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« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2013, 09:14:59 PM »
I think being social is not necessarily the anti-thesis of independence and self-pride.

I should have specified, "jewish tribal members", but as I did not, I can agree with your response.

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It will be a long road back if .....  A bucket of cold water would be far more effective.

I've tried a bucket of cold water on gentiles only to watch their eyes glaze over and have them start in with the usual epithets. Paradigms are hard to penetrate and often need to be eased into slowly. It'll be a long road back no matter what.
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« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2013, 10:14:22 PM »
True that National Socialism improved Germany's economy & that alone would put it in Allies' cross hairs.  However I wonder how many of the German voters had read Mein Kampf & the plan to dominate Eastern Europe.

And you have read 'Dreams of my Father'?  ;D

But you there you go again... asserting something with nothing more than an allusion to Mein Kampf. Do you have something to back up the notion that Germany was planning an invasion eastward?
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« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2013, 09:50:13 PM »
And you have read 'Dreams of my Father'?  ;D

But you there you go again... asserting something with nothing more than an allusion to Mein Kampf. Do you have something to back up the notion that Germany was planning an invasion eastward?

Haven't read "Dreams" just yet but I have read both of Tarpley's books on Obama.  I know you're no Tarpley fan but he had Obama pegged pretty good; the books hold up even though they were written years ago. 

I did read Mein Kampf in high school & review portions occasionally.  Amazing how folks post about 30's Hitler speeches where he poses as wishing to avoid war when his own writings show differently:

http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv2ch14.html

Some excerpts:

Only an adequately large space on this earth assures a nation of freedom of existence.
Moreover, the necessary size of the territory to be settled cannot be judged exclusively on the basis of present requirements, not even in fact on the basis of the yield of the soil compared to the population.

The National Socialist movement must strive to eliminate the disproportion between our population and our area

The demand for restoration of the frontiers of 1914 is a political absurdity

The boundaries of the year 1914 mean nothing at all for the German future. Neither did they provide a defense of the past, nor would they contain any strength for the future.

The fact that a nation has succeeded in acquiring an undue amount of soil constitutes no higher obligation that it should be recognized eternally. At most it proves the strength of the conquerors and the weakness of the nations. And in this case, right lies in this strength alone.

We stop the endless German movement to the south and west, and turn our gaze toward the land in the east. At long last we break of the colonial and commercial policy of the pre-War period and shift to the soil policy of the future.
If we speak of soil in Europe today, we can primarily have in mind only Russia and her vassal border states.


Hitler fantasizing about alliance with England:

In the previous chapter on the alliance problem I have already designated England and Italy as the only two states in Europe with which a closer relationship would be desirable and promising for us...The most important consideration, first of all, is the fact that in itself an approach so England and Italy in no way conjures up a war danger.

Hitler's error on the fate of India vs England:

And if anyone imagines that England would let India go without staking her last drop of blood, it is only a sorry sign of absolute failure to learn from the World War, and of total misapprehension and ignorance on the score of AngloSaxon determination. It is, furthermore, a proof of the German's total ignorance regarding the whole method of British penetration and administration of this empire. England will lose India either if her own administrative machinery falls a prey to racial decomposition (which at the moment is completely out of the question in India) or if she is bested by the sword of a powerful enemy.

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« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2013, 11:29:46 PM »
I have not read this article (time for bed) but do take a look and tell me what you think, ALL of you: here

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« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2013, 07:52:36 AM »

Only an adequately large space on this earth assures a nation of freedom of existence.


His thinking on land when so much of it had been stripped from Germany seems only reasonable. However you claimed he had invasion plans for the east in 1925 in Mein Kampf. That was what I wanted to see, not talk on the well being of the nation written for political consumption.

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« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2013, 09:34:02 AM »
Long before the Hitler government began restricting the rights of the German Jews, the leaders of the worldwide Jewish community formally declared war on the "New Germany" at a time when the U.S. government and even the Jewish leaders in Germany were urging caution in dealing with the new Hitler regime.

It is important to remember that people who are inspired by you will be inspired to authentically represent your cause as his or her own cause. 

The only way you can cultivate that kind of response in another person is to first find out how you can best serve them. To do that, you have to really know where the other person is coming from, which is why empathy is the greatest asset in a good leader.



   


    Introductory Note
    by Mark Weber

    Theodore N. Kaufman, the author of Germany Must Perish, was a Manhattan-born Jewish businessman who was also chairman of a group that called itself the "American Federation for Peace." The first edition of this slim volume was published in 1940 or early 1941. A second, 96-page edition, which sold for 25 cents, was published in 1941 by Argyle Press of Newark, New Jersey. Both editions were issued when the United States was still officially neutral, that is, before the Pearl Harbor attack of December 7, 1941, that brought the U.S. openly into World War II.

    Kaufman's fervent proposal for the systematic sterilization of the entire German population was given respectful attention in the American press, including reviews in a number of newspapers. A review in the weekly Time magazine, March 24, 1941, called Kaufman's plan a "sensational idea."

    Germany's propaganda chief, Joseph Goebbels, seized with delight on the book. "This Jew [Kaufman] has done a disservice to the enemy," Goebbels privately commented. "If he had composed the book at my behest he couldn't have done a better job."

    At his direction the German press played up Kaufman's call for genocide. A front page article about the book in the Berlin daily Der Angriff, July 23, 1941, appeared under headlines that called it a "Diabolical Plan for the Extermination of the German People" and a work of "Old Testament Hatred." Extracts also appeared, for example, in the nationally-circulated weekly paper Das Reich, August 3, 1941.

    A plan similar to Kaufman's was issued during the war years by a prominent American anthropologist. In an article headlined "Breed War Strain Out of Germans" in the New York daily newspaper P.M., January 4, 1943, Ernest Hooton laid out an "outbreeding" plan that would "destroy German nationalism and aggressive ideology while retaining and perpetuating desirable German biological and sociological capacities." (See also: Benjamin Colby, ‘Twas a Famous Victory, 1974, p. 131.)

    The Harvard University professor's proposal called for genetically transforming the German nation by encouraging mating of German women with non-German men, who would be brought into the country in large numbers, and of German men, forcibly held outside of Germany, with non-German women. Ten to twelve million German men would be assigned to forced labor under Allied supervision in countries outside of Germany to rebuild their economies. "The objects of this measure," wrote Dr. Hooton, "include reduction of the birthrate of 'pure' Germans, neutralization of German aggressiveness by outbreeding and denationalization of indoctrinated individuals."

more here: http://www.ihr.org/books/kaufman/perish.html

Demonizing works like a charm!
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« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2013, 10:18:58 AM »
France and Britain more or less adopted these destructive American policies with respect to Germany. Soon after JCS 1067 was issued, measures for industrial deconstruction were formulated, first by the Americans, and after the Potsdam conference by all the Allies. Three forms of deconstruction were planned: 1st, reparations "in kind," meaning the disassembly of German factories and machines, 2nd, the complete demolition of German production capacity and 3rd, an official policy of "statutory neglect" of German factories and machines. Here again, these plans for the destruction of the means of existence of the German people are directly traceable to the Morgenthau Plan.
 
For a fully footnoted and cross-linked version, please go to www.nordbruch.org
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« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2013, 07:02:07 PM »
His thinking on land when so much of it had been stripped from Germany seems only reasonable.

Perhaps though Hitler emphasizes that he doesn't wish for mere return of 1914 borders.  Sure by dominating the East, Germany would perhaps remove the threat from that direction.  Seems odd that his Eastern expansion would solve vulnerability problems since UK/France military was a huge problem in WWI.

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However you claimed he had invasion plans for the east in 1925 in Mein Kampf. That was what I wanted to see, not talk on the well being of the nation written for political consumption.

No, Hitler didn't, in Mein Kampf, detail exact war plans as to which divisions would go where...that point seems like hair-splitting to me.

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« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2013, 07:05:23 PM »
No, Hitler didn't, in Mein Kampf, detail exact war plans as to which divisions would go where...that point seems like hair-splitting to me.

So details, we'll just brush them off. But then since 1925 Hitler had ample time to draw up plans, down to division level I would think. Maybe you should find those so we can be sure of your allegation?
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« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2013, 09:05:24 PM »
So details, we'll just brush them off. But then since 1925 Hitler had ample time to draw up plans, down to division level I would think. Maybe you should find those so we can be sure of your allegation?

Good golly, I'm not a military historian.  I think we all agree that National Socialist Germany closely followed Hitler's ideas from Mein Kampf.  At any rate little in their history shows that Hitler later departed from previous ideas in major form esp in re Russia/East.  Given the Wermacht's famed competence I think it's absurd to say they had no plans, at least contingency plans, whether or not they were intended to be used.

OTOH in your favor I note that a quick web search produces almost nothing as to early/mid-30's (or earlier) plans.  I attribute this to the large # of derivative websites that focus on Operation Barbarossa plans...conventional history favors featuring accidents & coincidences & ignores long-term strategies/goals.  IE conventional history, for instance, portrays Chamberlain as a Hitler dupe & Churchill as a "voice in the wilderness" who brought England & the West to it's senses after it was too late to avoid war.  Bosh, London had Hitler pegged, Chamberlain "appeasement" was just a trick to let NatSoc Germany develop enough to put a hurt on USSR.

In that light I consider it likely that "West" history has a strong disincentive to reveal earlier invasion plans (which would undoubtedly have been highly classified & not widely distributed).  Very few Americans are aware of War Plans Red, Orange & Orange/Red that planned for war vs England, Japan or both.

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« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2013, 03:53:18 PM »
From the article I posted above:

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The Harvard University professor's proposal called for genetically transforming the German nation by encouraging mating of German women with non-German men, who would be brought into the country in large numbers, and of German men, forcibly held outside of Germany, with non-German women. Ten to twelve million German men would be assigned to forced labor under Allied supervision in countries outside of Germany to rebuild their economies. "The objects of this measure," wrote Dr. Hooton, "include reduction of the birthrate of 'pure' Germans, neutralization of German aggressiveness by out-breeding and denationalization of indoctrinated individuals."

Note where else they have been doing this?
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« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2014, 03:55:13 AM »
Haven't read "Dreams" just yet but I have read both of Tarpley's books on Obama.  I know you're no Tarpley fan but he had Obama pegged pretty good; the books hold up even though they were written years ago. 

I did read Mein Kampf in high school & review portions occasionally.  Amazing how folks post about 30's Hitler speeches where he poses as wishing to avoid war when his own writings show differently:

You I hope understand, even though you may have a book in your hand, the publishers could have altered portions. I found this the easy way with four copies of books on the USA Constitution. Three out of four books had edited the Bill of Rights, to make it appear they know exactly what the real words actually mean to organized religion. Only one out of those four 'Major Book Store' purchased books on the US Constitution, had it letter for letter correct. I wish had I kept those three books just for the example, but one was 50-60 pages thin and huge. It was an eye sore on the book shelf. Anyway, double check (easily done with online sources) various parts with other sources to get an idea if they are sticking to the authors intent, or not.
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« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2014, 03:59:39 AM »
From the article I posted above:
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  encouraging mating of German women with non-German men, who would be brought into
  the country in large numbers
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Note where else they have been doing this?

The bringing into the nation outsiders to mate? NATO, since 1945. When the first proposed bill to have USA Military bases closed, the thought was on strictly Foreign US Military bases the US runs. The Newt and his band of thieves, altered the concept of the Bill to only close Domestic bases for the "real estate" holdings and wheeling and dealings over splitting up that booty. Most of these bases are in prime locations near major cities, if not taking up a great percentage of the lands of the cities total land mass as a whole. Like San Diego California was and still is. The big closure was the famous Rosecrans Naval Recruit depot. Prime San Diego Bay Front Property right there. The vultures chopped that up real good.
Truth justice and the American way is a list of three different things that are not necessarily related. 2001 9 11 is an inside job and an open case file treated by those that refuse to do their duty as a closed case file.