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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2012, 10:02:30 PM »
Ever since the defeat of the German People and their trusted allies, it is pretty near impossible to talk about "truths". However, the whole world is increasingly becoming aware of the true virus.

Ultimately (as I have said numerous times before) it may only take a spark, sometime, somewhere. It is the height of arrogance to be walking on thin ice and assuming to get away with it forever.

I wouldn't know where to start of the damage that has been done to so called European people in the last 100 years. I guess we can start with the educational system which has intentionally dumbed-down kids, move on to cultural and societal beliefs in the 'isms" that have broken down traditions like family, and finally the environment which chokes-off innovation and production.

The irony of course is that it was the above European values that allowed Jews to conquer the world. The dumbing down has forced Jews to import Chinese and Indian scientists and doctors, the destruction of the productive environment has forced them to wage more wars to secure nations with cheap labor, and their goal of replacing European type population with Latin American types by giving them all the benefits to breed 5 or 6 kids for future cheap labor will change the demographic of the US where 50% of the population will be Spanish in 2 generations.

I can't see any of these trends changing anytime soon.
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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2012, 10:19:21 PM »
Ever since the defeat of the German People and their trusted allies, it is pretty near impossible to talk about "truths". However, the whole world is increasingly becoming aware of the true virus.

Ultimately (as I have said numerous times before) it may only take a spark, sometime, somewhere. It is the height of arrogance to be walking on thin ice and assuming to get away with it forever.

So long as their milk cow (the U.S.) is powerful and able to bully the rest of the world and kowtow to jooish interests, I don't foresee them falling through the ice.  However, the balance of power may very well be different on the other side of this financial-crisis-in-progress.   

For instance, movements are well under way to avoid using the U$D in international trade.  If the whole fiat currency scam collapses (as many of us expect), the U.S. could wake up one morning with less respect than Rodney Dangerfield.  Imagine its situation if no one feared it and most everyone hates and resents it because of its proud role as israhell's benefactor and the host of the majority of jooz in the world.

I can't help but believe that most of the world knows that jooz are directly and fully responsible for the current financial crisis, which centers around the many fraudulent financial instruments they created and foisted on the unsuspecting goyim around the world.  With no big bully to protect them, I can easily visualize a slew of short joobankers swinging from tall lamp posts...

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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2012, 10:31:55 PM »
Great comment, laconas!

I've often wondered (but have been too lazy to research it) how the damjooz managed to inject Christianity into Roman culture.  From what I've read, similar mystic religions were floating around in Greece, but didn't make much headway in that population.  Do you have a theory about it?

I can see why the kazars embraced judaism rather than Christianity or Islam:  that wretched bloodthirsty 'religion' was right down their alley!  Imagine how delighted a thief would be to be told that stealing from neighboring tribes was sanctioned and encouraged by the one and only deity--if the thief was a chosenut (which could be arranged).

I also wonder why/how Germans became such a spectacular, accomplished people.   Had they been students of ancient Greece and were still coasting on that knowledge/culture after they'd become infected with Christianity?  Was it their unique language which enabled them to think more precisely and efficiently than others?  (When I was in high school German was the language commonly used by scientists.)

I've always understood the jooz' hatred of the Germans to be the 'woman scorned' syndrome.  They had never had it so good anywhere on the planet as they had it in Germany...and then Hitler pulled the rug out from under them and burned the Welcome mat.   If the Germans had made them live in ghettos and imposed the normal restrictions on them they wouldn't have gotten their panties in such a wad when the jooshit hit the fan.  Plus, on some level they would have sensed how inferior they were to their hosts on nearly every level and resented them for it.

During Tiberius' rule(14 AD to 37 AD) so called Christianity wasn't anything special, mystics were everywhere preaching one belief or another. The whole thing really took a few centuries to spread and wasn't really cemented until 313 AD when Christianity was made the official religion of the empire. One theory is many of the so called Christians could read and write and had assumed many of the clerical type jobs in the Roman Empire that gave them influence. The leaders of the early church also made a good living going around telling people to give to the desert god. And for the great masses, the message of an after-life(oxymoron?) was probably very appealing.
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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2012, 10:49:42 PM »
During Tiberius' rule(14 AD to 37 AD) so called Christianity wasn't anything special, mystics were everywhere preaching one belief or another. The whole thing really took a few centuries to spread and wasn't really cemented until 313 AD when Christianity was made the official religion of the empire. One theory is many of the so called Christians could read and write and had assumed many of the clerical type jobs in the Roman Empire that gave them influence. The leaders of the early church also made a good living going around telling people to give to the desert god. And for the great masses, the message of an after-life(oxymoron?) was probably very appealing.
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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2012, 10:51:52 PM »
So long as their milk cow (the U.S.) is powerful and able to bully the rest of the world and kowtow to jooish interests, I don't foresee them falling through the ice.  However, the balance of power may very well be different on the other side of this financial-crisis-in-progress.   

For instance, movements are well under way to avoid using the U$D in international trade.  If the whole fiat currency scam collapses (as many of us expect), the U.S. could wake up one morning with less respect than Rodney Dangerfield.  Imagine its situation if no one feared it and most everyone hates and resents it because of its proud role as israhell's benefactor and the host of the majority of jooz in the world.

I can't help but believe that most of the world knows that jooz are directly and fully responsible for the current financial crisis, which centers around the many fraudulent financial instruments they created and foisted on the unsuspecting goyim around the world.  With no big bully to protect them, I can easily visualize a slew of short joobankers swinging from tall lamp posts...

I can't see how the whole fiat money system cannot collapse, and its collapse will mean war, a big war.
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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2012, 11:03:02 PM »
Germans are nothing special...Because of their pride & rebellion, they have been given into the hands of Satan & the Jews

They had their day in the sun in the 19th Century and early part of the 20th Century. But at this time all that is overshadowed because of that revolt against Jewish power they had 70 years ago.
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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2012, 06:20:27 AM »
"The Germans are not human beings. From now on, the word 'German' is the most horrible curse. From now on, the word 'German' strikes us to the quick. We have nothing to discuss. We will not get excited. We will kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day ... If you cannot kill a German with a bullet, then kill him with your bayonet. If your part of the front is quiet and there is no fighting, then kill a German in the meantime ... If you have already killed a German, then kill another one - there is nothing more amusing to us than a heap of German corpses. Don't count the days, don't count the kilometers. Count only one thing: the number of Germans you have killed. Kill the Germans! ...  - Kill the Germans! Kill!" 

Ilya Grigoryevich Ehrenburg
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One need not wonder if the Soviet Mongolian hordes were harsh to the German women as they rampaged across eastern Europe ... this order above would get any man standing before a firing squad today.

The jew Ehrenburg (aka the rape advocate) actually put the holohoax on the map, with the jew-collaborative fiction known as the "Black Book", 1945.
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2012, 09:26:19 AM »
I wouldn't know where to start of the damage that has been done to so called European people in the last 100 years. I guess we can start with the educational system which has intentionally dumbed-down kids, move on to cultural and societal beliefs in the 'isms" that have broken down traditions like family, and finally the environment which chokes-off innovation and production.

The irony of course is that it was the above European values that allowed Jews to conquer the world. The dumbing down has forced Jews to import Chinese and Indian scientists and doctors, the destruction of the productive environment has forced them to wage more wars to secure nations with cheap labor, and their goal of replacing European type population with Latin American types by giving them all the benefits to breed 5 or 6 kids for future cheap labor will change the demographic of the US where 50% of the population will be Spanish in 2 generations.

I can't see any of these trends changing anytime soon.

Nor can I, Laconas. The dumb-ing down and browning of western nations has been a success story for the enemies for the enemies of humanity for a long time, for me, it goes back to 1967.

White nations are being d-i-s-m-a-n-t-l-e-d for a purpose:

THE SHORT VERSION:

IF YOU AGREE with the following statement, then you understand what "globalization" means--and you needn't read the rest of this mailing:

IMMIGRATION, REFUGEE, and ASYLUM policies in Canada and America ARE BEING USED to effect the GENOCIDE AND CULTURICIDE of the white race in NORTH AMERICA--to create a borderless free-trade market for greedy capitalists and a one-world socialist State for utopian Marxists; both camps requiring forced integration and racial mongrelization to effect.

[[NOTE: GREAT BRITAIN suffers the same
CAPITALIST-/MARXIST-DRIVEN tyrannies.]]


IN OTHER WORDS - immigration, refugee and asylum policies ARE BEING USED to effect the GENOCIDE AND CULTURICIDE of the white race in NORTH AMERICA--to create a borderless free-trade market for greedy capitalists and a one-world socialist State for utopian Marxists; both camps requiring forced integration and racial mongrelization to effect.

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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2012, 10:16:19 AM »
So long as their milk cow (the U.S.) is powerful and able to bully the rest of the world and kowtow to jooish interests, I don't foresee them falling through the ice.  However, the balance of power may very well be different on the other side of this financial-crisis-in-progress.

Indeed, but no empire lasts forever, we have the history to prove it.   

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For instance, movements are well under way to avoid using the U$D in international trade.  If the whole fiat currency scam collapses (as many of us expect), the U.S. could wake up one morning with less respect than Rodney Dangerfield.  Imagine its situation if no one feared it and most everyone hates and resents it because of its proud role as israhell's benefactor and the host of the majority of jooz in the world.

Good analogy Mr. Graybeard. We all know where the once proud Reich's Mark went, finally it took a wheelbarrow of worthless paper to buy a loaf of bread.

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I can't help but believe that most of the world knows that jooz are directly and fully responsible for the current financial crisis, which centers around the many fraudulent financial instruments they created and foisted on the unsuspecting goyim around the world.  With no big bully to protect them, I can easily visualize a slew of short joobankers swinging from tall lamp posts...

Judging by my community here with a current population of 2,600 and 3 very active Churches: Catholic Church ~ Anglican United Church ~ Jehovah's Witnesses (who regularly collect and then proudly send these $$$ donations to poor Izzy-land).
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2012, 10:21:02 AM »
Germans are nothing special...Because of their pride & rebellion, they have been given into the hands of Satan & the Jews

Frank, have you actually ever been in Poland? Or were you born in America?
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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2012, 11:05:21 AM »
The jew Ehrenburg (aka the rape advocate) actually put the holohoax on the map, with the jew-collaborative fiction known as the "Black Book", 1945.

THE BLACK BOOK

About the evil, universal murder of Jews
By the German-Fascist Aggressors
In the temporarily occupied regions
Of the Soviet Union
And in the Camps of Poland
During the War 1941 – 1945

Compiled and Edited by
Vasily Grossman
Ilya Erenburg

Kiev
M.I.P. “Oberig”
1991

It lists every chapter, but unfortunately no details.

AMAZON DESCRIPTION: The Complete Black Book of Russian Jewry is a collection of eyewitness testimonies, letters, diaries, affidavits, and other documents on the activities of the Nazis against Jews in the camps, ghettoes, and towns of Eastern Europe. Arguably, the only apt comparison is to The Gulag Archipelago of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. This definitive edition, including for the first time materials omitted from previous editions, is a major addition to the literature on the Holocaust. Now available in paperback, it will be of particular interest to students, teachers, and scholars of the Holocaust and those interested in the history of Europe. The Black Book is the single most important text documenting the slaughter of Jews in the USSR. Until now, it was only available in English in truncated editions. Because of its profound significance, this definitive English translation of The Complete Black Book of Russian Jewry is a major literary and intellectual event. "

(O)ne of the most important books in the vast literature on the Holocaust...The extent of cruelty exhibited here and the uncontrolled ways in which it happened are a graphic demonstration of what the human race is capable of when left entirely to its own devices."-William B. Helmreich, Long Island Jewish World "[P]repared by Ehrenburg and Grossman themselves, with fine literary skill...Each section of the documents has a useful set of notes compiled by David Patterson, author of this excellent translation, which clarifies factual issues, and presents brief biographies of more significant figures."

-Richard Overy, Times Literary Supplement.

Interesting Website Of course the little Jews get this spread on their bagels to keep the H/C alive and well. $$$
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2012, 11:13:37 AM »
THE FOLLOWING ESSAY is instructive.

Whites' Ready-made Civilization ©2000

THERE'S NOWHERE FOR WHITES TO GO

How High-Culture Civilizations are Destroyed

Civilizations begin as racially-, religiously-, culturally- and linguistically-connected people, working together to build and retain their race and culture.

If you study the history of white tribes in Britain and Europe, you'll discover how America came to be--and why r a c e ((genetic heritage)) is so vitally important to building and keeping civilization.

Culture is a genetic manifestation of the heritable characteristics in a gene pool ((of racial and/or interracial ethnic groups)).

In other words, black Africans could not build Japanese culture, and Japanese Asians could not build African culture. Their differences in heritable character, temperament, intelligence ((and even physical traits)) make it impossible, as they are evolutionarily disparate races, which fact is why liberals' "pluralism" and "tolerance" effect a divide-and-conquer consequence in white Western democracies; terms used to trick you into accepting open-borders immigration of diverse races.

For any mongrelist, racial and/or sex differences impede Utopia. How?:

If there are heritable differences which make certain gene pools incompatible, then Marxists' socialist Utopia is impossible to effect. So the importance of interracial genetic differences -- of heritable differences between races -- must be forcefully denied.

[[Note: Mongrelists believe that race doesn't matter ((generally, they believe it doesn't matter who produces offspring with whom)).

So if men and women are heritably different regarding certain human drives, then men and women are inherently u-n-e-q-u-a-l.

Marxists' Utopia is premised on effecting near-perfect equality by shedding capitalism's meritocratic competitions and the nuclear family's anti-collective influences.

There has been a massive propaganda push this century by leftists ((by progressive Jews, secular humanists, and liberal Christians)) to deny any heritable differences between the races, between the cultures that races build, and between men and women.

Leftists argue that there is about .01 genetic difference between the races, and that that relates only to physical differences. Well, the sun doesn't rise and set each day and bears don't doo-doo in the woods if you believe that. The differences are large, stark and deadly!

Whites' Ready-made Civilization

Have you noticed that people of color are fleeing their homelands ((or planning to flee)) to any white Western democracy, particularly America or Canada?

There's a ready-made, high-culture civilization in white Western democracies---so why would a person of color try building high-culture in his/her own country?

Unfortunately for white civil societies, the invaders ((legal and illegal)) destroy what they seek because they bring with them what they flee from: heritable low-culture proclivities.

Where Can Whites Go To Be With Their Own Race?

A recent Census Bureau report on Maryland's demographics shows a decline of whites there but a rise of black, Asian and Hispanic populations (("Black Population posts fast growth," September 4th, Metropolitan section of The Washington Times)).

Whites still flee this Marxist government's forced integration of minorities into white communities.

Maryland Department of Planning economist Mark Goldstein sees the steady flow of minorities into the state as part of a growing trend in America: "migration from bigger cities and suburban areas in search of a better quality of life," which drives whites out of their communities.

Read my essay, "Playing Marxists' Bet-Your-Life Lotto in America." It explains the cycle of whites' high-culture communities picking up roots in certain parts of America to flee incoming, low-culture people of color, then picking up and moving again to escape liberals' continuing forced integration.

Soon there'll be no place for whites to go and find other whites with which to carrying forward the unique gene pool that conceived and built the greatest civilization in history.

Marxist Social Engineers Destroy Whites' Civilization

We're witnessing how past civilizations were destroyed:

the importation of diverse races and cultures lacking the heritable wherewithal to carry on what the PROGENITOR white race and culture conceived and built.

In the past, such destruction of high-culture civilization was effected by invading barbarians.

Today, our elite politicians on both the left ((one-world Utopians hoping to build a mongrelized collective of workers for the State)) and right ((greedy capitalists hungry for low-wage workers and more consumers to heat up the economy for profits)) are simply importing tribes from around the world; tribes which otherwise might have raised armies to take what they could not conceive and build.

And white males appear too feminized to save their gene pool and culture from genocide and culturicide.
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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2012, 02:42:09 PM »
Frank, have you actually ever been in Poland? Or were you born in America?
Born here, 3rd generation, grandparents born in the old country.

Don't feel bad, same description could be used for Poles.

You may be surprised, but I consider Germany more advanced in many ways...But along with rise of anti-Christianity in elite circles in 'enlightened' Germany and misguided actions by Prussian militarist elements which drew Germany into both WW, I think my criticism has justification.

Satan use both the Kaiser & Hitler.

However modern Germany is a relatively young nation with much promise
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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2012, 02:51:15 PM »


Hitler was a monster but Stalin and Lenin were good people.

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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2012, 03:48:02 PM »
BTW, when I say 'modern Germany' I mean Germany never existed as unified nation until 19th century.

Also, the whole Bolshevik cabal were demons...Their name is legion.

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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2012, 04:13:09 PM »
So if men and women are heritably different regarding certain human drives, then men and women are inherently u-n-e-q-u-a-l.


This is an inaccurate statement and a typical misconception that is so transparent & misogynistic it's hilarious. It's oft used by the muslim crowd to justify their jew-like sharia too.

DIFFERENT does not mean UNEQUAL.

Different just means not identical, which NO ONE ever claimed that women & men are. Men very well know of these differences & have gleefully exploited them, resulting in inequality. Not being identical DOES NOT mean they are not equal. Equal does not mean identicalness.

This is why very few women are so reluctant to support these sort of movements.

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And white males appear too feminized to save their gene pool and culture from genocide and culturicide.
Shaming feminists won't solve the problem, & in any case "feminizing' isn't the cause; it's plain old masculinity to blame. If you lost your so-called masculinity bc women make similar salaries...you never had it in the first place. Fathers need to teach their sons better.

On the rest of article, good points on race & culture wars etc. Race mixing was started by men & men are responsible for most of it throughout history; he failed to mention that. I object to referring to mixed race ppl as "mongrels" though. There are many problems w/race mixing, even studies done showing biracial ppl have more psychological problems w/their identity etc (Obama, Tiger Woods, Halle Berry good ex). But most don't put forethought into avoiding problems they see everyday. AFAIK, the majority of ppl in all races still mate w/their own. This could change w/religious conversion & other social factors.

Problem is certain ppl who cannot raise quality offspring are mating too much. Their aggressive culture then overwhelms, as the original apathetic pop'ns destroy themselves.

Racial tension is also big problem with importing loads of radically different ppl.
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2012, 08:30:03 PM »
BTW, when I say 'modern Germany' I mean Germany never existed as unified nation until 19th century.

Correct, Old Bismark virtually pounded it together.

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Also, the whole Bolshevik cabal were demons...Their name is legion.

Well, we know who they were, nothing much has changed actually. 8)
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2012, 08:40:46 PM »
Now the Germans know how the Greeks and Romans felt after the Jews with their Christianity set human evolution back a 1,500 years. Imagine where the world would have been if Greco-Roman thought was allowed to grow without being choked by a Jewish desert god who had no tolerance for logic, reason, art, innovation, and even the Olympic Games.

The Greeks and Romans accepted their fate and to this day bow down to the son of a Jewish god. In the same way younger Germans have learned to bow to The Holocaust which represents the visible symbol of worldwide Jewish power. As the older German generation dies off the reasons for the great revolt against Jewish power in the middle of the 20th Century will also die off.

I think it's an oversimplification to say Greco-Roman culture was all good & Christianity was all bad.  Plato/Pythagoras were good; Aristotle was bad...humanity & science vs oligarch principle.  While I share the suspicion of Christianity being a jewish plot to weaken whites, perhaps that plan backfired somewhat.  If I'm not mistaken Rome was already degenerating under her bloated empire before adopting Christianity.  German & France did better IIRC while operating under Christianity than under jewish "secularism" (ie Napoleon/French Revolution & Weimar).  Much of the supposed faults of Christianity (ie causing "Dark Ages") are due to corruption, ignorance etc & not intrinsic faults of Christianity.

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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2012, 08:42:25 PM »
If and when you have a moment, please visit  Gerry Frederic's Website you will find it most informative.

Thank you for posting this link SG.
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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2012, 09:10:45 PM »
Born here, 3rd generation, grandparents born in the old country.

Don't feel bad, same description could be used for Poles. You may be surprised, but I consider Germany more advanced in many ways...

I don't feel bad, Frank - however, certain elements behind the scenes did an awful of lot of damage. Germany had no oil, but their intellectual wealth was the best war-booty EVER.

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But along with rise of anti-Christianity in elite circles in 'enlightened' Germany and misguided actions by Prussian militarist elements which drew Germany into both WW, I think my criticism has justification.

To my knowledge there was NO anti Christianity in Germany that I know of. You might want to look a little further east ~ Ex Soviet Union.

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Satan use both the Kaiser & Hitler.

I disagree, the ''Satan'' that you are talking about, sounds like heavy j-propaganda, Frank, we know very well how good they are at that when it comes to misinformation.

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However modern Germany is a relatively young nation with much promise

Sad to say that, but Mrs. Merkel is just another oh-so-willing tool, picked and groomed by the you-know-who. Years in advance, just like here... Sad but true.

Visit and read some articles here: http://www.germancross.com/indice.htm - also http://carolynyeager.net/

"SEE NEW ARTICLES: GERMANY, HITLER, HOLOCAUST, ALLIED ATROCITIES, CONCENTRATION CAMP, WAR CRIMES, JEWIS THOUGHT".

He also wrote: Did you know that one of the 'jewels' in Philadelphia was Germantown and that this area, after the Germans left has deteriorated into a cesspool?

Did you know that the same can be said of all areas worldwide from which the German settlers have either been removed by force of arms, or left voluntarily? The Balkans, the Volgas region, the Sudetenland, Pomerania, Silesia, West Prussia, East Prussia. First the Germans come and create and built like noone else, then they are mass-murdered and the rest is driven out and subsequently these regions degenerate to an unfathomable degree.

Would someone please explain this insanity to me?

1936: Churchill stated in a conversation: "Germany is getting too strong. We must smash her".

And they blame Adolf - ha, ha, ha.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.