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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2009, 07:48:43 PM »

       He risked all for peace

     
   
   Rudolf Hess was finally...... at age
   93, grisly murdered for his valiant
   effort for peace 46 years  earlier.


67 YEARS AGO
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On May 10, 1941, in the early days of World War II, a man undertook a daring, solo flight to Scotland. He carried with him a simple message.

It was an urgent plea for an end to hostilities between his country `” Germany `” and Great Britain. In an act of unprecedented heroism and at great personal risk, he sought to bring an end to the existing state of war between the two countries, in accordance with the wishes of the German Leader, Adolf Hitler. For his valiant efforts, he was promptly seized and placed under arrest `” without even the courtesy of a hearing of his peace proposals! For the next forty-six years he would remain a prisoner under the most appalling and barbaric of conditions. The man was `” RUDOLF HESS.

Had he been successful, the world would not have been witness to the endless pain and suffering and the senseless slaughter of tens of millions as a result of Allied refusal to grant so much as a single hearing to the earnest proposals for peace from someone who, along with his Leader, had personally experienced the horrors of war.

Ironically, after the war Hess was brought before a kangaroo court at Nuremberg and charged with `”"crimes against peace"! In the show trial of the century he was convicted and sentenced to life in prison.

Nearly a half century later, at age 93, the sentence of this longest-serving prisoner of conscience in modern time would be terminated on August 17, 1987. With his grisly murder inside Berlin's notorious Spandau Fortress prison by his British captors, acting in collusion with their American cohorts, Rudolf Hess would join those 11 other Martyrs of Nuremberg, who were strangled to death 41 years earlier.

He paid the ultimate price.

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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2009, 09:12:26 PM »
The oligarchs still have a few tricks left up their sleeves.  USA still has a formidable military that can continue to enforce (albeit to a weaker extent) dollar hegemony.  The Euro is a joke, Russia has a primitive resource-based economy & China must stick with the USA 'cause even in a depression we still buy more of their junk than the Russkies.  & nobody ever explains to me if the pure Zionists have been running things than why hasn't Israel been allowed to expand to E'retz Israel other than piecemeal & often grindingly-slow efforts.

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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2009, 09:36:56 PM »
Yeah, of course Hitler had his admirers in the "West" because he was a stooge promoted by the fascist oligarchy in London & Wall St.  They put Mussolini on the cover of Time Magazine 6 times.  He wasn't trapped into a war, he walked into it with his stupid eyes wide open.  Mein Kampf clearly spells out his philosophy that War was the eternal value...the results didn't matter.  Do people forget how Hitler started his post-WWI career?  A paid snitch who spied on the German Workers' Party.  & Hitler even stated that the "Socialism" in "National Socialism" was mostly a propaganda trick.

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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2009, 12:43:31 AM »
I'm trying to make sense of the organized collapse and restructuring of the J-ws' monetary system and find some clues as to where things will go. My first unshakable premise is the amount of debt being taken on at this time can never be repaid.


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We will see the govt. taxing people to death just to keep up with the interest payments that will result in a lower standard of living for most working people.


As foriegn aid continues like never before. (israeli aid can stop with no harm from israelis right!) From where does it come when the check book balance is in deficit?


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In Mass. cigarettes in the last month because of a new tax went from $6.50 to $8.00, and in a few weeks when the new fed. tax kicks in they'll be $9.00. There's also going to be a new gas tax of 20 cents per gallon, not to mention a hike in tolls, fines, trash collection, and public transportation. In sum the govt. will keep squeezing more $$$ from every little area.


Those smokers standing outside in the snow should turn around go in and yell at the first complaintant, "I pay a hell of a lot more in taxes than you so shut the hell up. Fix the ventalation system if the 'smoke' bothers you."


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Our oligarchs will also see their profits go down as production and consumer spending decreases. And in the bigger picture NY and London will no longer be the financial capitals of the world as countires like Russia, China, and Iraq stop using dollars. All this on top of fighting 2 trillion dollar wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.


Money for nothing is still profit. That only means they can pay out a lot less in wages, making up for the totals.


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At some point something is going to give cause the J-ws are not going to become second class world citizens to China and Russia. I see a better than 50% chance that we will see an uncontrollable military confrontation with Russia, China, or both.


You can see two outcomes with China depending on the reality behind the power. There is an old line in China that are jewish, how much politial/military power do they now hold. If it is a majority, they will play the world wide collapse game, if not, look out for payback time when the tab is called. They may have controls over justice here... but China could be the wild card.


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Some people here are more optimistic though, like Wag for example, who actually believes markets will get back in shape and things will return to their former selves. I don't share his optimism.

It sure seems easy for a small kabal to disrupt the entire market train. My hope lies in one fact, people still need to eat and nobody can really make it alone today. That nuke wildcard is what upsets me. Is it beyond possibilities for mega tone devices already set in place for the political black mail to work within these USSA borders? Those dreams have returned to me, of a dark destroyed aftermath of a blast, and in it, my Vickie wants to return home to pick up her purse she forgot.


Is there any pre-ww1 historians able to better explain the developements that led up to that zionist setup? Pushing the fed here and similar things in other nations that maybe helped to push the covert need to destroy those resistive nations??

That money changing trick is the profit of a parasite, and with world markets dealing in dollars, makes that trick worth fighting for to those in control of that trick.
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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2009, 01:03:16 AM »
How many times have currencies collapsed in the past. History repeats if they orchestrate it to.

I love the stand Putin played in Iran. Innocent (in the sense the western propaganda plays it) people deserve protection.
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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2009, 01:08:09 AM »
I know, totally contradictory. Then -- after Stalin took over 1/2 of Europe, Winston said: ''It looks like we killed the wrong pig.''

The more I learn about old whinny, I wish he had thought of suicide. If only we can go back to throw a wrench in the gears of that machine that brought two world wars.
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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2009, 06:11:30 AM »
I guess trying the prevent the holocaust of WWII, as well as the holohoax, is not something we need to know about.  We just need to watch Schindler's List again and again.
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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #47 on: April 05, 2009, 07:50:53 AM »
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They may have controls over justice here... but China could be the wild card.

They were trying to become buddy buddy with China against Russia but I think it failed. Then they went to India. China is still a wild card.
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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #48 on: April 05, 2009, 08:40:33 AM »

The oligarchs still have a few tricks left up their sleeves.

The oligarchs run things and have been for centuries. They plan the events, they plan the outcome and the come out ahead...

USA still has a formidable military that can continue to enforce (albeit to a weaker extent) dollar hegemony. 

Yes, that is how they make their 'living'. One damn crusade after another. Remember, war is a racket, deconstruction, re-construction.  Nothing else matters.

Nobody ever explains to me if the pure Zionists have been running things than why hasn't Israel been allowed to expand to E'retz Israel other than piecemeal & often grindingly-slow efforts.

Vhat?! ..... and have peace break out?
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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #49 on: April 05, 2009, 09:04:20 AM »
I love the stand Putin played in Iran....

Ditto!
     
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...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #50 on: April 05, 2009, 09:06:39 AM »
Yep, they become Hangstein and Sengberg.

You beat me to it.  ;D
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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #51 on: April 05, 2009, 09:11:40 AM »
The more I learn about old whinny, I wish he had thought of suicide. If only we can go back to throw a wrench in the gears of that machine that brought two world wars.

In hindsight so many things look different....
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #52 on: April 05, 2009, 09:13:18 AM »
I know, totally contradictory. Then -- after Stalin took over 1/2 of Europe, Winston said: ''It looks like we killed the wrong pig.''

Yeah, that's a huge "ooops".

But really, it was never an ooops with Churchill or Roosevelt. Nor with Wilson (& Colonel House) who enabled the Federal Reserve then claimed to have been duped later. All these guys played the game or were part jewish themselves, and hopefully one day a majority of people in the United States and United Kingdom come to know these things -- it will matter


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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2009, 09:13:29 AM »
I guess trying the prevent the holocaust of WWII, as well as the holohoax, is not something we need to know about.  We just need to watch Schindler's List again and again.


Swindler's list has all the facts!  ;D
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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2009, 09:22:07 AM »

Bush and the 'neocon' bolsheviks said "ooops" after Iraq

Will Obama and his Israeli cabinet say "ooops" after Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Iran?


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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #55 on: April 05, 2009, 09:36:31 AM »
The motto of Steven Spielberg's Oscar-winning movie, "Schindler's List," is "Whoever saves one life, saves the entire world.' The motto is printed on posters and classroom materials used in schools in association with the movie and banners paid for by the Ford Motor Co. In the film this quotation is attributed to the Talmud.

The Talmud passage referred to in "Schindler" is BT Sanhedrin 37a. It reads in the Steinsaltz edition, as follows: 'whoever destroys even a single life in Israel, Scripture regards him as if he had destroyed an entire world. And the converse is also true: Whoever saves a single life in Israel, Scripture regards him as if he had saved the entire world.' Rabbi Neusner's translation of the Mishnah also supports Steinsaltz's edition of the Talmud, yet is even more specific as to whom the teaching actually applies: Whoever destroys a single Israelite soul is deemed by Scripture as if he had destroyed a whole world. And whoever saves a single Israelite soul is deemed by Scripture as if he saved a whole world.'

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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #56 on: April 05, 2009, 09:41:58 AM »
In hindsight so many things look different....

I never liked the whole 'if this hadn't happened, that would have never happened' theories. It does us no good. Like Buchanan's last book -- if he would have just come out and been more straightforward about WWII (like Sir Hartley Shawcross below http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=12463.msg106672#msg106672) rather than using all these historical pluses and minuses, it would be more powerful. Instead it comes off as neutral and ambiguous. Historians should try and get at what really happened in those moments, how, why, and what to learn for the future, amongst other things.
David Hoggan's The Forced War is a good example
http://www.archive.org/details/TheForcedWar
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/David%20Hoggan-The%20Forced%20War.htm

It's too easy to lose the truth about an historical event the more time goes on. We can see this with the 'holocaust' and all those kosher-stamped theories about Hitler being a 'tool of the illuminati bankers'.

What shows the true test of these leaders is whether or not they have foresight and the principles to back it up beforehand to prevent the mistake from being made at all, and to simply do what is right. Hitler falls in this category. He tried and failed. The puppet leaders of zion always seem to appear 'the victors'. Even Bush was a victor -- he got away.

Take Obama -- he must be aware of this
http://www.rense.com/general85/dirrty.htm
But is he going to do anything about it? Of course not. He appointed these people


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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2009, 09:46:42 AM »

But jews are saving black Africans in Darfur

(nevermind the oil)


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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2009, 09:49:21 AM »
Yeah, that's a huge "ooops".

But really, it was never an ooops with Churchill or Roosevelt. Nor with Wilson (& Colonel House) who enabled the Federal Reserve then claimed to have been duped later. All these guys played the game or were part jewish themselves, and hopefully one day a majority of people in the United States and United Kingdom come to know these things -- it will matter

No, never an ''ooops''.

If you look at the Pilgrim Society (I can't find the link right now) and study the names, and the marriages, including the mixed marriages between the founding aristocracy (Freemasons) and the J-ws, then look at today's names in power, they are still very much the same. Even Palin and Bush are related some 15 or 16 generations back. So, no matter what, it's all in the family!
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Re: Finale to a Declining Epoch
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2009, 09:54:07 AM »
Will Obama and his Israeli cabinet say "ooops" after Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Iran?

LOL, either ooops, or NEXT!
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.