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http://www15.ocn.ne.jp/~oyakodon/newversion/hitlerinargentine.htm



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The photo above, allegedly taken in Chile, shows Adolf Hitler when he was over 90 years old, he died in Mendoza Argentina in December 1985, where he had spent forty years after fleeing the Reich in 1945, protected by the local Sephardic Jewish community and the Nazi SS.



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Hitler was a grandson of Baron Salomon Mayer Rothschild of Vienna, he was buried in a public cemetery in Palmero, 30 Miles southeast of Mendoza, he completed many paintings.


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Hanna Reitsch landed her Fieseler Fi 156 Storch in the  Tiergarten near the Brandenburg Gate, 26 April 1945, departing in a down wind take off 28 April, she had on board passengers Adolph Hitler and Eva Braun, whom she flew to Jugoslavia then under the military governorship of Sepp Deitrich head of the Waffen SS, where they remained until 1947 before taking regular sea passage to Argentina.

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- Hitler Deserted the Reich in 1945, and Lit Out for Argentina
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2013, 04:49:01 PM »
http://www.hitler.org/writings/last_testament/



Adolph Hitler: My political testament.

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More than thirty years have passed since 1914 when I made my modest contribution as a volunteer in the First World War, which was forced upon the Reich. In these three decades love and loyalty to my people have guided all my thoughts, actions and my life.  They gave me the strength to make the most difficult decisions ever to confront mortal man.  In these three decades I have spent my strength and my health.
 


It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939.  It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests.  I have made too many offers for the limitation and control of armaments, which posterity will not be cowardly enough always to disregard, for responsibility for the outbreak of this war to be placed on me. 

Nor have I ever wished that, after the appalling First World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America.  Centuries will go by, but from the ruins of our towns and monuments the hatred of those ultimately responsible will always grow anew against the people whom we have to thank for all this: international Jewry and its henchmen.

Only three days before the outbreak of the German-Polish war I proposed a solution of the German-Polish problem to the British Ambassador in Berlin - international control as in the case of the Saar.  This offer, too, cannot be lied away.  It was only rejected because the ruling clique in England wanted war, partly for commercial reasons and partly because it was influenced by the propaganda put out by international Jewry.

I have left no one in doubt that if the people of Europe are once more treated as mere blocks of shares in the hands of these international money and finance conspirators, then the sole responsibility for the massacre must be borne by the true culprits: the Jews. 

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Nor have I left anyone in doubt that this time millions of European children of Aryan descent will starve to death, millions of men will die in battle, and hundreds of thousands of women and children will be burned or bombed to death in our cities without the true culprits being held to account, albeit more humanely.


After six years of war which, despite all setbacks, will one day go down in history as the most glorious and heroic manifestation of the struggle for existence of a nation, I cannot abandon the city which is the capital of this Reich.  Since our forces are too meager to withstand the enemy's attack and since our resistance is being debased by creatures who are as blind as they are lacking in character,

I wish to share my fate with that which millions of others have also taken upon themselves by remaining in this city.  Further, I shall not fall into the hands of the enemy who requires a new spectacle, presented by the Jews, for the diversion of the hysterical masses.

I have therefore decided to stay in Berlin and there to choose death voluntarily when I determine that the position of the Fuhrer and the Chancellery itself can no longer be maintained.  I die with a joyful heart in the knowledge of the immeasurable deeds and achievements of our peasants and workers and of a contribution unique in the history of our youth which bears my name.

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That I am deeply grateful to them all is as self-evident as is my wish that they do not abandon the struggle but that, no matter where, they continue to fight the enemies of the Fatherland, faithful to the ideals of the great Clausewitz. 

Through the sacrifices of our soldiers and my own fellowship with them unto death, a seed has been sown in German history that will one day grow to usher in the glorious rebirth of the National Socialist movement in a truly united nation.

Many of our bravest men and women have sworn to bind their lives to mine to the end.  I have begged, and finally ordered, them not to do so but to play their part in the further struggle of the nation. 

I ask the leaders of the Army, the Navy and the Air Force to strengthen the National Socialist spirit of resistance of our soldiers by all possible means, with special emphasis on the fact that I myself, as the founder and creator of this movement, prefer death to cowardly resignation or even to capitulation.

May it become a point of honor of future German army officers, as it is already in our Navy, that the surrender of a district or town is out of the question and that, above everything else, the commanders must set a shining example of faithful devotion to duty unto death.

Before my death, I expel former Reichs-Marshal Hermann Goring from the party and withdraw from him all the rights that were conferred upon him by the decree of 29 June, 1941 and by my Reichstag statement of 1 September, 1939.  In his place I appoint Admiral Donitz as President of the Reich and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces.


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Before my death, I expel the former Reichsfuhrer of the S.S. and the Minister of the Interior Heinrich Himmler from the party and from all his state officers.  In his place I appoint Gauleiter Karl Hanke as Reichsfuhrer of the S.S. and Head of the German Police, and Gauleiter Paul Giesler as Minister of the Interior.

Apart altogether from their disloyalty to me, Goring and Himmler have brought irreparable shame on the whole nation by secretly negotiating with my enemy without my knowledge and against my will, and also by attempting illegally to seize control of the State.

In order to provide the German people with a government of honorable men who will fulfill the task of continuing the war will all the means at their disposal, I, as Fuhrer of the nation, appoint the following members of the new cabinet:

President of the Reich: Donitz
Chancellor of the Reich: Dr Goebbels
Party Minister: Bormann
Foreign Minister: Seyss-Inquart
Minister of the Interior: Gauleiter Giesler
Minister of War: Donitz
Supreme Commander of the Army: Schorner
Supreme Commander of the Navy: Donitz
Supreme Commander of the Air Force: Greim
Reichsfuhrer of the S.S. and Head of the German Police: Gauleiter Hanke
Trade: Funk
Agriculture: Backe
Justice: Thierack
Culture: Dr Scheel
Propaganda: Dr Naumann
Finance: Schwerin-Crossigk
Labor: Dr Hupfauer
Munitions: Saur
Leader of the German Labor Front and Minister without Portfolio: Dr Ley.


Although a number of these men, including Martin Bormann, Dr Goebbels and others together with their wives have joined me of their own free will, not wishing to leave the capital under any circumstances and prepared to die with me, I implore them to grant my request that they place the welfare of the nation above their own feelings. 

By their work and loyal companionship they will remain as close to me after my death as I hope my spirit will continue to dwell among them and accompany them always.  Let them be severe but never unjust and let them never, above all, allow fear to preside over their actions, placing the honor of the nation above everything that exists on earth. 

May they, finally, always remember that our task, the consolidation of a National Socialist state, represents the work of centuries to come, so that every individual must subordinate his own interest to the common good.  I ask of all Germans, of all National Socialists, men and women and all soldiers of the Wehrmacht, that they remain faithful and obedient unto death to the new government and its President.

Above all, I enjoin the government and the people to uphold the race laws to the limit and to resist mercilessly the poisoner of all nations, international Jewry. Adolf Hitler Berlin, 29 April, 1945, 4 a.m. Witnesses: Dr Joseph Goebbels, Wilhelm Burgdorf, Martin Bormann, Hans Krebs
                         


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http://sitesofmemory.twoday.net/stories/4261731/ http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,491332,00.html .. of 30,000 Germans sentenced to death by Nazi Germany's military courts during the Second World War, more than 15,000 were executed for deserting the ranks of the Wehrmacht.

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2013, 04:50:53 PM »
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Why didn't the Jews (Nazi hunters) come after them?



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Hitler and all of the senior Nazis were Jews, Ernst Rohm and the SA hierarchy the non Jewish Nazis, whose Zionist financed wickedness and thuggery brought H to power, were liquidated in the Night of the Long Knives Massacre of June 1934, after H was sworn in as German Chancellor January 31, 1933.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18941614/Bronder-Before-Hitler-Came-A-Historical-Study-English-Translation1975 .. The following tract, which was banned in Germany as soon as it appeared, is the main source for the claim Hitler and the Nazis were Jews - Before Hitler Came, by Dietrich Bronder: 1964. Of Jewish descent, or being related to Jewish families were,

   The Leader and Reichschancelor Adolf Hitler.

   Reichsminister Rudolf Hess.

   Reichsmarshall Hermann Goering.

   Reichsleader of the NSDAP Gregor Strasser.

   Dr. Josef Goebbels.

   Alfred Rosenberg.

   Hans Frank.

   Heinrich Himmler.

   Reichsminister von Ribbentrop.

   Von Keudell.

   Field commanders Globocnik, called the Jewish destructor.

   Jordan and Wilhelm Hube.

   SS Leaders Reinhard Heydrich,

   Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski,

   Von Keudell II, all of whom were active in the destruction of Jews.

The Communist / Bolshevik, movement completely devised and executed by Jewish master minds, or partly Jewish like Lenin, to full Jewish like so many of the Secret Police Chiefs, all the way to Marx & Trosky, as well the entire Nazi movement was Jew or half Jew! .. Dietrich Bronder was a German Jew.

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Sever Plocker  @ Ynet News assures us things were much the same in the Soviet Union - Stalin's Jews: We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish .. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

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- Hitler Deserted the Reich in 1945, and Lit Out for Argentina
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2013, 05:50:28 PM »
I suggest you read http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php/topic,23126.0.html

When you use quotes it is meant to quote another poster. Merely wrapping sentences in quote boxes doesn't tell us anything. So far your posts have very little clarity and are rather oblique. It would be nice if you state your position or perspective as it relates to the material you are posting.

And you will find that this admin does not care to be ignored. I posted a response to your post here: http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php/topic,25391.msg243565.html#msg243565 asking that you explain that particular post. I suggest you post an answer.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2013, 11:29:23 AM »
Damn, this Martin Timothy opened up an awful lot of new threads over a short span of time.

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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2013, 12:14:23 PM »
Damn, this Martin Timothy opened up an awful lot of new threads over a short span of time.

Threads I was not able to make heads or tails out of. Maybe it's just me.  ???
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2013, 01:29:11 PM »
For the record:

Debunking the “Hitler Escaped” Myths – Forensic evidence trumps rumours, theories and romantic tales
Posted on 06/17/2013



Did Hitler escape to Argentina or to a secret South Pole hideaway? I’m afraid not, but I’m sure there is money to be made in keeping such conspiracy theories afloat, and various agendas are served by it, primarily the agenda of fear and loathing. There are many who wish to portray Hitler as a coward and betrayer of his people by fleeing, while other armchair quarterbacks insist that his suicide is also evidence of coawardess and they apparently think he should have surrendered to become the center piece of the Nuremberg Flying Circus show trials; that some how such a spectacle would have been “honourable”. There are no doubt also many Hitler fans who have held a small hope in their hearts that the Fuehrer had actually out-smarted the ALL LIES,  got away, and lived the rest of his life happily ever after with his bride Eva Braun.  Well,  I am very sorry to disappoint you.  He did take his life in Berlin in 1945 and there is substantial verified and corroborated forensic evidence which proves it. The rumours of Hitler’s escape were started by none other than Joseph Stalin, shortly after Berlin fell. and the German forces were defeated.

I am going to borrow heavily here from Metapedia to lay out the general story and then add the forensic evidence from various sources which seals the deal and should put “paid” to this persistent rubbish that floats around the Internet in conspiracy theory circles.

“Hitler heroically had before the start of the second world war connected his personal fate with the outcome this war[1]. Not only in words, but also in deeds: he committed suicide on April 30 1945, when the war was irrevocably lost. His suicide is also stated by authentic witnesses, who also lived in the Führerbunker, and it can therefore be considered as a fact of history. Despite this, rumours and theories that Hitler survived the war are widespread and popular. And there are many theories about what happened with Adolf Hitler after the fall of Berlin. These are all hoaxes; not based on the facts. Some of such rumours and theories say that Hitler escaped to continue the National Socialist struggle from a different country. A particular popular version is the theory that Adolf Hitler would have escaped during the fall of Berlin in 1945 and gone to Argentina.

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The Soviets weren’t helpful on the matter of the German leader’s death.

“The Soviets continued to be difficult. They refused to allow Westerners into Berlin even after the surrender of Dönitz’s government and the last armies in the field on May 7-9. On May 10, they announced the existence of the burned bodies in the Chancellory courtyard, but only allowed that one might be Hitler. The same report went on to say that his body might never be found.

“On June 6, a spokesman for the Soviet army in Berlin announced unequivocally that Hitler had committed suicide and that his body had been identified. Three days later, Marshall Zhukov, the head of the Soviet army gave a press conference with Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Vishinski looking over his shoulder. ‘We did not identify the body of Hitler,’ he said. ‘I can say nothing definite about his fate. He could have flown away from Berlin at the very last moment.’”

In an interview on Deadline – Live, an Argentine news program, journalist Santiago Romero interviewed Abel Basti about Hitler’s escape, life in Patagonia, and the events that followed World War Two.

Interview with Basti:

Romero: What is your opinion on Hitler’s escape?

Basti: “Hitler escaped via air from Austria to Barcelona. The last stage of his escape was in a submarine, from Vigo, heading straight to the coast of Patagonia. Finally, Hitler and Eva Braun, in a car with a chauffeur and bodyguard—a motorcade of at least three cars—drove to Bariloche (Argentina).

“He took refuge in a place called San Ramon, about 15 miles east of that town. It is a property of about 250,000 acres with a lake-front view of Lake Nahuel Huapi, which had been German property since the early twentieth century, when it belonged to a German firm by the name of Schamburg-Lippe.”

Romero: “On what basis do you claim that Hitler was in Spain after leaving his Berlin bunker?”

Basti: “I was able to confirm the presence of Hitler in Spain thanks to a—now elderly—Jesuit priest, whose family members were friends of the National Socialist leader. And I have witnesses that allude to meetings he had with his entourage at the place where they stayed in Cantabria.

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Historians have generally agreed since the end of the Second World War that, staring defeat in the face, an increasingly feeble and paranoid Hitler had married Eva Braun in the bowels of his Berlin bunker after midnight on April 29, 1945, and later dictated his will. His physician Werner Haase, in response to Hitler’s questions, had recommended a dose of cyanide and a gunshot to the head as the most reliable form of suicide.

Hitler, convinced of the treason of SS leader Heinrich Himmler, doubted the reliability of the SS-supplied cyanide tablets and had one tested on his dog Blondi, after which the dog died.

Following lunch on April 30, with Soviet forces less than 500 metres from the bunker, Hitler and Eva said goodbye to staff and fellow occupants, including the Goebbels family, private secretary Martin Bormann and military officers.

They went into Hitler’s personal study at 2.30pm and at around 3.30pm some witnesses reported hearing a loud gunshot.

Those, including valet Heinz Linge, who went into the study reported the smell of almonds, consistent with cyanide gas. They said they saw Hitler slumped on his desk with a bullet wound to his head, a pistol on the floor and blood pooling on the arm of the sofa on which Eva lay beside him with no visible sign of injury. Several witnesses said the bodies were then carried up to the emergency exit and into a small bombed-out garden behind the Chancellery where they were doused with petrol and set alight, then buried in a small crater when the Soviet shelling made it unsafe for the cremation to continue. Seven and a half hours later, Red Army troops began storming the Chancellery and the remains of Hitler, his wife and two of his dogs were said to have been discovered in a shell crater by a Soviet soldier.
But were they?

The Soviet story changed regularly in the aftermath of the fall of Berlin and in the following years. Conspiracy theorists point to suggestions that:

Joseph Stalin told Western leaders at the Potsdam Conference in 1945 he believed Hitler may have escaped to Spain or South America.

Stalin’s top army officer, Marshal Georgy Zhukov, said: “We found no corpse that could be Hitler’s.”

The acting chief of the US trial counsel at Nuremberg, Thomas J Dodd, said: “No one can say he is dead.” The most convincing evidence of Hitler’s suicide came from the testimonies of those who were in the bunker — but they did not all agree on the details.

Hitler’s bodyguard Rochus Misch, the only survivor of the bunker still alive, told this year how he heard someone shout to Hitler’s valet, “Junge, Junge, I think it’s happened.”

After the bodies were carried upstairs, Misch said: “Someone shouted to me, ‘Hurry upstairs, they’re burning the boss!’ ” But Misch decided not to go, in case the “last witnesses” were shot. He was later captured after fleeing the bunker and spent eight years in Soviet prison camps. Details of a Soviet autopsy on the remains they found, released years later, apparently showed gunshot wounds and cyanide poisoning. The remains were repeatedly buried and exhumed by Russian agents during their relocation from Berlin to a new facility at Magdeburg. There, they were put in an unmarked grave with the bodies of propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels, his wife and their six children.

When the facility was due to be handed over to the East German government in 1970, the KGB, it is said, exhumed all ten bodies, burned them and threw the ashes in the river Elbe to prevent the area becoming a National Socialist shrine. They kept Hitler’s jaw and part of his skull — the fragment now thrown into doubt by US archaeologist Nick Bellantoni, who was given permission to examine the artefacts in the Russian state archive. Other discrepancies which have muddied the waters include a photo released by Soviets at the time of the fall of Berlin which purported to be the body of Hitler, shot in the forehead. It is now thought to be one of Hitler’s body doubles.

Others who believe he escaped subscribe to a variety of conspiracy theories. The most popular include one or more of these elements:…”  (continues)

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Escaped_To_Argentina_Theory
Forensic Evidence:

Hitler did die in Berlin in 1945.  A post-mortem was conducted and his dental records,  jaw bones, teeth and in particular, his dental bridge work have positively identified the remains of Adolf Hitler. The following link contains many articles on the subject, a few of which are very good, especially the one entitled:

“The Führer’s elaborate dental bridge work provides the key to a 50-year-old mystery, reports David Stephenson.”

Scroll down to Forensic Evidence:  http://justice4germans.com/2013/06/17/debunking-the-hitler-escaped-myths-forensic-evidence-trumps-rumours-theories-and-romantic-tales/
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