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« Reply #100 on: October 24, 2012, 06:11:46 PM »
In order to get contracts it was said that Coca-Cola could play an important role in the operation of the military, by providing an energizing drink during pauses in action.

Coked coke?
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« Reply #101 on: October 24, 2012, 06:52:45 PM »
Read the story just now, pretty good.  Written in 1931 & kidnapping was in '32 so I'm not sure if Smurch character was actually a stand-in for Lindbergh.  Perhaps more about manipulations of MSM/PTB.

The TV movie made in 1980 creates a whole new impression for a generation. It's similar structurally to all those remakes of movies and TV shows.
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« Reply #102 on: October 24, 2012, 07:20:04 PM »
The TV movie made in 1980 creates a whole new impression for a generation. It's similar structurally to all those remakes of movies and TV shows.

Not on YouTube or PirateBay...but on Amazon though.  $3 rental pretty cheap but I hardly ever sit & watch tv or movies straight-thru anymore...even when free.

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« Reply #103 on: October 24, 2012, 07:52:45 PM »
Not on YouTube or PirateBay...but on Amazon though.  $3 rental pretty cheap but I hardly ever sit & watch tv or movies straight-thru anymore...even when free.

It's not easy. Even for old films that are a must to see.
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« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2012, 08:10:28 AM »
American-Nazi Collaboration After the War

As the war was being rapped up in Europe America was quick to secure Nazis scientists, spies, and officers who they knew were dedicated to fighting Communism. Even Nazis who were known to have been war criminals were aided by Americans so that they could avoid war crimes trials in order to cooperate with American interests. In 1945 the Joint Chiefs of Staff advised General Eisenhower to begin arresting and holding Nazi war criminals, with the qualification that, "in your discretion you may make such exceptions as you deem advisable for intelligence and other military reasons."

This is one illustration of the fact that, not only were there members of the military in the field that were immediately interested in turning the war effort against the Soviet Union, but the view of the Communists as the enemy, against which the most advanced "Communist hunters" in the world, the Nazis, were reasonable to employ was held in Washington DC as well. World War II was largely a war against Communism. Both the fascists in Europe and the Japanese were fighting against Communist forces and arguably the fight against Communism was one of the primary objectives of the European fascists. The majority of Americans were on the fascist's side of that issue when it really came down to it, including many people in the FDR administration. The major war against Communism started in 1941 when Germany invaded the Soviet Union and it didn't end until 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed. Germany and Japan fought the first leg of that war, the baton was then passed to the United States.

In 2000 the CIA was forced to begin releasing the names of Nazi and Japanese war criminal that it had employed or worked with under the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act, signed into law by President Clinton. In accordance with the law the names of over 400 war criminals were identified as having worked with or for the Central Intelligence Agency.

More on this can be found here:

CIA Intends to Release Records on Cold War Spymaster

Opening of CIA Records under Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act (File not found)

"Name Files" released in response to the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act and the Japanese Imperial Government Disclosure Act

CIA admits employing Nazis (File not found)

In testimony before the Subcommittee on Government Management Information and Technology of the House Committee on Government Reform and Oversight in 1999

Elizabeth Holtzman stated:

    Over the years, there have been many indications that our own government was working with Nazi war criminals. For example, a General Accounting Office report issued in the 1970's pointed out that some twenty Nazi war criminals had been employed by US government agencies which knew the allegations against them. But the report did not disclose the names of those Nazis, the work they did, why they were hired--and it was not complete.

It was testimony like this that eventually led to the signing of the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act.

After FDR died, and the American military machine had been established, many of FDR's opponents flooded the political scene.

Prescott Bush, who had been implicated in financial dealings with the Nazis became a Senator, Allen Dulles became head of the new CIA, and conservatives who had developed ties with the Republicans through the American Liberty League began their strong effort to promote a Republican based anti-communist and anti-liberal agenda, which resulted in a increase in Republican political power.

With the end of World War II American leadership immediately took a position hostile to Russia and other Communist Party countries. Aid was given to Chaing Kai Shek, leader of the Kuomintang, and American soldiers are deployed to China in 1946 to fight against the Red Army, which had been a major factor in helping American forces in the battle for the Pacific. The top Kuomintang General, Tai Li, acknowledged during the war that Heinrich Himmler was his role model.

When NASA was founded many of the initial and most important scientists were Germans, former Nazi scientists.  Werner von Braun was of course the most famous of the ex-Nazi scientists and one of the most important men in the American space program. Von Braun designed the German V-2 rockets that were used against Britain, which were built by thousands of enslaved Jews in a vast underground facility where people typically only survived for a few weeks. Von Braun was in fact a member of the SS. The NASA program was started as an anti-communist program as part of the Cold War, and von Braun was a vocal promoter of America anti-communist action.

From the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure act Report:

    Between 1945 and 1955, 765 scientists, engineers, and technicians were brought to the United States under [Operations] Overcast, Paperclip, and similar programs. It has been estimated that at least half, and perhaps as many as 80 percent, of the imported specialists were former Nazi Party members. By the end of the mid-1980s three of them had left the country for various reasons relating to their wartime activities. One of them was Arthur Rudolph who had been a V-2 project engineer and worked first for the Army and then NASA developing the Saturn V rocket. Rudolph left the United States in 1984 and surrendered his U.S. citizenship following the Office of Special Investigations' discovery of his role in the persecution of slave laborers at an underground V-2 missile factory at the Nordhausen Concentration Camp, where thousands of prisoners died.

    Over the years, there have been many indications that our own government was working with Nazi war criminals. For example, a General Accounting Office report issued in the 1970's pointed out that some twenty Nazi war criminals had been employed by US government agencies which knew the allegations against them. But the report did not disclose the names of those Nazis, the work they did, why they were hired--and it was not complete.

It was testimony like this that eventually led to the signing of the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act.

After FDR died, and the American military machine had been established, many of FDR's opponents flooded the political scene.

Prescott Bush, who had been implicated in financial dealings with the Nazis became a Senator, Allen Dulles became head of the new CIA, and conservatives who had developed ties with the Republicans through the American Liberty League began their strong effort to promote a Republican based anti-communist and anti-liberal agenda, which resulted in a increase in Republican political power.

With the end of World War II American leadership immediately took a position hostile to Russia and other Communist Party countries. Aid was given to Chaing Kai Shek, leader of the Kuomintang, and American soldiers are deployed to China in 1946 to fight against the Red Army, which had been a major factor in helping American forces in the battle for the Pacific. The top Kuomintang General, Tai Li, acknowledged during the war that Heinrich Himmler was his role model.

When NASA was founded many of the initial and most important scientists were Germans, former Nazi scientists.  Werner von Braun was of course the most famous of the ex-Nazi scientists and one of the most important men in the American space program. Von Braun designed the German V-2 rockets that were used against Britain, which were built by thousands of enslaved Jews in a vast underground facility where people typically only survived for a few weeks. Von Braun was in fact a member of the SS. The NASA program was started as an anti-communist program as part of the Cold War, and von Braun was a vocal promoter of America anti-communist action.

From the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure act Report:

    Between 1945 and 1955, 765 scientists, engineers, and technicians were brought to the United States under [Operations] Overcast, Paperclip, and similar programs. It has been estimated that at least half, and perhaps as many as 80 percent, of the imported specialists were former Nazi Party members. By the end of the mid-1980s three of them had left the country for various reasons relating to their wartime activities. One of them was Arthur Rudolph who had been a V-2 project engineer and worked first for the Army and then NASA developing the Saturn V rocket. Rudolph left the United States in 1984 and surrendered his U.S. citizenship following the Office of Special Investigations' discovery of his role in the persecution of slave laborers at an underground V-2 missile factory at the Nordhausen Concentration Camp, where thousands of prisoners died.

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