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Title: Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 01, 2012, 09:20:29 AM
JERUSALEM (AP) — Images of ultra-Orthodox Jews dressing up as Nazi concentration camp inmates during a protest drew widespread condemnation Sunday and added a new twist to a simmering battle over growing extremism inside Israel's insular ultra-Orthodox community.

Religious extremists are facing increasing criticism for their efforts to separate men and women in public spaces, and Saturday's protest, in which a child mimicked an iconic photo of a terrified Jewish boy in the Warsaw Ghetto, added to the outrage.
http://news.yahoo.com/holocaust-survivors-blast-nazi-garb-protest-141806272.html

happy new year...

here we go again
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: laconas on January 01, 2012, 09:42:49 AM
Those wacky Jews.


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Orthodox Jewish children, wearing a Star of David patch similar to those the Nazis forced Jews to wear, attends a rally in Jerusalem's Mea Shearim neighborhood, Saturday, Dec. 31, 2011. Thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews gathered to rally for the right to protect their way of life. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: jacob gold on January 01, 2012, 06:51:14 PM
If elected president I will shut off aid to Israel and give it to Gaza. But I expect the Arabs to treat Jews fairly
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: laconas on January 01, 2012, 09:19:57 PM
If elected president I will shut off aid to Israel and give it to Gaza. But I expect the Arabs to treat Jews fairly

Those pictures above are very similar to the kids that were to the gas chambers at Auschwitz.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 02, 2012, 05:01:07 AM
Those pictures above are very similar to the kids that were to the gas chambers at Auschwitz.

Right. hence the protest and story...

"a child mimicked an iconic photo of a terrified Jewish boy in the Warsaw Ghetto, added to the outrage."

glad you"re keeping up, Einsteinkopf.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: WaltDisney on January 02, 2012, 06:36:02 AM
To be authentic, why dont they grab their instruments and play as they did in Auschwitz  and Buchenwald ie the Auschwitz prisoner Orchestra

(http://www.whale.to/b/90ij.jpg)

(http://artsmagazine.info/uploads/articles/2011031418500662358.jpg)



Lap pool at Auschwitz for good workers
(http://www.rense.com/general24/swimpool.jpg)


The REAL reason they hate Hitler-His sign WORK MAKES YOU FREE
(http://news-poland.com/upload/news/4053pbrama-auschwitz.jpg)



http://www.youtube.com/v/xm8UmMuRSSw&feature=g-all-a&list=PL76FBC9771FEC9FFE&context=G234b702FAAAAAAAAPAA&skipcontrinter=1
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 02, 2012, 07:35:44 AM
To be authentic, why dont they

because deception by altering the original pays off...you certainly know that
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: OldTimes on January 02, 2012, 02:23:25 PM
because deception by altering the original pays off...you certainly know that

So who's doing the deceiving clefty?  the jews or the catholics?

The motivations behind the holohoax are diabolical, whoever is doing the deceiving is the guilty party for many of the historic deceptions we have.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: EyeBelieve on January 02, 2012, 09:48:02 PM
JERUSALEM (AP) — Images of ultra-Orthodox Jews dressing up as Nazi concentration camp inmates during a protest drew widespread condemnation Sunday and added a new twist to a simmering battle over growing extremism inside Israel's insular ultra-Orthodox community.

Wow even Haredi are forbidden from using Holohoax Holocaust as a political tool?  Holohoax is sacred indeed.  Seriously, it's interesting that the "Jewish homeland" consigns the Orthodox folks to the fringe.  Why make "Aliyah" just to be another minority? 
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: laconas on January 02, 2012, 10:07:53 PM
Wow even Haredi are forbidden from using Holohoax Holocaust as a political tool?  Holohoax is sacred indeed.  Seriously, it's interesting that the "Jewish homeland" consigns the Orthodox folks to the fringe.  Why make "Aliyah" just to be another minority?

The Holocaust is going to be turned into a religious Jewish holiday in the future. Come to think of it all their holidays are about running one step ahead of John Law.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: AngelOfLight on January 02, 2012, 10:41:44 PM
Every kind of Orthodoxy is extreme! These people live on the backs of tax paying citizens while causing the most trouble! 
A serious problem in the Israeli society which needs to set its self free by putting these radicals to work  to provide for them selves!
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 03, 2012, 03:50:05 AM
Wow even Haredi are forbidden from using Holohoax Holocaust as a political tool?  Holohoax is sacred indeed.  Seriously, it's interesting that the "Jewish homeland" consigns the Orthodox folks to the fringe.
it might be their choice... remember some of these orthodox reject current israel. as torah true they await the messiah to establish the state...joos against zionism

http://jewsagainstzionism.com/

most of those in camps (starved off/diseased) were against state and considered worthless by zionists

the rest of the orthodox chose not to "assimilate" with other joos...nobody want to live with joos...not even joos

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Why make "Aliyah" just to be another minority?
its the age old feud...does god rule (through scripture) or secular king/state?  being minority is hallmark of the chosen so orthodox are the most chosenest of the chosen...

Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 03, 2012, 03:55:16 AM
The Holocaust is going to be turned into a religious Jewish holiday in the future. Come to think of it all their holidays are about running one step ahead of John Law.

that is their joke..."they tried to kill us...let's eat"

they already literally shut the whole country down for remembrance

sacrifices must be remembered...that's the pathology... the holocaust had to happen in order for the "blessing" to occur...
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 03, 2012, 04:07:19 AM
Every kind of Orthodoxy is extreme! These people live on the backs of tax paying citizens while causing the most trouble! 
A serious problem in the Israeli society which needs to set its self free by putting these radicals to work  to provide for them selves!

that's the point of being joo

"So I gave you a land on which you did not toil and cities you did not build; and you live in them and eat from vineyards and olive groves that you did not plant.' Joshua 24:13

ironically

"When a recent online exposé revealed that women on a city-franchised bus were required to sit in the back, those who seemed to be least outraged were the women who actually ride the bus."

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/segregation-of-the-sexes-spreads-among-orthodox-jews-1.392956

not even jooish women want to ride with jooish men on the bus...



"A serious problem in the Israeli american society which needs to set its self free by putting these radicals joos to work to provide for them selves!"


Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: jacob gold on January 03, 2012, 06:21:16 AM
Those pictures above are very similar to the kids that were to the gas chambers at Auschwitz.


Did you know that 1.5 million kids were gassed out of 6 million. When the trains ran out of coal, they threw babies in the  steam engines.

My aunt edith Stein would eat diamonds and then go in a corner and s*hit them out.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: FrankDialogue on January 03, 2012, 07:12:59 AM
So who's doing the deceiving clefty?  the jews or the catholics?

The motivations behind the holohoax are diabolical, whoever is doing the deceiving is the guilty party for many of the historic deceptions we have.

I don't usually criticize the Church here because we have too many misguided individuals who think that Christianity is a 'Jewish' creation, and I don't like to get them started down a dead end.

But some Catholics, especially after the Bishop Williamson controversy, take the teachings of the Church into a political quagmire...From Bishop Pellay SSPX Father Superior, and other political priests:

DER SPIEGEL:

SPIEGEL: So why don't you exclude Williamson from the society?

Fellay: That will happen if he denies the Holocaust again.

Bp. Fellay was just blending in with Pope Benedict who a month earlier had admonished Catholics to not "forget or deny" "The Holocaust," and Archbishop Reinhard Marx who proclaimed, “Every denial of the Holocaust must be punished harshly,” Cardinal Vingt-Trois who exclaimed, "Being a Catholic is radically incompatible with denying the Holocaust," Cardinal Kasper announcing, "No Holocaust denial can be allowed or permitted, It's absolutely clear that a Holocaust denier can't have a room, a space in the Catholic Church."

This statement reveals a caving in to political pressure.

http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2011/11/church-council-up-for-discussion-not.html (http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2011/11/church-council-up-for-discussion-not.html)

My view on the whole matter is rather simple: I oppose any kind of forced labor or gulag or 'concentration camps' for anyone except convicted criminals (murderers, rapists, other perpetrators of crimes against humanity) because this is a crime itself...Those who get paranoid about supposed FEMA camps or other detention facilities for Americans should agree with this...There has never been proof of German extermination camps or industrial gas chambers...It is a sad fact that the Soviet gulags have never come under the scrutiny that these German camps have, but then the Soviets were on the 'winning side'.

(http://www.saveyourheritage.com/images/montana_de_cadaveres_en_un_gulag_sovietico.jpg)

Soviet Gulag 'residents'
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: grizzle on January 03, 2012, 05:12:15 PM
Those wacky Jews.

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After the protest, the boy registered as a holocaust survivor, and will now get $75,000 a year in reparations from Germany. He then announced the publication of his new book, in which he tells of how the Nazis were so fiendish and horrible  they scared him into a state of suspended aging since 1939. The horror, the horror.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: grizzle on January 03, 2012, 05:20:43 PM
The musical instruments were mis-tuned to a frequncy that made jews' heads explode. They weren't allowed to play until all the Germans had left the building. This was the invention of fiendish Nazi scientists.
The pool was filled with a solution of itching powder. Hitler, Mengele and Eichmann would occasionally visit and throw children in, sometimes millions of them in a day. While laughing maniacally.
The poor jewish children would scratch themselves............to death. Any left over were assembled in a makeshift village and destroyed with an atomic bomb! The horror, the horror.
Why did the skies not darken?


To be authentic, why dont they grab their instruments and play as they did in Auschwitz  and Buchenwald ie the Auschwitz prisoner Orchestra

(http://www.whale.to/b/90ij.jpg)

Lap pool at Auschwitz for good workers
(http://www.rense.com/general24/swimpool.jpg)
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: laconas on January 03, 2012, 05:26:27 PM
After the protest, the boy registered as a holocaust survivor, and will now get $75,000 a year in reparations from Germany. He then announced the publication of his new book, in which he tells of how the Nazis were so fiendish and horrible  they scared him into a state of suspended aging since 1939. The horror, the horror.

I think every Jew in Israel already get's 75 per yr from US taxpayers.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: EyeBelieve on January 03, 2012, 07:49:34 PM
it might be their choice... remember some of these orthodox reject current israel. as torah true they await the messiah to establish the state...joos against zionism

http://jewsagainstzionism.com/

most of those in camps (starved off/diseased) were against state and considered worthless by zionists

the rest of the orthodox chose not to "assimilate" with other joos...nobody want to live with joos...not even joos
 its the age old feud...does god rule (through scripture) or secular king/state?  being minority is hallmark of the chosen so orthodox are the most chosenest of the chosen...

The jewsagainstzionism.com site is interesting though much of the lingo is beyond me.  I do gather, of course, that these guys insist that current Israel is un-Torah.

Anyway, as an (unwilling) US taxpayer I'm upset my $$ go to jerks who freak out whenever someone uses "Holocaust" imagery in an Unapproved Fashion.  It's like when people criticize Obama as a Marxist (which since he's a Wall St boy) I disagree with:  do I shout out, "How dare you belittle the millions who died in the Holomodor!"?

Phew, here's an idea for the Holohoaxers:  since they push the Daniel Goldhagen thesis that the "Holocaust" was an expression of innate German/gentile anti-semitism, I forbid them to mention Hitler, Nazis, show swastikas etc.  Any Nazi references or imagery (according to this idea) distracts folks from realizing that ALL gentiles are the enemy, not just a few that lived in a short time period.  Good for the goose, good for the gander. 8)
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 04, 2012, 01:11:16 AM
The jewsagainstzionism.com site is interesting though much of the lingo is beyond me.  I do gather, of course, that these guys insist that current Israel is un-Torah.
please dont dismiss it too quickly...this site reveals zionism's collaboration with nazi's and the devestating effect of zionism in general...even to joos

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Anyway, as an (unwilling) US taxpayer I'm upset my $$
sorry...its NOT your money...but private bill of debt...critical point...you cant determine how much is printed NOR where it goes to...

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go to jerks who freak out whenever someone uses "Holocaust" imagery in an Unapproved Fashion.
this the the point of the protest...ITS TRUTH

it was other joos who rounded up joos and stuck yellow stars on them...you really think a goy mind could come up with the holocaust-world war to israel scheme?

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It's like when people criticize Obama as a Marxist (which since he's a Wall St boy) I disagree with:  do I shout out, "How dare you belittle the millions who died in the Holomodor!"?
i regret you dont shout out...the more to debate and remember...the better...sadly most are clueless to the holomodor because we stopped shouting

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Phew, here's an idea for the Holohoaxers:  since they push the Daniel Goldhagen thesis that the "Holocaust" was an expression of innate German/gentile anti-semitism, I forbid them to mention Hitler, Nazis, show swastikas etc.  Any Nazi references or imagery (according to this idea) distracts folks from realizing that ALL gentiles are the enemy, not just a few that lived in a short time period.  Good for the goose, good for the gander. 8)

 :)

ironically joos are the only ones bringing up the nazi's... forbid that and it too will disappear into kardashianstan

the shock of "millions gassed " indeed prevents amalek from reorganizing again...even the church is responsible for this

"ze evil nazis" destroyed german's yearning for their own gods...

which is another reason vatican allows the holohoax to continue...
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: jacob gold on January 04, 2012, 07:25:52 PM
I think every Jew in Israel already get's 75 per yr from US taxpayers.


Now lets see Mr Laconas

These jews come from russia to Israel with no money and wind up in country club hilltop settlements. They don't work, and life consists of shooting arabs and mplesting kids. The money is all borrowed from US banks, insurance companies (AIG), etc  --- basically the US taxpayer
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: laconas on January 04, 2012, 07:30:50 PM

Now lets see Mr Laconas

These jews come from russia to Israel with no money and wind up in country club hilltop settlements. They don't work, and life consists of shooting arabs and mplesting kids. The money is all borrowed from US banks, insurance companies (AIG), etc  --- basically the US taxpayer

Yes, but they're Holocaust survivors.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: OldTimes on January 04, 2012, 07:55:57 PM
Yes, but they're Holocaust survivors.

We've been feeling collective guilt for 3 generations over a holocaust which didn't happen.  Do you think we've paid enough guilt to have a real holocaust and not give it a 2nd thought?
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: wag on January 04, 2012, 08:00:27 PM
Yes, but they're Holocaust survivors.

Holocost survivors have alway been a dime a dozen or less.  Ghetto/gutter yids that showered enough not to get typhus.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: Sceptic on January 04, 2012, 08:43:05 PM
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Orthodox Jewish children, wearing a Star of David patch similar to those the Nazis forced Jews to wear, attends a rally in Jerusalem's Mea Shearim neighborhood, Saturday, Dec. 31, 2011. Thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews gathered to rally for the right to protect their way of life.

JERUSALEM (AP) — Images of ultra-Orthodox Jews dressing up as Nazi concentration camp inmates during a protest drew widespread condemnation Sunday and added a new twist to a simmering battle over growing extremism inside Israel's insular ultra-Orthodox community.

Religious extremists are facing increasing criticism for their efforts to separate men and women in public spaces, and Saturday's protest, in which a child mimicked an iconic photo of a terrified Jewish boy in the Warsaw Ghetto, added to the outrage.


Mighty embarrassing for the Holocaust to be used in such a blasphemous manner by fellow Jews. Stupid religious ideology is <<<<<< Holocaust, because the latter is what unites ALL Jews, regardless of spiritual belief, & should NOT be utilized in a way that belittles its memory.

This protest was more of a reprimand, I suppose, to remind them that collective Jewish suffering should ONLY be invoked r.e. Gentiles, NEVER w.r.t. other JEws.


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Looks like all males...future women haters & oppressors.  If Orthodox J & Muslim women weren't so stupid & brainwashed they could unite & accomplish a lot...would go a long way in destroying J/M power-grip over ME. That ME power structure is crucial to J control.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: laconas on January 05, 2012, 12:53:42 AM

Mighty embarrassing for the Holocaust to be used in such a blasphemous manner by fellow Jews. Stupid religious ideology is <<<<<< Holocaust, because the latter is what unites ALL Jews, regardless of spiritual belief, & should NOT be utilized in a way that belittles its memory.

This protest was more of a reprimand, I suppose, to remind them that collective Jewish suffering should ONLY be invoked r.e. Gentiles, NEVER w.r.t. other JEws.


Looks like all males...future women haters & oppressors.  If Orthodox J & Muslim women weren't so stupid & brainwashed they could unite & accomplish a lot...would go a long way in destroying J/M power-grip over ME. That ME power structure is crucial to J control.

There you go again with your feminist analysis.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 03:46:00 AM

Now lets see Mr Laconas

These jews come from russia to Israel with no money and wind up in country club hilltop settlements. They don't work, and life consists of shooting arabs and mplesting kids. The money is all borrowed from US banks, insurance companies (AIG), etc  --- basically the US taxpayer

psssst....its not your money...its theirs and they do with it as they please...

you are lucky they still loan it to you or keep it valuable
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 03:59:11 AM
We've been feeling collective guilt for 3 generations over a holocaust which didn't happen.  Do you think we've paid enough guilt to have a real holocaust and not give it a 2nd thought?


because goys harbor such hatred and superstions about joos it keeps goys unorganized and blinded

goys, germans especially, indeed are a victim but since they dont "love the joo" as in "love your enemy" they will never understand the joo nor regroup to overthrow the parasite...

in fact latent hate helps to keep goys in denial...both of their anger and victim status...

again...stockholm sydrome

a good place to start is in your church/religion....believe one lie believe a whole string of them...

the catholic church should be at the fore front of denying joos...

not ushering them into european thought and consciousness...and protecting them


all this "its daaa jooo" is merely repressed admiration...

remember, joos use antisemitism

rage/hate keeps us impotent
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: jacob gold on January 05, 2012, 06:29:53 AM
Jews were lice carriers - that's why they were shaved

(http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/pressac/technique-and-operation/image_files/054-01.jpe)


This entire gassing story comes out of clothes fumigation

(http://furtherglory.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/dachaua018.jpg)


  These were delousing room for clothing  -- notice the clothing rack

(http://furtherglory.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/dachauc046.jpg)
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 03:30:11 PM

This entire gassing story comes out of clothes fumigation


I would add the eugenics programs the nazis carried out morphed into the myth as well...

or do you deny "mercy killings"

The doomed were bused to killing centers in Germany and Austria walled-in fortresses, mostly former psychiatric hospitals, castles, and a former prison — at Hartheim, Sonnenstein, Grafeneck, Bernburg, Hadamar, and Brandenburg. In the beginning, patients were killed by lethal injection. But by 1940, Hitler, on the advice of Dr. Werner Heyde, suggested that carbon monoxide gas be used as the preferred method of killing. Experimental gassings had first been carried out at Brandenburg Prison in 1939. There, gas chambers were disguised as showers complete with fake nozzles in order to deceive victims — prototypes of the killing centers' facilities built in occupied Poland later in the war.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/disabled.html
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: WaltDisney on January 05, 2012, 03:47:32 PM
I would add the eugenics programs the nazis carried out morphed into the myth as well...

or do you deny "mercy killings"

The doomed were bused to killing centers in Germany and Austria walled-in fortresses, mostly former psychiatric hospitals, castles, and a former prison — at Hartheim, Sonnenstein, Grafeneck, Bernburg, Hadamar, and Brandenburg. In the beginning, patients were killed by lethal injection. But by 1940, Hitler, on the advice of Dr. Werner Heyde, suggested that carbon monoxide gas be used as the preferred method of killing. Experimental gassings had first been carried out at Brandenburg Prison in 1939. There, gas chambers were disguised as showers complete with fake nozzles in order to deceive victims — prototypes of the killing centers' facilities built in occupied Poland later in the war.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/disabled.html





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Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: jacob gold on January 05, 2012, 04:12:13 PM
The only gassing at Auschwitz was the jewish flatulence at the barracks after a full meal
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
(http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/pinocchio-prequel.gif)

what's the matter wally cant handle history?

you deny one of your church's feeble hero's

"Bishop Clemens von Galen was perhaps the most effective of clerical protesters to the Euthanasia program.         

The Bishop delivered sermons against the "mercy killings" that were later printed and widely disseminated throughout Germany. The Bishop warned his parishioners that the arbitrary killings of the 'unproductive' could extend to wounded soldiers. Guenter Lewy in The Catholic Church and Nazi Germany, concludes Bishop Gulen's sermon, writing "Woe to the German people when innocents not only could be killed, but their slayers remain unpunished" (Lewy 265)


http://www.claremontmckenna.edu/hist/jpetropoulos/holocaust/euthanasia.htm




ze nazi's however continued to follow rome...

"The city-state of Sparta in Greece practiced a form of euthansia that might better be named: eugenics [ridding society of those that are deemed "unworthy of life."]
 
The father had no authority to rear his child, when born, but brought it to a place called the Lesche; here the elders of his tribe sat and examined the infant. .. .but if it were feeble and ill-shaped, they sent it to the so-called Place of Casting-Out -- a chasm near Mt. Taygetos -- considering that for a child ill-suited from birth for health and vigor to live was disadvantageous for itself and for the state. Plutarch [Roman historian], Vita Lycurgi

Philosophical Greece: Both Plato and Aristotle were in favor of some sort of infanticide. Plato in describing his model state sounds a lot like the Spartans when he says:
 
The children of inferior parents, and any deformed offspring of others, they [the Guardians] will secretly put out of the way as is fitting. Plato, The Republic
 
Euthanasia, the practice of putting somebody else of out his misery, was not a common or approved practice, but suicide as a form euthanasia was advocated by some. Plato in his Republic has Socrates criticizing Heroditus, the teacher of Hippocrates, for "inventing lingering death." He goes on to say:
 
[The god of healing] did not want to lengthen out good-for-nothing lives... Those who are diseased in their bodies, [physicians] mil leave to die, and the corrupt and incurable souls they will put an end to themselves . Plato, The Republic
 
The city-state of Athens seems to have had a form of state-assisted suicide. The Roman writer Libanius reports:
 
Whoever no longer wished to live shall state his reasons to the Senate, and after having received permission shall abandon life. If your existence is hateful to you, die; if you are overwhelmed by fate, drink the hemlock, lf you are bowed with grief, abandon life. Let the unhappy man recount his misfortune, let the magistrate supply him with the remedy, and his wretchedness will come to an end
 
The Stoics also favored suicide when pain, illness or abnormalities were too much to bear. It is reported that Zeno, the founder of Stoicism, committed suicide at the age of 98 when he fell and wrenched a finger.

Others like the Pythagoreans, Aristotelians and Epicureans opposed suicide as the coward's way out. Physician-assisted suicide probably was practiced secretly or without much reaction from the state if Hippocrates, a Pythagorean, felt it necessary to speak out against it. His oath which, if he did not write it, at least contains his ideals, says:
 
.. I will give no deadly medicine to anyone if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and in like manner I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce abortion...
 
The chief point of this discussion is that among the wise men of Greece ending one's life for a variety of reasons, pain and illness included, was considered a rational and humane thing to do. It should also be remembered, however, that this was far from a unanimous opinion. Euthanasia, if present, is not publicly acknowledged.

Rome: Rome adopted Greek ideas here as they did in so many aspects of civilization. Suicide was punishable only if it was irrational. But there were plenty of rational reasons for suicide. Impatience with illness and pain, weariness of life, lunacy or fear of dishonor were among them.
 
It makes a great deal of difference whether a man is lengthening his life or his death. But if the body is useless for service, why should one not free the struggling soul? Perhaps one ought to do this a little before the debt is due, lest, when it falls due, he may be unable to perform the act. Seneca [Roman Stoic writer], Epistulae Morales"
http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/historical-look-at-euthanasia-280


In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was taken away by the Nazi regime and killed during the Aktion T4 campaign of Nazi eugenics.[11]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI

does "positive eugenics" include the ustashi method?



btw....your denial is typical...

Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: Vidarr on January 05, 2012, 05:16:00 PM
or do you deny "mercy killings"

You say it as if it's a bad thing.. what's wrong with putting a suffering creature out of it's misery ?.
 
If you shoot a crippled horse you're a compassionate guy who just prevented prolonged agony for an helpless animal. If you euthanise a severely mentally and/or physically retarded human that's incapable of sustaining nor enjoying a viable existance worthy of a human, then you're the devil incarnate butcher from Hell.

Under Hitler severely sick and uncurable people wouldn't just be killed so easily. Hitler ordered that multiple doctors had to agree that there was no humane existence possible for the patient and those doctors all had to sign the order before the patient could be euthanised. It was only to be used for the really extreme cases.. But if you believe the jewish version of events everybody with a slight nervous tick or a light cough would be exterminated personally by joseph Mengele who then ate their liver with a nice chianti and danced naked under the full moon with their emaciated corpses.

But if you nurture an unresponsive vegetable into a torturous lifelong experience of wheelchair drewling, diaperwetting and excruciating pains  you are a blessed saint.








 
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 05:27:23 PM
You say it as if it's a bad thing.. what's wrong with putting a suffering creature out of it's misery ?.

so you dont deny it was done?...there are those who do

i was merely contributing to what may have morphed into "6 million were gassed"...

good lies are built from truth...


Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 05:49:36 PM
(http://furtherglory.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/dachauc046.jpg)

and now this
   
Dubai Gym Owner Apologizes After Backlash Over Holocaust-Themed Fitness Campaign

(http://images.thepostgame.com/sites/default/files/circuit-factory-gym-auschwitz-camp-ad_blog_post.jpg)

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/training-day/201201/dubai-gym-owner-pulls-holocaust-themed-fitness-ad

I guess they were work-out camps...
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: OldTimes on January 05, 2012, 05:54:53 PM
because goys harbor such hatred and superstions about joos it keeps goys unorganized and blinded
...
all this "its daaa jooo" is merely repressed admiration...

Okay, now I know your a total joke or a total jew.

Why don't you and your "it's the Vatican Assassins" nonsense take a hike...
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 06:08:58 PM
Okay, now I know your a total joke or a total jew.

Why don't you and your "it's the Vatican Assassins" nonsense take a hike...

what? and miss the "real" holocaust you are advocating?....please dont start it before I get my popcorn

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Orsen.jpg)

the only "joke" around here are these clowns who failed at their joo solution, killed millions of whites merely to establish the state of israel



you laughing?
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: wag on January 05, 2012, 06:21:51 PM
The only gassing at Auschwitz was the jewish flatulence at the barracks after a full meal

Jews in camps ate better than regular germans.  That's a fact.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: wag on January 05, 2012, 06:23:03 PM
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/

The jewish virtual library is an unflushed toilet.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 06:31:01 PM
The jewish virtual library is an unflushed toilet.

right...

 luckily they are the only ones that wrote of the nazi's eugenics program

obviously the catholic church protested a non existant mercy killing program...
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: OldTimes on January 05, 2012, 06:35:50 PM
what? and miss the "real" holocaust you are advocating?....please dont start it before I get my popcorn

Where did I advocate anything?  I didn't.
You are twisting what was said, and not acknowledging what it was intended to mean.  As usual.

I am still waiting for you to get back to my question I posed you earlier in the thread which you understandably totally ignored.  Who is doing the deceiving?  That answers everything though, so you dodge it.

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you laughing?

I'm not laughing anymore.  I cannot believe anymore your viewpoints are because of ignorance, you are here out of malice.  Over and over you've neglected to engage in honest debate, instead posting abrasive commentary and ridicule, but no one's buying it here...
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: EyeBelieve on January 05, 2012, 08:27:23 PM
please dont dismiss it too quickly...this site reveals zionism's collaboration with nazi's and the devestating effect of zionism in general...even to joos

I didn't dismiss it, just saying there is so much Hebrew mixed in it's hard for a non-speaker to understand a lot.

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it was other joos who rounded up joos and stuck yellow stars on them...you really think a goy mind could come up with the holocaust-world war to israel scheme?

Yes, the big Zios (esp London branch) like Rothschild etc pushed Zionism & also helped create the World Wars that pushed Germany into a corner.  & I think that many of those big Zios knew Israel would not be some wonderful safe homeland & that many jews would need a "push" to go.  Despite that there were some Zio collaborators w/the Nazis, much of the scheming behind Versailles, rise of Nazis etc was directed for standard geopolitical aims (ie keep Germany & Russia down) rather than purely as a means to create Israel. 

Anyway in re the protest I think both sides are playing games.  The ultra-Orthos & "survivors" both rely on exaggerating the "Holocaust", just for different ends.

Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 09:24:43 PM
Where did I advocate anything?  I didn't.

you said

"We've been feeling collective guilt for 3 generations over a holocaust which didn't happen. Do you think we've paid enough guilt to have a real holocaust and not give it a 2nd thought?"

see? that bolded part at the end there really sounds like you wish to have a "real" holocaust after making "payments" for one that didnt happen...and not give it a 2nd thought...ooops forgot the quote marks

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You are twisting what was said, and not acknowledging what it was intended to mean.  As usual.

so you dont want a real holocaust after paying for 3 generations of collective guilt with nothing to show for it?

maybe one more generation and you can kill without flinching...


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I am still waiting for you to get back to my question I posed you earlier in the thread which you understandably totally ignored.  Who is doing the deceiving?  That answers everything though, so you dodge it.

dodge? I thought your question was rhetorical and you answered it...

"whoever is doing the deceiving is the guilty party for many of the historic deceptions we have."

see? ...and since I aint heard many catholics "speak the truth" about the holocaust... certainly nothing different from the joo version... well then...

you answered it..."whoever is doing the deceiving"


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I'm not laughing anymore.  I cannot believe anymore your viewpoints are because of ignorance, you are here out of malice.  Over and over you've neglected to engage in honest debate, instead posting abrasive commentary and ridicule, but no one's buying it here...

malice? why? cuz I dont join the "its da joo" chorus?...so I am heretic joo joke.... terrorist ?...

do you admire the NWO and it's termination of dissent?...it might get your desired body count

global state doesnt have second thoughts either...


ironically I attempted to address the anger I sensed of your having to pay 3 generations of guilt for nothing...

3 generations of blinding anger...that leads to continued malice

but carry on...
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 05, 2012, 09:47:38 PM
3 generations of blinding anger...that leads to continued malice

Not so blind... just justified. As to the Joo chorus, that's not surprising when they have done so much to screw everyone else.

Funny thing... you Joos take over our institutions then commit crimes in their names. Then you have the chutzpah to point the finger at those you've corrupted. Nice work if you can get I guess.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 10:01:45 PM
I didn't dismiss it, just saying there is so much Hebrew mixed in it's hard for a non-speaker to understand a lot.
ok...but lots there in english....some round here reject joo writing outright...but years ago through it found Edwin Black's transfer agreement etc

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standard geopolitical aims (ie keep Germany & Russia down) rather than purely as a means to create Israel.
fine...but I'll stick to its a spiritual warfare with religious manifestations using geopolitical aims and means

oh and the rothschilds didnt make a calendar the world follows... :)

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Anyway in re the protest I think both sides are playing games.  The ultra-Orthos & "survivors" both rely on exaggerating the "Holocaust", just for different ends.

yes the holohoax has been well played...used by all...


from that site

"IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THE SAGES AND SAINTS IN EUROPE AT THE TIME OF HITLER'S RISE DECLARED THAT HE WAS A MESSENGER OF DIVINE WRATH, SENT TO CHASTEN THE JEWS BECAUSE OF THE BITTER APOSTASY OF ZIONISM AGAINST THE BELIEF IN THE EVENTUAL MESSIANIC REDEMPTION.

...It wasn't enough for the Zionist leaders to have aroused the wrath of G-d. They made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination. Just the idea alone of Zionism, which the rabbis had informed them would cause havoc, was not enough for them. They made an effort to pour fuel on an already burning flame. They had to incite the Angel of Death, Adolf Hitler. They took the liberty of telling the world that they represented World Jewry. Who appointed these individuals as leaders of the Jewish People?? It is no secret that these so-called "leaders" were ignoramuses when it came to Judaism. Atheists and racists too. These are the "statesmen" who organized the irresponsible boycott against Germany in 1933. This boycott hurt Germany like a fly attacking an elephant - but it brought calamity upon the Jews of Europe. At a time when America and England were at peace with the mad-dog Hitler, the Zionist "statesmen" forsook the only plausible method of political amenability; and with their boycott incensed the leader of Germany to a frenzy...."

http://jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/holocaust/gedalyaLiebermann.cfm
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: EyeBelieve on January 05, 2012, 10:23:13 PM
"IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THE SAGES AND SAINTS IN EUROPE AT THE TIME OF HITLER'S RISE DECLARED THAT HE WAS A MESSENGER OF DIVINE WRATH, SENT TO CHASTEN THE JEWS BECAUSE OF THE BITTER APOSTASY OF ZIONISM AGAINST THE BELIEF IN THE EVENTUAL MESSIANIC REDEMPTION.

...It wasn't enough for the Zionist leaders to have aroused the wrath of G-d. They made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination. Just the idea alone of Zionism, which the rabbis had informed them would cause havoc, was not enough for them. They made an effort to pour fuel on an already burning flame. They had to incite the Angel of Death, Adolf Hitler. They took the liberty of telling the world that they represented World Jewry. Who appointed these individuals as leaders of the Jewish People?? It is no secret that these so-called "leaders" were ignoramuses when it came to Judaism. Atheists and racists too. These are the "statesmen" who organized the irresponsible boycott against Germany in 1933. This boycott hurt Germany like a fly attacking an elephant - but it brought calamity upon the Jews of Europe. At a time when America and England were at peace with the mad-dog Hitler, the Zionist "statesmen" forsook the only plausible method of political amenability; and with their boycott incensed the leader of Germany to a frenzy...."

http://jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/holocaust/gedalyaLiebermann.cfm

Seems like circular logic, God punishing the Zios by allowing them to boost Hitler, making non-zio jews suffer & leading to creation of Israel?!  Well the old Hebe God never worried much about collateral damage.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 05, 2012, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: LoneWolf link=topic=22792.msg213537#mtsg213537 date=1325832458
Not so blind... just justified.
justified? for what? your own gullibility? laziness? cowardice?

even in history lessons... buyer beware...

whatever happened to wise as serpents harmless as doves?

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As to the Joo chorus, that's not surprising when they have done so much to screw everyone else.


sing away...but there are others besides joos who wish for power...and already have it

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Funny thing... you Joos take over our institutions then commit crimes in their names. Then you have the chutzpah to point the finger at those you've corrupted. Nice work if you can get I guess.
funnier thing...

you think I am joo...



Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 05, 2012, 11:07:57 PM
justified? for what? your own gullibility? laziness? cowardice?

Are you an absolute idiot or do you think insulting me is a way to win an argument? Oh yeah, the joo methodology. You think I'm gullible? Lazy? A coward? Who is it here that believes the Church is the guilty party in this world of $h^t produced by Jews? Who is it here that keeps failing to back up what they say? Who is it here who runs from answering straight out questions with straight answers?

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even in history lessons... buyer beware...

Your little caveats sound very fine indeed but they apply to you as much as anyone else and thus far you've ignored history whenever it suits.

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whatever happened to wise as serpents harmless as doves?
 

I don't know... why not tell us?

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sing away...but there are others besides joos who wish for power...and already have it
 funnier thing...

I'm singing but for the deaf it's not going to be appreciated is it?

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you think I am joo...

Yeah, you are. If not by blood then by being a fellow traveller.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 06, 2012, 12:32:08 AM
Are you an absolute idiot or do you think insulting me is a way to win an argument Oh yeah, the joo methodology. You think I'm gullible? Lazy? A coward?
no, not an absolute idiot just dumb enough to forget how sensitive you are...

did or do you believe 6 million were gassed? are you that gullible? believe anything? are you that lazy?

if the shoe fits wear it...

3 generations felt/feel guilty...arent they gullible? believe anything, everything...are they not lazy? not invested into research study debate...are they cowards? or did anyone stand to shout against the lies?...


fool me once shame on you...fool me twice...shame on me

but for you, blinding anger which continues the malice, is justified...

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Who is it here that believes the Church is the guilty party in this world of $h^t produced by Jews?
poor victim church that brought the parasites in and protects colloborates and corroborates with them to this day...

piles of "gott mitt uns" occured for what people voluntarily believed...

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Who is it here that keeps failing to back up what they say? Who is it here who runs from answering straight out questions with straight answers?
did i miss something?

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Your little caveats sound very fine indeed but they apply to you as much as anyone else and thus far you've ignored history whenever it suits.
even as a child I never believed 6 million were gassed...the physics of it would be too absurd...

as absurd as me being mad at joos for making me believe them

or wishing for a "real" holocaust

or me being jooish
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: Vidarr on January 06, 2012, 06:12:30 AM
so you dont deny it was done?...there are those who do

Why should i ?
It is still done to this day, they only changed the method.
From active euthanising, to passive "taking off of life support" eventhough the latter sounds nicer it is actually worse than the first  as it will fill the last moment with unnecessary suffering.
Also preventive checkups will allow doctors to perform abortions in case of severely deformed or handicapped children. So they no longer have to euthanise it postnatal. 
But either way the result is the same. Death
An unsustainable life is put to an end.



Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: WaltDisney on January 06, 2012, 08:09:40 AM
right...

 luckily they are the only ones that wrote of the nazi's eugenics program

obviously the catholic church protested a non existant mercy killing program...

1 Minute the Church protects Jews,  the other minute they are involved in sanctioning of killing them, and Either way you protest.

Id really like to read a cogent and intellectually stimulating argument or thought of yours, Clefty, but as of yet, it hasnt been delivered.  I feel like I need a translator after reading your jarbled jargon, Zioganda disinfo.

I give you the benefit of the doubt, from the inbreeding and all, but come on man...try harder.
Out of 3 million sperm, were YOU reallly the fastest?






(http://www.biyokulule.com/sawiro/sawirada_waaweyn/Ultra-Orthodox%20Jews2.jpg)
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 06, 2012, 09:06:43 AM
1 Minute the Church protects Jews,


what part of the post

"Bishop Clemens von Galen was perhaps the most effective of clerical protesters to the Euthanasia program." did you get confused by silly?

the church did protest against eugenics sterilization and "mercy killings" (a moral "high point" claimed by all other catholics but you...)

...but you posted your silly disney cartoon to infer I lied about the nazi eugenics programs

 
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the other minute they are involved in sanctioning of killing them, and Either way you protest.
...I merely protest the church's leading to massive body counts of "gott mit uns" white europeans fighting to either protectt the holy lands or re-establish it...in support of joos

its the joos that claim the catholic nazis killed them...and ironically you deny it...(even though your church protested against the killings)...

but at the same time  you insist the church killed joos to protect europe ...

i understand why you are so easily confused...

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Id really like to read a cogent and intellectually stimulating argument or thought of yours, Clefty, but as of yet, it hasnt been delivered.  I feel like I need a translator after reading your jarbled jargon, Zioganda disinfo.

I give you the benefit of the doubt, from the inbreeding and all, but come on man...try harder.
Out of 3 million sperm, were YOU reallly the fastest?

feel better?

weak insult weaker attack...but both are better than your attempts to defend your global corporate religious state

btw-nice find for your pictures of joos fetish...
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 06, 2012, 09:18:19 AM

Why should i ?
It is still done to this day, they only changed the method.
From active euthanising, to passive "taking off of life support" eventhough the latter sounds nicer it is actually worse than the first  as it will fill the last moment with unnecessary suffering.
Also preventive checkups will allow doctors to perform abortions in case of severely deformed or handicapped children. So they no longer have to euthanise it postnatal. 
But either way the result is the same. Death
An unsustainable life is put to an end.



did the nazis euthanize? if you say yes... did they use gas?

that's the origin of the gassing stories is what I suspect...is all
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: Rudi Jan on January 06, 2012, 10:31:03 AM
no, not an absolute idiot just dumb enough to forget how sensitive you are...

Not sensitive... just angered by your obtuse idiocy.

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did or do you believe 6 million were gassed? are you that gullible? believe anything? are you that lazy?

What makes you think I believe that nonsense? Whereever have I stated my belief in such Joo BS? Where do you come up with this stuff?

The rest of your diatribe isn't worth commenting on. In fact most everything you 'contribute' here is only fit to be ignored.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: WaltDisney on January 06, 2012, 11:20:09 AM
"Bishop Clemens von Galen was perhaps the most effective of clerical protesters to the Euthanasia program." did you get confused by silly?
A misinformed cleric.

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the church did protest against eugenics sterilization and "mercy killings" (a moral "high point" claimed by all other catholics but you...)
And still does, but sometimes war is war and difficult decisions must be made.

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...but you posted your silly disney cartoon to infer I lied about the nazi eugenics programs

There was No eugenics as a kind of official policy. Germany was busy fighting 2 wars on 2 front.
Ironically,  Jews today maintain Laws of Jew ONLY Marriage TODAY in Israel, if that not Eugenics, I dont know what is..and yet I never see you denounce it.


 
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...I merely protest the church's leading to massive body counts of "gott mit uns" white europeans fighting to either protectt the holy lands or re-establish it...in support of joos

We have an Inhereant right to protect our Holy Lands and in this case, reestablish it, it was  taken by force from Muslims and now, Jews.  Id like to see it reclaimed by the Church.


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its the joos that claim the catholic nazis killed them...and ironically you deny it...(even though your church protested against the killings)...
 
Jews claim 6-8 million died in a 2 car Vented garage sized room by bug spray too..if you buy that lie, I cant help you. 
Protesting mercy killings is different than work camps where they spent their time (Work makes You Free) was Hitlers dirty joke on them and why he is still so villfied.


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but at the same time  you insist the church killed joos to protect europe ...
There was no mass campaign of J*w  'Killing', except whites killing whites via a Jew sponsored war, and Communists leading the charge,
The realty was that killing was for defense of Europe and Western civliization that war was fought (on the part of Germany, Italy, Crotia and Franco's Spain.

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i understand why you are so easily confused...
feel better?
weak insult weaker attack...but both are better than your attempts to defend your global corporate religious state
None of us are confused, xcept from reading your posts, which havent made sense whilst sober, if I can conjure up some mushrooms, I might better interpret what point youre trying to convey.



btw-nice find for your pictures of joos fetish...
THANKS.
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 06, 2012, 12:41:07 PM

What makes you think I believe that nonsense?
I dont think you do...I was asking if you ever did...because others did and they remain angry and hateful and wish for "real" holocausts

so why the anger? and why is the anger justified?...

you said that 3 generations were "not so blind" by their anger but justified ...

justified to do what? continue the malice until  a "real" holocaust occurs.... which was being advocated...


 
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 06, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
A misinformed cleric.
wow...so the sterliizations, and mercy killings are ok?...not a typical catholic response

he remains a hero for catholics....but you...ok i understand

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And still does, but sometimes war is war and difficult decisions must be made.
those sterilizations and mercy killings were not war related but to build the racial ideal...
 
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There was No eugenics as a kind of official policy.
oh ok...

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Germany was busy fighting 2 wars on 2 front.
and that's the reason you claim there was no eugenics policy?

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Ironically,  Jews today maintain Laws of Jew ONLY Marriage TODAY in Israel, if that not Eugenics, I dont know what is..and yet I never see you denounce it.
I started this thread to reveal the irony, absurdity and hypocrisy of israel and its joos...could you please consider that as a denouncement?


   
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We have an Inhereant right to protect our Holy Lands and in this case, reestablish it, it was  taken by force from Muslims and now, Jews.  Id like to see it reclaimed by the Church.
yup just like jesus said to do...

inherent right? wow...a world recliamed by the corporate state...I understand

 
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Jews claim 6-8 million died in a 2 car Vented garage sized room by bug spray too..if you buy that lie, I cant help you. 
I dont buy it either...

sadly your church doesnt stop the sales...and dont blame V2 or your alleged empty seat...

but your universil order is being reclaimed...



Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: clefty on January 06, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
Seems like circular logic, God punishing the Zios by allowing them to boost Hitler, making non-zio jews suffer & leading to creation of Israel?!  Well the old Hebe God never worried much about collateral damage.


but it does undermine zionism....


Orthodox Jews to Protest Israel Wearing Yellow "Jude" Stars - TODAY
PR Newswire – Thu, Jan 5, 2012

The ideology of Zionism is both the transformation of Judaism from religion and subservience to the Almighty, to base material nationalism, and a plan to end our Heavenly-decreed exile through our own actions. Both of these concepts are totally contradictory to the true Jewish belief. The Almighty alone will bring our redemption. We are expressly forbidden to take any action to end exile."

"Therefore, all the great sages and leaders of Judaism in past generations, have stood in total opposition to Zionism and the existence of the State of 'Israel'.

http://news.yahoo.com/orthodox-jews-protest-israel-wearing-yellow-jude-stars-142205578.html
Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: Vidarr on January 06, 2012, 01:20:15 PM

Did the nazis euthanize?

Yes

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if you say yes... did they use gas?
No

Title: - Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest
Post by: Vidarr on January 06, 2012, 01:31:30 PM

 those sterilizations and mercy killings were not war related but to build the racial ideal...

No they were meant to end unnecessary suffering and to prevent the passing on of that suffering onto their  offspring. Because the nazis considered that no man has the right to burden a child with the agony of hereditary diseases.