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Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« on: February 21, 2009, 10:57:42 AM »
Gentile not a brother or a neighbor

BT Sanhedrin 52B: 'A non-Jew is not considered a neighbor.'
Rashi wrote on the beraitha which appears in Sanhedrin 57a, s.v. yisrael b'goy mutar: 'For "You shall not exploit your neighbor" is written, and it is not written 'a gentile'...
Bava Metzia 111b: 'And since the first Tanna learned the law from the phrase 'his brother,' what does he do with the phrase 'his neighbor'? That phrase comes to teach something in his view also, as stated in the beraitha: 'his neighbor'-- and not a gentile. But isn't it appropriate to learn that a gentile is excluded from the phrase 'his brother'? One (phrase) comes to permit exploiting him (a gentile) and the other comes to permit robbing him, as he holds that robbery of a gentile is permitted.'
And thus it is determined in the commentary attributed to the Ran on Tractate Sanhedrin 57a. The Rama also ruled this way in Even Ha'ezer, paragraph 28, section 1, and also the Maharsha in 'Yam shel Shlomo' on Bava Kama, paragraph 20 (emphasis supplied). The wording for this ruling on the permissibility of stealing from a gentile and how gentiles do not qualify as a brother or neighbor is corroborated in Dikdukei Sofrim, see sections 40 and 50; and in the quotations in the novellae of Nachmanides, the Ran, and Tosaphot HaRosh.

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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2009, 11:56:50 AM »
2008 Talmud Update

'Leolum Tekach' ('Always Take') Folio 33b :'The question debated is: If a neighbor, while viewing a computer record of the monies of the Akun ('Idol Worshipper') notices a substantial sum, and has the ability to hack the computer for the purpose of transferring said funds, permitted to do so?'
Rav Hyman Pleshskin:   No...For it is written "Thou shalt not covet...'...However, as the words regarding covetting refer to a 'neighbor', the funds transfer would be allowed as long as there is the strong probability that this will not cause the Akun to injure a 'neighbor'.
Rav Yosi ben Ba'al:    Yes...For it is written 'thou shalt eat of the fat of the land'.


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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2009, 01:35:06 PM »
Indeed..
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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2009, 01:41:42 PM »
Madoff is authorized theft...if the rabbis didn't sanction it, 'a lone nut' would have settled the case for world Jewry.

It's not really theft though...just a more sophisticated version of grandpapa's 3 card Monte during the Depression.


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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2009, 01:55:57 PM »
It's a swindle for sure. What's worse is the fact that people are still falling for it.
They've wiped out most of the pension funds are getting ready to move on bank accounts and still all you hear about are the worries of the "investors" who if scrutinized close enough would be revealed as at least co-conspirators in this criminal enterprise.
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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2009, 02:28:37 PM »
They're driving down equities now to create the buy-in points.  The plan is to launder the stolen money in the equity markets and end up as majority owner of global industry.  They'll probably get away with it, but there will be revolts once people see who the new rich are.
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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2009, 02:35:38 PM »
I don't think they plan to leave this land intact, but...if they do, the Chinese will be recruited as the frontmen money for Jew confiscations of wealth.

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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2009, 02:38:58 PM »
you bought Judaism Discovered? Is it worth it?

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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2009, 02:48:01 PM »
Yes it is.
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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2009, 03:57:02 PM »
The thing about the Chinese and the jews, is that both now think the other is working for them.  Fortunately for the Chinese, the jews no longer own the Russians, and their American puppets are flopping around on the strings.
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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2009, 04:00:03 PM »
I plan on buying it. Does it have lots of colouring areas and pop-up pictures? ;)

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Re: Does Wall Street Theft Have Talmud Authorization?
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2009, 05:04:58 AM »
This copy does not but that may be a good idea. All generations need to be made aware of the "menace".
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