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The Liberty, The Lobby & A Long List Of Lackeys
« on: May 03, 2006, 07:02:52 PM »
The Liberty, The Lobby
& A Long List Of Lackeys
By Douglas Herman
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What do John McCain, Hillary Clinton, George Bush and LBJ all have in common? Lackeys, every one, beholden to a tiny country, although NONE were born there.  That tiny country, Israel, which is smaller than San Bernardino County, California, sways American policy through a powerful and intimidating system of lobbyists. These lobbies influence US elected officials (lackeys) sent to Washington by naïve American voters, ostensibly to represent America but, in actuality, serving dual loyalties.
 
What do Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger, Jimmy Carter, Diane Feinstein and Robert McNamara all have in common? They unduly heed those lobbies---AIPAC, JINSA, ADL---and represent the interests of Israel, first and foremost, and those of America secondly.
 
When did this all begin, you ask? The pivotal moment might have begun nearly 40 years ago, perhaps longer. But the overt act that best reveals how US Presidents, Senators and Congressmen grovel and subjugate themselves before the wishes of the powerful elites of Israeli (many of them former terrorists), occurred on June 8, 1967.
 
On that day the lightly-armed, Navy Intelligence ship, USS Liberty, suffered an intense, unprovoked bombardment while lingering off the Sinai Peninsula. After circling the clearly marked ship for hours that morning, Israeli fighter jets and patrol boats bombed, strafed, napalmed and finally torpedoed the Liberty, killing 34 and wounding 174.
 
Still the Liberty would not sink.
 
Pleas for help from the stricken ship finally reached the nearby aircraft carrier, USS America. F-4 fighter planes catapulted from the deck to protect the burning ship.
 
According to Jeffrey St Clair, author of Grand Theft Pentagon, "Defense Secretary Robert McNamara became irate and ordered the jets to return: 'Tell the Sixth Fleet to get those aircraft back immediately!' McNamara's injunction was reiterated in saltier terms by Admiral David L. McDonald, the chief of Naval Operations: 'You get those fucking airplanes back on deck, and you get them back down.' The planes turned around. And the attack on the Liberty continued."
 
The defenseless Liberty endured the bombardment for two hours and, finally, the strafing of her life rafts.  While gutless American admirals abandoned their fellow Navy ship, a Russian ship finally answered her distress signal.
 
After the attack, the Pentagon and White House refused to find Israel culpable, instead threatening the shocked sailors. "As the wounded were being evacuated, an officer with the Office of Naval Intelligence instructed the men not to talk about their ordeal with the press," wrote St Clair.
 
Admiral McCain, father of the current senator, following orders like a good little careerist, conducted a sham hearing while abandoned his fellow Navy men to the interests of Israel. A 700 page Navy report concluded the two-hour attack had been a case of mistaken identity, although the Liberty flew a huge flag and carried her name and number prominently on bow and stern.
 
"The inquiry was headed by Rear Admiral Isaac C. Kidd. Kidd didn't have a free hand. He'd been instructed by Vice-Admiral McCain (the Senator's father) to limit the damage to the Pentagon and to protect the reputation of Israel."
 
Within a year the Pentagon and Israel enjoyed convivial relations and billions in military armaments flowed into friendly Israel.
 
Today, 40 years later, America, more than ever, cowers and grovels like a trained bear. We smash up one Middle East country and then another, sacrificing men, money and materials, making enemies as we go, serving the designs of greater Zion. As Henry Kissinger remarked:  "Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy."
 
Today those dumb, stupid animals breath in the radioactive toxins while doing the dirty work, ruining one nation while wrecking another, all for the benefit of which nuclear stronghold?
 
"Despite the fact that Israel has been developing nuclear material since 1958, the country has never formally acknowledged it has a nuclear arsenal. Analysts have estimated, however, that Israel is the fifth-largest nuclear power on the planet with much of its delivery systems technology funded by US taxpayers," wrote James C Moore.
 
How then does the moral and economic bankruptcy of America serve the average US citizen? How does the poisoning of half a million US servicemen benefit our nation? By doing the dirty work for fascist Israel, by wrecking Afghanistan, Iraq and (perhaps soon) Iran, the lackey leaders in Washington, who claim to represent American citizens, can rightly be seen as double-agents.
 
The Paul Wolfowitzes and Daniel Pipes and Richard Perles can be almost (But not quite) forgiven, as Jews, for blind allegiance to Israel and the mighty lobbies. But what sorry excuses will the Clintons, Carters, Bushes, Cheneys, McCains, Kerrys, Rumsfelds, Pelosis, McNamaras and Johnsons---not to mention nearly every member of the US House of Representatives----offer for doing the bidding of Israel?
 
No greater traitor exists who sends patriotic soldiers out to wreck other countries, while ruining and bankrupting his own, under the guise of national security. Even more evil still, to send US soldiers out to poison themselves while spreading toxins among an innocent and occupied populace, all while bankrupting both nations and enriching a few individuals.
 
When President Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara abandoned the crew of the USS Liberty to her fate, for the sake of some tiny country guilty of a massacre, they shamed an entire nation. They felt no loyalty to the US serviceman but, as cowards do, they lied and subverted justice.
 
Not surprisingly, many historians today consider LBJ and McNamara no better than war criminals. The same is true for Clinton and Kissinger, Rumsfeld and Bush. Disloyal to the average US serviceman and citizen, they cannot help but be viewed as war criminals, craven cowards, mini-Machiavellis, beholden to a tough lobby and a tiny nation.
 
If that lobby did not exist, the insignificant aspirations of Iran (The Mouse That Roared) would not be featured on the front pages of every US newspaper and every major news channel. Not a single American would care what they did, whether they wanted a bomb or a power plant.
 
Make no mistake: The USS Liberty happened exactly as the crew described it.  Today, America is the Liberty, the ship of state itself, and the same sort of cowardice and betrayal has occurred, the betrayal of servicemen and women, of citizens and taxpayers, of every trusting person who expects their leaders to serve and protect them. Unfortunately they are betrayed instead and America increasingly ruined.
 
Footnote:  Some historians believe the reason the USS Liberty was attacked was that Israeli Defense Forces feared the spy ship was listening as the IDF massacred 1000 prisoners. Others feel that Defense Minister, Moshe Dayan, ordered the ship sunk, hoping to blame the Egyptians---and thus cause an "Operation Northwoods" or 9-11 false-flag terror incident. Read more below.
 
Jeffrey St. Clair: When Israel Attacked the USS Liberty (Must Read)
 
Assault on the Liberty (Must Read)

http://www.rense.com/general70/libb.htm
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Re: The Liberty, The Lobby & A Long List Of Lackeys
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2006, 10:15:22 AM »
Footnote:  Some historians believe the reason the USS Liberty was attacked was that Israeli Defense Forces feared the spy ship was listening as the IDF massacred 1000 prisoners.

American pilots flying American planes were photographing the Egyptian army as it attempted to retreat from the Sinai, and the IDF massacres were the known result of that aerial photoreconnaissance.  There was nothing that the USS Liberty could have learned ~ which would have been classified TOP SECRET anyway ~ that was not already known to the U.S.

All such "feared the spy ship was listening" reasons are bogus.

Others feel that Defense Minister, Moshe Dayan, ordered the ship sunk, hoping to blame the Egyptians---and thus cause an "Operation Northwoods" or 9-11 false-flag terror incident.

The Egyptian air force had been destroyed on the ground, and the Egyptian army was being massacred in the desert, and there was nothing for America to attack.  The idea that the motive in attacking the Liberty was to "trick" Johnson into attacking Egypt is bogus.  Had Israel wanted Johnson to attack Egypt, Johnson would have done it and made up an excuse.  In fact, Johnson did attack Egypt by providing tactical air support in the Sinai against the Egyptian army, allowing the IDF to move troops to the Golan Heights earlier than they would have ~ which Johnson also knew.  The USS Liberty attack wasn't necessary at all for any of this, the planes had been in the Sinai for days before the attack.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2006, 10:58:21 AM »
Thank you for this added insight.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2006, 12:55:47 PM »
Quote from: link=topic=4723.msg34503#msg34503 date=1146766522
The idea that the motive in attacking the Liberty was to "trick" Johnson into attacking Egypt is bogus.  Had Israel wanted Johnson to attack Egypt, Johnson would have done it and made up an excuse.  In fact, Johnson did attack Egypt by providing tactical air support in the Sinai against the Egyptian army, allowing the IDF to move troops to the Golan Heights earlier than they would have ~ which Johnson also knew.  The USS Liberty attack wasn't necessary at all for any of this, the planes had been in the Sinai for days before the attack.


Ok Monsuier-

But why did the Jews attack the Liberty?

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2006, 01:11:09 PM »

Ok Monsuier-

But why did the Jews attack the Liberty?

You make it sound like the whole Jewish nation was involved in that one incident. Jews? How many Jews were their?
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2006, 01:12:18 PM »

Ok Monsuier-

But why did the Jews attack the Liberty?


Oh!  No!  Skunk and WRS are breaking ranks.

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2006, 03:25:40 PM »
You make it sound like the whole Jewish nation was involved in that one incident. Jews? How many Jews were their?

When referring to a cancer, it is an enity.  A person says: - "Too bad that Laconas has cancer". You never list the 100,000 individual cells.

When talking about Jews, the proper way is to refer to them as a enity.

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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2006, 04:09:34 PM »
But why did the Jews attack the Liberty?

To remind Johnson of how he became President and show Johnson, Congress, and everyone else who's "Boss" in America.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2006, 04:16:23 PM »
Oh!  No!  Skunk and WRS are breaking ranks.

Skunk has known that I disagree with his "Hey, Johnsongoy, attack Egypt" theory since he first posted it to Liberty Forum several years ago.  The only purpose the attack served was to demonstrate Israel's complete control over the American government and media.  It had no effect at all on the theater of operations in Palestine.

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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2006, 04:28:37 PM »
But why did the Jews attack the Liberty?

To remind Johnson of how he became President and show Johnson, Congress, and everyone else who's "Boss" in America.

ROTFLAMO... I'm sorry, WRS, but I can't believe what I am reading.

Do you also think Arab supermen attacked us on 9/11?
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2006, 04:29:30 PM »
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The only purpose the attack served was to demonstrate Israel's complete control over the American government and media.

Jews / Israelis control the world like the voices in your head. Do they also control those who are bias or speak out against them?
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2006, 04:35:54 PM »
But why did the Jews attack the Liberty?

To remind Johnson of how he became President and show Johnson, Congress, and everyone else who's "Boss" in America.

A couple pilots panicked due to extreme conditions and made an error in judgement.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2006, 07:17:32 PM »
But why did the Jews attack the Liberty?

To remind Johnson of how he became President and show Johnson, Congress, and everyone else who's "Boss" in America.

ROTFLAMO... I'm sorry, WRS, but I can't believe what I am reading.


You're not required or even expected to believe it.  It's merely information for those fluent in the mechanics of power.

Should you do the research, you will find that the Israelis long ago adopted ~ and published ~ a state policy of being unpredictably "rabid dog" erratic to foster the understanding among other nations that there was no way to know how Israel might overreact to the slightest provocation.  This was regarded by the leaders of Israel as a necessary means to preserve independence of action for their geographically, economically, demographically, and militarily minor country, to avoid becoming a "small power" dominated by "great powers" the way the Arab countries were at that time dependent on the Soviets.  Unlike the Soviets, the Americans would buy no influence over what happened in the Middle East with foreign or military aid.  It was successful and has been Israeli state policy ever since.

In history you'll find that it was drawn from the actuality of Israeli state policy before and after Solomon and after the Babylonian Captivity.  Solomon, you may recall, had the Queen of Sheba's throne brought to Jerusalem while she was en route to Jerusalem in obedience to his mandatory summons.  Even after submitting to Solomon, Bilqis was shown ~ physically ~ that Solomon had penultimate power over her kingdoms, able to simply take her literal "seat of government" without any fight at all and bring it to Jerusalem.

When Queen Bilqis left Jerusalem, married to him and pregnant with his son Menelik, Solomon ruled over the Arabian subcontinent and the entirety of Abysinnia ~ Bilqis' two dominions.  This completed Solomon's imperial dominion over the entire Promised Land:  see http://www.muslimamerica.net/gr/promised.gif for the map, which is relevant today because it is the actual "Greater Israel" to which today's Israelis aspire.  Solomon ruled it, so they think it's theirs.  It's part of their pact with The Lodge, made behind Solomon's back (although he knew about it), that when they should be deprived of the throne of Solomon, the Grand Master of The Lodge would restore them to it, which is how they were sent back after the Babylonian Captivity to build the Second Temple.

Solomon, to frustrate their scheme, sent the Throne of David and Solomon to Ethiopia ~ with the first-born sons of the heads of the tribes, the Ark of the Covenant, and his seal ring ~ when his son Menelik, crown prince of the two kingdoms of Bilqis, came to visit him as Solomon had instructed Bilqis. That's why the Hebrew Israelites of Africa had no knowledge of the Talmud, which came out of the Babylonian Captivity.  Of course, the leaders of Temple Israel deny all that.  But back to Johnson and the USS Liberty:

Johnson was publicly making imperious demands of Israel at the same time that he was fielding the USAF in the Sinai, to help "restore them to" the throne of Solomon.  He obviously needed the same lesson as Bilqis about his Oval Office "throne" that Israeli assassins gave him.  The attack on the USS Liberty was that lesson, and part and parcel of that "rabid dog" policy.

Israel callously attacked the helpless naval vessel of an immediate and active ally who was at that very moment fielding military forces in the combat theater alongside Israel forces attacking retreating armies.  The lesson:  "Israel might attack you while you're helping Israel fight someone else."  How unpredictable do you think "relations between countries" can get?  Only a nation that has complete power over another nation could do something like that with complete impunity.  That was the message from Moshe Dayan to Lyndon Johnson ~ and to everyone else.  Israel treated the United States the way that the US federal government treats the States ~ as a subordinate power ~ the way Solomon treated Bilqis.  That's what America has been for decades: an Israeli vassal.

America is permitted to serve Israel.  America owes Israel for the privilege.  That's the Israeli position.

Johnson and Congress and the media got the message, and buried it with falsehood ~ realizing that they had no choice but to do exactly that.  It was a repeat of the JFK coverup, except that it was not necessary to murder two hundred people in the following two years who "knew too much" and could not be reliably expected to remain silent.

Recall the comment in the "JFK Assassination" Thread:

There IS a culture of political murder in the US, it has been on high gear since Clinton has assumed power, it goes back at least 150 years and Israel, the Zionists and Mossad have nothing to do with it.

and my reply:

True, true, true, false.  The usual methodology.

Kennedy was killed, Johnson and Warren and Ford joined forces to cover up who did it.  "Others" took care of all the potential whistle-blowers.

The USS Liberty was attacked, Johnson and MacNamara and others joined forces to cover up the fact that it was a knowing, deliberate, cold-blooded act of war and several war crimes.  The primary potential whistle-blowers (the surviving crew) were silenced with threat of imprisonment and misrepresented in the media; the higher-level potential whistle-blowers mainly remained silent, although a few of them have now stepped forward, forty years after the event.

The only effect of the attack on the Liberty has been to consolidate and make plain ~ to those who are awake enough to see it, which includes every member of Congress ~ the stranglehold that Israel has on the American government and media.  It had no impact at all on what was going on in the Middle East.  It was aimed at Israeli-owned Johnson and the Israeli-owned Congress and the Israeli-owned media.

You could try reading Niccolo Machiavelli's The Prince, or better yet his writings on The Republic (about Rome, basically), and learn something about the mechanics of power.  Then, the purposes behind the attack on the USS Liberty would stand out like a sore thumb.

Do you also think Arab supermen attacked us on 9/11?

Shall I expect non-sequiturs from you?  "Arab supermen" would have simply thrown the planes at the Towers and flown away on their magic carpets.  Or maybe they would have just knocked the towers over with a kick.  What "Arab supermen" do you think were running the Israeli government when it attacked the USS Liberty?
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2006, 07:18:33 PM »
A couple pilots panicked due to extreme conditions and made an error in judgment.

And caught hell for refusing to attack the USS Liberty.
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2006, 07:21:36 PM »
I have read numerous times Johnson was a jew, he sure acted like one.

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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2006, 07:26:41 PM »
Shall I expect non-sequiturs from you?  "Arab supermen" would have simply thrown the planes at the Towers and flown away on their magic carpets.  Or maybe they would have just knocked the towers over with a kick.  What "Arab supermen" do you think were running the Israeli government when it attacked the USS Liberty?

Arabs had nothing to do with the attack on the USS Liberty.  My question about the Arab supermen was not related to the Liberty Incident... I meant it to be separate, I was curious as to whether or not you believe that Muslims perpetrated 9/11.

Back to the reason for the attack... The U.S. Army SAMS Report got it right IMO... Israel has the potential to attack American troops to make it look like an Arab act... False Flag.

I don't think Israel needed to prove who controls America or LBJ... they had just proved it a few years prior by having JFK killed IMO.

Edited to add:  I am an Aquarian, you can indeed expect non sequiturs from me... Aquarians are known for that.  :)
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2006, 07:56:05 PM »
I have read numerous times Johnson was a jew, he sure acted like one.

Johnson was Jewish. Ladybird had a lineage of Spanish Jewry through Mexico.

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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2006, 08:06:33 PM »
I don't agree with Judson, Laconas, WRS, and a host of others on certain specifics, but that's life. We agree on most things, and learn from each other.


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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2006, 09:35:35 PM »
A couple pilots panicked due to extreme conditions and made an error in judgment.

And caught hell for refusing to attack the USS Liberty.

Once again, you are posting a complete and total falsehood. There never was any such pilot.

The attacking planes broke off  - as ordered - after they began reading English characters off the hull of the ship. None were ever arrested.

Your constant positioning of this incident within the context of history, while perhaps admirable in erudition, tends crumble in the absence of proof that it was an intentional act on the part of the Israelis. And your continued posting of demonstrable falsehoods toward that end merely tamps the dirt.
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2006, 09:46:04 PM »
Once again, you are posting a complete and total falsehood.

Wow, Geli, thanks for your astounding insight.

There never was any such pilot.

Yes, we know ~ there was never anyone you referred to as "the pilot in question."

When are you going to stop making Judge Cristol look like an idiot for hiring you as his shill?
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