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Chrismukkah cards merge both holidays
« on: December 01, 2004, 11:28:02 AM »
   

Wednesday, December 1, 2004
Chrismukkah cards merge both holidays
Interfaith seasonal greetings meld Christian and Jewish themes in a respectful design for both.
By Matt Sedensky / Associated Press

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Every December, Zack and Hilary Rudman used to send out nonsectarian cards with winter scenes and generic holiday greetings.

Now, however, Zack Rudman, a Kansas City lawyer, has found a variety that seems to better suit a Jewish man and an Episcopal woman with two young children as familiar with the menorah as with a manger scene.

These cards proclaim: "Merry Chrismukkah!"

"I'm all for holiday cards but I want to make sure when we send something it respects both sides of our family," Rudman said. "I always like to deal with religious differences with humor. These were right up my alley."

Christmas and Hanukkah, two holidays that seem to share little more than a calendar page, are increasingly being melded on greeting cards aimed at the country's estimated 2.5 million families with both Jewish and Christian members.

"It's representative of the way people live and the way they spend the holidays," said Elise Okrend, an owner of Raleigh, N.C.-based MixedBlessing, a card company devoted to interfaith holiday greetings.

MixedBlessing was among the first to come out with holiday cards intended for Jewish-Christian families about 15 years ago and still may be the only company focusing entirely on that market segment.

In its first year, it sold about 3,000 cards. This year, Okrend projects sales of 200,000 cards off its 55-card line. Kansas City-based Hallmark Cards Inc. says one of its most popular categories of Hanukkah cards combines Jewish and Christian themes.

"The essence of these cards is not about interfaith households as much as it is about friends and family members of different faiths acknowledging the different holidays that they all celebrate," said Shalanda Stanley, a Hallmark product manager.

American Greetings Corp. has about 10 Hanukkah-Christmas line offerings this year.

The newest player is Chrismukkah. Ron Gompertz founded the company this year with his wife, inspired by the Fox series "The O.C." in which character Seth Cohen, whose mother is Protestant and whose father is Jewish, coins the term.

As with anything addressing religion, though, card makers are careful not to offend. Chrismukkah even offers a disclaimer: "We respect people's different faiths and do not suggest combining the religious observance of Christmas and Hanukkah."

Gompertz explains: "Our intention wasn't to merge the religious aspects but rather the secular aspects of the holidays."

   

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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2004, 12:39:52 PM »
LoLoLoLoL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the laugh Joe - your response was hilarious :lol:

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2004, 01:30:06 PM »
http://migl22.freeserverhost.com/html/christmascenter.html



 The symbols of Christmas, their Origins and
Today a Wiccan Practice.

Disclaimer ,

(This page will be completed soon more to come.)

Before I get into the origins of the ancient symbols of Christmas, there are a
few things you should know.

This page is made to educate you about the truth behind the symbols of
Christmas, the original meaning and how the Roman Catholic Church came
to paganise Christianity by introducing these things. Thus the origins have
nothing to do with Jesus Christ, nor is this White Festival ever associated
with a true Christian practice.

This would be the equivilent of celebrating Ramadan and turning it into a
"Christian" version of the Quran justifying it by saying that the name of
Jesus is mentioned in the Quran, that because the name of Jesus is being
used this is makes it ok. However it is not the God of the Bible, and Jesus
of Christmas is not the Jesus of the Bible either.

The Lord says in Ezekiel 20:39, "As for you, O house of Israel, thus says the
Lord God: "Go, serve every one of you his idols--and hereafter--if you will not
obey me; but profane My holy name no more with your gifts and your idols."

When children grow up and learn the truth about Santa, they question
whether, or not, Christ is also a myth?

The Prophet Jeremiah says in Jer 10:3 - 5 "For the customs of the peoples
are futile; For one cuts a tree from the forest,

...The work of the hands of the workman, with the axe..



...They decorate it with silver and gold;...




...They fasten it with nails and hammers So that it will not topple...



They are upright, like a palm tree, And they cannot speak; They must be
carried, Because they cannot go by themselves. Do not be afraid of them,
For they cannot do evil, Nor can they do any good".




In history we read that the Puritans knew the truth about Christmas and
so they said it as a pagan holiday, they understood the origins of it.

I believe that people should study the background of Christmas more in
depth, and, as the bible puts it "....Learn not the way of the heathen....."

The fact is that Christmas lies about Jesus and the Bible, which is contrary
to the indtruction given to us in Colossians 3:9 Lie not one to another,
seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

We are also commanded in Ephesians 4:25 "Wherefore putting away lying,
speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of
another."

We should preach Jesus not Christmas. Some parents would say that this
is "to take a child's joy away from them". One thing parents don't know,
and children do not understand, is the paganism behind Christmas.
Surely there is some other way of instructing a child using some alternative
means other than celebrating a pagan holiday?

Statement by Miguel Hayworth.
Director/Firstplumbline Apologetics

click on the following link to go to the article.

http://migl22.freeserverhost.com/html/christmascenter.html

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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2004, 02:15:11 PM »
On the show the O.C., there is a married couple. The man is gentile, the wife is Jewish. Their son refers to the Christmas Holiday as Chrismukkah. Yes I watched the O.C. last year. So sue me. :lol:

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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2004, 01:52:04 PM »
Notice there is no Christ in Chrismukkah.  

 :arrow: Observe Chrismukkah "To me however it is a pathetic piece of tripe that totally turns the story and the lessons of Chanukah upside down. But what the hey, us Jews may now feel free to celebrate Chanukah in a way that is completely divorced from the spiritual underpinnings of the holiday, just like our Christian neighbours! Merry Chrismukah indeed, fellow Hellenists."  Note the sarcasm ...  :roll:
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2004, 07:34:12 AM »
well christmas was never in the bible so i need not practice it plus it would save me money yey i can go on holiday abroad.

http://www.biblicalholidays.com/Hanukkah/messiah_in_hanukkah.htm

Messianic Significance of Chanukah
The Messiah in Hanukkah

The law did not require Jews to be at the Temple in Jerusalem, as this was not one of the pilgrimage festivals. Every one observed it in his own place, not as a holy time. Jesus was there that He might improve those eight days of holiday for good purposes.

Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon`s porch when the Sadduciens asked him `How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ tell us.` They pretended to want to know the truth, as if they were ready to embrace it; but it was not their intention. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father`s name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me (John 10:25-27). He had told them, and they believed not; why then should they be told again, merely to gratify their curiosity?
Miracles

Hanukkah`s theme is of a miracle. During Hanukkah Jesus spoke of His miracles: If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him (John 10:37-38). Jesus wanted the people of his day to see His miracles and believe in Him as a result. His miracles point to his divine and messianic identity. In this way Yeshua personifies the message of Hanukkah: God actively involved in the affairs of his people. Hanukkah reminds us that God is a God of miracles, not just of concept and religious ideals. He has broken through into human history and continues to do so today. All of us who know Yeshua can speak of God`s working in our lives (Gilman 1995).
Jesus is the Light of the World

Jesus preached three sermons in which he declared Himself the `light of the world,` and all three could have been during Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights. (It is not clear from the text when this incident happened, but it was some time between the Feast of Tabernacles and the Feast of Dedication (Hanukkah); both of these celebrations focused on light).
Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them (John 12:35-36).

Just before Jesus announced that He was the Light of the world, Jesus had shone upon the conscience of those who accused the adulteress. Read the story in John Chapter 8. John also records Jesus healing a blind man (9:1-12) at about the same time (8:12 and 9:5) that Jesus declared himself to be the Light of the world. When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing (John 9:5-7).
End Times

The story of Hanukkah can be compared with end-time happenings described in the books of Revelation and Daniel. Antiochus is a type of the antichrist. Just as happened under the rule of Antiochus, Daniel prophesied in Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The same powers promoted by Antiochus are in the world today. Worldwide immorality, and idolatry are the norm. We must come out and be separate. And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. The deceiver stands waiting to devour in this present culture (2 Cor. 6:16-17).
Was Jesus Conceived on Hanukkah?

Many believe that our Messiah, the `light of the world,` was conceived on the festival of lights`”Hanukkah. The Bible does not specifically say the date of Jesus` birth. It was not during the winter months because the sheep were in the pasture (Luke 2:8). A study of the time of the conception of John the Baptist reveals he was conceived about Sivan 30, the eleventh week (Luke 1:8-13, 24). Adding forty weeks, for a normal pregnancy reveals that John the Baptist was born on or about Passover (Nisan 14). Six months after John`s conception, Mary conceived Jesus (Luke 1:26-33); therefore Jesus would have been conceived six months after Sivan 30 in the month of Kislev`”Hanukkah. Was the `light of the world,` conceived on the festival of lights? Starting at Hanukah, which begins on Kislev 25 and continues for eight days, and counting through the nine months of Mary`s pregnancy, one arrives at the approximate time of the birth of Jesus at the Festival of Tabernacles. (See the Tabernacle chapter.)

Christmas is not officialy about Jesus Christ.

The catholic Church tryed to christianise pagan holidays it had the opposite effect.