict, instead of taking all measures to prevent foreign interference.” The message came in a letter to the Arab League as ministers from the group gathered in Cairo to impose heavy sanctions on Syria, reports AFP.

Muallem emphasized that the proposed conditions for deployment of Arab observers in the country were unacceptable to Syria. According to the minister, the Arab League protocol "fully ignores the role of the Syrian state and tramples underfoot national sovereignty".

The sanctions are in response to Syria’s violent crackdown on the eight-month uprising in the country against the rule of President Bashar Assad, which the UN estimates has killed more than 3,500 people since March.
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: Spahi on November 27, 2011, 01:31:36 PM

rome has current interests and investments not some middle age holy grailing romance

I am aware of this. I put that map up to serve as a reminder, not as a romantic dream. They've already taken Egypt and Libya (again). Syria and Lebanon are next, followed by Parthia, Caesar's unfulfilled dream. Easily coincides with oil barons, Rothschild bankers, and Israeli fanatics.

israel is a european construct...its even in the euro cup...

Yes, thanks to London and Washington mostly. Rome had easy capitals to take the brunt of the blame.

modern joos have interests sure...and that's well covered here at FP...joos are interested in parasitic welfare state and lifestyle as payment for wreaking havoc to middle eastern stability and use for scapegoats (same trick used in germany)

Well sometimes the way you sound you act like plans for 'greater Israel' don't exist. I just wonder when the nwo hydra will start fighting with each others heads.

really? ROME?...again, I dont see it in ANY thread...
 how about you show me one thread the vatican aspect is even addressed in any of these current events...


There probably isn't one, but I know I have at least referred to the Libya invasion as a crusade.
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: Spahi on November 27, 2011, 02:42:09 PM
 

israel is a european construct...its even in the euro cup...

Yes, thanks to London and Washington mostly. Rome had easy capitals to take the brunt of the blame.

I mean, London and Washington provided the veil for Rome's ambition.
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: clefty on November 27, 2011, 05:13:33 PM

Well sometimes the way you sound you act like plans for 'greater Israel' don't exist.

the joo angle is WELL covered here at FP...

I thought to add something to the mix by recalling a corporation well known to have plans for world dominion...its ceo claims to be "ruler of the world"

its been fun...

why just reading about the implantation and adoption of the gregorian calendar reveals its power

take for example

"In Russia the Gregorian calendar was accepted after the October Revolution (so named because it took place in October 1917 in the Julian calendar). On 24 January 1918 the Council of People's Commissars issued a Decree that Wednesday, 31 January 1918 was to be followed by Thursday, 14 February 1918, thus dropping 13 days from the calendar"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar#Adoption

so the bolshevists got russia to follow rome...wow

and look

"All of the other Eastern churches, the Oriental Orthodox churches (Coptic, Ethiopian, Eritrean, and Syrian) continue to use their own calendars" Ibid...

hmmm...

oh well...back to "its da jooo"
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 28, 2011, 07:17:13 AM
Sea alert: Russian warships head for Syria

Published: 28 November, 2011, 15:19
source: http://rt.com/news/russian-aircraft-carrier-syria-363/ (http://rt.com/news/russian-aircraft-carrier-syria-363/)

(http://rt.com/files/news/russian-aircraft-carrier-syria-363/moscow-ships-tartus-war.n.jpg)
Heavy aircraft-carrying missile cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov (image from http://pilot.strizhi.info)

Moscow is deploying warships at its base in the Syrian port of Tartus. The long-planned mission comes, providentially, at the very moment when it could help prevent a potential conflict in the strategically important Middle Eastern country.

­The Russian battle group will consist of three vessels led by the heavy aircraft-carrying missile cruiser, Admiral Kuznetsov.

Russian military officials insist that the move has no connection with the ongoing crisis in the region and was planned a year ago, the Izvestia newspaper reports. Apart from Syria, the aircraft carrier and its escort ships are set to visit the Lebanese capital, Beirut, Genoa in Italy and Cyprus, says the former Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Viktor Kravchenko.

Nevertheless, he added that the presence of a military force other than NATO’s is very useful for this region, because “it will prevent the outbreak of an armed conflict,” Izvestia quoted Kravchenko as saying.

The Soviet Union, the Admiral recalled, created a special naval squadron to deter Western military forces in the Mediterranean Sea. To repair and supply its ships, Moscow needed its own maintenance base in the region, and that was how the base in Tartus came into being.

At present, the base is mostly used to support vessels of Russia’s Black Sea fleet. Some 600 military and civilian personnel of the Defense Ministry serve there.

News of Russia’s naval deployment in Tartus came shortly after the US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS George HW Bush anchored off Syria, along with additional naval vessels. The US battle group is to remain in the Mediterranean, allegedly to conduct maritime security operations and support missions as part of Operations Enduring Freedom and New Dawn. The US 6th Fleet is also patrolling the area, Interfax reports.

“Of course, the Russian naval forces in the Mediterranean will be incommensurate with those of the US 6th Fleet, which includes one or two aircraft carriers and several escort ships,” Admiral Kravchenko explained. “But today, no one talks about possible military clashes, since an attack on any Russian ship would be regarded as a declaration of war with all the consequences.”

The mission is set to start in early December, when the Admiral Kuznetsov begins its journey in the Barents Sea, accompanied by another vessel of Russia’s Northern Fleet, the heavy ASW ship Admiral Chabanenko. The group will then skirt the European continent from the west and enter the Mediterranean through the Straits of Gibraltar.

Later, they will be joined by frigate Ladny of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. It will travel through the Bosphorus, with a stop-over in Malta’s Valletta.

Admiral Kuznetsov will be carrying eight Sukhoi Su-33 all-weather fighters, two Kamov Ka-27 anti-submarine helicopters and several brand new Mig-29K fighters. The Mig fighters were built for India’s air force and are supposed to be “tested” during their first assignment.

Military officials have stressed that all flights will be performed in open waters, away from the Syrian coast.

Unlike American aircraft carriers, designed largely as floating runways, Admiral Kuznetsov is a heavily-armed aircraft-carrying cruiser. Its primary armaments, among others, are 12 long-range surface-to-surface anti-ship Granit cruise missiles, a six-gun short-range surface-to-air missile system Kinzhal, eight close-in air defense Kashtan gun-missile systems and two UDAV-1 anti-submarine systems.

The Admiral Kuznetsov has already been twice to the port of Tartus during its assignments in the Mediterranean and Atlantic Ocean  in 1995 and 2007.
Title: - Syrian Regime “slams” Arab League threat
Post by: Spahi on November 28, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
the joo angle is WELL covered here at FP...

I thought to add something to the mix by recalling a corporation well known to have plans for world dominion...its ceo claims to be "ruler of the world"

its been fun...


It's a welcome addition.

"In Russia the Gregorian calendar was accepted after the October Revolution (so named because it took place in October 1917 in the Julian calendar). On 24 January 1918 the Council of People's Commissars issued a Decree that Wednesday, 31 January 1918 was to be followed by Thursday, 14 February 1918, thus dropping 13 days from the calendar"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar#Adoption

so the bolshevists got russia to follow rome...wow


Very interesting.

"All of the other Eastern churches, the Oriental Orthodox churches (Coptic, Ethiopian, Eritrean, and Syrian) continue to use their own calendars" Ibid...

Makes me wonder why the Brits intervened on behalf of Ethiopia in WW2. How does their old emperor fit into this?

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 28, 2011, 10:19:51 AM
Sea alert: Russian warships head for Syria

Published: 28 November, 2011, 15:19
source: http://rt.com/news/russian-aircraft-carrier-syria-363/ (http://rt.com/news/russian-aircraft-carrier-syria-363/)

(http://rt.com/files/news/russian-aircraft-carrier-syria-363/moscow-ships-tartus-war.n.jpg)
Heavy aircraft-carrying missile cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov (image from http://pilot.strizhi.info)

That is an impressive looking state of the art aircraft carrier. Very slick, efficient and clean looking design.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on November 28, 2011, 11:34:32 AM
That is an impressive looking state of the art aircraft carrier. Very slick, efficient and clean looking design.

Too shiny to be attacked hopefully.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 28, 2011, 02:55:21 PM
Too shiny to be attacked hopefully.

Indeed, far too pretty. If the sh^t hits the fan, Russia and China would be a formidable force.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on November 28, 2011, 04:46:58 PM
Indeed, far too pretty. If the sh^t hits the fan, Russia and China would be a formidable force.

Wait until those Zipperheads in China find out their US treasury bonds are worthless
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on November 28, 2011, 05:48:19 PM
That is an impressive looking state of the art aircraft carrier. Very slick, efficient and clean looking design.

Nice looking ship, too bad they'll be the first to be taken with hypersonic nuke missiles in the next war. Aircraft carriers will be useless in the next won't be around in the next war as well as small aircraft and tanks; shoulder fired missiles and Rpg's will also makes these two useless. More than likely when these tools have been exhausted they'll use biologicals and chemicals.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 28, 2011, 08:23:10 PM
Wait until those Zipperheads in China find out their US treasury bonds are worthless

If you and most of us 'little' people know, you can bet that they know too.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on November 28, 2011, 08:32:59 PM
More than likely when these tools have been exhausted they'll use biologicals and chemicals.

I can see that. But I don't think that the Russians are behind the eight-ball either, they too have nukes and chemicals. However, none of this helps us little people.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on November 30, 2011, 09:14:30 AM
Nice looking ship, too bad they'll be the first to be taken with hypersonic nuke missiles in the next war. Aircraft carriers will be useless in the next won't be around in the next war as well as small aircraft and tanks; shoulder fired missiles and Rpg's will also makes these two useless. More than likely when these tools have been exhausted they'll use biologicals and chemicals.

Stick a smart missile with a nuke warhead, and put it on a drone. Remember the Straights of Hormuz are only 10 miles wide, with mountain ranges on Iran's side.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 30, 2011, 09:56:38 AM
'US sends terrorists to fight Syria govt.'

Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:35PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213067.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213067.html)

The US has reportedly released hundreds of terrorists from its prisons in Iraq on condition that they leave the country for Syria and fight against the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

More than 400 terrorist have been freed from US prisons in Iraq to help fuel unrest in Syria, Islam Times quoted Lebanese political analyst Anis al-Naqqash as saying. He added that they have entered Syria illegally via Turkey.

Naqqash also criticized Arab media for leading a propaganda campaign against the Syrian government and trying to implicate the Syrian army for the killing of hundreds of civilians and unarmed demonstrators.

He added that the Arab media refuse to report the atrocities committed by armed groups in Syria which has left nearly 2,000 security personnel dead.

Meanwhile, Turkish lawmaker Birgul Ayman Guler, the deputy chairperson of Turkey's main opposition party, the Republican People's Party (CHP), said that Western media outlets are not reflecting the reality in Syria.

Guler, who visited Syria about one month ago as part of a Turkish delegation comprised of 38 women, told Press TV on Tuesday that the reality in Syria is different from what the Western media outlets are reporting.

''What we understood during the visit was that the Western media were lying about the situation in Syria,'' she said, adding that foreign elements, such as the United States and the European Union, are trying to carry out a plot in Syria.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in favor of President Bashar al-Assad. Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

The opposition and Western countries accuse Syrian security forces of being behind the killings in the country, but Damascus blames what it describes as outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

President Assad has warned against any foreign attack against Syria, saying the military action will cause instability in the whole Middle East.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 30, 2011, 10:16:01 AM
Just in case? Russian fleet to reach Syria in December

Published: 30 November, 2011, 01:09
source: http://rt.com/news/russian-fleet-syrian-port-513/ (http://rt.com/news/russian-fleet-syrian-port-513/)

(http://rt.com/files/news/russian-fleet-syrian-port-513/admiral-cruiser-heavy-aircraft-carrying.n.jpg)
Heavy aircraft-carrying missile cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov. (RIA Novosti / Alexey Danichev)

Speculation is growing whether Russian war ships heading to the Mediterranean will indeed anchor by the Syrian coast. And, despite military officials’ assurances, some expect it to disturb the balance of power in the region.

­Conflicting reports are coming from the Russian military on whether the Russian battle group of three vessels led by the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier will in fact visit the Syrian port of Tartus.

The long-planned mission will begin on December 10 and one source in the Russian Defense Ministry has told Itar-Tass news agency that the ships will arrive at the port by the end of December.

Meanwhile, other military sources told Ria Novosti news agency that the group will only carry out drill in the Mediterranean and in the Atlantic without entering Tartus and, in any case, the Admiral Kuznetsov is too large to be able to dock there.

The naval base in the Syrian port of Tartus is operated by the Russian military under an agreement signed in 1971 between Syria and the Soviet Union.

Nikolay Makarov of the Russian Army General Staff said that the decision to send a group of Russian Navy warships to the Mediterranean Sea was due to “obligations before its Western colleagues” and the exercises were planned long before the tensions in Syria became so high.

When asked whether the squadron of ships will approach the Syrian coast, Makarov evaded the question, saying that the Russian Navy has "a planned number of exercises which have nothing to do with Syria."

The minister plenipotentiary at the Syrian embassy to Russia, Suleiman Abudiab, has also said that “one should not link the Russian warships' plans to call at Tartus with the current situation in Syria,” as cited by Interfax news agency. He added, however, that Russia is a friend of Syria and its ships can visit Syrian ports any time “for repair and other reasons.”

Both Russian and Syrian officials are stressing that all drills and flights are planned to be performed in open waters, away from the Syrian coast.

Nevertheless, with the international pressure on Syria growing and the US 6th Fleet patrolling the area at the moment, a neutral force not far from the troubled country’s coast might calm some nerves.

There’s no speech about preventing a direct military intervention in Syria with the assistance of Russia’s or anyone else’s forces, Suleiman Abudiab stressed.

“I think clever people understand that no one needs to light a fire in the Middle East," he pointed out.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrontierJustice on November 30, 2011, 04:08:11 PM
Speculation is growing whether Russian war ships heading to the Mediterranean will indeed anchor by the Syrian coast. And, despite military officials’ assurances, some expect it to disturb the balance of power in the region.

More like balance the disturbance of power in the region.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on November 30, 2011, 07:52:11 PM
Turkey slaps sanctions on Syria

Published: 01 December, 2011, 04:34
source: http://rt.com/news/turkey-imposes-sanctions-syria-617/ (http://rt.com/news/turkey-imposes-sanctions-syria-617/)


Ahmet Davutoglu (AFP Photo / Adem Altan)

Turkey has imposed tough economic sanctions on its former ally, Syria. In response to the ongoing violence there, Ankara has frozen officials’ assets, suspended financial dealings with the country, and banned all military sales.

The Turkish measures come following sanctions imposed by the Arab League, the United States and the European Union. Syria has called the move “economic warfare.”

“It is a must now that international and local pressure is increased and necessary steps are taken to protect the Syrian people from the cruelty of the present administration,” Turkey’s foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu told a news conference.

“All shipments of arms and military equipment through Turkey's land, airspace and seas will be prevented,” he said.

Turkey is Syria's largest trading partner, and the countries did $2.4 billion in trade last year, the Associated Press says, quoting the Turkish embassy in Damascus.

The tough measures by a former ally come in response to the ongoing crackdown against the anti-government uprising in Syria. The United Nations estimates that at least 3,500 people have been killed during the unrest.

Earlier this week, the UN released a report stating that government forces had committed crimes against humanity in their brutal crackdown on protesters.

Russia believes the unrest was triggered by armed Syrian opposition, and has called on both sides to begin a dialogue.

­Author and blogger Eric Pottenger told RT that the notion of a humanitarian war in Syria coming from NATO countries is based on the Responsibility to Protect doctrine, which they use to wage wars of aggression against sovereign states. “This was the doctrine that led to the Libyan operation,” he said.

LW - “All shipments of arms and military equipment through Turkey's land, airspace and seas will be prevented,” he said. Excepting of course any crates labeled 'made in Israel/UK/US'
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 01, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
'Syrian saboteurs train in Turkey'

Thu Dec 1, 2011 9:36PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213295.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213295.html)

The head of Turkey's main opposition group has accused the government of allowing the country's soil to be used for training Syrian armed groups, Press TV reports.

"Is it appropriate for Turkey to use its soil for training armed forces with the aim of creating unrest in another country?" Kemal Kilicdaroglu, the head of Republican People's Party (CHP), told reporters in Ankara on Thursday.

"While we have lots of problems ourselves, why do we meddle in the internal affairs of another country?" he added.

His remarks came after Turkey's Taraf daily reported that Ankara was establishing a 'buffer zone' in Syria to provide Syrian rebels with shelter.

"We say 'Great Turkey', 'Powerful Turkey'. Can a great and powerful Turkey use its soil to support an armed force with the aim of meddling in another country? Is such an understanding possible?" Kilicdaroglu questioned.

"What if tomorrow another country begins training armed forces in its soil against Turkey and begins interfering in our affairs? This is wrong. This not appropriate for the future of Turkey," he argued.

The official also accused the Turkish government of having turned into a contractor for the 'dominant powers.'

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Bashar al-Assad.

Hundreds of people, including many members of the security forces, have been killed in the unrest.

The government blames outlaws, saboteurs, and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, saying that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

The opposition and Western countries accuse the Syrian security forces of being behind the killings. Damascus strongly rejects the claim, asserting that the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.

In September, the Syria Steps news website said Syrian cyber specialists had uncovered an anti-Damascus agreement struck between Turkey and France.

In line with the deal, Turkey would facilitate implementation of France's strategic plans in the Middle East, especially in Syria, Israel, and Lebanon.

The report noted that, in line with the accord, Ankara would help deposing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad by reinforcing the Syrian opposition among other things. Paris would instead ease Turkey's accession to the European Union before the end of 2012.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 01, 2011, 08:18:40 PM

Quote
The report noted that, in line with the accord, Ankara would help deposing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad by reinforcing the Syrian opposition among other things. Paris would instead ease Turkey's accession to the European Union before the end of 2012.

They got to work fast to get Turkey into the EU before the EU collapses. They tried the same in the Ukraine; the EU told them to free one their crooks or there would be a delay in their EU application -- the Ukraine told the to f*ck-off. I suspect the Jew's EU card isn't what it used to be.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Spahi on December 01, 2011, 08:42:11 PM
They got to work fast to get Turkey into the EU before the EU collapses. They tried the same in the Ukraine; the EU told them to free one their crooks or there would be a delay in their EU application -- the Ukraine told the to f*ck-off. I suspect the Jew's EU card isn't what it used to be.

Turkey joining the EU seems code for "Turkey is spared from future invasion." But if they attack Syria Russia is just waiting just across the Mountains, if they decide to back Syria up anyways.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 01, 2011, 09:10:40 PM
Turkey joining the EU seems code for "Turkey is spared from future invasion." But if they attack Syria Russia is just waiting just across the Mountains, if they decide to back Syria up anyways.

The jew controlled Turkish govt. doesn't have the support of the Turkish people. It's another one of those it's only a matter time things. The Turkish govt. openly backing a Jewish plan to down Syria won't go unnoticed by the Turkish people.

Good point about the EU wanting them and really needing them.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on December 02, 2011, 06:54:31 AM
Turkey slaps sanctions on Syria


LW - “All shipments of arms and military equipment through Turkey's land, airspace and seas will be prevented,” he said. Excepting of course any crates labeled 'made in Israel/UK/US'

The Turks have probably gotten 'assurances' from NATO that the PKK will be reigned in as long as they co-operate with the plans for Syria.

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 02, 2011, 10:00:14 AM
The jew controlled Turkish govt. doesn't have the support of the Turkish people. It's another one of those it's only a matter time things. The Turkish govt. openly backing a Jewish plan to down Syria won't go unnoticed by the Turkish people.

Turkish activists slam Iran sanctions

Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:47PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213462.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213462.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111202/esmaeeli20111202182324607.jpg)
Protesters shout slogans as they burn a US flag during an anti-America
protest after the Friday Prayers in Istanbul on December 2, 2011.


Hundreds of people have gathered in the Turkish city of Istanbul to voice their anger at US and British efforts to impose more sanctions on Iran.

The protest rally on Friday came as US Vice President Joe Biden is in the country to press Turkish leaders to join the US-backed sanctions against Iran over its nuclear energy program.

Burning US and British flags, the demonstrators also condemned the two countries' role in the war in Afghanistan. They also condemned Biden's visit.

Biden has met with Turkish President Abdullah Gul and parliament speaker Cemil Cicek in Ankara and discussed regional events including Syria unrest, Iran sanctions and the situation of Iraq after the withdrawal of American troops.

Biden has reportedly praised Ankara over its anti-Syria stance and economic sanctions that it has imposed on Damascus.

Turkey, which has strong cultural and trade ties with Iran, has been traditionally against Tehran sanctions.

However, in September, Ankara agreed to host NATO's "early warning radar system" on its territory as part of NATO's missile defense system despite strong opposition from Iran.

According to Pentagon, the radar base, which is set to be established in the eastern province of Malatya near the Iranian border, will be deployed by the end of the year.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on December 02, 2011, 10:42:05 AM
'Syrian saboteurs train in Turkey'

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111201/gholami20111201204239890.jpg) <--- source (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213295.html)
Kemal Kilicdaroglu, the head of Republican People's Party (CHP) (file photo)

The head of Turkey's main opposition group has accused the government of allowing the country's soil to be used for training Syrian armed groups, Press TV reports.

"Is it appropriate for Turkey to use its soil for training armed forces with the aim of creating unrest in another country?" Kemal Kilicdaroglu, the head of Republican People's Party (CHP), told reporters in Ankara on Thursday.

"While we have lots of problems ourselves, why do we meddle in the internal affairs of another country?" he added.

His remarks came after Turkey's Taraf daily reported that Ankara was establishing a 'buffer zone' in Syria to provide Syrian rebels with shelter.

"We say 'Great Turkey', 'Powerful Turkey'. Can a great and powerful Turkey use its soil to support an armed force with the aim of meddling in another country? Is such an understanding possible?" Kilicdaroglu questioned.

"What if tomorrow another country begins training armed forces in its soil against Turkey and begins interfering in our affairs? This is wrong. This not appropriate for the future of Turkey," he argued.

The official also accused the Turkish government of having turned into a contractor for the 'dominant powers.'

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Bashar al-Assad.

Hundreds of people, including many members of the security forces, have been killed in the unrest.

The government blames outlaws, saboteurs, and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, saying that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

The opposition and Western countries accuse the Syrian security forces of being behind the killings. Damascus strongly rejects the claim, asserting that the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.

In September, the Syria Steps news website said Syrian cyber specialists had uncovered an anti-Damascus agreement struck between Turkey and France.

In line with the deal, Turkey would facilitate implementation of France's strategic plans in the Middle East, especially in Syria, Israel, and Lebanon.

The report noted that, in line with the accord, Ankara would help deposing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad by reinforcing the Syrian opposition among other things. Paris would instead ease Turkey's accession to the European Union before the end of 2012.

AGB/HN

There are no friends in politics, only interests...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 02, 2011, 04:50:18 PM
Done deal: Russia supplies cruise missiles to Syria

Published: 02 December, 2011, 14:59
source: http://rt.com/politics/russia-syria-missiles-contract-crisis-865/ (http://rt.com/politics/russia-syria-missiles-contract-crisis-865/)

(http://rt.com/files/politics/russia-syria-missiles-contract-crisis-865/coastal-missile-bastion.n.jpg)
Bastion coastal missile

Fulfilling a contract signed in 2007, Russia has supplied Bastion coastal missile systems with Yakhont cruise missiles to Syria under a contract signed in 2007, a diplomatic source in Moscow has told Russian media.

Objecting to Western fears that the defensive weapons system will fall into the hands of terrorist groups, a diplomatic source says that Moscow has fulfilled its obligations as laid out in the five-year-old contract.

"The Yakhont supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles have been supplied as part of Bastion mobile coastal missile systems," the source, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Interfax.

However, delivery of the weapons systems is just the first part of the process, and now “more time is needed to complete Syrian personnel training," the source said, adding that the missile system will “enable Syria to protect its entire coast from a possible seaborne attack."

Damascus is expecting to receive at least two Bastion systems with 36 Yakhont missiles per each system.

According to unofficial estimates, the contract carries a $300 million price tag.

The announcement comes as a Russian naval group, led by the nuclear aircraft-carrier, Admiral Kuznetsov, is en route to the Syrian port of Tartus.

Russian military officials rejected suggestions that the naval visit has any connection with the present turmoil gripping the Arab republic, saying the visit was planned a year ago. In addition to Syria, the aircraft carrier and its escort ships will pull into port at the Lebanese capital, Beirut, Genoa in Italy and Cyprus, says the former Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Viktor Kravchenko.

Speaking on the missile delivery to Syria, Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov told reporters earlier this year that Russia intended to fulfill the 2007 contract.

"We are going to supply Yakhonts to Syria. We are going to fulfill the contract," he said.

The defense minister says Russia, unlike the US and Israel, is confident the technology will not fall into the hands of terrorist organizations.

"The United States and Israel are asking us not to supply Yakhonts to Syria, but we do not share their fears that these weapons might fall into the hands of terrorists," Serdyukov said.

"Russia strictly specifies the terms of weapons supply and maintenance and properly formalizes end-user certificates. And they [the Syrian side] undertake commitments," he explained.

The Yakhont 3M55E supersonic anti-ship cruise missile is capable of hitting targets at ranges of up to 300 km and carrying a warhead weighing more than 200 kg and can combat single surface ships or groups of ships under heavy fire and electronic counteraction.

The completion of the deal comes at a time of increasing political uncertainty for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who is struggling to maintain his grip on power in the face of a nine-month conflict with anti-government protesters.

With the situation in Syria appearing to be teetering on civil war, many observers fear another “Libyan-scenario” will occur complete with another NATO military operation.

Russia roundly criticized the NATO’s handling of the Libyan crisis, saying the military alliance overstepped their UN-mandated obligations to protect innocent civilians and worked aggressively on the side of the rebels to depose former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

Gaddafi is believed to have been summarily executed just moments after being captured by rebel militia on Oct. 11, 2001 in his hometown of Sirte.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on December 02, 2011, 06:37:54 PM
Good news for Syria! 
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 02, 2011, 06:59:18 PM
Good news for Syria!

Let us see if Russia delivers. Then again, it may well be that the missiles are already on board of the naval flotilla Russia has dispatched to Tartus.

What I thought interesting over and above this sudden announcement by Russia is the inclusion of this statement. “more time is needed to complete Syrian personnel training,". This would mean that Syria will be host to a number of Russian personnel who will be there for a bit manning these units alongside the Syrians. I expect they'll probably be over-staffing those training crews for awhile. This of course would mean that any attack on Syria will be more of a challenge than was anticipated and should Russians die in case of such an attack then Russia has a casus belli for throwing their hat into the ring. A rather intense game of chess going on here.

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on December 02, 2011, 07:18:14 PM
Let us see if Russia delivers. Then again, it may well be that the missiles are already on board of the naval flotilla Russia has dispatched to Tartus.

What I thought interesting over and above this sudden announcement by Russia is the inclusion of this statement. “more time is needed to complete Syrian personnel training,". This would mean that Syria will be host to a number of Russian personnel who will be there for a bit manning these units alongside the Syrians. I expect they'll probably be over-staffing those training crews for awhile. This of course would mean that any attack on Syria will be more of a challenge than was anticipated and should Russians die in case of such an attack then Russia has a casus belli for throwing their hat into the ring. A rather intense game of chess going on here.

The training will slow things down a bit. Russia seems to be getting into the act (http://www.freedomportal.net/index.php?topic=21385.msg210777#msg210777), judging by their presence in the 'neighborhood, who knows what will happen. They are not amused about the excessive sanctions for Iran.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 02, 2011, 08:51:03 PM
The training will slow things down a bit. Russia seems to be getting into the act (http://www.freedomportal.net/index.php?topic=21385.msg210777#msg210777), judging by their presence in the 'neighborhood, who knows what will happen. They are not amused about the excessive sanctions for Iran.

The Jew's comments have been that Syria is going to have a civil war. In others words the cost to attack is too great so we've decided to pay, arm, and train mercs and have them enter from Turkey, Lebanon, Iraq, and Turkey. Syria is surrounded and it won't be easy for the Syrians to win faced with daily terror attacks from all sides.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on December 03, 2011, 08:14:19 AM
Look for the market bombs, followed by a Jewish poodle leader. At best America will send drones, but 150,000 Americans on the ground -I doubt that
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on December 03, 2011, 02:42:50 PM
The Jew's comments have been that Syria is going to have a civil war. In others words the cost to attack is too great so we've decided to pay, arm, and train mercs and have them enter from Turkey, Lebanon, Iraq, and Turkey. Syria is surrounded and it won't be easy for the Syrians to win faced with daily terror attacks from all sides.

Yes, I hear you.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 03, 2011, 05:26:33 PM
Gunmen kill Syrian security official, family

Sun Dec 4, 2011 12:0AM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213662.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213662.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111203/shamseddin20111203232458340.jpg)
Syrian troops carry the bodies of comrades killed in clashes with terrorist elements. (File photo)

Armed men in Syria have killed a security official along with a number of his relatives in the restive city of al-Qamishli in the country's northeast.

UPI cited Syrian security sources as confirming the man was murdered on Saturday in the attack, which also killed his brother's wife and his five and 15-year-old children, Fars news agency reported.

The official's body was reportedly riddled by 35 bullets, while the five-year-old sustained head shots that ripped into his brain.

Al-Qamishli has been the scene of terrorist operations since the outbreak of a deadly unrest in Syria in March.

Earlier, Damascus announced more than 1,200 security forces have been killed by terrorist elements backed from outside the country.

In addition, Syrian state TV has broadcast reports showing seized weapons caches and confessions by terrorist elements describing how they obtained arms from foreign sources to carry out armed activities and killing people as well as security forces.

The interviews of Syrian opposition groups with Israeli news outlets clearly show anti-government group's vision for the future of Syria, and indicate their interest in developing relations with Tel Aviv.

Meanwhile, recent measures adopted by the Arab League, including the suspension of Syria's membership in the bloc, have boosted unity among Syrians.

Figures show that during the past weeks, nearly 12 million people have demonstrated in support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on December 03, 2011, 06:17:02 PM
Gunmen kill Syrian security official, family
Figures show that during the past weeks, nearly 12 million people have demonstrated in support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

That is roughly half of the Syrian population:

The population of Syria on December 4th 2011 is approximately 22,749,873. (Extrapolated from a population of 21,906,000 on September 11th 2009 and a population of 22,198,110 on June 29th 2010.)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 03, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
The Syrians have to take-off the kid gloves and start gettting serious by making some examples.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on December 03, 2011, 09:26:20 PM
The Syrians have to take-off the kid gloves and start getting serious by making some examples.

The question is: Will they? Better yet, will Russia help them?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 04, 2011, 09:07:49 PM
Syrians censure Ghalioun's remarks

Sun Dec 4, 2011 4:27PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213792.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213792.html)

Syrians have criticized the recent statements made by opposition leader Burhan Ghalioun about the relations between Syria and Iran, Press TV reports.

Ghalioun, who is the head of the so-called Syrian National Council, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Friday that there will be “no special relationship with Iran.”

“Our relations with Iran will be revisited as any of the countries in the region, based on the exchange of economic and diplomatic interests, in the context of improving stability in the region and not that of a special relationship,” Ghalioun said.

Ghalioun's remarks have faced condemnation by the Syrian people.

Hamid Khalifa, a political analyst in Damascus, told Press TV on Saturday that Ghalioun's political history proves that he was “an agent for the US and Israel.”

“The resistance will continue and the Syrian-Iranian alliance, in addition to the Lebanese and Palestinian resistance, will remain,” Khalifa added.

A Damascus resident said, “Burhan Ghalioun does not represent me. I think he represents none.”

“We do not recognize Burhan Ghalioun. I fully reject his statements. We are an Arab country that supports resistance. The Syrian people support legitimate resistance. We do not accept the so-called Syrian National Council headed by Ghalioun,” said another Damascus resident.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both in favor of and against President Bashar al-Assad.

Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

Damascus blames “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” for the unrest, saying it is being orchestrated from abroad.

Ghalioun also referred to the issue of the Israeli occupied Golan Heights, expressing hope that "the political and geopolitical conditions will be more conducive to reclaiming the Golan through measures of negotiation."

Syrian opposition groups have interviewed Israeli news outlets over the past months. The interviews clearly show their vision for the future of Syria, and indicate their interest in developing relations with Tel Aviv.

Meanwhile, the confession of Syrian rebels to carry out armed activities and killing people as well as security forces proves that recent developments in the country are to be seen as parts of an attempt to start a revolt in order to overthrow the current government and replace it with a US-backed regime.

However, a resolution adopted by the Arab League against Syria has increased the unity of Syrian people. Figures show that during the past weeks, nearly 12 million people have demonstrated in support of President Assad.

The Arab League approved unprecedented sanctions against Syria, including imposition of a ban on commercial flights between Syria and member states, during a session in the Egyptian capital of Cairo on November 27.

The sanctions against Syria also include cutting transactions with the Syrian Central Bank and an embargo on the investment for projects in the country.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 04, 2011, 10:12:15 PM
The question is: Will they? Better yet, will Russia help them?

It seems the Russians are helping by having supplied them with the latest anti-air defenses. That's why we don't see any bombing of Syria. Russia is probably also supplying the with real time satellite images along their border.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on December 05, 2011, 07:32:51 AM
It seems the Russians are helping by having supplied them with the latest anti-air defenses. That's why we don't see any bombing of Syria. Russia is probably also supplying the with real time satellite images along their border.

Right, that is what I have read too. Here are the latest news on Yahoo:

In show of force, Syrian regime holds war games

By Bassem Mroue

BEIRUT (AP) - Syria's state-run media say the country's military has held war games during which the army test-fired missiles and the air force and ground troops conducted operations "similar to a real battle."

The maneuvers come as Syria is under Arab and international pressure to end a crackdown on an eight-month uprising that the U.N. says has killed more than 4,000 people.

State TV said Monday the exercise was meant to test "the capabilities and readiness of missile systems to respond to any possible aggression." It says the war games were held on Sunday.

In October, Syrian President Bashar Assad warned the Middle East "will burn" if the West intervenes in Syria.

Syria is known to have surface-to-surface missiles such as Scuds capable of hitting deep inside its archenemy Israel.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below:

BEIRUT (AP)  Syria said Sunday it is still negotiating with the Arab League over the bloc's request to send observers into the country, as tightening sanctions by Arab and other nations fail to halt the eight-month crackdown on anti-government protesters.

A Foreign Ministry spokesman suggested some headway had been made, but there was no official announcement on whether Syria would sign the agreement.

New violence killed at least nine people on Sunday, including a female university professor and a father and his three children in central Syria, opposition activists said. The Local Coordination Committees activist network put the death toll from violence Sunday at 22, but the number could not be immediately confirmed by other activist groups.

Activists also said a U.S.-born Syrian blogger was arrested at the Syrian-Jordanian border while on her way to attend a workshop for advocates of press freedoms in the Arab world.

A statement issued by the Syrian Center for Media and Freedom of Expression said Razan Ghazzawi was arrested by police and immigration officials at the border while on her way to Amman to attend the conference as a representative of the center.

The Local Coordination Committees activist network confirmed her arrest Sunday.

Ghazzawi is a human rights advocate and had been documenting violations and arrests in Syria since the start of the uprising against President Bashar Assad in March. She is one of the few Syrian activists who blogged under her real name.

Arab leaders have given Syria a new deadline of Sunday to respond to the League's peace plan, which calls for the admission of observers to ensure compliance with a government cease-fire. They also held out the threat of pushing for U.N. involvement if Damascus balks.

Syria's failure to meet a Nov. 25 deadline to allow in observers drew Arab League sanctions, including a ban on dealings with the country's central bank. Together with sanctions from the United States, the European Union and Turkey, the Arab League's penalties are expected to deal significant damage to Syria's economy and may undercut the regime's authority.

The revolt against President Bashar Assad's rule began with peaceful protests in mid-March, triggering a brutal crackdown. The unrest has steadily become bloodier as army defectors join the revolt and some civilians take up arms, prompting the United Nations' human rights chief to refer to it last week as a civil war and urge the international community to protect Syrian civilians.

The U.N. estimates more than 4,000 people have been killed.

Some areas of central Syria, particularly Homs where most of Sunday's deaths occurred, have already been witnessing tit-for-tat sectarian attacks, mostly between majority Sunnis and Alawites from Assad's minority religious sect.

The top U.S. diplomat for the Middle East said Assad is responsible for deepening the sectarian division in Syria.

Jeffrey Feltman said Assad is pegging his ruling Alawite minority, an offshoot of Shiite Islam, against other sects and implementing his "own prophesy, which is moving Syria into more chaos and a civil war."

Feltman said Washington has been in touch with Syrian Christians to prod them "not to stand on the side of the attacker," but declined to elaborate. Many among Syria's Christian and other minorities have sided with Assad's regime, fearing they would be targeted if the Sunni majority takes over.

Speaking in Amman, Jordan, Feltman also told reporters the U.S. has "evidence" that Iran and the militant Lebanese Hezbollah have agents in Syria to bolster Assad's waning regime _ a charge both have repeatedly denied.

Faced with Sunday's new Arab League deadline, Syria signaled it still might be willing to comply with the League's plan, saying its objections were simply a matter of details.

"Messages are being exchanged between Syria and the Arab League to reach a certain vision that would facilitate the mission of observers in Syria while preserving Syrian interests and sovereignty," Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi told reporters in Damascus.

Asked later Sunday whether any decision had been made, he said: "If there are good intentions, the road is open toward signing an agreement." A more detailed response would be made Monday, he said.

Syria, which has already been suspended from the 22-member League, may be playing for time while its crackdown continues.

Qatar's prime minister said Saturday during a meeting of Arab foreign ministers in the Gulf country's capital, Doha, that he expected Syrian envoys to sign an agreement on Sunday.

Sheik Hamad Bin Jassem Bin Jabr Al Thani said failure to reach an agreement may lead to U.N. involvement in the Syrian crisis, although he did not spell out what that meant.

Arab ministers have continued to meet to work out enforcement of the existing sanctions package.

Some sanctions _ the central bank ban, a halt to Arab government funding of projects in Syria and a freeze of Syrian government assets _ went into effect immediately.

Saturday's meeting approved a list of 19 Syrian officials subject to a travel ban. Among them are Assad's younger brother Maher, who is believed to be in command of much of the crackdown, as well as Cabinet ministers, intelligence chiefs and security officers. The list does not include the president himself.

International sanctions have left Assad's regime increasingly isolated.

The Syrian government said Sunday it was suspending a 2004 free-trade agreement with Turkey in response to the penalties imposed by its former close ally.

As a reciprocal measure, it added, all Turkish imports would be subject to customs fees.

Turkey's Economy Minister Zafer Caglayan criticized the move on Sunday saying the Syrian government was "punishing its own people, its own industrialists, exporters and entrepreneurs."

"Despite the Syrian government's decision Turkey will continue to support and side with the people of Syria," Caglayan said in Turkey.

Turkey, a key NATO member and until recently a close partner of Syria, imposed tough new sanctions against Damascus this week that included the suspension of all ties to the Syrian Central Bank and freezing any Syrian government assets in Turkey. Turkey and Syria did $2.4 billion in trade last year, according to the Turkish Embassy in Damascus.
___

Associated Press writer Albert Aji in Damascus, Syria, Suzan Fraser in Ankara, Turkey, and
Jamal Halaby in Amman, Jordan, contributed to this report. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=125&sid=14777441
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 09, 2011, 07:29:18 AM
Jordan seeks to evade Syria sanctions

Fri Dec 9, 2011 2:40PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/214716.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/214716.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111209/esmaeeli20111209143851797.jpg)
Over 300 Jordanian trucks en route to Turkish and European markets pass
through Syria every day (File Photo).


Jordan has asked the Arab League to exempt the kingdom from the bloc's sanctions on Syria, saying cutting trade ties with Damascus will take a heavy toll on the Jordanian economy.


Describing Syria as one of Jordan's main commercial partners and a gateway for the kingdom's trade with the world, a Jordanian foreign ministry official said on Thursday that joining the Arab League's sanctions against Syria would harm the kingdom's already ailing economy, AP reported.

''Jordan supports the Arab consensus regarding the sanctions on Syria, but we have to cater to our economic interests,'' a senior government official said, insisting on anonymity.

Chairman of Jordan's Chamber of Commerce Nael Kabariti had earlier warned that his country will be the first victim and ''biggest loser'' regarding economic sanctions imposed on Syria by the Arab League.

Syria is one of Jordan's main Arab commercial partners, with bilateral trade estimated at USD525 million in the first nine months of this year and 7 billion dollars since 2000.

Syria also serves as a gateway for Jordan's trade with Lebanon, Turkey and Europe. Syria has also USD500 million in deposits in Jordanian banks and multimillion dollar investments there.

The Jordanian government has reportedly asked the Iraqi government to allow Jordan export goods bound for Turkey and Europe via Iraqi territory.

The foreign ministry official said Amman contacted the Arab League two weeks ago over continuing trade with Syria based on a clause in the League's sanctions decision, which states that the embargo must take into consideration the interests of Syria's neighbors.

The League is expected to answer soon, he added.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 09, 2011, 07:47:59 PM
'Meddling in Syrian affairs, disastrous'

Fri Dec 9, 2011 6:59PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/214760.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/214760.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111209/esmaeeli20111209185453890.jpg)
Head of Turkey's Felicity Party Mustafa Kamalak

A top Turkish politician has warned against any intervention in Syria's affairs, saying that any military action against Damascus will turn the Middle East into a ''fireball''.

Criticizing Ankara's anti-Syria stance, head of Turkey's Felicity Party, Mustafa Kamalak, told Press TV on Friday that the military interference in Syria could end up in a situation like Iraq, where over two million people have been killed as a result of Western intervention.

''If there is a problem in Syria, Muslim nations should resolve it through cooperation and the West should not be allowed to intervene in Syria's affairs,” Kamalak said.

''A concrete example is Iraq. There is no doubt that Saddam was an oppressor. But, Saddam was empowered and supported by non-Muslims. The Westerners gave the state-of-the-art weapons to Saddam and encourage him to attack Iran. It was the West and the US again that removed Saddam. But it is really sorrowful that when Saddam was being removed about two million Muslims were murdered and Iraq was destroyed," the Turkish politician said.

"We don't want the same atrocities that have happened in Iraq be repeated in Syria," Kamalak continued.

Many analysts have accused Ankara of paving the way for an Iraq-style war on Syria by remaining subservient to the West over the issue of unrest Syria.

Kamalak also criticized the government for pressuring Damascus by imposing sanctions, accusing Ankara of making anti-Syria decisions under Western pressure.

Kamalak said it would be a grave mistake if Turkey was training anti-Syria militants on its soil. He also condemned Ankara's decision to host a NATO missile system.

"It is not a NATO project. It is an Israeli project that is being implemented through the US mediation. The main aim of the project is to protect Israel. The project will make the Turkish nation a shield for Israel," he said.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 10, 2011, 08:20:01 AM
Turkey Blue Berets sent to Syria border

Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:30PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/214899.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/214899.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111210/gholami20111210155129420.jpg)
File photo shows Blue Berets in the Turkish Army.

Turkish President Abdullah Gul has reportedly ordered the deployment of army forces on Turkey's border with Syria to prevent any act of violence along the border.

The troops, known as Blue Berets in the Turkish Army, are set to establish a security region to deal with possible confrontations along the border with Syria, Turkish newspaper Sabah reported.

The deployment came after Syria earlier this week sent tanks to its border with Turkey, saying they are to confront with terrorist elements attempting to cross into the Syrian territory via Turkey.

On Friday, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Ankara would not hesitate to insulate the region's security from the situation in Syria. Turkey shares a 560 mile border with Syria.

"Turkey has no desire to interfere in anyone's internal affairs. But if a risk to regional security arises, then we do not have the luxury of standing by and looking on," Davutoglu said.

Syria has been experiencing a deadly unrest ever since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government.

Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

Damascus blames “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” for the unrest, saying it is being orchestrated from abroad.

Confessions by Syrian rebels in which they admit to carrying out armed activities and killing people as well as security forces prove that recent developments in the country are to be seen as parts of an attempt to overthrow the current government and replace it with a US-backed regime.

Syrian opposition groups have also been interviewed by Israeli news outlets over the past months. The interviews clearly show the future Syria they envision, which will be developing relations with Tel Aviv.

This is while the Arab League resolution adopted against Syria has increased the unity of Syrians. Figures show that over the past weeks, nearly 12 million people have demonstrated in support of Syrian President Assad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 11, 2011, 07:43:36 PM
Gunman killed in Syria, 13 officers buried

Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:59AM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/215153.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/215153.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111211/nushi20111211233226717.jpg)
Syrian soldiers carry the coffin of one of their camrades who was
killed during the recent unrest. (file photo)


The Syrian security forces have stormed a hideout of armed men in the west of the country, killing one of them, arresting several others, and confiscating their weapons.

The security forces of Homs Governorate conducted the operation in the village of al-Areda in the Talkalakh district on Sunday, on the same day Syria buried thirteen officers who were killed by armed terrorist groups in the Damascus countryside and the western city of Homs.

On Sunday, an armed terrorist group also killed the manager of the Abu Rabah Gas Station in Homs while he was driving his car to the station.

An official source at the Syrian Gas Company told a SANA reporter that the terrorists opened fire on his car, stole the vehicle, and absconded with it.

Amidst all the unrest in Syria and the media hype about the country, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak also made some rhetorical remarks about the situation in Syria on Sunday.

Speaking on the final day of the three-day World Policy Conference in Vienna, Barak predicted that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's government will be toppled in a few weeks.

Barak also said that Assad's fall would be a "blessing” for the Middle East, AFP reported on Sunday.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in favor of President Assad. Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

The Syrian government says outlaws, saboteurs, and armed terrorists are the driving factor behind the unrest while the opposition accuses the security forces of being behind the killings.

The Syrian government also says that the chaos is being orchestrated from outside the country and the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.

In addition, in interviews with Israeli news outlets over the past few months, opposition members clearly expressed their vision for the future of Syria and their interest in establishing relations with Tel Aviv.

LW - for a country that purports to be a magnet for terrorism, Barak is pretty cavalier about terrorism in other nations. but then, those are 'his' terrorists.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 11, 2011, 07:46:46 PM
AL,Trojan horse in anti-Syria scenario

Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:4PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/215106.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/215106.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111211/movahedian20111211153234937.jpg)
Protesters hold a rally in support of President Bashar Assad, pictured
in the large banner, in Damascus, Syria, Friday, Dec. 9, 2011.


A Doha-based paper says the Arab League is slavishly submissive to NATO's orders regarding Syria, adding that the North Atlantic Alliance has never harbored Arab interests.


Writer Omran al-Kuwari pointed to his alarm at the recent news headlines and the media policies adopted by some satellite channels which suggest that a “think tank” is creating the media hype around Syria.

He addressed the group that claims to be “Syrian revolutionaries” and asked how they can call themselves revolutionaries when they have killed pilots who were their fellow compatriots?

He further urged those who consider themselves members of the Army of Free Syria to remember the story of the formation of the Army of Free Lebanon by Israelis.

Al-Kuwari went on to query why Syria was suspended from the Arab League without a unanimous vote?

He cited the opposition of the NATO member states to the Palestinian bid for membership in the United Nations as proof of the Western military alliance is against Arab interests.

Al-Kuwari censured the silence of the Arab League on Washington calling armed Syrian groups to continue military confrontation with Damascus.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in favor of President Assad. Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

While the opposition and Western countries accuse Syrian security forces of being behind the killings, Damascus blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

Syrian opposition groups have also been interviewing Israeli news outlets over the past few months. The interviews clearly show the opposition's vision for the future of Syria, and indicate their interest in developing relations with Tel Aviv.

Meanwhile, the confession of Syrian rebels to carry out armed activities and killing people as well as security forces proves that recent developments in the country are to be seen as parts of an attempt to start a revolt in order to overthrow the current government and replace it with a US-backed regime.

However, the resolution adopted by the Arab League against Syria has increased the unity of Syrian people. Figures show that during the past weeks, nearly 12 million people have demonstrated in support of President Assad.

On Saturday, November 12, the Arab League voted to suspend Syria until after the peace plan proposed by the Arab body and accepted by Damascus on November 2, 2011 has been implemented by the Syrian government.

The plan urges all the parties to stop violence against the Syrian citizens, and also calls on the government to release those who were arrested during the unrest and to withdraw its armed vehicles from the residential areas.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 13, 2011, 08:32:15 AM
US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Published: 13 December, 2011, 20:41
source: http://rt.com/usa/news/us-nato-syria-edmonds-709/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/us-nato-syria-edmonds-709/)

(http://rt.com/files/usa/news/us-nato-syria-edmonds-709/troops-syria-circling.n.jpg)
US troops circling Syria

A former official from within the ranks of the Federal Bureau of Investigation is reporting that US and NATO forces have landed outside of Syria and are training militants to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, formerly a translator with the FBI, wrote over the weekend that American soldiers are among the NATO troops that have mysteriously and suddenly landed on the Jordanian and Syrian border. According to her, several sources internationally have confirmed the news, although the US media has been instructed to temporarily censor itself from reporting the news.

Additionally, Edmonds says that American and NATO forces are training Turkish troops as well, to possibly launch a strike from the north of Syria.

Edmonds writes that an Iraqi journalist based out of London has confirmed that US forces that vacated the Ain al-Assad Air Base in Iraq last week did in fact leave the country as part of President Obama’s drawdown of troops, but rather than return home, the soldiers were transferred into Jordan during the late hours of Thursday evening. Another source, writes Edmonds, informs her that “soldiers who speak languages other than Arabic” have been moving through Jordan mere miles from the country’s border with Syria. Troops believed to be NATO/American-affiliated have been spotted between the King Hussein Air Base in al-Mafraq and the Jordanian village of Albaej and its vicinity.

Nizar Nayouf, a correspondent for Edmond’s Boiling Frog Post whistleblower site, says an employee of the London-based offices of Royal Jordanian Airlines has further confirmed that at least one US aircraft transporting military personnel has brought American troops into Jordan in recent days. Nayouf, the former editor-in-chief of Sawt al-Democratiyya (Democracy's Vote), had previously been sentenced to a decade behind bars for critiquing the Syrian government. He later won several human rights awards and the 2000 UNISCO prize for press freedom.

Since the uprising of rebel forces opposing al-Assad’s regime over Syria nearly a year ago, American officials have been critical of the country’s government but insist that they have otherwise distanced themselves from becoming involved in the protests. Following the deaths of dozens of protesters in the spring of 2011, the United States imposed strict sanctions against the official government of Syria.

Navi Pillay, the United Nations’ high commissioner for human rights, revealed this week that the uprising in Syria has caused over 5,000 deaths since it began in early 2011. In the case of the crackdown against former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi’s regime, NATO involvement began only one month into the uprising. Nine months later, the total death toll of the Libyan Civil War is estimated to be close to 30,000.

In her report, Edmonds says that NATO troops have been training soldiers just outside of Syria since as early as May, and that US media is prohibited from reporting on it until today. The Turkish paper Milliyet also reports that defected Syrian colonel Riad al-Assad is preparing troops to take over the Syrian government as well.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 13, 2011, 08:48:54 AM
Terrorists blow up pipeline in W Syria

Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:45PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/215443.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/215443.html)

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20111213/ostovar20111213103645873.jpg)
A pipeline carrying oil from the east to west Syria was blown up
in Soltaniyeh area near a refinery in the city of Homs on December 8, 2011.


Armed terrorists have blown up a gas pipeline in the Syrian province of Homs, but no casualties have been reported.

The explosion occurred near the town of Rastan, located in northwestern Homs, on Tuesday.

The pipeline carried gas between Rastan and Talbisseh in Homs.

In a similar attack on Thursday, armed terrorists blew up an oil pipeline near the capital of the province, Homs, which has been a major flashpoint in the continuing unrest that Syria has been experiencing since mid-March.

Damascus blames “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” for the unrest, saying that it is being orchestrated from abroad.

Confessions by captured Syrian armed terrorists about foreign-sponsored plans to carry out armed activities and killing ordinary people as well as security forces prove that the recent developments in Syria are aimed at inciting a revolt in the strategic country, and overthrowing the current government and replace it with a regime friendly to the US and Israel.

Syrian opposition groups have also been interviewing Israeli news outlets over the past few months. The interviews clearly show the opposition's vision for the future of Syria, and indicate their interest in developing relations with Tel Aviv.

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said on Tuesday that “more than 5,000” people have been killed by “security forces” since mid-March. However, Bashar Jaafari, the Syrian ambassador to the UN, said that Pillay had “allowed herself to be misused in misleading the public opinion by providing information based on allegations collected from 233 defectors.”

“How could defectors give positive testimonies on the Syrian government? Of course they will give negative testimonies against the Syrian government,” Jaafari said.

On November 27, the Arab League approved unprecedented sanctions against Syria, including a freeze on assets possessed by the Syrian government and an embargo on investments for projects in the country.

The resolution adopted by the AL appears to have increased the unity of Syrians. Figures show that during the past weeks, nearly 12 million people have demonstrated in support of President Bashar al-Assad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 15, 2011, 09:56:05 AM
Gunmen kill 27 people in southern Syria

Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:54PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/215845.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/215845.html)

Activists say at least 27 Syrian soldiers and security forces have been killed after they came under attack from armed groups in the south of the country, Press TV reports.

The gunmen reportedly ambushed a group of government forces in the Syrian province of Dara'a on Thursday.

A video posted on YouTube purportedly showed a group of armed men claiming responsibility for the ambush.

The attack is the latest one in an unrelenting bout of violence that has been plaguing Syria in the past months.

The unrest broke out in Mid-March with demonstrations held both against and in favor of President Bashar al-Assad.

The Syrian opposition accuses the Syrian government of a harsh clampdown against protesters and holds Damascus accountable for the killing of hundreds of people.

But the government blames “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” for the unrest, saying it is being orchestrated from abroad.

It argues that Syrian security forces have been given clear orders not to harm civilians and refers to the large number of soldiers, border guards and police personnel killed by unknown armed men.

The Syrian state TV broadcasting has been showing seized weapons caches and confessions by terrorists describing how they obtained arms from foreign sources.

The confessions prove that the recent developments in the country neighboring the Israeli regime are aimed at stoking rebellion in the strategic country and bringing to power a US and Israel-friendly government.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 15, 2011, 03:28:16 PM
Canada to evacuate citizens from troubled Syria

Date: Thu. Dec. 15 2011 5:37 PM ET
source: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20111215/canadian-citizens-syria-evacuation-111215/ (http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20111215/canadian-citizens-syria-evacuation-111215/)

CTVNews.ca Staff

The Canadian government has laid out its plans to get its citizens out of troubled Syria.

Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird encouraged Canadians still in Syria to get out while commercial means are still available.

Baird told CTV's Power Plan Thursday afternoon that Canadians in Syria should leave while they still can.

"The risks to our embassy folks are obvious," Baird said. "With respect to the Canadians that are there we might not be able to get them out. The airport is closed, Damascus is not on a port, so that obviously makes the means of getting them out tougher."

Baird and Minister of State Diane Ablonczy detailed the voluntary evacuation plan in a news conference on Thursday morning, following an escalation of violence in that country as its government tries to quell an ongoing uprising.

"We find it increasingly difficult to make air travel arrangements as the security situation continues to deteriorate," Baird said. He explained that the Canadian embassy in Damascus would "open an express lane" between now and Jan. 14 to help Canadians, their spouses and their children obtain the necessary documents in order to leave.

"If Canadians stay in Syria we cannot guarantee services at our embassy… will remain available," he said. "We strongly encourage Canadians in Syria to apply for travel documents... The time to leave Syria is now."

All normal Canadian visa requirements, including admissibility rules and fees, remain in place, said a release from the Department of Foreign Affairs.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has cracked down harshly on pro-democratic protesters, with 25 people killed in gun battles between soldiers and rebels on Wednesday alone.

Demonstrations that began in January have escalated throughout the year, leaving thousands of Syrians dead. Wednesday's clashes signal a shift in the demonstrators' tactics, as the formerly peaceful opposition appears to now be taking up arms.

The international community has long condemned the Syrian government's behaviour, with Canada first imposing sanctions on that country in May. Those restrictions were further tightened in October.

"These sanctions, in concert with those of our international partners, have isolated this regime," Baird said Thursday. "Their actions are completely and totally unacceptable.

"The writing on the wall could not be more clear. The Assad regime has lost all legitimacy."

Baird said that Canada would like to see the UN take tougher diplomatic measures in Syria.

"We'd like the Security Council to condemn the brutal death of 5,000 people at the Assad regime's hand and we'd like strong United Nations sanctions against this regime," he said.

Meanwhile, officials in Washington predict that the Assad regime's fall is not far off.

"Our view is that this regime is the equivalent of dead man walking," said the U.S. State Department's Frederic Hof.

Read more: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20111215/canadian-citizens-syria-evacuation-111215/#ixzz1geWI11Nf (http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20111215/canadian-citizens-syria-evacuation-111215/#ixzz1geWI11Nf)

LW - The only threat facing Canadians in Syria are Canadian jets hooked up with NATO. And of course, the Mossad/CSIS/MI6/CIA.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 16, 2011, 10:49:11 AM
‘NATO wants a simmering civil war in Syria – as a prelude’

Published: 16 December, 2011, 21:45
source: http://rt.com/news/nato-civil-war-syria-011/ (http://rt.com/news/nato-civil-war-syria-011/)


A young woman with her face painted with the Syrian flag shouts
during a demonsration against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad
in front of Syrian Consulate, following the Friday prayer on
December 16, 2011 in Istanbul (AFP Photo / BULENT KILIC)


Washington is ready to discuss Russia’s UN Security Council draft resolution on Syria, describing some provisions as however “unacceptable” and still not acknowledging that the anti-regime protesters are well-armed.

­What exactly the US and NATO countries consider to be “unacceptable” is the real question, believes Asia Times correspondent Pepe Escobar.

“Is it that the Syrian government cannot fight an armed insurgency in its own territory?” he ponders. “The Free Syrian Army are getting weapons smuggled from the Middle East to the borders [with Syria] in Turkey and in Jordan as well.”

Pepe Escobar says that the Free Syrian Army, which claims to have more than 25,000 members fighting to bring down President Assad, is in fact turning into a huge militia marshalling forces near Syria’s borders with Turkey and Jordan.

“This militia now is already involved in a sort of a pre-civil war at both borders with the help of NATO,” Escobar said. “What they want and what NATO wants is a simmering civil war as a prelude for something much tougher ahead, probably after the American elections in one year.”

Escobar believes that “the fog of pre-war” is already there, and says Russia is making an intelligent move in pushing forward a “pre-emptive resolution.”

“It condemns both sides and asks for a UN peacekeeping mission to solve the problem,” he said. “If there is a resolution in the UN, the first thing will be to send a UN peacekeeping mission, a fact-finding mission, to Syria.”

One of the reasons he believes that such a mission must be sent to Syria as soon as possible is because there are still no credible sources of information about what is really happening on the ground.

“The thing is we still do not know the role of these snipers that we see everywhere,” he explains. “In fact most of the civilian killings are by these snipers. And they even shoot children, this is true. But we do not know for sure if they are working for the Syrian army or Syrian intelligence, there is absolutely no evidence about it.”

“Look, we don’t know where these snipers come from,” Escobar cited people in Homs as saying. “They could be government, but they could be opportunists, and they could be mercenaries trying to incite civil war.”
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 20, 2011, 09:48:29 AM
Syrian opposition calls for foreign intervention

Published: 20 December, 2011, 10:49


Thick plume of smoke rising above an oil refinery, situated to the
west of the flashpoint city of Homs(AFP Photo / SANA)


Syria's opposition wants an Arab military intervention to “protect civilians from government security forces” – even after Damascus signed an Arab League protocol allowing observers to monitor a regional peace initiative to end months of bloodshed.

­The opposition dismissed the deal as a stalling tactic.

Syria has been increasingly isolated under sanctions from Arab states, the US and the EU over its crackdown on anti-government protesters.

But official Damascus says it is fighting extremist armed groups operating in the country.

In the embattled city of Homs, heavy gunfire forms a permanent soundtrack to everyday life. One cannot begin to fathom how, week after week and month after month, people in this city have endured the ongoing conflict.

But the continuing violence is taking its toll

“There are neighborhoods that are being suffocated, surrounded by armed groups,” one local woman explains. “There are many people who’ve been kidnapped. We’ve had enough. What did we do to deserve this?” she asks.

Homs has been described as a city on the brink of civil war and where some of Syria’s fiercest fighting has broken out.

Driving through the city streets, there are clear signs of conflict: bullet holes in window panes, anti-regime slogans on walls, and a heavy military presence.

RT’s crew were unable to visit neighborhoods where continuous intense fighting has rendered access too dangerous.

But in other areas, daily life struggles on, albeit against a backdrop of gunfire.

In central Homs, children still play unhindered and seemingly oblivious to the dangers, and this has been one of the major concerns for civilians living in the city.

The violence here is far more complex than a simple fight between opposition and regime. Here, deep-seated sectarian conflicts have reared their heads.

“From the very beginning in Homs it was sectarian, because there are equally large numbers of both sects, much more than in other cities,” a local man told RT.

A military funeral was held yesterday for five soldiers killed by what the government says is an increasingly armed militant movement.

On the same day, from the opposition, further harrowing accounts have emerged of civilian deaths around the country. It makes Syria’s decision to allow the Arab League to send observers all the more important.

Syria’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Maqdessy said, “This is a question for them, not for Syria.”

The decision has been branded “a ploy” by the SNC, the opposition outside Syria.  Meanwhile, however, the opposition inside the country has welcomed the move.

“We hope it’s going to be implemented on the ground as it is stated in the protocol,” a member of National Coalition Council Mahmoud Murai said. “And we remain completely against international intervention: it would lead the country to destruction.”

With a fractious opposition, rising death toll and with facts and information still hard to verify, the observers’ arrival in Syria will be an important step. But it is just one of many more that will need to be taken – and soon – to ensure that no more lives are lost.

LW - Obviously the 'opposition' is anything but nationalistic. You would think that this desire to call in foreign 'power' to solve your problems at home is so obviously treason that it would loom large in the media and a refrain for commentators.
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Post by: FrontierJustice on December 20, 2011, 03:17:06 PM
So-called 'Syrian opposition' calls for foreign intervention

This situation in Syria is sickening to witness. This 'opposition group' has no legitimate grass roots in Syria, no name, no legitimate representatives (just a bunch of clever media photo ops) and enough guns and intel to effectively ambush Syrian military units. Gee, is there any doubt that this yet another jewish-funded venture? It's like if a faction of Mexican drug cartels came into Texas, moved into all the neighborhoods, kidnapped and murdered local civilians, ambushed cops, hooked up with local criminals etc -- then claimed to be 'the American opposition to Washington' with all the jew newspapers of the world confirming it.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 20, 2011, 03:41:09 PM
It's like if a faction of Mexican drug cartels came into Texas, moved into all the neighborhoods, kidnapped and murdered local civilians, ambushed cops, hooked up with local criminals etc -- then claimed to be 'the American opposition to Washington' with all the jew newspapers of the world confirming it.

That's a good analogy... spot on actually and not too far from 'reality' considering who is supplying the Mexican cartels with weapons.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on December 20, 2011, 04:13:08 PM
Syria was a peacefull nation for hundreds of years. These killings are snipers that no one ever sees. The whole so called uprising is a Jewish orchestrated hoax
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrontierJustice on December 20, 2011, 04:51:04 PM
That's a good analogy... spot on actually and not too far from 'reality' considering who is supplying the Mexican cartels with weapons.

Yeah that's why the one reminded me of the other. What's happening in Syria is reminiscent of what went down in El Salvador in the 70s and 80s. The nationalists there and their ideology with its potential to spread had to be taken out in order for Jews to retain a foothold in South America, to keep their drug cartels and communism expanding, which they did. With Syria and Iran, Jews need them out of the way in order to finalize the securing of the Mideast oil fields, the expansion of Israel, and the integration of the general Mideast populations into Rothschild banking slavery.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: wag on December 20, 2011, 06:48:23 PM
Syria was a peacefull nation for hundreds of years. These killings are snipers that no one ever sees. The whole so called uprising is a Jewish orchestrated hoax

Jews want to secure all the land of the orginal civilizations.  There would be a lot of money in theme tourism.  The murder of millions would be worth it.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrontierJustice on December 20, 2011, 09:24:48 PM
Jews want to secure all the land of the orginal civilizations.  There would be a lot of money in theme tourism.  The murder of millions would be worth it.

It's no coincidence the jews hit Iraq (Sumeria), run Turkey and India (Cappadocia and Troy, the Indus Valley), are hitting Syria (Phoenicians), and plan to hit Iran (Aryans). All the earliest geographical locations of advanced Aryan civilizations outside of their indigenous Europe.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrontierJustice on December 20, 2011, 09:38:40 PM
Syria was a peacefull nation for hundreds of years. These killings are snipers that no one ever sees. The whole so called uprising is a Jewish orchestrated hoax

Besides the mideast leaders the Jews have already killed, Assad is to mideast leaders what Töben is to revisionists, what Judicial-Inc was to net truthtellers -- he's the only leader out there that I can see who is 100% for real. And so of course he must go.
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Post by: laconas on December 21, 2011, 01:40:02 AM
Yeah that's why the one reminded me of the other. What's happening in Syria is reminiscent of what went down in El Salvador in the 70s and 80s. The nationalists there and their ideology with its potential to spread had to be taken out in order for Jews to retain a foothold in South America, to keep their drug cartels and communism expanding, which they did. With Syria and Iran, Jews need them out of the way in order to finalize the securing of the Mideast oil fields, the expansion of Israel, and the integration of the general Mideast populations into Rothschild banking slavery.




Lori Berenson goes home for the holidays

Originally published: December 20, 2011 10:43 AM
http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/lori-berenson-goes-home-for-the-holidays-1.3401408
By Staff and wire reports 
Lori Berenson arrives at Newark Liberty International Airport


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Photo credit: AP | Lori Berenson arrives at Newark Liberty International Airport Tuesday morning with her son, Salvador Apari. (Dec. 20, 2011)

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Lori Berenson arrived home in Manhattan Tuesday following a flight from Peru, where she'd spent more than 15 years imprisoned for aiding terrorists in the 1990s.

Berenson, 42, was sentenced to 20 years in prison in 1996 for treason over her support of the Tupac Amaru rebel group. She was paroled in November 2010.

All she would say after getting out of a private car outside the East Side apartment where she grew up was, "I appreciate the interest, but I am not making any comments."

Berenson, whose flight from Lima, Peru, landed at Newark Liberty International Airport just after 7:30 a.m., is making her first visit to the United States since her arrest in 1995.

She was accompanied by her mother, Rhoda, her toddler son Salvador and a male relative when she stepped from a private car outside the building on East 25th Street.

Her mother simply said: "I'm very happy."

Earlier, Rhoda Berenson said she was "looking forward to the first holiday at home in a long, long time, and many relatives who haven't met Salvador are excited to see him."

A military court in Peru convicted Berenson of treason in 1996, sentencing her to life in prison for helping the rebel group rent a safe house where authorities seized a cache of weapons following a shootout.

But U.S. pressure after Berenson said she never joined the group prompted a civilian court trial, where she was convicted and sentenced to 20 years.

Berenson was paroled in November 2010, but, by law, she must remain in Peru until her full sentence lapses -- unless it is commuted by President Ollanta Humala.

Berenson was allowed to return to the United States for a visit, but has been ordered to return to Peru by Jan. 11.

Her father, Mark Berenson, told The Associated Press his daughter has every intention of returning to Peru.

Tupac Amaru raided the Japanese embassy in Peru in 1996 during a party and held 72 hostages for more than four months. A raid killed all the rebel hostage takers.

Berenson on Monday was accompanied in Lima by a U.S. Embassy worker. She told the AP she will return.

With Maria Alvarez, John Valenti and AP
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 21, 2011, 01:43:29 AM
Syria was a peacefull nation for hundreds of years. These killings are snipers that no one ever sees. The whole so called uprising is a Jewish orchestrated hoax

It's not easy for the Jews, and it's always the children that suffer.

http://www.rfc.org/ourstory
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on December 21, 2011, 07:31:16 AM
Ethyl Rosenberg, Laconas'  hero gets the chair

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Oh Boo Hoo




It's not easy for the Jews, and it's always the children that suffer.

http://www.rfc.org/ourstory
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 21, 2011, 10:53:23 AM
Majority of Syrians support al-Assad

Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:40PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217030.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217030.html)

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Interview with Mohsen Saleh, Professor at Lebanese University

Tens of thousands of Syrians have rallied in support of President Bashar al-Assad government in the capital Damascus, chanting slogans in favor of his planned reforms.

Figures show that during the past weeks, plenty of pro-Assad rallies have taken place in cities across Syria.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in favor of President Bashar al-Assad. Hundreds of people, including security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.

While the West and the Syrian opposition accuse the government of the killings, Damascus blames ''outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups'' for the unrest that erupted in mid-March, insisting that it is being orchestrated from abroad.

Press TV has conducted an interview with Mohsen Saleh, Professor at Lebanese University, to share his opinion on this issue.

Following is a transcript of the interview:

Press TV: Tell us more about these recent pro-Assad demonstrations that we are seeing right now in Damascus.

Saleh: Of course the Arabs and the Americans and the Europeans should know that the majority of the Syrians are pro Bashar al-Assad and pro his regime and his reforms and his suggestions to reunite the feelings and emotions of the nationality of the Syrians.

And of course many demonstrations went into the stage in order to express their feelings and to express their demand for freedom and reforms according to the national law and reforms suggested by the parliament and by the leadership of Syria.

They do not want any foreign intervention, whether from the Arab League or from the [Persian] Gulf Council or from the United Nations. The Syrians have been, of course liking and having no problem with the policies specially the national policies of Bashar al-Assad in terms of the conflicts with the Israelis and with the Americans and of course with the people who are having some treaties with the Americans specially those who are directed from some youths in France specially the relationship with Burhan Ghalioun and other parts of what so called National Council, the Syrian National Council.

These people who go to the street, they say firmly that they want Syria under the Syrian umbrella and the Syrian policies and the Syrian nationality and of course they are going to do many demonstrations like this in order to say one thing- Syria is for the Syrians not for the people who are coming from outside like Burhan Ghalioun and others who are living all their life outside and now they are trying to give orders to the Syrians. Syrians are free under this regime policy.

Press TV: Mr. Saleh, earlier in our broadcast we had news of an Italian military plane which is reported it visited Lebanon to afloat supplies for the Syrian opposition. Give us your views on the agenda of how these forms are foreign intervention in Syria.

Saleh: Well I say they say to do anything against the Syrian regime and the Syrian people and the stability of Syria. They are some terrorist groups who have been trying to unsettle the situation in Syria but they couldn't do anything whether... on the borders of Lebanon or...on the borders of Jordan or from the borders of Turkey.

Fortunately, the Syrian army is united behind its leadership and they could really confront all these terrorist groups and of course to protect the Syrians from all of these gangs who have been ordered, financed of course by these people whether the French or from the [Persian] Gulf States or from the Americans.

They said obviously that they want to support these specially the Americans. They told them not to disarm themselves and to the country. Will the American or Europeans do the same thing with their gangs? I will say yes, that is why the regime in Syria is stable, powerful and could really have all the factions and the classes in the Syrian society under the national law. I would say the national law of Syria, not the law of people who want to enforce these policies on the Syrian regime or the Syrians.

Some gangs I guess would not influence the situation there, some people in Lebanon or in Turkey or in Jordan, they will regret these interventions in the Syrian internal policies and they will really pay a lot for this because Syria is going to be stable under this regime and under the policies in terms of the relationship with Iran, with the resistance, with Palestine and with Iraq and with the access of freedom in this region.

Press TV: Professor Saleh, those rallying in support of the government of Bashar al-Assad have also been rallying against the Arab League sanctions against Syria.

Now over the week end the Arab league also threatened to take Syria to the United Nations Security Council of the unrest that is been taking place since mid March. Give us your thoughts about the Arab League stance as a recent.

Saleh: As you know the Arab League is an echo of the American orders of some regimes in the region. And of course they do not want to do anything against the American policies in this region. That is why they are conspiring against Syria, against the resistance, against Palestine, against even themselves.

They do not respect themselves. They want ... give them orders whether in the [Persian] Gulf or in some parts of Lebanon opposition parties who really want to do a service for the American policies in the region, for the sake of Israel not for the sake of the Arabism what so called Arabism.

I guess the Arab League failed to do anything good for the Arabs. That is why they are really now accompany, a kind of accompany of Al Jazeerah and Al Arabiya doing contracts with the Americans to save themselves from the revolution. They say that they are with the revolution.

We hear the speeches only, words, empty words that they are with the Egyptian revolution or with the Yemen revolution or the Tunisians. Once it reaches to Bahrain or to Syria, in Bahrain they are with the regime...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 21, 2011, 11:45:48 AM
Russian navy in Syria: Thorn in US side

Published: 21 December, 2011, 12:56
source: http://rt.com/news/russian-syria-opposition-usa-319/ (http://rt.com/news/russian-syria-opposition-usa-319/)


The aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" (RIA Novosti / Sergey Eshenko)

The US-based intelligence-gathering firm Stratfor says most of the claims by the Syrian opposition about the seriousness of the country's crisis are untrue. The company insists protesters are exaggerating, to win support from powers like the US.

­Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, a former Reagan administration official, told RT he believes Washington is doing more than simply backing the rebels diplomatically.

“The United States is bold in stirring up the opposition and in arming it. They used the cover of the Arab Spring and Arab protests as they did in Libya,” he said. “These are not spontaneous protests, and certainly in an authoritarian state like Syria you wouldn’t find people in opposition able to readily supply themselves with arms, with military weapons.”

Besides, Roberts continued, it makes no sense for ordinary Syrians to create an opportunity for the country to be destroyed like Libya, Iraq, or Afghanistan.

“What’s involved here is that the Russians have a naval base in Syria, and the Americans don’t want a Russian naval presence in the Mediterranean. And, just as in Libya, the problem was the Chinese oil investments. If Syria goes, Iran is in the target sites, and Lebanon,” he concluded.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 21, 2011, 11:49:46 AM
Nuke carrier leads US strike force into Syrian waters

Published: 25 November, 2011, 18:34
Edited: 25 November, 2011, 22:34
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-intervention-us-warship-229/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-intervention-us-warship-229/)


USS George H.W. Bush. (AFP Photo/US Navy)

Nuclear aircraft carrier USS George HW Bush has reportedly anchored off Syria. As an Arab League deadline to allow observers into the country passes with no response from Damascus, the possibility of intervention in Syria seems to be growing.

The George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group along with additional naval vessels are to remain in the Mediterranean to conducting maritime security operations and support missions as part of Operations Enduring Freedom and New Dawn.The US 6th Fleet is also patrolling the area, Interfax news agency reports.

Meanwhile, America and Turkey are urging their citizens to leave Syria. The US released a statement on Wednesday urging American citizens to “depart immediately while commercial transportation is available.”

Against this backdrop, the prospect of humanitarian intervention in Syria no longer looks like such an impossible scenario. And pressure is growing on the issue.

Paris is urging the creation of a secure zone to protect civilians “that would allow aid groups and observers into Syria” and is seeking support from the US, UN and the Arab League. French foreign minister Alain Juppé said he was speaking with partners in the United Nations, US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and the Arab League on the issue. However the EU stopped short of endorsing a French proposal for EU-backed humanitarian corridors on Thursday, acknowledging, however, that protection of civilians in Syria remains a top priority.

The imposition of a no-fly zone over Syria by the Arab League with US logistical support, is also being discussed, according to the Jordan-based Al Bawaba news website. A strong sense of déjà vu prevails, with the specter of a Libyan scenario repeating itself.

Rumors about the no-fly zone over Syria came in the wake of Tuesday’s United Nations General Assembly resolution which condemned human rights abuses by the Syrian regime, including the killing, arbitrary imprisonment and torture of civilians.

Meanwhile, an Arab League deadline for Syria to allow an observer mission into the country or suffer crippling sanctions passed on Friday without a response from Damascus, a League source told AFP.

"Until now, there has been no response from the Syrian government," the source said after the 1 pm (1100 GMT) deadline. Damascus has been given until the end of the day to respond, if it is to avoid sanctions.

Earlier this month Russia, the most powerful opponent of the West's push for “international intervention,” also anchored its warships in the Syrian port of Tartus. According to unconfirmed reports, the warships were carrying technical advisors who will help Syria set up and run advanced S-300 missiles supplied by Russia. However, there is no official confirmation that the S-300 missiles have actually been delivered to Syria by any side.

Meanwhile, Moscow has announced it opposes a military scenario for resolving the Syrian problem and the use of a human rights argument as an excuse for foreign intervention in the affairs of a sovereign state. Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich said that “under no circumstances must human rights issues be used as a pretext for interfering in the internal affairs of a state."

Moscow has also abstained from voting on the resolution by the UN General Assembly Human Rights Committee thanks to "the humanitarian focus of the draft's text," said Lukashevich.

Patrick Henningsen, a political analyst from the US-based Infowars.Com online magazine, believes that the escalation of tensions over Syria between the world’s major powers may lead to a new chilling in world politics.

“I think we are going to see a new Cold War emerge in the next two years, and we are seeing the initial steps of that new Cold War right now,” he told RT.

“If the Western powers think they are going to get away with a no-fly zone in Syria, this is a very different prospect than Libya. This will be the first time, in Syria, and also, if you look forward – with Iran, that the West, actually, is engaging a country that has the ability to fight back,” Henningsen said referring to Russia’s close military co-operation with the two countries, as well as rumors of S-300 installations having been supplied from Moscow.

Experts say that even the armed opponents of Bashar al-Assad’s regime would strongly oppose any interference from outside.

“Even among the opponents of the ugly Assad regime, many in Syria will actually not welcome an intervention by Western forces,” even if it comes in the shape of fellow-Muslims in the Turkish army, predicts Dr. Pierre Guerlain, a professor of political science at Paris West University.

And Dr Marcus Papadopoulos, an analyst from Britain's 'Politics First' online magazine, told RT that any hopes of bringing peace to the region by toppling the current Syrian government are delusional.

"I can't see how they can possibly believe that peace will come to the Middle East with president Assad falling, I mean if we have a look at some of the people that the Syrian government is fighting against at the moment, they're actually armed militants, they're criminal gangs, and many of these armed militants have links to religious extremism, so once again, I think it's a reckless, negligence, short-sighted approach that the West is taking."

Earlier this month, Arab League foreign ministers suspended Syria in response to its violent suppression of anti-government rallies.

An uprising against the rule of President Bashar al-Assad started eight months ago. Since then, an estimated 3,500 people have died in clashes with government forces.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 21, 2011, 01:08:49 PM
Iranian technicians kidnapped in Syria

Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:30PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/216945.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/216945.html)

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Eight technicians, including five Iranian electrical engineers, have been reportedly kidnapped by unknown armed gunmen in the restive Syrian city of Homs.

In a statement issued by Iran's Embassy in Damascus, it was confirmed that the group of engineers was abducted en route to the 450-MW power plant they were involved in building in Homs at 6:30 a.m. local time.

The embassy statement further said that it is closely working with relevant Syrian authorities and organizations to determine the fate of the kidnapped Iranian nationals.

On December 15, Iran's Minister of Road and Urban Development Ali Nikzad announced the country's willingness to help fulfill the economic needs of Syria amid the US-led Western economic pressure on Damascus.

Homs has been the scene of recent unrest in Syria that originated in mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in favor of President Bashar al-Assad.

While the West and the Syrian opposition accuse the government of violence, Damascus blames ''outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups'' for the unrest that erupted in mid-March, insisting that it is being orchestrated from abroad.

In interviews with Israeli news outlets over the past few months, the Syrian opposition members have clearly expressed their vision for the future of Syria and their interest in establishing ties with the Tel Aviv regime.

Armed gangs have recently kidnapped many Syrian civilians and security forces in the city.
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Post by: jacob gold on December 21, 2011, 03:03:11 PM
Quote
Nuclear aircraft carrier USS George HW Bush has reportedly anchored off Syria. As an Arab League deadline to allow observers into the country passes with no response from Damascus, the possibility of intervention in Syria seems to be growing.


Syria is one of the last independent countries. Looks like the Jews are planning something big.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrontierJustice on December 21, 2011, 04:20:10 PM
Eight technicians, including five Iranian electrical engineers, have been reportedly kidnapped by unknown armed gunmen in the restive Syrian city of Homs.

These 'unknown armed gunmen' would need serious deep intel to carry out these types of operations, to know who and where their targets are. America falls further into total shame as our government plays these faceless war games alongside the faceless Jews, angainst a country that has always shown its face. There are faces in our government -- where are the activists? The silence is deafening.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrontierJustice on December 21, 2011, 04:24:20 PM
Lori Berenson goes home for the holidays

Another communist jew straight out of the Hamptons
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 21, 2011, 04:53:14 PM

Syria is one of the last independent countries. Looks like the Jews are planning something big.

Syria, the land route from the Mediterranean to Iraq and on to Iran.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on December 21, 2011, 07:20:04 PM
Nuke carrier leads US strike force into Syrian waters

I've been reading Salvador Astucia's book, Opium Lords, (about Israel, JFK etc) & he notes that LBJ sent an aircraft carrier to park next to Egypt.  Nasser considered this a grave insult (esp in the context of LBJ's other shabby treatment of Egypt).  So Astucia shows how that was a big step to creating Israel's desired 6-Day War.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 21, 2011, 07:55:56 PM
Another communist jew straight out of the Hamptons

She's only on parole, she promised to go back and report to her probation officer.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 21, 2011, 07:59:05 PM
Syria, the land route from the Mediterranean to Iraq and on to Iran.

I wonder if they ever thought about building a pipeline from Iraq, through Syria, to the Mediterranean?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 21, 2011, 09:42:37 PM
I wonder if they ever thought about building a pipeline from Iraq, through Syria, to the Mediterranean?

That would miss Israhel.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrontierJustice on December 22, 2011, 06:07:31 PM
She's only on parole, she promised to go back and report to her probation officer.

New Mexico sounds about right.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on December 23, 2011, 06:14:26 AM
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Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on December 23, 2011, 07:28:31 AM

Good Map! It all fits. The promised land - ''Between the Nile and the Euphrates!'' 
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 24, 2011, 01:39:42 PM
US, Israel conspiring against Syria

Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:30PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217545.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217545.html)

Interview with Mohsen Saleh, political analyst

Syria has accused US and Israel of involvement in Friday's terrorist attacks in the capital Damascus that killed scores of people.

The blasts targeted the main headquarters of the General Intelligence Agency and a branch of the military intelligence.

Thousands of Syrians had on Saturday held a funeral ceremony for the victims of the terror attacks.
While mourning the dead, they also condemned the attacks and chanted slogans in favor of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Press TV has conducted an interview with Mohsen Saleh, political analyst, to share his opinion on this issue.

Following is a transcript of the interview:

Press TV: Syria's main party accuses Israel and the US of involvement in the attacks. Why would they want to target Damascus? What do you think that they would gain from that?

Saleh: As we know and everybody knows that United States and its Israeli ally are behind most of these problems in Syria and in the region or even in Palestine, of course in Lebanon and I guess the only winner of this situation, destabilization of Syria is the United States and Israel.

That is why the only reason to have such problem in Syria and these declarations and statements from Syria accusing Israel and the United States, I guess are true in most of them because as we know even if some groups who are Salafis or Wahabis, they have been directed by Israeli and the Americans and they have the only way to do this instability in Syria by making these explosions specially in Damascus, since Damascus did not move or did not go behind these people who are in Daraa or in Talkalakh or some groups even in Turkey or in somewhere else.

That is why Syrians and even the rationale reason for such accusation I guess would be America and Israel since they are the only players in the region.

Press TV: Now Mr. Saleh, what do you see as the key now being for the government in Damascus in order to keep the unity that they have in the country to protect themselves for what is going on? What do you think the answer is?

Saleh: Well as we know the crisis in Syria has been for nine months and the regime and the people and the army have been united behind the president and the government and the law in Syria and I guess they have been doing fine.

But these heavy attacks, whether as I mentioned in some areas in the borders of Turkey or the borders of Lebanon or these things or even the political moves of the Americans in the international Security Council and all these moves show us that we have two parties- the Syrian party and the resistance and the people who have been firmly standing, confronting the Americans and the Israelis and of course the Israelis and the Western allies and some of the agents here in the Arab world like Qatar and of course the Arab League; most of its figures specially the Secretary General in the Arab League also it seems that he is in this conspiracy against Syria.

And now the regime is playing fine and since the army is doing with and united behind the people, protecting the people all over the places especially in the places as I mentioned on the Turkey borders, I guess the situation is going fine and even the Arab observers, they should do something good to Syria if they are keen to protect the borders and unity of the Syrian people since Syria is an Arab country, if they really confess that.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 24, 2011, 02:26:25 PM

Syria is going to be very bloody with Russia on one side, and the Jews on other, both supplying weapons. This might be the first proxy war since the Soviet Union fell apart. The last proxy war was Afghanistan.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: EyeBelieve on December 24, 2011, 09:10:16 PM
Syria is going to be very bloody with Russia on one side, and the Jews on other, both supplying weapons. This might be the first proxy war since the Soviet Union fell apart. The last proxy war was Afghanistan.

I was reading Salvador Astucia's Opium Lords book (on JFKMontreal.com):  during the '67 war supposedly Russian pilots actually flew some of Egypt's planes.  Also I once talked with a Vietnam vet who claimed he saw Russian troops in hand-to-hand fighting with South Viet soldiers.  Anyway, London/DC/Tel Aviv is playing hardball with Syria.  Nobody with a lick of sense would believe big terror bombing is just "protesters".
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 24, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
I was reading Salvador Astucia's Opium Lords book (on JFKMontreal.com):  during the '67 war supposedly Russian pilots actually flew some of Egypt's planes.  Also I once talked with a Vietnam vet who claimed he saw Russian troops in hand-to-hand fighting with South Viet soldiers.  Anyway, London/DC/Tel Aviv is playing hardball with Syria.  Nobody with a lick of sense would believe big terror bombing is just "protesters".

You'd think so, but they've been showing protestors in Syria with guns for and months now and nobody has said, hey, wait a minute.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 26, 2011, 08:36:02 AM
From Tripoli to Damascus: Arab wild geese take wing

Published: 26 December, 2011, 09:43
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-libya-gunmen-mercenaries-643/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-libya-gunmen-mercenaries-643/)



Libya’s former rebels are urging Syrians to follow their revolutionary path. Hundreds of mercenaries, some of them former terrorists, are ready to take up arms again to help overthrow President Assad.

In less than three months, Libyan rebels have gone from being hailed as liberators to being condemned as occupiers, reports RT’s Oksana Boyko. People in the capital, Tripoli, rally almost every week, calling on the armed militia to leave.

For some of Libya’s young men, hooked on adrenaline and unwilling to part with their rifles, Syria seems like the next logical destination.

“We’re all ready to join the Syrian revolution and, with the help of Allah, we’ll make sure that what happened in Libya repeats itself,” one young rebel told RT.

Portraits of Che Guevara are now ubiquitous on the streets of Tripoli, with some rebels even styling themselves to resemble the famous revolutionary. 

“With the help of Allah, we can all be like Che Guevara, fighting for peace and freedom around the world,” another rebel said.

And it seems that Che Guevara’s idea of exporting revolutions is being reborn in the Middle East. The Arab Spring has created a buoyant market for soldiers of fortune, who now appear to be moving from one revolution to another. Some are motivated by personal gain, some by conviction, but for others it's about the adventure. They fight for their own version of freedom, and for now at least, it’s the freedom to live by the gun.

One man’s terrorist could easily be another man’s freedom fighter but, for the United States, it’s now two in one. Abdelhakim Belhadj, one of the leaders of the Tripoli militia, was once on the CIA’s most-wanted list. Today, he is the face of democratic Libya who, according to RT’s sources, led a group of several hundred Libyan rebels to Syria just last month.

The new Libyan authorities are all too eager to wave goodbye to the unruly gunmen who helped them get into power. And it seems the new ruling authority in the North African country is encouraging the export of its warrior heroes to another battle front.

“We want to help to support the Syrian people, because they are facing the same situation as we faced before,” explains Mohamed Alhuraizi of the Libyan National Transitional Council. “We appreciated the help that came to the Libyan people, and if we could provide the Syrian people with any help to get their freedom, I think we should do it,” he says.

The use of soldiers of fortune is hardly new in this troubled region. Middle Eastern rulers used them for centuries as safeguards against their own populations. Now it now looks like the story of the region’s mercenaries is continuing in a new – and no less bloody – chapter.

LW - I'm sure they'll find employment soon enough. The Treasury dept printing presses are a bit bogged down what with Christmas for Bankers and all.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 26, 2011, 08:40:56 AM
Bomb voyage: 600 Libyans ‘already fighting in Syria’

Published: 29 November, 2011, 15:57
source: http://rt.com/news/libya-syria-fighters-smuggled-475/ (http://rt.com/news/libya-syria-fighters-smuggled-475/)

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Libyan National Transitional Council fighters (AFP Photo / JOSEPH EID)

The Libyan government apparently wants to share its successful experience of overthrowing the Gaddafi regime with like-minded Syrians. It has sent 600 of its troops to support local militants against the Assad regime, according to media reports.

The fighters have joined the Free Syria Army, the militant group carrying out attacks on government forces in Syria, reports the Egyptian news website Al-Ray Al-Arabi citing its sources. The report says the troops entered Syria through Turkish territory.

The alleged incursion happened with the consent of the chairman of the Libyan National Transitional Council (NTC) Mustafa Abdul Jalil. The NTC allegedly welcomed volunteers to join the surge.

Last Friday British media reported a secret meeting between NTC envoys and Syrian rebels had been held in Istanbul. The Libyan governing body reportedly pledged to supply arms, money and fighters to the Syrians.

Bashar Assad’s government has repeatedly accused foreign forces of smuggling armed groups and weapons into Syria and thus fueling the ongoing violence.

In mid-October the Libyan NTC was the first government to recognize the rebel Syrian National Council as the legitimate representatives of the Syrian people.

The Libyan population is in possession of many weapons, which they received during the civil war by plundering military depots, through smuggling or as aid from NATO members and countries like Qatar, which took part in the ousting of Muammar Gaddafi. The NTC has difficulties in disarming the ex-rebels, who want to keep their firearms, either for personal protection or as means to make their living.

In November, the Libyan capital, Tripoli, saw a mass protest by the rebels, who demanded that the NTC pay their wages. Some even threatened to overthrow the new government the way they did with the previous one, unless their demands are met.

Funneling armed, underemployed and eager-to-fight youngsters to another country could be a convenient move for the NTC. The Syrian government, however, is likely to see them as mercenaries, which NATO member Turkey allowed into their country as an alternative to a full-scale military campaign, which is impossible without the sanction of the United Nations Security Council.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 28, 2011, 03:06:22 PM
Qatar builds up anti-Syria Wahhabi army

Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:3PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/218149.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/218149.html)

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Abdel Hakim Belhaj is appointed for the anti-Syria mission in Turkey.

Qatar has built up a strong army of hundreds of Wahhabi forces to help overthrow Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, a new report has revealed.

The forces known as the Free Syrian Army, have 20,000 fighters, and are armed and funded by Qatar, DEBKAfile reported.

The Doha-funded army has been mobilized in the form of military battalions and brigades in bases in Syria's northern neighbor, Turkey.

The measure comes after Qatar was also involved in the ousting of former Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, according to the report.

The Qatari and Saudi rulers approved the program for the Qatari chief of staff Major General Hamas Ali al-Attiya to join the anti-Assad army for rapid deployment on the Turkish-Syrian border.

According to the report, so far a total number of 2,500 troops have been recruited. The hard core is made up of 1,000 members of the Islamic Fighting Group in Libya, which fought Gaddafi, and 1,000 operatives of the Ansar al-Sunna, the Iraqi Islamists that reportedly carried out 15 coordinated bomb attacks in Baghdad last Thursday.

Qatar has airlifted the 2,500 troops from Libya and Iraq to the southern Turkish town of Antakya in the border province of Hatay.

The top commander of the anti-Syria mission headquartered in Antakya is Abdel Hakim Belhaj, whose militia seized control of the Libyan capital Tripoli in August.

Qatari officers have set up communication links between the Libyan and Iraqi camps and they are coordinating their operations with the Free Syrian Army since last week.

The Turkish military and its intelligence services are observing the military activities, but they are not interfering.

The Wahhabi army, funded by Qatar and Saudi Arabia, is silently backed by the US and NATO members, with Turkey in the forefront of this support group.

Syria has been experiencing deadly unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Assad's government.

Damascus blames "outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups" for the unrest, maintaining that it is being orchestrated from abroad.

LW - Mercenaries... another national export.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 29, 2011, 11:56:57 AM
US seeks options for Syria intervention

Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:55PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/218384.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/218384.html)

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US President Barack Obama (R) attends a National Security Council meeting. (File photo)

The United States has instructed the National Security Council to begin seeking options for Washington's intervention in Syria, especially through the Syrian opposition.

The options for US interference include what American officials have called the “unlikely” option of imposing a no-fly zone over the Arab country.

The process led by US National Security Council Director Steve Simon is expected to involve top members of the State, Defense and Treasury Departments and focus on ways to “aid” the Syrian opposition.

Other possibilities include providing “humanitarian aid” to rebel forces and establishing a “safe zone” inside Syrian territory, presumably through military means, near the Turkish border.

Establishing a no-fly zone over parts of Syria would likely involve large-scale attacks on the Syrian air defense and military command-and-control systems.

The possible resort to military force is believed to indicate the futility of a new round of sanctions the US has slapped against Damascus.

Many people, including a large number of security forces, have been killed in months of deadly unrest across Syria. The unrelenting bout of violence erupted when protests were held against and in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government.

The Syrian opposition accuses the government of cracking down on anti-government protests. But Damascus blames the ongoing unrest on foreign-backed armed gangs, arguing that army and security personnel have been given clear orders not to harm civilians.

On Wednesday, the head of an Arab League (AL) delegation investigating the unrest in Syria described the situation in the crisis-hit city of Homs as ''reassuring''.

"There were some places where the situation was not good. But there wasn't anything frightening, at least while we were there. Things were calm and there were no clashes," Sudanese General Mohamed Ahmed Mustafa al-Dabi said.

Dabi's remarks disappointed a number of Western countries, who were expecting an anti-Syria report from the AL delegation.

LW - this they have time for... inciting foreign wars while at home the economy has tanked, unemployment is endemic, our sustenance is being eaten out by bureaucrats and on and on. Meanwhile shoeshine boy has improved his golf score.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on December 29, 2011, 12:07:32 PM

It's probably a not very well kept secret that they're already intervening in Syria. It's pieces like this that make me suspicious of PressTV.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 29, 2011, 05:07:20 PM
It's probably a not very well kept secret that they're already intervening in Syria. It's pieces like this that make me suspicious of PressTV.

Smoke & mirrors. Press TV doesn't always get it right, same paradigms going on there I would think. In any case this is more chest beating. I don't think they have it all going for Syria as much as they may have planned.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrontierJustice on December 30, 2011, 12:23:04 AM
It's probably a not very well kept secret that they're already intervening in Syria. It's pieces like this that make me suspicious of PressTV.

PressTV is like RT: 90% unimportant truth, 10% important lies. The jews imbed themselves well.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on December 31, 2011, 04:03:46 PM
Syria: One-eyed quest for democracy

Published: 31 December, 2011, 00:43
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-protests-opposition-observers-047/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-protests-opposition-observers-047/)


Syria, Homs: An image grab taken from a video shows a large demonstration
in the flashpoint central Syrian city of Homs, on December 27, 2011. (AFP Photo / STR)


The first Arab League accounts of what is going on in Syria have been met with both widespread disbelief and discontent. Experts say the opposition only wants to hear what falls in its version of the events.

­The reports from Syria have been very controversial, with human rights activists claiming fresh casualties and Arab League observers reporting that nothing too severe happening in the country.

Activists say that over a hundred people have been killed by security forces since Tuesday when the Arab observers began their fact-finding mission in Syria's flashpoints.

On Friday, mass marches were held across Syria amid fresh reports of violent crackdowns against protesters. The anti-regime choir was joined by those who are dissatisfied with the Arab League observations in the country.

The opposition is accusing the observers of aligning with the Syrian regime, but political analyst Kamel Wazne says the reason for that is that the opposition wants “to hear one thing and nothing else.”

He also sees the United States behind the whole propaganda war in Syria. “They (the United States) don`t want to see a settlement in what is taking place in Syria and they are instigating things in the media,” he explained.

“Somebody in the West, in the United States, decided they don`t want the regime of Bashar Assad and they want to topple the regime,” he added.

Another journalist Ramzy Baroud also thinks the United States is involved in the Syrian conflict, but the real concern is that “we do not know what the Americans are cooking right now.”

“Obviously they are thinking of a much greater political context than Syria, they are thinking Iran, they are thinking of the stability of Iraq in post-American withdrawal and they are also – and most importantly – thinking Israel.”

“Americans are worried about Israeli security,” he said, adding that they have “very little concern about democracy or human rights anywhere else in the Middle East.”

LW -
“Somebody in the West, in the United States, decided they don`t want the regime of Bashar Assad and they want to topple the regime,” he added. Let's not waffle... the Zionists in America and outside of it want a war against Syria. The list of names begins begins there.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 02, 2012, 08:07:34 AM
Britain, allies breed violence in Syria

Mon Jan 2, 2012 2:35PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/218961.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/218961.html)

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Britain and its NATO allies have launched a propaganda campaign based on blatant lies by alleged human rights activists and a network of duplicity and deception to ignite a war on Syria.

The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which has been the main source of these blatant lies, receives all its reports via phone and YouTube videos from inside Syria, none of which could be verified or authenticated independently or officially, it has been revealed.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is also working in close coordination with both US-funded NGOs and British Foreign Secretary William Hague.

As far as the UN Human Right Council's report about the situation in Syria is concerned, it has recently been revealed that the report entitled Syrian “crimes against humanity” was actually co-authored by Karen Koning AbuZayd, a director of the US Washington-based corporate think-tank, 'Middle East Policy Council', that includes Exxon men, CIA agents, US military and government representatives, and even the president of the US-Qatar Business Council, which includes amongst its membership, Al-Jazeera, Chevron, Exxon, munitions manufacturer Raytheon, and Boeing.

The UN report itself contained no verifiable evidence, but rather hearsay accounts recorded in Geneva by alleged "victims" "witnesses," and "defectors," put forth by "all interested persons and organizations." In other words, the UN report was an open invitation for Syria's enemies to paint whatever image of the ruling government they pleased.

While critics claim this is due to the Syrian government's lack of cooperation with the UN, it is more likely that the UN itself, with a proven track record of doing so in Iraq, the Ivory Coast, and most recently Libya, is merely complicit in providing "window dressing" for Wall Street and London's otherwise naked military conquests.

Now, the so-called “evidence” from Syria has turned out to be a complete fraud, derived by opposition “witnesses” and compiled by a corporate D.C. think-tank director into a UN "human rights report."

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights serves as the exclusive source of those "reports" coming out of Syria despite the fact that it is actually, entirely based in London.

While it is verified that the NGOs it works in tandem with are U.S-funded, the Observatory itself fails to publish where its money comes from or the backgrounds of those that constitute its membership.

Meanwhile, it has already been confirmed that NATO-backed Libyan militias are on their way to Syria to oversee the "Free Syria Army," led by Abdul Belhaj.

Mounting evidence suggests that NATO and its proxies are behind the unrest and increasing violence in Syria, while London-based NGOs like the Observatory disingenuously spin responsibility back onto the Syrian government as part of a malicious hoax aimed at triggering the same genocide and destruction that delivered Libyan into the hands of global corporate-fascism.

After months of denying that the Syrian opposition was armed, the Wall Street-funded think-tank Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) now openly says that not only the “protesters” are armed, but there is a resistance army of 15,000.

It also has already been revealed that weapons are freely flowing over Syrian borders from foreign supporters including Turkey, the Israeli regime and even as far as Libya.

The CFR has, in its report, explored the options available to NATO for facilitating "regime change" in Syria including the use of "overhead surveillance assets, logistical enablers, peacekeepers, armed drones, combat aircraft, ground troops, and smuggled weapons."
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: AngelOfLight on January 05, 2012, 10:12:01 AM
Syrian demonstrators stage fake massacre
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b5_1325559090

Title: Massive bomb kills 30 in Syria - Israel denies all knowledge
Post by: jacob gold on January 06, 2012, 08:12:05 AM
Deadly Suicide Bombing Rocks Syrian Capital

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Dozens of people were killed and injured in the Syrian capital Damascus today when a suicide bomber detonated his explosives belt next to a police bus that had stopped at a traffic light,  the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency reported.

It said 25 people were killed and 46 injured. The blast came  just two weeks after a pair of suicide bombings outside government security buildings killed 44.

There was no claim of responsibility for the attack, but the government of President Bashar al-Assad blamed it on terrorists.State television broadcast grisly images of the aftermath of what it called a “powerful explosion. The pictures included shots of bloodied limbs as well as windows of vehicles and buildings blown out.

A resident told ABC News the site under a bridge is a well-known staging ground for security forces in the Midan District where there have been regular protests since the uprising began in March. The spot is close to several mosques where protests would start, making it easy for the forces to clamp down quickly.

“It appears a suicide bomber blew himself up close to two or three mini buses and one larger one that were carrying police men and other members of the security forces,” the Guardian’s Ian Black reported from Damascus.

“People are very angry. The scene is pretty grim,” he said. “There are pools of blood on the pavement. The remains of the suicide bomber are still there and can be seen. It is pretty terrible sight.”

Many opposition activists immediately accused the Assad regime of staging the bombing themselves to justify the accusations of terrorism and armed gangs they have leveled repeatedly.

SANA reported that most of those killed and injured were civilians, though the breakdown was unclear. The security forces are known for deputizing civilians, commonly referred to in Arabic as “shabiha,” translated as “thugs.”

On Dec. 23, two suicide bombers hit the State Security Directorate and another Security Branch in Damascus. It was the biggest attack in the capital since March.

Until recently, Damascus has been void of the violence seen elsewhere in the country with few outward signs of the conflict.

Today’s attack comes as pro-democracy activists and the leader of the opposition Free Syrian Army call on the Arab League to end their observer mission in Syria and admit it failed to stem the violence that the United Nations says has left more than 5,000 people dead.

“We hope they will announce that their mission was a failure,” Colonel Riad al As-ad told Agence France-Presse. “We call on the Arab League to step aside and let the United Nations take over responsibility as it is more apt to find solutions.”

The Arab League is convening an emergency meeting on Sunday to discuss the situation.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/01/deadly-suicide-bombing-rocks-syrian-capital/




Jacob Gold Comments

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The  damage is too extensive, so a good guess is that it was a car bomb. Now as to the 'WHO' orchestrated it - obviously it was Israel
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 06, 2012, 10:45:09 AM
Suicide attack kills and wounds dozens in Damascus

Published: 06 January, 2012, 14:29
Edited: 06 January, 2012, 23:02
source: http://rt.com/news/suicide-terror-damascus-blast-291/ (http://rt.com/news/suicide-terror-damascus-blast-291/)


A handout picture from the official Syrian News Agency (SANA)
shows onlookers gathering on January 6, 2012 at the site of a powerful
explosion in the Midan neighbourhood in the heart of the capital Damascus
(AFP Photo / HO / SANA)


A suicide bomb attack has hit the central Damascus neighborhood of al-Midan, killing at least 26 and wounding 63, Syrian state TV reports. Casualties are reported among both civilians and law-enforcement officers.

However, most of the casualties are civilians, SANA news agency reports.

Interior Minister Ibrahim al-Shaar confirmed the death toll on Syrian state television, saying 15 of the victims could not be identified because they had been torn apart in the blast.

The minister vowed a harsh response for those responsible for the grizzly attack in the heart of the capital.

"We will strike back with an iron fist at anyone tempted to tamper with the security of the country or its citizens," al-Shaar said, as cited by Reuters.

A Syrian official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the target of the attack appeared to be a bus carrying policemen. A nearby police station was also damaged by the explosion. Police have cordoned off the area.

The blast occurred at an intersection in al-Midan, in a densely populated area with heavy traffic, near the Hassan al-Hakeem basic education school. Ambulances quickly rushed to the scene.

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AFP Photo / HO / SANA

Syrian TV showed footage of angry men carrying the remains of a dead person and also showed a damaged bus that had blood on its seats as well as the helmets of riot police. The windows of nearby cars had also been blown out from the force of the blast.

"This is a criminal terrorist act," a man shouted while being filmed by a state TV crew.

The bombing comes a fortnight after two blasts targeting security buildings in Damascus killed 44 people.

Violence is continuing in the Syrian capital following months of anti-regime protests and crackdowns on the opposition.

The latest bombing has perpetuated the cycle of claims and counter-claims as to who is responsible for the ongoing violence. While some in the opposition accuse the authorities of carrying out Friday's attack, the government says the suicide-bombing proves they are fighting terrorism rather than a pro-democracy movement.

It has yet to be confirmed whether the attack will affect an Arab League meeting planned for Sunday to discuss an observer report on President Bashar al-Assad's compliance with a plan to halt violence in the country.

The Arab League committee will determine whether to continue the Syrian mission, or refer Damascus to the United Nations Security Council, a move which could give the green light for international intervention.

Meanwhile, in a Thursday interview with AFP in Beirut,  the head of the rebel Free Syrian Army Riyadh al-Assad called on the UN to intervene, saying  Arab League mission had been a failure. 

"We call on the Arab League to step aside and let the United Nations take over responsibility as it is more apt to find solutions." 

On Friday, Arab League Secretary General Nabil Elaraby admitted the monitors in Syria had undertaken a much bigger mission than was originally asked of them, though he did not elaborate further.

An image grab taken from Syrian state TV footage
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An image grab taken from Syrian state TV footage
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An image grab taken from Syrian state TV footage
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An image grab taken from Syrian state TV footage
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AFP Photo / HO / SANA
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on January 06, 2012, 05:44:37 PM
This was an Israeli orchestrated event


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Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 07, 2012, 09:54:40 AM
Syria: Heart of a global struggle?

Published: 07 January, 2012, 21:08
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-bombing-foreign-plot-341/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-bombing-foreign-plot-341/)



Thousands attended the funerals of 26 people killed in Friday’s terrorist attack in Damascus. But while the world focuses on violence within the country, Syria is just a pawn in a big geopolitical game, political analyst Jamal Wakim told RT.

­According to the umbrella Syrian National Council – which includes the Muslim Brotherhood – Friday’s bombing "clearly bears the regime’s fingerprints," as cited by AFP.

The opposition similarly blamed the authorities for a December 23 bombing in the capital which left 44 dead.

However, the Assad government remains adamant that the attack was the work of al-Qaeda, and that it is not cracking down on peaceful protesters, but rather struggling against a violent insurrection.

Meanwhile, the Arab League is preparing to meet in Cairo on Sunday to discuss bringing in the United Nations to help end the 10 months of violence – which the latter says has left over 5,000 dead.

But while opposition activists say the bloodshed has intensified since the Arab League began its month-long monitoring mission on December 27, Dr. Jamal Wakim, political analyst and professor at the Lebanese International University, told RT the US is really behind the escalation of violence in Syria.

“I believe the one behind the bombing [in Damascus on Friday] is the same side that is behind the bombings in central Iraq. I believe the bombs were launched by groups related to the CIA in an attempt to destabilize both Syria and Iraq. At a time when the Americans are withdrawing from Iraq, they are trying to reset a new direction for their policies in the Near East in an attempt to impose a new regional order that keeps this region under their control.”

Wakim further says that regardless of who is actually behind the attack, President Assad will ultimately take the blame.

“According to Western media, of course he [Assad] is guilty. They want to oust Assad because he didn’t comply with their policies. He didn’t agree to break his ties to Iran, he didn’t agree to severe his ties to Russia or China.”


However, while Julie Leveque of the Center for Research on Globalization told RT it was too early to tell who was behind the bombing, she agreed that Western media have already chosen to point a finger at Damascus.

“I think right now it’s really too early to say who has committed those crimes – there’s no evidence.  One thing that is for sure is that the media has clearly taken sides on, this and they’re clearly promoting the explanation of the opposition. It’s quite strange because in the past ten years, people who have been trying to link or suspect the US government for being behind the 9/11 attacks, these people have been systematically discredited as crazy conspiracy theorists.  And now, when it’s the Syrian government that is being blamed for staging these attacks, we don’t hear that crazy conspiracy theory explanation anymore. “
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 08, 2012, 10:50:53 AM
Russian warships dock at Syrian port

Sun Jan 8, 2012 6:53PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/220018.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/220018.html)

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Picture of a Russian Navy flotilla (file photo)

A large Russian navy flotilla led by an aircraft carrier has arrived at the Syrian port of Tartus in the Mediterranean Sea, to show Moscow's solidarity with Damascus.

"The port call is aimed at bringing the two countries closer together and strengthening their ties of friendship," the official SANA news agency quoted a Russian naval officer Yakushin Vladimir Anatolievich as saying on Sunday.

The six-day port call is intended to boost ties at a time when Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is facing accusations from the West over the country's civil unrest.

The West and the Syrian rebels accuse Syrian government of killing the protesters, while Damascus blames “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” for the unrest, insisting that it is being orchestrated from abroad.

Last November, a Syrian news agency reported that a recent expansion of a Russian naval base at the Syrian territorial waters is aimed to send a clear message to the West, that Moscow would resist any foreign intervention in Syria.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in favor of President Bashar al-Assad.

Arab League observers are currently in the country to investigate Syria's months-long unrest and to monitor the implementation of a peace initiative presented by the bloc to put an end to Damascus's crisis.

The United Nations said in mid-December that more than 5,000 people have been killed in the turmoil.

Damascus says over 2,000 of those killed were members of its security forces.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on January 22, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
The Truth about Syria: The west is on the hunt for another war in the Middle East

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15. January 2012 | Written by Jeremy Salt | source (http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=666:the-truth-about-syriathe-west-is-on-the-hunt-for-another-war-in-the-middle-east&catid=56:international-war-on-terror&Itemid=109)

In his speech to university students this week, Bashar al Assad spoke of a conspiracy against Syria. Use another word if you like, but of course there is one. The foot soldiers in the campaign to bring down the Syrian government are the armed men calling themselves the Free Syrian Army and the random armed gangs. None of them could maintain their violent campaign without outside support. Short of open armed intervention from the outside, they cannot overthrow the Syrian government. All they can do is keep killing and causing chaos in the hope that it will eventually collapse. Their sponsors are the US, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Syrian National Council, assorted ‘activists’ in exile, some closely linked to the British Foreign Office and the US State Department, and every salafist across the region. Reform is not the issue. Their agendas vary but converge at one point: their determination to destroy the Baathist government.

For the US, Britain and France – ‘the west’ – the destruction of a government and a political party that has long got in their way is the issue. For Saudi Arabia, the issue is confronting Iran and containing Shiism across the region. For the Muslim Brotherhood, the issue is revenge for Hafez al Assad’s repression of their revolt in 1982, the destruction of a secular government and the installation of a sharia-based substitute which they expect to dominate. For both the Muslim Brotherhood and the salafists the issue is also the destruction of the Alawis as a socio-political force in Syria.

For the US and Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria and Hizbullah are three parts of the same problem. Saudi Arabia regards Iran as the ‘head of the snake’ and wanted it attacked in the last years of the Bush administration, but a direct attack, removing the veil from the covert war already being involved, would be enormously dangerous to the countries waging it. This is what hinders them from going ahead, not the catastrophe that such a war would be for the people of Iran and the region. (It is extraordinary that although Iran has lived under the threat of such an attack for years, the western media still has not dealt with the consequences of a military attack on live nuclear reactors.) Iran would be seriously weakened by successful open (as opposed to the covert war presently being waged) armed intervention in Syria. Such an attack would have much the same immediate effect as a direct attack on Iran.

In 2006 the two countries signed a defense agreement to confront ‘common threats’, and Iran would regard open intervention in Syria as the prelude to an attack on itself. The most likely form of armed intervention would be the declaration of a no-fly zone or a ‘humanitarian corridor’ just over the Turkish-Syrian border. The template for this kind of war was Libya, where up to 50,000 people were killed after France, Britain, the US and their lesser allies decided to attack in the name of maintaining a no-fly zone. Russia and China have indicated that they would block any moves at the UN Security Council to set up such arrangements. In the light of these difficulties, destabilizing Syria with the aim of achieving the same objectives as an open attack is a second best option. Bringing down the Syrian government, rupturing its strategic relationship with Iran and Hizbullah, is an end in itself for the US and its western and gulf allies. Insofar as Iran is concerned, removing Syria from the calculus of war by throwing it into such turmoil that it could not respond would significantly strengthen the US-Israeli position and perhaps make war more likely.

Since the beginning of the year the geopolitical map of the region has been significantly redrawn. Islamist parties have come or are coming into government in Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt, and are likely to do well when elections are held in Libya. What parties say when in opposition and what they feel obliged to do in office are usually two different things and the Islamist parties are no different. On the critical question of relations with Israel, Rashid Ghannushi, the leader of Tunisia’s Al Nahda party has held quiet talks with the Israelis in Washington and has indicated that Palestine will not be a priority for the new Tunisian government. Conflicting signals are coming from the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. According to the US State Department, the brotherhood has given an assurance that it will uphold the 1979 treaty with Israel.

Almost immediately this was denied, with senior brotherhood figures saying that the treaty could not be regarded as sacrosanct and repeating the possibility of a referendum being held so the people could decide. This will be the trickiest of questions for the new government to handle but as the new Egyptian government will need the billions of dollars of aid pledged by the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the IMF (last year an offer of $3 billion was not taken up but will be discussed again this January), pragmatism is likely to win out, in the short term and perhaps for as long as Israel itself does not put the treaty at risk through another savage attack on Gaza or Lebanon.

In this rapidly changing environment Syria is a holdout state, standing firm against the US and Israel on the one hand and the rising Islamist/salafist trend on the other. The peaceful opposition was swamped in violence a long time ago, with the army still battling ‘defectors’ and the armed gangs the media keeps telling us are an invention of the state. The western media has yet to interview the families of the thousands of soldiers and civilians who have been killed by ‘defectors’ and other armed bands to see what they think about what is happening in their country. Relying on the unverified accusations of ‘activists’ or suspect sources outside Syria, the media has played a critical role in the development of a false narrative.

Last week the Guardian hit a new low point with the accusation by of a London-based ‘activist’ that the Syrian security forces are packing detainees into container ships and dumping them at sea. It had no evidence for this claim, but then this is how the Guardian has been ‘reporting’ this crisis throughout.

When Damascus was bombed, both the Guardian and the BBC led with the claim that these bombings were the work of the government – according to activists. They had no evidence for this accusation either, literally made while Syrians were still washing the blood off the streets and picking up the body parts of the civilians who had been killed. When the Arab League issued an interim statement on the work of its monitors in Syria, it called for an end to the violence by the state and by armed gangs. On its web page, the BBC reported only that it called on the Syrian government to end the violence.

The west is on the hunt for another war in the Middle East. This is the essence of the campaign against Syria. Iran is being provoked every other day. This week another nuclear scientist was assassinated. The clear intention is to goad Iran into retaliating, providing the pretext for the armed attack that many in Israel and the US want. There is no question that Syria needs to reform but anyone who thinks that the US, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are campaigning against Syria for the cause of reform is living in a dream world. Every wild accusation made by activists and dutifully reported by the media is grist to their mill. They don’t want the violence to end. They want it continue until the Syrian government is destroyed, and they have the resources to keep this going virtually endlessly. If they take the plunge and launch an open attack on Syria or Iran they are likely to trigger off a regional war and, in the view of some, a global war. In their grey suits and pastel ties, these people are as crazy as any fascist in a brown uniform.

- Jeremy Salt teaches the history of the modern Middle East in the Department of Political science, Bilkent University, Ankara. He previously taught at Bogazici (Bosporus) University in Istanbul and the University of Melbourne. His publications include The Unmaking of the Middle East: A History of Western Disorder in Arab Lands (University of California Press, 2008). He contributed this article to PalestineChronicle.com.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 22, 2012, 08:40:53 PM
Syria dismisses AL power transfer deal

Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:10AM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/222568.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/222568.html)

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Arab foreign ministers meeting in Cairo, Egypt, on January 22, 2012
to decide the future of its observer mission to Syria


Syria has rejected an Arab League (AL) demand for President Bashar al-Assad to hand over power, saying the plan for regime change in the country is a violation of its sovereignty.

A Syrian official source condemned the AL's new proposal as a violation of Syria's sovereignty and part of a conspiracy against the Syrian nation.

AL foreign ministers proposed a plan on Sunday, calling on President Bashar al-Assad to hand over power to his top deputy and set up a new unity government, which includes the Syrian opposition.

The plan envisioned, “The formation of a national unity government within two months, with the participation of both the regime and the opposition, headed by an individual, previously agreed upon, and whose mission would be the implementation of the terms of the Arab League's plan,” said Qatari Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, who is also the current head of the AL.

The Arab body decided to extend its observer mission in Syria for another month as well.

The observer mission has been in Syria since December 26, 2011 and is in charge of monitoring the implementation of the AL resolution to end the unrest in the country.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in favor of President Bashar al-Assad.

Damascus says “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” are responsible for the unrest and it is being orchestrated from abroad.

On January 11, President Assad joined thousands of government supporters in the capital Damascus and said Syria will “undoubtedly triumph over foreign conspiracies.”

LW - 'sovereignty'... what a novel idea.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: mallard on January 22, 2012, 09:41:26 PM
Quoting article above:

"Damascus says “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” are responsible for the unrest and it is being orchestrated from abroad."

They shouldn't forget to mention Z Team antics c/o Al Jazeera and other media outlets ... who covered Libya with equally one-sided assumptions of moral authority.

With Egypt and Qatar calling for Assad to step down now, it's only a matter of days before the violence escalates.  This is a turning point.
 
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 27, 2012, 08:27:30 PM
Russia rejects new draft resolution on Syria

Published: 28 January, 2012, 05:15
source: http://rt.com/news/russia-rejects-resolution-syria-927/ (http://rt.com/news/russia-rejects-resolution-syria-927/)


Russia's Ambassador to the UN Vitaly Churkin (AFP Photo / Emmanuel Dunand)

Russia has opposed the new Arab-European draft resolution on Syria presented by Morocco in the UN Security Council on Friday. Russia’s ambassador to the UN says it will continue to search for ways to end the ongoing bloodshed there.


As RT’s Marina Portnaya reports from New York, Russia’s ambassador to the UN, Vitaly Churkin, expressed “deep” disappointment with the draft, indicating that he does not believe that the international community should impose an outside solution on the Syrian conflict. He also rejected the idea of an arms embargo or the use of force being imposed on Syria.

“The proposed draft resolution cannot be used as the basis of solving the situation, but we are ready to continue working,” Churkin said. He added that not only does the draft ignore the line Russia cannot cross, but also “adds new elements” to which Moscow will not agree as a matter of principle.

The draft resolution expresses “grave concern” over the deteriorating situation in Syria, condemns the Syrian authorities for “widespread and gross violations of human rights and fundamental freedoms” and demands that all parties end the violence. Most importantly, it calls on President Bashar Assad to transfer full power to his deputy and to fully cooperate with the national unity government.

Earlier, Russia vowed to block any resolution that calls for President Assad to step down and proposed its own draft resolution, which was considered too soft by the West.

In October, Russia and China, both permanent members of the Security Council, vetoed an earlier Western draft resolution on Syria, warning against a repeat of the Libya scenario.

The Western countries and the Arab League have demanded that Bashar Assad resigns as part of a transition to democracy, a call rejected by Damascus. The Syrian government says it is fighting foreign-backed armed “terrorists” who have killed 2,000 soldiers and police.

Clashes between President Assad's forces and anti-government gunmen continue in many parts of the country including the capital.

The UN says that the continuing bloodshed in Syria has already claimed more than 5,400 lives since the country was swept by unrest in March amid the wave of uprisings across the Arab world. However, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, said that up-to-date figures are difficult to come by as some areas, including parts of the troubled city of Homs, are now “completely closed” off to the world.

­Middle-East blogger Karl Sharro believes that outside forces are only further confusing situation in Syria.

 “What needs to be done is for all external actors to step away from this conflict and allow the dynamic of what really the Syrian people want to emerge,” he told RT. “They are just pouring oil on the fire at the moment.”

Sharro noted that while the West is trying to “claim the moral high ground” and hint at intervention into Syria it really does not have any clear plan.

“The West should learn from its mistakes and abandon this misplaced notion that it’s their responsibility to sort out the situation in Syria,” he concluded.

­As long as US policies prevail over the Syrian conflict there will be no solution to the crisis, insists Lawrence K. Freeman from the Executive Intelligence Review.

“There is a very aggressive policy which is being pushed by the United State and the British for regime change. And the Russians, the Chinese and other people, and people in the Arab League are not going to go along with that. It’s unacceptable. Unless we get a change in policy the difficulties are actually going to get worse,” he warned.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 30, 2012, 09:49:20 AM
Syria army takes back Damascus burbs

Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:18PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/223947.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/223947.html)

Syrian troops have regained control of some suburbs in the capital, Damascus, which were held by terrorist groups, reports say.

The Syrian army on Monday retook control of the eastern suburbs of Damascus, including Kfar Batna, Saqba, Jisreen, and Arbeen, days after terrorist groups fighting against the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad attacked the area and took up positions there.

According to the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, dozens of civilians were injured during the exchange of fire between Syrian troops and terrorists.

A spokesman for the anti-government forces of the terrorist ''Free Syrian Army'' confirmed the withdrawal of the terrorists from the Damascus suburbs.

Activists say armed groups had come as close as 8 km to Damascus and that they were launching attacks on government troops.

Meanwhile, Russia's Foreign Ministry has announced that it has invited Syrian officials and the opposition to meet for talks in Moscow, and that the Syrian authorities have agreed to negotiations.

The Syrian National Council, however, has said that it will not join the talks aimed at ending months of unrest in the country.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March. Many people have lost their lives in the country over the past 10 months. Damascus says over 2,000 security forces have been killed in the unrest.

The West and the Syrian opposition accuse the government of killing protesters. But Damascus blames ''outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups'' for the unrest, insisting that it is being orchestrated from abroad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 31, 2012, 08:47:42 AM
Violent clashes erupt in Syria's Homs

Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:47PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/224119.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/224119.html)

Syrian army troops have clashed with armed gangs in the central Syrian province of Homs, officials says.

The Tuesday clashes in Homs took place one day after Syrian state media reported that “an armed terrorist group” blew up a pipeline carrying gas from the provincial capital city of Homs to a region in Talkalakh district of the province.

No casualties were reported in the pipeline attack on Monday.

On Saturday, “an armed terrorist group” attacked an “oil pipeline” passing through the northeastern province of Deir al-Zour, state media said.

Syrian gas and oil pipelines have come under several attacks by armed groups since the beginning of the unrest in the country in mid-March 2011.

Hundreds of people including Syrian security forces have been killed in the turmoil.

Syrian state media said “armed terrorists” attacked a vehicle transporting Syrian military personnel near the southwestern city of Dara'a on Monday. Six Syrian troops were killed in the attack.

The West and the Syrian opposition accuse the government of being behind the killings, but Damascus says “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” are responsible for the unrest and it is being orchestrated from abroad.

On Saturday (28 January), Arab League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi said in a statement the organization had decided to “immediately stop the work of the Arab League's mission to Syria” due to “the critical deterioration of the situation” in the country.

The observer mission had been in Syria since December 26, 2011 and was tasked with monitoring the implementation of the Arab League resolution to end the unrest in the country.

The Syrian government said on Saturday that Damascus “regrets the decision taken by Arabi to suspend the observer mission” and that the decision called for “foreign intervention” and encouraged “armed groups to increase violence.”
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Brezo on January 31, 2012, 09:06:13 AM
Assad, his wife and children 'will be killed like Gaddafi'

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Threat from opposition leader comes as Britain and France pile pressure on Russians for UN peace plan LAST UPDATED AT 07:42 ON Tue 31 Jan 2012
 
AS THE UN Security Council meets in New York today over Syria, a leading member of the country's opposition movement has warned that President Bashar al-Assad, his British wife Asma and their three children will meet a bloody end "like Gaddafi".

In crushing the opposition with such brutality, Assad has forfeited any chance of a peaceful exit from Damascus, Haitham Maleh told The Daily Telegraph.

Maleh, a renowned human rights activist who has spent years in jail for his pains, said: "Assad and his family will be killed in Syria, their next steps will be very bloody.

"Two months ago we offered him the option to leave us alone and go but instead he went for the blood of his people. The end for him will be that he is killed like Gaddafi."

Maleh's comments follow reports that Asma Assad, who grew up in Acton, west London and attended Queens College Marylebone, was among a group of Assad's family members stopped from reaching the airport this week.

One issue that makes the bloody crackdown a family affair in the eyes of the opposition is that President Assad's brother Maher commands the 4th Division of the Syrian Army, responsible for some of the worst atrocities against democracy protesters.

In New York today, the Arab League will put forward its peace plan which involves Assad stepping down and hand power to his deputy and allow for a national unity government.

Syria's strongest ally, Russia, is still threatening to veto such a plan because it leaves the door open to intervention of the kind used in Libya.

According to the Financial Times, French and British diplomats now argue that Russia can no longer block a UN resolution. "We're trying to convince the Russians that they can't stay in their posture of opposition to a resolution while there is this much killing on the ground," said a French official.

"It's an all-out push for the Arab peace plan," said another western diplomat.



Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/syria-uprising/44862/assad-his-wife-and-children-will-be-killed-gaddafi#ixzz1l3lmDoFV
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on January 31, 2012, 01:15:17 PM
Assad, his wife and children 'will be killed like Gaddafi'

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According to the Financial Times, French and British diplomats now argue that Russia can no longer block a UN resolution.
(???? - now that's a new one!)

"We're trying to convince the Russians that they can't stay in their posture of opposition to a resolution while there is this
much killing on the ground," said a French official.

What a cheap tactic! How about letting the CIA and the Mossad go back to where they came from?

Problem solved!
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on January 31, 2012, 03:56:54 PM

According to the Financial Times, French and British diplomats now argue that Russia can no longer block a UN resolution.
(???? - now that's a new one!)

"We're trying to convince the Russians that they can't stay in their posture of opposition to a resolution while there is this
much killing on the ground," said a French official.

What a cheap tactic! How about letting the CIA and the Mossad go back to where they came from?

Problem solved!

Things are really moving along. Georgia's president, the tie eater, met with Obama, the US military is challenging China in the Philipines, India and Iran are going to trade gold for oil, and a lot of US ships are moving into the Gulf.

That's it folks, the moment has arrived. Will Russia back down?
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on January 31, 2012, 04:21:15 PM
I listen to BBC and they go on and on about Syria.

UK can do nothing without US OK for NATO action...This will not happen anytime soon.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on January 31, 2012, 05:20:25 PM
I listen to BBC and they go on and on about Syria.

UK can do nothing without US OK for NATO action...This will not happen anytime soon.

I don't know, they're working pretty hard at the moment to keep Syria unstable. I don't think they're going to allow the opportunity to pass.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on January 31, 2012, 06:30:44 PM
Syria:
West hopeful Russia will not stand in way of
UN deal to remove Bashar al-Assad


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Foreign Secretary William Hague and United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during the United Nations Security Council meeting

William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, welcomed a suggestion from Russia that it was "possible and necessary"
to reach "consensus" over the Syria crisis, following an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council.


Nw York, Richard Spencer and Damien McElroy ~ 01 February 2012~ source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9053217/Syria-West-hopeful-Russia-will-not-stand-in-way-of-UN-deal-to-remove-Bashar-al-Assad.html)

Britain and other Western powers launched a diplomatic offensive to secure Russian agreement to a United Nations resolution demanding Bashar al-Assad stand aside as Syrian president within 15 days.

But Vitaly Churkin, the Russian Ambassador to the UN, told the Security Council he was encouraged that Russia’s concerns had been reflected in the latest draft, although he warned that Russia would not stand “for any sanctions or using the Council’s tool box to fuel conflict.”

Asked if this indicated a more conciliatory approach by Moscow, Mr Hague said: “I would like to see it that way”.

Earlier Moscow had warned that the resolution, drawn up by the Arab League, amounted to a "path to civil war".

Russia and China raised concerns that the resolution could be used to pave the way for military intervention, similar to the Nato-backed operation in Libya last year. During an emergency meeting of the council, Syria sought to exploit these fears by comparing the proposal to the resolution which was used as the legal basis for the Libyan mission. Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, dismissed it as a "false analogy".

Britain, the Arab League, the United States and France all insisted that military action was not the aim of the resolution, and that the Assad regime had to be stopped from spilling more blood. Mr Hague told the council: "This is not the West telling Syria what to do. While we meet, the gravest of crimes are being committed in Syria."

The Arab League warned that the crisis had the potential to upset the entire Middle East unless an immediate ceasefire was imposed, followed by a peaceful political process.

The draft resolution is the first to explicitly criticise the Assad regime since the start of the Syrian uprising last March.

Addressing the council on behalf of the League, Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber Al-Thani, the prime minister of Qatar, said: "The bloodshed continues, the killing machine is still at work. We are not calling for any military intervention, we’re calling for economic pressure to show Syria it cannot ignore the demands of its people."

Syria rejected the resolution. Bashar Ja’afari, its UN representative, said: "Syria is going through decisive challenges in its history. We want this stage to be through the will of our people, not through the will of anyone else. Syrian patriotism rejects external intervention."

In a blow to the backers of the resolution, China insisted that the Syrian people could be trusted to find their own way out of the crisis, and said it would not back "regime change" or use of force.

According to a leaked early draft of the text, which will be voted on later this week, the resolution condemns the "continued widespread and gross violations of human rights and fundamental freedoms", including the use of arbitrary executions, torture and sexual violence.

It also offers the UN’s full support for an Arab League peace plan that calls for Mr Assad to oversee the formation of a unity government, establish "transparent and free" elections and hand power to his deputy. The resolution threatens "further measures" if the Syrian regime fails to comply "within 15 days".

However, it does still face the threat of a Russian — and possibly a Chinese — veto if it is put to a vote on Thursday or Friday. Officials in New York said the resolution would put Arab League reconciliation efforts at its core, opening the way for "peaceful Syrian-led" transition.

They face a fierce battle to ensure Russia abstains from the vote instead of using its veto. David Cameron and other Western leaders have warned that the council cannot afford further inaction.

Mr Cameron told MPs that Britain was trying to "say to the Russians: ‘Really, if you go on vetoing or preventing these motions, you are going to be completely outside, not just world public opinion, but the very, very clear, expressed opinion of the Arab League’".

There has been a marked increase in violence over the past week, with almost 400 dead. Mr Assad on Tuesday visited wounded troops at Martyr Yousef al-Azmeh Hospital in Damascus, inquiring after their health and inspecting medical facilities.

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This is the moment of truth in regard to Putin's stand. Will he budge, or will he block the imperialist agenda?
OMG, that woman looks obsessed! (Chances are she is.)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on January 31, 2012, 06:38:31 PM
That's it folks, the moment has arrived. Will Russia back down?

As I mentioned in my last post, this is the deciding moment of truth and honor. We'll see.

I sure hope they are not in engaged in quickly trying to find a buyer for Russia's Warship.  8)



Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 31, 2012, 06:54:09 PM
OMG, that woman looks obsessed! (Chances are she is.)

Positively reptilian. What a trio of scary pictures today... Albright, Merkel and now Clinton. There oughta be a law.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on January 31, 2012, 06:57:37 PM
Quote
This is the moment of truth in regard to Putin's stand. Will he budge, or will he block the imperialist agenda?
OMG, that woman looks obsessed! (Chances are she is.)

The stakes are very high and the pictures of Lavrov on RT make him look like he's under pressure too. The other game being played to pressure Russia is some game that's in the works with Georgia; I have no idea what they're planning there.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on January 31, 2012, 06:58:57 PM
Positively reptilian. What a trio of scary pictures today... Albright, Merkel and now Clinton. There oughta be a law.

No kidding! Scary is no understatement...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on January 31, 2012, 07:10:08 PM
The stakes are very high and the pictures of Lavrov on RT make him look like he's under pressure too.

This will probably be another 'you're either with us or against us' moment. 

Quote
The other game being played to pressure Russia is some game that's in the works with Georgia; I have no idea what they're planning there.

Oh, I have not heard any news about a possible conflict with Georgia yet. (I hope there are spare red ties...) Where did you hear or read that?

Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on January 31, 2012, 07:20:10 PM
This will probably be another 'you're either with us or against us' moment. 

Oh, I have not heard any news about a possible conflict with Georgia yet. (I hope there are spare red ties...) Where did you hear or read that?

http://rt.com/politics/obama-saakashvili-white-house-georgia-russia-167/
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on January 31, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
http://rt.com/politics/obama-saakashvili-white-house-georgia-russia-167/

(http://rt.com/files/politics/obama-saakashvili-white-house-georgia-russia-167/saakashvili-oval-georgias-president.n.jpg) Mikhail does not look all that comfortable....

“One of the first things that I did was to express my appreciation for the institution building that’s been
taking place in Russia,” Obama declared, before quickly correcting himself. “Er, in Georgia…”

Priceless!
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Sue on January 31, 2012, 09:31:16 PM
Security Council will never sanction Syria bombing - Lavrov

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RIA Novosti / Sergey Guneev ~ 31 January, 2012, 17:15 ~ source (http://rt.com/politics/russia-support-consider-syrians-163/)

The Russian Foreign Minister has said that combat aircraft and bombs will never solve the political crisis in Syria. “If they tell Bashar Asad to leave and he refuses to leave, what can they do? Summon combat aircraft? Bomb him? We have already been through that and the Security Council would never approve of that, I guarantee you that,” Sergey Lavrov told the press in Sydney on Tuesday.

The head of Russian diplomacy was keen to point out that his country had never said retaining Bashar Assad in power was a precondition for a settlement.However Lavrov insisted that the fate of Syria must only be decided by the Syrian people.

“What we were saying was different – that the decision must be made by Syrians, that all groups of Syrians must get together at the negotiation table and reach an agreement. They must decide who must go and who must become a replacement,” the Russian minister said. Lavrov also said that Russia was strongly against any foreign interference in the talks and particularly opposed barring any Syrian figures or groups from negotiations.

The Russian Foreign Minister also said he was not deliberately ignoring phone calls from US Secretary of State Secretary Hillary Clinton, but simply could not violate diplomatic protocol by disrupting scheduled negotiations with Australian diplomats.

“Literally today I was told by phone that Hillary Clinton has called and wanted to talk. They offered an exact time and this was in the middle of my meetings with Australian partners. We naturally told the Americans that during the time that they find convenient I will be at the talks and it is not in our diplomatic tradition to insult the partners in talks or to show disrespect to those with whom we agree to meet,” Lavrov said.

When reporters asked why Clinton had complained that she could not get through for a long time, Lavrov suggested that it could probably be explained by manners.

“I don't know why Hillary would need to talk to me so urgently,” Lavrov said, and added that Russia’s top diplomats in New York were always available for negotiations.

Aides to Russia's Foreign Minister told RT soon after Lavrov’s comment that the information that the US State Secretary tried to reach Lavrov for 24hrs was a ploy to turn public opinion against Russia.

The US State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland told reporters in Washington on Monday that Hillary Clinton had been trying unsuccessfully to connect with Sergey Lavrov.

"The secretary, frankly, has been trying to get Foreign Minister Lavrov on the phone for about 24 hours," she said in Washington. "That's proven difficult," the US official said.

Later in the day the Russian Foreign Minister told the Australian news channel ABC that his country would fulfill signed deals to supply weapons to the Syrian authorities, but added that the Russian weapons were not of a kind that could be used against demonstrators.

“We have signed the contracts and we must fulfill them,” Lavrov said.

The minister also said that Russia had no intention of persuading the Syrian leader, Bashar al-Assad, to stand down.

“Russian policy is not in asking anyone to resign. Change of regimes is not our profession,” Lavrov said. At the same time, the Russian official repeated that his country was “neither friend nor ally” of President Assad.

Everyone is afraid to tell it how it really is. That has to be so sad, because anybody with half a brain knows who the players are.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on February 01, 2012, 02:22:34 AM
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Everyone is afraid to tell it how it really is. That has to be so sad, because anybody with half a brain knows who the players are.

Lavrov's statement: "Security Council will never sanction Syria bombing - Lavrov" means the bombing of Syria will happen, but we(Russia and China) and the SC won't approve of it.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on February 01, 2012, 02:29:55 AM
(http://rt.com/files/politics/obama-saakashvili-white-house-georgia-russia-167/saakashvili-oval-georgias-president.n.jpg) Mikhail does not look all that comfortable....

“One of the first things that I did was to express my appreciation for the institution building that’s been
taking place in Russia,” Obama declared, before quickly correcting himself. “Er, in Georgia…”

Priceless!

They're not giving us enough information yet, but we can be sure it's some funny business to force Russia's hand.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on February 01, 2012, 06:34:04 AM
Syria:
West hopeful Russia will not stand in way of
UN deal to remove Bashar al-Assad


(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02125/hague-clintonEPA_2125622b.jpg)



The bull dagger Clinton look like something out of 'StarTrek'...



(http://rt.com/files/politics/obama-saakashvili-white-house-georgia-russia-167/saakashvili-oval-georgias-president.n.jpg)

Jigaboo way out of his league, and he is talking for America...



Assad, his wife and children 'will be killed like Gaddafi'

(http://jenniferbruni.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/img-a-rose-in-the-desert_184635407363_article_singleimage.jpg)


...Haitham Maleh told The Daily Telegraph.

Maleh, a renowned human rights activist who has spent years in jail for his pains, said: "Assad and his family will be killed in Syria, their next steps will be very bloody.


There should be international arrest warrant out for this terrorist, old bastard...

(http://www.yalibnan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Haitham-Maleh.jpg)

Haitham Maleh
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on February 01, 2012, 06:43:22 AM
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Jigaboo way out of his league, and he is talking for America...

He does as he's told.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on February 01, 2012, 07:31:11 AM
He does as he's told.

Huffington's husband, Dennis Ross has been advising him on this, along with Hillary...Gives you confidence.  ::)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 01, 2012, 10:12:26 AM
Terrorists shell residential areas in Homs

Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:51PM
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/224303.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/224303.html)

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An image grab taken from a YouTube video uploaded on January 31, 2012 shows an oil pipeline
burning in the Baba Amr neighborhood of the restive city of Homs following a terrorist attack.


At least 20 people have been injured as terrorist groups shell several residential areas in the Syrian city of Homs, where violent clashes between security forces and armed gangs continue to take their toll, Press TV reports.

Witnesses say terrorists fired shells at al-Zahra and al-Nezha neighborhoods in Homs on Wednesday and several homes and schools were hit.

The London-based Syrian Observatory of Human Rights said 15 soldiers were also killed during clashes in the restive central city.

At least 15 people, including a top military commander, were killed by armed gangs in a northern suburb of the Syrian capital, Press TV's correspondent in Damascus reported.

The clashes come as the West is making attempts to convince Russia not to veto a draft Security Council resolution calling on President Bashar al-Assad to step down.

Russia has repeatedly expressed opposition to any UN resolution that would justify sanctions or the use of force against Syria, describing negotiations as the only way to end months of unrest in the country.

China, another veto- -wielding permanent member of the UN Security Council, has also expressed opposition to the draft resolution based on concerns that this could eventually lead to a military action against Syria, similar to the NATO attacks on Libya in March 2011.

LW - Homes and schools. Ramping up the terrorism while the international community plays word games. It's clear that any concessions by Assad to the UN avails Syria no respite whatsoever.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on February 01, 2012, 10:29:32 AM
Terrorists shell residential areas in Homs


LW - Homes and schools. Ramping up the terrorism while the international community plays word games. It's clear that any concessions by Assad to the UN avails Syria no respite whatsoever.

Syria is being invaded and terrorized by a foreign army, consisting of some Syrian rogue military along with 'advisors'...NATO/Israel/US wait to see what happens with this band of mercenaries before getting involved more directly.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on February 01, 2012, 10:56:49 AM
Our National Intelligence Director says Iran might hit Americans taking the subway.


US intelligence: Iran could launch terror attacks on America


http://rt.com/news/us-attack-iran-allegations-271/
Published: 01 February, 2012, 20:04


(http://rt.com/files/news/us-attack-iran-allegations-271/james-intelligence-clapper.n.jpg)

U.S. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (AFP Photo / Win McNamee)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on February 01, 2012, 11:44:41 AM
Our National Intelligence Director says Iran might hit Americans taking the subway.


US intelligence: Iran could launch terror attacks on America


http://rt.com/news/us-attack-iran-allegations-271/
Published: 01 February, 2012, 20:04


(http://rt.com/files/news/us-attack-iran-allegations-271/james-intelligence-clapper.n.jpg)

U.S. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (AFP Photo / Win McNamee)

When I get on the subway later, I'll keep an eye out for Iranians....They hate our freedom.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on February 01, 2012, 03:53:37 PM
When I get on the subway later, I'll keep an eye out for Iranians....They hate our freedom.

Moose-Limbs sacrifice their kids with bombs and stone their women
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: clefty on February 01, 2012, 04:10:02 PM
Our National Intelligence Director says Iran might hit Americans taking the subway.


US intelligence: Iran could launch terror attacks on America


http://rt.com/news/us-attack-iran-allegations-271/
Published: 01 February, 2012, 20:04


(http://rt.com/files/news/us-attack-iran-allegations-271/james-intelligence-clapper.n.jpg)

U.S. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (AFP Photo / Win McNamee)

he looks totally jooish...ok maybe not him but his second cousin married a joo

In 2003 Clapper, then head of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, attempted to explain the absence of WMDs in Iraq by asserting that the weapons materials were "unquestionably" shipped out of Iraq to Syria and other countries just before the American invasion, a "personal assessment" which Clapper's own agency head at the time, David Burpee, "could not provide further evidence to support."[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=10170608

not ironically he's in this distinguished list

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Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on February 03, 2012, 09:36:27 AM
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This from 'CIA Today'...

Russia vows to block Western intervention in Syria

BEIRUT (AP) – Syria's powerful allies in Russia vowed Wednesday to block any Western attempts to intervene militarily in Syria as Damascus fights off an increasingly chaotic 10-month-old revolt against President Bashar Assad.

AP

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Anti-Syrian regime protesters chant slogans and flash the victory sign as they march during a demonstration on Tuesday in Zabadani, Syria.

The support came as Assad was showing fresh confidence that he can ride out the uprising with the help of a small — but influential — set of friends in Russia, China and Iran.

Iran also gave Syria another boost Wednesday. According to Iran's semi-official ISNA news agency, with the commander of Iran's Quds Force, Brig. Gen. Qasem Soleimani, said Assad's government enjoys public support and won't collapse.

Assad, a 46-year-old authoritarian leader who inherited power from his father in 2000, has made two public appearances last week, where he vowed to strike back with an "iron hand" against the "conspiracy" behind the uprising. Assad has rarely turned up in public during the uprising, and his appearances showed he was still firmly in charge.

But protesters show no sign of retreat despite the brutal military crackdown that the U.N. says has killed more than 5,400 people since March. And the uprising is turning increasingly militarized as more frustrated regime opponents and army defectors arm themselves and fight back against the regime.

The comments by Russia's Foreign Minister Lavrov were one of Moscow's strongest statements of support yet for Assad. As one of five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, Russia can veto any Council resolution that would authorize military intervention in Syria.

"If some intend to use force at all cost … we can hardly prevent that from happening," Lavrov told a news conference in Moscow. "But let them do it at their own initiative on their own conscience. They won't get any authorization from the U.N. Security Council."


Lavrov said his country's draft of a U.N. Security Council resolution on the violence in Syria, which was circulated at the U.N. on Monday, aimed to make it explicitly clear that nothing could justify foreign military interference. However, Western diplomats said the draft fell short of their demand for strong condemnation of Assad's crackdown on civilians.

Russia has been a strong ally of Syria since Soviet times when the country was led by the president's father Hafez Assad. Nevertheless, Russian officials last fall hosted prominent Syrian opposition leaders in Moscow in a bid to sponsor talks.

Lavrov's comments made clear that Russia's position on intervention in Syria has not changed.

"Russia has a number of interests which would be protected by ensuring that there is no external interference in domestic developments in the country," said Anthony Skinner, associate director at Maplecroft, a British-based risk analysis company. Russia sells weapons to Syria and the country's Tartous port gives the Russians a foothold in the Levant region.

But Skinner said the Russian support is not grounds for Assad to feel more secure in his position.

"If you look at the overall longer term dynamic, it's not something that he should draw any confidence from," he said. "As we have seen with autocrats throughout the region, they at times live in an alternative reality and they have to project an image of strength confidence and power," he said.

Syria's regime has grown increasingly isolated over the past 10 months as it waged a brutal military crackdown on an anti-government uprising inspired by the Arab Spring revolts across the region. The U.N. says the violence has killed more than 5,400 people since March.

The Security Council has been unable to agree on a resolution since the violence began because of strong opposition from Russia and China, another permanent, veto-wielding member of the Security Council. In October, both countries vetoed a West European draft resolution backed by the U.S. that condemned Assad's attacks and threatened sanctions.

Russia has sold Syria weapons systems in the past, including the advanced surface-to-air Strelets system, and its warships already had been calling on Syria's northern port of Tartous.

The Syrian opposition and Western countries have also accused Iran, Syria's closest ally in the Middle East, of assisting the regime in its crackdown.

A senior Obama administration official said Tuesday that a recent visit by the commander of Iran's powerful Quds Force to Damascus is the strongest sign yet that Washington's arch foe Tehran is supplying weapons to aid Assad's crackdown.

On Wednesday, British Prime Minister David Cameron also said Iran and Iranian-backed Islamist group Hezbollah in Lebanon are supporting Syria's violent crackdown on the uprising — accusations that both have denied.

As diplomats debated, opposition activists said Syrian troops shelled the mountain resort town of Zabadani near the border with Lebanon, which has come under the control of army defectors. They said living conditions were deteriorating there after six days of a military siege.

There have been several other instances when the opposition or defectors have gained control of a town or city, but ultimately the Syrian military recaptured them.

The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said Zabadani was hit with heavy machine gun fire early Wednesday.

A resident and activist in Zabadani described the town as a "war zone." He said dozens of anti-government army defectors are deployed at the entrances to prevent any attempt by forces loyal to Assad to storm the area.

The man, who identified himself only as Fares for fear of government reprisal, told The Associated Press by phone that the town was shelled with mortars shortly before noon Wednesday. He added that two security buildings inside Zabadani are still under government control but there have not been any clashes with the forces there.

Fares said food is running out and fuel for heating is very scarce in Zabadani, where it snowed earlier this week.

The anti-Assad revolt, which began as a peaceful uprising by mostly civilian, unarmed protesters has turned increasingly militarized in recent months with growing numbers of army defectors who clash with troops.

The Observatory said there were also clashes between defectors and regular troops in the northwestern province of Idlib, near the border with Turkey. It added that security forces shot dead a civilian in the province. At least 10 civilians and several defectors were killed in fighting in Idlib and shooting in the central city of Homs Wednesday, according to activists.

The Russian foreign minister also addressed reports that a Russian ship had recently delivered munitions to Syria in violation of a European Union arms embargo. He said Russia doesn't feel a need to explain or offer excuses.

Lavrov said Russia was acting in full respect of international law and wouldn't be guided by unilateral sanctions imposed by other nations.

"We haven't violated any international agreements or the U.N. Security Council resolutions," he said. "We are only trading with Syria in items which aren't banned by international law."

Lavrov accused the West of turning a blind eye to attacks by opposition militants and supplies of weapons to the Syrian opposition from abroad.

"They are dodging the main question: Why we should keep silent about the extremist opposition's actions against administrative buildings, hospitals, schools?" He urged the West to use its contacts with the opposition to pressure activists to refrain from violence.

He said that arms supplies to the Syrian opposition are "unacceptable and absolutely counterproductive because it only fuels more violence."

Assad's government blames the violence in Syria on terrorists and armed gangs that it claims are part of a foreign conspiracy to destabilize the country.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-18/russia-syria-intervention/52645122/1 (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-18/russia-syria-intervention/52645122/1)
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 04, 2012, 07:39:00 AM
Hundreds killed in Syria as UNSC vote nears

Published: 04 February, 2012, 14:30
Edited: 04 February, 2012, 17:35
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-violence-un-resolution-499/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-violence-un-resolution-499/)

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Supporters of the FSA block a street during a protest in Reef Damascus, against Assad's forces attacking the town of Homs(Reuters / Stringer) .

Hundreds are reported dead after a major military offensive on the western Syrian city of Homs overnight. While the country’s opposition blames Bashar al-Assad for the assault, the regime claims the reports are provocations.

Reports say at least 200 perished in the attack on the Syrian city of Homs, which started late on Friday. Eyewitnesses say attackers used tanks, mortars and machine guns, Al Jazeera reports.

The opposition claims it was the Syrian regular army that caused the bloodbath.  Assad’s regime denies attacking Homs and maintains the reports are untrue and aimed at putting pressure on the UN Security Council, which is expected to vote on a resolution on Saturday. The regime accused TV stations broadcasting images of Homs and dead bodies of “inciting violence.”

"The civilians shown by satellite television stations are citizens who were kidnapped and killed by armed gunmen," state agency SANA said.

Protesters stormed Syrian embassies in Cairo, Kuwait and London on Saturday, AFP reports. The opposition Syrian National Council called on the world community to take action, saying Assad’s regime had “committed one of the most horrific massacres since the beginning of the uprising in Syria.”

The UN Security Council is expected to vote on the resolution on Syria on Saturday, AP quoted an unnamed diplomat in the Council as saying. The move to a vote follows a conversation between Hillary Clinton and the Russian Foreign Minister on Friday, the agency reports.

However news of the vote, which emerged overnight, came as a surprise to Russia.

Sergey Lavrov said on Saturday that Russia still has concerns about the draft resolution which need to be addressed. Any attempt by the US to push for the UNSC to vote today would be “just another scandal,” the Russian foreign minister said in an interview on Russia 1 TV channel.

Later in the day Lavrov said Russia sees two major problems with the current draft resolution. First, there are too few demands being placed on the armed opposition movement in the country; and second, that the resolution might prejudge the outcome of political dialogue between the sides.

RT’s Sarah Firth, speaking about Russia’s reservations on the draft resolution, highlighted the stumbling block of language.

“They don’t like this obscure language that leaves the door open for international intervention,” she explained.

She went on to underline how difficult it is “to get an accurate gauge or accurate figures” on the violence wracking the country and the urgent need for a resolution.

Russian’s top diplomat is due to meet with his American counterpart, Hillary Clinton, later on Saturday, on the sidelines of a security conference in Munich.

­Even from inside the country, it is extremely difficult to verify reports of events there.  RT’s Sara Firth, who has just returned from Syria, shares her first-hand experiences.

“Even when we were there in the country, it is extremely hard to really get to the bottom of what is happening – to get to the areas, to see it with your own two eyes, and to be able to verify the information,” she said.

“I have been speaking to people again today who we are in contact with in some of these areas [near Homs] and, to be honest, most of the phones are out of reception at the moment. There are all sorts of reports of electricity being down in many of these areas,” Sarah added.

“In the center of Damascus the people we were working with are saying at the moment they are waiting for information too. It is exceptionally hard to gauge exactly what is going on at the moment.”

LW - International intervention is well on it's way already. Libya redux in full swing, coordinated with what the UN is doing. The timing of these attacks seem fully coordinated with UN efforts to interfere, or rather, to abet the UN. Expect a no-fly zone and NATO dispatching troops to protect the 'protesters' next.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on February 04, 2012, 08:52:48 AM


Russia, China veto UN Security Council resolution on Syria

http://rt.com/news/syria-resolution-veto-russia-china-515/

Published: 04 February, 2012, 21:05


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The United Nations Security Council has just voted on a draft resolution concerning the ongoing violence in Syria.

Of the voting members, Russia and China were the only ones to vote against the draft, but as permanent members of the UNSC they both hold veto power, and the resolution has not been passed as a result.

The news follows days of heated political debates in the UNSC, with many members supporting a Western-backed draft calling for foreign nations to put an end to what some called the “Syrian killing machine.”

Russia and China were the only permanent Security Council members opposing the draft, reminding others that it was not their place to intervene in another country's domestic affairs.

Russia's UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said earlier that any proposals including an arms embargo or the demand for Assad’s resignation would be vetoed. Though the draft in question did not contain either point, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said the resolution still had major problems.

Lavrov told an audience at the Munich Security Conference that there are too few demands being placed on Syria's armed opposition; also, the resolution could cause affect the outcome of political dialogue between the conflicting sides.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on February 04, 2012, 08:59:16 AM
Good news from Russia & China.

Also, all these supposed casualty figures are ramped up to make it look like the Syrian army is massacring it's own people...Just like the US ramped down the actual casualty figures from Iraq.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on February 04, 2012, 10:44:20 AM
Good news from Russia & China.

Also, all these supposed casualty figures are ramped up to make it look like the Syrian army is massacring it's own people...Just like the US ramped down the actual casualty figures from Iraq.

It's bad news for all because our nutty Jews running foreign policy don't know when to stop even after Russia and China have drawn a line in the sand.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 04, 2012, 11:44:00 AM
It's bad news for all because our nutty Jews running foreign policy don't know when to stop even after Russia and China have drawn a line in the sand.

It would have been better to have this resolution pass? Seems to me that this is far better than Russia and China abstaining, as they did on the Libya resolution. Let's hope this pulls the Jews up short. Of course the MSM whores will make hay out of this by telling us all that China and Russia are the new 'threat' to world peace. The Jews have a persistent habit of labeling the opposition with the crimes they themselves commit.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on February 04, 2012, 02:46:21 PM
It would have been better to have this resolution pass? Seems to me that this is far better than Russia and China abstaining, as they did on the Libya resolution. Let's hope this pulls the Jews up short. Of course the MSM whores will make hay out of this by telling us all that China and Russia are the new 'threat' to world peace. The Jews have a persistent habit of labeling the opposition with the crimes they themselves commit.

Well, we knew the showdown would be coming at some point. If it's now it's now.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 04, 2012, 04:53:49 PM
Well, we knew the showdown would be coming at some point. If it's now it's now.

Yeah, it has an air of inevitability to it all. The Jews know that they haven't much longer. The sheep are stirring and if they awake their game will be in the spotlight. If...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: dean_saor on February 05, 2012, 10:22:58 AM
That would figure, LW.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 05, 2012, 10:40:38 AM
Syria, now fertile soil for US war?

Sun Feb 5, 2012 6:47PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225084.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225084.html)

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A handout picture shows militants with the rebel Free Syrian Army.

A US-NATO led intervention, which would inevitably involve Israel, is already on the drawing board of the Pentagon."

Political analyst Michel Chossudovsky

A political analyst says the United States and NATO are preparing the grounds for a military intervention in Syria under the pretext of "humanitarian grounds."

"A US-NATO led intervention, which would inevitably involve Israel, is already on the drawing board of the Pentagon," Michel Chossudovsky wrote in an article published on Global Research.

The author said a report conducted by the Arab League observer mission in Syria dispelled the mainstream media lies and fabrications, used by Washington to push for "regime change" in the country.

"[The Arab League mission] was also pressured into upholding the lies and fabrications of the mainstream media, which have been used to demonize the government of Bashar al-Assad," Chossudovsky said.

Chossudovsky resembled the situation in Syria to Libya as in both cases armed terrorists supported by British and French Special Forces and said the armed Free Syrian Army is made up of Salafists and al-Qaeda affiliated militia covertly supported by Turkey, Israel and Saudi Arabia.

The analyst concluded that US Ambassador Robert Stephen Ford, who arrived in Damascus in January 2011, played a central role in setting the stage for an "armed insurrection in Syria."

"Ford's mandate in Damascus is… promoting covertly the development of an armed insurrection. In this context, the killings of civilians perpetrated by armed gangs (supported covertly by the Western military alliance) are casually blamed on the Syrian government, thereby upholding the US-NATO mandate to intervene on humanitarian grounds," he said.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: jacob gold on February 05, 2012, 01:15:32 PM
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Wow ... I wonder who is behind those masks??
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on February 05, 2012, 01:37:18 PM
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Wow ... I wonder who is behind those masks??


At least they're not stupid enough to wear a gold chain with a star of David.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 06, 2012, 09:43:42 AM
US closes embassy in Syria, UK recalls ambassador

Published: 06 February, 2012, 17:55
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-obama-605/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-obama-605/)

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UK foreign secretary William Hague speaking in Parliament on Monday

The United States has shut down its embassy in Syria. The announcement comes amid mounting reports of lethal government attacks. The UK has followed the suit, summoning their ambassador from Damascus.

UK Foreign Secretary William Hague says the British ambassador has been recalled from Syria for consultations. The Secretary has also summoned Syria's representative in London to the Foreign Office so that he could express his "abhorrence" at the violence in the Arab country.

Hague accused China and Russia of "betraying the Syrian people,” saying their blocking a UN resolution on Syria was a "grave error." The UK Foreign Secretary pledged to increase pressure on the Syrian government through the UN and other bodies.

"This is a doomed regime as well as a murdering regime," Hague told British lawmakers on Monday. "There is no way it can recover its credibility internationally."

Russia says the West is overreacting to the veto Moscow and Beijing used in the UN to block the resolution on Syria, which the two countries perceive as unbalanced. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov called such remarks “almost hysterical.”

Earlier, officials said US Ambassador Robert Ford and other diplomats had left Syria on Monday. However, their departure did not come out of the blue. In January, Washington warned it might close its embassy in Damascus, citing concerns over staff safety.

On Monday, the Syrian opposition reported new assaults from government forces, claiming 50 had been killed in Homs city alone. The government, however, denies the accusations, saying the attacks were staged.

US President Barack Obama has said the ongoing conflict in Syria should be resolved without foreign military interference.

Obama said he believed a solution for Syria could be found through negotiations, adding that not every situation allows for the type of military action taken in Libya.

This weekend an American-backed UN Security Council resolution on Syria was vetoed by Russia and China, with both countries citing its unbalanced approach to the Syrian government and the opposition. Russia’s envoy to the UN also said that the draft did not reflect Russia’s proposals on Syria.

LW - Tick-tock...
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 06, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
US scenario in Syria: Turkish incursion, Israeli invasion

Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:14PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225325.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225325.html)

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Supporters of Syria's President Bashar al-Assad (portraits) attend a rally in central Damascus on February 5, 2012.

Informed sources have uncovered a US plot entailing a Turkish incursion and a full-scale Israeli strike to overthrow the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad

The sources said aspects of the plan such as rejecting calls by Damascus for an Arab League meeting over the crisis in the country, recognizing of the Syrian opposition as the “legitimate” government of the country and granting them offices in Turkey to work against the Syrian government, have already been carried out.

As part of the plan, Syrian embassies and consulates would be attacked in several countries and the diplomatic offices would be used as bases to inflict heavy blows on the Syrian government.

According to the sources, the other parts of the US plot which are in process or expected to happen in the near future include:

Firstly the Syrian government will be demonized as a war criminal and its case will be taken to The Hague and international human rights bodies.

Washington will then task Turkey with sending troops across the border into Syria to incite internal friction and civil war within the country by arming Syrian civilians and the opposition against the government.

In the next step, Washington will arm Wahhabi fighters and members of the Fath al-Islam in Tripoli, supported by the Qatari army and Libyan fighters, and order them to attack Syrian border villages.

Israel will jump into the fray by expressing readiness to carry out military operations against Syria. Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman recently announced he would be visiting the US next week. He is expected to meet with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, US senators and other senior officials.

Officials close to Lieberman were quoted by Israel sources as saying that the he will ask the US government to increase international pressure against Syria, urging Washington to go beyond sanctions in line with efforts to overthrow the Syrian government.

Jordan, another Syrian neighbor, will also announce its readiness for military intervention in Syria upon receiving the US green light order.

Al-Qaeda militants stationed near the Iraqi-Syrian borders will also start operations inside Syria after receiving a US-Qatari order.

Syrian Television channels will then be removed from Nilesat and Arabsat satellites to prevent the Syrian government form airing its side of the developments.

New Syrian passports will be issued and Syrians who do not obtain the new document will not be allowed into Western and Arab countries.

One necessary condition for the success of the plot to topple the Syrian regime, according to the informed sources, will be the defection of Syrian armed forces and the prime factor in the conspiracy will be the assassination of the Syrian president.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 06, 2012, 10:43:04 AM
Britain making war case against Syria

Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:8PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225328.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225328.html)

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British Foreign Secretary William Hague used a parliamentary debate on Monday to launch a Libyan-like scenario against yet another sovereign nation of the international community.

Hague told the House of Commons that the “whole House will be appalled by the bloodshed and repression in Syria which continues at this very moment”, adding that “over the last 11 months more than 6,000 people have been killed”.

How the warmonger foreign secretary of Britain has counted the alleged number of death toll in Syria is a matter, which needs to be answered by official Syrian sources.

But, what he claims and the picture he is painting of the situation in Syria is so much like what happened when the warmonger Hague was using the same rhetoric to compel the House to vote for the UK government’s sinister campaign to launch an attack on Libya, where hundreds of civilians lost their lives to the NATO bombardment campaign.

Hague told the MPs that “the Syrian regime has deployed snipers, tanks, artillery and mortars against civilian protestors and population centers, particularly in the cities of Homs, Idlib, Hama and Deraa”.

But he did not refer to thousands of Syrians who came out onto the streets across the country on the same day to oppose any Western military intervention in their country and in support for the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

Hague alleged that “thousands of Syrians have endured imprisonment, torture and sexual violence - including instances of the alleged rape of children - and the humanitarian position is deteriorating”.

However, he did not tell the parliament that how he has witnessed these particular offences which, he is accusing a sovereign government of doing them.

Referring to a draft resolution at the UN Security Council, which was vetoed by both China and Russia, the two veto-wielding powers at the Council, Hague said “there was nothing in this draft resolution that could not be supported by any country seeking a peaceful end to the tragedy unfolding in Syria”.

This is while that Moscow's envoy to the European Union, Vladimir Chizhov, had earlier said “there was no chance the Western-Arab draft text could be accepted unless it precisely rejected armed intervention”.

The draft "is missing the most important thing: a clear clause ruling out the possibility that the resolution could be used to justify military intervention in Syrian affairs from outside. For this reason I see no chance this draft could be adopted," said Chizhov, Russia's envoy to the European Union.

The UK’s sabre-rattling against Syria comes at a time when the country is nearly bankrupt, with a £10 billion black hole in its defense budget.

Last year, the Ministry of Defense (MoD) authorities estimated that the military would need at least £10 billion in the coming years to be able to endure consecutive wars and the unforeseen events, The Daily Telegraph reported.

The financial “mismatch” is larger than all the defense cuts announced in 2010's Spending Review, the report said.

Britain had to cut its 2011’s £33.8 billion defense budget by 8 percent over four years.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 08, 2012, 07:50:18 AM
Death and diplomacy: Homs on the brink

Published: 08 February, 2012, 16:19
Edited: 08 February, 2012, 19:51
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-opposition-controversy-homs-785/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-opposition-controversy-homs-785/)


An image grab taken from a video uploaded on YouTube on
February 6, 2012 shows what was described as shelling on the
Baba Amro district of the restive city of Homs in central Syria
(AFP Photo / Youtube)


Homs is now the physical and political frontline of the unrest engulfing Syria. Heavy fighting continues for the fifth straight day in the rebel stronghold city, 165 kilometers north of Damascus.

The rebel opposition is imploring the international community to intervene and displace President Assad, despite his commitment to Russian FM Lavrov to engage the opposition in talks to resolve the conflict.

Contradicting reports are coming from Free Syrian Army and Govt sources, with little verification from either side. The opposition claims 85 have died in the last 24 hours in Syria, 45 of them in Homs. There are also reports 20 premature babies died when electricity to a hospital was blacked out.

The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights alleges dozens were killed in the shelling of Homs neighborhoods over the last few days. The opposition blames the army for using tanks, mortars and heavy machine-guns.

Syrian Special Forces also report a major offensive success against militants occupying residential quarters in Homs and the Syrian Ministry of the Interior reports dozens of militants killed and hundreds others arrested after surrendering

The army has seized large caches of arms, including machine-guns and grenade launchers, night-vision goggles and outfits.

The military insists militants were given a chance to surrender, but instead the gangs imposed a regime of terror on Homs civilians, attacking and murdering citizens. They claim they responded to repeated calls from the local population for help.

­RT spoke to locally-based journalist Diana Nemeh, who says the information coming from Homs is difficult to verify.

“It is really hard to determine what’s going on on the ground there because of safety issues,” she said, adding that it is also hard to “confirm the definite numbers of people dead.”

While activists say that Assad’s government has “basically bombed some parts of the city, the government has completely refuted any type of involvement. They blame it on the terrorist groups,” she said.
Isolation

The 6 members of the Arab League's Gulf Co-operation Council expelled their respective Syrian ambassadors and withdrew their diplomats from Damascus, while France, Spain, Italy and Holland also recalled their ambassadors. The US also closed its diplomatic mission in Syria altogether.

On Wednesday, the opposition called for a no-fly zone over Syria and asked for financial support from Arab nations. They addressed businessmen seeking finance to fund their ongoing fight against Assad’s regime

While encountering problems on the front, armed opposition says Bashar Assad would only understand a no-fly zone being imposed over his country as a clear signal to stop the bloodshed.

Syrian National Council’s Radwan Ziadeh claimed a dialogue with the Assad regime is impossible. “We will not accept any dialogue with Bashar al-Assad,” he said, “Without international intervention Bashar al-Assad will not stop the killings. Without such kind of action enforcing no-fly zone in Syria, I don't think that Bashar al-Assad will understand the message and stop the violence.”

Ziadeh said they expected the Russian delegation in Syria to discuss ways to help President Assad to step down. But instead“what's coming out from the visit, it is mainly about getting more financial aid to Bashar al-Assad to continue killing Syrian people.”
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 08, 2012, 08:28:31 AM
Syria: White House preaches peace as Pentagon preps for war

Published: 08 February, 2012, 17:23
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-pentagon-us-obama-781/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-pentagon-us-obama-781/)

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A US Marine Corps F-35 Lightening II multirole fighter jet is escorted
by two USMC F-18 Hornets as it flies towards Eglin Air Force Base, Florida in this
U.S. Air Force handout photo dated January 11, 2012
(Reuters / DoD / U.S. Air Force / Staff Sgt. Joely Santiago / Handout)


The White House is saying “no” to arming opposition and other military involvement in the Syrian conflict – for the moment. Pentagon and US Central Command launched a review of US military capabilities in case that “no” turns a “yes.”

­The backdoor for military action was ajar with State Department, spokesman Victoria Nuland saying that US never takes any option off the table, even though they “don't think more arms into Syria is the answer." It appears the Pentagon has a similar view, as it has reportedly launched a full-scale review of its available military might.

Two senior administration officials told CNN that “options are being prepared in the event President Barack Obama was to call for them.” Support for opposition groups and outright military strikes are among the options being looked at.

This type of planning exercise is typical for the Pentagon, which would not want to be in the position of not having options for the president, if and when they are asked for, both officials told CNN. One of them called the effort a “scoping exercise,” with Pentagon looking into what capabilities are available given other US military commitments in the region. 

US President Barack Obama said in an interview Sunday that he believes it is possible to resolve the conflict peacefully “without recourse to outside military intervention.” However, some congressional lawmakers, including Arizona's Republican Senator John McCain, called for the US to explore the prospect of arming opposition forces in Syria.

"We should start considering options, arming the opposition," McCain said. "The bloodletting has got to stop."

The US and other Western powers are wary of engaging closely with would-be rebel forces without the legal protection of UN resolution, similar to the one that was passed in the case of Libya. But in the wake of Russia and China vetoing a Security Council resolution calling for Syrian President Bashar Assad to step down, they are forced to look for other solutions.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has called Sunday for "friends of democratic Syria" to unite and rally against Assad's regime. She has also vowed to strengthen existing sanctions against the Syrian regime and seek further ones to dry up funding and arms shipments.

"We will work to seek regional and national sanctions against Syria. They will be implemented to the fullest to dry up the sources of funding and the arms shipments that are keeping the regime's war machine going," Clinton told journalists. “We will work with the friends of a democratic Syria around the world to support the opposition’s peaceful political plans for change.”

Clinton did not specify who those “friends of a democratic Syria” are, but it could be that the United States proceeds to form a group of like-minded nations to coordinate assistance to the Syrian opposition.

LW - No need to consult Congress for a declaration of war when Obama needs only to call for it. Hell, they are already at it. The ONLY door to war is the backdoor, which should be abundantly clear to the astute.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on February 08, 2012, 11:16:00 AM
Syrian 'Non-Violent' Opposition


http://www.youtube.com/v/3z3t-ePUNLA?version

Snipers (obviously not Syrian Army) firing at civilians

http://www.youtube.com/v/amHAQoDq4uY?versio

Syrian police killed by opposition...

http://www.youtube.com/v/-2jk_9ETl6o?version

Webster Tarpley


http://www.youtube.com/v/pSRPDLOhLPs?version
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 08, 2012, 01:30:09 PM
‘CIA, MI6 conduct intel ops in Syria’

Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:56PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225666.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225666.html)

An analyst reveals the United States and Britain planned a secretive "regime change" in Syria in the autumn of 1957 through intelligence operations and sabotage.

"Once a political decision has been reached to proceed with internal disturbances in Syria, CIA is prepared, and Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) will attempt to mount minor sabotage and coup de main (sic) incidents within Syria, working through contacts with individuals," said a US-UK leaked intelligence document.

In her new article, political analyst Felicity Arbuthnot disclosed the document, which said "incidents should not be concentrated in Damascus" and that a "necessary degree of fear," "frontier incidents" and "border clashes" would "provide a pretext for intervention... the CIA and SIS [MI6 should use… capabilities in both psychological and action fields to augment tension."

Arbuthnot wrote that 1957 plans between then UK Prime Minister Harold Macmillan and then US President Dwight Eisenhower endorsed "a CIA-MI6 plan to stage fake border incidents as an excuse for an invasion (of Syria) by Syria’s pro-Western neighbors."

The author suggests that the old document indicates that the current unrest in Syria maybe the result of the direct involvement of Western spy agencies.

Arbuthnot said the Eisenhower-Macmillan plan was for funding of the “Free Syria Committee” and “arming of political factions with paramilitary or other actionist capabilities” within Syria.

She added that CIA and MI6 planned to foment internal unrest and replace the Ba’ath-Communist-leaning government with a Western user-friendly one.

Washington has tried to impose a resolution against Syria to repeat Libya’s war against the government of Bashar al-Assad, but Russia and China have so far vetoed the resolution.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 08, 2012, 01:32:55 PM
Russia warns France over unilateral action against Syria

Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:31PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225697.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225697.html)

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Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in the Kremlin on February 8, 2012.

Russia has warned France against taking any unilateral action against Syria, adding that the international community's position on the Middle Eastern country had to be objective and balanced.

During a telephone conversation on Wednesday, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev told French President Nicolas Sarkozy that any ‘hasty and unilateral steps’ regarding the unrest in Syria had to be avoided, the Kremlin said in a statement.

"The president of France has been informed about Russian efforts aimed at an urgent cessation of any violence in Syria through the launch of all-encompassing dialogue between conflicting parties," said Medvedev’s office.

"At the request of Mr. Sarkozy, the Russian president let him know the results of the talks" between Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, the office revealed.

Russia has cautioned against foreign interference in Syria and says that the Syrians themselves had to be allowed to decide on their own fate.

Lavrov visited Syria on Tuesday, days after Russia and China vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution against the Middle Eastern country for the second time. Moscow said the resolution, which had called on Assad to step down would have forced regime change on Syria.

The presidential office added that Moscow was prepared to continue acting as a mediator in the Syria affair.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in favor of Assad. Hundreds of people, including many members of the Syrian security forces, have been killed during the violence.

Damascus blames ‘outlaws, saboteurs, and armed terrorist groups’ for the violence, insisting that it is being orchestrated from abroad. However, the West and the Syrian opposition accuse the government of killing the protesters.

The Syrian government has repeatedly accused several Western and Arab states of fueling the unrest in Syria by providing armed gangs in the country with weapons and financial resources as a means of inciting civil war and toppling the government.

Damascus has also repeatedly said that negotiation was the only way to end the violence. Opposition groups, however, have rejected the proposal for talks.

LW - That should go over well with the Peacock of Paris.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 09, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
British troops involved in Homs operation

Thu Feb 9, 2012 1:36PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225801.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225801.html)

MI6, has established four centers of operation in the city with the troops on the ground paving the way for an undercover Turkish military incursion into Syria.

An intelligence report has revealed that British and Qatari troops are leading armed terror gangs in the Syrian city of Homs in their bloody battle against civilians and the Syrian army forces.

According to the Israeli website, debkafile, which is known for links to intelligence sources, “British and Qatari troops are directing rebel ammunition deliveries and tactics in the bloody battle for Homs”.

The report said that Britain’s foreign spying apparatus, MI6, has established four centers of operation in the city with the troops on the ground paving the way for an undercover Turkish military incursion into Syria.

The debkafile site said the presence of British and Qatari troops in Homs topped the agenda of Tuesday’s talks between President Assad government’s officials and head of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service Mikhail Fradkov.

Qatar makes little secret of supporting the Syrian opposition with cash, arms and political support.

But, the British new adventurism in Syria comes as a parliamentary report has warned that the British government will face huge financial problems if the military resolve to launch a military campaign on the same scale as the operation in Libya.

In 2011 Britain and France became part of NATO-led operations targeting Gaddafi regime in Libya.

According to official reports, Britain spent about €254mln on the military campaign in Libya. However, a publication in The Guardian at the end of last year contends that the Libyan campaign cost British taxpayers 1.75 billion pounds. This exceeds the originally planned sum by nearly sevenfold.

Given the situation, the British MPs have warned the government of David Cameron that it will face “difficult decisions” if it chooses to engage in yet another campaign. Nearly two billion pounds spent over the six months of the campaign in Libya could be more than the military can handle.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 09, 2012, 08:45:00 AM
Comdr. of Syria's al-Farouq rebels killed

Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:28PM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225813.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225813.html)

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A major commander of Syria’s al-Farouq militant group, Abdul Razzaq Talas

A major commander of Syria’s al-Farouq militant group has been killed by government forces in the western city of Homs as fighting between the two sides intensifies there.

Abdul Razzaq Talas, along with an assistant of his, were killed on Thursday in heavy clashes with the Syrian armed forces.

Once a high-ranking officer, Talas defected from the Syrian army late last year and his so-called al-Farouq militant group is blamed for terrorist attacks against civilians and security and military forces in Syria.

In the last days, violence has been raging in Homs, where Syrian media say over 100 troops have been killed in fighting with armed militants.

The army has, however, managed to take control of several districts and towns in the troubled city.

Meanwhile on Thursday, seven troops were killed and several others injured near the southern town of Daraa when two military buses were ambushed by armed militants.

Damascus says at least 2,000 security forces personnel are among those killed since the violence erupted in the country in March 2011.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 10, 2012, 09:33:04 AM
Blasts bring Aleppo into Syrian fray

Published: 10 February, 2012, 18:46
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-blast-unrest-attack-005/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-blast-unrest-attack-005/)

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Syrian workers inspect the site of an explosion outside a
military security building, one of two sites of bomb blasts in Syria's
northern city of Aleppo. (Reuters / Sana Sana)


Two explosions have rocked the northern Syrian city of Aleppo, killing 28 people and injuring a further 235, with conflicting reports on the Free Syrian Army’s involvement in the attacks.

Syrian state news said that two cars backed with explosives targeted a branch of military intelligence and a security forces base on Friday morning.

Television news broadcast graphic images following the attacks numbering civilians as well as members of security forces among the dead. A Syrian TV reporter on the scene said that the explosion targeting the military intelligence compound detonated near a park where children had gathered to enjoy the warm weather.

The State channel laid the blame at the feet of armed terrorist groups in the city, calling the blasts an attempt to destabilize Syria.

Meanwhile, initial reports following the attack say a spokesperson from the Free Syrian Army claimed responsibility for the attacks. Later statements from the opposition appear to contradict this, accusing Assad’s regime of orchestrating the attacks to discredit the opposition and to side step anti-governmental protests that had been planned for Friday.

The commercial hub of Aleppo has remained relatively untouched by the 11-month uprisings against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, but has seen increasing protests and violence in the last couple of weeks.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 10, 2012, 09:35:48 AM
15,000 elite Iranian special-ops 'head' to Syria

Published: 10 February, 2012, 13:41
Edited: 10 February, 2012, 20:42
source: http://rt.com/news/syria-iran-cooperation-protests-969/ (http://rt.com/news/syria-iran-cooperation-protests-969/)

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AFP Photo / Fars News / Str

The regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria is expecting up to 15,000 Iranian troops to help maintain order in the country’s provinces, a Chinese newspaper reports. Iran has yet to confirm or deny the news.

According to the central Chinese daily Renmin Ribao, the Iranian special task troops are due to be deployed in Syria’s key provinces.

The Syrian opposition announced earlier that commander of Iran’s elite Quds Force, Qassem Suleimani, advises the Syrian authorities on quashing the country’s opposition movement, the Telegraph newspaper reports.

According to the Israeli daily Haaretz, the Quds Force includes 15,000 elite soldiers, who operated in Iraq and other wars on foreign soil. The Quds is reportedly in charge of training and funding Hezbollah.     

The number of advisers and troops from the Quds in Syria could reach up to high hundreds or low thousands, the Telegraph reports. The newspaper said that they have set up at least one military base near the capital Damascus.

Official Tehran has neither confirmed nor refuted the news of its military participation in Syria. However, according to the head of the country’s state news agency Mehr, it is not in Iran’s plans to send any military contingent to the country.

“As far as I know there is not and will not be any program to dispatch Iranian military troops to Syria,” Reza Moghadasi told in his interview to Voice of Russia radio station.

Seyed Mohammad Marandi from the University of Tehran, speaking to RT regarding the troops, dismissed the news as “basically Western propaganda” and attributed the claims to erroneous information received by the Chinese media.

“Iran has no troops in the country. Iran has never had troops involved in the problems within Syria.”

“Someone in the Chinese media has been receiving information that is completely false,” said Marandi.

He went on to say that the Iranian government supports Assad al-Bashar’s regime, but at the same time emphasized the fact that foreign intervention goes against Iranian policy.

“Iran’s position is based on a moral principal and that is the non-interference of hegemonic powers and the non-interference of neighboring countries in Syrian affairs,” he concluded.

Israeli website debka.com announced earlier that the UK and Qatari forces are involved with the conflict in Syria, directing tactics of the opposition forces in the bloody battle for Homs. According to the website, the presence of the foreign troops topped the agenda of talks Russia's foreign intelligence chief Fradkov and Foreign Minister Lavrov held with Assad’s officials on Tuesday. 

Syrian tanks and troops reportedly massed outside Homs on Friday. A large offensive is expected to hit the city and its neighborhood in the nearest future.

Up to 110 people have reportedly been killed in Homs on Thursday. As of yet, it is impossible to verify the number of casualties.

Konstantin Kosachev, the deputy chairman of the State Duma Foreign Affairs Committee commented that US intervention in Damascus was a precursor to regime change in Iran. He said that after the Syrian government is “forcefully removed” he expected “something similar will start happening in Iran.”

“This is not about democracy in Syria. This is not about any internal developments in this country. This is about Syrian foreign policy because Syria is considered and is, in reality, one of the closest allies of certain countries in the region.” said Kosachev.

He underlined the West’s ulterior motives in supporting a regime change in Syria and the removal of President Bashar al- Assad.

“This is a global game; this is about geo-political and geo-economic interests and unfortunately countries like Syria are being held hostage for the geo-political and geo-economic interests of Western countries.”
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 11, 2012, 02:53:51 AM
Saudi Arabia pushes for new anti-Syria action at UN

Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:0AM GMT
source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/226089.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/226089.html)

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A general view of the United Nations General Assembly

Saudi Arabia is reportedly pushing for a UN resolution against Syria one week after a similar text was vetoed by Russia and China in the United Nation's Security Council (UNSC).

Diplomats say that Saudi Arabia on Friday circulated a new draft resolution at the UN General Assembly, which also calls for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to hand over power to his deputy, a scenario supported by the Arab League.

The Saudi-backed draft urges UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon to appoint a special envoy for Syria, diplomats say.

UN Human Rights Chief Navi Pillay is expected to address the assembly over Syria on Monday when 193-nation body is due to discuss the unrest in the Arab country.

Diplomats say the assembly would not put the resolution to a vote on Monday, but there could be a vote later next week.

Resolutions passed at the General Assembly, unlike those of the UNSC, are not binding.

Syria has rejected the Arab-backed draft as "flagrant interference" in the country's internal affairs and a violation of its sovereignty.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March and many people have lost their lives in the violence.

The West and the Syrian opposition accuse the government of killing protesters. But Damascus blames ''outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups'' for the unrest, insisting that it is being orchestrated from abroad.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on February 11, 2012, 04:58:02 AM

Syria is getting hotter everyday.





Gunmen assassinate Syrian army general in Damascus


Updated 45m ago

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BEIRUT (AP) – Gunmen assassinated an army general in Damascus on Saturday in the first killing of a high ranking military officer in the Syrian capital since the uprising against President Bashar Assad's regime began in March, the state-run news agency said.

   

AP

In this photo taken Tuesday, Syrian mourners carry the coffin, center, of a man who witnesses say was killed by Syrian government forces shelling in Homs.
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SANA said three gunmen opened fire at Brig. Gen. Issa al-Khouli in the morning as he left his home in the Damascus neighborhood of Rukn-Eddine. Al-Khouli was a doctor and the chief of a military hospital in the capital. No one claimed responsibility for the killing.

The attack indicates that violence in Syria is reaching the tightly controlled capital, which has been relatively quiet compared to other cities. Such assassinations are not uncommon outside Damascus and army officers have been killed in the past, mostly in the restive provinces of Homs and Idlib.

The U.N. estimates that 5,400 people have been killed in Syria since the uprising began in March. But that figure is from January, when the U.N. stopped counting because the chaos in the country has made it all but impossible to check the figures.

The Assad regime says terrorists acting out a foreign conspiracy to destabilize the country are behind the uprising, not people seeking to transform the authoritarian regime. The Syrian government says more than 2,000 soldiers and police officers have been killed by terrorists since March.

Also Saturday, Syrian troops shelled the Baba Amr district in the central city of Homs, killing at least four people, according to the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. Another activist group, the Local Coordination Committees said 15 people were killed in Baba Amr on Saturday.

Syrian troops have been trying to regain control of areas in Homs since last Saturday when they started a major offensive on rebel-held areas. Activists say more than 400 people have been killed in Homs since then.

The Observatory also reported a rare clash between troops and defectors late Friday in the northern Damascus neighborhood of Qaboun but had no details. It said troops shot dead an activist in the area.

The violence came a day after two suicide car bombers struck security compounds in the northern city of Aleppo, killing 28 people. The blasts were the first significant violence in an industrial center that has largely stood by Assad during the 11-month uprising against his rule.

Anti-Assad activists denied any involvement and accused the regime of setting off Friday's blasts to smear the opposition as government forces pummel rebels in one of their main strongholds, Homs. State media touted the bombings as proof the regime faces a campaign by terrorists.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-02-11/syria-violence/53046722/1
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 11, 2012, 08:33:35 AM
Syria is getting hotter everyday.

Syria is the current target. Iran is still being prepared. Lebanon will be steamrolled. The path from the Mediterranean to Iran will be clear.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: laconas on February 11, 2012, 08:37:58 AM

For a few days there I thought Russia had slowed down the take-over. I guess not.
Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: FrankDialogue on February 11, 2012, 08:51:23 AM
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Russia accuses West of arming Syrian rebels

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02/10/2012 17:51

Without specifying which nations he is accusing, Moscow's deputy FM says Western countries are arming and advising rebels, says Russia will take "drastic measures" if West keeps pushing issue at UN Security Council.


MOSCOW - Russia said on Friday that the West was stoking the conflict in Syria by sending weapons to the opponents of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

In an attempt to deflect criticism of Russia for blocking a UN Security Council resolution urging Assad to give up power, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said Western states were stirring up trouble in Syria, where Assad has pursued a violent crackdown since March on protests against his 11-year rule.

"Western states inciting Syrian opposition to uncompromising actions, as well as those sending arms to them, giving them advice and direction, are participating in the process of fomenting the crisis," Itar-Tass news agency quoted Ryabkov as saying.

He did not specify which nations were arming Syrian rebels.

On Sunday Russia and China vetoed a Western-Arab draft UN resolution that called on Assad to quit. That drew US and European criticism which Russia dismissed as hysterical.

Ryabkov, speaking on a visit to Colombia, said Russia would take "drastic measures" if the West kept trying to intervene in Syria's internal affairs through the Security Council.

"The UN council is not a tool for intervention in internal affairs and is not the agency to decide which government is to be next in one country or another," Ryabkov said. "If our foreign partners don't understand that, we will have to use drastic measures to return them to real grounds."

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who is almost certain to win a presidential election in March, warned the West not to meddle in the affairs of Syria, or those of Russia.

Russia's lower house of parliament adopted a statement on Friday condemning the West for "intervening in other states' affairs and imposing outside decisions on them".

Some lawmakers in the assembly, which is controlled by Putin's ruling party, called for firmer resistance to the West.

"There is criticism in the Duma that Russia's position on Syria is not strong enough. They say Russia should press its point harder," Alexei Pushkov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Foreign Affairs, told Reuters.
 

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Title: - Destabilizing Syria
Post by: Rudi Jan on February 11, 2012, 09:03:49 AM
"The UN council is not a tool for intervention in internal affairs and is not the agency to decide which government is to be next in one country or another," Ryabkov said. "If our foreign partners don't understand that, we will have to use drastic measures to return them to real grounds."

Oh? What the hell else was the UN set up to do? Oh yeah... the humanitarians.

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"There is criticism in the Duma that Russia's position on Syria is not strong enough. They say Russia should press its point harder," Alexei Pushkov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Foreign Affairs, told Reuters.

That criticism is hardly confined to the Duma.
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Post by: jacob gold on February 11, 2012, 11:27:30 AM
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Car bombs kill 28 in Syria's Aleppo as tanks hit Homs

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Twin car bombs targeting security posts in Syria's second city of Aleppo killed at least 28 people, state media said, with the rebels accusing the regime of launching the attacks as a diversion.

The explosions Friday came as tank-backed troops advanced on pockets of resistance in the besieged protest hub of Homs, and as heavy security deployments nationwide thwarted planned protests against regime ally Russia.

The powerful mid-morning blasts in the northern commercial hub also wounded 235 people, said state television, which broadcast gruesome footage.

Mangled bodies were shown in pools of blood  outside rows of shattered buildings and piles of rubble strewn across a broad avenue.

State television called the bombings, the first in Aleppo since the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad's regime erupted almost a year ago, the work of "armed terrorist gangs."

It said a "suicide bomber in a car packed with explosives" had attacked a police station, flattening a nearby food distribution centre. The second targeted an intelligence base.

The rebel Free Syrian Army blamed the government itself for the attacks.

"This criminal regime is... carrying out bomb attacks in Aleppo to steer attention away from what it is doing in Homs, Zabadani and elsewhere," its spokesman, Colonel Maher Nouaimi, told AFP in a telephone interview.

United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said he "firmly condemns" the bombings in Aleppo.

Ban "extends his sympathy and condolences to the bereaved families of the victims as well as to the government and people of Syria," a statement from his spokesman read.

"The secretary-general reiterates that all violence is unacceptable and must cease immediately from all sides."

State television showed emergency workers holding body parts, including hands, feet and a torso.  Soldiers were among the casualties, it said.

"The number of casualties from the two car bombs in Aleppo has risen to 28 dead and 235 wounded," said the health ministry. Among the dead were soldiers and civilians, including children.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said at least 30 people were killed in the Aleppo blasts.

Several people interviewed on television denounced Turkey and Qatar for not standing by the regime as it seeks to put down the revolt.

"Is this the freedom they want?" asked one angry looking man, holding up a severed arm and referring to those leading the protest movement.

Syria blamed the blasts on "terrorists" backed by Arab and Western nations, in a letter sent to the UN secretary general, the UN Security Council, the Arab League and other organisations.

"Certain countries in the region are behind a propaganda campaign against Syria and are harbouring armed terrorists for so-called humanitarian reasons," it wrote, the official SANA state news agency reported.

Aleppo has been largely spared the unrest that has rocked the country since mid-March and killed more than 6,000 people, say rights groups.

In central Syria, tanks stormed the Inshaat district in Homs overnight as troops launched a house-to-house sweep to crush regime opponents, the Observatory's Rami Abdel Rahman said.

Inshaat is next to Baba Amr district, which has been subjected to a withering assault by regime forces since Saturday that has killed more than 450 people, activists say.

In addition to the victims of the attacks in Aleppo, the Observatory said another 44 people were killed across Syria on Friday -- 28 civilians, nine soldiers and seven deserters.

Security forces deployed heavily outside mosques nationwide, firing on worshippers in some areas to prevent protests denouncing Russia's steadfast support for the Assad regime, activists said.

"Demonstrations broke out in various parts of the country, but they were small in numbers because of the heavy deployment of army and security forces as well as the cold weather," said Abdel Rahman.

Internet-based activists had urged protests under the banner of "Russia is killing our children."

But Moscow said Syria's opposition "bears full responsibility" for the ongoing violence, while accusing the West of pushing regime opponents into armed conflict.

Arab and Western governments have so far resisted mounting calls for military aid to the outgunned and outnumbered rebels in Syria.

The US ambassador to Syria, Robert Ford, posted declassified photographs on his Facebook site that Washington said shows the army attacking a civilian area of Homs.

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said the "declassified US national imagery" shows the destruction of Homs.

She said Ford, who left Damascus when the US embassy was closed for security reasons on Monday, would continue to use Facebook to "talk to the Syrian people on a regular basis, along with his Twitter feed."

EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said the world had to stand united in demanding a halt to the violence and for Assad to step down, saying she was appalled by reports of "the brutal attacks by the Syrian armed forces in Homs."

Saudi King Abdullah said world confidence in the United Nations had been "shaken" after Russia and China vetoed a resolution condemning the Assad regime's crackdown.

The United States said Friday it would raise concerns about Syria during a closely watched visit by China's likely next leader, Vice President Xi Jinping, next week.

In Geneva, the UN rights office said Syrian officials responsible for carrying out or ordering crimes against humanity should face prosecution by the International Criminal Court.


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Syria says it the Jews, and the mysterious 'Freedom fighters' say it's Syria. And then there is the 'Media reported' slaughter, where Assad's tanks are firing into kindergardens.

Tick tick tick   .... Not long before a nuke goes off in america.
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It's one thing to 'Stone their women' but why is Syria's Assad deliberately killing children. I haven't seen brutality like this since the Nazis gassed 1.3 million jewish children.
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Post by: Spahi on February 11, 2012, 12:23:40 PM
Internet-based activists had urged protests under the banner of "Russia is killing our children."

But Moscow said Syria's opposition "bears full responsibility" for the ongoing violence, while accusing the West of pushing regime opponents into armed conflict.

I have to wonder if Russia will protect Syria with further escalation. Surely the naval base is important enough?
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Post by: jacob gold on February 11, 2012, 03:36:36 PM
Jews have run Russia since 1918 (bolshevik revolution). If real white russians were running the country then you would see jews hanging from every lamp post
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Post by: Rudi Jan on February 12, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
Arab League urges UN to send troops into Syria

Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:20PM GMT
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The Arab League foreign ministers attend a meeting on Syria in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, on February 12, 2012.

The Arab League has drafted a resolution on Syria that calls on the United Nations Security Council to send a joint UN-Arab League force into the country.

Arab League officials said on Sunday the draft also calls for a halt to “all forms of diplomatic cooperation” with Syria and “tighter economic sanctions” against Damascus.

The foreign ministers of the Arab organization met in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, on Sunday to discuss the situation in Syria.

According to the draft resolution, the Arab League will “open communication channels with the Syrian opposition.”

Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal said during the Sunday meeting the Arab League should “give all forms of support” to the opposition.

Meanwhile, France and the United States have proposed a plan to hold a meeting of the so-called “Friends of Syria” group in Tunisia on February 24.

Tunisian Foreign Minister Rafik Ben Abdessalam announced on Sunday Tunis would host the meeting. The new Arab League draft resolution has welcomed the move.

The Arab League also discussed the future of its observer mission in Syria on Sunday.

On January 28, Arab League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi said in a statement the organization has decided to “immediately stop the work of the Arab League's mission to Syria” due to “the critical deterioration of the situation” in the country.

The observer mission, headed by Sudanese General Mohammed Ahmed Mustafa al-Dabi, had been in Syria since December 26, 2011.

Arab League officials said on Sunday Dabi has resigned and that Nabil al-Arabi has proposed former Jordanian Foreign Minister Abdul Illah al-Khatib as the new head of the mission.

Dabi said he had performed his job “with full integrity and transparency” but he would not “work here again.”

The Arab League meeting in Cairo comes two days after Syrian officials said 28 people were killed and dozens of others injured in two car bombings at security compounds in the northwestern city of Aleppo on Friday.

On Saturday, Syrian state media said an armed “terrorist group” assassinated Brigadier General Issa al-Khawli, who was also the director of Hamish hospital, outside his home in the Ruknaddin district of the capital Damascus.

The West and the Syrian opposition accuse the government of being behind the months-long unrest, but Damascus says “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” are responsible for the turmoil, which it says is being orchestrated from abroad.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on February 12, 2012, 11:02:39 AM
Up in arms: ‘Iraqi Jihadists and weapons flow to Syria’

Published: 12 February, 2012, 00:06
Edited: 12 February, 2012, 14:32
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Jihadists are flocking to Syria from neighboring Iraq and weaponry is being sent across the border to support anti-Assad movement in the country, Iraqi Deputy Interior Minister Adnan al-Assadi has announced.

In his interview to AFP news agency, Adnan al-Assadi said that Iraqi authorities have intelligence information that a “number of Iraqi Jihadists” had gone to Syria to take part in the protest movement.

He added that his country also sees the major outflow of weapons towards its neighbor. A strong indicator of weapons smuggling is, according to the deputy minister, the sudden and steep hike in prices on the Iraqi side of the border.

“The weapons are transported from Baghdad to Nineveh province, and the prices of weapons in Mosul [city] are higher now because they are being sent to the opposition in Syria,” said Adnan al-Assadi. The official added that in the province bordering Syria, the price of a Kalashnikov assault rifle has recently risen from between $100 and $200 up to $1,500.

"The weapons are being smuggled from Mosul through the Rabia crossing to Syria, as members of the same families live on both sides of the border," Adnan al-Assadi added. There is also some smuggling ongoing through a crossing near the Syrian city of Abu Kamal, he claims.

The Syrian government has long claimed that the opposition was being largely helped by foreigners.

In a recent development, Al-Qaeda has voiced its support to the Syrian opposition, urging Muslims across the Middle East to aid the Syrian uprising.

According to The Guardian, Turkey comes as probably “the most significant outside player” against the current regime in Syria. The country hosts the opposition Syrian National Council and allows a “safe haven” for the Free Syrian Army. Syrian opposition sources say they receive weapons coming from the territory of Turkey and Jordan, The Washington Times newspaper reports.

The Syrian officials recently handed to another neighbor, Lebanon, a list of individuals allegedly involved in border smuggling of people and weapons “for destructive acts on the territory of Syria”. Syria asked its neighbor to tighten border controls between the two countries.

According to Israeli website depka.com, known for his links with intelligence, UK and Qatari troops are largely involved with the battle for Homs on the side of the opposition. 

Adnan al-Assadi’s statement comes amid increased tensions over the Syrian crisis. On Saturday Syria told Libya and Tunisia to close their embassies in Damascus within 72 hours. The development follows Libya and Tunisia demanding that Syrian diplomats depart.

The United States closed its embassy in Syria on Monday, promising further pressure on Bashar al-Assad to step down. A number of the European countries including the UK, the Netherlands, Italy, France and Spain followed the suit days later. The six member states of the Gulf Cooperation Council also withdrew their ambassadors from the country, expelling the Syrians.

Violence in the Middle Eastern country has been going on for almost a year, with anti-government groups fighting to remove President Bashar al-Assad from power. According to the UN, over 5,000 lives have been lost in the conflict.

Meanwhile, the international community is stepping up pressure for harsher measures against President Assad and his regime. A recent UN draft resolution was vetoed in the Security Council by Russia and China, the two states that oppose foreign intervention into the country. According to Russia, the draft left out sanctions for the country’s opposition. Moscow believes that due to its imbalanced approach, the document could send the wrong signal to the conflicting sides.
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Post by: jacob gold on February 12, 2012, 04:03:01 PM
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Car bombs, assasinations, countless silly rumors ........ this whole plot against Syria is to install a zionist puppet government ..... and then it's on to Iran
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Post by: Rudi Jan on February 13, 2012, 05:19:31 PM
Syria would not send troops to protect protesters at OWS – envoy to UN

Published: 14 February, 2012, 01:16
Edited: 14 February, 2012, 04:32
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Bashar Ja’afari, Syrian envoy to UN

UN is applying double standards towards Syria, the country’s envoy stated while addressing the General Assembly. He said that his country, like any sovereign state, has exclusive responsibility for maintaining security on its national territory.

­“Every sovereign state represented here bears an exclusive right to protect its citizens,” Bashar Ja’afari said, addressing the assembly. “We in Syria could not imagine sending soldiers to defend OWS [Occupy Wall Street] protesters. Neither we nor any other government can imagine sending troops to protect demonstrators in London or Paris.”

According to Navi Pillay, the UN human rights chief, who was speaking at the General Assembly on Monday, the Syrian government’s violent crackdown on civilian protesters indicates crimes against humanity have taken place since last March last year and are continuing. She stated that more than 5,400 people were killed last year, among them civilians as well as military personnel who refused to shoot civilians. She also stated that the death toll and the number of those injured are growing daily.

However, she admitted that it is impossible to get the exact data on those killed because there is “no access to the country.” Pillay said that within the last two months the UN has not been able to update the number of victims due to extreme difficulties in ascertaining the facts. She also noted that the number of attacks by anti-government militants on Syrian forces has increased. With reference to Syrian government data she said that around 2000 military and security forces personnel have been killed during the unrest.

Commenting on a harsh speech by Navi Pillay, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, the leader of the Syrian delegation forecast a gloomy scenario planned by the West for his country. 

“It is known that armed groups are, on a daily basis, committing assassinations against academics, thinkers and intellectuals in all parts of Syria – just as they did in Iraq to destroy the foundation of the state. That is their objective – to push the state towards creative chaos. [In this case] we will have humanitarian corridors because, after all, we have no state; then buffer zones – because there is no state; then a no-fly zone – because there is no state,” said Bashar Ja’afari.

He pointed out  the main reason for the unceasing violence in Syria is the absence of a valid legal international environment and the lack of respect for the territorial integrity of Syria, adding that the provisions of the UN charter are no longer in force.

“Some street names have been changed on Google maps particularly in Homs,” he pointed out. “This is flagrant violation of UN General Assembly resolutions – changing geographic nomenclature. What does Google have to do with the names of streets in Syrian cities?”

­Ja’afari also mentioned several times Syria’s coming under attack from terrorist organizations. He questioned why the General Assembly is blaming Syria for defending itself against those attacks.

­Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said that the US would “intensify” its diplomatic pressure on the Syrian regime to end its campaign of violence. She made the statement after a meeting with Turkish Foreign Minister, Ahmet Davutoglu. Clinton also noted that both countries would play a “very active role in trying to search for solutions.” She came up with an offer to “assist in the investigations” of the bomb attacks on Israeli diplomats’ cars in India and Georgia.

The General Assembly is expected to consider a non-binding resolution similar to the one put to the Security Council, which was vetoed by Russia and China. The plan demands that Assad hands power to his vice president and allows the formation of a unity government to clear the way for elections.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on February 16, 2012, 06:52:44 AM
UN stalemate over Syria resolution

Published: 16 February, 2012, 10:41
Edited: 16 February, 2012, 18:10
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General Assembly to vote over new Syrian resolution. (AFP Photo / Don Emmert)

The UN General Assembly is due to vote on a second draft resolution stipulating the removal of President Assad to end the spiraling violence in Syria. It is the second attempt at passing a resolution after China and Russia vetoed the first document.

The new resolution supports the Arab League initiative to facilitate transition to a democratic government will be put to vote later on Thursday.

Russia objects to the paragraph demanding the resignation of President Assad and wants amendments to the draft calling for the disarmament of opposition groups as well as government forces. Arab delegations have dismissed the Russian amendments as unacceptable, claiming they undermine the draft resolution’s message.

"If some members of the international community demand the change of the regime in Syria as a precondition for talks, this is a road to a full-scale civil war. If we want to stop the bloodshed, we should give up preconditions and demand that all parties without exception stop violence and begin negotiations," said Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov on Wednesday.

Russia and China previously vetoed the Security Council resolution on the grounds that it was unbalanced.

General Assembly resolutions cannot be vetoed, but unlike those of the Security Council they are not legally binding. However, if the resolution is passed it will be a significant blow to the legitimacy of President Assad’s government.

The French government has also put forward a resolution concerning the creation of humanitarian corridors which it will present to the Security Council.

Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad announced on Wednesday that a referendum on a new Syrian constitution would be held on February 26 in an effort to open dialogue with the opposition. He said the new constitution will end the political monopoly of the ruling Baath party, one of the initial demands of the opposition forces when the Syrian uprisings began last March.

The decision has been scorned by Washington who said the referendum makes a mockery of the revolution. Opposition forces also dismissed the referendum and called for the immediate resignation of President Assad.

This comes off the back of more reports of intensifying violence in Syria, with government security forces reportedly stepping up their bombardment of the flashpoint city of Homs.

LW - and failing that they'll be back for draft resolution no. 3. Must be nice to get paid the big bucks to start wars.
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Post by: Rudi Jan on February 16, 2012, 02:03:34 PM
UN adopts Arab resolution on Syria

Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:51PM GMT
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United Nations General Assembly adopts an anti-Syria resolution, supporting an Arab League plan about the months-long unrest in the Middle Eastern country.

LW - A declaration of war by non-elected bureaucrats beholden to Israel in a Rockefeller building in Jew York. Oh joy.

UN assembly approves non-binding Syria resolution

Thursday, February 16, 2012, 22:13pm GMT
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a major oil pipeline. Photograph: Mulham Alnader/Reuters


The 193-nation UN General Assembly has overwhelmingly approved a non-binding resolution endorsing an Arab League plan that urges Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step aside.

The resolution also condemns human rights violations in Syria and urges an end to the violence in that country.

With 137 votes in favour, 12 against and 17 abstentions, those voting against included Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Cuba and Venezuela.

Earlier today, UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon called on Syrian authorities to stop killing civilians and said potential crimes against humanity were taking place in the country.

"We see neighbourhoods shelled indiscriminately, hospitals used as torture centres, children as young as 10 years old killed and abused. We see almost a certain crimes against humanity," he told reporters after meeting Austrian president Heinz Fischer today.

This morning Syrian troops attacked Deraa to try to stamp out rebels in the border city where the uprising against president Bashar al-Assad's rule began last March, residents and opposition activists said.

The attack, a day after Dr Assad said he would hold a referendum and elections, followed a push against rebels in the major cities of Hama and Homs in an apparent drive to crush the 11-month uprising against his rule.

Dr Assad's offer of a referendum on a new constitution in two weeks' time, leading to multi-party elections within 90 days, drew scornful rejections from the opposition and the West.

France, which earlier today said it was negotiating a new UN security council resolution with Russia, said it wanted to create humanitarian corridors to ease the plight of civilians caught up in the violence.

Speaking after meeting his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov, French foreign minister Alain Juppe said Paris would not in the long term accept the existing political status quo.

"We can possibly reach a compromise on a short-term objective which is to end the massacres," Mr Juppe told reporters in Vienna after a conference on Afghanistan. "We must do everything so that the violence ends and that a lot of humanitarian aid is given to the Syrian people," he said.

The two countries were ready to work on a new Security Council resolution despite Moscow vetoing a version based on an Arab League transition plan on February 4th, Mr Juppe said.

An authoritative Chinese newspaper, apparently responding to criticism of China and Russia for vetoing a UN security council resolution urging Dr Assad to step down, said today that meddling in Syria by foreign powers risked stirring up a hornets' nest of bloodshed and instability in the region.

The commentary in the People's Daily,  the mouthpiece of the ruling Communist Party, carried an author's pen name that is often used to state Beijing's foreign policy stance.

"The political ecology in the Middle East is extremely frail, a tangled mess of thousands of years of ethnic and religious conflict," the commentary said.

World powers must realise this and handle bloodshed in Syria and Middle East tensions with a sense of realism, the paper said, adding that the spread of conflict would be a "catastrophe" in a crucial phase of global economic recovery.

"The Middle East is the world's most important fuel depot. If gripped by chaos, oil prices would skyrocket, shocking the stock market, financial systems and economies," the paper said.

Washington's aim was to install a friendly government in Syria to counter the influence in the region of Iran, it said.

The Chinese foreign ministry said later that vice foreign minister Zhai Jun would visit Syria tomorrow and Saturday.

The state news agency said security forces "chased and fought with an armed terrorist group in the Hamidiya neighbourhood of Hama that has been terrifying citizens" and arrested some of its members, who had automatic rifles and rocket propelled grenades.

Artillery shelled parts of Homs on Wednesday for the 13th day in a row. The Local Coordination Committees, an activist group, said at least four people were killed by army fire concentrated on Baba Amro district, a Sunni neighbourhood.

In Damascus, troops killed at least two youths when they swept into the Barzeh district, searching houses and making arrests, residents said.
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Post by: AngelOfLight on February 18, 2012, 02:12:43 PM
Asad should quit and let the people decide! This si all a move against Russia and China which the Syrians are paying for it!
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Post by: Rudi Jan on February 18, 2012, 03:00:41 PM
Asad should quit and let the people decide! This si all a move against Russia and China which the Syrians are paying for it!

Why should he quit? Because outsiders say so? Outsiders who have invaded the nation and are killing and maiming the people? Ridiculous.
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Post by: AngelOfLight on February 18, 2012, 03:05:56 PM
Why should he quit? Because outsiders say so? Outsiders who have invaded the nation and are killing and maiming the people? Ridiculous.

Yes precisely so! Militarily he has no ch