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« on: January 17, 2012, 05:19:23 PM »
A Challenge to Dr. Christian Lindtner

By Jürgen Graf ~ January 2012 ~ source

One of the most remarkable aspects of the history of Holocaust Revisionism is that there have been virtually no apostates. It is true that a few revisionists have recanted their views, but practically all of them acted under duress. The most glaring example was the young American Jew David Cole whom the thugs of the Jewish Defence League constantly terrorized, making his life a living hell until he finally threw in the towel and made an abject apology in a letter to JDL chieftain Irv Rubin. Another example was the Frenchman Dr. Bruno Gollnisch, a professor of Japanese studies and leading member of the Front National. Facing a prison term for his revisionist heresy, Dr. Gollnisch abjured his convictions in order to get away with a light sentence. This is perfectly understandable and excusable; after all, not everybody will volunteer for martyrdom.

Unlike David Cole and Dr. Bruno Gollnisch, Danish Sanscritist Dr. Christian Lindtner has renounced his former revisionist views without evident coercion. In July 2011, Lindtner explained his about-face in two e-mails to Dr. Frederick Toben, in which he called Holocaust Revisionism "Chutzpah," thus moving me to write a sharp rebuttal ("The Intellectual and Moral Bankruptcy of a Scholar: Dr. Christian Lindtner and Holocaust Revisionism"), which was subsequently published by several revisionist and pro-revisionist websites. [1]

On 24 July 2011 Lindtner wrote a reply. [2] As he did not send his article to me, I was unaware of its existence until quite recently (1 December 2011). His text only came to my attention because the website "Holocaust Controversies", which is run by the four clowns Roberto Mühlenkamp, Nick Terry, Jonathan Harrison and Sergey Romanov, had published an interview with "former denier Christian Lindtner" [3] in which he referred to this article.

I will not bother to reply to all of Lindtner's arguments. As for Babi Jar, the mystical "Aktion 1005" or the case of Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski, I have nothing to add to what I wrote in my first article; I will confine myself to the following eight points:

1) Wolfgang Curilla's Books about the German "Ordnungspolizei"

Lindtner points out that I have not read the two books by Wolfgang Curilla which allegedly prove that "more than four million Jews were murdered by various units of German police etc." (Lindtner's first e-mail to Toben). This is quite true; I frankly admitted it in my article. In the meantime, I have ordered Curilla's Die deutsche Ordnungspolizei und der Holocaust im Baltikum und in Weissrussland 1941-1944 (Schöning, 2006) which will be indispensable for the study about the Einsatzgruppen which Carlo Mattogno, Thomas Kues and I plan to write. (Owing to the wealth of material and the extreme complexity of the subject, our study will certainly not be ready before 2013.) Having a very tight schedule, I will only be able to read Curilla's book in the second half of January; thereupon I will write a detailed review, which will be available on my website juergen-graf.vho.org/, plus the websites of the Adelaide Institute and the National Journal (http://globalfire.tv), by late February or early March. Should Curilla's study have any merits, I will of course duly acknowledge them.

2) The Jäger Report

Lindtner writes:

"J. G. claims that there is no German documentary evidence for the murder of Jewish women and children. But, in truth, there are hundreds of documents. Within easy reach is the report of Karl Jäger, 1 December 1941. See the recent book by Wulfram Wette, ‘Karl Jäger, Mörder der litauischen Juden' (Frankfurt a. M. 2011). […] By 1 December, the toll had reached 137,246. Jäger wrote: ‘Ich kann heute feststellen, dass das Ziel, das Judenproblem für Litauen zu lösen, vom Einsatzkommando erreicht worden ist. In Litauen gibt es keine Juden mehr, ausser den Arbeitsjuden und ihren Familien' (I can state today that the goal to solve the Jewish problem for Lithuania has been reached by the Einsatzkommando. There are no more Jews in Lithuania, except for the working Jews and their families)."

Answer:

As a matter of fact, I never claimed that there is "no German documentary evidence for the murder of Jewish women and children." Unfortunately it is quite probable that a certain number of Jewish women and children were indeed killed, and I evidently cannot exclude that there might be authentic documentary evidence for this. On the other hand, the statement ascribed to Jäger ("There are no more Jews in Lithuania, except for the working Jews and their families") is demonstrably false.

At the end of May 1942 there were many old people living in the ghetto of Vilnius (Lithuania), the oldest one, a woman by the name of Chana Stamleriene, had been born in 1852. There were also 3,693 children under 16.[4] The angel of death was not hovering over these Jewish children: As we learn from an "Anthology of Holocaust Literature" authored by three Jews, more than 20 schools were founded in the first year of the existence of the ghetto. In October 1942 between 1,500 and 1,800 children were studying at these schools, and in April 1943 school attendance became compulsory. [5]

In the summer and autumn of 1944 many Jews of various nationalities (including Hungarian Jews who had previously been deported to Lithuania and Latvia in order to work for the German army) were transferred from Kaunas and Riga to the Stutthof concentration camp. On 26 July 1944, 1,983 Jews, most of them from Lithuania, arrived at Stutthof. 850 of them were under 15 years old, which means that the oldest ones had been 12 when the Germans conquered Lithuania in the summer of 1941. [6]

It goes without saying that all these old people and children would have been killed at once had there been a German policy of systematic extermination. Together with the absence of material evidence for the alleged huge slaughter, this fact definitely refutes the Jäger report and raises doubts about its authenticity (unless Jäger deliberately lied, which is not impossible but rather unlikely).

3) Dr. Joseph Goebbels's Diary Entry from 27 March, 1942

As was to be expected, Lindtner tries to prove the reality of the Holocaust by quoting a famous entry from the diary of National Socialist Propaganda Minister Dr. Joseph Goebbels. On 27 March 1942, Dr. Goebbels stated in his diary that "a barbaric method," which he preferred not to describe, was used against the Jews, and that 60% of them would be liquidated, the other 40% would be used for labor.

Answer:

No revisionist has ever been able to furnish a satisfactory explanation for this passage. But let us compare it with what Dr. Goebbels had written in the same diary only 20 days earlier, on 7 March 1942:[7]

"There are about 11 million Jews in Europe [A heavily inflated figure!]. Later it will be necessary to concentrate them in the East. After the war some island such as Madagascar can be assigned to them."

The deportation of the European Jews to Madagascar was not Dr. Goebbels's brainchild. The so-called "Madagaskar-Plan" was taken very seriously by the German leadership, but finally abandoned as unfeasible. [8]

The argument that the National Socialists dropped the Madagascar Plan between 7 and 27 March 1942 and decided to exterminate the Jews instead – which would explain the glaring discrepancy between the two entries – would be absolutely untenable from the point of view of the orthodox Holocaust story, which Lindtner wholeheartedly endorses. According to orthodox Holocaust historians, the first "extermination camp" – Chelmno – started its operations as early as December 1941. Since it is unthinkable that a local commander would have been allowed to set up an extermination camp without an order from the highest authorities, an extermination policy must already have existed in late 1941, if the claims about Chelmno are correct (which revisionists of course dispute[9]). Being one of the leading figures of the Third Reich, Dr. Goebbels would certainly have been informed of such a policy, so how does Lindtner explain the fact that on 7 March 1942 the Propaganda Minister spoke of the concentration of the Jews in the East and advocated sending them to Madagascar, or some other island, after the war?

Let us sum up: While the revisionists are unable to explain the second entry in Goebbels's diary, orthodox Holocaust historians are at a loss to explain the first one!

4) The "Gassing Cellar"

Like legions of other Holocaust propagandists before him, Lindtner claims that the well-known letter Karl Bischoff sent to Hans Kammler on 29 January 1943, which mentions a "Vergasungskeller" (gassing cellar), [10] proves that the morgues of Crematoria II and III at Auschwitz-Birkenau were planned as homicidal gas chambers.

Answer:

While I fully agree with Lindtner's statement that the explanations of the word "Vergasungskeller" adduced by certain revisionist researchers – plus the pseudo-revisionist David Irving – were untenable, Carlo Mattogno's thesis that the SS planned to use these morgues for disinfestation, but later abandoned this project, [11] seems possible to me. One thing I know for sure is that they could not possibly have been used as homicidal gas chambers.

Two German wartime documents quoted by C. Mattogno in one of his articles [12] amply suffice to demolish the myth of the "extermination camp" Auschwitz-Birkenau. On 20 July 1943 SS-physician Dr. Wirths asked the Central Construction Office of Auschwitz to set up provisional morgues in several sectors of the Birkenau camp. At that time, the bodies of prisoners who had died in the camp were stored in wooden sheds before being taken to the crematoria. Birkenau was infested with rats; these rodents were attracted by the bodies and feasted on them. In his letter Dr. Wirths emphasized that the rats were the carriers of flees which could spread plague, and that an outbreak of this dread disease would have dire consequences for the staff and the prisoners. On 4 August 1943 Karl Bischoff, chief of the Central Construction Office, answered that no provisional morgues were needed, as the bodies of deceased prisoners would henceforth be taken to the crematoria twice a day. [13] This proves that the morgues of the crematoria were used to store corpses at all times and hence could not have been used as homicidal gas chambers.

In May 1944 the problem arose again. On the 22th of that month the new chief of the Central Construction Office of Auschwitz, SS-Obersturmführer Werner Jothann, wrote a letter in which he stressed that the corpses of prisoners who had died in the camp would be removed every morning, so that there was no need for building provisional morgues. [14] The date of this letter is vitally important. According to Danuta Czech's Kalendarium, [15] which is the mainstay of orthodox historiography on Auschwitz, 62.000 Hungarian Jews were deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau between 17 and 22 May 1944; 41,000 of them were allegedly "gassed without registration," which means that the morgues of the crematoria must have been used as homicidal gas chambers day and night during the whole period. How could any bodies of prisoners who had died from "natural" causes (disease, exhaustion etc.) during the same time be stored in these same morgues?

Even before the publication of these documents, it was clear that the presence of corpses in the morgues of the crematoria prevented them from being used as homicidal gas chambers. Lindter was aware of this fact as early as 1998. On 24 January 1998, the prestigious Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende published an article by Lindtner ("Holocaust i Nyt Lys," The Holocaust in New Light) which I later translated into German for Germar Rudolf's former German periodical. [16] In this article, Lindtner stated:

"It is very difficult to imagine that the morgues of the four crematoria at Birkenau could have been used as gas chambers. The presence of the corpses would have prevented this."

So as early as 1998 Lindtner knew that the "Vergasungskeller," whatever it referred to, could not have been a homicidal gas chamber in one of the morgues of Birkenau! Most probably this argument was brought to his attention by Prof. Robert Faurisson, who has often stressed its overwhelming importance. The fact that Christian Lindtner now rehashes the "Vergasungskeller" story to defend the moribund gas chamber lie unmasks him as a blatantly dishonest individual.

5) The Gas Vans

As for the gas vans, the existence of which I had disputed in my first article, Lindtner writes:

"Good German evidence of gassing Jews and others in vans and in chambers […] is found in the recent book edited by Günter Morsch and Bertrand Perz, ‘Neue Forschungen zu Nationalsozialistischen Massentötungen durch Giftgas' (Berlin 2011)."

Answer:

An extensive reply to this collective volume is available in German.[17] A comparison between these two books will be highly illustrative.

6) Heinrich Himmler's alleged speech at Sonthofen (June 1944)

In order to bolster his Holocaust claims, Lindtner refers to a speech Heinrich Himmler delivered in Sonthofen on 21 June 1944. In this speech, the Reichsführer SS allegedly said:

"It is good that we were tough enough to exterminate the Jews in our sphere of influence."

In my critique of Lindtner, I adduced plenty of evidence that, while the Jews in most countries controlled by the Germans had indeed suffered atrociously, there had been no extermination policy. Two of my key arguments were the following:

- On 27 July 1944 the administration of Auschwitz compiled a statistics about the prisoners "temporarily quartered in the camp of the Hungarian Jews." The document shows that until that date 3,318 Hungarian Jews had received medical treatment at the camp hospital. 1,426 of them had undergone surgeries.[18] According to the orthodox Holocaust story, a huge number of Hungarian Jews were gassed at Auschwitz between 15 May and 9 July 1944. While not a single one of these alleged gas chamber murders is confirmed by a German wartime document, the medical treatment of 3,138 Hungarian Jews until 27 July 1944 is indeed substantiated by documents.

- As Polish Holocaust historian Henryk Swiebocki has documented, 11,246 prisoners underwent surgeries at Auschwitz between 10 September 1942 and 23 February 1944.[19]

For any moderately intelligent person these undisputed facts constitute sufficient proof that Auschwitz could not possibly have been an extermination camp. Being unwilling to acknowledge the obvious, Lindtner reacts with a tergiversation:

"JG reminds us of the fact that not all Jews had been exterminated. Many survived. […] But Himmler was speaking of those that had been exterminated. Did Himmler not know what he was talking about? And what about many other statements from Himmler to the same effect? One expects a fair comment from Graf."

Answer:

The most famous of the "many other statements from Himmler to the same effect" is doubtless the speech the Reichsführer SS made in Posen on 4 October 1943. In this speech, an alleged recording of which was presented during the Nuremberg Tribunal, the following is stated:

"I am talking about the Jewish evacuation, the extermination of the Jews. It is one of those things that are easily said. ‘The Jewish people is being exterminated, every party member will tell you, ‘perfectly clear, it is part of our program, we are eliminating the Jews, exterminating them'."

Here at least five things should strike Lindtner as very odd:

- Many of Himmler's speeches, which he held freely and without manuscript, are said to have been recorded on dictating machines, so they could be typed up later. These recordings are of poor quality. During the Nuremberg Trail against the Ministries, the U.S. prosecution claimed to have found 44 records with Himmler's speech in Alfred Rosenberg's files. [20] How did those records get into Rosenberg's files?

- During his cross-examination in Nuremberg after the war, SS General Gottlob Berger, who had attended the Posen meeting, stated that the transcript was incorrect, since many important issues mentioned by Himmler are not included, whereas he could "say with certainty that [Himmler] did not speak about the extermination of the Jews…" [21]

- The original transcript of this speech covers many pages. The two pages containing the above quote have been typed on a different typewriter than the rest of the document and have also been paginated by hand instead of typed, as the rest of the document. [22] This raises the suspicion that these pages have been replaced by someone.

- To the best of my knowledge, it has never been examined by independent researchers whether the voice of the speaker is indeed Himmler's. SS General Berger said this about the voice:[23] "It's an intermediate thing between the voice of Himmler and Hitler. […] That is not Heinrich Himmler's voice." But then later, "It might be Heinrich Himmler's voice."

- The program of the NSDAP, which every SS man knew, did not demand "the extermination of the Jews" but simply stated that no Jew could be a German citizen. So how could Himmler utter such nonsense?

Now let us quote from another Himmler speech. On 23 November 1942, at a time when, according to orthodox Holocaust historians, all six "extermination camps" were performing their grisly task around the clock, the Reichsführer SS stated in Bad Tölz: [24]

"The Jewish question in Europe has changed radically. […] The Jew has been evacuated from Germany and is now living in the East, where he is working on our roads, railroads etc."

So if Lindtner uses Himmler's Posen speech to "prove" that in the autumn of 1943 the Jews were being exterminated, I will use his Bad Tölz speech to "prove" that they had been resettled in the occupied Soviet territories, where they were performing manual labor! This would be in perfect agreement with the numerous German documents describing precisely such a policy.

In order to clarify the matter, it is advisable to examine some documents from the autumn of 1943. Three days before Himmler's Posen speech, on 1 October 1943, SS-Obersturmführer Werner Jothann, chief of the Central Construction Office of the Auschwitz concentration camp, drafted a preliminary cost estimate for the enlargement of the prisoners' hospital (Häftlingslazarett). The enlarged hospital was to comprise 114 hospital barracks (Krankenbaracken), 11 barracks for patients in need of care (Pflegebaracken) and 12 barracks for critically ill patients (Baracken für Schwerkranke). The combined cost of these 137 barracks was estimated at 5,161,329 Reichsmark, which would amount to about a billion(!) dollars of today's value.[25] Quite a lot of money, especially if one considers that all these sick detainees were soon to be exterminated by gassing or lethal injection, is it not, Dr. Lindtner?

On 9 December 1943, two months and five days after Himmler's Posen speech, Richard Glücks, inspector of the concentration camps, sent a circular letter to the commanders of all camps, including Auschwitz, in which he stated that Jewish prisoners in urgent need of surgery could be treated in the nearest hospital, but the operation had to be performed by a Jewish physician.[26] This directive was modified five days later: In case no Jewish doctor was available, a non-Jewish physician could be used as well. [27]

As far as Himmler's alleged Sonthofen speech is concerned, the situation is basically the same: the recording is of very poor quality, and Himmler's statement that the Jews in the German sphere of influence had been exterminated is patently false.

From these facts, any rationally thinking person will draw the following conclusion: Either these speeches are forgeries, or Himmler did indeed "not know what he was talking about," as Lindtner says. In the latter case, the Reichsführer SS was just a gullible simpleton who naively thought that the Jews were being slaughtered in his camps and was pitifully ignorant of the fact that his SS doctors and nurses spared no effort to save the lives of the inmates, non-Jews and Jews alike!

7) My Alleged Methodology

Lindtner has the effrontery to write:

"JG bases his denial on the fact that there are – true – a few cases of false documents and witnesses. He then jumps to the general conclusion that all, or nearly all, documents and witnesses are false. Jumping like a ball to general conclusions is not what we expect from a serious scholar."

Answer:

Of course I never claimed that all – or nearly all – documents presented by the Holocaust historians are forgeries. In my opinion, these documents can be subdivided into three categories:

1. Obvious forgeries, which are very rare. I can only think of three cases: The Franke-Griksch Report and the two preposterous documents about gas vans (Just document and Becker document).

2. Documents of questionably authenticity, such as the Himmler speeches and the Einsatz­gruppen reports.

3. Unquestionably authentic documents whose meaning is deliberately distorted by orthodox Holocaust historians (a good example is Adolf Hitler's speech of 30 January 1939).

As far as the eyewitnesses are concerned (of course I am talking about gas chamber witnesses, for I never disputed that there might be trustworthy witnesses to shootings), Lindtner magnanimously concedes that there are "a few cases of false witnesses," but neither in his two emails to Dr. Toben nor in his reply to my critique does he name a single reliable witness, because he is perfectly aware that every competent revisionist could easily demolish any testimony of a "gas chamber witness." Having analyzed the testimony of 30 key Auschwitz "gas chamber witnesses" in one of my books,[28] I know that all of them are absurd. The same applies to the self-styled "eyewitnesses" to homicidal gassings in the other five alleged "extermination camps." These "witnesses" were nothing but a bunch of liars.

As I pointed out in my first critique of Lindtner, the Danish Sanscrit scholar would have acted wisely if he had contented himself with defending the "Shoa by bullets" story, which undeniably contains certain elements of truth and is much more difficult to refute than the "Shoah by gas" legend. Being well acquainted with the revisionist literature, Lindtner should have been intelligent enough to understand that, in the case of the gas chambers, his position was hopeless from the beginning. Indeed he is unable to quote a single reliable gas chamber witness. The only alleged documentary evidence he adduces, the Vergasungskeller letter, is worthless, as Lindtner himself implicitly admitted as early as in January 1998. So what is Lindtner's evidence that even a single Jew was gassed in an "extermination camp"?

8) "For Serious Scholarship, Graf Has only Contempt"

About my person and the value of my revisionist work, Lindtner has the following to say:

"What about Mr. Graf himself? Graf has a rare command of many languages. To my ear, he speaks even Danish admirably well. He is a prolific writer and translator. He fights for his beliefs. […] With all his abilities, it is a pity that Graf has little or no training as a scholar. For serious scholarship, he has only contempt, as a dilettante often has."

Answer:

In my opinion, the criteria of serious scholarship are the following:

1. A serious scholar presents his thesis in a well-organized and coherent way, backing up his claims with references to verifiable sources.

2. A serious scholar does not ignore arguments which contradict his thesis, but discusses and refutes them.

Dr. Christian Lindtner definition of serious scholarship seems to coincide with mine. In his interview with the four clowns Mühlenkamp, Terry, Harrison and Romanov, he stated:

"It is not enough to defend your own thesis. You must also refute that of your opponent. In a philosophical debate, opponents should not be ignored or condemned, but refuted."

This is precisely the method of every serious revisionist, from Wilhelm Stäglich to Robert Faurisson, from Arthur Butz to Germar Rudolf and from Carlo Mattogno to Thomas Kues. I am convinced that I am no exception. But Dr. Lindtner does not share this view. For him, Holocaust revisionism (which Lindtner, using Jewish newspeak, calls "Holocaust denial") is "chutzpah." As for myself, I allegedly "only have contempt for serious scholarship."

Let Lindtner prove these claims. I challenge him to write a detailed refutation of one of the three following revisionist books:

1. J. Graf, C. Mattogno, Concentration Camp Majdanek. A Historical and Technical study, 3rd edition, The Barnes Review, Washington, DC, 2011.

2. C. Mattogno, J. Graf, Treblinka – Extermination Camp or Transit Camp?, reprint, The Barnes Review, Washington, DC, 2011.

3. J. Graf, C. Mattogno and T. Kues, Sobibor: Holocaust Propaganda and Reality, The Barnes Review, Washington, DC, 2010.

Incidentally, I presented the same challenge to the clown Roberto Mühlenkamp in last June. Predictably, Mühlenkamp threw in the towel. But the august scholar Dr. Christian Lindtner can certainly do better. Surely it will be very easy for him to make mincemeat of a book written by people who propagate "chutzpah" and "only have contempt for serious scho­larship"!

I expect Lindtner to publish his critique by the end of April 2012. Five months should be amply sufficient for this task. Upon receiving his text, I will at once publish it on my own website, plus several other revisionist and pro-revisionist websites, even before writing a rebuttal.

The ball is in your court, Dr. Lindtner! I will not bother to react to any articles about other subjects you might write on your own website, or the website of the four clowns, or anywhere else, because my time is valuable. Just show that you are able to refute one of the above-mentioned revisionist books. Thrill me with your acumen, Lindnter!

Epilogue

Several people have inquired about the possible reasons of Lindtner's about-face. Of course I cannot read another person's mind, but in the case of Lindtner his motives seem to be pretty clear.

When I first met Dr. Christian Lindtner in November 1997, he already was a revisionist. He must still have been a revisionist nine years later, because in December 2006 he not only attended the Teheran conference, but even agreed to join a committee charged with the preparation of a second conference (which never materialized).

If the revisionist arguments are indeed worthless, and if revisionism is indeed "chutzpah," as Lindtner now argues, why did it take him a decade (or more) to become aware of this fact? After all, he must have known the Goebbels diaries and the alleged Himmler speeches from the very beginning of his revisionist activities, these sources being quoted so frequently in orthodox Holocaust literature that Lindtner cannot possibly pretend to have discovered them only recently. Likewise, an ample orthodox literature has existed for decades about the alleged huge slaughter of Jews in the East. For example "Die Truppe des Weltanschauungskrieges" by Helmut Krausnick and Hans-Heinrich Wilhelm dates from 1981, so why did Lindtner have to wait for the two Curilla books to "discover" that the Germans had "killed millions of Jews in the occupied Soviet territories"? If revisionism is "chutzpah," Dr. Christian Lindtner, who has been an active revisionist for at least a decade, must really have been a blockhead!

Ideologically, Lindtner was very close to National Socialism. As I learned from Siegfried Verbeke, he repeatedly took part in events organized by an outspoken admirer of Adolf Hitler, Florence Rost van Tonningen, the widow of Dutch National Socialist leader Meinoud Rost van Tonningen. During our discussions in Copenhagen, Lindtner made some comments about the Jews which were so unflattering that I will not repeat them here.

Why this sudden about-face? The solution of the "riddle" is obvious. In his Swedish-language book "Hemligheten om Kristus" (Hägglund Förlag, 2002), Lindtner claims to have discovered evidence that the figure of Jesus Christ is an invention of Buddhist missionaries. He knows that the media will not even discuss a thesis presented by a "Holocaust denier," so he desperately tries to get rid of this label in order to become kosher by revoking his revisionist and pro-National Socialist views.

This proves that Lindtner, while undoubtedly a very intelligent man, has a shabby character. He reminds me of British historian David Irving, who is also extremely intelligent, but totally immoral (cf. my article "David Irving and the Aktion Reinhardt Camps"[29]).

But the media will probably continue to ignore Lindtner. Many, if not most of his former revisionist and right-wing comrades now thoroughly despise him. While he has lost many of his old friends, the only new ones he has made are probably the clown Roberto Mühlenkamp and his cronies from the Forum "Holocaust Controversies". After all, the fact that a former professor of Sanscrit now writes on their website would greatly enhance the reputation of these individuals, if they have any to begin with.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 05:24:25 PM »
You were right, Jacob...

This proves that Lindtner, while undoubtedly a very intelligent man, has a shabby character. He reminds me of British historian David Irving, who is also extremely intelligent, but totally immoral (cf. my article "David Irving and the Aktion Reinhardt Camps"[29]).
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.