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Title: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: D_Joyce on February 22, 2006, 07:42:22 AM
The Telegraph - UK
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/2
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Staff
2-22-6

Austria's state prosecutor has filed an appeal to increase the jail sentence that the British historian David Irving must serve for denying the Holocaust during a lecture tour of Austria in 1989.
 
Irving yesterday received a three-year prison sentence for the claims. He immediately filed an appeal to reduce his sentence, arguing that he had changed his mind after further research and now agreed that Nazi Germany had killed millions of Jews.
 
But the state prosecutor claimed Irving was only pretending to moderate his views to try to escape a jail term.
 
A spokesman for the prosecutor's office said it had lodged an appeal to have the sentence increased.
 
Michael Klackl, the state prosecutor, said Irving was a serial "falsifier of history" and had been cast as a martyr for free speech by neo-Nazis who would not grant such rights if they were in power.
 
A new hearing is not likely before the second half of 2006.
 
Denying the Holocaust in Austria is punishable by a prison term of up to10 years.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: D_Joyce on February 22, 2006, 07:43:14 AM
It is time to present the Jews a real holocaust and be rid of the evil bastards.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: NinpoReloaded on February 22, 2006, 07:45:09 AM
I agree. It is getting worse every day.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: D_Joyce on February 22, 2006, 02:52:51 PM
Iraq has just exploded. Everybody (talking heads) is blaming the different Islamic factions. They don't have the guts to lay it at the feet of the god damned Jews, where it belongs. This is a Mossad operation if I ever saw one. I am damned near incoherent with rage at DC. We caused this shit and Bush should be air dropped on his pointy head, right in the middle of it.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: gregor on February 22, 2006, 03:09:47 PM
Actually, this is good news. 

It keeps the pot stirred in the news.  The whole surreality of the case gets magnified.  More people ask questions and look for answers. 

And Irving?  He sniveled anyway.  Besides, he'll get more martyr status.   
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: orraven on February 23, 2006, 03:12:29 PM
I totally agree. Anyone with 2 brain cells knew civil war would be the outcome of this "pack of lies" in Iraq. It was one of the neoclowns desired results from the getgo.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: Judson on February 23, 2006, 04:08:01 PM
Only complete idiots will die over some vain cause such as ideology or politics, so when the Jews crow and scream to protect their holocaust, you can bet your sweet arse that financial considerations are very much involved.
Holocaust is perhaps the greatest swindle of all recorded history.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: D_Joyce on February 25, 2006, 12:51:15 PM
Irving is the least of my worries now. The bastard didn't have the balls to let the hammer fall and call the judge a god damned jew running a star chamber. Hell, if you got to go away, make it worth while.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: D_Joyce on February 25, 2006, 12:54:19 PM
We got Bush because of Jew voter fraud in Florida. The other choice was just as distasteful and we would still be in the same god damned mess but at least the stupid Republican patriots would be howling for his scalp.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: olie on February 25, 2006, 01:05:02 PM
D Joice:-

-.......The bastard didn't have the balls to let the hammer fall and call the judge a god damned jew running a star chamber. Hell, if you got to go away, make it worth while.


- I Agree,  _ He had a really great chance to expose the scum and their myth  .........- But I also strongly believe that D.Irving was chemically treated during those 4 month in custody........ (how a 67 year old nonviolent man can be held w/o bail when suspected murderers are out on bail awaiting trial!)
- Some mild chemical treatment would effect him enough that he was not able to grasp the whole picture of the situation.... - In addition to that there was a psychological treatment as well..... - That Psycho-Treatment was what made him believe that the only way out of there and to have his final word heard is to "admit his guilt" - The "LAW" was clear!  - And he "violated" it......... - "The LAW" that is so absurd - ....and there is no defense against it... - The consequence of that psychological treatment was that there are ONLY  TWO Choices - Go along and get out or stand your ground and stay here (as long as the "LAW" allows........)  - The chemical , I believe was the ingredient that made him miss the great opportunity..........
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: gregor on February 25, 2006, 01:15:37 PM
olie and D

"I Agree,  _ He had a really great chance to expose the scum and their myth"

Me too.  But I understand the math between 3 years and 10.  Especially for a 67 year old guy.  This stuff is not worth dying in prison for.  At this point any advertising is good advertising.  Even an old fart's sellout.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: Ground_Control on February 25, 2006, 01:16:21 PM
Quote
Holocaust is perhaps the greatest swindle of all recorded history.

Vhat!?  ;D

Hey, I have a hard time finding you now without self-search. I miss your flags. Usually come across you by accident.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: olie on February 25, 2006, 01:36:23 PM
gregor: -

-..........This stuff is not worth dying in prison for.

- are you fakin nuts! - i'd grab achance like THAT ! -  Espessially under his circumstances...........

- describe me a better way to go ...... - no matter how old... and for a 67 year old - It's a blessing..
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: gregor on February 25, 2006, 01:44:41 PM
Easy to say, hard to do.

Went to India to preach for a month.  Right after the Hindoos had torched a missionary and his family.  My sponsor told me to kiss my wife and kids goodbye, -just in case.  Makes the rubber meet the road, y' know?

There'll be a time and a cause worth it.  Holocost denial might not be it.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: Ground_Control on February 25, 2006, 01:55:38 PM
I hope people see it as an issue of free speech. That is the bigger picture.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: olie on February 25, 2006, 01:56:44 PM
Gregor: _

-.........There'll be a time and a cause worth it.  Holocost denial might not be it.

- Surprised - You can't see the picture........... - There is no bigger crime than the fakin Holo-Myth !
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: gregor on February 25, 2006, 02:18:54 PM
Remember what I just talked about.  I work for the Guy who's fighting the guy who runs the guys who started the holyhoax.  He's preparing a noose for them. 

And they will step up and put it on.

We're seeing some of it now.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: Ground_Control on February 25, 2006, 02:27:21 PM
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I work for the Guy who's fighting the guy who runs the guys who started the holyhoax.  He's preparing a noose for them.

You mean Jesus?
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: gregor on February 25, 2006, 02:29:17 PM
Yep.

Accept no substitutes.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: olie on February 25, 2006, 02:45:02 PM
gregor: -



- .............I work for the Guy who's fighting the guy who runs the guys who started the holyhoax.  He's preparing a noose for them.

- GC : -You mean Jesus?

 
.......... so , if Your Guy is only as real as the Holy-Hoax - We Are Doomed!
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: gregor on February 25, 2006, 02:50:12 PM
"so , if Your Guy is only as real as the Holy-Hoax - We Are Doomed!"

That would be a true statement.

But you may have missed a guy somewhere.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: olie on February 25, 2006, 03:15:30 PM
me : -  .........."so , if Your Guy is only as real as the Holy-Hoax - We Are Doomed!"

gregor; - That would be a true statement.

But you may have missed a guy somewhere.

- The evidence that Your Guy is preparing the noose is only as good as the evidence supporting the Holo-Hoax..........
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: gregor on February 25, 2006, 03:18:10 PM
Whatever ol.

But you heard someone say that you got it bassackwards.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: Judson on February 27, 2006, 04:17:11 AM
Ms. Lipstadt claims that she doesn't want Irving to go to jail ... says their love affair will survive this ordeal
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/930767/lipstadt.jpg)(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/930767/columbo.jpg)

                                              colombo isn't sure this relationship can be saved
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: Ground_Control on February 27, 2006, 05:37:24 AM
Lipshitz oughtta be the one in jail!
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: D_Joyce on February 27, 2006, 05:42:28 AM
So should be the Judge and jury that gave the bitch a win over Irving. I think that is when his fortune started to head south. He knows he can't get a fair hearing anywhere there is a Jew on the bench.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: Ground_Control on February 27, 2006, 05:59:22 AM
Jusdges need to be pooled the same as jurists. Judges should not be allowed to preside over a case where they have a blatant bias.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: D_Joyce on February 27, 2006, 12:43:32 PM
That's not a half bad idea.
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: TheFetch on March 02, 2006, 06:28:25 PM
Irving is the least of my worries now. The bastard didn't have the balls to let the hammer fall and call the judge a god damned jew running a star chamber. Hell, if you got to go away, make it worth while.

Hi Joyce...I was thinking the same as you.  The guy did not put up a defense and essentially caved under obvious duress.  But ultimately, he did himself and posterity a terrible disservice by not putting up a spirited defense.  If he knew his stuff, and he was not on trial because he did not, he would have been more than capable of opening more eyes now that people are starting to focus on the obvious double standards as it is applying to we in the West as to "free speech".
Title: Re: Appeal Filed To Lengthen Irving's Prison Sentence!
Post by: D_Joyce on March 12, 2006, 01:48:45 PM
The only thing they have left us, to enforce the constitution is assassination of these criminal bastards.