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« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2011, 10:45:31 AM »
I will not understand why they cannot counter the lies, invective and hate being launched against them, in this PR battle, or wish to.

Some of us do.

A few websites, a few well spoken speakers just to counter Radio/Tv Zioganda is all it would take.

We have websites all over.  And we have very articulate speakers, some of whom actually know Islam and are quite able to counter the propaganda.  That's why they don't get air time or press coverage.

And it would be a golden opportunity to tell the world WHO and what is really behind the evil in the world.

When most people discover who is promoting oppression, they join the oppressors, knowingly or otherwise.  Muslims don't fight The Fire, we turn away from it.

Suppose I was going around telling everyone that Walt Disney is a dangerous scumbag with nothing good to his name.  Would you really want to know those who blindly believed me without attempting to see for themselves?  Are you of those who think that people should simply accept whatever you say, without thinking about it any further?

The zionists bought The Fire three thousand years ago.  They own it, it owns them.  They can have it, we're not interested.
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« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2011, 10:47:30 PM »
Suppose I was going around telling everyone that Walt Disney is a dangerous scumbag with nothing good to his name.  Would you really want to know those who blindly believed me without attempting to see for themselves?  Are you of those who think that people should simply accept whatever you say, without thinking about it any further?

It's far more subtle than that... a small bite here, a sting there, a cut at every opportunity...
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« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2012, 09:20:45 AM »
It's far more subtle than that... a small bite here, a sting there, a cut at every opportunity...

And these build on the credible. For example, someone gets abused or a raw deal from his (say) Pakistani landlord, he reads in a tabloid newspaper about a gang of thugs in Manchester who have been raping and grooming girls for prostitution but the tabloid insists that they are "Muslims" who did it, another article gives respectability to this because it gives page one prominence to a politician having launched into a diatribe against Muslim men and honour killings or forced marriages, and above the fold talks about Iran (or Saudi Arabia) and the stoning of a woman for adultery. This drip feed undermines what Gilad Atzmon wrote up as the "Kebab Philosophy". And so the bloke with the raw deal assumes that all Muslims are like that, and that is why his Pakistani landlord treated him the way he did.

The surprising thing is, in the UK at least, that the majority of the population hasn't bought into this.

For example, when Jack Straw (Labour Party former Home Secretary) made some stupid comment about a woman who turned up at his constituency surgery wearing a faceveil and the whole black fig (including gloves) and the media launched into a "Ban the Burka!" frenzy a TV station sent a journo down to London's East End to interview the "taxi-driver class".

The responses they got by and large didn't fit what they wanted to hear: "it's a free country. They can wear what they like", "it's nothing to do with me. Why shouldn't they", "if some women want to wear a bikini why should I care if other women want to wear a burka?" were three typical ones.

At the end of July 2011, a UK organisation called Spinwatch produced a Report on Islamophobia in the UK - coincidentally, I think, it came out at about the same time as a similar Report in the USA. The particularly interesting things about the UK Report were that the bulk of the UK Islamophobia was being fed by two think tanks loosely associated with the two major political parties promoting the outpourings of Jihad Watch etc, and subvented by five funders with heavy Israeli involvements. Which obviously raises the question "in whose interest is Islamophobia being stoked?".
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« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2012, 01:52:38 AM »
The surprising thing is, in the UK at least, that the majority of the population hasn't bought into this.

Good analysis.  But the majority of Americans aren't buying into it, either ~ and this should come as no surprise.

Hawwaz would enjoy your commentary.
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« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2012, 02:02:29 AM »
Thanks, Hajj.  8)
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« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2012, 07:16:23 AM »
I notice this propaganda strategy is also used on 'our side' by some who would brand Christianity as a 'Jewish creation' and then go on to supposedly back their argument by citing the 'Christian-Zionist' phenomena...Real Christians oppose any aggressive war, or war to steal resources, but get a bad name because of so-called 'Zio-Christians' or 'Evangelicals'.  >:(

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« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2012, 09:39:47 AM »
I notice this propaganda strategy is also used on 'our side' by some who would brand Christianity as a 'Jewish creation' and then go on to supposedly back their argument by citing the 'Christian-Zionist' phenomena...Real Christians oppose any aggressive war, or war to steal resources, but get a bad name because of so-called 'Zio-Christians' or 'Evangelicals'.  >:(

The best counter to this myth is that Christianity existed before the Khazars converted to Jew-duh-ism.

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« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2012, 01:46:22 PM »
Which obviously raises the question "in whose interest is Islamophobia being stoked?".

They used the same tactics in WWII... the Huns are coming, will all the gory details. They have it down pat and the uneducated (off-line folks) fall for it.

Nice to see you again Dean.  :)

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« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2012, 01:53:43 PM »
Good analysis.  But the majority of Americans aren't buying into it, either ~ and this should come as no surprise.

Hawwaz would enjoy your commentary.

Hi WRS, nice to see you too. I think America's Press is a little freer than ours up here, in blue-sky country, Canuckistan.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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« Reply #69 on: February 04, 2012, 02:09:36 AM »
...Nice to see you again Dean.  :)

You too, Su  8)
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« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2012, 03:08:05 AM »
The best counter to this myth is that Christianity existed before the Khazars converted to Jew-duh-ism.

It's actually the weakest counter to the 'myth'.

What religion did the khazars convert to? Who converted them? Was it a pure religion before the Khazars? Who were the first christians? Were they not jews? What religions did europeans practice before christianity? What was the end result of christianity on Rome? What religion was eventually forced on the so called barbarians?

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« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2012, 06:20:44 AM »
the 'Christian-Zionist' phenomena...Real Christians oppose any aggressive war, or war to steal resources, but get a bad name because of so-called 'Zio-Christians' or 'Evangelicals'.

I agree. The (Zio)Judeo-Christian propaganda bs has made Real Christians very hard to find.
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« Reply #72 on: February 05, 2012, 02:23:16 PM »
It's actually the weakest counter to the 'myth'.

What religion did the khazars convert to? Who converted them? Was it a pure religion before the Khazars? Who were the first christians? Were they not jews? What religions did europeans practice before christianity? What was the end result of christianity on Rome? What religion was eventually forced on the so called barbarians?

Ashkenazi Jews, of all ppl, are the ones perpetuating the myth that "Jews 'gave' Christians their religion."  Considering the ancestors of the Ashkenazim were phallic worshippers, at least according to Benjamin H. Freedman, they didn't give anybody squat.

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« Reply #73 on: May 12, 2012, 11:07:05 PM »
What a load of NONSENSE!

Re: "I founded the multi-faith Cordoba Initiative"

Funded by the Saudis.

Re: "Islam was in America even before there was a United States."

So what? The United States and the previous European settlements that came together to form the USA were all culturally (and often legally) Christian, and were Christian societies.

Is this joker in favour of Christian immigration to Saudi Arabia, etc.?

Re: "Muslims didn’t peaceably emigrate — slave-traders brought them here."

A lie. Muslims ran the majority of the African and Middle East slave-trade, and Kikes and Muslims ran much or most of the trans-Atlantic slave-trade.

Re: "Historians estimate that up to 30 percent of enslaved blacks were Muslims."

What "Historians"? The same ones who sell the HoLOLoco$t?

Re: "West African prince Abdul Rahman, freed by President John Quincy Adams in 1828 after 40 years in captivity, was only one of many African Muslims kidnapped and sold into servitude in the New World."

Prince of what? Some village of monkeys? Kidnapped by whom? By Muslims. And how many slaves did he have? Did he go back to Africa and get more slaves?

Re: "Muslims fought to preserve American independence"

Now I've heard everything...

Re: "More than a century later, thousands of African Americans, including Cassius Clay and Malcolm Little, converted to Islam."

So what? Muhammud Ali was an arrogant moron. Malcolm X was murdered by other "Black Muslims".

How come he didn't mention the Muslim rapist Mike Tyson or the serial-killer John Muhammad?

What difference does people becoming Muslim make to the essential nature of Islam?

Re: "If you wear the uniform of the United States and are willing to die for this country, can you be really be considered a foreigner?"

Yes, you can, and many are. There are many foreigners in the US military, and they are not automatically entitled to citizenship. Also there are many Kike and Muslim and other traitors in the US military and other organs of The Regime.

Re: "The American Muslim community is the most diverse Muslim community in the world."

So what? More division. Also, many of them hate each other and engage in inter-tribal and gang warfare.

Re: "With above-average median household incomes, they are also an indispensable part of the U.S. economy. Sixty-six percent of American Muslim households earn more than $50,000 per year — more than the average U.S. household."

Then how come they're always bitching like Kikes about their woeful status in the US?

Re: "Muslim American women are not only more educated than Muslim women in Western Europe, but are also more educated than the average American. U.S. Muslim women report incomes closer to their male counterparts than American women of any other religion. They are at the helm of many key religious and civic organizations, such as the Arab-American Family Support Center, Azizah magazine, Karamah, Turning Point, the Islamic Networks Group and the American Society for Muslim Advancement."

Then (a) they are not typical Muslimas, and (b) why do they bitch so much?

Re: "Muslim women are leading the struggle for change through their scholarship, civic engagement, education, advocacy and activism in the United States and across the world."

With Kike and Saudi funding.

Re: "In a country in the grip of Islamophobia — where Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) can convene hearings on the radicalization of American Muslims"

Islamophobia is a kike-word and kike-concept. It was coined by The Kike Rose (British "Intelligence", Mossad, and Kike-Media), at the Kike's Runnymede Trust. It was and is designed to pathologize normal White and Christian concern about hordes of Muslims being imported to Britain and other nations.

Re: "For centuries, most Islamic scholars around the world have agreed that Muslims must follow the laws of the land in which they live."

Complete rubbish. Muslims did not only follow the laws of most of the places they went, they even invaded, overthrew, enslaved, raped and slaughtered the peoples of Syria, Egypt, all of North Africa, Persia, India, Afghanistan, Constantinople, Iberia, Sicily, Serbia, Bulgaria, etc.

Re: "The prophet [sic] Muhammad...sent some of his followers to be protected by the Christian king of Abyssinia, where they co-existed peacefully."

Garbage. They ran away from Arabia, to escape the Arabs who were sick of their gangsterism. They were refugees in Abyssinia. They were only a small number of people and were in no position to take over anything.

Muslims returned centuries later, to help re-install the Kike tyranny over Abyssinia, after the Habesha ("Abyssinians") finally managed to overthrow Judi and the Kike regime that was oppressing them.

Re: "the U.S. Constitution is in line with the objectives and ideals of sharia"

The U.S. Constitution means nothing to me.

Only a moron or a liar would say that the U.S. Constitution is in line with Sharia.

Re: "In his 1776 publication “Thoughts on Government,” John Adams praised Muhammad as a “sober inquirer after truth.” And the Supreme Court building contains a likeness of the prophet, whose vision of justice is cited as an important precedent to the U.S. Constitution."

That helps explain why the U.S.A. sucks big time.
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