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DNA test shows Hitler skull is that of a woman
« on: September 28, 2009, 11:58:16 PM »
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26135072-401,00.html

DNA test shows Hitler skull is that of a woman

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Research on a skull fragment thought to be Adolf Hitler's has cast doubt on the circumstances of his death/ Reuters

    * DNA tests done on Hitler skull fragment
    * Result says it's skull of a woman
    * Casts doubts on the death of Hitler

ADOLF Hitler may not have died in a bunker after fresh research suggests the skull thought to be the tyrant's was from a woman.

US archaeologist Nick Bellantoni found fragments from the skull believed to be Hitler's were too thin to be from a male, and suspected it was the remains of a much younger woman, The Sun reports.

"The bone seemed very thin - male bone tends to be more robust. It corresponds to a woman between the ages of 20 and 40," Dr Bellantoni said.

DNA tests performed in a US laboratory confirmed the remains could not have belonged to the Nazi leader.

The discovery casts doubt on the exact circumstances of Hitler`s death and could force history books to be rewritten.

Original accounts of Hitler`s death said he shot himself in the head in a bunker after taking a cyanide tablet on April 30, 1945 as the Russian army attacked Berlin.
   

His remains, along with those of his wife Eva Braun, were taken from the bunker, doused in petrol and set ablaze.

A year later, skull fragments were dug up by Russian forces which seemed to confirm Hitler had shot himself in the bunker.

In 1970, the KGB cremated Hitler`s remains except for the skull fragment.

Dr Bellantoni was sceptical about the theory the skull fragments belong to Eva Braun, who was with Hitler in the bunker where he supposedly died.

"There is no report of Eva Braun having shot herself or having been shot afterwards. It could be anyone. Many people were killed around the bunker area," he said.

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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 08:39:58 PM »
The story of Hitler's death was always doubtful, and relied upon very fake sources. After doubts were voiced in the post-war years, the British and Russians came up with two "eye witnesses" to the burning of the bodies, who gave a very fake sounding testimony.

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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2009, 08:41:19 PM »
At one time there were rumors that he fled to South America.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2009, 08:44:00 PM »
M_Theory, if you remember him, said that Hitler was shot, I don't recall what he said about Eva Braun.

Here is another article  *   Uki Goñi * The Observer, Sunday 27 September 2009
   
Tests on skull fragment cast doubt on Adolf Hitler suicide story

Bone with bullet hole found by Russians in 1946 came from an unknown woman, not the German leader



Similar article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/27/adolf-hitler-suicide-skull-fragment
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2009, 09:16:47 PM »
The assumption one is led to believe by this Jewish narrative is that perhaps Hitler faked his death and lived on.

I think one can learn a lot about Jews by what they project. We already know that most jew bolshevic war criminals who fled Europe changed their names when they moved to the US and other places.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2009, 10:33:10 PM »
The assumption one is led to believe by this Jewish narrative is that perhaps Hitler faked his death and lived on.

I think one can learn a lot about Jews by what they project. We already know that most jew bolshevic war criminals who fled Europe changed their names when they moved to the US and other places.

I tend to believe that both were murdered and it was made out to be a suicide.
What good would it have done had he gone to Argentina? They would have hunted
him down anyway.
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 05:28:58 AM »
I don't believe we'll ever know for sure how he died, but for sure the suicide story turns him into a non-hero.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 07:21:38 AM »
....and that is more than likely the intent.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2009, 11:55:54 AM »
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What good would it have done had he gone to Argentina?

Those who say that he went to Argentina also argue that he was a Rothschild

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 12:17:52 PM »
Those who say that he went to Argentina also argue that he was a Rothschild.

Who really knows, Dirar. It was--and still is--nothing unusual for a housekeeper to get pregnant.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2011, 01:05:41 PM »
Bone with bullet hole found by Russians in 1946 came from an unknown woman, not the German leade
 
Share1014  Uki Goñi The Observer, Sunday 27 September 2009 Article history
A general view of what Russian officials claim to be a fragment of Adolf Hitler's skull, at an exhibition in Moscow, Wed April 26, 2000. Photograph: Mikhail Metzel/AP
 
In countless biographies of Adolf Hitler the story of his final hours is recounted in the traditional version: committing suicide with Eva Braun, he took a cyanide pill and then shot himself on 30 April 1945, as the Russians bombarded Berlin.

Some historians expressed doubt that the Führer had shot himself, speculating that accounts of Hitler's death had been embellished to present his suicide in a suitably heroic light. But a fragment of skull, complete with bullet hole, which was taken from the bunker by the Russians and displayed in Moscow in 2000, appeared to settle the argument.

Until now. In the wake of new revelations, the histories of Hitler's death may need to be rewritten – and left open-ended. American researchers claim to have demonstrated that the skull fragment, secretly preserved for decades by Soviet intelligence, belonged to a woman under 40, whose identity is unknown. DNA analyses performed on the bone, now held by the Russian State Archive in Moscow, have been processed at the genetics lab of the University of Connecticut. The results, broadcast in the US by a History Channel documentary, Hitler's Escape, astonished scientists.

According to Connecticut archaeologist and bone specialist Nick Bellantoni, it was clear from the outset that something was amiss. "The bone seemed very thin; male bone tends to be more robust," he said. "And the sutures where the skull plates come together seemed to correspond to someone under 40." In April 1945 Hitler turned 56.

Bellantoni had flown to Moscow to inspect the gruesome Hitler trophies at the State Archive, which included the skull fragment as well as bloodstains from the bunker sofa on which Hitler and Braun were believed to have committed suicide. He was allowed only one hour with the Hitler trove, during which time he applied cotton swabs and took DNA samples. "I had the reference photos the Soviets took of the sofa in 1945 and I was seeing the exact same stains on the fragments of wood and fabric in front of me, so I knew I was working with the real thing."

The samples were then flown back to Connecticut. At the university's centre for applied genetics, Linda Strausbaugh closed her lab for three days to work exclusively on the Hitler project. "We used the same routines and controls that would have been used in a crime lab," she said. To her surprise, a small amount of viable DNA was extracted. She then replicated this through a process known as molecular copying to provide enough material for analysis. "We were very lucky to get a reading, despite the limited amount of genetic information," she said.

The result was extraordinary. According to witnesses, the bodies of Hitler and Braun had been wrapped in blankets and carried to the garden just outside the Berlin bunker, placed in a bomb crater, doused with petrol and set ablaze.

But the skull fragment the Russians dug up outside the Führerbunker in 1946 could never have belonged to Hitler. The skull DNA was incontestably female. The only positive physical proof that Hitler had shot himself had suddenly been rendered worthless. The result is a mystery reopened and, for conspiracy theorists the tantalising possibility that Hitler did not die in the bunker.

For decades after the war the fate of Hitler's corpse was shrouded in secrecy. No picture or film was made public. As the Soviet Army secured control of Berlin in May 1945, Russian forensic specialists under the command of the counterintelligence unit Smersh (an acronym for "Death to Spies") dug up what was presumed to be the dictator's body outside the bunker and performed a post-mortem examination behind closed doors. A part of the skull was absent, presumably blown away by Hitler's suicide shot, but what remained of his jaw coincided with his dental records, a fact reportedly confirmed when the Russians showed his surviving dental work to the captured assistants of Hitler's dentist. The autopsy also reported that Hitler, as had been rumoured, had only one testicle.

But Stalin remained suspicious. In 1946 a second secret mission was dispatched to Berlin. In the same crater from which Hitler's body had been recovered, the new team found what it believed was the missing skull fragment with a bullet exit wound through it. The Russians also took fragments of Hitler's bloodstained sofa.

Even this failed to satisfy Stalin, who clamped a secrecy order on all matters related to Hitler's death. Unknown to the world, Hitler's corpse was interred at a Smersh centre in Magdeburg, East Germany. There it remained long after Stalin's death in 1953. Finally, in 1970, the KGB dug up the corpse, cremated it and secretly scattered the ashes in a river. Only the jawbone, the skull fragment and the bloodstained sofa segments were preserved in the deep archives of Soviet intelligence. The bunker was destroyed in 1947 and eventually paved over. Then, in 2000, the Russian State Archive in Moscow staged an exhibition, The Agony of the Third Reich. The skull fragment was displayed, but only photographs of Hitler's jawbone were on view. The head of the archive, Sergei Mironenko, said he had no doubt the skull fragment was authentic. "It is not just some bone we found in the street, but a fragment of a skull that was found in a hole where Hitler's body had been buried," he said.

In the wake of Bellantoni and Strausbaugh's findings, Mironenko's confidence was clearly misplaced. But could the fragment of skull belong to Eva Braun, who died at 33 and was laid alongside her beloved Führer in the same crater? "We know the skull corresponds to a woman between the ages of 20 and 40," said Bellantoni, but he is sceptical about the Braun thesis. "There is no report of Eva Braun having shot herself or having been shot afterwards. It could be anyone. Many people were killed around the bunker area."

Sixty-four years later, the world is still in the dark about what really happened in Hitler's bunker on 30 April 1945.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/27/adolf-hitler-suicide-skull-fragment

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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2011, 05:09:17 AM »
I remember seeing this photo many years ago and thinking something was wrong about it.

Wasn't Hitler supposed to have been burned?

1945: HITLER--DEAD OR ALIVE?


"Our story begins with what, under other circumstances, might have been a happy occasion--the wedding of Adolf Hitler and his longtime mistress Eva Braun. Following the reception, just after midnight on April 30, "with a faraway expression," Hitler "went down the hall, shaking hands. Several said a few words, but he did not answer, moving his lips inaudibly."

source: http://tst.greyfalcon.us/deadoralive.html
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2011, 05:46:58 AM »
after fulfilling his duty of paving the way for israel. he probably spent the remainder of his life pampered in a rothschild castle
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2011, 08:26:03 AM »
after fulfilling his duty of paving the way for israel. he probably spent the remainder of his life pampered in a rothschild castle
Thanks for clearing the whole thing up, Your Popeness.
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2011, 05:01:37 AM »
Perhaps this might interest you, an argument that Hitler and Bormann were Illuminati agents. Makes sense in light of his missing body
http://www.henrymakow.com/hitler_and_bormann_were_traito.html

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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2011, 05:11:41 AM »
And by the way, I had already posted this news 2 years ago
http://www.freedomportal.net/index.php?topic=14775.0;topicseen

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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2011, 08:33:53 PM »
The assumption one is led to believe by this Jewish narrative is that perhaps Hitler faked his death and lived on.

I think one can learn a lot about Jews by what they project. We already know that most jew bolshevic war criminals who fled Europe changed their names when they moved to the US and other places.

Is Bellatoni  a judaix?

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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2011, 08:44:47 PM »
Is Bellatoni  a judaix?

He could be, but if he isn't that doesn't matter cause Jews couldn't do what they do with complicit goyim.

If it makes the national press of a jew run country you can bet it doesn't hurt Jews.
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2011, 09:22:41 PM »
He was allowed only one hour with the Hitler trove, during which time he applied cotton swabs and took DNA samples.

Disregard that back then there was no DNA analysis.

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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2011, 09:42:12 PM »
And by the way, I had already posted this news 2 years ago
http://www.freedomportal.net/index.php?topic=14775.0;topicseen

Indeed you did... as you can see I merged the two threads. Thanks for mentioning that.
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