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Offline FrankDialogue

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Re: Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin:
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2009, 11:20:22 AM »
You make a few points, but your perspective is skewed and YOU need to educate yourself...Now, what is the saying :'Nature abhors a vacuum'...The United States was dominated for many years by the WASP establishment, with the Jews playing roles behind the scenes in terms of finance & intrigue...With the disintegration of the WASP ruling class, the Jews were positioned to step in, more openly, and they did...Now, who permitted that?...The average person has little control over these elite games...But you would have thought that certain American corporate interests would have had some loyalty to the country that made them rich, and realized we were being 'overtaken' by a force not loyal to our country, except for making money from it's people.
Now this 'Moses was a Jew'...Where does it say 'Moses was a Jew' in the Bible?...Please show me...Where does it say Abraham, Issac or Jacob were 'Jews'?...Please show me...Abraham was an Iraqi, in present day terms/identification...The Jews cling to this untruth because theirs is a racial/tribal religion, and they falsely think they have a physical lineage to these Patriarchs...Could these men be described as Hebrews...This is debatable, and probably no definite conclusions can be drawn...If 'Hebrew' is derived from the Biblical person, Eber, maybe...But Hebrew, likewise Israelite, is not the same as Jew...Today's 'Jews' never sopke Hebrew...Their ancestors never lived in Palestine...They spoke Yiddish as their 'Jewish' tongue...Hebrew was made the official language of Israel for political reasons, because the use of Yiddish by the Jews who settled in Palestine would have made them seem even more alien to the Arabs already there, and because the Jews wanted 'to get back to their roots'...Perhaps they should have gone to Babylon instead...I won't even discuss Christ with you because you reject Him for no reason...As for your personal spiritual journey, I wish you luck...But do not smear another person's faith unless you have some real understanding of it...Peace to you.

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Re: Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin:
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2009, 03:32:08 AM »
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Approximately 3000 Catholic priests and clerics were killed in either camps or by Werhmacht forces or Einzatzgruppen commandos

Says you who were not there.


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...Are you defending Nazi actions, and for what reason?...


I am defending brave courageous Christian people who fought the Bolsheviks and protected their mortal enemies the jews from you canard smears. Yes.

I know you won't believe Poles telling you differnent, so I'll quote a Wehrmacht soldier for you.  Clergy, as well as other community leaders were targeted by Germans and their friends and allies, the Soviets.  I'd be happy to explain to you if you like.  Anyway, back to the brave, courageous, German Christians fighting bolshevism.



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Mathias Schenk, an 18-year old Belgian served as Sturmpionier (assault engineer) in Wehrmacht during the suppression of the Warsaw Uprising in 1944. Members of his unit were assigned to various SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger platoons as demolition engineers.

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`My second penitentiary watch was for a priest. We blew up the back door to a monastery `“ very heavy, they lead to a cellar. The monastery, a huge building near the Old Town, was already very damaged by bombs and grenades. Two of us jumped inside. There was a priest standing in front of us. He held a wafer and a chalice in his hands. Maybe this was an impulse, I don't know. We genuflected and took the communion. Then a third from our group ran in and did the same. SS-men stormed in and the usual shots, screams, and groans could be heard. The nuns were in habits. A few hours later I saw that priest in Dirlewangerers' hands. They drank wine from the chalice, the wafers were scattered and broken. They were pissing on a cross that was leaning against the wall. They were torturing the priest: he had a bloody face, torn cassock. We took that priest from them, it was an impulse. They were surprised, but so drunk, that they didn't know what was happening. The next day they also didn't remember what happened. We passed the priest to our battalion. I didn't hear about him anymore. But on the road we meet Fels. For the priest I got a solitary guard duty on a bridge.

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`I was setting explosives under big doors, somewhere in Old Town. From inside we heard Nicht schießen! Nicht schießen! (don't shoot). The doors opened and a nurse appeared with a tiny white flag. We went inside with fixed bayonets. A huge hall with beds and mattresses on the floor. Wounded were everywhere. Besides Poles there were also wounded Germans. They begged the SS-men not to kill the Poles. A Polish officer, a doctor and 15 Polish Red Cross nurses surrendered the military hospital to us. The Dirlewangerers were following us. I hid one of the nurses behind the doors and managed to lock them. I heard after the war that she has survived. The SS-men killed all the wounded. They were breaking their heads with rifle butts. The wounded Germans were screaming and crying in despair. After that, the Dirlewangerers ran after the nurses; they were ripping clothes off them. We were driven out for guard duty. We heard women screaming. In the evening, on Adolph Hitler's Square [now Piłsudzki Square] there was a roar as loud as during boxing fights. So I and my friend climbed the wall to see what was happening there. Soldiers of all units: Wehrmacht, SS, Kaminski's Cossacks [ RONA ], boys from Hitlerjugend; whistles, exhortations. Dirlewanger stood with his men and laughed. The nurses from the hospital were rushed through the square, naked with hands on their heads. Blood ran down their legs. The doctor was dragged behind them with a noose on his neck. He wore a rag, red maybe from blood and a thorn crown on top of the head. All were lead to the gallows where a few bodies were hanging already. When they were hanging one of the nurses, Dirlewanger kicked the bricks she was standing on. I couldn't watch that anymore. We ran to our quarters, but before we reached them we saw Kaminski`s Cossacks rushing with civilians. We called those 'Cossacks Hiwis' `“ from Hilfswillige (volunteers, willing to help). Next to them a Polish pregnant woman fell down. One of the Hiwis turned back and whipped her, she tried to escape on knees, but they killed her running over her with horses.`
http://www.warsawuprising.com/witness/schenk.htm

If Hitler were serious about fighting bolshevism, he shouldn't have attacked the only country which had some experience in actual fighting bolshevism.  In 1920, Poland stopped the bolshevik hord from running over Europe.

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Re: Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin:
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2009, 07:32:54 AM »
I know you won't believe Poles telling you differnent,

You have nailed it my friend.  It is a belief.  This story is a story.  It hits the neurons in the brain to trigger emotions not logcial thought.

Fact:  Bolsheviks used pictures of Germans they slaughtered as evidence that Germans slaughtered Jews.

Logic Robot: Bolsheviks used stories like these that they actually committed as evidence that Germans killed whoever priests, Poles, etc.

Look at this thread.

3000 priests killed by nazis

700 priests killed by nazis

one priest tortured by a drunk war crazed psychos

a doctor and 15 Polish - 16 people tortured and killed by drunk war crazed psychos

If these are true war atrocities by individual Germans against Poles they are unforgiveable.  But I doubt the Zionist German gov't will ever give an apology to Poland. Better for them to keep the hate up.

By the way, why did Poles not return the land that was stolen from Germany with WWI and Versaille?

Hitler

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Danzig was to return to the Reich. An exterritorial road was to be built to East Prussia—at our expense of course. In return Poland was to receive the most extensive Free Port rights, and similar exterritorial access. I, on the other hand, on top of that, was prepared to guarantee the existing frontiers, hardly bearable as they were, and finally to let Poland participate in guaranteeing the safety of Slovakia. I cannot imagine what a state of mind the Polish Government was in when it rejected these proposals. I do know, however, that untold millions of Germans gave a sigh of relief because they were of the opinion that in making those proposals I had gone too far.

Poland's reply was to order the first mobilization, immediately followed by ferocious terrorism. My request to the then Polish Foreign Minister to visit me in Berlin in order to discuss this question with me once more was rejected. Instead of coming to Berlin, he went to London!

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I succeeded in coming to an agreement with the late Marshall Pilsudski, which was intended to pave the way towards a peaceful understanding between the two nations, an agreement which, from the outset, did not sanction anything that was created by the Treaty of Versailles, but which endeavored to lay at least the foundations for a reasonable and tolerable side-by-side existence by completely ignoring that treaty.

As long as the Marshall was alive it seemed as if this attempt might indeed lead to an improvement of the tense situation. Immediately after his death, however, an intensified anti-German campaign began. This campaign, which took numerous and varied forms, embittered and complicated the relations between the two nations in an increasing degree. In the long run it was extremely difficult to look on patiently while in a neighboring country, whose very existence had caused grievous harm to Germany, the German minorities were being persecuted in the most barbarous way. The world, ready to shed tears whenever a Polish Jew who immigrated into Germany only a comparatively short time ago is turned out—this same world remained absolutely deaf to the sufferings of those who, in compliance with the Treaty of Versailles, were forced to leave their native land not by the thousand, but by the million. The world was deaf for the simple reason that they were Germans.

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I am thinking of the thousands of slaughtered Germans, of the bestially butchered women, girls and children, of the countless German soldiers and officers who, when wounded, fell into the hands of the enemy. They were massacred, their eyes were torn out, they were brutally mutilated. And worst of all: the Polish Governor openly admitted by its own broadcasts that airmen who parachuted to the ground were murdered. There were really moments when the question arose whether under these circumstances it was possible to refrain from taking retaliatory action. I have not learnt that a single democratic statesman went to the trouble of protesting against this barbarity. I gave orders to the German air force to wage this war humanely, that is to say, to attack only fighting troops. The Polish Government and supreme command ordered their civilian population to carry on this war as snipers firing from hiding-places. It was very hard not to lose one's self-control. But I should like to emphasize here: Let no one in the democratic States imagine that this state of affairs must needs continue forever. If they want a change of methods they can have it. Here, too, my patience may come to an end.

http://judicial-inc.biz/Br.oomberg_supplement_hitler%20speech.htm


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WW 2 was started over the Danzig corridor which was part of Germany until the Versailles treaty gave it to Poland. The Versailles Treaty gave away the areas in yellow.

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The 1939 Danzig Massacres

The Polish Bolsheviks kill 58,000 German Nationals in the Danzig corridor In the months leading up to the German invasion the Polish Army and independent Bolshevik units had been slaughtering German nationals in the Danzig corridor. Mass killings of thousands of civilian ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) by both civilian and Russian NDVK Jews, who were confident that Poland would quickly defeat Germany. Many apparently expected to take possession of German farms and businesses. An estimated 58,000 German civilians lost their lives in the massacres carried out prior to the 1939 invasion.

Poles had been merrily slaughtering anything or anybody German since at least as early as April 1939, with smaller incidents stretching back to the close of WW I -- you haven't been told that by the Mass Media, or the fact that these atrocities were one of the main causes for the German invasion of Poland.

Germany had  protesting in writing to the League of Nations literally dozens of times with no results.

http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm

Only one group of "people" can cause madness like this.

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Re: Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin:
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2009, 08:30:27 AM »
Heads & tails of the same coin...Also, be intelligent and don't take everything you read on Judicial Inc as absolute truth, as it contains mis-accuracies...Whoever publishes the site seems to consider Poles to be Jews, which shows ignorance...Hitler was also ignorant in this way, as he considered Slavs 'incapable of governing themselves'...Not a friend of the Polish people...If you want to beleive in the betrayal of the great German people, and in the nonsense that they were all noble warriors fighting to crush the Bolshevist devil, OK...Hitler, as I said, was a puppet, although he did have some good ideas...He was a fanatic, and fanatics lose their reasoning abilility...You should consider some of the words of his generals, as much as was recorded...He brought the German nation to destruction...This was a great man?...The Geman ideology was built on a false racialism, and based in occult, Jewish 'spirituality'.

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Re: Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin:
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2009, 11:01:07 PM »
You are quoting Hitler and the Skunk.  What next, you're going to reference The Onion?  I know Hitler's speech from Gdansk well, and it is similar to Bush's speeches about invading Iraq.  Poland stole no land from Germany; Germany lost a war, and consequenty lost some terrain.  Hitler kept ranting and spitting about expansion to the east for years.  Dust off your copy of Mein Kampf and you will see what he had in mind in 1924.  No one had to push him toward a new war, he planed it, armed for it, and we know the rest of the story.  What was his reason for annexing Austria and Czechoslovakia? It would have been called an invasion had they fought.

Skunk loses credibility by spreading stories as such.  He has plenty of other bullshit stories as well.

Coming back to the clergy, I can hardly find a Polish church that had no victims listed during the war.  The 3000 figure is very close to the actual, and many more were imprisoned and tortured. 
In pre-war Germany, there were 24,000 priests.  Guess how many joined the Nazi party?  Less than one percent.  Now, what kind of a priest joines a party that considers its neighbors sub-human?  The Germans had to revise their clasification of who is an Aryan a few times to fit in beautiful specimens as these:


 

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Re: Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin:
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2009, 01:59:46 PM »
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Maybe you could write an essay or article about these people you knew who had parents there...I would like to read it...If you are still in contact with these people, then perhaps interview/email/write them...It would make a good article...

This is impossible, as the parents of the people I heard this from are likely no longer alive, and over the years I have lost touch with all concerned. The information simply came up in conversation with a few co-workers, over twenty five years ago.
I never stuck with the job, moved, and lost all contact. I doubt that the company even exists any longer, as the Internet has made it redundant. I have found some other such testimonials on the web, and bookmarked them in the past, but all my bookmarks were lost when my last computer got fried.

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I don't say that the National Socialists had no good ideas, or that they may not have improved the lot of Germans for a period of time...The German people were in a very bad state after WWI, and the machinations of the bankers/merchants, many of whom were Jews, certainly made life miserable...I simply ask this: what was the final fate of Hitler's Reich?...Did Hitler's own mindset and mentality, along with the fanaticism of himself and his minions bring disaster to the German people?

Hitler initially did a great many good things for the German people, however he did get involved in what can be regarded as a three front war, which would have still been winnable, had he taken decisive action at the beginning. The intervention of America in the war sealed Germany's fate.

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Eckart, I posted links to this on LibertForum over 18 months ago...You can access Aryan & racialist material like this here:

I care little to nothing about either Aryan or racialist material. I have lived long enough and seen enough to not immerse myself in that dead end. To be honest, in real life, I do not get on well with Germans at all. Most that I have met are not as intelligent as they purport themselves to be, and always seem to be individuals that wish to be in control. This does not work out well, as if I am, personally, not in control of any undertaking I assume, I soon lose interest in it, or, sometimes, insure the failure of the undertaking. They wish to control and lead, but I am a very poor follower.

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Also, what is MSM?

MSM = MainStream Media

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Also, be intelligent and don't take everything you read on Judicial Inc as absolute truth, as it contains mis-accuracies...Whoever publishes the site seems to consider Poles to be Jews, which shows ignorance

You are operating under a mis-apprehension. I doubt that I have read more than two or three articles at Judicial. While some may like the format there, I would rather have a lot more detail on any given subject than it offers. The pictures, and one liners may be enough to get some people thinking, but I prefer to have more in depth information. I have arrived at my conclusions on my own, and before I even had happened upon internet forums.

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The Geman ideology was built on a false racialism, and based in occult, Jewish 'spirituality'.

The jew has been, for centuries, regarding himself as being racially superior to all others, and it has not worked out so badly, in reality, for him. What the jew has, that other lack, is cohesion. The problem with the muzzies, the whites, in America, and abroad, and many other racial units is they lack a sense of purpose, and moreover, the cohesion to accomplish whatever goals they wish. A jew is a jew is a jew. This is the foremost of their thinking. In most cases, everything hinges on, and reflects the truth that a jew is a jew, and a jew must do what is best for all jews. This seldom varies, and if it does, there is likely an ulterior motive.


"Truth: An ingenious compound of desirability of appearance."
-Ambrose Bierce

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Re: Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin:
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2009, 10:59:47 AM »
Hitler was most definitely not part-Jewish; that is one of many, often contradictory defamations, flung at him by the Khazar lie machine.

No Jews whatsoever were permitted to live in the part of Austria where his grandmother supposedly worked for a Rothschild or Frankenberger (the bogus story varies).

"Mugwort" on Liberty Forum had a good thread on this, which I am trying to locate.

The arrogant Jew psychiatrist Walter Langer actually said that since most Austrian peasants were stupid, therefore Hitler had to have Jewish blood!!!

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Re: Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin:
« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2009, 11:03:53 AM »
Interesting quote from Eckart:
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"....we must understand what Christ meant by 'enemy.' We can love an honorable and decent enemy, even a brutal one, who is frank and forthright in his enmity. And at the same time we can beware of him. But Christ never dreamed that we should love men whom no love whatever could dissuade from their implacable determination to poison us, body and soul. Indeed, he himself did not do that. On the contrary, he continued to strike with his whip as hard as he could. And the words that he flung with indignation into the faces of the rabble breathed of irreconcilability itself. To me, he acted very proudly in the founding of his religion: there was very little contradiction between his sermons and his deeds! Why, then, have the 'pious' never followed his example? They least of all."

Why not?

Cowardice. and irresponsibility, which Adolf in his Second Book (1927) called the "hallmarks of our age."

An age where Khazars constantly promote selfish individualism.

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Re: Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin:
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2009, 05:46:50 AM »
Interesting quote from Eckart:
Why not?

Cowardice. and irresponsibility, which Adolf in his Second Book (1927) called the "hallmarks of our age."

An age where Khazars constantly promote selfish individualism.

It took the holyco$t of their lesser brethren to finally place themselves 'under world protection' - like rare animals - while laughing all the way to the bank. What chutzpa! 
"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done".
...Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with.

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Re: Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin:
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2009, 09:30:34 AM »
lol BarneyFrank is very emotional.

Pray for him.  It drives them crazy.

Someday the anti-German bigots will see feel hear reason:

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The statement about the "six million Jews", allowed to pass without question by the men on the bench, was the end-product of this process. In six years of war the Germans, Japanese and Italians, using every lethal means, killed 824,928 British, British Commonwealth and American fighting-men, merchant sailors and civilians. Assuming that the Germans killed, say, half of these in Europe, they killed (according to this assertion) fifteen times as many Jews there. To do that, they would have needed such quantities of men, weapons, transports, guards and materials as would have enabled them to win the war many times over.

http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/Controversybook/TheTalmudicVengeance.htm