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[LoneWolf]

If you're going to go Christian on this issue then maybe you can answer the Pharisees when they asked Jesus what he was doing with the sinners?

Whatever reasons Bollyn had for going there I suspect he saw quickly enough what lovely people he had gotten hooked up with.

[WaltDisney]

As for the rest of them, I don't know what to say...Stadtmiller, Glenn, all of them, who the hell knows?...

Glenn is my relative. SO I KNOW that much about him.
He is a Lebanese Traditional Catholic Christian, has 9 Kids, lives on a Working Ranch in Northern Idaho he built with his own hands, after growing up in Ohio.  
He works with USS Liberty Survivors, was Fired from Both RBN and American Free Press, despite the fact that listenership was up with his broadcasts.
He was very popular with Military personel and former Vets.

Shows you why 'patriots' or whoever never get anything done...Always sniping at each other...Like this forum.

Divide and Conquer.  Hufschmidt seemed to poke the hornets nest more than any.

Basically, you have to use the common sense God gave you when you are making a judgement...I always liked RBN for it's information and entertainment value...Been listening for about 6-7 years...Too bad they hate each other.

RBN serves a purpose, besides Tellawi and Piper, theres not much else there worth listening to.

Bollyn's the best anyway, which is why they get jealous...But even with him, or anyone, use your common sense, and do your own reading.

Piper was researching and writing when Bollyn was on a Kibbutz in Israel.
I take it youve not read his books?


It was Piper that implicated Israel in the murder of JFK, (only person I know of whith that thesis.)
Piper that researched the Real Organized Crime Outfit-being the Jewish Mafia in Chicago, NY et al,
Piper that implicated Israels nuclear program and Israels Nukes, Vanunu, Ben Gurion.
Pipers work often citing notes &  friendship with Jake Bernstein, Eustace Mullins and other significant figures.
Piper that wrote books on other notable Jewish crime figures-Hy Larner to Bronfman to Rockefeller / Rothschild e al.
Piper that outlined the Jewish control of US Media, Banking and Government facilities in documented scholarly fashion


Bollyn covered 911 as well or better than any.  He has yet to write any books.  In that regard, hes a babe in the woods
I like his work on 911, but I dont trust him.

David Duke, to the best of my knowledge, has always denied the official story of 911.
Anything sanitized on it, was perhaps to make it palatable for sheep viewing, but I simply havent seen it.

[FrankDialogue]

Bollyn covered 911 as well or better than any.  He has yet to write any books.  In that regard, hes a babe in the woods
I like his work on 911, but I dont trust him.

David Duke, to the best of my knowledge, has always denied the official story of 911.
Anything sanitized on it, was perhaps to make it palatable for sheep viewing, but I simply havent seen it.

Bollyn has written a book on 911...He has no major publisher for it, but I believe it is available in a limited edition from his website.

And, of course, both he (Bollyn) and David Duke are Jews.

[WaltDisney]

Bollyn has written a book on 911...He has no major publisher for it, but I believe it is available in a limited edition from his website.

I wasnt aware of it, must be a relatively new endeavor for him.
I like his research but something about him and his relationships with others, that rubs me wrong about him.

And, of course, both he (Bollyn) and David Duke are Jews.

I dont think thats true.
Bollyn may have fallen in love or is an agent. Or both.
 I dont know and wont even speculate.


I dont believe that David Duke is a Jew.
I think thats absurd. 

[LoneWolf]

Always sniping at each other...Like this forum.

That's endemic in forums where politics, religion and everything else is the subject matter.

The first LAN game was called 'snipes'... lol

[sushigirl]

Bollyn has written a book on 911...He has no major publisher for it, but I believe it is available in a limited edition from his website.

And, of course, both he (Bollyn) and David Duke are Jews.

And, of course, both he (Bollyn) and David Duke are Jews.
They are? Does the ADL know about that?

http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_Semitism_Domestic/9_11_conspiracy_theories.htm

Far Right Theorists: War in Iraq a "Zionist" Plot

In 2003, when ADL released its report on anti-Semitic 9/11 conspiracy theories, far-right extremists and the Arab and Muslim press claimed that the Mossad trained or duped the 9/11 hijackers into carrying out the attacks or that an Israeli spying ring based in the U.S. knew what the attackers were up to and did nothing to stop them.  These theories have continued to hold currency -- now pointing to the "war on terror" and the invasion of Iraq as proof of Jewish and Israeli involvement in the attacks.

Christopher Bollyn, a writer for the conspiracy-oriented newspaper American Free Press, a leading source on the far-right for disseminating anti-Semitic propaganda, has published numerous articles alleging that Jews and/or Israel had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks.  He also reports that certain Jews in the government not only tried to cover up Israeli involvement in the attacks but have ties to Israeli intelligence.

Writing in the January 2006 edition of American Free Press, Bollyn made allegations about U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff (formerly with the Department of Justice), claiming that Chertoff's family worked for the Mossad.  Bollyn states, "Zionist agents in key positions in the U.S. government, like Michael Chertoff at the Dept. of Justice, the son of one of Israel's first Mossad agents, facilitated the 9-11 cover-up by releasing scores of arrested Israeli agents and assigning blame to Muslims in order to stare the War on Terror."

In a 2005 article in the publication, Bollyn wrote:

"From the very morning aircraft smashed into the World Trade Center (WTC) and the Pentagon, news reports have indicated Israeli intelligence being involved in the events of 9/11 and the planting of 'false flags' to blame Arab terrorists and mold public opinion to support the pre-planned 'war on terror.'"

In addition to numerous articles, the American Free Press publishes book reviews promoting Jewish or Israeli involvement in the 9/11 attacks.  In recent issues, the paper lauded two such books: Enemies by Design and 9-11 Evil: Israel's Central Role in the September 11, 2001, Terrorist Attacks.

David Duke: A Hatemonger Promotes 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

During the week leading up to the five-year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, the notorious white supremacist and former Klansman David Duke has repeated anti-Semitic allegations on his Web site about an Israeli spying ring in the U.S. that was tracking the 9/11 hijackers' every move but failed to pass their knowledge on to the U.S.   Like Christopher Bollyn of American Free Press, he also claims that Jewish members of the government are trying to prevent the public from learning about Israeli involvement in the attacks.

Duke asserts that U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff was behind the cover-up that prevented the exposure of Israel's involvement in the 9/11 attacks.  He writes:

 "One of those in the Justice Department cover up was Michael Chertoff who became head of the Terrorism Task Force in the Attorney General's office. If the Israeli spy ring was to be prosecuted, Chertoff was the man to do it.  (Chertoff by the way is an extreme Jewish supremacist whose very appropriate name means "devil" in its original Jewish-Russian)."

[FrankDialogue]

And, of course, both he (Bollyn) and David Duke are Jews.
They are? Does the ADL know about that?

Dear, I was just talking with old Abe last night, and he told me him and Chris Bollyn go way back...Bollyn's real name is Bollensky...Family from Pinsk, Belarus...Granpop is a rabbi named Shmuel...

Abe knows Duke too, or actually, he knows Duke's old man...Says the Duke family are Sephardic Jews with the real name being Douek which they Anglisized to Duke...Foxman says there was inter-marriage in the family, and somehow David got a 'blonde' gene.

 

[WaltDisney]

Duke is as Sephardic as James Traficante, this is a poison the well tactic.

This comes right off his website:

9/11/2009
The Five Dancing Israelis – On the Anniversary of 911 – Mossad Links to the Attack!


As the world watched in disbelief and asked the question why, …Mossad operatives were seen dancing with joy.
A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming “middle-eastern” men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

“They were like happy, you know … They didn’t look shocked to me” said a witness. (3)
[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)


“It looked like they’re hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.” (7)
One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all of New York’s bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel. Here’s the transcript from NBC News:
Dispatcher: Jersey City police.

Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
Caller: There’s a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.
Dispatcher: He has what?
Caller: He’s dressed like an Arab. (

(*Writer’s note: Why would this mystery caller specifically say that these “Arabs” were Palestinians? How would he know that? Palestinians usually dress in western style clothes, not “sheikh uniforms”)

Based on that phone call, police then issued a “Be-on-the-Lookout” alert for a white mini-van heading for the city’s bridges and tunnels from New Jersey.
White, 2000 Chevrolet van with ‘Urban Moving Systems’ sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals. (9)
When a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New York, the suspicious “middle-easterners” were apprehended. Imagine the surprise of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!

According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:
“We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem.” (10)

Why did he feel Palestinians were a problem for the NYPD?

The police and FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. (11)

The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture. (12)

The Jerusalem Post later reported that a white van with a bomb was stopped as it approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was not revealed. Here’s what the Jerusalem Post reported on September 12, 2001:

American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge. The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the bridge. Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported. (13)
“…two suspects are in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives was discovered around the George Washington Bridge … The FBI … says enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge.”

It was reported the van contained tonnes of explosives (14).

What’s really intriguing is that ABC’s 20/20 (15), the New York Post (16), and the New Jersey Bergen Record (17) all clearly and unambiguously reported that a white van with Israelis was intercepted on a ramp near Route 3, which leads directly to the Lincoln Tunnel.

But the Jerusalem Post, Israeli National News (Arutz Sheva) (18), and Yediot America, (19) all reported, just as clearly and unambiguously, that a white van with Israelis was stopped on a ramp leading to the George Washington Bridge, which is several miles north of the Lincoln Tunnel.

It appears as if there may actually have been two white vans involved, one stopped on each crossing. This would not only explain the conflicting reports as to the actual location of the arrests, but would also explain how so many credible eye-witnesses all saw celebrating “middle-easterners” in a white van in so many different locations. It also explains why the New York Post and Steve Gordon (lawyer for the 5 Israelis) originally described how three Israelis were arrested but later increased the total to five.

Perhaps one van was meant to drop off a bomb while the other was meant to pick up the first set of drivers while re-crossing back into New Jersey? If a van was to be used as a parked time-bomb on the GW Bridge, then certainly the drivers would need to have a “get-away van” to pick them up and escape. And notice how the van (or vans) stayed away from the third major crossing -the Holland Tunnel- which was where the police had originally been directed to by that anti-Palestinian 9-1-1 “mystery caller”. A classic misdirection play.

From there, the story gets becomes even more suspicious. The Israelis worked for a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. An American employee of Urban Moving Systems told the The Record of New Jersey that a majority of his co-workers were Israelis and they were joking about the attacks.

The employee, who declined to give his name said: “I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me.” These guys were like, “Now America knows what we go through.” (20)

A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System’s Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and fled the country for Israel. He was in such a hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System’s customers were left with their furniture stranded in storage facilities (21).

Suter’s departure was abrupt, leaving behind coffee cups, sandwiches, cell phones and computers strewn on office tables and thousands of dollars of goods in storage. Suter was later placed on the same FBI suspect list as 9/11 lead hijacker Mohammed Atta and other hijackers and suspected al-Qaeda sympathizers, suggesting that U.S. authorities felt Suter may have known something about the attacks. (22)

The Jewish weekly The Forward reported that the FBI finally concluded that at least two of the detained Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and that Urban Moving Systems, the ostensible employer of the five Israelis, was a front operation. This was confirmed by two former CIA officers, and they noted that movers’ vans are a common intelligence cover. (23). The Israelis were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. (24)

“There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11.” (25)

Several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, “The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.” (26)

How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?

It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents – here’s the most logical scenario:
1. The Israeli “movers” cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.

2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.

3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.

4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALL bridges and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils the Israelis’ misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day torture.

5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same dragnet as many other Arabs.

6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department “higher-ups” are able to gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.

Osama bin Laden was immediately blamed for the 9/11 attacks even though he had no previous record of doing anything on this scale. Immediately after the Flight 11 hit World Trade Center 1, CIA Director George Tenet said “You know, this has bin Laden’s fingerprints all over it.” (27)

The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection. Immediately following the 9-11 attacks the media was filled with stories linking the attacks to bin Laden. TV talking-heads, “experts”, and scribblers of every stripe spoon-fed a gullible American public a steady diet of the most outrageous propaganda imaginable.

We were told that the reason bin Laden attacked the USA was because he hates our “freedom” and “democracy”. The Muslims were “medieval” and they wanted to destroy us because they envied our wealth, were still bitter about the Crusades, and were offended by Britney Spears shaking her tits and ass all over the place!

But bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the 9-11 attacks. The BBC published bin Laden’s statement of denial in which he said:

“I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. … The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States.” (28)

You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast did you?
[A] number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden’s capabilities. “This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he’s running this operation?” one C.I.A. official asked. “It’s so huge. He couldn’t have done it alone.” A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. (29)

Bin Laden is not named as the perpetrator of 9/11 by the FBI:

When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page (30), [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” (31)
“So we’ve never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming” – Dick Cheney. (32)

To date, the only shred of “evidence” to be uncovered against bin Laden is a barely audible fuzzy amateur video that the Pentagon just happened to find “lying around” in Afghanistan. How very convenient, and how very fake. (33)

There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda “terrorist network” to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.

“I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing — although that was part of it — by a sovereign foreign government … It will become public at some point when it’s turned over to the archives, but that’s 20 or 30 years from now” – Senator Bob Graham. (34)

If the sovereign foreign government mentioned by Senator Graham was an enemy of the United States the “compelling evidence” would not be kept secret for 20+ years.

One final point; at 09:40 on 9-11 it was reported that the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attacks (35). This claim was immediately denied by the DFLP leader Qais abu Leila who said it had always opposed “terror attacks on civilian targets, especially outside the occupied territories.” (36)

Why would a Palestinian organisation comprising of less than 500 people (37) make the suicidal move of immediately claiming responsibility for the attacks?
Sharon and the other Israeli leaders aspire to fulfil what the goals of the political Zionist movement have been since its origin a century ago: to turn all of historic Palestine into an exclusively Jewish state. A central tenet of the Zionist ideology is expressed in the racist slogan, “A land without people for a people without a land.” (38)

The implication of Palestinians in the 9/11 attacks would have handed Zionists a golden opportunity to achieve the above because all Palestinians would have been labelled terrorists.
“Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.”
US official quoted in Carl Cameron’s Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

[sushigirl]

Well, I'll be darned.  

[WaltDisney]

poison the well tactic.

Well, I'll be darned. 

Me too

The Judens come out of the woodwork to smear and poison.
Duke has hit hard with his book and vids lately.
So he is targeted a little more vociferously.

[FrontierJustice]

Duke has hit hard with his book and vids lately.
So he is targeted a little more vociferously.

Walt, you don't find it odd that after all this time, Duke maintains that Arabs perped 9/11?

The best way for fakes to get around in this movement is by telling 90% less-significant truths, and 10% very significant lies.

[WaltDisney]

Walt, you don't find it odd that after all this time, Duke maintains that Arabs perped 9/11?

He doesnt and he never did.
His method is the process of elimination.
I just pasted an entire treatise from his website....its self explanatory. Did you read it?
I will try again, half of it this time.

The Jewish weekly The Forward reported that the FBI finally concluded that at least two of the detained Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and that Urban Moving Systems, the ostensible employer of the five Israelis, was a front operation. This was confirmed by two former CIA officers, and they noted that movers’ vans are a common intelligence cover. (23). The Israelis were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. (24)

“There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11.” (25)

Several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, “The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.” (26)

How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?
It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents – here’s the most logical scenario:
1. The Israeli “movers” cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.

2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.

3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.

4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALL bridges and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils the Israelis’ misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day torture.

5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same dragnet as many other Arabs.

6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department “higher-ups” are able to gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.

Osama bin Laden was immediately blamed for the 9/11 attacks even though he had no previous record of doing anything on this scale. Immediately after the Flight 11 hit World Trade Center 1, CIA Director George Tenet said “You know, this has bin Laden’s fingerprints all over it.” (27)

The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection. Immediately following the 9-11 attacks the media was filled with stories linking the attacks to bin Laden. TV talking-heads, “experts”, and scribblers of every stripe spoon-fed a gullible American public a steady diet of the most outrageous propaganda imaginable.

We were told that the reason bin Laden attacked the USA was because he hates our “freedom” and “democracy”. The Muslims were “medieval” and they wanted to destroy us because they envied our wealth, were still bitter about the Crusades, and were offended by Britney Spears shaking her tits and ass all over the place!

But bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the 9-11 attacks. The BBC published bin Laden’s statement of denial in which he said:

“I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. … The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States.” (28)

You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast did you?
[A] number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden’s capabilities. “This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he’s running this operation?” one C.I.A. official asked. “It’s so huge. He couldn’t have done it alone.” A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. (29)

Bin Laden is not named as the perpetrator of 9/11 by the FBI:

When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page (30), [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” (31)
“So we’ve never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming” – Dick Cheney. (32)

To date, the only shred of “evidence” to be uncovered against bin Laden is a barely audible fuzzy amateur video that the Pentagon just happened to find “lying around” in Afghanistan. How very convenient, and how very fake. (33)

There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda “terrorist network” to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.

“I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing — although that was part of it — by a sovereign foreign government … It will become public at some point when it’s turned over to the archives, but that’s 20 or 30 years from now” – Senator Bob Graham. (34)

If the sovereign foreign government mentioned by Senator Graham was an enemy of the United States the “compelling evidence” would not be kept secret for 20+ years.

One final point; at 09:40 on 9-11 it was reported that the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attacks (35). This claim was immediately denied by the DFLP leader Qais abu Leila who said it had always opposed “terror attacks on civilian targets, especially outside the occupied territories.” (36)

Why would a Palestinian organisation comprising of less than 500 people (37) make the suicidal move of immediately claiming responsibility for the attacks?
Sharon and the other Israeli leaders aspire to fulfil what the goals of the political Zionist movement have been since its origin a century ago: to turn all of historic Palestine into an exclusively Jewish state. A central tenet of the Zionist ideology is expressed in the racist slogan, “A land without people for a people without a land.” (38)

The implication of Palestinians in the 9/11 attacks would have handed Zionists a golden opportunity to achieve the above because all Palestinians would have been labelled terrorists.
“Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.”
US official quoted in Carl Cameron’s Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring

I consider Dr. Duke as asset, and until I see different, that is my postition.

[FrontierJustice]

If you're going to go Christian on this issue then maybe you can answer the Pharisees when they asked Jesus what he was doing with the sinners?

Whatever reasons Bollyn had for going there I suspect he saw quickly enough what lovely people he had gotten hooked up with.

I'm being sincere when I ask what Bollyn was doing hopping around the middle east and hooking up with Israeli women. Because so far all I've heard from him about it is "I'm a Christian", and that's that. I'm not saying he wasn't there for genuine reasons, what I'm saying is so far I find that story oddly elusive. I'd be glad to read more about it if someone's got a link.

Re: the Jesus comparison ... I highly doubt Christ had a relationship with any Pharisees comparable to Bollyn's

[WaltDisney]

I'm being sincere when I ask what Bollyn was doing hopping around the middle east and hooking up with Israeli women. Because so far all I've heard from him about it is "I'm a Christian", and that's that. I'm not saying he wasn't there for genuine reasons, what I'm saying is so far I find that story oddly elusive. I'd be glad to read more about it if someone's got a link.

In his defense, he mightve simply fallen in love before becoming Jew wise.  It happens.
My very best friend is married to a 1/2 Jewess, shes secular, non practicing.  Nice person, he loves her and she him.
But he is now Jew wise, after the fact, hasnt changed their relationship at all.

Got me thinking at times, we could simply breed them out.....  

Bollyn does good work, is a good looking guy, and I cant place it, but something just doesnt seem quite right with him.
DBS had awful things to say about their visit and his actions in person.
So many people pokin hornets nests makes it complicated, spiders weave webs.
I just try to judge the information and educate myself, thats all you can do.

Duke speaks tongue in cheek alot. Ive seen his vids and read his articles. When you read him, read the whole piece.
He pokes fun of US Foreign Policy, Israeli attachment and its curse, making it palatable.
Then he implicated the official story new story, MSM and The Mossad.

Screaming J*E*W this and J*EW that,  is not a way to garner an audience of educated people.
My own family has practically written me off, because thats how I talk. Its not digestible for alot of folks, sadly.
The truth isnt polite.
Trained monkeys

[FrontierJustice]

How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?
It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents – here’s the most logical scenario:
1. The Israeli “movers” cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.

I understand that, but the incident with the 5 mossad goobers on the ground still has too much of an effect of leaving people scratching their heads, while when you tell people about the IDF captain sitting in seat 9B on Flight 11, their eyes bug out. The 5 dancing Israelis line works in too much lock-step with the whole "Israelis were spying on the Arab terrorists and just 'allowed' 9/11 to happen because they wanted empathy" misdirection.

"We were there to document the event" -- as revealing as that statement is -- can be too easily explained away. Anyone can say "what if they were there for some other purpose (like trailing the terrorists), and saw what happened, and moved over to that area in the spur of the moment?" and then it's just mush. Then we might ask what about the hi-fives and gloating? Well since they were confirmed mossad, of course it doesn't surprise anybody. Remember, that clip came from a jewish documentary 'dispelling the idea' that jews were behind 9/11. It's a kosher clip.

Jews don't care about what's said about them and 9/11 as long as it doesn't involve anything that leads to any evidence being witnessed -- like having access to listen to the complete recording of Betty Ong's approx 22-min witness testimony before she died, or viewing the boarding videos of any of the 4 flights that day.
(The two Ong tapes were edited down for the public to approx 8 min total, minus a 2 min overlap between the two. So only 6 min total were released, leaving approx 16 min remaining of vital evidence still yet unreleased to the public)

FrontierJustice

Walt, you don't find it odd that after all this time, Duke maintains that Arabs perped 9/11?

Walt Disney

He doesnt and he never did.

Have you watched this video? Watch the first 4 minutes
http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php/topic,666.msg5403.html#msg5403

Direct quotes from Duke in the video:
"our support for Israel had a major role in causing 9/11"
"The primary motivation of those who attack us is because the American government supports Israel's conquest, ethnic cleansing, occupation, torture and murder of the Palestinian people - as shown in the recent carnage in Gaza."

What Duke is really saying (forget all his preaching to the choir for a second), based on process of elimination:
a) "Israel is our friend" (whether we like it or not -- which is bs in itself, our politicians claim this lie every other day) and that's why Arabs/Muslims hate us
b) "It's America's fault" for supporting their so-called 'friends' (which doesn't convince those who need convincing, in fact it turns them back around to the Israelis because it means being characterized as bailing on your 'friends' and being a coward due to pressure)
c) "Israelis had nothing to do with 9/11 directly" -- that they're innocent of the crime other than 'being in a relationship' with America
d) "Arabs/Muslims are the terrorists" and they just 'hate our relationship'

Duke acting indignant about what he's saying is besides the point - you have to make it convincing, otherwise you're had. A statement is a statement, and people walk away with the bulk of their impressions based statements.

[FrankDialogue]

Duke is as Sephardic as James Traficante, this is a poison the well tactic.

This comes right off his website:

Bollyn is top notch, maybe the best regarding 911, especially on background of the various perps, the money angle, background on the handling of the various lawsuits and the judicial aspects...He names names and puts it all into context.

Duke's work speaks for itself, and his defense of White people and their culture is, may I say, scholarly but plain spoken.
Duke has written books, has a great website, and his critics are those who have a hard time putting together a single paragraph that makes sense.

[LoneWolf]

Sounds like DD is going along with the 'blowback' theory, the one favored by another part-time truther, Ron Paul.

The latest invective against the wide-awake - we all be 'truthers' nowadays... as if wanting to know the truth is an aberration. I suppose in the world of the blind the one with open eyes IS an aberration.

But let's take truth where we find it and not embrace the whole based on one man's suppositions and/or speculations. Bits & pieces...

[WaltDisney]

I think DD flirts with the Blowback theory.  But it seems hypothetical.

His videos and writings have this attachment, while in the body of the text is more hard hittingdirect Judaic culpability for the attacks, such as I attached from his website.

I wont defend the man, but I can say that his 1 video alone has 135,000 views.

He is diplomatic and speaks articulately, as a former state senator. 

He has hit Israel hard, and yes Id like more body blows from him on direct Israeli involvement, just like the rest of you.

I do consider him an asset, not a liability,  until I see something different from him.

[LoneWolf]

I do consider him an asset, not a liability,  until I see something different from him.

I do as well. I'm pragmatic about these things... I listen to them all, watch the videos, analyze the words and draw conclusions where the factual data is sound (granted - IMO) and reserve my opinion if the facts are not all in. Arguments that pit one speculation against another are a good exercise in speculation and not much more.

Where I draw the line (in logic) is at that point where ignorance is clearly deliberate and intended to bolster an argument that would not survive if the facts were acknowledged. This seems to be a crucial point - should I believe that David Duke or Ron Paul do not avail themselves of the leap in information technology since the we turned millenium corner? Is Ron Paul so busy he can't login occasionally or does all his info come through 'advisers'?

I think that everyone needs to be careful that 'popular opinion' is instilled, not distilled. To cater to the masses is perhaps good politics but invariably becomes counter productive. Witness Debra Medina recently... her opinion, or lack of it, lost her the more skeptical among us (not that I support politicians in any way, shape or form). It is those skeptics who move the masses in the first place, a fact seldom acknowledged by a media that thinks that instilling propaganda is their bailiwick. In turn the masses are polled incessantly so that the political types can set their sails accordingly.

[solmax]

Duke is as Sephardic as James Traficante, this is a poison the well tactic.

This comes right off his website:

That is definitely from Mike Rivero's site.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html