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* Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« on: May 20, 2010, 09:19:44 AM »

THE ZIONIST CONTROLLED WESTERN MEDIA has been waging 
a savage campaign against Vladimir Putin for the last 8 years.




By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2008-2010

Yet the Zionist controlled media had nothing but praise for Boris Yeltsin who misgoverned Russia and appointed Jewish oligarchs and their Harvard Jewish friends as his `economic advisors` who looted  Russia under the cover of the so called `privatizing` of Russia`s industries.

Upon Putin`s ascendancy to the presidency of Russia, Time Magazine acknowledged that Putin was secretly baptized by his mother into the Russian Orthodox faith when he was born in 1952.

But even Putin`s own admission to being baptized during Russia`s Soviet era was glossed over by Time Magazine.

Instead of applauding Putin for his open Christian confession, the Jewish owned Time Magazine, (the Bronfman family owns the Time-Warner conglomerate), smeared Putin as a `colorless, ordinary man with prying eyes and expressionless face, a KGB spy who built his career on being a nonentity.`

But Putin`s `nonentity` status has gone by the wayside. Today, Vladimir Putin stands tall as a giant - not only on the world`s political and economic scene, but in the spiritual realm as well. In his own words during an Easter Service at Christ The Saviour Cathedral on April 27 2008, Putin assured the Russian people saying:

`” `This holiday shows just how important national traditions and spiritual values are for our people. The state will continue to provide all possible support to the Church aimed at the enlightenment and moral education of Russian citizens.` `”

In May of 2007, the Russian Orthodox Church in Russia united with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, (ROCOR), which had been estranged from the Mother Church ever since the Bolshevik Revolution. (I, Brother Nathanael, attend a ROCOR church).

The Russian hierarch, Metropolitan Kirill, head of External Church Relations, is convinced, as thousands of Orthodox Christians, (myself included), that Vladimir Putin is a deeply believing Christian man.



A SYMPHONY BETWEEN CHURCH & STATE

IN ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN HISTORY & TRADITION a `symphony` between Church & State has been the ideal.

This is something that the secular West cannot comprehend. In contrast with the West, Orthodox civilization developed its own model of Church & State relations. This model was called a `symphony` by Byzantine Emperor Justinian in his 6th Century Legal Code.

Putin, in beneficent Orthodox Tsar-like manner, often makes appearances with the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Alexy II. In so doing, Putin affirms the Church`s political-religious tradition of a symphony between Church & State. On November 18 2007, Putin met with Alexy II and other hierarchs of the Church in St Alexander`s Chapel in the Kremlin. At this meeting Putin promised:

`” `Orthodoxy has always played a special role in shaping our statehood, our culture, our morals. One should not completely draw a line between the culture and the Church. Of course, in our country the Church is separate from the State. But in the soul and the history of our people it`s all together. It always has been and always will be.` `” Here.

In another political/religious affirmation of Russia`s `symphony` between Church & State, Putin appeared with Alexy II at a Kremlin meeting in November of 2007. At this meeting, Putin was photographed with Alexy II who called for `tighter controls on the content of television and radio broadcasts` saying they were promoting `vicious behavior.`

In Russia, everyone understands the meaning of Putin`s photographs with others - the above photograph included. It translates into Putin`s agreement with those personages. And Putin surely is in `agreement` with Patriarch Alexy II in building a healthy society based on Church tradition - just as he has promised so many times.



PUTIN AS A CHRISTIAN STATESMAN

HARPING ON THE ISSUE OF `DEMOCRACY`   in Putin`s Russia is a continual drone of the Zionist controlled West. Recently, presidential candidate John McCain joined in on the mantra calling for Russia`s exclusion from the G-8. Putin`s rebuff  to McCain through a top ambassador was telling McCain to `forego your threats until after you`re elected.`

And in Christian statesmanship-like style, Putin recently warned the West to stop giving Russia blanket lectures on democracy:

`” `Rather than talking about democracy in Russia let the West be specific about the issues that matter. If they are worried about nuclear programmes in Iran, let`s talk about Iran together. If they want us to resolve Kosovo, let`s talk Kosovo. We will gladly participate in any debate with our partners.` `” Here.

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin is not one to throw his words to the wind. On May 9 2008 Putin pledged to transform Russia into a financial world leader, saying: `I will work to make Russia one of the main financial centers in the world.`

Thus if money is what makes the world go `round, Putin`s pledge to make Russia a center of world finance could very likely give the Zionist international bankers some good healthy competition. And for us all `” an alternative to the Zionist world wide agenda`¦

"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: * Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 09:43:53 AM »
Oh, another  Nathanael "Borat" Kapner,  Pootie Poot sex-up.

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Re: * Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2010, 10:06:04 AM »
Kapner has been spot on.
I dont discount his info.
He renounced Jewry for Christianity and a chaste life.


The Catholic Church learned later that the only way to combat infiltrators was make them vow to poverty.
Hence the Franciscans and Domincans.
They were the ones that carried out the Inquisition.


Kapner could be alot of things.  Poor isnt one of them, for a man of his choosing. For that, I believe he is honest.
Discredit him all you like, but not his message.


Far as Putin goes, one of two things.
Either He is crazy like a fox and a master chess player,  or  he's one of them....
I remain optimistic.
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Re: * Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2010, 10:10:06 AM »

Putin VS Jews Of The New World Order




JEWS FEAR STRONG  Christian leaders.  Russia`s President Vladimir Putin is an Orthodox Christian. Putin has publicly stated that he is a Christian `” his continual Church appearances are proof of it. Recently the BBC published a major article complete with pictures of Vladimir Putin`s Orthodox Christian affiliations here  and here.

Because the Jews fear Vladimir Putin they are now publishing anti-Putin articles in their Jewish-controlled Press in order to bias public opinion against him such as in today`s Wall Street Journal article, `The Perils Of Putinism` here.

Kosovo is in the news these days as the Jews of The New World Order HERE pursue their One World Government agenda in the break up of the Orthodox Christian Serbian-Bloc in the Balkans. But the NWO Jews have a foe in President Vladimir Putin who in a recent Der Spiegel Interview Here said, ``The issue of Kosovo has immense importance to us.`

During Putin`s recent meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, he stated that he would not allow an independent Kosovo separated from Serbia:

`” `Russia believes it is unacceptable that a decision on the status of Kosovo be imposed from the outside. A long-term resolution can be achieved only if it is acceptable both to Belgrade and to PriÅ¡tina. Europe does not have an interest in one of the sides, that is, Belgrade, having to accept a decision that is humiliating for the Serbian people.` `”



NWO JEWS AND THEIR HATRED OF CHRISTIAN SERBIA

The Trilateral Commission, The Council on Foreign Relations, and The Bilderberg Group, all have a lot in common - Jewish membership. These 3 Groups also share a hatred of nations that oppose their `multiculturalism` which translates into `mult-religions` with no monolithic  opposition against them. Serbia is an Orthodox Christian nation. The Jews want to destroy the Orthodox Christian nation of Serbia because it stands in their way of multi-cultural globalization where no culture, that is, religion, dominates.

Here are the Christian-hating Jews `” all interconnected:

* Dianne Feinstein, Senator; Trilateral Commission
* Madelaine Albright (Miriam Korbel); Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations
* Richard C. Holbrooke (Richard Moos); Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group
* Henry Kissinger; Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group
* Alan Greenspan; Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations
* Stanley Fischer, Chief Economist IMF, Chairman Bank of Israel; Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations
* Paul Wolfowitz, Neocon; Bilderberg Group
* Richarad Perle, Neocon; Bilderberg Group
* Nadine Strossen, Executive Director, ACLU; Council on Foreign Relations
* Mortimer Zuckerman, Chairman U.S. News and World Report; Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group
* Stephen Friedman, Co-Chairman Goldman Sachs & Co; Trilateral Commission
* Robert E. Rubin, Director Citigroup Inc; Council on Foreign Relations
* Peter R. Kann, CEO of Wall Street Journal; Trilateral Commission
* Katharine Graham, President Newsweek: Council on Foreign Relations
* Richard N. Haass; President, Council on Foreign Relations
* Martin S. Feldstein, President, National Bureau of Economic Research, Inc; Trilateral Commission, Council
   on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group

PUTIN & RUSSIAN ORTHDOX CHRISTIAN LEADERS
STAND UP TO THE NWO JEWS

VLADIMIR PUTIN AND PATRIARCH ALEXY II are very close both personally and in their Christian world view. At the European Council held October 2 2007 in Strasbourg, Patriarch Alexy II said:

`” `Any kind of unilateral resolution that doesn`t take into account the opinions of the Serbian people will only result in injustice. We cannot silently stand by when Orthodox Christian monuments and shrines are being destroyed.` `”
See: Crucified Kosovo

On December 10th 2007, Alexy II`s right-hand man, Bishop Kyrill of Smolensk, affirmed Russia`s commitment to defend Orthodox-Christian Serbia:

`” `We want Serbia to retain its integrity. We do not want somebody`s evil will to alienate Kosovo from people who have suffered long enough and have the right to keep this holy place. It is necessary to keep fighting for preservation of the unity of the fraternal Serbian state until the very end.` `”
See: Russian Orthodox Back Serbia In Kosovo Dispute

And pointing to the New World Order oligarchs, the Orthodox Christian Vladimir Putin said in a November 2007 speech to Russian Military Cadets:

`” `There are those who would like to build a unipolar world, who would themselves like to rule all of humanity.`

NWO JEWS AND THEIR HATRED OF CHRISTIAN SERBIA

WE CAN STOP THE JEWS of the New World Order by supporting Russian President Vladimir Putin. Support for Vladimir Putin is support for Christian dominance in the Balkans.

We must understand that the Jewish slogans, `democracy` and `majority rule,` are no longer viable parameters. If we wish to apply this Jewish way of scheming, then we must insist along with the Mexican-American independence leaders, that America`s Southwest be returned to Mexico, according to majority rule.

THE JEWS OF The New World Order want to turn over Orthodox Christian Kosovo to the Albanian Muslims. We must not allow them to do this. We must not fall for their Jewish lie, `ethnic Albanians must have their majority rule.`

Jews do not care about `majority rule.` They are only 2% of the American population and they, the minority, are ruling our lives. Do we really want the Anti Christian Jews to rule our lives?

There is one world leader who does not want Anti-Christian Jews to rule the lives of Russian and Serbian Christians. This is why I, and many other Orthodox Christians, shout it out, `Many Years To Russian President Vladimir Putin!''
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: * Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2010, 10:30:23 AM »
Oh, another  Nathanael "Borat" Kapner,  Pootie Poot sex-up.

Perhaps he is and maybe he is not. I try to keep an open mind. Putin is apparently also a Freemason and if he is on board with the rest of our shysters `” well, then there is not much hope left. 
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: * Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2010, 10:36:48 AM »
@ sushigirl  - I think that the only way we will know for sure is how Russia reacts to any attack against Iran by Israel, et al.

I am skeptical of Putin's Christian bonafides because he never speaks out about Gaza.

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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2010, 10:56:37 AM »
Kapner has been spot on. I dont discount his info.
He renounced Jewry for Christianity and a chaste life.

I agree with the message.

Sincerely renouncing Judaism might be more rare, but others have done it.
Just like many disenchanted Christians have embraced Islam or Buddhism.

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Far as Putin goes, one of two things. Either He is crazy like a fox and a master chess player,  
or  he's one of them....I remain optimistic.

Well, I reckon we'll know for sure after the feathers hit the fan. `” Meanwhile, it's everyone's guess.

"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2010, 11:12:30 AM »
@ sushigirl  - I think that the only way we will know for sure is how Russia reacts to any attack against Iran by Israel, et al.

Yes, that would indeed be the Litmus test.

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I am skeptical of Putin's Christian bonafides because he never speaks out about Gaza.

Is Dmitry speaking with Putin's tongue?

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev urged the United States on Wednesday to actively work to achieve peace in the Mideast with the support of other nations, and hinted that no one should be excluded from the peace process, including Hamas..

His comment appeared to indicate Moscow's willingness to become an active Middle East mediator. On Tuesday, during a visit to Syria, Medvedev said Israeli-Arab tensions threaten to draw the Middle East into a new catastrophe, adding Moscow's weight to a diplomatic push to ease antagonism between Israel and Syria....

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=175366

And then there is still this haunting photo:

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2010, 05:08:40 PM »
@ sushigirl  - I think that the only way we will know for sure is how Russia reacts to any attack against Iran by Israel, et al.

I am skeptical of Putin's Christian bonafides because he never speaks out about Gaza.

I am skeptical of Putin's bona fides because I saw him lifting up that little boy's shirt and kissing his stomach, and making goo goo eyes at the faggot Dubya Bush. And what happened to the defense missile system that he never delivered to Iran?  And why is he going along with IsraHell/ZOG-USA's planned sanctions (war) against Iran?
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010, 05:11:10 PM »
"I think that the only way we will know for sure is how Russia reacts to any attack against Iran by Israel, et al."

Didn't do a damn thing when close ally Yugoslavia was gratuitously trashed by ZOG-USA. 
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Re: * Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010, 05:27:13 PM »
Stalin was a Jew

Krucheff was a Jew

Putin is a Jew

Meldevlev is a Jew

In 1917 the Jew Bolsheviks killed the Romanovs, and they have ruled/robbed Russia ever since

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Re: * Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2010, 05:43:15 PM »
Stalin was a Jew

Krucheff was a Jew

Putin is a Jew

Meldevlev is a Jew

In 1917 the Jew Bolsheviks killed the Romanovs, and they have ruled/robbed Russia ever since

Putin isn't a Jew. Next you'll blaming Jews for today's art heist in Paris.
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Re: * Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2010, 05:57:05 PM »
Mendeleev is descended from Czar Nicholas.  That's why Putin brought him on board.  The only thing for sure about Putin is that he enjoys confrontation with the West, and is very good at the game.  He and China killed the NWO.
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Re: * Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 08:02:45 PM »
Putin isn't a Jew. Next you'll blaming Jews for today's art heist in Paris.



Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (born 7 October 1952 in Leningrad, USSR; now Saint Petersburg, Russia) was the second President of Russia and is the current Prime Minister of Russia as well as chairman of United Russia and Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Union of Russia and Belarus.
Date of birth:   7 October, 1952
Place of birth:   Saint Petersburg
Nationality:   Russia
Parents:   Maria Ivanovna Shelomova, Vladimir Spiridonovich Putin
Children:   Maria Putin, Yekaterina Putin
Profession:   Prime minister, Politician
Religion:   Russian Orthodox Church
Ethnicity:   Russian
Books:   Judo: History, Theory, Practice, First Person



The Wikipedia has about his childhood:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin

His mother, Maria Ivanovna Shelomova(1911-1998), was a factory worker and his father, Vladimir Spiridonovich Putin(1911-1999), was conscripted into the Soviet Navy, where he served in the submarine fleet in the early 1930s.[26] His father subsequently served with the NKVD in a sabotage group during World War II.[27] Two elder brothers were born in the mid-1930s; one died within a few months of birth; the second succumbed to diphtheria during the siege of Leningrad. His paternal grandfather, Spiridon Putin(1879-1965), had been Vladimir Lenin's and Joseph Stalin's personal cook.[28]

His autobiography, Ot Pervogo Litsa, (English: First Person)[26] is based on Putin's interviews, and speaks of humble beginnings, including early years in a communal apartment. In his youth, Putin was eager to emulate the intelligence officer characters played on the Soviet screen by actors such as Vyacheslav Tikhonov and Georgiy Zhzhonov.


Below are a few pictures, the first from Wikipedia allegedly from 1958 when Vladimir Putin was 6 years old.



This is from the Daily Telegraph article. It is a picture Vera Putin has of her lost son, taken when he was seven years old

The lady claims in the Telegraph article, that she gave her boy away at age 10 in 1960, so if the above photo really shows Vladimir Putin, and its data are genuine, then the lost boy of Vera Putina and the one on the picture cannot be the same since it is from 1958.

Below are pictures of the Vera Putina -- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3568891/Could-this-woman-be-Vladimir-Putins-real-mother.html



and Vladimir Putin    

"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: * Is Putin A True Christian Leader?
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2010, 08:12:47 PM »
That's a serious old broad.
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2010, 08:22:04 PM »
Apparently she is 82 years old. She must have had a hard life.

Did you read the telegraph article?
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2010, 11:15:47 PM »
Apparently she is 82 years old. She must have had a hard life.

Did you read the telegraph article?

She would have more credibility if she wasn't from Georgia and a peasant, and only came out with this claim in 1999.

Next...

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His paternal grandfather, Spiridon Putin(1879-1965), had been Vladimir Lenin's and Joseph Stalin's personal cook.[28]

I caught this bit from wiki regarding Lenin's wife Nadezhda Krupskaya Lenin.

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[edit] Death

According to Nikita Khrushchev who referred to NKVD archives, she(Nadezhda Krupskaya Lenin) was poisoned by Stalin with a cake he sent as a present on her seventieth birthday [22]

Was Putin's dad also the cake baker? Who knows what to believe from Wiki and the Telegraph. The only thing we know for sure is: according to our jew oligarchs, Putin is undemocratic and a tyrant. A few years ago Jews were spreading rumors on the net Putin was Jewish.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2010, 06:30:41 AM »
I dont believe Putin is a Jew.
Manchurian Candidate perhaps, especially if he was adopted and worked intelligence. Jacob knows Jews and he may be right, nothing would surprise me at this point.

Bottom Line:
Jews are playing both sides against the middle.
Pick your poison.


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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2010, 06:56:33 AM »
rumors on the net Putin was Jewish.


That goes along with Hitler being called jewish.  But it can't be true.  If they were really jewish, they would be routinely described as "brilliant". 
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2010, 07:20:20 AM »
Apparently she is 82 years old. She must have had a hard life.

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She has stunning eyes!
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