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Simply put, when your god no longer serves you, you need to look for another god.

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Then how to explain the constant phenomenon of prison religion? 

People will gravitate to something when control is taken away from their lives.  You're down, about to give up, somebody says, why don't you just turn it over all to god/jesus/allah/whatever.  It's a nothing to loose deal, and when people do, they feel a weight lifted from their shoulders.  But this is more just human psychology.  Nothing real changes.
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2011, 12:09:10 AM »
The world in general and many who deem themself "Christian" think the Great Whore and her children constitute Jesus's Church.   They don't

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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2011, 06:25:48 PM »
Does anyone here believe in ARMAGEDDON?



If so - WHY?

Are our international warmongers following the Bible B.S.?
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2011, 06:57:20 PM »
Does anyone here believe in ARMAGEDDON?
It's not entirely irrational to believe this.  I believe the mayans calendar must have a basic in reality, and thus 2012 could be the end of a some real cycle.   I'm actually enthusiastic about it, but I have no great expectations.  Things tend to end in a fizzle or thud rather than bang.
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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2011, 05:30:55 PM »
Joo lies: even Wiki admits to the important developments in Euro medieval technology:

After giving Christianity full credit for the Dark Ages you think it should also get credit recovery from the Christian disaster?
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2011, 06:08:16 PM »
Eyebelieve is correct, christanity took the european culture from scantily clad tribal african style barbarism to the height of civilization. now these jews want to reverse it.

The ignorance is amazing. In fact it is so great one has to consider it to be deliberate dissemination of lies. Europe was quite a civilized as ancient Greece and Rome simply not as culturally advanced. Greece spread its advanced to the east by itself. Rome conquered Greece and spread its own culture and that of Greece to Northern and Western Europe except for the lands of the Goths.

Then came Christianity which shut down all non-christian schools and in fact celebrated the destruction of the last of the Platonic schools. All forms of art were reduced from Greek levels to that crude African level you seem to abhor. A quick google of William Wallace should get a link to the one surviving stone carving of him. Not even the oldest of ancient Greek statues is so primitive. It is truly at the African level.

Greek learning and Roman engineering had to be rediscovered after centuries of suppression by Christianity.

I could go on for another thousand words just to cover the broad issues of what Christianity wantonly destroyed. But lets go to the fall of the Roman empire which was caused by the invasion of the invasions of the CHRISTIAN Goths. Why were they in conflict? Seems they were Arian Christians, the wrong kind of Christian. Christian enthusiasm for bloodshed over the most trivial differences is the most obvious aspect of Christianity.

Christianity has contributed nothing to the world. Not to single out Christianity as religions in general are notable for the absence of contribution to society. EVERY field to which Christian apologists can point to as a contribution can also be shown to have languished sterile until freed from Christian influence. For centuries the only plays permitted were morality plays. Name one. After it was possible to create other kinds of plays there was Shakespeare.

Anyone who disagrees is free to post physical evidence to the contrary. I know of only one thing, the flying buttress for architecture.
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« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2011, 06:10:12 PM »
Christianity only coopted the existing feudal political structures.  Christianity otherwise did a lot more harm than good, with the oppression and crusade wars.  The good came from the folk themselves and their natural abilities.

Christianity brought down the empire causing the retreat to the primitive feudal system.
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2011, 06:17:02 PM »
Christianity brought down the empire causing the retreat to the primitive feudal system.

Sure.

Pagan Europe was so highly advanced...
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2011, 06:25:10 PM »
After giving Christianity full credit for the Dark Ages you think it should also get credit recovery from the Christian disaster?

I'm not an apologist, I just think it's oversimplifying to put things in such absolute terms.  Religion is always manipulated for political purposes.

The Secrets Known Only to the Inner Elites describes how Christianity was manipulated for evil purposes while at other times Christian humanist "city builders" strove to overcome the damage.

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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2011, 06:28:40 PM »
Sure.

Pagan Europe was so highly advanced...

Were they safer and happier as pagans?  That's the decider.
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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2011, 06:31:03 PM »
After giving Christianity full credit for the Dark Ages you think it should also get credit recovery from the Christian disaster?

The dark ages were also about burning historical records and replacing them with the jew bible.
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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2011, 06:56:16 PM »
Church gets blamed for the Dark Ages but somehow is denied credit for the Renaissance which the MSM implies was a result of closet atheists.  Even today the Church does a better job at education than the public schools despite the Joo attacks resulting in lower church attendance & contributions.  Despite the huge influence of the Church in old Europe, I feel it's too selective to place all blame for stagnation or OTOH all praise for progress.  It was only one part of the picture.

However there is no disputing the fact that the Christian Church tried to suppress most of the accomplishments of the Renaissance. The only things which can be raised as support of the Renaissance by Christians are those who had in fact rejected essentially all of its moral teachings. That includes all the rich and influential starting with the Pope.

As to the imaginary accomplishments of Catholic schools, REQUIRE them to educate the entire social spectrum of children and watch their reputation vanish. Since at least the 1950s Catholic high schools have required tuition from the parents which obviously cannot be afforded by the poor. The output of Catholic schools exactly correlates with the input.

If you go to an area where the inputs are equal such as colleges and universities the performance of the Catholic ones does not differ from the spectrum of non-catholic ones.
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2011, 07:00:38 PM »
Then how to explain the constant phenomenon of prison religion?

It is a positive a parole hearings. The façade has to be maintained during probation.
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2011, 07:03:36 PM »
It's not entirely irrational to believe this.  I believe the mayans calendar must have a basic in reality, and thus 2012 could be the end of a some real cycle.   I'm actually enthusiastic about it, but I have no great expectations.  Things tend to end in a fizzle or thud rather than bang.

If the Mayans had used a bigger rock the end would not be so soon.
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2011, 07:04:53 PM »
Sure.

Pagan Europe was so highly advanced...

Anyone who believes Jews killed off half of Europe with a plague has no reason to expect to be taken seriously by anyone at any time for any reason.
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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2011, 07:16:41 PM »
I'm not an apologist, I just think it's oversimplifying to put things in such absolute terms.  Religion is always manipulated for political purposes.

The Secrets Known Only to the Inner Elites describes how Christianity was manipulated for evil purposes while at other times Christian humanist "city builders" strove to overcome the damage.

Christianity became established by Constantine as a political movement. His successor, Julian, was murdered by his own Christian mother because he was reversing the political accomplishments of the Christians. Bloodshed in the name of Christ is such a good thing.
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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2011, 07:20:23 PM »
The dark ages were also about burning historical records and replacing them with the jew bible.

While I agree Christianity is a sect of Judaism with a different take on the same cult god I have to ask you for the proper references for you burning and replacing claim.
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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2011, 11:37:06 PM »
However there is no disputing the fact that the Christian Church tried to suppress most of the accomplishments of the Renaissance. The only things which can be raised as support of the Renaissance by Christians are those who had in fact rejected essentially all of its moral teachings. That includes all the rich and influential starting with the Pope.

As to the imaginary accomplishments of Catholic schools, REQUIRE them to educate the entire social spectrum of children and watch their reputation vanish. Since at least the 1950s Catholic high schools have required tuition from the parents which obviously cannot be afforded by the poor. The output of Catholic schools exactly correlates with the input.

If you go to an area where the inputs are equal such as colleges and universities the performance of the Catholic ones does not differ from the spectrum of non-catholic ones.

Chicken & egg?  Many ghetto parents (or even middle-class) feel Catholic schools are superior at least to isolate kids from bad influence.  Catholic schools remain the only major alternative to dumbed-down wild public schools.

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« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2011, 12:18:40 AM »

Does anyone here believe in ARMAGEDDON?      If so - WHY?   ......   

I'm confident Armageddon/2nd coming will occur as per Rev 19,...... however, 

Armageddon takes place years after another major prophecied war. 

Namely after the invasion of Israel predicted by Ezekiel 38-39 and Zechariah 12-14.   

CONVERGENCE: 
USA has Muslim supportive POTUS & State Dept.
Nations around Israel recently becoming more hard line Islamic.
September U.N.  recognizes Palestinian state. 
Limited Mid East war erupts.
USA financial house of cards falls.   USA plunged into violent chaos.
Downfall of USA = “green light” for invasion of Israel.
UN authorizes  invasion of Israel.   
Ezekiel 38-39 comes to pass.   

Then world amazing reappearance of the supreme “beast”
[who has had “terrible,  fatal appearing head wound”]
of Rev 13 comes to pass.