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Good and evil doesn't have a grey zone.  Killing and stealing is bad.  Violence is never "good" or necessary unless it is used to defend against killers and thieves. Indeed, that is the morality behind the "just war" principle as defined by international laws and treaties.

Yet, this simple concept of right and wrong gets muddled by differing ideas about religion, patriotism, economics and many other divisions.  The "just war" rule has crumbled under the ambitions of empires throughout history.  The American-led Anglo Saxon empire is no different.

This empire has been brutally conquering and colonizing territory since the fall of Rome.  However, it has only gained an American face in the last century.  The United States quickly emerged as the world's "superpower" primarily through its economic might.  For some time, many believed the U.S. to be a shining example of economic freedom for other nations to emulate.  Indeed, America was eager to promote "economic freedom" globally to open new markets for U.S.-based corporations.

When foreign leaders refused to allow these corporate interests into their country, those leaders were replaced through a variety of covert actions.  The form of government that would be installed did not matter to the empire makers so long as the corporate interests were served.  In most cases these nations simply surrendered to the seemingly unlimited power of the almighty dollar, thus camouflaging the traditional method of forceful empire building.

However, some nations, especially in the last two decades, remained stubborn and have refused to alter their banking systems while also shunning Western companies.  Despite the empire's best efforts to diplomatically bribe or sanction them into submission, they ultimately required an iron military fist to force their compliance.  Until recently, military action remained the last resort.  But now, preemptive military action seems to have become the preferred, and perhaps necessary, method to conquer the last resource-rich nations out of their grasp.

The empire's populations cheered this strategy out of fear of being attacked by these rogue nations who never attacked or even threatened to attack them.  In the fog of fear, killing and stealing became acceptable. In fact, detention without charges and even torture became acceptable in the former capital of freedom. America has determined that the means justifies the end -- which is more power.

As with all empires, these "means" have become increasingly violent and destructive in the face of resistance.  Yet, only a few more dominoes are left to knock over for America to complete a plan set in motion well before they were one of the colonies.  That is unless, of course, other world powers break ranks and attempt to stop the conquerors, which could lead to a large scale conflict.

Regardless, when the dust settles and moral history is written, America and her Western cohorts will likely be viewed as the most brutal empire in history. 

Here are ten reasons why this is already the case: Rumsfeld with Saddam Hussein 1983 

1. Support of Dictators: For all the happy talk of spreading Democracy and protecting human rights, the empire has repeatedly not only supported dictators, but in many cases overthrew popularly elected leaders and replaced them with puppet tyrants.  Examples range from secretly funding the Nazis, to installing the Shah in Iran, Pinochet in Chile, supporting Musharraf in Pakistan, and their everlasting love affair with the brutal Saudi royal family, to name a few.  Actions speak louder than words to those who can navigate the storm of propaganda with a moral compass set to recognize good from evil.  Dictators and freedom cannot coexist.

2. Preemptive Wars of Aggression:  It could be said that all wars are preemptive in nature because so many entities benefit from war.  Yet, even before America's latest crusades, they covertly and surgically attacked countries that never threatened them.  This allowed them to maintain the moral high road in the public's eye while constructing the foundation of their empire.  That was until the Bush Doctrine; the use of preemptive military action to confront possible threats was unofficially adopted to be the new foreign policy for combating terror.  Since then, America has become the violent aggressors, having officially invaded two countries -- Afghanistan and Iraq -- without legitimate provocation.  Violent aggressors have always been judged by history as evil. But it gets worse....

3. Torture: 'enhanced interrogation'.

Torture has never been acceptable by those promoting a high moral standing in the global community. Nazis and Japanese soldiers were convicted and executed for engaging in the exact same torture techniques that America has redefined as "I was just following orders," was not a justifiable excuse for such inhumane behavior, much like it wasn't a good enough defense for the low-ranking patsies who took the heat for the sinister Abu Ghraib torture scandal even though their actions were approved at the highest levels.  Can state-sanctioned torture of prisoners held without charges ever be viewed as anything less than brutal?

4. Suppression of Dissent: All tyrannical regimes throughout history have suppressed homeland dissent. As government oppression grows bolder at home and abroad, more citizens will naturally express outrage, resulting in even more oppressive controls.  This is happening in the United States through the all-seeing eye of the Department of Homeland Security with warrantless spying, arbitrary watch lists, citizen spy campaigns, and TSA molestation to travel anywhere.  Additionally, in an attempt to squash free speech, they arbitrarily seize websites and violently confront peaceful protesters.  Unfortunately, as awareness of the topics in this very article expands, the U.S. will likely become even bolder in their pursuit of stifling dissent.  In other words, the worst is yet to come, and history will judge the U.S. as not quite the beacon of freedom they have pretended to be.

5. Elimination of Habeas Corpus:  Say goodbye to the notion of being innocent until proven guilty, the right to face charges and your accuser, and the right to a free and fair trial.  Habeas corpus, considered the only humane path to "which a prisoner can be released from unlawful detention," has been eliminated for those vaguely labeled 'enemy combatants' of the empire.  As Guantanamo prisoners rot under such pretenses, prominent lawmakers in the empire propose the exact same lack of rights for American citizens if they're labeled an 'enemy belligerent'.  Similar to the Spanish Inquisition, now you're guilty until you're tortured to admit your guilt. 

Can it get more evil? Why yes, it can. Read on.

6. Assassinating Citizens:  That's right.  No judge, no jury, no conviction; just straight to execution. America has set another precedent in their tyrannical march toward empire when they openly assassinated an American citizen and government patsy, Anwar al-Awlaki, and his teenage son on the suspicion of terrorism.  Paul Craig Roberts laments "Now the US government not only can seize a US citizen and confine him in prison for the rest of his life without ever presenting evidence and obtaining a conviction, but also can have him shot down in the street or blown up by a drone."  Isn't this the reason America claims to be knocking off dictators around the world -- the deliberate killing of their own citizens?

But Awlaki was a bad apple because the intelligence community said so. What's most telling that America will continue this wickedness is that almost every US lawmaker turned a blind eye to the grotesque violation of Constitutional rights. Only Ron Paul said that assassinating an American citizen without charges is nothing less than an "impeachable offense".  Too bad most of the country cheered the Awlaki killing as a "victory" in the war on terror, indicating that it is now an acceptable tactic. Americans beware: you may be moved from a secret watch list to a secret kill list in this brutal empire.

 
7. Unauthorized Drone Wars: Unprovoked wars without authorization, accountability, or independent oversight only seem to be escalating; and with little resistance. The US Congress no longer votes to "declare war".  They simply give the Commander in Chief broad "authorization" to use force against specific nations. However, even that is not broad enough in the rapid pursuit of empire.  Now, joystick warriors directed by the CIA and Pentagon have targeted at least three countries with "unauthorized" military strikes; Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia.  Even worse, they waged a full-scale war for regime change and resource plundering in Libya without any authority inside the United States.  Under the NATO flag, which is 75% funded by the U.S., they flew over 9200 strike sorties in Libya to illegally topple Gaddafi.  Drunk with success, the bloodthirsty empire marches on to their next preemptive targets, Syria and Iran.  Quick morality check: unprovoked killing and stealing as a first resort is still wrong, right?

8. Use of Weapons of Mass Destruction: How ironic that the world's policeman for weapons of mass destruction is the only one to use them on a mass scale.  The United States is on record using chemical, biological and even nuclear weapons.  From the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII, to Monsanto's Agent Orange in Vietnam, to the depleted uranium used in Afghanistan and Iraq, America only condemns itself when speaking about the evils of WMDs. However, killers don't appear to care how the killing is accomplished, so long as it achieves their goals.  The real firecrackers will likely be brought out in a confrontation with Iran, or if China and Russia are lured into the conflict.  It won't really matter much what history says if the use of WMD escalates by either side, but the aggressors should rightly be blamed for the ensuing scorched earth, while the defenders against killers and thieves should be viewed as righteous.

9. World's Largest Drug Dealer:  The American empire is the largest drug dealer in the world?  Say it isn't so. Well, in addition to forcing legal drugs and genetically modified organisms on nations, usually under the cover of foreign aid, America also leads in the illegal drug trade.  In fact, many researchers reveal that the war on drugs is only utilized to control and monopolize the illicit drug trade.  The US government has been caught multiple times shipping in cocaine, colluding with certain cartels to control the industry, and now openly protects and transports opium from Afghanistan.  In fact, Global Research points out that in 2001, "according to UN figures, opium production had fallen to 185 tons. Immediately following the October 2001 US led invasion, production increased dramatically, regaining its historical levels."  This month, the U.N. announced that Afghanistan now provides 93% of the world's opium production; up 61% compared to 2010 to a whopping 5800 tonnes.  Although the empire tries to keep it secret, they can't hide the hypocrisy forever.



10. World Reserve Currency Prison:

Although using Weapons of Mass Debt is a non-violent form of expanding the empire, it's perhaps the most brutal and effective form of control. Requiring foreign nations to purchase oil and other imported commodities with US dollars wields immense power. Because all nations must acquire dollars to purchase critical resources, they quickly become indebted to the US Federal Reserve, their affiliate central banks, and the IMF.  Before long, the entire world is colonized by debt. It seems that only the nations that don't need or refuse credit from Western banking institutions are the ones in danger of facing the wrath of the imperial war machine. Incidentally, most oil-rich nations in the Middle East have outlawed usury (lending money with interest), making them impossible to conquer diplomatically through debt.  Controlling the world reserve currency means controlling the tap of life itself, which is a dangerous weapon in the hands of an aggressive empire.  Debt is the ultimate WMD the empire uses to enslave the world, which leaves dissidents with two clear choices: slavery or death.

Although this empire is infinitely more powerful than Rome was, it will likely suffer the same fate.  For every negative action the empire commits, there's an equal and opposite good reaction. And the goodness of humanity will always defeat tyranny when it goes too far.  However, an empire with so much to lose will go down swinging and slinging every weapon in its arsenal, thus putting the final stamp on their status as most brutal empire in history.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 12:45:57 PM »
Although this empire is infinitely more powerful than Rome was, it will likely suffer the same fate.  For every negative action the empire commits, there's an equal and opposite good reaction. And the goodness of humanity will always defeat tyranny when it goes too far.  However, an empire with so much to lose will go down swinging and slinging every weapon in its arsenal, thus putting the final stamp on their status as most brutal empire in history.[/i][/color]
rome fell?

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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 03:17:22 PM »
Rome fell?

regrouped

Regrouped, replaced or whatever, the sinister forces are the same.

"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2011, 06:37:18 AM »
"America Will Be Judged as the Most Brutal Empire in History" - I believe it will be, despite how brutal the Roman Empire seemed when I read about it.

It took hundreds of years for the Roman Empire to taper off into history...

How long is it gonna take for the American Empire to follow its path?  Perhaps longer than we think.  But it's definitely in decline.

Even if a false-flag event triggers hyperinflation and implodes what's left of the economy, the 'Empire' doesn't end there.  We have to continue to awaken others, withdraw our support, and change our lives...

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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2011, 08:11:06 AM »
"America Will Be Judged as the Most Brutal Empire in History" - I believe it will be, despite how brutal the Roman Empire seemed when I read about it.

It took hundreds of years for the Roman Empire to taper off into history...

How long is it gonna take for the American Empire to follow its path?  Perhaps longer than we think.  But it's definitely in decline.

Even if a false-flag event triggers hyperinflation and implodes what's left of the economy, the 'Empire' doesn't end there.  We have to continue to awaken others, withdraw our support, and change our lives...

Does anyone remember when we were actually paying down the debt?

The Roman Empire fell because it was bankrupted by its leaders; well, look at the red ink now! Budget deficits, trade deficits, a huge national debt that tripled when George W Bush took power and has now grown even faster under Obama.

Romans, and now Americans, have had the misfortune of being ruled by a Selfish Class. Rome fell because of it. Will America replay the Fall of Rome? It is just a matter of time...
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 06:58:28 PM »
More important is how the gov't treats it's citizens.  In Japan, I can walk down any street with an open beer in my hand and feel perfectly safe and unthreatened.  It's a small thing that we can't do here anymore.  We've lost our basic freedoms.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 10:54:58 PM »
How long is it gonna take for the American Empire to follow its path?  Perhaps longer than we think.  But it's definitely in decline.

Perhaps, but with computerized global banking, jet travel etc, it's easier for the oligarchs to transfer their power to other places.  OTOH the USA still can project significant military power though nothing like in the mid-20th C.

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 06:11:01 PM »
More important is how the gov't treats it's citizens.  In Japan, I can walk down any street with an open beer in my hand and feel perfectly safe and unthreatened.  It's a small thing that we can't do here anymore.  We've lost our basic freedoms.

I've never tried it, but I doubt if you can do it here, in Canada. However, you can walk around with a drink in your hands on the Strip, in Las Vegas. 
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2011, 04:50:51 AM »
I've never tried it, but I doubt if you can do it here, in Canada. However, you can walk around with a drink in your hands on the Strip, in Las Vegas.

Where jews benefit, things are not illegal.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2011, 08:26:50 AM »
Where jews benefit, things are not illegal.

Exactly... :)
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 05:42:36 PM »
Exactly... :)

Whenever you hear the term, "rule of law", jews benefit.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 05:58:52 PM »
Whenever you hear the term, "rule of law", jews benefit.

    A passively tolerant society says to its citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone.
    It stands neutral between different values.

    A genuinely liberal country does much more. It believes in certain values and actively promotes them.
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2011, 06:08:41 PM »
    A passively tolerant society says to its citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone.
    It stands neutral between different values.

    A genuinely liberal country does much more. It believes in certain values and actively promotes them.

Jews only promote what benefits them.  Where you see jews, you see productivity and parasitism.  This lasts about 25 years before the relationship deteriorates. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2011, 08:30:47 PM »
    A passively tolerant society says to its citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone.
    It stands neutral between different values.

    A genuinely liberal country does much more. It believes in certain values and actively promotes them.

your describing the 2-edged excalibur of the jews.

the conservative society makes so many laws that its impossible not to break them.

the liberal society is democratic communism.


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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2011, 09:27:05 PM »
Interesting video. Royalty is too inbred.

Well, there is no perfect system out there that I can think of. Perhaps a good dictator who truly believes in his country and who cares about the nation and the people. Tall order...   
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2012, 02:43:28 PM »
Dr Helen Caldicott - Fukushima Nuclear Disaster

The Final Epitaph for News Media





Whenever negativity is attributed to conspiracy theories, this one, I sincerely hope is a genuine one.

It is simply too awful to contemplate.
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2012, 04:07:27 PM »
I think we need to take all of these sky-is-falling warnings with a large grain of salt--but take reasonable precautions whenever appropriate.

Remember the huge uproar over the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and all the dire predictions of certain catastrophe that were all over the 'net? 

Remember Y2K (I fell for that one)?

Dr. Caldicott mentions Chernobyl.  I heard a brief mention of it on the radio yesterday;  they said that most people who moved away have stayed away, but all kinds of wildlife is thriving in that area--which means that plants are, too.  (Of course, we probably don't know much about birth defects or cancer among the critters--but the specieses are obviously surviving.)

1.  People don't know nearly as much as they think they do, so their predictions are notoriously unreliable.

2.  If most life forms are indeed destroyed by radiation, at least we can rejoice in the present that the planet can start over without any damjooz.

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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2012, 05:57:39 PM »
I think we need to take all of these sky-is-falling warnings with a large grain of salt--but take reasonable precautions whenever appropriate.

Remember the huge uproar over the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and all the dire predictions of certain catastrophe that were all over the 'net? 

Remember Y2K (I fell for that one)?

Dr. Caldicott mentions Chernobyl.  I heard a brief mention of it on the radio yesterday;  they said that most people who moved away have stayed away, but all kinds of wildlife is thriving in that area--which means that plants are, too.  (Of course, we probably don't know much about birth defects or cancer among the critters--but the specieses are obviously surviving.)

1.  People don't know nearly as much as they think they do, so their predictions are notoriously unreliable.

2.  If most life forms are indeed destroyed by radiation, at least we can rejoice in the present that the planet can start over without any damjooz.

I remember the panic about Y2K well. And yes, you are correct (good memory).



The effects of the Chernobyl catastrophe are still being felt today—whole towns lie abandoned, and cancer rates in people living close to the affected areas are abnormally high.

As you mentioned, wildlife and plants are thriving. 

National Geographic: Plants and trees have sprung back to life, and rare species, such as lynx, Przewalski's horses, and eagle owls, are thriving where most humans fear to tread.   

Mutation isn't the only adverse effect of the radiation. Working in the Red Forest area, James Morris, a USC biologist, has observed some trees with very strange twisted shapes.

More here: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/04/0426_060426_chernobyl_2.html



How does Fukushima differ from Chernobyl?

Japanese authorities have raised the severity rating of the nuclear crisis at the damaged Fukushima Daiichi power plant to the highest level, seven.

The decision reflects the ongoing release of radiation, rather than a sudden deterioration. Level seven previously only applied to the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, where 10 times as much radiation was emitted.

But most experts agree the two nuclear incidents are very different. Explore the table below to find out how they compare.

Radiation released:

Fukushima Daiichi 370,000 terabecquerels* (as of 12 April)
Chernobyl .......... 5.2 mill  terabecquerels*

Source: Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, Japanese authorities, UNSCEAR.

*Becquerels are a measurement of radiation.

Sources: National Geographic http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/04/0426_060426_chernobyl_2.html

BBC News http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13050228
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2012, 06:40:32 PM »
I think we need to take all of these sky-is-falling warnings with a large grain of salt--but take reasonable precautions whenever appropriate.


Interesting how the nuke haters don't mention that people live in Nagasaki & Hiroshima.