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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2006, 03:08:18 PM »
Irving .......He never lost his assets to Debra Lipstadt, he lived in a $10,000 a month apartment. His lawsuit was a gift to the Holocaust lobby.

Duke........He is just a little too convenient

Most people just don't fathom how deep these yhid's schemes go. Thy don't think like a normal person, and they live by information. Your car gets a GPS, a remote audio transmitter, your credit cards are monitored, a web cam is set up, etc etc. They find all your doctors, dentist, neighbors, that have any strain of Jewish, and they use them.  If Duke and Irving were real, they would have been set up years ago.

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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2006, 05:24:13 PM »
I got this from the Wikipedia:
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Aftermath
Not only did Irving lose the case, but in light of the evidence presented at the trial a number of his works that had previously escaped serious scrutiny were brought to public attention. He was also liable to pay the substantial costs of the trial, which ruined him financially and subsequently forced him into bankruptcy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving
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Anyway, even if he managed to get his wealth back after this episode - I don't know about his current financial status - I don't believe he was working for the Jews.


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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2006, 05:14:30 AM »
i am not surpised that it is you who thinks "David Irving isnt working for the jews"


- interestingly Faurisson, Toben, Rudolf have different opinion....
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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2006, 05:44:14 AM »
i am not surpised that it is you who thinks "David Irving isnt working for the jews"


- interestingly Faurisson, Toben, Rudolf have different opinion....

I was - "shocked & befuzzled" in fact...

His and the other endorsement are good indicators of my reluctance having been 'misplaced' - a.k.a. out to lunch.

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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2006, 06:11:33 AM »
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Most people just don't fathom how deep these yhid's schemes go. Thy don't think like a normal person, and they live by information. Your car gets a GPS, a remote audio transmitter, your credit cards are monitored, a web cam is set up, etc etc. They find all your doctors, dentist, neighbors, that have any strain of Jewish, and they use them.

Agreed oh mighty SKUNK.

They are the only people I know with a fixation on putting camera's on things. Whether it be sniper rifles or radio controlled toy tanks...they just have to stick a camera on it. It's a long story.



Is Irving a "plant"? I think not. But he does love the fame, and he does come accross as a little immature in some ways like a naughty English school boy. I bet some one stroked his ego enough that he thought he could go to Austria and get away with it. He reminds me of someone easy to "excite" and manipulate. I think his ego got a severe battering. Getting locked up is a strange experience as I found out via a less noble charge.

Same with Duke. I believe he's genuine but a dupe nonetheless.

I'm with Eustace Mullins...if they're on the telly...forget 'em.

I'm not waiting for David Duke/Irving to tell it like it is. I'M telling it like it is to anyone who will listen and getting results. Stick to the facts, know you're subject matter and dont back off...in fact go harder. If this cant be done then one should keep their big mouth shut. - Cant do the time? Dont do the "crime". Theirs no shame in that. Irving should stay at home and write a novel. He is clearly not up to it just like a "big wave surfer" who is all balls on the beach and a no go in the water when the moving mountain comes calling. Irving headed for the channel and the paddle in as soon as the going got tough. He should have stayed on the beach.

Is a segment of the population trying to kill us or is it a "debators" club? I have ZERO illusions about what the future holds. It is going to get REAL messy and the sad fact is all people have to do is say ..."no", and ..."we know where you live, dont do it". The jig would be up and we could move onto stringing up Pagans like MYSTICA for heresy against the Church and trying to blame "The Hydra" for it all.


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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2006, 06:17:04 AM »
i am not surpised that it is you who thinks "David Irving isnt working for the jews"


- interestingly Faurisson, Toben, Rudolf have different opinion....

But don't you know? WE'RE ALL working for the Jews.


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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2006, 07:59:39 AM »
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Duke........He is just a little too convenient

Most people just don't fathom how deep these yhid's schemes go. Thy don't think like a normal person, and they live by information. Your car gets a GPS, a remote audio transmitter, your credit cards are monitored, a web cam is set up, etc etc. They find all your doctors, dentist, neighbors, that have any strain of Jewish, and they use them.  If Duke and Irving were real, they would have been set up years ago.

Yes he is, no former clan member of his stature would not know who the founder of the KKK is, Albert Pike. You are right, they held nearly complete control over 100 years ago. Their grip has only become stronger as technology has increased. And like you said, real threats to them are dealt with, Duke and Irving prance about the world telling one side of the story and receiving token abuse. There was a really good reason why Adolf disbanded all Masonic Lodges in every country he held power. At the heart of Jewish culture is their sacred Talmudist religion. These guys worship Moloch, the same god found in the Bohemian Grove. It seems Judaism has pervaded into this gentile form known as Freemasonry. This is also why guys like Bush have been seen with a Talmud. People say these guys preform odd rituals which have been directly linked to different Babylonian gods via Judaism. If you have ever read parts of the Talmud you would know why these guys think the way they do. I'm way to small potatoes for these guys to care about.
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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2006, 08:31:48 AM »

David Dukes writes: "This book is ultimately about lessening both the dangers and the hatreds between our peoples." Then he states: "It would be wrong to hate or persecute present day Jews because of the role of Jewish leaders in the crucifixion of Jesus Christ." Excuse me Mr. Duke, what ever happened to the fact that the Jews themselves said, "His blood be on us and on our children!"? Fine, let's toss that aside (for now). Today's Jew doesn't necessarily need to be blamed for all of the injustices committed by their forefathers since their own injustices will suffice.  ;D

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415 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alexandria
554 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocese of Clement (France)
561 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocese of Uzzes (France)
612 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Spain
642 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Empire
855 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
876 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sens
1012 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
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1322 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France (again)
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1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hielbronn (Germany)
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Saxony
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1360 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1370 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Belgium
1380 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1388 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1420 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lyons
1421 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Fribourg
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Zurich
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cologne
1432 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Savoy
1438 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1439 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Augsburg
1442 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1444 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1446 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Breslau
1454 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1462 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1483 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1484 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1485 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vincenza (Italy)
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spain
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
1495 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Portugal
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nuremberg
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Navarre
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenberg
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prussia
1514 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1515 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1519 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Regensburg
1533 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1541 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1542 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague & Bohemia
1550 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1551 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1555 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pesaro
1557 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1559 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1567 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1569 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Papal States
1571 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1593 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg, Austria
1597 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cremona, Pavia & Lodi
1614 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frankfort
1615 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Worms
1619 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kiev
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ukraine
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Poland
1649 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hamburg
1654 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1656 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Oran (North Africa)
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1670 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1712 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sandomir
1727 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1738 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurtemburg
1740 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague, Bohemia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Livonia
1745 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moravia
1753 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kovad (Lithuania)
1761 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bordeaux
1772 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia)
1775 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1789 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alcace
1804 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages in Russia
1808 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages & Countrysides (Russia)
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lubeck & Bremen
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria
1820 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bremen
1843 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russian Border Austria & Prussia
1862 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Area in the U.S. under Grant's Jurisdiction
1866 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Galatz, Romania
1880s - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1891 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moscow
1919 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria (foreign born Jews)
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1948 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Arab Countries
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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2006, 09:07:27 AM »
In Britain, the loser has to pay the defense costs. But after losing his appeals, Irving declared bankruptcy. Lipstadt decided that it wasn`t worth her time and energy, not to mention huge sums, to go after any of his assets.




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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2006, 09:11:58 AM »
I am not surpised that it is you who thinks "David Irving isnt working for the jews"

Oh my G_d, now everyone is mad at me.  Why me, what have I done?

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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2006, 09:22:27 AM »


I was - "shocked & befuzzled" in fact...

His and the other endorsement are good indicators of my reluctance having been 'misplaced' - a.k.a. out to lunch.


I am afraid you are the only one that knows what you meant. Who is 'His', who is 'the other endorsement', what is your 'reluctance'?


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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2006, 10:10:12 AM »
Good post, if everyone could see this list.
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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2006, 11:15:49 AM »
Agreed oh mighty SKUNK.

What a suckhole!!!

[/quote]The jig would be up and we could move onto stringing up Pagans like MYSTICA for heresy against the Church and trying to blame "The Hydra" for it all.[/quote]

Where's my obligatory 'flag'? ... for mentioning me in your post, in a topic that I have not participated in, in any debatable way.

Is that your REAL gripe with me? That I don't believe in "your" God??
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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2006, 12:16:01 PM »
Good post, if everyone could see this list.
Not enough people read forums like these and of those who do, few are sincere truth-seekers. It seems that the vested interest(s) lie in the hands of the enemy.
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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2006, 12:22:43 PM »
Oups- I did flag you without providing a translation - how insensitive of me...

If you would have any stamina, you would eventually have reached " - out to lunch". But no...

Missing translation:
You must be right about Irvine - never mind the 'complicated' process involved to come to that conclusion - 'K?

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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2006, 01:05:37 PM »
You would have made a great Air Traffic Controller

PROMEIO: --------- "Turn to a heading of 340 degrees, decend to flight level 2,000, fly direct to the outer marker"

HEAD CONTROLLER: --- "Six jets just collided at the outer marker"

PROMEIO: ------------ "I know nothing"

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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2006, 01:39:50 PM »
Is Irving a "plant"? I think not. But he does love the fame, and he does come accross as a little immature in some ways like a naughty English school boy. I bet some one stroked his ego enough that he thought he could go to Austria and get away with it. He reminds me of someone easy to "excite" and manipulate. I think his ego got a severe battering. Getting locked up is a strange experience as I found out via a less noble charge.

I agree with you for the same kind of reasons, but think we are both wrong as it stands now.

People forget that he is a 'reluctant' player, by his own description. The guy had it made. Celebrated, living high, lots of jewish 'friends' from the promotion/publishing scene (oh vey). He is convinced they appreciate his research prowess. Then, one day, he wakes up to see all the publishers running away from him, bookstores removing his books from the shelf, the BBC no longer calls, his 'friends' gone. WTF, he says to himself, and not being exactly a dim bulb, puts one plus one together and gets jwo - he must have accidentally touched on something inconvenient. He lashes back in character - more arrogant bully than wise. The rest is history... He's probably not so much shilling for the tribe, as he is letting himself be manipulated in a delusional attempt to preserve some comfort. The result is the same... but

I'm uneasy with those "black and white", "with us or against us" criteria often demanded of others - that's typical, medieval, talmudic garbage, leading inevitably to fratricide. How well and how long would any of us hold up in the spot(target)light? We can commit all kids of fuck-ups, but the one thing we must never do - in my opinion - is trying to become them. We would be toast, because depravity is the one area they'll always have us beat...

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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2006, 04:55:56 PM »
12/20/2006
David Irving Released from Prison in Austria
Posted under: General`” @ 8:58 am
 

David Irving Finally FREE!

David Duke`s comments: I think it is the first great result of the Holocaust Conference. In a number of interviews on prominent media I constantly shamed the media all over Europe by protesting David Irving`s imprisonment. This may be the first concrete benefit of the Holocaust Conference: a great historian has finally been freed. Jailing men and women for questioning aspects of the Holocaust is an issue finally brought to the fore! Here is one of many media articles sent to Davidduke.com from Europe.

Historian David Irving has been freed from prison in Austria after serving 13 months of a three-year sentence for Holocaust denial.

Court observers in Austria believe that the early release was at least partially a result of publicity of the recent Holocaust Conference in Iran that focused attention on his an other scholars imprisonment in European nations. The imprisonment of Irving, as well as Ernst Zundel and Gemar Rudolf in Germany is becoming an increasing source of embarrassment in a Europe where political leaders often criticize Muslim nations for lack of free speech. In a number of worldwide interviews from Tehran, the controversial former member of the House of Representatives and former KKK member David Duke focused on Irving`s imprisonment on interviews widely aired in Austria and around Europe.

Irving, who was arrested when he visited the country for a speaking engagement last year, was told by a court in Vienna today that he would serve the rest of his sentence on probation.

The court had heard arguments from the defence, calling for the sentence to be reduced, and from prosecutors who were demanding a tougher sentence.

Irving told reporters outside the court that he was `fit and well`.

He was detained under Austria`s strict legislation against denying the Holocaust under an arrest warrant dating back to 1989. It concerned two speeches he made in the country 17 years ago, during which prosecutors say he claimed that there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz and that Hitler had protected Jews.

Deborah Lipstadt, the American academic who successfully defended a libel case against Irving in 2000 after she branded him a Shoah denier, has said she disagreed with the sentence.

Irving claimed at the time of the libel action that he had not denied the Holocaust but had questioned the number of Jews killed and denied that they were systematically exterminated.


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This is a great victory for free speech! Duke should be considered a hero!
Hopefully Ernist Zundel will be next!
My agenda is to unite white people with a common goal of survival!

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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2006, 05:09:47 PM »
That's 12 pilots, some riff-raff and a large debris field for scientific study - what have you ever accomplished?

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Re: David Irving to Be Set Free
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2006, 05:18:24 PM »
Hopefully Ernst Zundel will be next!
That would be fantastic.  8)
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