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The UFO and Ascension people follow Ben. Ben I don't think follows them.  I like Ben cause he as far as I know is the only one that talks about the huge gold heist that occurred during the Great Big Kerosene Fueled Skyscraper Holocaust of 911.   His 10000 ninjas going after the Illuminati was epic.  Alas it was cancelled.

Here is the latest Ben. Or at least what’s on his front page. The abbreviated Ben (I had cancelled my account, and when I tried to re-subscribe to his newsletter, his Paypal account would not accept my registration; someone else I know had the same challenge). I’m supposed to receive a copy of the full text in the next day or so, which I may post on Wednesday.

In the meantime, enjoy this taste.

Highlights

A visit to Canada and long conversations with bankers, newspaper editors and others still living inside the “mainstream” story about world events has exposed a deliberate state of factual denial about what is really happening in the Western terrorist states.

What… highly intelligent and… indoctrinated Westerners all share in common is a financial interest…, a family to support and a fear that openly discussing the fascist coup d’etat that took place in the West would lead to unemployment, poverty and ostracism.

However… their world view is beginning to fall apart despite their deep personal need to cling to the “official” Western story. The coming autumn chaos will force people like this to finally confront reality.
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Why the West is now under Nazi rule and why the elite are in denial
Benjamin Fulford, July 31, 2012

A visit to Canada and long conversations with bankers, newspaper editors and others still living inside the “mainstream” story about world events has exposed a deliberate state of factual denial about what is really happening in the Western terrorist states. The editor of a major North American newspaper, for example, made it clear to this writer that he needed to believe the official story about 911 and everything else the Western terrorist governments were saying because the alternative would be to radically restructure a world view he created over a lifetime. The bankers and other “elite” also fervently pushed the truth about things like “global warming based on CO2″ but immediately stopped the discussion and changed the subject when evidence was presented showing it was a fraud. The head of a major medical research laboratory, for his part, made it clear that openly researching subjects like bio-weapons (HIV, SARS, “bird flu” etc.) being spread by the cabalists would mean and end to his research institute’s grants and unemployment for him and his colleagues.

What these highly intelligent and thoroughly indoctrinated Westerners all share in common is a financial interest (jobs, salaries and high social status), a family to support and a fear that openly discussing the fascist coup d’etat that took place in the West would lead to unemployment, poverty and ostracism. However, when certain key words and phrases are avoided (for example by discussing “oligarchs” instead of “cabalists”) it is clear their world view is beginning to fall apart despite their deep personal need to cling to the “official” Western story. They are like loyal lifetime card bearing communists speaking in wavering voices of their loyalty to communism just before the fall of the Soviet Union.

The coming autumn chaos will force people like this to finally confront reality

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Why the West is now under Nazi? Commie rule and why the elite are in denial...

Are they really in denial???



Remember Gramsci student O'bummer?

How about Alinsky student Chillary?


Rules for Radicals

By Saul Alinsky - 1971

Hillary Clinton's 1969 Political Science Thesis ("There is Only the Fight") refers to an earlier version of Alinsky’s training manual.

"In 1946,” she wrote, "Alinsky's first book, Reveille for Radicals, was published."
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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"Nazi" rule?

The elite are in denial, or just their subjects?

Come on, Ben.

Incidently, I'm getting more & more skeptical about everything supposing to fall apart September-October.  I'm not ruling it out, but I notice the sources pushing this theory are not to be trusted.  For example, I saw this today from Debka (Israel), pushed by Alex Jones...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/GE5c_9reXz4" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/GE5c_9reXz4</a>

...nothing about this at PressTV.ir

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Not taking side just providing data,  I never saw much difference between nazi and commie. One referenced nation and the other global.

Hint I looked at my birth certificate.  Above "my name" is Subject.

British subject
At common law, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the English and later British Crown was an English or British subject. This meant that to be a subject, one simply had to be born in any territory under the sovereignty of the Crown.

Big Banks Funded the Nazis and Launched a Coup Against the President of the United States

Posted on July 19, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/07/big-banks-funded-the-nazis-and-launched-a-coup-against-the-president-of-the-united-states.html

ref links at the post

Preface: Not all bankers are bad people. For example, many bankers at smaller banks and credit unions are good people who are trying to help their communities.

Banks Fund Terrorists

It is newsworthy that HSBC has been accused by the Senate of laundering money for terrorists. And see this.

Big banks have been caught in a wide variety of criminal activities recently.

But this is nothing new.

American Banks Funded the Nazis

Many big American banks funded the Nazis.

The BBC reported in 1998:

Barclays Bank has agreed to pay $3.6m to Jews whose assets were seized from French branches of the British-based bank during World War II.

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Chase Manhattan Bank, which has acknowledged seizing about 100 accounts held by Jews in its Paris branch during World War II ….”Recently unclassified reports from the US Treasury about the activities of Chase in Paris in the 1940s indicate that the local branch worked “in close collaboration with the German authorities” in freezing Jewish assets.

The New York Daily News noted the same year:

The relationship between Chase and the Nazis apparently was so cozy that Carlos Niedermann, the Chase branch chief in Paris, wrote his supervisor in Manhattan that the bank enjoyed “very special esteem” with top German officials and “a rapid expansion of deposits,” according to Newsweek.

Niedermann’s letter was written in May 1942 five months after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and the U.S. also went to war with Germany.

The BBC reported in 1999:

A French government commission, investigating the seizure of Jewish bank accounts during the Second World War, says five American banks Chase Manhattan, J.P Morgan, Guaranty Trust Co. of New York, Bank of the City of New York and American Express had taken part.

It says their Paris branches handed over to the Nazi occupiers about one-hundred such accounts.

One of Britain’s main newspapers – the Guardian – reported in 2004:

George Bush’s grandfather [and George H.W. Bush's father], the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings … continued until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act

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The documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade. The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen’s US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war.

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Bush was a founding member of the bank [UBC] … The bank was set up by Harriman and Bush’s father-in-law to provide a US bank for the Thyssens, Germany’s most powerful industrial family.

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By the late 1930s, Brown Brothers Harriman, which claimed to be the world’s largest private investment bank, and UBC had bought and shipped millions of dollars of gold, fuel, steel, coal and US treasury bonds to Germany, both feeding and financing Hitler’s build-up to war.

Between 1931 and 1933 UBC bought more than $8m worth of gold, of which $3m was shipped abroad. According to documents seen by the Guardian, after UBC was set up it transferred $2m to BBH accounts and between 1924 and 1940 the assets of UBC hovered around $3m, dropping to $1m only on a few occasions.

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UBC was caught red-handed operating a American shell company for the Thyssen family eight months after America had entered the war and that this was the bank that had partly financed Hitler’s rise to power.

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Communism vs Nazism

Communism and Nazism are two different political ideologies. They oppose each other and one can come across numerous differences between the two. Some people now a days do not see much difference between the two. But this not true and the two are distinct in all aspects. The communists have a different thinking of politics and economy than the Nazis.

Communism is a socio economic ideology that aims at a classless, egalitarian, and a stateless society. The ideology is based on a common ownership and it is the community that controls the resources or the means of production. Nazism or National Socialism is a totalitarian ideology that was practised by the Nazi Party or the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.

Who Financed every modern war?

One of the most powerful private banking families in the world "The Rothschild's", who were German Jews, in part had emigrated to America/U.K./Europe and helped also with Hitler's funding.

And who benefits???
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Communism is a socio economic ideology that aims at a classless, egalitarian, and a stateless society. The ideology is based on a common ownership and it is the community that controls the resources or the means of production. Nazism or National Socialism is a totalitarian ideology that was practised by the Nazi Party or the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.

totalitarian - political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed

society over the individual, community over the individual.  Like I said commie global view.  nazi nation view

nations btw is a term from the Chosen Old Testament - Why would der Furher use  a Chosen term

Röhm and the SA regarded themselves as the vanguard of the "National Socialist revolution." After Hitler's takeover, they expected radical changes in Germany, with power and rewards for them. However, Hitler's use of the SA as storm troopers was a political weapon he no longer needed.

Along with Joseph Goebbels, Gottfried Feder and Walther Darré, Röhm was a prominent member of the party's "socialist" faction. This group took the words "Sozialistische" and "Arbeiter" ("worker") in the party's name literally. They largely rejected capitalism (which they associated with Jews) and pushed for nationalisation of major industrial firms, expanded worker control, confiscation and redistribution of the estates of the old aristocracy and social equality in other words communists. Röhm spoke of a "second revolution" against "reactionaries" (the National Socialist label for old-line conservatives), as the National Socialists had previously dealt with the Communists and Socialists.

All this was threatening to the business community. So Hitler swiftly reassured businessmen that there would be no "second revolution." Many "storm troopers" were of working-class origins and had expected a socialist programme. In fact, it was often said at the time that members of the SA were like a beefsteak — "brown on the outside and red on the inside". They were now disappointed by the new regime's lack of socialist direction and also failure to provide the lavish patronage expected. Röhm even publicly criticized Hitler for his failure to carry through the National Socialist revolution

Nazism died with Rohm.  Der Fuhrer bowed to the Chosen and set up military dictatorship dividing Germany into districts and circuits like the USA.

In other post an air force officers is making a database of bombs.  Wonder how bombs hit Chosen industries?

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Communism vs Nazism

Communism and Nazism are two different political ideologies. They oppose each other and one can come across numerous differences between the two. Some people now a days do not see much difference between the two. But this not true and the two are distinct in all aspects. The communists have a different thinking of politics and economy than the Nazis.

Communism is a socio economic ideology that aims at a classless, egalitarian, and a stateless society. The ideology is based on a common ownership and it is the community that controls the resources or the means of production. Nazism or National Socialism is a totalitarian ideology that was practised by the Nazi Party or the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.

Who Financed every modern war?

One of the most powerful private banking families in the world "The Rothschild's", who were German Jews, in part had emigrated to America/U.K./Europe and helped also with Hitler's funding.

And who benefits???

The Nazi's were so heavily infiltrated by the Bolsheviks that it really doesn't matter
As a result of this they are not separate philosophies
Soviet's are very very good at infiltrating , in fact their specialty is infiltrating and stealing
Remember the Bolshevik revolution was completely planned and controlled by jews for the purpose of GLOBAL DOMINATION.
you have to remember who your're dealing with
We are Legion
We do not forgive
We do not forget
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The Nazi's were so heavily infiltrated by the Bolsheviks that it really doesn't matter
As a result of this they are not separate philosophies
Soviet's are very very good at infiltrating , in fact their specialty is infiltrating and stealing
Remember the Bolshevik revolution was completely planned and controlled by jews for the purpose of GLOBAL DOMINATION.
you have to remember who you're dealing with

Nothing seems to have changed, the 'dealers' are still the same. However, like other powers or systems, or the like in the past have always had the tendency to over-reach, which in the end spelled their demise.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Nothing seems to have changed, the 'dealers' are still the same. However, like other powers or systems, or the like in the past have always had the tendency to over-reach, which in the end spelled their demise.
not any time soon
that's just wishful thinking
jews are the decision makers
you have to ask yourself how they are always in this position.
firstly, because they have so much money and secondly they know how to manipulate this

There are two kinds of people in this world
Those who make the decisions and those that don't
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not any time soon
that's just wishful thinking
jews are the decision makers
you have to ask yourself how they are always in this position.
firstly, because they have so much money and secondly they know how to manipulate this

There are two kinds of people in this world
Those who make the decisions and those that don't

Well in that case, you might as just as well pack it in enjoy your servitude.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Well in that case, you might as just as well pack it in enjoy your servitude.
what I meant was I make the decisions not them
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what I meant was I make the decisions not them

I understand, but will they let you?
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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There are growing signs that the Bush/Nazi New World Order Nazi faction has been defeated but that the Rockefellers and their allies in the Old World Order faction are still fighting to preserve their power. It has also now been confirmed that the new Japanese government headed by Shinzo Abe and the Liberal Democratic Party was put in place via a disguised military coup d’etat, according to Japanese military intelligence sources. This implies the Rockefellers and their minions are being forced out of Japan, a CIA source added. This means 66 years of hostile foreign occupation of Japan may be about to end. There is still secret fighting going on though.

The gnostic illuminati faction in the West, for its part, is claiming victory and saying that “President Obama will leave the White House hanging by his neck from a helicopter.”

Of course the jury is still out on all this and only actual events and not talk, will determine if what the various sources are saying is true. However, it looks like it will be a Merry Solar New Year (even the pope now admits Christmas was not Christ’s birthday), and the power of love and friendship is winning over the forces of fear and hate.

There is also strong evidence emerging that the new Japanese government is planning to end the cabal’s monopoly on the creation of money by oops pay ben for the rest http://benjaminfulford.net/

Ben can't say the J word he says Sabattean or some thing like that.

The world will not end this Friday, December 21st 2012, but it almost did
Posted by benjaminDecember 17, 2012

This Friday will be the long talked about Mayan etc. December 21st, 2012 end of the world date. When that date comes and goes, it will be time to examine forensically exactly who was behind the various Nibiru, Planet X, photon belt, rapture etc. stories that all predicted the death of 80% or more of all humans. We need to do this because a very real plot to start World War 3 and a fake end-times did exist and, although the plot has been stopped, many extremely dangerous mass murderers behind this satanic scheme still walk the corridors of power in the West.

The purge of the over 26 pentagon generals who were planning to start WW3 and the fall of the Bush family are just a start. We need to deal with the rest of the cabal in order to make sure that humanity will never again be enslaved.

To help carry out this process, this week we will provide detailed forensic intelligence on some of the still active cabalists and their on the ground agents. We would also like to report extremely good, very concrete news on the new financial system but loose lips sink ships so we cannot give out much detail yet.

I could not find 26 generals but found two

Bad times for U.S. generals: Pentagon demotes 4-star General Ward

The Pentagon announced on Monday that Petraeus' successor in Afghanistan, Marine General John Allen, was also being investigated, as the scandal widened.

Panetta's decision to strip a star from General William Ward, a former commander of Africa Command, comes as the
military is reeling from a scandal involving two of the most powerful men in the United States' national security apparatus.

Although Ward's demotion to a three-star lieutenant general  will knock off over $30,0000 in retirement pay, he will still
receive a pension of over $200,000 a year, a U.S. defense official said.

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