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« Reply #140 on: April 05, 2011, 04:06:01 AM »
That is, don't go way off topic with religion.


right, dont go off topic with religion anything else is fine...

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They could do that easily enough by uncapping the oil right here in North America. Having monopolized oil pretty much it is their main lever of control. They can scapegoat the middle east, which they do, as well as using the threat to oil supplies and increased prices to keep the sheep in line and as a steady supply of cannon fodder.

how is this on topic unless dresden is in the middle east or had oil...

you might argue WWII was about oil...but I cant argue its spiritual in nature

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If you want to discuss religion take it to religion & philosophy where it belongs.
I want to discuss why a city in germany was destroyed to dehumanize it and break its will...war is a physical attribute made manifest by a spiritual conflict which then religion is the point...

but as moderator if you have to enforce your bias against religion be fair enough and at least give notice as to where you dump it

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Not every one of us is enamored with discussing how many angels can dance on the head of  a pin.
cute.... and if you regulate religion or spirituality to angels and pins please consider another option which is to ignore it as anyone else would and the thread would die...

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Don't even get me started on 'nonsensical'...


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« Reply #141 on: April 05, 2011, 05:20:17 AM »



Please talk him into it and help him do it.

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« Reply #142 on: April 05, 2011, 07:49:27 AM »
the church you dont agree with Walt...stop dividing from it...

but the catholic church continues to rule...and as a tool uses others as tools too...all for the NWO...
 JOOS brought all this on by riding in on the backs of catholics...the christian gift horse was full of joos...

without the mask of christianity JOOS would not have made it into europe but rome used religious lies and distortions to control physically...what rome could not do with the sword it managed to do with altered JOOISH texts and ideology....WHICH JOOS THEMSELVES TRIED TO USE TO ESTABLISH A UNIVERSAL KINGDOM (even the disciples of christ hoped He would do so but God's kingdom remains spiritual)....

the vatican learned representing one thing and doing another...the tactic still works

The Church today is a bad parody of itself.  It rules nothing, it has no credibility, Jews have seen to it.

Jews never rode on the backs of Catholics...we Expelled them from Spain and Portugal and 108 other Catholic Nation States.
Most Jews left WITH Muslims, where they sought refuge and where it was given.

The only texts altered have been done with the Protestant and Jew texts ala Scofield and King James.  Thus the words and entire meanings and translations like JEWS became a word, when it never was.

Jews were Already IN Europe, they founded trade routes and were good at it.
They didnt need Catholics, we didnt need or want them.
We kept them locked in ghettos,  and the world was safe.

Luthers' actions and those of the French Revolution,  freed them from Said Ghettos and the world hasnt been the same since.

Argue all you want,  but its the facts..

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« Reply #143 on: April 05, 2011, 04:11:14 PM »
Jews were Already IN Europe, they founded trade routes and were good at it.
They didnt need Catholics, we didnt need or want them.
We kept them locked in ghettos,  and the world was safe.

   This ghetto thing is misunderstood. There were depots on most trade routes. They were usually manned by members of the merchant's groups. They provided stables and inns for the caravans. In order to encourage trade and the business and taxes it generated, the local authorities allowed these depots to be enclosed and self-governing. These were the ghettos. I seem to remember having read that in the 1930's a self-governing Jewish trade enclave in Germany was forced to come under German national law. I think it was left over from the Hanseatic days. The "ghettos" permitted the Jews to live under their religious and tribal laws. Other groups of traders assimilated and did not remain arrogantly aloof from the local residents.


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Re: * The Bombing Of Dresden
« Reply #144 on: April 05, 2011, 06:51:05 PM »
right, dont go off topic with religion anything else is fine...

You are full of it. It isn't all right and we are doing our best to stop the undisplined from doing it. If you can't abide staying on topic take a hike. This argument over off topic posts is getting old... fast.
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Re: * The Bombing Of Dresden
« Reply #145 on: April 05, 2011, 07:02:28 PM »
   This ghetto thing is misunderstood. There were depots on most trade routes. They were usually manned by members of the merchant's groups. They provided stables and inns for the caravans. In order to encourage trade and the business and taxes it generated, the local authorities allowed these depots to be enclosed and self-governing. These were the ghettos. I seem to remember having read that in the 1930's a self-governing Jewish trade enclave in Germany was forced to come under German national law. I think it was left over from the Hanseatic days. The "ghettos" permitted the Jews to live under their religious and tribal laws. Other groups of traders assimilated and did not remain arrogantly aloof from the local residents.

Good point.  A jew ghetto was like a port city, a sleazy place where money changed hands.  They are everywhere now.
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« Reply #146 on: April 05, 2011, 07:32:07 PM »
   This ghetto thing is misunderstood. There were depots on most trade routes. They were usually manned by members of the merchant's groups. They provided stables and inns for the caravans. In order to encourage trade and the business and taxes it generated, the local authorities allowed these depots to be enclosed and self-governing. These were the ghettos. I seem to remember having read that in the 1930's a self-governing Jewish trade enclave in Germany was forced to come under German national law. I think it was left over from the Hanseatic days. The "ghettos" permitted the Jews to live under their religious and tribal laws. Other groups of traders assimilated and did not remain arrogantly aloof from the local residents.

Very true, and our Jewish run universities always misrepresent this part of European history. Watch this video at the 15 min mark.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/ascentofmoney/featured/the-ascent-of-money-episode-1-from-bullion-to-bubbles/44/
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« Reply #147 on: April 06, 2011, 03:57:35 AM »
   local authorities allowed these depots to be enclosed and self-governing.

right Joos dont want to mix with us...and prefer to live "aloof"...Red sheild himself lived in frankfurt in a contained environment better to hide and store his precious stones from prying eyes...but its the glorious church who forced them for our protection...ha ha ha

"Between 800 and 1100 there were 1.5 million Jews in Christian Europe. They were fortunate in not being part of the feudal system as serfs or knights, thus were spared the oppression and constant warfare that made life miserable for most Christians. Unlike lay Christians, most Jews were literate; they were cleaner and thus healthier than Christians; and they were able to live under Jewish law, which was much fairer and humane.[5]

In relations with the Christian society, they were protected by kings, princes and even bishops, because of the crucial services they provided in three areas: financial, administrative and as doctors. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_and_Judaism_in_Europe

thank god the church kept us ignorrant and poor but allowed the joos to live amongst us...somebody had to assist the nobility which where descendant from little jooish baby jesus...

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« Reply #148 on: April 06, 2011, 04:07:52 AM »
The Church today is a bad parody of itself.  It rules nothing, it has no credibility, Jews have seen to it
It controls the souls of over 1.5 billion believers...

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we Expelled them from Spain and Portugal and 108 other Catholic Nation States.
Most Jews left WITH Muslims, where they sought refuge and where it was given.
your history begins in 1492? ha ha ha...and how does transplanting the parasite benefit? and to the new world...which was claimed catholic....

btw relocating them closer to orthodox russia was brilliant...to do the ground work for communism...which came out of catholic swiss and munich...and led to bombing of protestant dresden to keep this on topic
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- * The Bombing Of Dresden
« Reply #149 on: February 26, 2013, 04:43:38 PM »
Dresden - Firebombing 1945 ~ Dresden was utterly destroyed.

This presentation is in German, but the pictures tell the story.




It had only a tank optics factory on it's outer suburbs.

ANY other claim was tossed out long ago. There was NO poison gas factory, NO munitions etc...

What was the purpose of the raid then?

Surely not just to kill Germans? Well, what else was the reason?

Even Churchill himself warned that there were too many bombings going on so WHO was giving the orders to utterly destroy Germany? "Who" had Hitler upset that not man nor woman, infant or suckling was to be spared the horrors of completely unescessary Area Bombing of civilian areas?

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« Reply #150 on: February 27, 2013, 08:28:11 AM »
I met a girl, a German tourist, up at the Grand Canyon a couple of years ago. She was from Dresden. Her parents lived through it.  They think that a million people were killed. It was a true holocaust. There are no survivors merrily collecting every form of reparation known to man while sitting on their fat tukhases in Miami Beach or West Hollywood, CA or Brighton Beach, Brooklyn.  That's because they are dead. 

"You guys burnt the place down, turned it into a single column of flame. More people died there in the firestorm, in that one big flame, than died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined." --Kurt Vonnegut, Jr
 
On the evening of February 13, 1945, an orgy of genocide and barbarism began against a defenseless German city, one of the greatest cultural centers of northern Europe. Within less than 14 hours not only was it reduced to flaming ruins, but an estimated one-third of its inhabitants, possibly as many as a half a million, had perished in what was the worst single event massacre of all time.
 
Toward the end of World War II, as Allied planes rained death and destruction over Germany, the old Saxon city of Dresden lay like an island of tranquillity amid desolation..."



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« Reply #151 on: February 27, 2013, 10:17:37 AM »
"You guys burnt the place down, turned it into a single column of flame. More people died there in the firestorm, in that one big flame, than died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined." --Kurt Vonnegut, Jr

Reading that when I was young set me investigating into Dresden and the war generally. I read most of his books that dealt with a lot of 'out there' concepts but not in any way absurd. He dealt with many levels of consciousness with a touch of levity.
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