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The Last Circle
« on: August 24, 2009, 08:17:26 PM »
The Last Circle
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"In vast laboratories in the Ministry of Peace, and in experimental stations, teams of experts are indefatigably at work searching for new and deadlier gases; or for soluble poisons capable of being produced in such quantities as to destroy the vegetation of whole continents; or for breeds of disease germs immunised against all possible antibodies"

George Orwell - 1984


Thomaspain ~ Nolajbs

I look and all I see are sayanim, house-niggers of the Jews, and frightened and blackmailed politicians. Occasionally we see a politician who is so old that he doesn't give a damn anymore. If we were to see a knight-in-shining-armor, the shine would be manufactured and maintained by the controlled media.

Leaderless Resistance and awakening the people seem to be the only courses open to us at this time.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: The Last Circle
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 08:36:32 PM »
Was Orwell a prophet?.... hopefully not.

But, here are a few items from his book 1984 (wrote in 1949) which now exist in modern life.

    1984 : Newspeak
    Now  : Politically Correct speech

    1984 : The red sash of the Junior Anti-Sex League
    Now  : The red ribbon of the Anti-Aids celibacy league

    1984 : Telescreens in every room. The programming runs 24 hours a day, and the proles have no
             way of turning their screens off.

    Now  : Televisions in every room. The programming runs 24 hours a day, and the proles rarely turn
              their screens off.

    1984 : Telescreens in all public and private places, so the populace could be watched to prevent
              thought-crime.

    Now  : Surveillance cameras in most buildings (operated by businesses), and in some public streets
              (operated by police) to prevent crime. Although most of these cameras are operated by private
              businesses instead of our intrusive government, the end result is the same.

    1984 : Helicopters silently watch over the masses to keep people from committing thought-crime,
              by planting the fear of "always being watched"

    Now  : Helicopters silently watch over our highways to keep people from breaking traffic laws, by
              planting the fear of "always being watched"

    1984 : Lotteries with very few (if any) winners. Held just to collect income for state, and to give
              hope to the masses

    Now  : Lotteries with very few (if any) winners. Held just to collect income for state, and to give hope
              to the masses. Lotteries are basically a tax on stupidity. Anybody with any understanding of
              math at all knows that it is a complete waste of money. Since only 45% of the money collected
              from sales is sent back out as prizes, odds are that you are going to loose more than half of the
              money the put into it - and most people will not see any return on their investment what-so-ever.

              Every time I see some minimum-wage-earning mother-of-four throwing her her hard earned five
              dollar bill down on the counter for a pack of cigarettes and a "chance to win millions", my cold
              heart melts. Lotteries and cigarette taxes are nothing more than a way to squeeze every last
              cent possible out of the lower and middle class, and the politicians that are responsible for these
              "poverty taxes" should be drug out into the street and shot.

              When the state sold the idea to state run gambling to the public, they told us that the money
              would go to education. ("How can you be against the kids!") But, they failed to tell us that the
              existing funding would be pulled away to fund other projects, resulting in little if any gain for
              education.

And as I mentioned earlier, only 45% of lottery revenues are returned directly to the people in the form of prizes. And, if you happen to be the person that defies the odds and somehow manages to win that 45%, the federal and state taxes are going to reclaim 30%-50% of your winnings, which only leaves about 25%-30% of the original take for the the winners - the other 70%-75% being taken by the state.
   
And, as if that wasn`t enough money to make the state happy, the "big money" prizes are usually paid off over a 20 year period. So, the prize winner`s earning are diminished even further by inflation. But really, when you look at it, the government is actually keeping ALL of the money...

If a person wins $1,000,000, their yearly payments would be $50,000 a year. However, the interest on $1,000,000 at the prime rate (approx 8%) is is about $80,000 a year!... $30,000 more than is being paid off to the winner! Of course, the winner may elect to take half now ... which means state and federal governments will end up retaining 85%-90% of the original receipts!

And of course, any purchases made with your winnings will be subject to local sales tax...
No matter how you look at it, the only real winner is the state.

    1984 : Ministry of Peace
    Now  : Department of Defense

    1984 : Useless statistics, incorrect economic predictions, and slanted opinions polls are presented on
              the telescreen as "legitimate news", to give people the impression that "things are getting
              better", and that all people agree with the popular way of thinking.

    Now  : Useless statistics, incorrect economic predictions, and slanted opinions polls are presented on
              the Evening news as "legitimate news", to give people the impression that "things are getting
              better", and that all people agree with the popular way of thinking.

    1984 : History is being rewritten, to conform with modern beliefs. All references to old-think were
              being removed or rewritten.

    Now  : History is being rewritten, to conform with modern beliefs. The most obvious example of this -
              The removal of "racist", Violent, or Sexist material from popular cartoons. "Heckle & Jeckle"
              cartoons have been permanently shelved, since they are said to portray "negros". "Tom & Jerry"
              cartoons that contained the "mamma" character have also disappeared. You no longer see Daffy`s
              head actually being blown off by Elmer. I recently saw an old superman cartoon in which the
              sexist line, "Isn`t that too dangerous for a woman" (referring to Lois) was removed.

    1984 : People are steered away from consuming rare goods such as Chocolate, Steak, Sugar, Coffee,
              Cigarettes, and alcohol by rationing.

    Now  : People are steered away from consuming rare goods such as Chocolate, Steak, Sugar, Coffee,
              Cigarettes, and alcohol by warnings that declare that these items are bad for your health.

    1984 : There is always war. If peace is made with one country, war is claimed on another nation to
              keep the military machine rolling.

    Now  : There is always war. If peace is made with one country, war is claimed (or threatened) on
              another nation to keep the military machine rolling.

    1984 : Songs are created by machines. This is done to make sure nobody can take credit for songs,
              or write songs not in line with Ingsoc.

    Now  : Songs are created by synthesizers. Nobody can realistically take credit for their own songs
              because most songs are re-mixes or a collage of dubs from other people`s music.

    1984 : Telescreen is full of confessions from "Thought criminals". They confessed to hatred of the
              government, crimes of all kinds, perversions of all kinds.

    Now  : Daytime talk shows are full of white trash who enjoy sharing tales of their pathetic existence
              with the whole world.

    1984 : From Goldstein`s book -

"The effect (of the atomic wars) was to convince the ruling groups of all countries that a few more atomic bombs would mean the end of organized society, and hence of their own power. Thereafter, although no formal agreement was ever made or hinted at, no more bombs were dropped. All three powers merely continue to produce atomic bombs and store them up against the decisive opportunity which they all believe will come sooner or later.

And meanwhile the art of war has remained almost stationary for thirty or forty years. Helicopters are more used than they were formerly, bombing planes have been largely superseded by self-propelled projectiles, and the fragile movable battleship has given way to the almost unsinkable Floating Fortress; but otherwise there has been little development.

The tank, the submarine, the torpedo, the machine gun, even the rifle and the hand grenade are still in use. And in spite of the endless slaughters reported in the Press and on the telescreens, the desperate battles of earlier wars, in which hundreds of thousands or even millions of men were often killed in a few weeks, have never been repeated."

Now  : The effect (of the only nuclear war in history, WWII) was to convince the ruling groups of all countries that a few more atomic bombs would mean the end of organized society, and hence of their own power. Thereafter, although the threat of atomic war remained, no more bombs were dropped. All atomic powers merely continued to produce atomic bombs and store them up against the decisive opportunity which they all believed will come sooner or later. And meanwhile the art of war has remained almost stationary for fifty or sixty years.

Helicopters are more used than they were formerly, bombing planes have been largely superseded by self-propelled projectiles, and the fragile movable battleship has given way to the aircraft carrier, (which generally stays far away from any actual combat); but otherwise there has been little development. The tank, the submarine, the torpedo, the machine gun, even the rifle and the hand grenade are still in use. And in spite of the endless slaughters reported in the Press and on the television, the desperate battles of earlier wars, in which hundreds of thousands or even millions of men were often killed in a few weeks, have never been repeated.

Hmmm... maybe Orwell really could predict the future!
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: The Last Circle
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 10:02:27 PM »
The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labor.. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent.
-- George Orwell, 1984
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: The Last Circle
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 03:42:08 AM »
The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labor.. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent.
-- George Orwell, 1984


brilliant

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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 09:43:04 AM »
Thank you, there is a lot truth in that quote.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: The Last Circle
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 02:06:38 PM »
    1984 : Helicopters silently watch over the masses to keep people from committing thought-crime,
              by planting the fear of "always being watched"

    Now  : Helicopters silently watch over our highways to keep people from breaking traffic laws, by
              planting the fear of "always being watched"

A better example would be those helicopters flying over the homes of the people with infrared sensors looking for heat signatures of "grow rooms". Even if you can not afford to heat your entire home and tend to live in a smaller room only heating that room, get ready for a knock on your door, oh wait they don't knock anymore,,, they yell in a muffled ninga masked grunt were are the police and we're here to help you get on the ground and get tased for looking in my direction.
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Re: The Last Circle
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 03:37:45 PM »

I dip in and out of 1984 over a long period of time -- still haven't finished it

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Re: The Last Circle
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2009, 03:39:06 PM »
I forgot to ask if that is really god pictured there? Lol! A steroid monkey!
Truth justice and the American way is a list of three different things that are not necessarily related. 2001 9 11 is an inside job and an open case file treated by those that refuse to do their duty as a closed case file.

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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2009, 07:01:34 PM »
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Hmmm... maybe Orwell really could predict the future!

What future? The Roman oligarchs used: bread, and circus, and lottery to placate the masses. They use our weaknesses and laziness to dominate us. What has changed?

(Please check the Moon-phase to explain the despondency level.)

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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2009, 07:05:52 PM »
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dip in and out of 1984 over a long period of time -- still haven't finished it

It is painful, isn't it?


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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2009, 07:06:53 PM »
And I hear they do that too...
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2009, 07:08:41 PM »
I dip in and out of 1984 over a long period of time -- still haven't finished it

Nor have I. I'm usually too tired and last just for a few pages.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2009, 07:22:40 PM »
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What future? The Roman oligarchs used: bread, and circus, and lottery to placate the masses. They use our weaknesses and laziness of dominate us. What has changed?

We have running water out of a tap, but slowly it is running out... Other than that, nothing much else has changed.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2009, 08:04:56 AM »
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It is painful, isn't it?

Yeah, it is


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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2009, 08:23:21 AM »

It's the 'Catcher in the Rye' for nationalists

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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2009, 10:07:07 AM »
It's the 'Catcher in the Rye' for nationalists

I've heard about it, but have not read the book.

   `Life is a game, boy. Life is a game that one plays according to the rules.`
   `Yes, sir.
    I know it is.
    I know it.`

    Game, my ass. Some game. If you get on the side where all the hot-shots are,
    then it`s a game, all right`”I`ll admit that. But if you get on the other side, where
    there aren`t any hot-shots, then what`s a game about it?
    Nothing.
    No game.

"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2009, 11:19:33 AM »


Save yourself the time - don't read it. Jewish youth nihilism par excellence, aimed at teens

1984 on the other hand is worth reading, so maybe it was a bad comparison.

The whole concept of 'Catcher' was to communicate an empathetic futility towards youth. 1984 is similar in that nationalists can empathize with the pain of suppression Winston Smith goes through on a daily basis - but because I never finished it I don't know whether the message of 1984 was ultimately one of affirmation or futility.

 

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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2009, 02:18:39 PM »
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2009, 02:28:01 PM »
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Save yourself the time - don't read it. Jewish youth nihilism par excellence, aimed at teens.

Good, thanks.  :)  As soon as I finish my current book, I'll get to Orwell.
He certainly has been quoted a lot lately.
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: The Last Circle
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2009, 09:50:11 PM »
I can't read 1984 anymore. Every few pages I'm struck by the pertinence to today, and I just can't stand to read more, put it down, get drunk, and hopefully have a dreamless sleep.