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LAPD shoot two innocent people in hunt for killer ex-cop
« on: February 07, 2013, 07:12:33 PM »
LAPD shoot two innocent people in hunt for killer ex-cop

Published: 07 February, 2013, 21:25
Edited: 08 February, 2013, 04:20
source: http://rt.com/usa/news/former-dorner-police-lapd-670/


Christopher Jordan Dorner (Reuters / Irvine Police Department / Handout)

California police have launched a manhunt for a former LAPD officer who is suspected of having gunned down five people, three of which were killed. Los Angeles Police already shot two innocent people while trying to detain the suspect.

Fear has struck the Los Angeles Police Department as authorities frantically search for the man who murdered their colleagues and promises to target anyone in uniform.

Former LAPD officer and US Navy reservist Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, began his shooting spree with the killing of a young couple. Monica Quan, 28, and her 27-year-old fiancé, Keith Lawrence, were found dead in their car on Sunday night – an act of violence that Dorner called “a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD.”

The young woman was the daughter of Randal Quan, a former LAPD captain and current lawyer who represented Dorner in front of the Board of Rights, which ruled against him when he was fired from his job in early 2009. Even though Quan represented Dorner before the board, he was unsuccessful in securing his client’s employment.

The other three shooting victims were all LAPD police officers, one of which suffered fatal gunshot wounds Wednesday evening. In a 20-page manifesto published online, Dorner promised to continue killing, and specifically targeted police officers he believes were involved in his dismissal from the LAPD, where he worked from 2005 to 2008.

In response, the LAPD has launched a statewide manhunt and is standing armed and ready to use lethal force, should they encounter the suspect. Police who were guarding one of Dorner’s targeted officers opened fire and wounded two innocent people in a pickup truck in Torrance that closely resembled the one that the suspect was thought to be driving – a blue or grey Nissan Titan. The pickup had been driving without its lights on at 5:15 a.m. Thursday, prompting the officers to blindly shoot at it.

“Tragically we believe this was a case of mistaken identity by the officers,” said LAPD Police Chief Charlie Beck.

Authorities have not discussed the extent of the gunshot injuries afflicted upon the bystanders, but the two victims were hospitalized.

Nearby, there was another police shooting when LAPD officers saw a separate pickup truck that also resembled the suspect’s. The bullets failed to hit the innocent driver of the truck, but points towards the fear instilled among the LAPD as they desperately search for Dorner, prepared to use any means to stop him.

Dorner's truck was recovered, ablaze and without him in it, later Thursday night in the San Bernardino mountains a few hours' drive from Los Angeles. Meanwhile, the killer is still on the loose, determined to make himself known after losing his job four years ago.

“I lost everything,” Dorner wrote, “because the LAPD took my name and knew I was innocent.”

In a bloodthirsty act of vengeance, the former cop vowed also to murder some of the family members of the officers he listed.

“I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours,” Dorner wrote, while explaining that the shooting spree is an act to “reclaim my name”, which be believes he lost when he was fired. Dorner cited severe depression as a consequence of his termination, since his life’s ambition was to be a police officer.

Dorner was fired from the LAPD four years ago for making a false statement about his training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans. The former cop alleged to the news media that she kicked a schizophrenic with severe dementia. But after an internal investigation Sgt. Evans was cleared and  Dorner terminated from the police force.

“Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over,” he wrote in his manifesto. “Suppressing the truth will lead to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat and sleep.”

Odd information about Dorner is making its way through the media as the search continues.

"Learned today suspect Christopher Dorner sent me a parcel at CNN. Inside was a note, DVD, and a coin shot thru with bullet holes," CNN host Anderson Cooper tweeted Thursday evening. The coin is reportedly an LAPD souvenir medal.

Multiple law enforcement agencies are now involved in the manhunt. Targets named in Dorner’s manifesto will receive protection until authorities apprehend the man on the run.

The California Highway Patrol issued a blue alert for nine counties in Southern California, which requires information about the suspect to be broadcast to the public to receive help in the suspect’s apprehension.

“The violence of action will be high,” Dorner promised. “I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty.”

Police continue to search for Dorner are standing ready to use their weapons, since authorities say Thorner is “armed and extremely dangerous.”

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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 08:51:58 PM »
The "barbarian" Goths who sacked Rome in 410 AD, led by Alaric, had all learned to use Roman arms and tactics while serving as soldiers in the Roman legions. It is said they revolted because they weren't fairly treated and not promoted fairly within the Roman ranks.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 09:17:49 PM »
Makes one wonder if this chap is a bad good guy, or a good bad guy.  ;)

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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 10:10:06 PM »
Makes one wonder if this chap is a bad good guy, or a good bad guy.  ;)

It's an interesting question. The people in the LAPD as bureaucratic actors didn't feel any sense of personal responsibility when they acted and judged Dorner--they were acting within a bureaucratic structure and never expected, because of their belief in the structure, that their personal safety would ever be an issue.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 10:14:25 PM »
Police who were guarding one of Dorner’s targeted officers opened fire and wounded two innocent people in a pickup truck in Torrance that closely resembled.....

Wooohh-hoohh. LA cops claim open season on niggers !!!
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 10:47:34 PM »
Wooohh-hoohh. LA cops claim open season on niggers !!!

I don't think this is about race, although I can see it turning into a race thing. This is about trained actors within the empire revolting.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 11:19:30 PM »
This is about trained actors within the empire revolting.

... and trigger-happy cops being scared shitless.
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2013, 06:14:32 AM »
If the police reaction to just one person revolting against them, granted a former cop like what Laconas is on about,  imagine what their reaction would be to groups of armed and trained citizens determined to take back the government.

Or not even that. What if the Mexican drug gangs organized paramilitary squads in America to take out cops and government officials. This might be already happening covertly but what if it was all out in the open?

This whole incident just might serve to show the stupid goy that the jews police and government hold over us is merely smoke and mirrors, a confidence game and facade.

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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2013, 06:41:18 AM »
You guys put too much faith in the concept of true news. Let me suggest this simple exercise for evaluating stories involving murders.

First, confirm who clearly exists, suspects, victims and witnesses, and determine who are jews and who may be patsies or fictional.
Second, confirm any dead bodies.
Third, determine who may have had a monetary or personal motive to kill the confirmed dead, particularly jews.
Fourth, look for information in the report that makes no sense the way it is reported (is illogical or weird filler), and look for coded messages therein.  (Hmmm, the sniper sniping also made reference to pickup truck... I.e., watch GM stock price.)
Fifth, jew sources are never credible by themselves.
 


 
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2013, 06:48:56 AM »
You guys put too much faith in the concept of true news. Let me suggest this simple exercise for evaluating stories involving murders.

I agree with your construct which is why those of us who are jew wise use forums like these in an attempt to sort out, mull and analyze the jewsnews.

Also I agree with your fourth point in that the jews love to use numbers, symbols and some words to send messages.

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2013, 07:14:23 AM »
If the police reaction to just one person revolting against them, granted a former cop like what Laconas is on about,  imagine what their reaction would be to groups of armed and trained citizens determined to take back the government.

Or not even that. What if the Mexican drug gangs organized paramilitary squads in America to take out cops and government officials. This might be already happening covertly but what if it was all out in the open?

This whole incident just might serve to show the stupid goy that the jews police and government hold over us is merely smoke and mirrors, a confidence game and facade.

The bureaucrats have instruments and structures in place to protect themselves and the overall structure from so called groups because they work only in groups and can barely imagine a lone wolf causing so much chaos.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2013, 07:28:32 AM »
You guys put too much faith in the concept of true news. Let me suggest this simple exercise for evaluating stories involving murders.

First, confirm who clearly exists, suspects, victims and witnesses, and determine who are jews and who may be patsies or fictional.
Second, confirm any dead bodies.
Third, determine who may have had a monetary or personal motive to kill the confirmed dead, particularly jews.
Fourth, look for information in the report that makes no sense the way it is reported (is illogical or weird filler), and look for coded messages therein.  (Hmmm, the sniper sniping also made reference to pickup truck... I.e., watch GM stock price.)
Fifth, jew sources are never credible by themselves.

Even if this scenario was total fiction it is still significant because X-mercenaries are usually treated unfairly when they are no longer needed and many scenarios like this will be playing out in the next few years as the empire has to reach out and hire more mercenaries. Containment is always a problem. During the Iraq and Afghanistan wars they had to round-up former mercs and ship them off to Gitmo and other secret prisons around the world. And as I pointed out about above at post http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php/topic,24730.msg238169.html#msg238169 this is not anything new. The Goths who sacked Rome were former mercenaries for the empire.

Fiction or not, the Jewish empire is expanding and training more and more mercs everyday and a policy is being implemented to to protect the ruling class and their bureaucratic structures from possible back-lash.
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2013, 09:45:29 AM »
Even if this scenario was total fiction it is still significant because X-mercenaries are usually treated unfairly when they are no longer needed and many scenarios like this will be playing out in the next few years as the empire has to reach out and hire more mercenaries. Containment is always a problem. During the Iraq and Afghanistan wars they had to round-up former mercs and ship them off to Gitmo and other secret prisons around the world. And as I pointed out about above at post http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php/topic,24730.msg238169.html#msg238169 this is not anything new. The Goths who sacked Rome were former mercenaries for the empire.

Fiction or not, the Jewish empire is expanding and training more and more mercs everyday and a policy is being implemented to to protect the ruling class and their bureaucratic structures from possible back-lash.

Blacks are no threat to the establishment.  I say he is fictional.  Where is his facebook, and family and girlfriends?  Who benefits from the story? 
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2013, 10:19:14 AM »
Blacks are no threat to the establishment.  I say he is fictional.  Where is his facebook, and family and girlfriends?  Who benefits from the story?

Mrs. Feinstein who wants every shell accounted for and put on a database, for starters.
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2013, 01:14:36 PM »
Fiction or not, the Jewish empire is expanding and training more and more mercs everyday

... and no matter what country you're in the mercs will be imported, with no attachment to the land or people - no reservations about destroying either.
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2013, 01:16:34 PM »
Ok, so, whether the story is real or a fiction, what is the message here, to oligarchs and commoners.

Possibly that it doesn't take much to upset the apple cart and send cops into a paranoid shooting frenzy, instilling fear into commoners, dissenters and the rulers. Possibly that the police departments need to weed out non-team players early on, for everyone's safety.

If people are brainwashed, how would they know it?

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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2013, 02:05:43 PM »
Ok, so, whether the story is real or a fiction, what is the message here, to oligarchs and commoners.

Possibly that it doesn't take much to upset the apple cart and send cops into a paranoid shooting frenzy, instilling fear into commoners, dissenters and the rulers. Possibly that the police departments need to weed out non-team players early on, for everyone's safety.

This may be nothing but another media op.
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2013, 08:10:28 PM »
Cop-killer on the run: Largest manhunt in LAPD history spreads to three US states and Mexico

Published: 08 February, 2013, 21:40
source: http://rt.com/usa/news/manhunt-police-dorner-lapd-765/


Shooting suspect Christopher Jordan Dorner is seen in this handout
picture released to Reuters February 7, 2013. (Reuters)


The manhunt for suspected cop-killer Christopher Dorner has led police to a California ski resort, where the suspect’s demolished pickup truck was found on the mountain, with tracks in the snow leading away from it.

After police stumbled upon the burning truck near Big Bear Lake, they followed the suspected shooter’s tracks, but failed to catch up to him. Dorner continues to be on the run as authorities continue the largest manhunt in the history of the Los Angeles Police Department.

The manhunt has led police to three states and the north of Mexico. Police are now conducting door-to-door searches of the 400 homes near the ski resort at Big Bear Lake, Calif. Authorities do not know if Dorner remains in the area, but will continue to search the area as long as the weather cooperates, San Bernardino County Sheriff’s spokeswoman Cindy Bachman told ABC.


Bystanders are escorted from a crime scene while police detectives investigate a shooting incident involving a
blue Toyota Tacoma pickup truck in Torrance, California, February 7, 2013 (Reuters / Patrick T. Fallon)


While police will be knocking on the doors of all area residents, Bachman urged residents not to answer the door unless they know the person or see a law enforcement officer in uniform. Area schools closed down on Friday as the manhunt progressed.

But even though authorities continue to search the mountains, they admit that Dorner might no longer be in the area and that the demolished vehicle could have been a diversion or even a trap.

“He could be anywhere at this point,” said San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon.


Naval security personnel lock down Naval Base Point Loma as police search for suspect, former LAPD officer
Christopher Jordan Dorner, February 7, 2013 in San Diego, California (AFP Photo / Denis Poroy)


About 150 miles south, as many as 16 San Diego County sheriff’s deputies spent the night surrounding a rural home after receiving fake reports that Dorner was there. Investigators plan to seek criminal charges against the suspect responsible for the hoax.

But in their desperation to find the man who threatened to kill more people, police are searching for him throughout California, Nevada, Arizona and Mexico. All of Dorner’s cell phone connections have been cut off, making it even more difficult for police to track him.

“We don’t know what he’s going to do,” Bachman said. “We know what he’s capable of doing. And we need to find him.”


Traffic goes past a sign at San Diego State University along Interstate 8 with information about a murder
suspect's vehicle, former LAPD officer Christopher Jordan Dorner, February 7, 2013 in San Diego, California
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The suspected cop-killers actions increasingly point towards a deliberated scheme that was planned out in advance. On Thursday, CNN news anchor Anderson Cooper announced that the Dorner had sent his office a package, which arrived on Feb. 1 and must have been mailed prior to that – days before Dorner fatally shot his first two victims on Feb. 3.

The parcel contained a DVD, a letter, and a bullet-riddled coin. A sticky-note on the DVD read, “I never lied! Here is my vindication.” The coin was an LAPD token that bears the name of William Bratton, former LAPD Chief of Police. The coins are symbolic gifts sometimes given to officers to wish them good luck and are a symbol of respect. Written on duct-tape attached to the coin was the inscription, “Thanks, but no thanks Will Bratton.”

Cooper’s staff did not discover the contents of the package until Thursday, after which Cooper went on the air with Bratton to discuss its significance.

“What you’ve shown me is, to be quite frank with you, very disturbing,” said Bratton, who does not remember meeting Dorner several years ago.

“I was the Chief of Police that signed off on his discharge from the LAPD, so in terms of his grievances, I could understand his grievance directed toward me in my capacity as Chief of Police,” he said. “A lot of police officers get discharged and none of them resort to the actions that this young man has taken.”

Dorner, a 33-year-old former LAPD officer and Navy reservist, is suspected of killing two civilians and one police officer and injuring two other officers. The suspected killer has published an online manifesto on his Facebook page in which he lays out his grievances against the LAPD, includes a list of people he plans to kill, and pledges to take down their families too. In an alleged act of vengeance, Dorner’s shooting spree is in response to being “unjustly” terminated from the LAPD in early 2009. Dorner was dismissed for “making false statements” about another officer using excessive force against a schizophrenic subject. Dorner was fired, while his colleague was cleared from the accusation.

“The LAPD’s actions have cost me my law enforcement career. They cost me my naval career. … I’ve lost my relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I’ve lost everything because the LAPD took my name and [knew] I was INNOCENT!!!” Dorner wrote in his manifesto.

“This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now led to deadly consequences.”

The police department has dispatched protection teams to guard uniformed officers and their families. Dozens of officers have built a line of defense outside of the LAPD headquarters and officers who normally patrol on motorcycles have been ordered to use patrol cars. Officers are also being dispatched in teams of at least two as the LAPD’s largest manhunt in history continues.

“I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty,” Dorner threatened. “You will now live the life of the prey.”
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2013, 10:33:17 PM »
“I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty,” Dorner threatened. “You will now live the life of the prey.”

A couple of years ago I saw a true-crime tv show featuring (IIRC) a black ex-cop/security expert explaining the ins & outs of how to live underground & on the run from charges.  IE painstaking efforts, almost more trouble than doing time.  An ex-cop would know such stuff; Dorner burns his truck which seems fitting.  OTOH reminds me of black "DC Sniper" who mysteriously evaded intense cop man-hunts while repeating shootings in the same general area.

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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2013, 02:03:15 AM »
It's an interesting question. The people in the LAPD as bureaucratic actors didn't feel any sense of personal responsibility when they acted and judged Dorner--they were acting within a bureaucratic structure and never expected, because of their belief in the structure, that their personal safety would ever be an issue.

Yep.

This whole incident just might serve to show the stupid goy that the jews police and government hold over us is merely smoke and mirrors, a confidence game and facade.

Yep.

Real or not, it sure will/is.

The bureaucrats have instruments and structures in place to protect themselves and the overall structure from so called groups because they work only in groups and can barely imagine a lone wolf causing so much chaos.

Yep.

Even if this scenario was total fiction it is still significant because X-mercenaries are usually treated unfairly when they are no longer needed and many scenarios like this will be playing out in the next few years as the empire has to reach out and hire more mercenaries. Containment is always a problem. During the Iraq and Afghanistan wars they had to round-up former mercs and ship them off to Gitmo and other secret prisons around the world. And as I pointed out about above at post http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php/topic,24730.msg238169.html#msg238169 this is not anything new. The Goths who sacked Rome were former mercenaries for the empire.

Yep.



Anybody else download and read his manifesto yet? It's fantastic. I have a new hero.  :)

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