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* Holocaust survivor self-mythologizing
« on: November 08, 2010, 03:41:55 PM »
A new book on Adolf Hitler has been published
(he seems to have as many would-be biographers as Abe Lincoln).



by Michael Hoffman  ~  Sunday, November 07, 2010

source: http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2010/11/holocaust-survivor-self-mythologizing.html

It is titled `Hitler`s First War` by Thomas Weber and it is not the typical lurid screed. It`s actually impressive, in certain respects. It concerns both the reality of Hitler`s World War I military service and how that service was distorted by propaganda later. The author and his publisher (Oxford University) enjoy sneering at Hitler`s own account of his actions during World War I (in "Mein Kampf" and elsewhere) as `self-mythologizing.`

Hitler is of course easy to attack and critique. It takes no courage to go after Der Fuhrer anymore than it does to assail Muslims.  Both are perennial and popular targets in American media and politics. Consequently, the sneer at Hitler for "self-mythologizing," while perhaps accurate in many respects, is not particularly impressive.

I doubt that either Thomas Weber or Ann Farmer, a reporter for the New York Times, would ever ascribe that epithet to a saintly `Holocaust survivor.` Even  if the charge were true, it would take considerable audacity to make it in public and risk one`s career.

Like many World War II revisionists, this writer collects "Holocaust Survivor" Tall Tales. I have a thick file of fairy tales and tales of miracles and relics invented by the these media-canonized saints, including one about the Seven Dwarves of Auschwitz! I have another in which `Trudy, the Wonder Child of the Camps` was made to clean the entire kitchen floor of Auschwitz with her tongue! The false witness these characters spew about the Germans knows no limit `” and they can always find a gullible New York Times scribe to report their tales to the world without the least tinge of skepticism.

The most devastating observation on the credibility of these yarn-spinners was made by a Judaic sociologist sixty years ago:  "...most of the memoirs and reports [of 'Holocaust survivors'] are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks...`
--Samuel Gringauz, "Jewish Social Studies" (New York), January 1950, Vol. 12, p. 65.

Just for fun, I wish to share with you the latest entry in my file. It`s about a famous and wealthy Judaic tailor now working in Brooklyn, who makes suits for presidents and movie stars, and whose life was saved in Auschwitz by the fact that he regularly wore an SS officer`s shirt around the camp!



The Magic Shirt

`He looked like a somebody"


A Meticulous Tailor, Called Upon by Designers and Politicians Alike
by Ann Farmer | New York Times | Nov. 6, 2010 [p. A18]

...for more than 60 years, Martin Greenfield has been an influential face of men's fashion in New York City...Mr. Greenfield, 82, is still old-school in his devotion to the labor-intensive, exacting and vanishing art of making tailored garments by hand...(He works) on the second floor of the factory in East Williamsburg, Brooklyn, where he and his two sons oversee 117 workers...

Mr. Greenfield first grasped the importance of appearances while trying to survive the Holocaust. When he was 14, he and his father, mother, two sisters and a brother were taken from their home in Pavlova, in what was then Czechoslovakia, and later delivered to Auschwitz.

He was assigned to wash clothes in the camp's alteration shop, and one day he accidentally ripped an SS officer's shirt, an affront for which he was beaten. The officer threw the shirt at Mr. Greenfield, who mended it and started wearing it instead of the uniforms the other prisoners wore. From then on, he said, the guards and prisoners began treating him with respect.

"He looked like a somebody," said Jay Greenfield, 52, Mr. Greenfield's oldest son and the executive vice president of the company, Martin Greenfield Clothiers, explaining that his father attributes his survival to that shirt.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: * Holocaust survivor self-mythologizing
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2010, 03:44:53 PM »
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Like many World War II revisionists, this writer collects "Holocaust Survivor" Tall Tales. I have a thick file of fairy tales and tales of miracles and relics invented by the these media-canonized saints, including one about the Seven Dwarves of Auschwitz!

I have another in which `Trudy, the Wonder Child of the Camps` was made to clean the entire kitchen floor of Auschwitz with her tongue! The false witness these characters spew about the Germans knows no limit `” and they can always find a gullible New York Times scribe to report their tales to the world without the least tinge of skepticism.

The most devastating observation on the credibility of these yarn-spinners was made by a Judaic sociologist sixty years ago:  "...most of the memoirs and reports [of 'Holocaust survivors'] are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks...`
--Samuel Gringauz, "Jewish Social Studies" (New York), January 1950, Vol. 12, p. 65.'




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Re: * Holocaust survivor self-mythologizing
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2010, 05:58:10 PM »

I will delete this after you see it.  Walt, here I can show you what you were asking me about in your PM.

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Like many World War II revisionists, this writer collects "Holocaust Survivor" Tall Tales. I have a thick file of fairy tales and tales of miracles and relics invented by the these media-canonized saints, including one about the Seven Dwarves of Auschwitz!

Your two-cents here.

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I have another in which `Trudy, the Wonder Child of the Camps` was made to clean the entire kitchen floor of Auschwitz with her tongue! The false witness these characters spew about the Germans knows no limit `” and they can always find a gullible New York Times scribe to report their tales to the world without the least tinge of skepticism.

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The most devastating observation on the credibility of these yarn-spinners was made by a Judaic sociologist sixty years ago:  "...most of the memoirs and reports [of 'Holocaust survivors'] are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks...`
--Samuel Gringauz, "Jewish Social Studies" (New York), January 1950, Vol. 12, p. 65.'

And the same here. OK? Done!

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As you can see above, quoting the name is important. Now click, as if to quote, this way you can see what I did.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2010, 06:05:34 PM by sushigirl »
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: * Holocaust survivor self-mythologizing
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2010, 07:08:02 PM »

It is titled `Hitler`s First War` by Thomas Weber and it is not the typical lurid screed. It`s actually impressive, in certain respects. It concerns both the reality of Hitler`s World War I military service and how that service was distorted by propaganda later. The author and his publisher (Oxford University) enjoy sneering at Hitler`s own account of his actions during World War I (in "Mein Kampf" and elsewhere) as `self-mythologizing.`



I read a couple of reviews on the book, it does seem rather "lurid".  Allegations of Hitler joining the Bavarian Soviet for one.  It makes hay over the fact that Hitler wasn't promoted over corporal...what about the "Peter Principle"?  Hitler always admitted that he was a quiet loner, so it's not surprising that he wasn't wildly popular among the regiment as the book claims.  Nonetheless maybe an FPer will read the book & post a report?  Local library doesn't have it yet, kind of hard to make space with something like 20 books about the Kabbalah crowding the shelves!   >:(

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Re: * Holocaust survivor self-mythologizing
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 07:23:14 PM »
I read a couple of reviews on the book, it does seem rather "lurid".  Allegations of Hitler joining the Bavarian Soviet for one.  It makes hay over the fact that Hitler wasn't promoted over corporal...what about the "Peter Principle"?  Hitler always admitted that he was a quiet loner, so it's not surprising that he wasn't wildly popular among the regiment as the book claims.  Nonetheless maybe an FPer will read the book & post a report?  Local library doesn't have it yet, kind of hard to make space with something like 20 books about the Kabbalah crowding the shelves!   >:(

I have not seen the book, fat chance here, so I cannot comment .
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.