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Canaan is identified as a Black man and Blacks as an inferior people only in the Gemara, Midrash and later writings of the rabbis, not in the Bible. The rabbinic account of the malediction against Ham stipulates that Ham's son Canaan, and all Canaan's issue, are forever fated to suffer perpetual slavery and black skin without the possibility of their condition ever being ameliorated. It is this anti-Old Testament rabbinic gloss that influenced those fifteen century Renaissance humanists who had crossed over into the forbidden territory of the Talmud, Midrash and Kabbalah as part of a supposedly enlightened act. It is an irony of history that as a result of this supposedly progressive development by celebrated avant-garde Renaissance thinkers, the abominable view of Black people of a congenitally-determined race of perpetual slaves, became entrenched among the western liberal intelligensia for at least 300 years. Contrary to the lie Schorsch retails in Jews and Blacks in the Early Modern World, ("Few Jewish thinkers understood Ham's curse to initiate his or her progeny's blackness"), the classic rabbinic texts hold that the punishment visited upon Ham was the transformation of his son Canaan and all Canaan's progeny into Blacks: "...therefore your seed will be ugly and dark-skinned" ("kaur ve' mefuham"). Some texts hold that Ham himself was thus transformed. Rabbi Hiyya said: Ham and dog copulated on the Ark, therefore Ham came forth dark-skinned."
There is a preponderance of authoritative rabbinic texts like the preceding, differing only in the extent to which the lecherous rabbinic authors fantasize about the nature of the sexual transgression they attribute to Ham with regard to Noah; the intimate details of the act of sodomy which they say Ham committed upon a dog while on board Noah's ark, and a sex perversion with a raven that is too filthy to recount here.
The Biblical account in Genesis chapter 9 concerns Noah's having drank too much and of Ham brazenly drawing attention to his fathers nakedness. There is nothing in Genesis ch. 9 that points to a subtext of sexual perversion, or that Ham, or his son Canaan, were transformed into dark-skinned or Black men. In so far as Christians strictly adhere to the Old Testament account of Noah and his sons, no inference concerning perpetual enslavement of Black people could be drawn. The notion of a Biblical mandate for Black slavery was transmitted through rabbinic interpreters and commentators  who falsified the Old Testament text, an observation Christ first made about the Pharisees in Mark 7 and Matthew 15. We conclude with this risible  pronouncement from Columbia University's Jonathan Schorsch: '... the 'Jewish' source of the curse on Ham remains an invention of twentieth-century Christian polemicists." 

Michael Hoffman---Judaism Discovered
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If it weren't for jews, there would be virtually no blacks in the Americas, Europe or Asia today.  And without blacks,  there would be much fewer jews in those places too.   
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Agreed. Unlike the immigrants who sacrificed, fought, and escaped tyranny, corruption, and persecution to live a free and prosperous life in the land of opportunity, most africans were brought here against their will to serve joos. Their indoctrination into western culture was slavery, not as free people.
Master/slave is what they know, it's who they are.     
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Europeans immigrated to the Americas for a chance to better their conditions through a greater freedom to work the land.  Your own labor was part of the arrangement.  Enter financial enterprise.  At first there were white indentured servants.  The promise of a better life in America depended upon a ship by which to get there, the cost of which was to be paid back with labor.  Of course, this was exploited.  When the jews caught onto to the value of labor in the colonies, they financed black slave trade, which shortly created conditions that required ownership of labor to maintain a commercially viable agricultural operation.  But even if land owners chose not to own slaves of any color, the ships were going to off-load their human cargo for permanent residency in the new world anyway, as they were not financed for the return trip.  Basically, there were two choices: 1) own slaves, 2) don't own them and watch them die or struggle to survive on their own in a land they knew nothing about.  Taking them in was probably the more moral choice.         

From here:  http://www.geocities.com/nai_cilh/servitude.html
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If a servant worked their full indenture, they received freedom dues, which were based on Hebrew law from the Old Testament. (Deut. 15:12-15) Many colonies also granted land to the newly freed servant.
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What happens to a black academic when he speaks the truth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(professor)
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Interesting, thanks.
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Here's what the 'Rambam' Maimonides had to say on the subject, from his 'Guide For the Perplexed'...

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The people who are abroad are all those that have no religion, neither one based on speculation nor one received by tradition. Such are the extreme Turks that wander about in the north, the Kushites [negroes] who live in the south, and those in our country who are like these. I consider these as irrational beings, and not as human beings; they are below mankind, but above monkeys, since they have the form and shape of man, and a mental faculty above that of the monkey.



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Expose them and the persecution begins. Race is not the issue, Finklestein is proof of that.
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The process of dissimulation through the substitution of code words (Kush for Negro and Kush for goy in the Soncino edition of the Talmud) is a feature of numerous texts of the religion of Judaism.
Judaic scholar Harold Brackman in his 1977 Ph.D. dissertation indicated that the source of the racial taint attached to Ham and his son Canaan and their descendants, is the Talmud, not the Bible: "The opening centuries of the Christian era constituted an interregnum in the Native African record of historical achievement separating Cush's era of ancient prominence from the medieval accomplishments of the great Negro states of the Sudan. These same centuries formed the seedbed of rabbinic Judaism. And this fateful coincidence goes far toward explaining why they also formed such fertile soil for the growth of Jewish lore demeaning the Negro. The most famous of these anti-Negro legends cluster about Ham and Noah's cursing of Canaan...There is no denying that the Babylonian Talmud was the first source to read a Negrophobic content into the episode by stressing Canaan's fraternal connections with Cush...The Talmud glosses of the episode added the stigma of blackness to the fate of enslavement that Noah predicted for Ham's progeny."
Brackman cited what he called an "important" Talmudic "version of the myth":'Ham is told by his outraged father that because you have abused me in the darkness of night, your children shall be born black and ugly; because you have twisted your head to cause me embarrassment, they shall have kinky hair and red eyes; because your lips jested at my expense theirs shall swell; and because you neglected my nakedness, they shall go naked.'

Michael Hoffman---Judaism Discovered 
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